>> all right. just call another aftershock,

not about the earthquakes, but in israel right now where fears are building over what some suspect could be an imminent attack on the part of iran responding to an israeli attack on one of their top commanders in syria and that they're going to respond not only against israel, but maybe u.s. interests in the region. lucas tomlinson following the fast-moving developments and what's at stake. lucas. >> all right, iran has vowed to avenge the deaths of the killing of the senior commanders. the same day the aide workers were killed in gaza and that's caused israeli forces to go on heightened alert and president biden's call with benjamin netanyahu, and president biden demand ago immediate cease-fire in gaza. he did seem hopeful when speaking to reporters yesterday

when leaving for baltimore. >> did you threaten to stop military aid to israel. i asked them on what they're doing. >> are you abandoning israel? are you abandoning israel? >> and neil, it's notable the state department, the u.s. government has not put out any statements, and the tipping point in the relationship between the u.s. and israeli government seems to be the botched drone strike that killed aid workers, including an american, and they sacked three officers. and there were 10 civilians in

2021. and the officer who appeared on the program who demanded israel change the way how it fights the war in gaza. >> we want israel to change the way they are conducting this war. now, israel has had a very aggress self-approach from october 7th forward and it's understandable why they reacted that way. it is not working to their advantage and it is causing a devastating humanitarian crisis in gaza right now. >> and neil, critics say that israel is held to a near impossible standard. israel forces are trying to eradicate and destroy and kill all the hamas fighters including four battalions that remain in rafah while at the same time trying to feed the palestinians inside gaza while hamas continues to hold about 100 hostages, including some americans, neil. neil: lucas, how nasty did that phone call get? >> it was pretty heated, neil. according to officials here at the white house. it lasted for about 30 minutes and for the president of the united states to demand that

israeli forces immediately cease operations in gaza, calling for the immediate cease-fire without calling for hamas to release the hostages first, that's drawn the ire of many republicans on capitol hill, neil. neil: to put it mildly. lucas, thank you very much. lucas at the white house and stephanie bennett on the pressure we're putting on israel and much more. stephanie. >> yeah, that conversation, that 30-minute phone call did get pretty heated as you mentioned. many have described it as direct and the president laying demands out to israel as the war nears six months. and he said yesterday that his security cabinet approved a series of immediate steps to increase the flow of humanitarian aid into gaza, including opening a key crossing that was destroyed during the october 7th hamas attack. the pentagon says their plans to build a temporary pier to deliver aid should be ready by

end of the month or early may and israel agreed to provide security on the shore as the aid comes in. and duelling protests in london after the strike that killed the food workers in gaza. there were multiple arrests. israel has acknowledged responsibility for the strikes. overnight, new information israel's military has recovered the body of 47-year-old hos hostage, ilan. his sister issuing a statement, his memory will be remembered for his laughter, hugs and joy. and he was filmed during captivity and suffered months of torture. there are 36 hostages considered dead and their bodies are still held by hamas. and biden raised concerns about netanyahu's plan to carry out an operation in the southern city of rafah where many, many

are sheltering there right now. for now, cease-fire talks are starting up again in egypt. negotiators, of course, will be discussing some way to end this war and get those hostages back to safety. neil. neil: all right, thank you for that in london, following all of that. joining us now from the state department, uncanny read of anything on foreign affairs. christian, this pressure we're putting on israel is something i've never seen in my lifetime, gol golda mayer, and henry kissinger and the fact of the matter is, we're angling aid and continuance to what israel does and how israel behaves. what do you think of that? >> neil, to your point, there may have been pressure and i'm sure there were difficult phone calls between, for example,

george w. bush and his counterparts in afghanistan and iraq, but they were kept quiet and neither side put this in the public realm. israel certainly didn't put it that and you have to conclude, cynically, perhaps, for political purposes that the president is under immense pressure with the schism within his own party to do this and it's very unhelpful and it gives encouragement to hamas that they just need to hold on a little longer that much of the world, that all of europe and that israel's primary benefactor and suppliers of weapons is putting pressure on their enemy and gives them, you know, unfortunately, a shot in the arm. neil: you know, christian, you know foreign policy inside and out and i know the sopranos series on h.b.o. and that might be apropos no one says outright, blatantly,

