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>> steve: when she was in second grade she said get a basketball scholarship and play in the wnba. >> that's incredible she set that goal as a second grader. she put in the work to achieve it. a lot of people dream some really big dreams but to actually put in the work to make your dreams come true is incredible. >> steve: what was the last text message you sent to her during the tournament? >> it was just good luck, have fun, enjoy the experience, and go win a national championship. >> steve: she listened to her coach because that's what she did. thank you very much for joining us live. congratulations. >> thanks for having me. >> steve: that's awesome. all right. bill and dana next right here. >> bill: good morning, former president trump in moments back in court for day two of his criminal hush money trial in new york. jury selection resumes at about
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9:30. not a single juror was picked on day one. 50 were released. the president facing 34 counts of falsifying business records. we'll watch the updates and bring you to the courthouse in a matter of minutes. first there is this. [shouting and chanting] >> bill: it was from coast to coast america. anti-israeli protestors grinding traffic to a halt. the scene on the golden gate bridge and agitators shut it down for nearly five hours. we watched it yesterday along with martha maccallum who was working the afternoon. i'm bill hemmer. dana has the day off. >> martha: good morning. good to be with you as always. i'm martha maccallum. great to be here on "america's newsroom" in for dana today. we watched this emerge late yesterday afternoon. they paralyzed bridges and highways across the country,
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from chicago, new york city and l.a. they chained themselves to things. burning the american flag and waving the flag of the group of hezbollah. >> bill: california, new york, chicago, miami, tampa, seattle, san antonio, protestors calling for an immediate cease-fire in gaza. here is what it sounded like in new york city. [chanting] >> bill: might be shades of things to come for this summer. we have reaction, lauren green reports from new york. the reporting from l.a. and california, bill melugin leads our coverage today. good morning. >> good morning to you. the california highway patrol confirmed to fox news they arrested more than two dozen anti-israel protestors who shut down the golden gate bridge for hours yesterday and they could now be facing serious criminal charges instead of just a slap
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on the wrist. look. this was the scene on the i con i can golden gait bridge as pro-palestinian activities held up signs saying stop the world for gaza. the result was a shutdown in both directions on the bridge for five hours. california highway patrol told news the protestors' conduct was illegal and incredibly dangerous. the san francisco d.a. may charge protestors with more serious offenses, false imprisonment, unlawful seam and other things. chicago's o'hare airport it caused commuters to walk a long distance, get out of cars with luggage in an effort to catch flits. they confirmed to fox news 40 protestors were arrested there. the anti-israel protestors arrested in the protests across the country may get a hand from
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democratic dark money. the website of the group that organized these protests directs users to a bail and legal defense fund hosted through act blue the democratic party's online fundraising juggernaut funded in part by george soros. it asks people to support community members criminalized in the u.s. for solidarity with palestine. if it felt like everything was coordinated yesterday, it was. everything was organized by a group called a-15 action, a new group that worked to -- and i quote, coordinate a multi-city economic blockade on april 15th in solidarity with palestine. send it back to you. >> bill: see where it goes in a couple of months. bill melugin in los angeles. >> martha: lauren green continues our fox coverage here in new york city. >> hundreds of anti-israel protestors descended on some of new york's most iconic locations
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yesterday stalling traffic and creating havoc. [shouting] >> it was an assault on america in america as one proper the testor burned the nation's flag and another protestor waved a palestinian flag. there was a protest in new york yesterday. one of the largest organized since october 7th attack on israel. [shouting] >> in lower manhattan near the new york stock exchange protestors channeleded calls to eliminate israel. one with the flag of hezbollah. other protestors shouted death to america. some faced off with pro-america and israel supporters. one defiantly holding up an
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american flag yelling turned to shouting and shoving and police stepped in. on the brooklyn bridge police on bikes had a no tolerance policy and chased protestors off the street. several you were put in handcuffs. there were only four arrests. many were loaded into a bus. now by 5:00 p.m. yesterday the protestors were cleared and bridge reopened. police are bracing for more as israel plans a counter offensive against iran's missile strikes. back to you, martha. >> martha: thank you very much. >> bill: dan, good morning to you. you told our producer president biden, if he does not confront the protests will grow and grow and further intensify. you know where the protests are coming from, the left. what would he do in an election year? >> two things about this, bill. first of all good to be with you both this morning. i find these images jarring. i was just traveling to a couple
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of u.s. college campuses over the last couple of days, university of michigan on sunday and i was stunned by what i saw that was going on there. the pervasiveness of what you guys are reporting on is quite alarming. two things, one, these -- this is a wave of anti-semitism i never thought i would see in my lifetime in the united states of america. that's the first thing. it -- you go back and look at history. almost every century going back thousands of years there have been these periods where waves of and i semitism spiral and sometimes go out of control. i feel like we're watching that a slow motion train wreck right now over the last six months. interesting is when this stuff started soon after october 7th when i raised concerns, i was told by some of my friends on the left don't worry, it will die down. the oxygen will come out of this. the opposite has happened. these protestors and protests have not been confronted and grown and grown and grown.
