of string. you will look for evidence. these days we have amazing things like touch dna. you will interview every insider you can. now, if there is something that only a few people knew of like maybe that night there was more money than usual, that's helpful. otherwise this is a huge company and there are so many employees that have come and gone that looking at insiders will be very hard. >> bill: intriguing stuff. do you think it will be solved? yes or no. >> no. i think they will get away with it. we'll see. >> bill: they are off with $30 million. thank you for coming on. scott selby with us today. thank you. >> dana: from new york city to seattle, squatters are taking route across the nation as homeowners and landlords beg for help. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. another hour here. all over the world. you have to have a certain mind for it, i think.

so that squatting trend reaching a tipping point as migrants are coaching others how to exploit the law. wild video from texas show a squatter breaking into a home through a window. in california they took over a beverly hills mansion for month. >> dana: the bronx apartment invaded by squatters. one is still on the loose. the landlord spoke to us and said he is now living in fear. >> that's why i don't want to be on tv. they are still out there and i know six of them still out there. so, you know, it is very dangerous. i hope nobody has to go through this. >> dana: taxpayers in seattle are paying the rent for serial squatters in a $2 million washington home. that is where we find dan springer. >> especially frustrating for the owner of this house behind me. he sees the laws are against him

and also the taxpayers have sort of been put on the hook to pay him back rent keeping a family squatting in his $2 million house. he and his wife and son moved into this pricey well view washington home in august of 2022. at the time he claimed an income of $4 hundred thousand. he paid just one month's rent and hasn't paid since but bought two cars during that time. neighbors have rallied around the homeowner who immigrated from india and just became a u.s. citizen in december. she has won three eviction cases against kim. each time a taxpayer funded nonprofit sends him a check for unpaid rent. now up to $88,000 and each time he gets paid, kim is allowed to keep staying in his house rent freed. >> justice delayed and justice

denied. taxpayer money is fighting against me. >> all of the money has come from the housing justice project. nonprofit wing of the king county bar association. king county taxpayers have given the housing justice project $16 million this year. the money started during covid designed to help hardship cases keep a roof over their heads not pay high rent in exclusive neighborhood. kim has done this before. living in a house a mile away without paying rent for two years. that homeowner lost over $1 hundred thousand. >> $80,000 to a serial squatter is not what these programs are intended for. what you are seeing is a perversion of the system and deemphasis in private property rights. >> reagan dunn is calling for an audit of the housing justice project. an uphill climb. the only republican on the king county council. >> dana: dan springer, wild story there, too.

>> bill: we have a large number of chinese migrants trying to make their way into the u.s. border and many have been successful. agents have seen more than 22,000 so far since the first of october. staggering new data showing chinese migrant crossings have surged more than 6,000% going back to october of 2021. matt finn has been watching it there all week with the texas military in el paso today. good morning. >> good morning, bill. today in el paso texas will continue its mission of strengthening our southern border here installing the anti-climb barrier fence and a the wire. you can see some of the supply behind me ready for the texas national guard to use today. texas's governor greg abbott was in new york place night explaining the wire mission began on the eastern side of texas in brownsville. it expanded to shelby park and eagle pass where there is an

ongoing showdown between the biden administration and the governor. now the wire mission is here in el paso, the far western side of the state. >> i told the national guard i don't want you to double down on the amount of wire we have on the border, i said i want you to triple or quadruple the amount of razor wire on the border to make sure no one will be able to get in there. >> here in el paso the majority of migrants crossing are mexican and venezuela. further west primarily in california, the majority are migrants there are chinese nationals where there has been an explosive number crossing there. some of the migrants that we talked to, that fox talked to in southern california say they don't really care they entered the country illegally because they will find a way to stay in this country and back here in texas many of the migrants we speak to here say they also don't care about crossing