your aid is on the line. and they say it in roundabout ways, chris coons proposing putting conditions on aid, and tim kaine saying that it's not working, is not satisfied. i'm reading into that a tony soprano moment, it would be very unfortunate you were not to hear what i'm saying right now without me telling you what i'm saying right now. >> yeah, it's a nice business here, be ashamed if anything happened to it. neil: right. >> yeah, it's unusual, too, because usually israel can have a relationship with the u.s. president and there's acrimony between netanyahu and president obama. and congress, regardless which party ran congress. usually if the president would say we're going to dial it back. they could roll their eyes and congress would make it

well-known. with majority leader, chuck schumer of new york, saying that netanyahu has to go. also unprecedented we've pushed out leaders of countries we supported. president kennedy didn't directly push out in vietnam, but united states was aware of a coup taking place. any way, the degree of support that israel has been able to count on in congress declined and the politics goes back to those in michigan and arizona and the ideological schism, but also on campuses and young progressive left wingers not wanting to support israel and the democrats having to respond politically. neil: they clearly have the upper hand in the democratic party, but that could change. christian whiton, thank you. nice to hear from you. the back drop for all of this is this delegation headed to cairo, as i understand, for the

cease-fire talks. this is hamas saying this, we're not getting that they're definitely on, but hamas appears to have the upper hand when it comes to pr. that's probably a point of concern for my next guest, former ambassador to the united states. ambassador,good to have you back. do you know anything about the hamas delegation that's headed to cairo? it seems surreal that hamas is part of any delegation arguing peace. what are you make of it? >> they're not arguing peace, neil. always good to be with you. they're arguing basically nothing because their position has been strengthened by the american position, by the international position which says, over and over again, just hold on, hold on for another week or two, and we'll impose an arms embargo on israel. hold on for another week or two, we'll impose a permanent unconditional cease-fire on israel. so why, why in the world would hamas want to give up concrete assets, and i hate to think

about israeli hostages as assets, but from hamas' point of view that's exactly what they are. why would they give up concrete assets for a temporary cease-fire after which israel would renew the effort to destroy hamas? they would never agree to that, but that's the message they've been getting from the united states and the world. neil: are you angry? or some of your friends you talk to in israel feeling abandoned? >> oh, abandoned, i think the world is frustrated. here we have the country in the most inhospitable region in the world. 360,000 reservists report to duty the equivalent of about 20 million americans, that fought in world war ii. they fight for their country and what they believe in, at perhaps the cost of giving their lives. how many countries like that can you count on in the west. fighting for the same values

that america stands for. and i don't think i can understand and the israelis would want to weaken fighting for those same goals. neil: the fact of the matter, it is what it is. i'm wondering now if the white house is sending that clear message that things could change if israel's conduct in this war doesn't change. that's fairly blatant. how do you feel about it? >> well, i feel that we should try to get on the same page for the maximum degree that we can with the united states, we should address the humanitarian disaster, if it's important for president biden to talk about the day after scenario, we should talk about the day after scenario and every possible scenario and doesn't cost anything, but at the end of the day we have concrete, strategic interests on which we can't concede. there's no flexibility. you have to destroy hamas. if we don't destroy hamas, the country will not be able to live, we won't have internal security, won't have regional

security and by the way, the people in washington want to see israel to make peace with those countries. they're watching very, very carefully. the iranians are watching carefully how we respond. hezbollah on the northern border 170,000 rockets pointed at the city waiting to see our resolve and frankly in the world, the russians and the chinese are waiting to see if the united states are standing by its allies, and what happens here will have ramifications around the globe. make no mistake about it. neil: is there any sense among the israeli ambassadors who feel there's a stop watch on the war right now? even donald trump said to essentially try to wrap this up, that the war needs to finish up, i think, i'm quoting, the war needs to finish up and twice when asked whether he's 100% behind israel did not answer that.

so, even among the president who could change hands at the white house, the views are fairly similar. what do you make of it? >> we've always been against a stop watch. i've been against it since october 7th. it's not the american stop watch, it's the israeli stop watch. those who left high-tech and industry and major family supporters who have left to go off to fight for five, six months straight. there's an ammunition clock going all the time. so there's different clocks going, yes, and the israelis want to wrap this up as soon as possible, certainly in the south and face the challenge up north which is in fact a much, much greater challenge, but right now we have hamas using the civilian population of rafah of southern gaza as a human shield and in a strange way the united states in the world is also using that population as a human shield

saying don't touch rafah, and hamas in the southern part of the gaza strip because there are civilians there. it's a strange, strange confluence of tactics between hamas and many, many governments in the west. and it's a very disconcerting for us. neil: incredible. and ambassador, michael oren, very good chatting with you again. i'm sorry under the circumstances. we should update you on a tragic developments concerning hostages. ilan was kidnapped on october 7th and released a video begging for his life. he was killed, murdered apparently in captivity. his body recovered today. ny cs on booking.com there are so many tina feys i could be. so i hired body doubles to help me out. splurgy tina loves a hotel near rodeo drive. oh tina!

