opinion . no opinion. no one opinion . no one gets everyone's opinion. no one gets cancelled, but one gets an easy ride . oh, are you ready for ride. oh, are you ready for conversation that are fierce? frank and of course, fun? every saturday, sunday afternoon from 4 pm. on tv news, the people's. cha hello and welcome . i'm alastair hello and welcome. i'm alastair stewart and for the next 2 hours i'll be keeping you company on tv and radio with the stories that really matter across the country now. amid all the and gloom of the econo mix of the autumn statement , gloom of the econo mix of the autumn statement, more money for the nhs . but it's told to become the nhs. but it's told to become more to cut bureaucracy . and more to cut bureaucracy. and targets are . i hear you say. but targets are. i hear you say. but will it work. how would you do it ? and more money for

it? and more money for education, too. as schools are told to do better in scaling up our children for the world of work. your thoughts too, please. two fantastic panels of both subjects. stay with us. right up until o'clock. but first, let's bnng until o'clock. but first, let's bring you right up to date with all of the day's news. here's anderson . thanks, alistair. good anderson. thanks, alistair. good it's 12:01. here's the latest from the gb newsroom in the united states. five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at a gay nightclub in colorado springs, according to a statement on the club's facebook page. a number of heroic customers were able to subdue the male shooter. they're describing it as a hate attack . describing it as a hate attack. police officials say a suspect is in custody and receiving for their injuries. the fifa world cup kicks off in qatar today, the first time the event has held in the middle east. the opening match will see the home

side take on ecuador with fifa . side take on ecuador with fifa. action on the pitch will turn the spotlight away from complaints over the arab nations human rights record. england captain harry kane is expected wear his one love rainbow armband , showing support for armband, showing support for lgbtq people during tomorrow's match against iran . in total, match against iran. in total, nine countries are said to be making the gesture. amnesty's nima naveed told us she hopes the iranian players use the platform to support women's rights . i very platform to support women's rights. i very much hope platform to support women's rights . i very much hope that rights. i very much hope that the players will do something. and if the players not able to because it's fair to say to them professional athletes , no professional athletes, no exception to the regime's brutality , their own people. our brutality, their own people. our hopeis brutality, their own people. our hope is that opposition players. so the england players may made do something consolidate with women and girls in iran . well women and girls in iran. well back home the housing secretary has written to every english council leader social housing provider warning that deaths

like that of awaab ishak must never happen again. the two year old died as a result of prolonged exposure to mould whilst living in social housing . the chief executive of rochdale borough wide housing, gareth swarbrick , was sacked gareth swarbrick, was sacked yesterday due to the council's handung yesterday due to the council's handling of the issue . michael handling of the issue. michael gove says the country must raise the bar dramatically on the quality of housing and ensure that tenants voices are . elon that tenants voices are. elon musk has reinstated donald trump's twitter account after putting the decision to a vote on the social media platform . on the social media platform. 51.8% of twitter users voted in an online poll that received more than 50 million votes. the former president was suspended in jan 2021 after a protest trump group attacked the us capitol . trump group attacked the us capitol. comes just days trump group attacked the us capitol . comes just days after capitol. comes just days after mr. trump announced his plans to run for president in 2024 after negotiating through the night an

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change to that . downing street change to that. downing street sources rejected the claims . new sources rejected the claims. new measures introduced today will give longer prison sentences to terrorists . they commit crimes terrorists. they commit crimes while behind bars. all offences , however minor, will automatically be referred for a police investigation and potential prosecution . the potential prosecution. the ministry of justice says this will increase the likelihood that terrorists in prison for longer and create bigger deterrence against further offending . and members of animal offending. and members of animal rebellion occupied. gordon ramsay's three michelin star restaurant last night. the climate activists mock menus outlining the environmental costs of items served at restaurant gordon ramsay chelsea. the group issued a statement saying their campaigning for a plant based food system . a spokesperson for food system. a spokesperson for the restaurant called the protest incredibly inappropriate and deeply disrespectful . this and deeply disrespectful. this is gb news will bring you more

as it happens. so let's get back to alastair stewart& friends . to alastair stewart& friends. ray thanks very much indeed. lots coming up on health and education in just a moment. i'm delighted. first of all, to be joined live in the studio to kick off today's programme with gb news political reporter olivia utley. and i asked you to do that for two reasons. if you're watching on television, you'll see this next bit. but if you're listening on radio , let you're listening on radio, let me just explain . in the sun me just explain. in the sun newspaper, the country's most read newspaper, there's john redwood, saying quotes the budget will cost us the next election. and in the sun telegraph, they have an interview . nadhim zahawi, the interview. nadhim zahawi, the chairman of the conservative party, who says, we want to cut tax before the election. that's way forward. i mean, you and i chatted after the autumn