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i think for president biden, this is both a challenge and an opportunity. this is his opportunity to have a sister soldier moment like bill clinton when he was running for president when he confronted dangerous elements within his own coalition, within the left within his coalition. president biden needs to stare this down and confront it. it is the wise thing to do for the sake of the country and the wise thing for him to do politically. there are a lot of quiet but reliably independent voters out there that president biden and trump will be competing for. even if they aren't jewish or not paying attention to events in israel, they see this breakdown in order that we're watching right now on the screen as a proxy for overall breakdown in our society unless it is confronted. these voters don't care which president it is and which party they are, they want some normalcy restored. >> martha: i want to draw our viewers' attention to bill
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mcgurn's "wall street journal" piece that catches on some of what you are referring to. the obnoxious genocide joe protestors. to these people president biden is genocide joe. the irony although mr. biden's initial response to the hamas bruch re was firm he has been sliding away from his own words ever since and moving closer to what the protestors want. your thoughts on that, dan. >> first of all, i think he is right, bill is right here. president biden basically the turning point was right around when israel was at a decision making point what to do about going into southern gaza and security council resolution and state of the union address. that was the period you start to see a shift by the administration. the problem with the direction they are heading in. no matter how far they go in the direction of where the propers theors want them to go they'll never go far enough or never be
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able to mollify these protestors. in the process of pandering to this part of the democrats's coalition they'll turn off a whole other segment of the electorate and do real damage to the united states. so i think it's a loser's game they are playing. they will never be able to win these people over. people that are protesting are so irrational, so ill informed and so knowingly destructive the idea that you can win points with them to the point that you will calm them down by kind of signaling to them that you sort of agree with them is just completely foolish. i think the president needs to stop trying to pander to them and start confronting them. >> bill: good luck with that. they are organized. i listed all the cities yesterday and left out a few, too. you might expect it in chicago, new york, and san francisco but san antonio? tampa, florida? this is a prairie fire waiting to ignite and it could get much worse this coming summer. >> it doesn't happen by
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accident. it is not organic. look out for the democrat convention this summer in chicago. it could reach a whole other level. >> bill: we'll be there for it. thank you for coming on today. we mentioned this. former president donald trump could speak to reporters any moment now as day two of jury selection is set to resume. how would you like to sit in that courtroom all day long? man, oh man. >> dana: actually i think it would be quite interesting. i think it will go through june, right? that's the expectation here. >> bill: see if they make any progress today. >> martha: it's not like folks don't know what they are signing up for. >> bill: stand by on that and then there is this. check it out. >> no acceptable level of violent crime. too many communities are still struggling and too many people are still scared. >> martha: garland will talk
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>> bill: we mentioned this, we may get comments going on. jury selection will resume in the former president's hush money trial in new york city. day one wrapped up yesterday. i think we can debate whether or not day one was a success because there were dozens of jurors who were just dismissed out of hand. eric shawn has the preview live outside court today. eric, to you, good morning.