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>> all right. don't look now, but texas, you might want to step aside for the moment when it comes to border wars. new mexico, it seems to be the

new hot spot for controversy and doesn't matt finn know it in sumland new mexico. matt. >> hi, neil. we're standing on mount cristo rey. which is a pilgrimage mountain, there are crosses all over here and this place is swarming with illegal migrant activity. a border patrol agent told me and my photographer that border patrol doesn't have control over the mountain, the coyotes and human smugglers do. they have a lot of activity with scouts. our cameras caught several moments we could clearly see the cartel scouts and coyotes monitoring us and running away from us. we were told in advance that this mountain is a hot spot for illegal immigration and only spent a few minutes before a group of about 15 illegal migrants breezed right past us. now, here in sumland park, new mexico, our crews spotted holes in the border wall and we saw

two men trying to climb through the holes. and screamed at us, let us cross, why are you so racist. >> we're in new mexico in the el paso sector, what is referred to as the obama wall. they point to the holes in the wall and cartels cut them to let humans through and they refer to them as doggy doors and can't keep up with patching them. >> the migrants right after they crossed the border wall into new mexico and border agents smooth over the busy human path so they can easily spot fresh footsteps. we're in the el paso sector even though we're in the state of new mexico. this is one of the busiest sectors in the nation averaging 1,000 illegal migrant apprehensions a day. neil: that's incredible. what a beautiful backdrop

during any other conditions. but texas is the epicenter of this type of activity and the legal battles how you deal with that illegal activity. grief jenkins has more. griff: the lonestar fights for the new immigration law called sb-4 which makes illegal crossings a state crime and would allow, neil, texas law enforcement to arrest illegal crossers and possibly depart them. three judge panel in new orleans will decide whether to keep in place a lower court's blocking of sb-4. the u.s. government argues, immigration is a federal matter. texas argues the government is derelict in that duty and that the border patrol lacks resources to get the job done. and governor abbott says that his action is needed because the biden administration is failing on those fronts. >> one is deny illegal entry into the country and the other to detain those here illegally and build border barriers.

the biden administration is doing none of those, what the it extext law authorizes is allowing the state of texas to do all three of those things. >> two of the three on the panel seem skeptical of the government's arguments. and if the federal government doesn't have the resources why haven't they taken up texas generous offer and do it for them. the doj rejected such an offer seeing the move by state is extraordinary and unprecedented and we expect a ruling in a few weeks. bet your bottom dollar on this, whoever loses will take it street to the supreme court, neil. neil: i don't think i've seen so many legal cases over a single issue, concerning a single state anywhere, it's nonstop. >> it is indeed and this is about the constitutionality of this texas law, so, it will be a pretty firm one whatever the ruling ultimately is. neil: thank you, my friend. griff jenkins, you'll be seeing a lot more of him later on

today. in the meantime, the cost of college is going through the roof. you hear this past week, some colleges crossed the $90,000 a year threshold. 90,000 a year. enter mike rhodes, he says there are alternatives to that and they pay very good for jobs down the road after this. anthony: this making you uncomfortable? good. when you've got type 2 diabetes like me, you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack or worse death. even when meeting your a1c goal. discomfort can help you act. i'm not trying to scare you. i'm empowering you... to get real with your health care provider. talk to them about lowering your risk of stroke, heart attack or death.

>> community colleges, especially those that embrace or maybe reembrace the vocational mission as opposed to the college preparatory commission, i think have so much to offer and, again, i think we've probably overemphasized the four-year degree, businesses certainly realizing now that ought not be

a prerequisite to employment. neil: mitch daniels was running purdue university for many, many years and froze the tuition so it's possible. don't let any of the college big wigs say we can't cell the cost, but the fact of the matter is a four-year degree costs more and more and eclipses more than three times inflation going up. and we'll talk to mike about the trade schools, but first to mike emanuel on the reality of the moment. >> neil, some research suggesting members of generation z are going into the traditional trade vocations. jessica varney just finished her apprenticeship as a pipefitter last may and says she hears complaints from her peers about college sticker shock. >> a lot of the people i talk to that are my age, college is expensive, i want to work with my hands and i want to learn something that i can actually use. >> in fact, a number of the