statement and there were one or two who were sort of slightly optimistic. and then it went down, down, down this is bloodletting battle commencing. absolutely and basically, it feels as though the tory party is split into two factions. they we can't afford to cut taxes faction and we can't afford not to cut taxes faction. and in the first camp, you've got nadhim zahawi and jeremy hunt . what's zahawi and jeremy hunt. what's always saying that is that they want before the want to cut tax before the election, they don't have a election, but they don't have a hopein election, but they don't have a hope in hell of doing it before comes logic that comes down. their logic that there's a hole in public finances, that hole needs to be plugged. inflation finances, that hole needs to be pluggeand inflation finances, that hole needs to be pluggeand the inflation finances, that hole needs to be pluggeand the only inflation finances, that hole needs to be pluggeand the only irtontion finances, that hole needs to be pluggeand the only irto do1 finances, that hole needs to be pluggeand the only irto do is down, and the only way to do is to taxes . on the other to raise taxes. on the other side, you've got john redwood and who think like him, who and many who think like him, who think that clobbering people with high taxes is just going to push recession push us deeper into recession and push inflation up even more. and what says he's a nice and what says he's got a nice pithy quote here . we should pithy quote here. we should encourage people who want to invest in world of invest on in the world of business, save for the future harder acquire we harder and acquire skills. we not more they the not be taxing the more they the solution our economic , not solution to our economic, not the which i think sums

the problem which i think sums it up quite nicely. so basically, it's this rule that we had over summer. we we had over summer. can we afford taxes or can we afford to cut taxes or can we not afford to cut taxes not afford not to cut taxes essentially? they're going essentially? and they're going to have to find a solution to it long before the next election or any hope of that is totally over . other crucial fact it came . the other crucial fact it came out in the conversations i was having when we look having yesterday, when we look much economics the much more the economics of the autumn statement and today, as you well know, we're talking about education health , is about education and health, is that prospects on that if they prospects on inflation are even remotely realised , then interest rates realised, then interest rates could come down a bit sooner. and for middle england badly squeezed middle england , that squeezed middle england, that means potentially lower mortgages. that could be a game changer, but it too, in my humble, is a hell of a gamble. well absolutely. and it feels as though jeremy hunt has put everything on the home that we can get through this recession quickly with these tough measures imposed . and measures that he's imposed. and by time we get to the by the time we get round to the next election, which, let's remember, could be delayed

technically spring technically until spring 2025, so years left, the hope is so over years left, the hope is we be through this recession already coming out the other side. and middle england has seen their mortgages at this point up to five, 6. we'll point rise up to five, 6. we'll be very happy to see them come down to well, thank the down to 3. well, thank the tories. we'll vote for them in the as you say, it the election. but as you say, it feels like very big gamble feels like a very big gamble indeed. shall watch it with indeed. we shall watch it with great interest. livia, as always, thank always, a real pleasure. thank you much indeed. i hope you very much indeed. i hope you hang around get sent hang around and don't get sent off like yesterday. so off again like yesterday. so if anything else occurs, we can chat about that too. but for the time you very much time being. thank you very much indeed. you actually gb indeed. have you actually gb news report? now back news political report? now back to themes , a to our two main themes, a metaphorical bonfire of nhs and targets , plus a serious attempt targets, plus a serious attempt to make school leavers skilled up and ready to do well for themselves and for us may not be a revolution, but in my humble opinion it's a start. in addition to the autumn statements , standouts on the statements, standouts on the economy, which olivia i were just discussing, in which we discussed at length yesterday

taxation growth inflation, both education and health got the green light for reform as . most green light for reform as. most government departments were told they were cuts coming down the road . there was more money for road. there was more money for schools . but with that tweak on schools. but with that tweak on what the government wants them to do a fresh focus skills as well as the basic three r's. also there extra money for the nhs, but again with the chancellor saying he wanted a big effort made on efficiency. well, the health secretary himself, steve barclay, has gone even further today both in the mail on sunday newspaper and on television earlier. so today , television earlier. so today, focusing on both state schools in england get an extra focusing on both state schools in england get an extr a £23 in england get an extra £23 billion a year for the next two years. mr. hunt also said, and i quote, i have concerns that not all school leavers get the skills they need from modern economy. oddly there was no extra cash for sixth form colleges or further education, where many young people actually

get those extra skills beyond reading, writing and, arithmetic. but that said, the chancellor has asked former labour adviser sir michael to help get english up to the highest levels in basics and extra skills. the uk, mr. hunt said, had risen nine places in the global tables for maths and reading since 2015, but it needed to do even better . our needed to do even better. our current education secretary , he current education secretary, he said, left school at 16 to become an apprentice , knows become an apprentice, knows first hand why good schools matter. so the right woman in charge, you might say. there are many important initiatives in place , he said. but i want to place, he said. but i want to know the answer to one simple question. will every young person leaving the education system have skills that they get in japan, germany or switzerland? we'll be talking about that very shortly on health, mr. hunt said. we want scandinavian quality and singaporean efficiency . as he