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>> hey, bill. right you are. they didn't have much luck yesterday. maybe more luck today because yesterday more than half of the prospective jurors were dismissed because they said they could not be fair to former president trump. in court yesterday basically more than 50 of those jurors of 96 called were dismissed after they raised their hands when asked if they could not be impartial to the defendant. the first batch of 18 jurors sat in the jury box feet from the former president while he continues to slam these proceedings. >> it's a scam. political witch hunt. it continues. it continues forever and we won't be given a fair trial. it is a very sad thing. >> the jurors will remain anonymous. they could be seen reacting to the former president in the courtroom. some stared at him. one woman in the rear of the courtroom giggled for a while. one juror said i feel that no
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one is above the law whether it's the former president or a janitor. another said i just couldn't do it. others said they could be fair. most of the jurors say they get their news from "the new york times," cnn, a if you do watch fox news and read the "new york post." people who may want to get on the jury with an agenda to swing it will be found out and that a fair jury can be seated. >> they will be able to weed out, i think, in my opinion all of what i call stealth jurors. you worry in high-profile cases that you will have stealth jurors. that's your biggest fear as a trial lawyer. >> former president claim that the judge is not allowing him to attend his son's graduation in florida. that's not the case. the judge said that he will rule on that later and has not made a
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decision and he said the former president may attend that graduation, it depends on the progress of the trial. back to you. >> bill: i believe that's may 17th is a friday. so good chance. we'll see. thank you, eric, nice to see you. >> martha: let's bring in an dee mcgarthy. we're waiting for the arrive all of former president trump. it could happen any second. if he stops to make comments we'll take everybody there. what do you think of the process so far? let's put up the numbers on the screen. 96 potential jurors were at the start. now down to about 32 that remain. you hear eric shawn's quote the one woman walking out said i just couldn't take it so how is this looking? >> it looks like a big case where it is tough to get a jury. i had a terrorism case a number of years ago in manhattan where it took us a month to get a
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jury. we probably went through thousands of jurors to get the jury that was finally seated. it is kind of -- i would say it is like a multi-layered process. so we're in the very beginning now where what they do is they take the questionnaire and they look at who can be struck for cause just on the face of it? you try to weed out all the people who don't want to sit. i actually think it is good for president trump. it is good for the state, too, if you get jurors who honestly say i can't be fair or i just don't want to be here. those are not jurors you want on the jury. what you worry about is the people who try to get on the jury, not the people who honestly tell you they don't belong on the jury. once you go through that first phase -- >> martha: could this take a month to seat the jury as it did in your terrorism case and will the judge have patience with that? >> well, this is what judges do
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so it's part of the gig. we had 12 defendants and this is only one. it is quite a one so that -- the problem is, he is a very notorious figure and people have a lot of deep feelings about him. there is no problem with having feelings about him, including liking or not liking him. the issue is you are trying to find people who can put aside what they may personally feel and who can analyze and be fair in terms of the case. to get to that point you really need to interview them one-by-one. that's the really tedious part of the process. >> bill: in the modern era when you look at social media feeds and you wonder did they scrub to try to get on? that's the definition of a stealth juror. you write that trump's best defense may be to show that he is guilty of a misdemeanor and if he did that, how would that
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help him? >> i'm not saying that he needs to -- i'm not saying he needs to say i'm guilt eye of the misdemeanor. what i think he needs to do. i believe legally he is entitled to this is to get the judge to give the jury the choice to convict him of the lesser-included offense, which is the misdemeanor falsification of business records as opposed to the 34 counts here which are the felony falsification in order to conceal another crime. because if the jury feels like they just feel like they need to convict him on something, the simple falsification of records, the evidence of that is stronger than this idea that he did it to conceal a campaign finance violation which bragg doesn't have authority to enforce. but the up side for trump, if they were to convict him of the misdemeanor instead of the felony the statute of limitations on the misdemeanor
