mccarthy and then they had the 1958 convention. what i can see happening here a long shot but the only way out of this for democrat is for president biden is to wait until the end of the convention that noc is throwing -- withdrawing and -- because they don't want to not make the vice president because if there's one politician even less popular than joe biden in the united states is kamala harris. >> martha: fascinating parallels in your rates that bring us context of august. really great happy with us, thank you very much for joining us today. hugh hewitt. were watching students get arrested at the university of texas at austin university of texas at austin got very, very borderline -- will be watching this breaking use throughout the afternoon. think you were telling us on "the story," continuing fox news breaking coverage of these the module stands on u.s. campuses back i'll see you back here tomorrow at 3:00. >> ♪ ♪ >> everyone: [chanting]

>> and the israel does loving clearly outside -- as the deadline for cities to end the encampment or face suspension comes and goes. all of the university of texas at austin what is continuing to make arrest as they tried to put stop at the protest there. coming up -- michael waltz you just match what he says needs to be done to restore order. welcome everyone, i'm charles -- for neil cavuto and this is "your world." first! is at columbia with the very latest. alexis? >> you can check it out being me and see that there are hundreds of students here right in the middle of columbia university's campus saying by simply they're not planning on going anywhere we are mighty what the university to follow their demands even though they're not listening to the university president who continues to get growing calls to step down. she also, we'll pan over here, police protesters it is a little bit ago,

again, saying if you don't get these kinds of this campus and you don't get out of the area p. suspension. but listen to what those students had to say. watch. >> the university has conducted itself with hostility and aggrandizement arrogance. -- some of our most basic points. that said we were engaging with good-faith negotiations and so the administration got that under threat of pension. >> back on -- you can tell you this is coming -- what we're seeing here in the campus at columbia university. were supposed to hear from the university president around 5:00 back now we're hearing is an outlet -- i think the students right here i have to get out by 2:00 and then nothing happened and the nypd was waiting to moving instead -- why would they leave, right is what they told me because nothing happens when they didn't even though they were supposed to be suspended. are stepped out of the way she can get another quick

look here. this ebbs and flows mother made message to the university's are not on leaving campus probably still have their tents and even though the president says she knows who's in this group and that they could not graduate, they don't really seem to care, there was also an arrest that happened at least one arrest according to the nypd right outside the campus gates. watch what happens. [chanting] >> so that is just one of the issues that has been out he here. the nypd is used to this point because this is going smack so there been out there waiting together call because it's private property so they have to be called by the university before the woman and then they would probably arrest people for trespassing. a lot of this to his word supposed to be here in the first place. >> charles: alexa vasko fantastic workout thank you very, very much. meanwhile the white house press' at the israel -- doocy is at the white house with

more. peter? about how president biden is nothing anti-semitism has any place on campuses but they know that this is a painful time for a lot of these college aged students who are protesting and so they want these protests to continue as they have been within the limits of the law and that could include later on in the spring at commencements. --

>> and karine jean-pierre would not tell us where she could just tell us how much of these scenes on campuses president biden had actually seen with his own two eyes on television. >> charles: before let you go we are seeing new -- what an corbeil when there is a major reluctance to go in and arrest the students but the other university of texas, austin where the police have been extraordinarily active in trying to clear that seen. is the white house siding with either approach here you mark. >> know and they're essentially saying that it is

up to the individual colleges and universities to figure out how they would want to address seems like you are seeing rather which is pretty extraordinary. >> charles: peter doocy -- by the way news coming in at the university of columbia -- will be 5:00 pm. the move that up just an hour. here is the requester, how should order be restored. by the weight thank you to peter doocy. my next guest says he just met with jewish students at columbia today. journeyman a house in took minimum -- for the public and congressman and former -- michael waltz. with chicago. >> thanks. >> charles: had to be surreal out there. tell us what you saw and what you heard? >> we met with a number of jewish students and with ambassador robert o'brien, president trump's national security advisor and a couple of things came out. one that i actually students what kind of engagement have you had with some of these protesters. these were all jewish