nation's private colleges and universities are now costing more than $90,000 a year when you factor in tuition, room and board and expenses. zack got into trade work out of high school and he says pay has gone up due to need for skilled workers. >> high demand of work. if somebody wanted to get into tradesman work, i believe now is definitely the time to do it. >> from the fall of 2022, to fall of 2023, the number of students enrolled in vocational based community colleges increased 16%. according to data from the national student clearinghouse. on the other side, one experts says there's measurable value to earning a four-year college degree. >> if you get a bachelor's degree in particular, then your salaries keep going up for a long time. so, you know, if you're going to a trade school, unless you're going to start a small

business or something like that, then you are putting some limits probably on your lifetime earnings. >> the white house says college should be affordable for those who want to attend, but many of the nation's private colleges and universities, that is getting more out of reach. neil. neil: to put it mildly. thank you very much. mike emanuel on that. to another mike, you know this fellow well. mike rowe works foundation, and mike puts his money where his mouth is and looks at trade schools and opportunities that are just common sense abroad, but not in this, in this country, mike, we've talked about it before, electricians and plumbers and welders, all that, those are highly valued, coveted and well recognized fields in countries like germany, italy, and much of europe, asia. not so much here. you're leading an effort to change that. how is it going? >> well, thanks to you, pretty good. i personally want to thank you, neil, for covering this story. it poses a lot of inconvenient

truths for people in our education system and many of our elected officials, but the evidence is now undeniable, it demands a verdict. that article in the wall street journal that emanuel was talking about, it's a big deal. i've been beating this drum for 16 years now and premature for a victory lap maybe, but the data is in and gen z is not having any of it. the cost of college, you're a finance guy so let me just oversell it for a minute, nothing in the history of westerly civilization has ever become more expensive more quickly than a four-year degree, not food, not health, not energy, not real estate, nothing. it is unexampled and yet, even as the skills gap has widened, even as 10 million positions have just yawned open in this chasm, positions that don't require a four-year degree, but

rather, training, we have still been telling a generation of kids the best path for most people is the most expensive path. they're just not buying it anymore. neil: you know, i wonder why that is. what got it to change? obviously the sticker shock at college, that will do it for a lot of people and a lot of people come to discover, i have the devil of a time booking an electrician or a plumber and there must be a reason for that. >> well, it's math. every year for the past 15 years for every five tradesmen who retire, two replace them. now, right? you don't have to be a genius to just add that up and realize the exponential weight of that, just gets heavier and heavier. i challenge anyone watching this right now to find a construction project going on in their neighborhood, go talk to the general contractor. he's overbudget and he's under time. he's not going to come in on time and the reason is always

the same, it's a paucity of skilled labor. so, gen z gets it and your first question was right on point, they get it in south korea. they get it in switzerland, they get it in germany. they put all the options on the table in front of a 14, 15-year-old kid. they don't take shop class out of high school, they put it there and they walk them through it and they say, look, this is a path. it looks a lot like work, but over here, the stigmas, and the stereo types and the myths and misperceptions that keep kids from exploring these trades and the number of guidance counselors, neil, who are affirmatively bonused on their ability to get kids onto the college track and not the vocational track, people say, mike, how could college get so expensive? the answer is how could it not? we've freed up a bottomless pile of free money and turned the screws on a whole generation of kids and told them they'd be finished if they didn't take this path.

so that's starting to get very, very wobbly and i think this year, you're going to see a pr problem in higher ed unlike anything we've seen in our lifetime. neil: well, you've been on it long before a lot of people. what i love about you, mike, i'm not blowing you smoke. you don't forget your roots, don't forget where you come from and don't forget average working folk and knowing they're not only the life blood of our country, but a profitable life blood for their kids and offspring. thank you for doing that, mike. good seeing you again. >> you, too, thanks. neil: mike rowe on that. and in the meantime, focused on a big money raisor for one donald j trump at mar-a-lago. and we know that the former president had some good wind on their backs and the same time

