♪ ♪ will: thank you. [laughter] i was worried about my dignity and then -- [laughter] rachel: my kids are going to love this. pete: i'd like to thank wade works creative. rachel: thank you, chip. i'll be on the big saturday show tonight, so make sure you cast it. if -- you catch it. neil: fox on top of terror threats front and center. the u.s. moving warships in the middle east as it prepares to defend american and israeli

forces in the event of an attack by iran. new reports say u.s. intelligence is monitoring iran moving military asset es within its own country as president biden issues a familiar message, don't. and all of this as fbi director christopher wray says he's worried about the rising terror threat here, right here at home in the wake of that a isis-k attack in russia which he says could be duplicated here at home. and then there's the border, the afghan national on the terror watch list now back in u.s. custody after a being released not once, but twice. so many developments, so let's get right to it. ♪ neil: welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. to lucas tomlinson at the white house monitoring developments, that is to put it very, very closely, he's actually in rehoe both beach, i should say, delaware, with the president -- rehoboth. one of the first things that comes up is our intelligence is monitoring activity from the iranian, we just don't know

where this could be going, right? >> reporter: that's right, neil. and it appears that iran is already ignoring that a warning from president biden yesterday. earlier today, want to bring up this video, israeli government says that this cargo ship, a fort geese-flagged cargo ship, was hijacked by iranian forces outside the strait of hormuz earlier as officials say it does have links to israel. and as you can see here, this helicopter showing iranian forces rappeling down from the if helicopter, and this ship has been hijacked. here was president biden yesterday. >> reporter: what is your message to iran in this moment? >> don't. >> reporter: are american personnel at risk, mr. president? mr. president, are our american troops at risk as well? if. >> [inaudible] we are devoted to the defense of israel. we will support israel, we will defend, help defend israel, and iran will not succeed.

>> reporter: don't, a similar refrain from what we've been hearing since the october 7th massacre from the president's cabinet. >> any country, any organization, anyone thinking of taking advantage of the situation i have one word, don't. enter to any actor -- >> to any actor, state or nonstate trying to take advantage of this crisis to attack israel, don't. >> anyone thinking about trying to take advantage of this atrocity we have just one word, don't. >> reporter: it appears they were all reading from the same script. now yesterday former trump cia director and secretary of state mike pompeo outlined what he thinks could happen next. >> it won't surprise me if it's a strike that has some level of am ambiguity so that the iranians won't unite the whole world against them. maybe could be a cyber strike, could be a strike through a

proxy. on the other hand, they my decide to launch missiles directly from iran into an israeli asset somewhere in the world. >> reporter: as far as u.s. military assets in the region go, neil, the uss dwight d. eisenhower air raft carrier strike group is in the red sea and has been moved close closer to israel to respond if necessary. neil? neil: lau cat tomlinson -- lucas tomlinson, thank you for that. growing concerns about the growing terror threat not only in that region of the world but, well, our region of the world. something that christopher wray, the fbi director, outlined in detail this past week. let's get the latest from david spunt. david. >> reporter: hi, neil. the fbi director is known to choose his words carefully. he made it clear the threat level to the united states is the highest he's seen in his professional career. if fbi director wray is pushing members of congress to

reauthorize fisa, specifically section 702. fisa stands for the foreign intelligence surveillance act. it allows intelligence agencies to collect communications of people overseas without a warrant, and it is possible someone in the united states could get swept up in that collection if talking to a suspected person overseas. >> 702 is crucial to our ability to warn and and protect our critical infrastructure from hackers in china, in russia, iran including cyber threats to our electricity, our water, our hospitals. >> reporter: some republicans and democrats joined together and pushed to reform section 702. they wanted a warrant to be required when it involves the data collection of someone in the united states who may be talking to someone overseas. that measure failed. fisa passed the house of representatives but still awaits action in the senate.

the passage in the house though prompted a sense of relief in the hallways of the fbi and and cia, two agencies that want to continue using fisa's 702 as is. there were more than 200,000 abuses of fisa over several years, but they occurred before reforms were put in place back in 2021. director wray touted some of those reforms but some republicans still are not convinced. watch. >> i don't trust you. i don't think that this is necessarily e a funding problem that we have for your agencies as much as a leadership problem. >> reporter: director wray also warned about the threat from the people's republic of china. he previously said the bureau opens a counterintelligence investigation into the chinese government roughly every 12 hours. neil? neil: david, thank you for that. david spunt. we've got ross smalled if -- ross smalling with us, author of the best selling war without rules. general, very good to have you.