illegally because they plan on staying in the united states. >> bill: wow. you've seen a lot this week. good reporting there in el paso, texas. thank you. >> the chief job of the president of the united states is national security. president biden is failing at national security. we are extraordinarily concerned about a terrorist attack occurring in texas or elsewhere in the united states because of the terrorists crossing our border at will. unstopped by the biden administration. >> dana: new border patrol data shows migrant encounters continuing at a near record pace in march. 137,000 migrants at the southern border were apprehended last night. a slight drop from february but far above the average prior to biden's tenure. want to bring in ray donovan, former dea chief of operations. one of the things governor abbott said about drones they're seeing at the southern border. >> absolutely. >> to foreshadow another concern

soon, beginning right now. that's going to be drone wars. the capability of the cartels about getting things across the border through drones already is extraordinary. there will be more aggressive and more sophisticated and drone attacks. we could sustain a drone attack any time. >> dana: what do you know about the drones he is talking about? >> the drones that we have seen at the border first started in 2015 transporting smuggling in heroin into the country. more recently thousands of flights across the southwest border primarily used for intelligence gathering, surveillance, reconnaissance. but also largely used to smuggle fentanyl and methamphetamine into the country. >> bill: the next question is whether or not he thinks isis has already penetrated the southern border and here. he didn't go that far but he did say the terrorists will pay extra not to get caught. i don't know how you interpret

that. to me that's a pretty strong indication that they are trying at a minimum. >> absolutely is. i think law enforcement primary concern is the number of gotaways that got into the country, criminal groups and networks, whether they're terrorists, or they could possibly be intelligence agents and what are their intentions? >> dana: on the drug portion of this, one of the things as i understand it the cartels use the drones to figure out how to get the drugs across the border in a way that is secure. a question, i don't know what the answer is. legally does the united states have the right to shoot a drone like that out of the sky? >> yes, it does. and the drones utilized to transport across the border are not just for drugs. it is also doing surveillance on our own agents looking for gaps to smuggle migrants in and looking to determine patterns of when agents will be in certain locations.

so they really utilize the technology to their advantage. it continues to increase. >> bill: two weeks ago a hearing in washington, air force general on march 14th talking about that. watch. >> overall majority of the activity that they see, the incursions, are spotters trying to find gaps and finding out where we are so they can be where we aren't. that's the majority. there is a smaller number that are probably moving narcotics across the border. and then -- >> the drones themselves. >> that's right. >> bill: you know of this. what are we doing about it? >> what we're doing about it is just really pursuing it. i think the issue stated in that testimony is being able to track them and the radar and capabilities. any time that we lock in on

drones the cartels will pivot as well. fly lower and lower. a cat and mouse game constantly and challenges. our agents are privy to the methodology the cartels do and we'll continue to fight them. >> dana: why wouldn't we just shoot them down? >> you have to find them. you have to find them. there are things such as frequency jamers. it is not easy just to shoot them down as one would think. >> bill: we have to get them. i think you would agree with us. ray donovan, thank you for time. >> netanyahu has had a six-week cease-fire on the table for weeks. hamas and in those negotiations has been quite impossible to deal with. now what have we done? we just strengthened hamas's

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>> dana: a trump appointed judge standing her ground ruling that special counsel jack smith cannot speed things up in the classified documents case but also says the charges against former president will not be dismissed. david spunt is live at the justice department with more. >> good morning. judge eileen cannon is in her early 40s and in the club of federal judges meaning she can serve the rest of her life if she wants. it is up to her to make that decision. she is already telling special counsel smith and president trump, who appointed her back in 2020, she won't be pushed around. cannon put out an order yesterday just a three-pay order essentially chastising both president trump and jack smith. she told donald trump that he is not immune from any prosecution and the presidential records act does not stand to dismiss his case. in this filing she says the presidential records act will