students of -- you know, overseas, here, what have you. they've had nun. none of the protesters will even speak with them. what was interesting it is that they talk to fellow students from saudi arabia, from algeria from over in the region that understand the complexity and they've had good conversations and engagement with them are make but in their words, these kind of woke instagram lawyers once even speak to them and it's the level of ignorance was jaw-dropping. >> charles: you're talking about native americans -- american students going to columbia. >> have never traveled to the middle east much -- much less been to gaza or the west bank or israel and frankly have gotten their news off of instagram and tiktok. >> charles: serve beer reports from time to time from the river to the sea and other really serious threats, how saint louis students, how safe do they -- >> de don't feel safe. and it's just -- i mean, one of them was on the verge of tears. no student should feel that way.

race, religion, social economic background, what have you. and it should be easy and crystal-clear from the white house william to condemn and to say enough is enough and if you're breaking the law and breaking university rules you are done. you're out of there. that's what we're seeing a university of florida, that's what we see at the university of texas and, you know, when you make empty threats like columbia administration did today, then, you know, he have this kind of chaos and you have students that feel horribly unsafe. >> charles: to that point the white house has seen really torturously to cry -- you tried to appease both sides of this situation and dave felt -- failed miserably and i'm wondering then investments feel like feeling that might have been a -- exacerbated this because it's terminated -- we know on what it feels like a lot of this bus is michael has been are considered, some big -- but also the termination of no one coming in and saying unequivocally that this is the right thing smack in certain ways because of what

occurred on october 7th. >> you're absolutely right and this equivocation can't dismiss washington's is on full display for the entire world. on the one hand antony blinken's over in the middle east trying to drive hamas to release the hostages and enter in to a deal yet hamas is watching the students in there watching what's happening at the white house podium and clearly getting the message that time is on their side. if this does hold out our domestic situation here will you do due to your e8 mcmaster politics won't will get worse for biden in an election year, and i think hamas is just emboldened by watching what's going on here and the lack of moral clarity. >> charles: and it comes back to feckless leadership. >> that's right. well, it comes to a concession's first appeasement first if we just back off and of the other side will. no, countries like iran, the

ayatollahs, terrorist groups like hamas scene that at weakness in their emboldened. and what has been so different now if you're over there trying to drive a normalization between the gulf arab states, saudi arabia and israel, what the trend administration did get what president trump it was made around the center of it and a common enemy drove the gold arabs in israel -- israelis together. now with the palestinians in the middle of it they couldn't be further apart and the world is on fire. >> charles: what did the jewish students tell you that they would like to see. lisa bieser college students calico school to have debate, to go to school to learn. so they came to school for conversations kalthoff conversations that i think we prepared for that, was elected by the way to continue the dialog with arthritis? where the physical harassment? >> it was really important and he was heartbreaking and heartening. number 1, where is any conversation at the hostages. five americans were right no as we speak in the tunnels in

gaza. much like -- much less the -- and that rape is not a form of resistance. let this kind of moral equivalence no and what happened is an accident led idea, you know, collateral damage versus targeting civilians in the way that hamas did and then separately this can -- compound dialog. dc we're studying in a place where our voices should be heard and all voices should be heard but you have decided not interested in hearing the voices. >> charles: -- the new city police department -- is 20-quart public -- program property but we got a minute in university of texas obviously and foreword as well where the police have put law and order above those -- safety of the public permission and that supersedes anything -- >> and his actual -- there's a number of court cases. supreme court's cases a year of your first amendment rights but their worst restriction of private property and there are

certainly low in order and safety in harm restriction and when you have kids that are scared for her life because of their religion, because of their skin color then there is -- in my mind a no-brainer. >> charles: goes against everything american stands for. >> that's right. >> charles: representative walls, think you very much, appreciate you. will have much more with order -- as a deadline at columbia comes and goes now he's been calling under university leadership to step up and step down. we will see what those officials have to say remember it's 5:00 pm eastern. and i had a president trump's major retreat for potential dietrich -- peak a new report shows republican -- doug broom is maggie's way to the capitol the capitol -- papagalis. what does he make of it? the governor's here, he'll also be the campus chaos next. >> ♪ ♪ and i'm still working. in the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people who are all younger than you. i had to get help somewhere along the line