let me first get your with take on this movement we're watching in iran. they're shifting some positions around and moving some things around. they seem to be preparing for something. also coordinating with some proxies of theirs. what do you make of all of that? >> well, i sure don't expect them to do anything directly against israel because i don't think their forces are up to it. i do expect them to use proxies. hamas is pretty much defeated in gaza, so perhaps hezbollah, perhaps if some proxy forces that are operating out of syria is what i would expect from the iranians at this point. neil: so the next question then becomes what to do about a israel's response to that whether through proxies or, you know, iran itself. and apparently, general, we have been telling israel to carefully weigh any response to such an attack adding it's potential that it could further spark escalation. i would imagine the israeli are response to that would be we'll take it from here, but what did

you make of it? >> and it would be the same response we would have if somebody was going to advise us on how we might respond in terms of despending ourselves. so i think -- defending ourselves. it's nice, but ultimately the israelis are going to do what they think is best for them. neil: i guess that's where the escalating fears come in, general. you and i have talked about this before, assuming that israel is attacked directly or indirectly through some of these proxies by iran, it is almost assuredly going to respond. it has already anticipated that likely that would be -- indicated that would be within iran itself. i guess our reading of that is that is an escalation and all bents are off. do you concur? -- bets are off. do you concur? >> well, if you look at the region, the houthis have been doing things, hezbollah has been silent, but they're capable. then you've got isis operating out of syria. so, or you know, i wouldn't say that iran has been necessarily silent. i mean, you can trace october 7th directly to them. so, you know, their ability to

escalate at this point in terms of real military force just really is limited to their proxies. and i think the israelis can handle that. and furthermore, i think this is a good opportunity for us to think about taking out the nuclear capability that they're advancing. they're close to getting weapons. neil: do you think that invites the russians or the chinese to get involved? >> well, neil, as i've said before, they're already involved. they're supporting iran. it's mutually supporting. they're supporting iran. the russians both and the chinese, and the chinese are supporting both with resources. so this is the already happening. it's almost kind of theater to think that we would, you know, restrain ourselves from defending what has been active attacks that have been going on, ongoing since october 7th in the ream. neil: the start of this war, more to the point october 7th, general, stepping back to something that a christopher wray was mentioning in testimony this week where he detailed these terror threats and not

saying they're all being triggered by what's going on in the middle east, but that's sort of galvanizing a lot of bad guys, essentially, all over the world. do you agree with that? >> i am, i do agree with it, but i'm more concerned about the fact that we've let millions across our border. so now you couple the fact that there's a legitimate threat and you've got millions of people operating in the country that potentially could be part of that threat. that's the thing i think tata concerns me. moreover, just in terms of fisa is i do think it's, it's okay to want a warrant when it involves a u.s. citizen. and i'm not sure why we couldn't get there. neil: you know, you mention these terror threats at the border. you're familiar with this afghan national, you know, who was on the terror watch list who was let go twice, now he's finally back in custody. but every time i hear stories like that, general, i worry about the ones who did get away and who were released. >> unfortunately, you know, law

enforcement particularly as we're dealing with illegal aliens in the country has been lax. i mean, you look at the guy that is a repeat offender just stole a boat in new york, and they let him out and he just tried to steal another one. this is going on in all our major cities, and so when you couple that with this terror threat, it's kind of terrifying to note that our law enforcement just isn't what it should be. and that's a part of our, a part of our defense. neil: you know, general, one of the great things i enjoy about talking to you is your sweeping sense of history, particularly military and terror history. what scares me about this and i, it hit me when i even talk to my kids, a couple of them born after 9/11, and so for this and and for them, this is the stuff that's in history books. guys our age, of course, we lived through it. it defined who we are and how we think, and i wonder whether we're getting too sanguine about this, too relaxed, oh, yeah, the