not essentially shut down the case. the former president moved to dismiss this case based on the pra arguing the act allowed him to transport and keep some of highest level classified documents found and mar-a-lago. she essentially told jack smith she was staying on the case and run things the way she wants to. he filed a motion earlier this week in so many words telling judge cannon to rule on trump's dismissal motion or go above her head to an appeals court to speed things up. smith believed cannon was taking too long in delaying the case. she wrote to the extent the special counsel demands a finalization of jury instructions prior to a trial and charge conference the court declines that demand as unprecedented and unjust. in plain english and bill she is telling smith not to rush her and if he tries it is unprecedented and unjust. she will take her time now. the trial scheduled for may 20th in florida. we're almost certain that will

get pushed back. both sides agreed they are okay to possible delays maybe mid to late summer and judge cannon by her fileings have indicated things will be pushed back. she is holding the line and stander her ground. she plans to be sit ping down hearing cases long after trump and smith. >> bill: interesting stuff in florida. federal investigators apparently have is secured a key witness against sean diddy combs. the rapper's ex-girlfriend singer cassie is cooperating in this sex trafficking probe. she was the first person to come forward with allegations of abuse, which diddy continues to deny. the rapper continues to lay low. went for a bike ride in miami but spotted riding the bike yesterday saying hello to fans along the way. out for about 45 minutes. a lot of pictures along the way. todd piro from "fox & friends" first and a lawyer.

the point off the top that needs to be remembered here is no charges have been filed. take that on its face. what comes next then? >> that is the big question. on this cassie stuff. people are wondering she said it. didn't she have a non-disclosure agreement? they are for things untoward, not for serious crimes like the allegations of sex trafficking. sex trafficking isn't just untoward it is a heinous crime that you cannot disclaim in a non-disclosure and why sthe is able to talk to the feds. what is happening right now? they want an airtight case. you aren't going up against todd piro with no resources. diddy has hundreds of millions to defend himself. the case needs to be airtight. a lot of characters you would put on the stand in a case like this are not the harlem boy's choir, they themselves have credibility issues. you want to make sure every i is

dotted and t is crossed and you get the full range of every possible witness you can get into that complaint. right now it does look bad for diddy. you have to make sure if you are the feds it's airtight. >> dana: to that point celebrity reaction to the mansion raids. they don't come like that unless they have a case. i've been telling you this for two decades. did anyone listen? no. knight has a warning. your life is in danger. you know the secrets who is involved in that little secret room you guys are participating in. >> this comment highlights what i think is the biggest unanswered question in this case. how far does this extend? are we talking epstein level, weinstein level? because there are unconfirmed reports that diddy had cameras in his various rooms for his

various parties. the thought process being will i be able to get blackmail against individuals that come to these parties? you are doing that not for people like me but for famous and powerful people. his comment is fascinating. the other two comments aubry odai probably told a lot of people. me telling you at a cocktail party is different speaking under oath to the feds and you have to realize that. everybody seems to be singing now and that's where the feds will get the full range of witness testimony against him. >> bill: cassie settled the next day after she filed. that's out there. three other women and a man who filed accusations. are these accusations all the same? are they similar? >> they're similar. they result from a different nexus of action. not necessarily the same event all four times by your count but

they all go for the same thing. the question becomes how credible are those four. how far does it extend? i think it extends way beyond the four if i'm reading the tea leaves but we won't know that until the feds finish their investigation. you have to think they are going in guns blazing like they did at these mansions. they have to feel confident they have a lot more than just these four. >> bill: some are saying over the top. >> from the defense i play that angle. why did you coordinate with the media? you are tainting the jury pool by doing that and making my client guilty off the bet and the credibility issue. if i'm defense i'm focused on those three things. until we know more and until charges are filed. >> dana: the time between the raid and an indictment. from your experience as a lawyer, is this typical, usual, or a long time? >> could be long, could be

short. it was short with regard to another mansion raid in south florida. i'll leave it at that. in the trump case there is a president yell election they are trying to speed up for. no rush in this diddy case >> bill: i didn't hear about the case coordinating with the media. >> the media that was on scene ready to go and filmed basically the invasion of diddy's mansion from all angles. that doesn't happen. we get a lot of tips but that's a big tip. if you get that you send your crews. >> dana: like cnn did with roger stone. thank you, todd. a live look at miami where house lawmakers are drawing attention to the growing threats at america's ports. we want to keep an eye on that. did you see this? >> joe rogan's dream? >> what is joe's dream? what a dana white's dream?