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>> ♪ ♪ >> charles: arrest ongoing at the university of texas in austin, you are looking live at columbia university where we are getting word that there will be a 5:00 pm eastern time briefing students are still defying the 2:00 pm deadline. so what interaction does my next just want to seek out multiple ever public and governor doug bandaogo. for commercial. watching these protests spread throughout the united

states, of course, we have images now live images on screen, just your thoughts on how this happened and how mustering? >> sean, this is all the feet of joe biden. we've got the october 7th hamas targeting and killing women and children, families in israel. we've got iran launching a couple of weeks ago 320 missiles at israel, a country the size of new jersey. and i'm about joe biden and joe biden's weakness is what's about this all along. starting with the disastrous visual of afghanistan and everyone of those --'s policies and i'm telling you president trump was an office right now and we were leaving threw strength abroad, we would not be seeing this on our campuses today. can you imagine. students today in america in 2024 after students were to go to class and that's unable to class and is on joe biden. -- --

djibril toure. you have so much influence and it feels like he's always afraid to defend them even when it comes standing up american values. >> nearly that is the case and you heard it out of his own words just less than a week ago where he's trying to have it both ways. is trying to both, you know, pretend that he's in solidarity with israel but at the same time he's trying to locate both home and abroad, folks are standing with a terrorist and you can't be pro- america and pro- anti- america the same time. it is american i think americans see that and i'm sure it was one of the reason why joe biden is falling in the polls right now, you know. >> charles: 1960 there were similar images, college campuses wrana mark and it ended up with the result of that was a runaway victory for richard nixon. do you sense something that

is growing in the country right now? is sort of "we want line order carley olivier this nation? >> absolutely, sean, because you've got a border situation that we have in our country today which is, you know, 2016. president trump was right but it was about immigration then but now it's about public safety exponential security. you can have an over order and have a secure nation and mothers and their families and suburban districts across the nation don't feel safe. or feel safe in their neighborhoods, they don't feel safe when they're out shopping. so yes law and order matters to people and effectively got the sanctuary cities that literally are not enforcing the law, we've seen what that is doing to that and move seen the blue states people leaving blue states to move threw essays and part of that people are thinking believe in places where they feel safe and marla enforcement is respected. so you president trump is so strong on law and order, one thing people maybe don't know but wherever he goes that there is a rally what's going on in the back, he's not publicizing it but you may be

know he's always doing full shoots with local was ever in blue michael oher law enforcement, want to see them, was -- himself if you back to you that we will refer president trump. >> charles: there's no -- leah valdez images right now, university of texas where they are -- the police are more active, more engaged and trying to hold these protests down making several arrests. from a leadership point of view what's your president trump -- biden be saying right now. we are again today a little bit of this got little bit of that. nothing concrete, nothing that would join the students into paying attention. when we are the other. >> president biden has created a situation because all along instead of using the bully pulpit and talking about israel which is our strongest ally in the entire middle east, you know, he's

been drawing a line in the sand for israel is was drawing a line at a time for hamas. if you want this war to end which is what people say they do then is in -- and safe leaseholders tomorrow and then there will be a cease-fire and you can do that but know he's pressuring israel to pressuring the terrorists. it makes no sense, it makes the world that stephen is not -- it was encouraging older protesters here in america. >> martha: something overhead structure for sure. and want to quickly switch gears, governor from a political is reporting more president trump hosting e4 look -- for retreat with placental -- you are among those pics got here been mentioned. and backing reports from axial says you're climbing the ladder. they think expandable race. what you see that? >> will i say that resident trump, it's a critical, this country, of the governor of had the opportunity to serve under president trump but if an opportunity to leave the -- leader seat on the

resident trump and without every american the difference between this is like a beautiful -- in this nation can't take another four years of joe biden. so it isn't about -- is about doing what's important for our country and i'm sure that others are coming -- with fundraising is going great, rnc under laura trump that michael whatley doing a fantastic job. know i party going forward and all of us that are out there helping to support president trump while he's trapped in the sham trials, an important that we are all united cup were all working for the same thing which is we've got to get america back on track so it's all of us working together. >> charles: i will tell y you, during the debates i kept saying in my mind doug burgum might be a good vp pick. i'm just saying, i'm just saying. leslieville there, governor. think you very much appreciated. >> sean, maybe that's because you started your career at the minor air force break -- lease and got -- up the guitar in north dakota soaked love having you as a north dakota resident in and thank