singaporean efficiency. as he demanded the nhs tightens its belt and he found another demanded the nhs tightens its belt and he found anothe r £6 belt and he found another £6 billion over the next two years. efficiency savings, he said, won't be enough to deliver services that we all need or . services that we all need or. cut the waiting list. so on both fronts , radical change in the fronts, radical change in the offing . if it can be delivered offing. if it can be delivered in return for your hard earned money, i've a great line up of guests on both subjects. we'll come to the nhs a little later , come to the nhs a little later, i said. but i really also want hear what you think on both subjects . do you believe that subjects. do you believe that the schools have the wherewithal and the ambition to scale up our children, as well as make sure they have the basic three r's? and how would you make the nhs more efficient, particularly if you're a front frontline nhs worker or have recently been to a gp or been in—house spittal? we'll do the nhs after education but send our thoughts. we'll do the nhs after education but send our thoughts . your but send our thoughts. your thoughts in on both and. i'll share the best. it's as always . share the best. it's as always. gb news. gb news dot uk. you can tweet at gb news or you can

tweet at gb news or you can tweet me direct or you can go on facebook facebook . now. my first facebook facebook. now. my first guest is baroness nicky morgan , guest is baroness nicky morgan, who's former conservative member of parliament and secretary of state for education. nicky is also a former secretary of state for digital culture and sport and the digital bit, i think, may well be especially useful in this context . nicky, great to this context. nicky, great to see you. the backdrop to all of this is, of course, the pandemic and lockdown with many schools , and lockdown with many schools, indeed pupils still struggling with catch up, even with what's before, it's still well short of what the catch up tsar sir kevin collins said was needed. 15 billion and he quit when it didn't arrive. is this enough money to make any difference ? money to make any difference? well, good afternoon. yes, i think it is. i think the fact that rishi sunak's, jeremy hunt , as you've said, asked to prioritise both health and education, particularly schools, obviously in what was a very

tight economic situation, a difficult autumn statement should be a great encouragement. i think it's an important statement about the importance of education and skills. we haven't really had enough of that. i don't think , from the that. i don't think, from the government overall on several reasons. thanks to the pandemic . but of course it's a it's a big amount of money going to restore the per pupil funding to 2010 levels which what rishi sunak said he wanted to do. but i think the heart of your question is how is that money going to be spent? and i think obviously the big demand is going making sure that going to be making sure that schools got wage pressures like everybody they've got everybody else. they've got increased bills increased energy bills. so i think you know , the think probably, you know, the teachers and down the teachers up and down the country, teachers country, head teachers of governors, thinking , governors, will be thinking, i've got this money. how do i make that, yes, i can pay make sure that, yes, i can pay my bills, but also that actually the into the right the money is into into the right places , really equip our young places, really equip our young people . so me, a 21st century as people. so me, a 21st century as a former education secretary and, you and i have talked about this. we did a brilliant q&a session at surbiton school some

little while ago as a point of principle , do you think it is principle, do you think it is right that schools looking after young folk to the age of 16 should be thinking technical skills, financial and your old stomping ground of digital skills? when roughly one in five kids still leave secondary school unable to read or write ? school unable to read or write? i do because the thing that schools do brilliantly but it's always a struggle is trying to find what's going to unlock the of a young person to learn to take on board they are doing in school and think about the future now one of things i prioritise as well when i was education secretary was careers education secretary was careers education and inspiration and we've seen that's not just the secondary schools that can happening very effectively in primary as well. we want to see more of that. so i mean, all of those skills now, we have seen obviously improvement in reading and and those basic and writing and those basic

skills, but it is funny, i always remember going to visit think it was rolls royce met a group of young secondary school email and it wasn't until they'd gone to the company and they seen what people in the company and they now i understand the maths that i'm being asked to do in schools. think putting this in schools. think putting this in context is really important. digital skills vital for the 21st century. that confidence digital we've all had to get more used to digital over the last few years . it's going to be last few years. it's going to be absolutely critical both for pupils but also for teachers to feel really confident in this new working environment to get . new working environment to get. it seems to me the final point . it seems to me the final point. and going to ask of and then i'm going to ask of a general overall about the autumn statement. but it seems to me at the heart of all. and do you know i sally—ann, i've got four children. and is that your mum? well. ambition. it's well. it's about ambition. it's about what? what? one of my later guests , david hakin, who later guests, david hakin, who runs 8 billion ideas, is going to say about we all have that potential within us. this about