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>> bill: 10:30 in new york. israeli investigators calling a strike in gaza a grave mistake that killed aid workers. greg palkot. >> strong and fast report. sign of outrage surrounding the strike. israel saying it mishandled information and violated its rules of engagement when they hit an aid convoy on monday. seven aid workers dead including an american. two israeli officers were dismissed, three reprimanded.

this as israel will give more aid to gaza after a tough phone call yesterday between netanyahu and president biden. meanwhile israeli security in jerusalem on high alert at the temple mount compound. the last day of ramadan. there has been trouble there in the past. as israel remains concerned about iranian retaliation after its strike on a diplomatic compound in syria this week. seven were killed in that including two top officials of iran's revolutionary guard. israel has evacuated embassies in the region. didn't scramble the gps signals for their citizens inside israel just in case. c.i.a. director burns heading to cairo to speak with counterparts about a possible cease-fire, about a possible release of hostages. back to you. >> bill: get it done, greg. we're waiting. he is live in london.

thank you. >> he made clear the need for israel to announce and implement a series of specific, concrete and measurable steps to address civilian harm. humanitarian suffering and the safety of aid workers. immediate cease-fire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians. >> dana: president biden warning israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu that u.s. policy toward the war in gaza could change if israel does not protect civilians. the president laying out those terms in what was described as a tense 30-minute phone call. joining me now is a former senior trump official out of boulder, the lead negotiator on the abraham accords . antony blinken also said this. watch here. >> and with regard to our policy in gaza, look, to say this, if we don't see the changes that we need to see, there will be changes in our own policy.

>> dana: adam, i want to get your take on all this and add that they don't talk about hamas that much. hardly ever about hamas and what it did on october 7th, the hostages that they're holding, and now you have the biden administration saying they want a cease-fire. >> you are absolutely correct, they don't and the reality here is that there is a clear double standard that the united states holds israel to. a different standard than the united states holds itself to. want to shed light on one thing in afghanistan, the united states made a mistake. we blew up a family of ten rick an aid worker they thought was an enemy. in the fog of war these things happen. what you do is you take accountability, apologize, take action just like israel has done. i have yet to see hamas apologize and take action for deliberately killing civilians. the reason is because they're a

terror organization. people need to remember that. the united states needs to remember who their allies are, not hamas, not iran, not terrorism. the allies here are israel, moderate arab countries and stability. and we are forgetting that. >> dana: one more quick question. we have breaking news we want to get to. do you think israel dismissing the two that were apparently responsible for the attack that killed the workers from the world central kitchen, will that be enough to get the administration on the american side to hold strong with israel for the future while they decide on the israeli side about going into rafah? >> it should be. it shows clear accountability. do i think it will? no. the decision is driven by politics in the united states. >> dana: adam, thank you for your time and get to breaking news. love to have you back. >> bill: if it felt like a weird day it got weirder in the

northeast. we can report according to the usgs in the united states there has been an earthquake in the northeast. preliminary indication is 4.8 magnitude is what we're reading now. the center point is a place in new jersey called lebanon, new jersey, which is about 50 miles due west of new york city. >> dana: wow. >> bill: a lot of our colleagues here in the building felt it, i parently. i did not. apparently a lot of our colleagues not just in the building but throughout new york. getting a number of text messages. it is also being report evidence it was felt in albany, new york, the capital city. which from lebanon, new jersey is about 150 miles. so there could be significance found in that. we haven't heard any reports about damages but we're searching the wires right now.