terror threat, we get it. even what christopher wray was saying kind of fell on deaf ears. yeah, yeah, it's a threat. yeah, we heard about the moscow attack in the theater and all of that. i guess it could happen here but almost like a. >> shrug shoulder response. what do you make of that? >> well, we're blending now all the elements of the terror war with all of the challenges we faced during the first cold war. they're coming9 together. both the nuclear threat, a cyber threat, infrastructure threat and then you have the terror threat. so, and we're just not prepared, i think, at this point because of, you know, the covid and what it did to our economy, you know, the inflation. we're just, our industrial base, there are so many things that we're behind the 8-ball on whereas for both those situations, the cold war and the war on terror, we were actually kind of at the height of our game. now we're kind of on the back foot on both elements, so big,

global, national threat from the cold war type threats and then you have these terror threats that are, they've never really gone away. so, yeah, it's probably one of the most channeling times in our country from a national -- challenging times from a national security perspective that we face. neil: yeah. we're so used to the warnings that we tend to ignore them. general, or thank you for your incredible service to this country, sir is. rob spaulding, author of "war without rules." remember, when it comes to terrorists, that is their motto, if you think about it. a couple of developments as i've been sitting here getting more news out of the impact of any potential attack on israel. the dutch airline, klm, is no longer flying to israel proper. it's open to tel aviv, but that's about it. the state department and various government official agencies from all around the western world are saying the better part of valor is just to the not go to the region at all, and they have included a number of other countries in that list saying,

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neil: all right, some disturbing news out of sydney, australia, this morning. a madman went on a stabbing spree inside a shopping mall. he killed six people, injured at least eight others including a 9-month-old baby. can you believe that? we're told that baby could be okay after some needed surgery. after the attack, the 40-year-old suspect was being chased by police when he turned around, raised the knife at an officer. he was shot and he was killed. the police commissioner says there has not been a terror-related incident there, this is not defined as such. she does not believe that there is any ongoing threat and that the assailant acted a alone. but how crazy is that? in the meantime, we're still playing -- paying attention to israel as they wait for this

so-called imminent attack by iran in response to an israeli attack on an iranian consulate in syria. the bottom line is they're still waiting. danny danon is the former israeli ambassador to the united nations. ambassador, always good to have you. what's the latest? >> neil, we are on high alert here in israel. we take very seriously the threats coming from tehran, and this morning we we heard about a vessel, civilian vessel that was hijacked in the arabian sea by the iranian military, the irgc. you know, it's very interesting because we spoke in the past about iran being a state sponsor for terrorism sending money mostly to their proxies, but you see the iranian military hijacking in daylight a civilian cargo vessel and taking the vessel with the crew to iran as we speak. so we see that version of iran. we are on high alert.

our air defense system are ready. with we don't know what will happen, but we are ready to protect our civilians and to retaliate if we have to retaliate. neil: so when you hear about these warnings from the united states to israel no less be careful how you react because that could lead to something biggerring you know, etc., do you chafe at that? >> so i think first, you know, the western them can crasses should -- democracies should threaten, push against iran, not against jerusalem. look what we are dealing now. we are dealing with a southern state, iran, threatening another state to send ballistic missiles. it's unheard of. so if that will happen, we will have no other choice but to respond, to realuate. we will not allow -- retaliate. we will not allow iran to change the equation in the middle east or the relations between israel and our neighborhoods. so i think the -- should be on iran.

we want to have stability. we have no interest to open a front with iran, but if they will attack us us, we will not sit idly by, neil. neil: ambassador, you mentioned at the outset, i thought it was a very important distinction between iran and what it's doing, of course, the seizing of this ship. you know, we're getting conflicting reports as to whether it was iran directly or their proxy, houthi rebels, no idea. but you didn't draw that distinction, and i thought that was rather interesting. so if israel is, indeed, attacked let's say by a proxy, you would still associate that with iran and respond by attacking iran? i'm taking that leap, but i just wonder what you meant by that. >> no, i agree with you. you know, we will defend ourselves and re258 -- retaliate no matter what. but there's a huge difference in, say, a proxy of iran that we saw in the past few weeks from the lebanon, from yemen or even iraq will send a uav into our