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>> it's been a great run and nothing is that with the low taxes to be inhabited -- to remain strong and have enabled the consumer to take on more and more and more credit card debt and taking on a credit card debt has kept things liquid the consumer remaining strong has kept the economy going despite the fact that the fed is heightening and i can tell you those consumers are getting stretched thin and stretch and stretch and what's going to break this thing if you raised with access to how much of the consumer enthusiasm you lose. >> charles: gary? >> let's be clear because they keep saying expiring the tax cuts will only hit the wealthy. well when you let it expire, it hits everybody. there is no piecemeal eng english. it will hit mary and uncle

bob to the richest person in the country and i must tell you with a government that is that leading, with a credit card used to -- usage skyrocketing, the levitate between the economy is a very thin line and it is really worrisome. some of the other proposals that are cut -- are coming up with -- she insanity of yasmine. >> charles: it would be insult to injury many ways that americans are now grappling with inflation that's back to a four-year high on the base of it picking up yet again and then perhaps next year will have to face on top of that the higher taxes, smaller paychecks. >> yeah, along with potentially, you know, in the ever pay their student debt or, you know, interest rates on credit cards that are, you know, plus 20%, you know, you can only scratch them so far and the thing is that joe biden always promise that taxes wouldn't go up. people making under $400,000 to make any of these tax cuts expire just as gary says that

is not the case and we have a bifurcated economy, you know, lowered 60 are living paycheck to paycheck, they can't afford to buy homes or having to rent those costs are going up and if their taxes go up, i fear that the consumers will fall off and if the consumer falls off or whatever percentage of that consumer you get defaults, you back yourself in to a credit situation that's not worth the risk. >> charles: you know, that bifurcation, gary, has probably never been worse after -- me certainly my adult lifetime that he that i'm seeing the very rich have gotten extraordinarily wealthy because they owned assets that dwell meantime interest rate -- and a lot of economists months -- dated as aggregate data can they say what a great talking about, the consumer is strong, take a look at this. but policies are -- partitions push threw policies based what the economist bumping everyone together so you take ten people barely negative and so in one millionaire and el segundo all doing okay. >> yeah, i just love government statistics that

they throw at us and are not real-world. reel world is what our people paying for at the supermarket for insurance, for healthcare and so many other things. and leno we're talking about, you know, getting rid of the tax cuts, the proposals on the long-term capital gains going from 20 to 44, in saint -- and i think president biden pretty much gets it revive got 30 seconds francis stacey, tracking and related skins. that opens the door to something and sounds just -- your disaster. you think what -- you will ever come to that? >> well i hope it never does come to that because it's such -- it's just when the mentally unfair, you know? you could be taxed at a time when something is really hard and it gets relevant and useful pedal stacks and adjust its further and further and what it will do

is these very wealthy people who keep investing because -- and keeping -- in providing capitol for these endeavors in the american economy, ai, tach, on the things we are are not going to want to invest, you know, it will just change the risk and cognition entirely. >> charles: talking about dancing -- actually everything that moved and others and will also. frances and gary thank you very much. officials will take -- wishing for more activity after delete tornadoes there across america's heartland, car slipped under size, homes and ministers reduced to rubble. will have the latest. and all some house number, are joining calls for a columbia's leaders to step down or step out or step down as anti- israel protests continued to sweep campuses across this nation. one of them is here and will be hearing from columbia officials also 5:00 pm on their next steps so stay with us. >> ♪ ♪ commercial auto quote online.

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peering a path of destruction across the america's heartland that at least five people are dead and hundreds of an -- after the worst tornado outbreak of 2024. fox whether court-appointed katie cars is in oklahoma with the latest. >> hi, sean. we've got another severe weather threats on the way and emergency management officials are urging people who are dealing with damage from the weekend storms to take pictures of that damage and then they're also giving out parts so people can cover any belongings that may be sitting out without roofs like this home here behind m me, crews are still out serving damage here but the telus at least 20 structures across the city look like this and while we've been in town we met family members of the two young people who died here and hold in vilna tornadoes hit it 4-month-old baby and a man and his thirties who lived in this house his family tells us he protected his niece and nephew who were covering at the hospital right now.