no initial reports of damage according to the fire department in new york. >> dana: many years ago i remember here there was an earthquake in new york, maybe virginia. it was felt in new york. i was on the elevator. i didn't feel anything. got on the elevator, get off the ele elevator. everyone is saying did you feel that? i've missed both of them now. >> bill: hopefully that's the end of it. you don't want tremors to follow. hopefully it won't be the case. to update you. now we are getting more reports. colleagues have relatives throughout the tri state area, new jersey, connecticut, new york. the poconos in pennsylvania felt it as well according to one of our producers whose mother lives there, the eastern part of pennsylvania. how far that is from lebanon, new jersey, i don't know. >> dana: getting reports they're feeling it at the jersey shore as well. can you tell me, bill, what is

the range on the earthquake? what's 4.8. >> bill: i was looking at this. i guess it could we don't want it to be that way. it was saying it had the depth of about 14 kilometers, convert that into miles and a lot of times that depth in the earth can tell us about the intensity of the quake and how much damage there may or may not be. but so far the signs are good here in new york, the reports are there are no initial reports of damage. >> dana: you look at a lot of these buildings you think are so much stronger but earlier in the week there was a earthquake in taiwan, a much stronger earthquake that had significant damage. sometimes the world just -- shaking it up a little bit. >> bill: 14 kilometers, 8 1/2 miles. in california when we report on these a lot of time in asia and

japan when they feel this often, they often look at the depth of the quake. >> dana: we have this from peter doocy at the airport at newark saying there was an earthquake there that sounded like an explosion. floor shook for 20 to 30 seconds. there was just an earthquake here. sounded like an explosion, floor shook for 20 to 30 seconds and just added, just an fyi. he doesn't realize he is our eyewitness reporter. >> bill: two days ago you had the massive earthquake in taiwan, a shaker that they have not felt in some 25 years. some of the surveillance video in the country was extraordinary. we had the nurses in the maternity ward trying to hang onto the babies. >> dana: moving the babies away from the wall. >> bill: good stuff. you had a swimmer in a swimming

pool on top of a building in taipei and he just stands there with his swimming cap on and goggles. doing lapps. the water is going right and left and moving out of the pool itself and take a wide shot from the sidewalk below and the water coming down the skyscraper. what they felt in taiwan and the number of people who died from that. so far it's not close to what they experienced in taiwan here. >> dana: felt across new jersey and connecticut. a greg's friend in north carolina said he felt it. i do know people in connecticut now. sometimes you get the breaking news and you start hearing from friends and family saying i felt it, too. 20 seconds, the whole house shook. felt it in beacon, new york in duchess county, new york.

todd piro said his aunt who lives in atlanta city said she felt it big time. >> bill: lebanon, new jersey is the location that is considered the epicenter for this quake. just to repeat some of the information we have, 4.8 is the initial reading in terms of magnitude due west of new york city 50 miles. if you were to push a little further west you would run into allentown, pennsylvania and you cross the border there. >> dana: greg gutfield former territory. aishah hosni sends this from a statement from governor kathy hochul, a 4.8 emergency any toot earthquake has been felt throughout new york. we're assessing any damage that may have occurred and update the public throughout the day. the government trying to check it out as well. >> bill: not a lot of new information scanning the wires to see if the associated press comes up with something different. an earthquake shook the densely

populated new york city metro area friday morning. u.s. geological sur say said they felt rumbling across the eastern seaboard. it's 150 miles south of lebanon, new jersey. the agency reported a quake magnitude 4.8. fire department in new york saying no initial reports of damage. i'm hearing some sort of alert in our building here. don't know if that means much or not. it might notify our employees that either we're okay or not. >> dana: our continued report from the eyewitness, steve doocy another newark airport. peter doocy -- actually his son-in-law said his desk shook in washington, d.c. so that would be quite significant. i think that's the farthest winner here. >> bill: we move back to the map. lebanon, new jersey, you are

talking close to 200 miles. so our colleagues on the west coast, much greater personal experience at this. it is not that it never happens here, but it is not common. >> dana: when i lived in san diego, we would have these every once in a while and people really did not seem to get too rattled. i was not of that ilk. it bothers me a little more. mark meredith at the white house now says we did not feel anything here at the white house. >> bill: one update been revised to 4.7 magnitude. the number can change from time to time but the initial reading was 4.8. dropped a little bit. i don't know how significant that might be. one of the folks who study this probably could. >> dana: what was the year the previous one happened here? 2012 or 13. we'll look it up and tell you what the magnitude was.