direction, or you can have a rocket or uavs from iran flying into israel. it's different. and the retaliation will be different as well. neil: so if it's a proxy that attacks you or, you know, somehow gets through your dome and lands a missile in israel proper, that's very different than were that it was the iran directly and that would affect whether israel responds directly are by going into iran directly? >> so if you hear very carefully to what the leaders of tehran said in the last few days, they said very clearly that they want to send a message and to send a police withic missiles -- ballistic missiles from iran to israel. and that's something you know we have a very young country, 76 years. it's never happened. and last time it happened was during the gulf wars where we had the ballistic missiles flying from iraq into israel. so that is, will change the game

and will change the way we have to act against tehran. they know that. they know that, and we have told the it to our allies as well. neil all right, ambassador, thank you very much is. i always learn a lot talking to you. danny danon, former israeli ambassador to the united nations. again, if we we get any more developments on what's happening over there and that distension that the ambassador was able -- distinction between a proxy-related attack and an iranian-direct attack, he's quite right to say some of the latest intelligence chat chatter we've been hearing is something might be done through one of these so-called proxies. an attack is still an attack, but that would make a big difference to how, potentially, israel responds. we'll be raising a lot of that with the former prime minister of israel, e out barak, who will be joining us. whether you want to separate yourself and just close your eyes to what's going on in the middle east, those rising tensions are rising tensions at the corner of wall and broad

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world we live in right now where oil prices can turn on a dime. this past week they've been soaring. right now a barrel of oil will set you back for about $ing 86. the european-used oil is well over $92 a barrel with. i mention that because it comes with a backdrop of rising gasoline prices as well and rising commodity prices in general. the reason why austan goolsbee's comments were moving the markets is that's what the markets are worried about right now, that inflation could be roaring back. and developments like what's going on mt. middle east could send it really roaring back. some say if an attack were to spread e and if israel were to respond to an iranian attack, go into iran or you're talking $100 oil. we hope unlikely. keith hall is with us, the former congressional budget office a director. of you know, keith, if you think about it, those are kind of the wildcard developments we can't plan on. but, you know, rising prices beget rising interest rates,

beget costlier debt and therein lies your old job and worry. it's more pronounced than ever, right? >> well, that's right. and that's a big part of why you worry about the level of debt. it's the at an outrageously high level right now p and these sorts of things don't just ea affect the economy, it affects our debt payments. neil: and, obviously -- >> our debt can payments now are tremendously high. neil: you're right. i apologize jumping on use because those department payments are more than we fork if over to defense. we're kind of hitting a not so sweet spot here but, you know, we stumble along. both parties keep the government lights on, etc., but meanwhile the debt just grows and grows. for the for the first six months of this fiscal year, a trillion dollars more. s this is out of control. that's probably putting it mildly, right, keith? >> well, that's right. that's right. and the experts have told us that debt is on an unsustainable path. the treasury department, they do

their annual financial report on u.s. debt, and they say it's unsustainable. finish the fed chairs, all the past fed chairs lately have said it's unsustainable. government accountability office says it's unsustainable. congressional budget office says it's unsustainable. we haven't heard very many politicians say it's unsustainable. neil: but we have heard, you kn, from se investors who have made it very clear there's feeling in the middle of this on fears that inflation, it might be sticky to put it mildly, it might stick around longer than we thought. that ease raised fears -- that's raised fears that the federal reserve might delay cutting rates, maybe not cut at all. some have even said maybe raise those rates. i did talk to austan goolsbee on that subject, keith. i want to get your reaction to this. >> if we start getting better readings that show us that that arc of inflation coming down is

true, that will make us feel a lot better about where we are in terms of monetary policy environment. if the pce inflation is reinflating, then like i say, our job is stabilize prices, and we will stabilize the prices. neil: which means you will not be cutting. finish. [laughter] as a i say, i'm not going to, i'm not going to commit to what the policy should be -- [laughter] let's just look at the numbers. neil: all right. what he was talking about there, and you know this better than anyone, keith, the arc of data, you know, is, it's friendly and the price data looks friendly, all is fine with the world. if we get more numbers like the pce, the personal if consumption expenditures index which shows inflation at its core, apparently a favorite number of the federal reserve, that could be another thing and all bets are off. if all bets are off, in other