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is two years. it left in 2019. he would have an argument the case needed to be thrown out. >> martha: that -- it is such thin greul here, andy, in terms of what is still valid in these charges. the only way that he was able to stretch out the ability to have this trial tell me if i'm wrong, was to take it to the felony level and tie it to the campaign, which as you say he may not even have the jurisdiction to do. >> if we could just put trump aside for a seamarks martha. what people ought to be troubled by about this is bragg isn't just trying to enforce federal campaign finance law, he is making up his own federal campaign finance law because the two federal authorities that actually do have jurisdiction to investigate these, the justice department and the federal election commission, both looked at this and decided not to proceed against trump because
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these are not campaign expenses, number one, number two, even if you assume that they were, the next reporting period after the stormy daniels payment, the non-disclosure agreement, wouldn't have been until after the 2016 election. it would have been in 2017. bragg's theory here is that trump violated his version of the campaign finance laws in order to steal the 2016 election. that doesn't make sense legally or factually. >> bill: want to hang with this picture for a moment. he may or may not walk in. andy, if you are a lawyer representing either side here, the state of new york or donald trump, do you look at voting records, do you have investigators on your team? are you going that deep to find out more about a potential juror? >> well, as the state's lawyer, you would never do -- if you're
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an ethical state's lawyer you would never do that kind of probing investigation of a jury. you content yourself with the very extensive information you get between the questionnaire and the ability to go in and question the juror. you don't want to be probing into their voting patterns because that potentially could violate their constitutional right to the franchise including to vote in secret. this process is not supposed to be done in a way that discourages people from wanting to serve on juries either in this case or in the future. i can't speak to what defense lawyers do. they will look at everything that is available. it is an anonymous jury. it doesn't lend itself to doing social media investigation. it is not impossible but you really have to strain to do that sort of thing. >> bill: with all the media here in new york there could be leaks.
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once the trial is well underway. i would almost expect it. >> but we've had anonymous juries in new york. donald trump is a momentous person. this is a historic trial. but we've had a lot of big trials in new york and a lot of them have been with anonymous juries and i can't off the top of my head remember any of them where the anonymity of the jury got compromised because of what investigators did. we're pretty good at doing this part of it. >> bill: let's keep it that way. >> martha: let's hope. thank you very much. >> bill: minutes away from a statement if we get it we will take our viewers back. impeachment articles against secretary mayorkas will head to the senate today finally. we're live at the border with a look at the migrant surge still happening today. justice department said to be getting ready to bring down the hammer on live nation after a
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botched roll-out of taylor swift concert tickets. we'll get to all that coming up. let's see if we have a word first. >> thank you very much. this is a trial that should have never been brought. i say a trial that is being looked at all over the world are calling. they are looking at it and analyzing it. every legal pundit, every legal scholar said this trial is a disgrace. we have a trump hating judge, we have a judge who shouldn't be on this case. he is totally conflicted. but this is a trial that should never happen. it should have been thrown out a long time ago. if you look at jonathan turley, andy mccarthy, great legal scholars, there is not one that we've been able to find that says there should be a trial. i called a -- i was paying a lawyer and -- i didn't know,
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marked it down as a legal expense. that's what it was. you've been indicted over that? i should be right now in pennsylvania, in florida, in many other states, north carolina, georgia, campaigning. this is all coming from the biden white house. the guy can't put two sentences together. he can't campaign. he is trying to win an election. it is not working that way, it is working the opposite way. check it out. it is called legal expense. that's what you are supposed to call it. nobody has ever seen anything like it. so thank you very much for coming. [[inaudible question] >> the voters understand. look at the polls. the voters understand. the judge should recuse himself.