>> bill: several people in springfield, mamas -- massachusetts said they felt it. >> dana: brooklyn. steve doocy. a report from newark, just an plowings -- the floor in my chair shook for 20 seconds. they came over to see if a plane hit the building. it was weird. never felt that before. the other side i'm terrified. then we heard about a 4.8 magnitude earthquake taking place. quite an event. we did not feel it ourselves in studio. it is being felt across the region. >> bill: thanks to chad pergram. your guess was pretty good. 2011, that was the last time. even dozen years ago here in new york. >> dana: there was another one after that, right? as i recall there was that day,

that moment and it moved on. see if that's the case here, hopefully so. see if we can find out anymore information. >> bill: looking at taiwan. the depth in the earth is important as we try to study this here. in taiwan you were 7.4 magnitude but i don't know the depth of the quake. the closer to the surface the more damage you incur. the deeper in the less you'll feel it. we felt this one here in new york. report here what a mother-in-law who is this? chad again. >> dana: i got an update on taiwan. that earthquake from earlier this week was 25 miles deep. >> okay. much stronger, right? much stronger, close to eight on magnitude. >> dana: 7.4 magnitude and struck near a major city and 35

kilometers or 21 miles deep. they had multiple after shocks there. >> bill: you think about the population in the east coast whether new york, new jersey, connecticut, up in boston. you are talking about tens of millions of people will experience this and have that shared experience today. we've been talking about this eclipse coming up on monday. mother nature will be in the news today and through the weekend. >> dana: i didn't want to go there but that's where my mind first went. sometimes these things happen like this where again mother nature reminds you i'm still here. humans there, you can think you are powerful but mother nature whats a way of reminding you. 4.7 magnitude earthquake 50 miles west of new york city felt as far away as we've heard in possibly d.c., atlantic city, albany, connecticut and

massachusetts. >> bill: mid town manhattan traffic grew louder as motorists blared their homes on shuddering streets. intriguingly written there. brooklyn residents heard a booming sound and building shaking. we'll get more reports. cb cotton is with us now. where are you? tell us and what have you got? >> good morning. yeah, what a morning for new yorkers. like you and dana have said, a lot of us here in the building didn't feel this. of course it was a different story for people across the city. reports coming in people feeling tremors across the city's five boroughs. somebody in my building wrote to me and said i was on a call and thought it was a big truck passing by. the whole building was shaking including the floor underneath my feet. so obviously people just in shock at what has taken place

this morning. also we know that the number, the size of this earthquake, the magnitude of it continues to change at this hour. right now 4.7 is what we're being told. latest piece of information philly police officers saying people there reporting feeling the seismic activity. even above new york city yonkers putting out a statement on twitter saying they are assessing any potential damage and they've been getting inundated with calls and telling people call 911 if you or someone you know is hurt or the mayor helpline if there is structural damage. people across the northeast continuing to react as this 4.7 magnitude earthquake. right now it seems like a lot of emergency officials are urging people to stay calm. i think there is a collectively shock, maybe that's not the right word to use now but a lot of people just in awe of what has taken place this morning.