>> can't imagine what they're going through. happy for what i got. >> we know at least 100 people were sent to the hospital for injuries because of this. there's a state of emergency declared by the oklahoma governor kevin state and at least a dozen counties as resources are pouring into some of these communities here, charles. >> charles: katie -- katie byrne in holding both, oklahoma. thank you very much. more extreme weather threatening tornado rubbish stage this week. fox news mineralogist adam clark's with more about. what should we be expecting? >> charles, and facilities folks cannot get a break. these are some of the tornado tallies here over the last several days. sixty-three confirmed tornadoes across the plain states likely we're going to see the number continue to think of as they continue to survey the damage. this is where you live no rain currently is.

admitted so active over the last several days that the first concerns continues to be flooding some of these spots are on much of 6 inches of rain, arena still coming on her legal progress is there right along the mississippi river from members of the portions of southern illinois, that rain will continue to kind of shift a little bit as we see more rounds of severe weather pop-up emigrated to the stem -- what more do they not ultimately into anything you see this explosion of big storms across the same hard-hit areas. the problem is obviously not enough time to clean up in some of these spots. in the new storms could likely be in some of the exact same locations we saw him of those big weather here at the end last week in to the weekend. tuesday and wednesday this is our risk for severe weather,. [ engine roars ] on a scale of five but you're running over some of the same spots arkansas initially getting up into iowa and ultimately on wednesday maybe the bigger day of this early care oklahoma back into kansas upwards nebraska, iowa as well as about some of those same spots getting hit them and time again.

unfortunately and it's not just severe thunderstorms which could be a risk but there is so much debris on the ground which adds to the risk here because there is a tornado rest ultimately tomorrow that does linger into wednesday -- wednesday. is a more -- but there is enough debris on the ground that all of it to get thrown around there is obviously be dangerous situation. ultimately i will love you with this because it's going to be a major concern as well and particularly their own wednesday, talked about how much rain we've seen here recently some of these areas on much of 6 inches of rain. what with all those additional storms popping backup, flooding will be a major concern on wednesday and on thursday so unfortunately really no rest here for the weary as the middle of the country again has to gear up for some severe weather. >> charles: really tough, adam thank you very much. meanwhile a group of house democrats managed columbia's board either take the equipment -- impairment down or step down. we'll speak to one of the estimates the private encampment deadline.

but first not all democrats are on the same page over these anti- israel protests. right, aishah hasnie? >> that's right, charles, and will see those divisions -- a big vote on upcoming anti-semitism bill. more on that straightahead. and the president's education secretary on the hill tomorrow, going to get a big really. >> ♪ ♪ with low cost ground shipping from the united states postal service. ♪ pain was keeping me off my game. and now i'm winning again. blue-emu is the powerful relief i need. shop our expanded family of products at major online retailers.

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>> ♪ ♪ >> charles: back to columbia where anti- israel protests persist and no officials are going to provide an update. fox news' alexis mcadams is there. alexis? >> about 15 minutes away from that update from the university, president of the university cupertino to get more calls for her to step down and resigned after a jewish student and the family actually filed a lawsuit that in the past 24 hours against columbia saying they don't feel safe on campus. take a look you can see, charles,'s over my shoulder some of the incumbents with a subset of just the other day when i was out there worth more than 100 tents and that number has dropped. so miniature that is because of this ultimatum from the school's president but still the protests remain cognizant of what the protesters had to say short time ago. listen. >> we will not be moved by these tactics. you can see outside you know that the students are mobilized, there's hundreds