unleashing it about time to nicky . i entirely agree and i as nicky. i entirely agree and i as i said, one of the things is that, you know, in 2020 ten when we came in, hopefully you my parents education secretary, i mean, think is mean, i think education is a opportunity for the country , the opportunity for the country, the pupils, for the conservative government to talk about, you know, we get education. it absolutely unleashes the talent that we have in this country to help us to be successful, productive and world leading in so many different sectors. and you're absolutely right about thatis you're absolutely right about that is about lighting flame within somebody , about learning within somebody, about learning for the rest of life , being for the rest of life, being cunous.l for the rest of life, being curious. i want to talk a for the rest of life, being curious . i want to talk a little curious. i want to talk a little about character education. schools are phenomenally important and i hope, you know, despite them, as i say, continue squeezing on budget. i hope that this statement jeremy in this statement from jeremy in the statement makes it the autumn statement makes it clear how important they clear just how important they think skills and education are. and richard soon has talked about the importance of education. going

education. i think we're going to lot more in this to hear a lot more in this space.i to hear a lot more in this space. i hope so. i genuinely do. question you're not do. final question you're not standing in loughborough, but you're house of lords you're now in the house of lords but still an active tory. but you're still an active tory. how despondent, were you that autumn statement in terms of its lack of ambition heading into two years of recession and no growth until the other side of the next general election? did you, nicky morgan, feel like giving up and walking away from it ? absolutely not. and i wasn't it? absolutely not. and i wasn't i was relieved that actually hung. i wish i could get a grip on the economy. and i'm afraid colleagues think that this is an election losing order statement , that they need to look at the mini budget because that really was election losing. and i think i'm delighted we've got a chancellor in the prime minister grouping this. people look at the last paragraph of office for budget responsibility report and this the is this talks about the uk is facing its global shock in facing its third global shock in just over a decade so yes of course there are issues the uk but we are facing the inflation

caused by pandemic energy crisis about by the invasion of ukraine we have a difficult period ahead of us , but i think we've got of us, but i think we've got a sensible plan for tackling it. and so i think from my conversations on on now and in the past , actually what people the past, actually what people want to see is an honesty at the top about what the challenges are. and i think we saw that on thursday. nicky, a real pleasure to talk you. thank you so much for us into busy for fitting us into your busy sunday afternoon . keep in touch. sunday afternoon. keep in touch. you're time on the you're welcome. any time on the programme as you well know thank you baroness. nicky there the former conservative member of parliament and secretary of for education, digital sports and the rest of it . my next guest the rest of it. my next guest i referred to in that conversation with nicky morgan, he's a very good friend of mine . he is what good friend of mine. he is what i would call a been there and doneit i would call a been there and done it guy formula formerly a senior ibm man , he created senior ibm man, he created 8 billion ideas in the belief we all have some entrepreneur ownership in us and the other hidden talents just waiting to get out , make the world a better

get out, make the world a better place for ourselves and for our fellow citizens . for some time fellow citizens. for some time now, he's been taking that pitch into schools and has an educational and experience platform for 10 to 14 year olds. after receiving the largest edtech seed investment in the world for 2021. david hopkin a very warm welcome , and it's very warm welcome, and it's great to see you again . as great to see you again. as i said, you and your people been doing this in schools both , doing this in schools both, state schools and private schools for some time now . when schools for some time now. when you heard , the chancellor of the you heard, the chancellor of the exchequer, say what he about skills , did you blow the roof skills, did you blow the roof off with a loud hurrah ? good. off with a loud hurrah? good. good afternoon . of celebrities good afternoon. of celebrities to speak to again and yet i mean, the skills agenda the skills topic has been talked about for four decades now. and in my humble belief, i've been very to work across the sector with our academies, our in dependence schools, internationals, grant schools grammar schools, colleges, young offenders units . and i come back

offenders units. and i come back to the same conclusion every single that single single time is that every single child ever met has an child that i've ever met has an amazing imagination. but every child is on a different journey with the amount of skill and indeed belief that they might so, yet we're talking about it which which is . but what's which which is. but what's actually to happen is what actually going to happen is what i'm more interested in. we're talking a lot about secondary school education, about supporting space, is supporting that space, which is perfectly fine. but perfectly right and fine. but really whole skills needs to really the whole skills needs to start the early years all start from the early years all the way up and. so when a child leaves school often leave this topic false . you late. and if topic false. you late. and if i take the topic of entrepreneurship, which is a big, big, big and passion of mine something which i see mine and something which i see in school, you know, in every school, you know, there's no of government which isn't doing something in this space, and space, but it's got to be and it's got to about three, four, five year olds and getting them really excited about their about their futures and teaching them . yeah. what lessons then can we learn from japan, germany and switzerland, who as the chancellor himself said are ahead of us. they're the we need