not every day that an earthquake rattles the northeast like this. >> bill: thank you. we'll get back to you in moments. one of our great directors here said he felt in orange county, new york 70 miles west of new york city. lasted about 20 seconds, sounded like a fully loaded tractor trailer flipped over right next to the house. that's the way to wake up. >> dana: we really missed it. adam klotz is in the weather center. are you there? >> yeah, i am here. i also didn't feel it. i feel like i missed out on that. we have a couple of graphics when they things happen. this is the location outside of new york city. part of the fault system. the longest crack in the earth eights surface on the eastern side of the country. when earthquakes happen. very rare, this has been the spot they have happened. this one was at the current look. let me go back for you guys.

this one is a 4.7 magnitude and located just half a mile down which is incredibly shallow as far as these things go and why so many people felt it. i didn't feel it in the building but i have friends texting far out into brooklyn who felt this. some folks in princeton, new jersey felt it. it is really shallow. it is part of a fault system that is really long. it doesn't move very often. when it happens this is typically where they happen across the northeast. i think the shallow nature is the reason we've seen so many people reporting and texting and calling this morning. >> dana: i wanted to ask you about that a little more. we were talking about the earthquake in japan was -- in taiwan was 21 miles below. this one you are saying is much more shallow relatively speaking and why people felt it? >> this one is incredibly shallow. most of the ones we get are

closer to what you see in taiwan. this was really shallow. not a huge number but for this part of the country it's a big number. the closer you are to the surface it takes a smaller shake for us to notice it. from what it appears in these initial reports it was a very shallow earthquake. >> bill: thank you so much. get back to work and get back to you momentarily. a professor and research scientist at the western observatory is on the phone. it is early in the story. should people expect more tremors to follow? >> for an earthquake this large i would expect after shocks felt by people living within a few miles, perhaps tens of miles of the epicenter if there are larger after shocks. under normal circumstances a 3 1/2 would be the largest after shock we would expect to see

with the most frequent occurring within say 24 or 48 hours. progressively could be a number of after shocks. >> bill: gone back to 4.8. is that normal? >> what happens is the very first number that comes out is an automated one from the computers and then you want human beings to check them and then what happens is within minutes or maybe ten minutes or so after the earthquake then we can do more sophisticated analysis and get the best estimate of the magnitude. that's why you will see the magnitude fluctuate over the first ten, 20, 30 minutes. by 30 minutes after the earthquake we have a good number. >> dana: wondering about what adam klotz about the shallowness of the earthquake. can you speak to that? >> earthquake usgs has put it at 4.7 kilometers, about 2.8 miles

down into the earth. a pretty common focal depth for earthquakes along the eastern seaboard. somewhere between maybe the surface and six or seven miles depth is common. this is right in the middle of that. the wide-felt area is very common for earthquakes in this region. >> bill: thank you so much. might come back to you. fox news weather. back to 4.8. what do we know? >> the information still pouring in, of course. we can expect with an earthquake of this magnitude to see potential or after shocks as we've been talking about. the shaking incredible. what we know there is a fault line across north jersey. it is not that uncommon to see shaking. never really at least in my lifetime and people i've talked to who have seen something this the strong before. these numbers will continue to come in and that revision will

continue to get made but right now the magnitude 4.8, 10:19 local time and we're monitoring from here on out what do those after shocks look like. prepare yourself if there was kind of shaking, look around the area for the potential of maybe some damage to the area. i'm sure officials are looking closely in and around where we had that in lebanon, new jersey. >> dana: thank for joining our show for a moment. >> bill: we're on the 12th floor in mid town manhattan. our colleague at fox business stewart varney does a show when we do a show and he is on the ground level. when this happened we didn't feel it. some folks there did. jack keane was on the air and this is what happened. >> thank you, sir. secretary of state blinken. secretary of state blinken.