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>> all right. show me the money. that's the goal of one donald j. trump at a big fundraiser planned at mar-a-lago resort in palm beach-- what am i thinking, palm beach, california, they're both beautiful. and they could raise a lot of money for the one day shin-dig

that the president had with barack obama and bill clinton. that raised close to $30 million. it's possible that donald trump could get tens of millions more. it's hard to say. madison scarpino is there. >> good morning, you can see mar-a-lago behind me, the fundraiser is at a private home in palm beach and expected to raise around $43 million. now, that tops biden's new york city fundraiser that you were just mentioning. last week, with former president clinton and president obama that raised a record $26 million. hedge fund billionaire john paulson is hosting tonight's event. and there are big republican donor names with big money harold hamm, chicago cubs co-owner todd rickets and the list goes on. senator tim scott, ber burgum

and vivek ramaswamy are expected to be there tonight. and the president has more cash on hand with 192 million, compared to trump's 93 million. now, that's the most a democrat candidate has ever raised at this point in the election cycle. trump and his supporters are confident that tonight's fundraiser will help close the gap. >> we're very excited that we got $65 million in the doors in march alone, and raise over 40 million additional dollars for it. we'll have the resources to take our message from one end of the country to the other. >> the biden campaign is calling the fundraiser, cash strapped operation to pay off legal fees and say that donald trump will do the bidding of his billionaire buddies instead of what is best for the american people. donations will go to trump's campaign and the rnc, state

g.o.p. parties and a pac that helps pay his legal bills, but a trump campaign person says that the pac covers he expenses aside from legal fees. last week, a georgia judge denied the motion on the case, and posted $175 million bond in his civil trial. and next week, there are visits to pennsylvania, florida and georgia, a swing state that he's only visited once so far this year, neil. neil: madison, thank you very much for that. madison scarpino and properly corrected me i thought it was at mar-a-lago, it's at the home of a billionaire investor. i can't identify the name, but they're expected to raise a good amount of dough. katie is with us, a former federal prosecutor. when i think of the fundraisers and i think of the big legal bills that the president is

facing, a lot of kerfuffle that he was working over the campaign funds to pay the legal bills. they're mounting now. there's nothing illegal for using tfunds for that purpose, but i'm wondering how you're seeing the legal cases going. they're getting pricey because they're frequent and piling on. >> they absolutely are and looks like at least one of them might go to trial soon. it's not certain obviously at this point, but yes, there's a lot of legal cases that are mounting and he has seemed to withstand that for election purposes, but it is obviously very expensive. neil: you know, he was on a winning streak when it came to these legal matters, protests and appeals, but one by one, in the past week or so, some of the issues have come down to crack down on him and obviously this hush money trial that could start on the 15th, i think it's still scheduled to start on the 15th, having a devil of a time putting off or even dropping the documents

case. i could go on. but even in the case of georgia, that could still be on with the same prosecutor who they didn't like in the first place. so, where does this put team trump? >> it's still an open question in my mind about where any of the cases are going and including the hush money case, even though it's scheduled for trial, there are some last minute things that could happen, including him firing his defense team. which the supreme court has essentially authorized in criminal cases for criminal defendants, so, i'm not entirely sure if that case is going to go forward. it looks like it might and it's a strong case for him so maybe it would be a good gamble to go forward with that. and then in terms of the georgia case, there are many pending issues there, including the appellate court looking at whether fawni willis will be disqualified and on top of that, the judge's decision on the motion to dismiss that case was a preliminary decision that the defense can reraise after

there have been facts put forth. so all of these things still inching along here, but nothing for certain will find against tr trump. neil: real quickly then, katie, if the hush money goes as scheduled on the 15th, presumably it could be adjudicated and done well before election day, i don't know these things, but if you got a conviction out of that, how much of a game changer would that be? >> that is a very good question and it seems like because the consequences are limited there, and again, i think he has a very strong defense and i think it's tough to get a conviction, even in new york, i'm not sure what that would do for his election purposes. there are some people who have obviously expressed if he's actually acriminal that's convicted, that might change their position on him, but certainly, it seems that many people do feel that the weaponization of the justice system is sergeanted and unfair

and very political, so even with a conviction, i don't know that in such a small case, which is essentially more of a misdemeanor case even though charged as a felony, i don't think that would throw him off track entirely. neil: none of this has when you think about it. katie, always good seeing you. thank you. >> thanks. neil: all right, katie cherkasky on that. and you might have heard a thing or two about an eclipse coming. we're on top of it here because for a lot of you in its path. forget about the people who have the path of totality. that there's something else called a path of fluffy clouds that could ruin your totality after this. ♪ ♪ in ideas you believe in.