to aim for. what are they that we're not? i think we're doing a lot of good things. and it's interesting that those countries were and i think we can do occasionally we can misjudge what's actually happening in our schools, our staff because they're brilliantly busy places . so much stuff is going on in our across the uk we've got our all across the uk we've got nearly a million people working in sector and we're doing in the sector and we're doing some good stuff. some really good stuff. so of course can, can, we can course we can, we can, we can learn from from different nations, industries. nations, different industries. i think need here is an think what we need here is an evolution a revolution evolution or a revolution i think what we need is to actually go into kind of a penod actually go into kind of a period of accelerated incremental improvement, kind of have two types of change, transformational incremental. and certainly do not and we certainly do not transformational in transformational change in education in the united kingdom. we need accelerated change, but we've start young. and i we've got start young. and i think the kind of that the big mind chop moment or the big of real elephant in the room is yes okay. might be more okay. there might be some more money in the next money going in in the next couple of years, but we still

live in an asset, the uk, where we not have a clear long term we do not have a clear long term vision through education. and we've for we've been talking about it for a time and we're not clear a long time and we're not clear on it. we don't really know what will towards in the next ten, 20 years personally, i'd love to see much passionate led see a much more passionate led education so we're education system so we're talking careers. but my talking about careers. but if my children i'm of three children i'm a dad of three boys, toby , harry and ben, six, boys, toby, harry and ben, six, four and six months when those boys them to boys school, i want them to answer one question now. i would love them to be answer what are you passionate , toby? what are you passionate, toby? what are you passionate, toby? what are you passionate, toby? what are you passionate about then? what you're passionate about? harry can tell three, four, five, can you tell three, four, five, six because six different things? because if you you're passionate you know what you're passionate about, help you about, it's going to help you make or you make decisions or whatever you with career it's a long with your career and it's a long career, right? we're going to be doing lots of different. we've seen self—employment doing lots of different. we've seen you self—employment doing lots of different. we've seen you pigeonholeoyment sometimes you pigeonhole children too young. so children far too young. so i back accelerating movement to improvements just remind ourselves we need an evolution not a revolution and. i think yes we need to talk about skills, but we also need to make making sure children are clear on they are. passion

on what they are. passion i totally agree with you on the passion. final point your passion. my final point is your book, ripple effect , which book, the ripple effect, which i've reviewed , is i've read and reviewed, is superb . and i was just struck superb. and i was just struck writing the notes about this conversation last night, whether he knew it or not, it is just possible , though, that jeremy possible, though, that jeremy hunt has dropped something into the pond that if it's embraced by teachers, school leaders, parents and children could have a ripple effect and really change everything . absolutely. change everything. absolutely. yeah. i'm a big believer in the ripple effects , the pebble. and ripple effects, the pebble. and we have two choices every day to make positive or negative ripples. and yes, people going to look at this and go, we need more money, we need more money, we more money, we need more money, we need more of this. but there is some coming make is some coming in. let's make sure spending the best sure we're spending the best possible way that can keep possible way that we can keep our 3 our teachers these these 3 million day million people, every day serving students across the serving our students across the united kingdom create memorable moments us see as moments and let us see it as a positive in the right positive step in the right direction. but we've got direction. but please, we've got to can't keep to start young. we can't keep asking a lot of magic to asking a lot of magic ones to reach our schools and reach out to our schools and help turn around that career

aspirations. teaching, entrepreneurship, the entrepreneurship, skills, the force needs to force you like it needs to happen we need be happen and we need to be supporting early years and year one and two as soon as we possibly. david, great to see you. to the family. have a you. love to the family. have a great and thanks for great weekend and thanks for breaking it for us. david breaking into it for us. david hockney found of hockney found and ceo of 8 billion ideas sitting next to me is another very friend of is another very good friend of mine listening intently to mine and listening intently to it what we see go academic tv it is what we see go academic tv star open university lecturer this that and the other. but more importantly before all of that an investment banker. do you agree with david hawking that this really could a ripple thing that whether he knows it or not, the chancellor's done something here that could change everything. it's again, it's for the uk to prosper in the 21st century. we a very skilled workforce, motivated . those are workforce, motivated. those are passions . and again as a teacher passions. and again as a teacher i would say that education is the most important thing. and i think even rishi sunak recently said he thinks that education is the silver bullet for public