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thank you very much. [shouted questions] >> bill: defiant to the reporters' questions. he mentioned legal expense several times and being out on the campaign. joe biden will spend three days in pennsylvania this week alone. >> martha: he said this is a trump-hating judge who should not be on the case. we'll see what the pushback is like for comments like that. however, he is on point when he says that this has never -- a case like this has never been tried before. it is a totally novel application of the law and the second time we've seen it in new york. the first time for something that has never been prosecuted against a real estate developer and they had a judgment of $5 hundred million. $500 million was the last round of a case nobody wanted except letitia james. now this case that nobody wanted except this prosecutor and this
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is also a completely novel application of the law that has never been used in this way before. does anyone think that if it weren't donald trump's name on these two situations that we would -- that this would be moving its way through the court system? i think it's a fair question. >> bill: may take two months before we get an answer from the jury. >> martha: might be a month to get a jury. >> bill: we'll manage all that p and continue our coverage live from new york on this tuesday morning where it is already somewhat raucous in manhattan. back in a moment. another option that's not another drop. tyrvaya. it's not another drop. it's the first and only nasal spray for dry eye. tyrvaya treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease fast by helping your body produce its own real tears. common side effects include sneezing, cough, and throat and nose irritation. relying only on drops? not me. my own real tears are my relief. ask your eye doctor about tyrvaya.
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>> bill: iowa taking its own action over illegal enforcement. a new law gives police authority to arrest migrants who are there. kim reynolds signed that bill into law and with me now and good morning to you. the law itself has the words illegal reentry. how is that defined under this law for iowa? >> illegal immigrants unlawfully enters the state of iowa that has been denied or deported, then that makes it a state crime and if they are convicted, they will be put in jail and serve the time. they won't get a deferred sentence. so literally, bill, what it does is sends a message to those crossing our border illegally don't come to iowa. on top of that a couple of years ago we passed a law that said if you are a city or county and designate yourself as a sanctuary haven or city or
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county, you lose access to state funds. this president has not done his constitutional duty to protect the sovereignty of this country and most importantly its citizens. i think the numbers tell the story when you talk about 7 million and growing illegal immigrants that have walked across our border and into our country, 1.7 million gotaways and the border patrol will tell you that's 30% under reported. 250 apprehended on the terrorist watch list. 92 this year. every single state in this country knows the consequences of those numbers, an increase in violent crime, increased drug seizures, human trafficking, overdose deaths. in iowa alone we've seen from 22 to 23 our fentanyl seizures are up and you can say the same for other drugs. we have seen 26 narcotic cases
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from last year that had a direct link to the mexican cartel. interstate 35 is a direct route for the cartels, drug traffickers and human traffickers to iowa. again if this president is not going to do his job, then the states are going to stand up and protect the citizens. that is my number one responsibility as the governor. >> bill: a couple things in here effective july 1st. i don't know if you face a legal case or not. a lot of this could be modeled after texas. you have seen what governor abbott has done there. migrant crossings at the border under president biden versus trump. you are at 2.4 million for trump. already at 7.6 million for joe biden. you have six or seven months before the election. do you believe this could be held up in court or do you think it will be enacted? >> i think it will be enacted. we will move forward. it is modeled after texas legislation. we have a constitutional duty to protect our citizens.
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if this president is not going to do it, we are. we'll continue to take action to defend our citizens and to make sure that we keep them safe and every republican governor across this country is doing the same thing. when the biden administration sued governor abbott trying to protect his citizens and border with the wire 24 republican governors signed on in support of him and his efforts to protect this country. that's half of the country. the number one issue in iowa. the number one issue in america. a national security threat to this country. it is a dereliction of duty. we know on day one trump will put policies in place to protect the sovereignty of this country and its citizens. >> bill: a group against this law. they say iowa politicians
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meaning you moved this ridiculous stunt forward in order to perpetuate partisan campaign rhetoric and mobilize voters using fear and anti-immigrant sentiment. immigrant rights organizations are ready to block this law from going into effect. they call it rhetoric and they say it is ridiculous. you say what? >> first of all, we support legal immigration and we are a country founded on legal immigration. but we are a country of laws. without a border we're not a country. tell that to the moms and dads that have lost children to fentanyl. tell that to the -- look at new york and chicago, look at l.a. the unbelievable crime that is taking place. americans have had it. we support legal immigration. make the system simpler, reduce the cost, tie it to where there is the most need, but we are a nation of laws and we will stand for those laws and stand for this country and do everything we can to protect our citizens.