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>> ♪ here comes the sun ♪. neil: here comes the sun and it will be blocked out by the moon and that's a historic event for those in the path of totality. the total obstruction of the sun. there could be issues like clouds getting in the way of that. i don't want to rain on that parade. steve morgan, fox weather extraordinare, is in dallas where millions are gathering for the big event. what's the weather going to be like for them? >> neil, i don't think you'll have to rain on the parade mother nature might do that for you. we'll have to watch as we look at 20 to 30-year averages, dallas, texas which is where i'm at, typically in early april typically hosts sunny

skies and now this major celestial event, dallas along the path of totality, but we might be having some clouds. it's all about the wind. tomorrow sunny skies, but monday is the day that everyone cares about. the south wind from the gulf of mexico and we might see some clouds and in dallas, many clouds are going to be expected. not the case along the entire path of totality, but when you focus on the cities, dallas is the largest city that's in the path of totality. in texas more than 12 million people live in that path and estimates of around nearly a half a million people expected to flock here to dallas to view the eclipse. listen to what some of the officials had to say. >> hotel rooms are full by and large downtown. we have 35,000 rooms city-wide, which is great from an economic impact standpoint. >> our downtown hotels are booked and i have a feeling that's spreading and more and more hotels are booked.

>> about 99% capacity across the city. good luck finding a room. another option would be camping. but hearing that about 9 # 0 -- 90% of camping spots have been claimed, even choosing to rough it, if you will, is limited. one thing that's not tough to find is the eclipse parties. in the city of dallas nearly a dozen are hosted with thousands expected to attend. some have sold out, but you get outside the city limits, some businesses have already started gearing up outside of dallas because a lot of these texas towns are in that path of totality. >> there's been a lot of folks started a couple of months ago, we expect it to be more than a one-day thing with travelers coming in and we're really pumped. we're hoping for the best, but kind of at the same time overwhelmed by the possible numbers and how you negotiate t that. >> a lot of excitement building

and barbara out of terrell, texas, considering the amount of people that will be showing up, these small towns, in fact, a handful of counties leading up to the big day on monday, issued states of emergency in the event that things do get out of hand because with such an influx of people, that could be problematic, but, neil, we're going to have an influx of clouds, too. so i wonder if that's going to dampen a few of the plans. we'll see. neil: we will see. great job, steven. i appreciate it, steven morgan enjoy the eclipse, totality or not. it's a big event and if you're rushing out to make the big event you could be running out of luck, but not entirely, after this. ♪ ♪ swers. like how to keep your yard looking lush. which paint color matches your bold style. and with the mylowe's rewards credit card, you can save 5% every day.

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♪ >> like that total eclipse graphic. whether it's too late to fly out to locations to see it yourself. lee, what do you think? >> what's going on, neil? no, it's never too late. if you wanted to watch it in a place like indianapolis, consider flying to chicago and drive to get there in a little bit. and dallas, look at fort worth or frisco, the surrounding areas. there's a alternative and you don't have to give up. plenty of sky for everyone to see. neil: you know, i'm hearing these reports, i think there were scattered reports in buffalo, i don't know how many involved, hotelier had canceled reservations at the last minute. you always hear stuff like this, i mean, how do you protect yourself from something like this? >> well, as you know, i'm a big

proponent of travel insurance and i have an alliance travel insurance policy i've used. you want to be covered because of a situation like this, the hotels could say, yeah, sorry, or if the weather is bad and people are canceling. you want to protect yourself as good as you can. a lot of people think that your credit card will cover you, but that's not the case so you have to have that travel insurance to cover your backside. neil: if you booked the reservations, booked in good faith and a long, long time ago when they knew this was coming. can they do it? >> they're not supposed to and airlines aren't exactly supposed to overbook flights either and they do it. neil: good point. >> sometimes they'll try to make an alternative arrangement for you, but they're not required to do so. neil: how is the crowd control for this and what you tell people? >> well, from my understanding, from the last eclipse, which i

did not do anything for, although i did see it in new york city, is that people are just kind of everywhere, there are specific events. i know bloomington, indiana, for instance, is having a event in the iu football stadium and there will be a lot of people there and organized security and at that type of thing and there will be people on the street or in somebody's yard or at a house so there's a lot of variety of things to do for this in organized events and whatnot. neil: you're the best. and thank you for that guidance. we're devoting a good deal of coverage on this on monday, an eclipse special tomorrow night and throughout the special throughout monday, you have to wear the eclipse glasses and don't think you're in front of your tv and know you can't do that. and i know i'll get e-mails from people, you said. all right, fox continues. many were shocked to learn they've been paying 22% on their credit card balances. and if payments were late, as much as 30%.

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