policy to lead britain to a more prosperous future. so we look after our young people from again right from david saying from three or four or five, all the through to 18. then actually we creating the workforce that can britain world leader can make britain a world leader is there feels like is already there feels like you know and music and know arts and music and literature england uk is literature where england uk is lauded as a world leader. i think the science, technology, maths, entrepreneurship, these also fields that we need to, but it's also crucially, it's also applicability because i mentioned your open university , mentioned your open university, which for young adults about which is for young adults about mathematics , not just how to do mathematics, not just how to do diy by design equals the answer, but how apply it. whether you're an engineer . but how apply it. whether you're an engineer. nicky morgan talked about rolls—royce engineers or whether you're in the city doing forward pricing completely , and forward pricing completely, and i think that's one of the most important parts of education. how relevant is it to your future prospects ? again, as an future prospects? again, as an academic, i enjoy the beauty of calculus and looking at pythagoras there, you know, out of it all day. but i know that for vast majority of people, they're not going to use

calculus on a day day basis. calculus on a day to day basis. but they do need to understand the so they can the concepts of math so they can apply they a apply where they in a supermarket, in supermarket, where they work in a business, they work in a business, where they work in media and the application of knowledge, which to be knowledge, which is going to be crucial. let's be realistic about because about this as well, because travel lecturing, travel the world, lecturing, talking performing talking to people and performing on can really be as on television can really be as good as japan as singapore and as germany . it's an aspiration . as germany. it's an aspiration. things that means. no, not. yeah, well , i things that means. no, not. yeah, well, i think there's a there's a way to go. i think a different like if you look at places like china and japan they come to britain to see how so good creatively that's the one thing in ours in our quest to be brilliant, the sciences, technology, entrepreneurship, mathematics. ignore mathematics. we mustn't ignore our you know, produce our you know, we produce wonderful writers are broadcast and media industries are leading so we can combine with having a workforce that is able to apply their and science i think then we've got a force that's very important, brilliant. final one andifs important, brilliant. final one and it's a quick one. i mentioned you were in the city

before a banker and you were a chartered accountant. what do you share nicky morgan's optimism that the autumn statement may hurt a bit, but it's what has to happen for the uk at the moment. think the one thing i'll say is the markets tookit thing i'll say is the markets took it quite well and often the markets well. it markets take it quite well. it means actually they see a better long term future, but reality sometimes what the markets like individual don't like individual households don't like individual households don't like in term so i think it in the short term so i think it is british short term pain is a british short term pain that policy households that uk policy and households need hopefully need to take. but hopefully it'll mean two, three, five years down the line. we will see a positive outlook , but we a more positive outlook, but we will our fingers crossed on will keep our fingers crossed on that, i think. bobby siegel, a genuinely pleasure to see you. thanks as well. thanks for coming in as well. always joining our always and joining our conversation, siegel there conversation, bobby siegel there and before and and david hawking before him and nicky at top of it. i nicky morgan at the top of it. i hope you all of that as fascinating did, fascinating as genuinely did, but all to hear what you but all love to hear what you think. your emails or think. send your emails and or tweet you're watching and listening stewart& listening alastair stewart& friends with lots more coming up on program the world cup on today's program the world cup in off today . first in qatar kicks off today. first time the tournament has taken

place in the middle east. our reporter paul hawkins there . reporter paul hawkins is there. ahead of the first game. we'll catching up with him. but let's bnng catching up with him. but let's bring you up to date with the weather here looking ahead to this afternoon the uk will be particularly in the west, scattered and blustery showers , scattered and blustery showers, spreading eastwards. here are the details as this morning's rain and cloud will continue to affect the far north—east of scotland, where we'll also be rather windy, a mixture of , rather windy, a mixture of, sunny spells and blustery showers this afternoon, a mixture of sunny spells and scattered, blustery will continue across northern ireland. however, these showers become lighter in nature . a band become lighter in nature. a band of heavy showers will affect northern england . these showers northern england. these showers maybe thundery hay over western coasts. they'll also be sunny spells for north wales this afternoon. they'll be a continuation of showers . also continuation of showers. also sunny spells to showers will be less frequent than this morning and will also lighter in nature. breezy well, a band of showers

will move through across the east midlands this afternoon and these may be heavy at times to. there will be more sunny , too, there will be more sunny, too, and showers will ease later on. it'll be a mostly dry and fine afternoon for east anglia with sunny spells. however, that may the odd shower in the west of the odd shower in the west of the region later on across the south of england, there'll be a mixture of sunshine showers. these showers will become frequent and lighter from the west when the full coastal regions turning drier and clearer for time early tonight before a wet and windy weather arrives in the west later . arrives in the west later. that's how the weather is shaping up for the of the day .