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>> bill: july 1st is the date it goes into effect. kim reynolds, republican governor from iowa. thank you for coming on. >> martha: severe weather threatening millions of americans across portions of the midwest. the latest forecast coming up. attorneys working to clear scott peterson's name two decades since he was convicted in his wife and unborn child's murders. could new evidence change that? >> it is entirely too selfish. lacey is missing and all of the media time should be spent towards finding her and all of our energy should be spent towards finding her.
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>> mr. peterson has been waiting 20 years to find some of these police reports and audio recordings and video recordings that should have been provided. i don't think the nature of the
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request is a fishing expedition. we believe they are probably very easily accessible. >> martha: lawyer for the l.a. innocence project scott peterson was convicted of killing his pregnant wife, lacey, two decades ago and now fighting to overturn the ruling. he is joining forces with the project we believe that new evidence may blow the case wide open. let's bring in scott peterson's former attorney mark garrigus, welcome. good to have you here. what do you understand about this reopening and do you think it has any substance? what exactly is this new evidence? >> well, they've got new evidence in the form of a report of a van that was recovered the day after laci went missing as you may or may not remember, there was much talk about a van across the street. the police at the time said that
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it actually took place -- the burglary took place. a reporter was covering the case -- [inaudible]. this -- >> martha: you are breaking up. if you can make your voice clearer, that would be great. let me play for the folks at home this flashback. i want to remind everybody about this case and scott peterson was out in front looking for his wife doing lots of media interviews. here is a bit of that. >> all our energy should be spent towards finding her. unfortunately suspicion about me has risen to such a degree that i think people stopped to look for laci. suspicions rose to such a degree people aren't looking for laci. now is the time for me to speak
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and get her picture out there. >> martha: you defended him at the time and you believe he is innocent still? >> i do. i never saw anything that compelled a conviction then, i still don't. i think some of this most recent disclosures of stuff that wasn't turned over, just nothing but point towards the fact that he was not the person responsible. >> martha: i want to get your take on the "rust" movie armorer. she was sentenced yesterday to 18 months, the maximum that was considered for involuntary manslaughter in the death of hutchins. this is the judge giving her before she sentenced her. watch this. >> you were the armorer, the one that stood between a safe weapon and a weapon that could kill someone. you alone turned a safe weapon into a lethal weapon.
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but for you, miss hutchins would be alive, a husband would have his partner and a little boy would have his mother. please take her. >> martha: what do you think of that sentence? >> well, you know, any time somebody dies as a result in this case of the accident, which is technically what this was. they are saying the level of negligence was such that we will hold you criminally responsible. it is tough. i don't think that by definition there was any intent but that is still the law and we'll still hold you responsible and this judge could have laid out exactly her thinking. i will tell you if you are defending alec bald win, this will give you grave concern going into that trial. >> martha: that would be my next question. hannah was on the phone and in custody and picked up their phone calls and going after the
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jurors calling them names and hopes that alec baldwin on also goes down in this case. what should he expect? >> i expect he has a tough road here because, you know, her trial was filled with trying to shift blame to him. i don't know if that was a failure or if that important -- you have somebody already sentenced to 18 months and now he was the person giving the orders and the one handling the gun. >> martha: thank you very much. good to talk to you this morning. thanks, mark. >> bill: here is the breaking news day two of trump's trial in new york and these are still photos that are provided to us by the pool photographer who goes in there at the top of jury proceedings every day. there are three, one difference today wearing a blue shirt

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