words, if the federal reserve is not going to be cutting interest rates in this environment, that means rates, market rates remain very, very high and the borrowing costs in this country remain if extremely high. what do you think? >> well, that's right. and that's something that that the congressional budget office in their forecasting, they looked at. and they for a while have suggested that higher interest rates may be here to stay for a while. they may not be going anywhere. and that is going to raise the cost of paying our debt, the way we manage it. neil: you know, i was thinking both republicans and democrats acknowledge the debt is bad. we don't like it. it's not a political issue. it never comes up on the top ten concerns of americans. it should be because they're paying for this. we're all paying for this. to is what happens? -- so what happens? >> well, i'm afraid what's going to happen is we're going to sit here and have the experts fuss about it on the sidelines as we go on year after year until a

crisis hits. could be a lot of things can cause a crisis. and then this debt hanging over our head would cause a real problem we'd have to have some sort of much more draconian measure to get the debt, keep the debt from exploding. neil: scary stuff. keith hall, thank you very much, former can cbo director. he has a buzzer that every time we have another trillion dollars in debt, it goes off. i'm kidding. in the meantime, we told you about these black swan adopts as they call them in the market where something like the middle east rattles people, oil prices soar. that's the latest fear that's gripping the markets. not just the markets. now and then it does, in fact, come up on the campaign trail. donald trump in pennsylvania today where some suspect he might raise it as well. yeah, that thing. someone made it a thing—way back in the day. but where did it come from?

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neil: all right, donald trump's whole trial begins on monday, as you know. this is, you know, the cash payments and all that. but it could be murky. 34 different counts, he is facing. alexis mcadams on what's at stake with the former president in pennsylvania today. alexis. >> reporter: hi, neil. well, he is going to have a rally here, the former president, in pennsylvania. and you can kind of see behind me where we are. there are lots of cars, lots of signs, people basically tailgating ahead of tonight's big rally. but before trump heads to another hearing inside of a new york city courtroom in just a couple of days, he's in the

swing state of pennsylvania today after just yesterday the former president said he would testify at his own trial. watch. >> -- testify at your trial in new york? >> yeah, i would, absolutely. it's a scam. that's not a trialing that's a scam. >> reporter: this is the former president's third visit this year to the keystone state ahead of the state's primary and follows that joint announcement with house speaker mike johnson on election integrity just before his hush money criminal trial begins in new york city on monday. so today he'll have a fundraiser out in bucks county. it's a private but big event is, that's the county where trump lost to biden by 17,000 votes back in 2020, and it's also a part of a major fund raising push by the trump team which has already racked up, neil, around $64 million and counting at recent events. biden has made five trips to the battle ground state this year with more stops planned next week. he'll have a major address in his hometown of scranton and he'll head out to pittsburgh and philadelphia, trying to gain

support on the ground. both candidates working to gain support among black and hispanic voters as a gallup poll shows democrats are losing support from those two key demographics. and trump's trying to pick up more voters here and in those specific voters. that's why they're hitting the lehigh valley region, home of one of the largest populations of latinos in the state. we're expecting 6,000 people, neil, at this rally that's supposed to start later tonight here, and lot of people are looking forward to what the former president has to say. neil: they also heard you're there, alexis. [laughter] >> reporter: that's right. neil: so on the trial that begins on monday with jury selection and the rest are, back to my friend andy mccarthy, fox news contributor. andy, we're looking at 34 felony es in this hush trial, and most of them focusing on upgrading from misdemeanor charges to felony charges. but as "the wall street journal" points out, because the statute of limitations had run out on

even some of the misdemeanor charges, they upgraded them. you know, to the felony level. and i'm wondering, can you do that? >> well, we're going to find out. he shouldn't be able to do that. i think this was at most a misdemeanor, and the reason it's so important, neil, is as a misdemeanor all of the counts would be gone. because what happened here is, what's at issue is how a alone, essentially, from michael cohen -- a loan from michael cohen that was paid in the nondecember closure agreement to stormmy daniels, that's an october 2016 loan are. it's paid back in installments from february of 2016 16 until december of 2017 -- 2017. if it's a misdemeanor, the statute of limitations is two years, and the last payment is december of 2017. so this should have run in to -- 2019. if you were a little bit creator, maybe 2020. but this case would be long