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the us five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at a gay nightclub in colorado springs , according to colorado springs, according to a statement on the facebook page, a number of heroic customers were able to subdue the male shooter. they're describing it as a hate attack. police officials say a suspect is in custody and receiving treatment for their injuries. custody and receiving treatment for their injuries . the fifa for their injuries. the fifa world cup kicks off in qatar today. world cup kicks off in qatar today . first time the event has today. first time the event has been held , the middle east. the been held, the middle east. the opening match will see the home side take on ecuador with fifa hoping . the focus will now turn hoping. the focus will now turn away from complete points over the arab nations. human rights record. players from nine countries, including england captain harry kane planned to wear a one love armband showing support for lgbtq people . the support for lgbtq people. the housing has written to every engush housing has written to every english council leader and social provider, warning that deaths like that of awaab ishak must happen again. the two year old died as a result of

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channel. back now to . channel. back now to. alastair tournaments taking in the middle east, the first matches between the host country qatar and. ecuadon the host country qatar and. ecuador. england kick off their world cup tomorrow versus iran and. wales will be taking on the united states of america . well, united states of america. well, we're across all of it. both the royals and the debates that are going on as well as the football . and our reporter paul hawkins there for us. we can cross live to him now. paul yeah. hi. as they join us then the souk souk to keep the market in doha . and to keep the market in doha. and actually in the last few minutes those are tunisian fans in full

voice behind us in the seat and the gathering a lot of attention. so when you talk what this world cup is going to be like, i think it's all about being a more conservative country. maybe now in a bit they're not having any the they're not having any of the tunisian fans and they join quite a crowd, as you can see. in fact, we're just getting pushed along here a little. i should add, tunisia as well, they've been playing. right they've been playing. all right for voice . anyway that's the for voice. anyway that's the tunisia fans for you. we just might not they might not be able to sit around this way. this is a quiet crowd, this gathered here. but along this part of the souk, there are people coming backwards and forwards the time throughout wearing throughout the day wearing different over different football shirts over here mexico fans over here. been some mexico fans over here. been some mexico fans over here they're enjoying here. they're just enjoying their another their meal. there's another mexican the corner over mexican fan in the corner over there. this is usa fans over here and over there. and this is this some welsh fans, spanish fans. there's people all over

the world here and they're just getting on with the tournament really they know the issues that surround it, but they're getting with the football. of course england play iran tomorrow wales the we were the usa. earlier we were speaking fans on speaking to some england fans on the cornish that's kind of about the cornish that's kind of about the from the sea in doha. the river from the sea in doha. this is the last test. totally amazing . we're really pleased amazing. we're really pleased with where we are . yes. we're with where we are. yes. we're a bit far out, but accommodation couldn't be better . bit far out, but accommodation couldn't be better. friendliness just no beer. that's fine just got to have it as it is. yeah that custom, that country . go that custom, that country. go with it. we're for football. nothing for not for politics or anything else, for football. come on, england . i think just come on, england. i think just songs we. we don't think we're going to breeze through and, you know, these are england's past form. there hasn't that good but you know, it's a different time if we pick if we pick up a day on it should be a good game when we should be okay of other fans from other areas mexico, ecuadon from other areas mexico, ecuador, poland , name it. it's ecuador, poland, name it. it's one big party. typical england.

they don't they've always wanted it before they've kicked the ball. i'm a massive , massive ball. i'm a massive, massive display . oh oh, they guys that's display. oh oh, they guys that's what some england fans told us earlier today. of course , earlier today. of course, england play around is going to be interesting to see out there as well the iranian team and how celebrate as well because iranian football because of the issues in the country has been played behind closed doors and a lot of the players when they score don't celebrate. they either point to the sky or they go to as a gesture of solidarity. they cut their hair in solidarity with the women in iran. so whether they iran. so seeing whether they sing national anthem, will sing the national anthem, will they goals? it's they celebrate their goals? it's going interesting going to be interesting that subplot tomorrow's game subplot to tomorrow's game against england. and of course, you've england national you've got the england national team playing and wales are taking and the taking on the usa and the frankly it's their first world cup since 1958. they don't where the world cup is, they're just happy here and. stop, happy to be here and. stop, paul happy to be here and. stop, paul, i'm glad you're there. as

thank you for not only giving us the facts and figures, but also capturing so brilliantly the atmosphere there in the souk and out and about on the streets. we'll keep in touch with you. thank you very being our reporter, paul hawkins , who is reporter, paul hawkins, who is as you just saw live in qatar for us covering the entirety of the world cup. it's 12:39 or 21 minutes to one with plenty more. still to come this afternoon with the health secretary, steve barclay , today that the nhs is barclay, today that the nhs is under huge pressure and some targets are to be scaled back. what does it actually mean for our ascent in services your nhs and my nhs will the additional funding pledged in that budget bndge funding pledged in that budget bridge the gap? the first? let's take a quick break.