of them here today, they will not be moved. we demand divestment. we will not be moved unless by force. >> not move unless by force. so outside of the main gates though there are a lot of nypd officers remain on standby because this is a private campus so they cannot come in unless they get the call from president minouche shafik, she had not picked up before yet according to sources to ask them to come in but i will -- 5:00 is when everything that will happen from the president with all these protesters again to get out or get suspended by here is for 45 here and they still haven't left. back you. >> charles: alexis, thank you very much now to capitol hill where there's a major debate over these protests. fox news aishah hasnie is in washington with more on that. >> charles,, democrats at least in the house and senate i would say usually are very, very united when it comes most issues but on this one israel that they've been pretty divided and very vocal

about it as of late. the house and actually expected to keeping boots on anti-semitism bill coming up this week. authored by congressman mike waller. there's already a little bit of drama are discriminate below the department of education brought like a broader definition for anti-semitism under college campuses. it basically makes it easier to defund any schools not enforcing that. it is expected to get some bipartisan support from pro- israel democrats but axial is reporting that democratic leader ships mentioned another members advising that jerry nadler a jewish congressman from new york is actually against this bill. this is happening as democrats are exploring with each other over these protests exporting across college campuses right now, congresswoman elon omar setting off fireworks when she said that some jewish students on their word "pro genocide." and without naming her congressman richard torres had back on her on x, writing, or rebranding pro-israel jews as prone --

the humanization at worst." the limit -- senator bernie sanders was sidestepping when he was asked if he is comfortable with omar's words. >> i don't know exactly -- like what i think the essential point that ilhan omar made is we do not want to see anti-semitism in this country and i think the word "genocide" is something that is being -- determined by the international court of justice. >> meanwhile aoc and jared mackiewicz have been going back and forth on x after he questioned sander' stepped -- she called his remarks shameful and charles emotions again -- with the upcoming vote as well as the appearance of the education secretary cardona, is expected to be in front of a senate committee tomorrow, expected to get a lot of green from republican senators. [ engine roars ] >> thank you. a group of house number,

scully uncommitted -- of universities of trustees to remove the anti- israel and coming campus original. for democratic congressman jordan must which is among them and joins me now. congressman lester start with that bit between bernie sanders, aoc, yourself a lot else servers throughout the democratic party on this. what's happening within your party? >> thanks, charles. thank you for having me. i compared the situation to what happened a couple of years ago and charlottesville because there obviously we had people with tiki torches shouting "druscilla replace s. and there's a wide condemnation from the democratic party. there was no splitting over here is there and that was clear anti-semitism demek here in this case right that we don't have aryan man with tiki torches, we have a diverse group of people, device ages, college students shouting, you know, "kill all

the lioness," or "go back to poland." and, you know, we don't seem to have the same condemnation from my side. is much easier to criticize the other side but when you look inward and you see anti-semitism within your own house obviously some democrats want to pretend like that's not happening. and so that's why i think it's important regardless of where we see anti-semitism on the left or on the right, we call it out, we don't give -- with goldplated scrabble game that just because it's on my side that we are silent. >> charles: it has to be particularly painful for folks that you stood shoulder to shoulder with two -- do you feel like you've been stabbed in the back, that the jewish people in some ways have been stabbed in the back? >> charles, let's not pretend like some of this is surprising. we've seen unfortunately some of the anti- israel sentiment building way before october 7th. this is not new. the students that are chanting for divestment practice is not -- this -- detritus over a decade ago the bds movement. so i decade before their

criticism of netanyahu probably tried to get universities diverse with -- so they're regurgitating their greatest hits which is that there against the state of israel, they want the destruction of the state of israel, you want to go back in 1948 which is why you hear them chanting that and that's why i've signed this letter which is, you know, know the time for these universities -- i believe in free speech, i believe in right to protest but, you know, if you're chanting for a free palestine and then that wally starts chanting to bomb tel aviv year at about the lobby rally and discover things violate the code of conduct at the school in the school should be removing these encampments. >> charles: i think though is that maybe after october 7th there would be a different sort of awakening. on april 22nd you tweeted about being with your family capturing your family with -- sentiments jewish student a secular columbia presidents do not make the same choice as the president of yukon and harvard, protector students.