>> bill: that's pretty obvious. it didn't last very long from the clip. a few seconds of rattling. >> dana: stewart varney was not rattled in any way and just continued on. >> bill: the new york city mayor has been briefed. eric adams. again just to repeat we don't have any reports of major impacts at this time. that was mistyped on their part. we are still assessing the impact but no reports of damage or injury. that's good news. want to keep it that way. we are talking about the potential for more tremors or after shocks. >> dana: steve doocy is at newark airport. can you tell us what you felt? >> good morning, dana and bill. about a half an hour ago, i was sitting here waiting for a flight and at the brand-new

newark terminal a, which is beautiful. in front of a great big window at the united club. i had a free breakfast, thank you, united. i would say 20 after ten if that was a time there was a gigantic explosion sound and it was like -- i looked around the club. there are 75 people here and everybody was looking around. that's not normal. a couple of the united employees came over my way and one of them said what was that? and somebody else said i've never heard anything like that. the third person said from united said, i'm terrified, what was it? it took a little while but i started getting texts from across the street neighbor >> dana: we're here. >> bill: steve? looks like we lost the signal

there. a good account. the newark airport. the last time a relatively big quake hit the east coast, we mentioned this several minutes ago was in 2011 based out of virginia. 5.9 struck outside the nation's capital. one of the strongest to hit the region in modern history felt from north carolina to maine. >> dana: if you remember it caused quite a bit of damages in some places in washington, d.c. that's why the government is on top of it. be aware. but here in new york it is relatively rare. we do have a report, though, again this is anecdotal coming in here in the city there were dishes that clattered off a shelf on the 46th floor of an apartment. >> bill: maybe we got lucky and keep it that way. that would be good news going into a weekend. sometimes there are after shocks and sometimes there are not. at the moment we just don't

know. but the accounts that we're getting from our colleagues have actually been very good. >> dana: we've had good reporters on this. >> bill: my old dentist said i felt it in nassau county, bill. that's long island about i would say 40 miles due east of manhattan. talking about 100 miles from the epicenter in the western half of new jersey. say the instruction rick charlie? got it. okay. adam klotz back with us. i don't know what you are picking up. let's go back to you now. >> i don't know that i am. i continue to get messages just like you guys but here we still are sitting there at 4.8. the only thing i have been doing is plenty of research talking about the history of this fault line. it seems as though getting up around these five levels has happened only a handful of times through history.

the oldest fault line across the northeast. it has been here 200 million years. >> bill: that's going back a ways. we'll let you do the reading. back to cb cotton and what she is hearing now. >> good morning. less than an hour ago people across the northeast started taking to social media to say they felt shaking after this earthquake and i mentioned me, you and dana said we didn't feel much. in the newsroom producers are telling me they started feeling the shaking immediately after this happened. one of the producers told me that she felt 20 seconds of steady shaking in the newsroom. some pretty scary stuff. the "wall street journal" is reporting that right now there are no reports of after shocks. we know that could change and heard that from the meteorologist at fox weather and also reporting that people again across the northeast experienced

this from as far as boston, yonkers, down to maine. a lot of people just weighing in right now on what they experienced with this earthquake. here in new york city we know city officials plan on sending out a wireless emergency message to everyone to let people know what's going on. again, some good news right here in the city, the city office of the mayor are saying no reports of any major impacts but still assessing what could come in response to this earthquake. something to keep an eye on. we now know that me, you and dana didn't feel what was going on. several people in the newsroom below the 12th floor where you are felt this. they said it was 20 to 30 seconds of everybody looking around in the newsroom feeling the steady shaking looking at each other and saying is this an earthquake that's happening right now? reaction continues to pour in this morning. >> dana: aishah hosni sent this

into us as well following jake sherman. the earthquake in the new york metro area is impacting air travel. flights into newark and coming into dulle is in virginia are in holding pattern. one diverted to allentown because of the uncertainty to make sure everybody is safe. >> bill: one important note here. in a moment we'll hand off to the next show. dagen mcdowell is working for harris today. for our viewers to know governor phil murphy in new jersey put out a statement talking about activating the state emergency operations center but he says please do not call 911 unless you have an actual emergency. that's the last line on there. could be very important stuff as we all absorb this information and figure it out. >> dana: never know what happens on breaking news. dage