lapsed. the only way he can get it in under the wire is to try to exacerbate it into a felony where he would get the advantage of a 5-year statute of limitations which becomes 6 in new york because in covid hay tacked another year on. neil: which is probably why the federal prosecutor prosecutors dropped any interest in pursuing this and why alvin bragg's predecessor essentially did the same. be that as it may, one of the many brilliants things you said -- brilliant things you said in our last interview i is how difficult it is to find a pool of sympathetic jurors in this bluest of blue cities in new york. you did remind me all it takes is one. and to that a point, "the wall street journal" had an interesting sort of stepback on this saying that the stormy daniels affair was sordid business, but the d.a.'s argument is a legal stretch in ways that might bother a skeptical juror or an appeals court essentially saying as you just did that one juror, it e takes one juror to say, wait a

minute, how likely is that? >> i think it's not as unlikely as people think, you know, having tried cases in that, in that borough. i mean, we did it in federal court where the jury selection's slightly different, but i like jurors in manhattan. i thought that they were very fair-minded for the most part. what i'd be concerned about from president bush's standpoint is -- president trump's standpoint is the main thing i would want to get in front of the jury as a defense lawyer is a legal argument rather than a factual argument that the judge may not if let them make which is that no one other than donald trump would have been prosecuted on this offense. it's it's cover conceivable. -- inconceivable. basically, they made this case for trump. alvin bragg is one of these sort of classic progressive prosecutors who doesn't really prosecute real crime. his practices are basically not to put the pedal to the metal when it comes to charging.

and here you have a case where he's going up a political enemy, he brings a charge that he would never bring against anyone if else, and he takes a misdemeanor and turns it into be gallonnies when -- 34 felonies when the guy who takes felonies and turns them into misdemeanors. neil: be that as it may, this is what we've got, the 34 felonies that could produce a conviction or two or three. then what? enter well, i guess the first thing is in this -- it's hard to believe anyone would be sent to prison for something like this in new york where, again, a lot more serious crime than this often a does not result in incars ration. incarceration. but what would happen, neil, is the trial will take about a sick weeks, let's say -- six weeks, let's say. so that gets us into maybe early june. usually there's about three months between the time a trial ends and the time sentence is

imposed. we could see an extension of that here. and then he could get a sentence imposed. and what would -- we really don't know what would happen. i mean, if he gets a prison sentence imposed and the court remands him and the court of appeals won't allow them to stay on bail pending appeal, you could have litigation over whether he has to surrender or not. but we're a long way from that. neil: do you think he should testify as the president said he would, he wanted to? of course, he said this before and didn't. if you were his lawyer, wald you tell him? -- what would you tell him? >> i think it kind of depends on how the trial plays out. one of the claims he's made which i think, frankly, is implausible and i say this as someone who thinks this is a nonsense case, is that the fling with stormy daniels didn't happen. if she -- i actually think, to your point about a how this is a booking case rather than a stormy case, stormy daniels isn't really even an essential witness here. but if she testifies and she testifies that this affair if

happened and the jury, it's a believable story and the jury believes her, then if he takes the stand, he's kind of got to deny it since that's been his story all along. and if that's not a believable story, he might be better off not taking the stand. neil: got it. we'll watch what happens, andy. monday's the day it all kicks off. >> it sure is. neil: andy mccarthy on all of that. in the meantime, this is an event that's really worth watching. u.s. armed forces facing off this weekend in a ranger competition. wild stuff. madison scarpino is there. madison. >> reporter: neil, it's day two of one of the military's toughest competitions yet. and these rangers, if they made the cut, they're well underway with some of these intelligence challenges. and, oh, by the way, they got little to no sleep leading up to this. so i'll show grow more of what's going on right now coming up. what i do is really important. you give eye exams. i give ... fresh starts. better vision, healthy eyes