what would you like to hear nightmares from the president of columbia now? >> you know, less than what i was saying is that harvard and you pan cannot answer the question whether calling for the genocide of jews violated economic -- o'connor. an answer that is whether both no longer in their positions. well we are seeing the call for the genocide of jews on columbia campus. is a violation of the code of conduct. the president has noticed that this is a violation of the code of conduct. if you're not gone by 2:00 going to be suspended, he will graduate if you're a senior. i hope that they will enforce this because you can set -- set a redlined columbia did a couple of years ago and and did not enforce it. and now is the time for enforcement so i hope that's what we're going to hear. >> charles: and if we do not hear that what would your next steps be? >> look, at this case, if there are people whether on the board or the president not accepting these terms, setting these redlines, expanding that these are violations of the code of conduct and the students then

say bad so sad we're not going to listen, right, of administration dyslexic students walk all over the code of conduct handbook, and that that time -- have the student's remove order president and the should resign. >> charles: relative jared moskowitz, thank you very much appreciated your macros limits ago -- away from the object from the calm university as the >> ♪ ♪ lord, you know what's on our hearts. you know where we struggle. you know where we need to be pushed. help us give it all to you. the good, the bad. help us turn to you in everything we do. amen. i invite you to join me in more prayer on hallow, stay prayed up

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>> ♪ ♪ >> charles: looking live at columbia university where moments away from an update from the school on those protesters who were five smack were refusing to clear out as a very different story at the university of texas in austin where lots of -- tournament former nypd officer joe parr. two separate of forces -- approaches. just your thoughts on columbia. what we hearing is because it's private property that the police have to be asked or invited or summoned to make arrests. >> i disagree with it. i think it's time to clear them out. you know, charles, these are nothing but hostage negotiation at this point because they're nothing but proxies for interest organizations that are in the campaign over there and they're allowing this. will even know who our students and who students so maybe it's time for the head of columbia to come out and say bring the police and an but -- but give them a list

of listeners are all in the police sort that out and when they find out who's not students get them for criminal law, mr and get them for criminal trespass and let the other one's not be suspended, be expelled. enough is enough, how much are going to put up with eschemic governor -- with the national guard -- nothing of -- black mcjee picks and chooses what new yorkers to protect. why isn't she protecting the jewish students over at columbia? she does have the national guard there, and if enough but have to be educated to school carbon cancer clutches, lusciously going on. this is supposed to be a learning institution. >> charles: earlier on there were a lot of folks who said this is very similar to the situation in little rock years ago and that maybe even the federal government may be the white house should be considering way and somehow with some sort of police protection of the students. >> absolutely. but, you know, the white house introduced back and cater to the likes of the squad, you know, aoc is going

to challenge everybody and you're going to have omar over there and she will be laughing about this, you know, thing the genocide know how these are terms of hate counties are terrorists terms, this is a terrorist organization that they're protecting which is hamas. were supposed to be eradicating hamas to protect other people over in palestine but that's not it. these are what i said was proxies and that's exactly what they are grandmother doing the dirty work for the people that are overseas. >> charles: joke we started the show with representatives walks, florida, he sped up time -- he said one was on the verge of tears, there trembling other afraid. isn't that enough? in the inner for the police to intervene? >> you would think it would be enough but i guess because there were students they're not taking it away but if this was any other group, and other hate crimes, guarantee there would be bringing in on the horses to make them not sure one television for the other channels to say sea like what the police are doing now look at this particular governor are this particular, you know, member of congress is doing, that's what -- this but here's a list whereas, you know,

congressman jared moskowitz general instead you know what we should maybe -- maybe we should stop doing that is get together on this primitive so divided in addition to be. usually crystal clear on what direction we are taking this. this country is taking an opposite direction to everything we stand for. >> charles: absolutely. i agree 100%. that's what it's all riveting and what everyone is hoping that there will be some leadership at some point, maybe we'll hear in about a minute. joker thank you so much, always appreciate when you're on and again you're looking live at those images at columbia there will be a press conference there in about half an hour. we'll see what what happens calli stokes have ignored these protesters have ignored everything so far. that's it for me, by the way neil will be back tomorrow but you can catch me every weekday on foxbusiness the show is called about making money, locale time events. now here is "the five." >> ♪ ♪ >> i'm jesse watters along with judge jeanine