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neil: well, they are an elite group of men and women, and now the u.s. armed forces facing off this weekend in best ranger competition. 40th year they are doing so. madison scarpino in columbus, georgia, where all of this is going on. a hey, madison. >> reporter: hey, neil. well, yesterday there were 56 steams to start off the 40th -- teams to start off the best ranger competition and today only 28 remain. we actually got the chance to speak to a lot of these rangers competing, and they tell us it's really just an honor to even be a part of this x. in particular, we spoke to a team from colorado. and at last check this morning, they were in fourth place, so pretty good. here's what they had to say the other day. >> for me, or it's all about the journey, the people you meet. these are all skills that we as soldiers need to have the fight america's wars. and it's something that you guys will get to see over the next three days whether it's doing an urban assault course, i think it makes all of us better as soldiers. >> reporter: so here's a look

of what's going on right now. we're going to get this guy to fire this power tool up here in a second. this is one of the many obstacles that are on this field here today. and this one, the point of it is is to know how to escape a lot of different situations. hopefully, he gets it fired up here in a second so we can show you. but this is one of almost. a dozen exercises on this field in particular going on today. after this -- oh, here we go. they got a blackhawk helicopter that they have to go into the river nearby. they'll do some water exercises there and then take the blackhawk helicopter again back to the base. and if that that kind of sums up this early afternoon competition. but look at that, some pretty intense stuff going on here. and, yeah, this is one of 32 competitions throughout those three days. i mentioned before that these guys are really going nonstop. there's some little breaks here and there, but in reality we're told that they have little to no sleep. but, neil, we're going to be

here all day long and we'll keep you updated with if anybody gets eliminated. tomorrow there's only going to be about half the teams but some pretty cool stuff and very intense. neil: indeed. they're a different breed, madison. i think it's a little different for us. [laughter] that's great stuff, i appreciate that. in the meantime, do you remember jerry maguire and the hyperventilating sports agent? leigh steinberg was the inspiration if for that, so we wanted to get leigh to talk about what the olympics is considering. in fact, not consider in the case of track and field, the winning athletes could get up to $50,000 for a gold, cig very or bronze medal. -- silver on bronze medal. more on that after this.withso if m so i hired body doubles to help me out. splurgy tina loves a hotel near rodeo drive. oh tina! wild tina booked a farm stay to ride this horse.

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neil: when the gold gets some gold or cash, that will be the same for some athletes, track and field more specifically at the paris summer olympics. you get the gold, i think i extended this to silver and bronze, apparently it's just the gold, $50,000. leigh steinberg is here, sports agent extraordinaire, inspiration for jerry maguire. this guy's a genius, so maybe he can help me make sense of this. a lot of people saying and i'm sure a lot of other athletes saying what you do for track and field, you were the do for me. i heard from the table tennis if guy, they're irate. so what happens? >> so the last vestige of amateurism is the olympics although some of those teams are trained more by professional as. nils, name, image, likeness has now extended the ability for high schoolers and all college athletes to make money.

we have gambling involved now with professional sports, so this was the last stand for amateurs -- neil: yeah. >> and now it's gone. but again, neil, it was never all that pure. there are a number of countries that that paid their athletes before they ever came. neil: well, that's true, and i had heard about that. but then, leigh, what ends up being the distinction if you're, let's say, a highly compensated amateur, i guess your goal is to be a highly compensated professional. but there's no distinction, right? >> i think that's all been washed away in the revolution of the last few years in sports. we have conference realignment where teams are playing far outside their geographical limits. we have nils where we have athletes as young as 15 or 14 branding themselves. making commercial deals.

we have a brand new landscape here, and it leads to all sorts of problems. now, the athletes would argue that may have always been undercompensated, and if the olympics is makeing prodigious amounts of money with their broadcasts, then they should share in it. neil: well, or let me ask you about that, leigh. we don't have much time and you're a great guest, and i'm really intrigued by your career. you're also a great agent. so you're representing a young man or woman who's looking at this environment, has great potential. how do you steer that career? >> i would say that every young athlete needs to be branded with a web site and with profile, and they can monetize that. is and so you're just seeing at a younger and younger age, i

mean, pretty soon agents will be stacked up outside the maternity wards looking for healthy mothers. neil: wow i. >> so this gets younger and younger. and i think that this whole wave of professionalism is here to stay. neil: it is. and it's now. leigh steinberg, sports agent, steinberg sports chairman, since praise for jerry maguire, much, much more. and he's stating it right, the money and the times have changed. it's just a graying of the line, but the financial lines are clearly plot whered out. all right, we'll see how that goes in paris, see how everything is going right now in israel. so far no attack is on. a rot of concerns about -- a lot of concerns about one that could be launch imminently, but what is imminently? after this. are so many of you who have served your country honorably, whether it's two years, four years, or thirty-two years, like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran

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