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listening to alastair stewart& friends here on gb news tv and radio. and you have indeed been getting in touch on our big topic of the day, autumn statement and other issues . what statement and other issues. what would you have liked to have seen in that autumn statement and what do make of our discussions today? john begins the conversation and says it would be a start every time that funding was increased they showed a breakdown on just how it was being and mike says as a concern the voter who supported the for party some 50 years i and my family have had enough. we have illegal immigrants continuing to be allowed into the uk . we see hard earned tax the uk. we see hard earned tax money being wasted, utility failing health and education under stress and politicians just removed from reality . the just removed from reality. the conservative party, he says , are conservative party, he says, are finished. well then we go food for thought, bearing in mind what olivia utley was saying at the very top of our programme. keep those views coming and we'll some more of and do we'll share some more of and do subscribe to our youtube as well

where you can catch up interviews i've already done or previous programmes that we've done. we are at gb news, so let's get back now to the autumn statement of that extra cash specifically for the nhs . and specifically for the nhs. and the call for official , the the call for official, the chancellor said quotes we want scandinavian quality . a scandinavian quality. a singaporean official and see. he admitted the deficiencies of his won't be savings, won't be enough. deliver the services that we all need but nevertheless gave it an extra that we all need but nevertheless gave it an extr a £6 nevertheless gave it an extra £6 billion over the next two years. there's also more money for the nhs in scotland of course is devolved and in ireland and a bit for social. although that big reform on the cap of care costs is again show for the time being. now in saying that the nhs had already been increased record levels to deal with pandemic, he added that he wanted a fresh focus on tackling and inefficiency to help in the health secretary steve barclay

and the health secretary steve barclay. in that ambition. he confirmed that patricia hewitt , confirmed that patricia hewitt, former labour health secretary , former labour health secretary, would assist with the review of nhs operations. ms. hewitt is also interestingly a former director of bupa . so let us look director of bupa. so let us look at efficiencies , nhs, a costly at efficiencies, nhs, a costly pubuc at efficiencies, nhs, a costly public service that some see as almost religion beyond criticism. i am delighted to be joined by dr. andrew vallance , a joined by dr. andrew vallance, a good friend of mine for many , a good friend of mine for many, a former nhs surgeon himself and also a former chief medical officer at bupa. it's a bit like in the sense that the existing problems are huge and the extra money that comes with attachments may not be enough because before he stood up the nhs was already on a crisis footing to the independent health foundation and says that temporary respite may be achieved by this money. but even big efficiencies are not going get the nhs through . as it get the nhs through. as it

stands , yeah , and i think that's stands, yeah, and i think that's absolutely and the first thing i'd say is , are we absolutely i'd say is, are we absolutely sure that this new money will actually get the sharp end. delivery has been a real problem in terms of you know the things that the government says are happening in the nhs and they pull out nice sums of money but do does this money to the shop at the coalface where the doctors and the nurses the physiotherapists doing their work 24 hours a day . you know work 24 hours a day. you know that's that's part of the problem i think the money is not getting through really where it matters and the pay issues that are coming up from nurses. i mean the first time ever i think was there for many many years . was there for many many years. the royal college of nursing has called nurses out on strike . called nurses out on strike. that poor pay, especially community nurses in the care sector , has got to be tackled . sector, has got to be tackled. and that's where i think that money, first of all, needs go

because we have such a small such big reduction in the number of nurses in the nhs, in the number of care staff in the, in the care sector, people left and they're not coming back . little they're not coming back. little is paying better prices for their , their service, their their, their service, their health than we are paying some of those staff . we've talked of those staff. we've talked about that before in the past and it is a staggering situation . unless that is sorted out, then you won't recruit the numbers to bring it up to standard. but let's focus, if we can, on on what steve barclay says in the mail on sunday today and also said on television a little earlier and cut to the he says as many gb news viewers and listeners have said is that if you stripped out some of the middle management and they get good pay , perhaps unlike the good pay, perhaps unlike the nurses strip some of that out , nurses strip some of that out, get rid of targets which are really just, oh, here's another target that we appear to have missed yet again that that make a profound difference . do you

a profound difference. do you agree with him ? yeah, i think agree with him? yeah, i think that the people i speak to in in the nhs and my wife's nurse midwife has got a lot of friends still working in the nhs say that there is a huge bureaucracy in that middle. that there is a huge bureaucracy in that middle . there is too in that middle. there is too many layers management trying to get things done is like trying to swim, treacle and again, you know, the decisions that really there isn't proper accountability . i often say to accountability. i often say to nurses and clinical directors you know before your if you're told something on the phone or in a meeting don't do it unless you've got a written requirement to do it from manager because they need to have greater accountability for what's on and much more work on delivering as i've said before to the nurses and doctors and people who actually deliver service and that's where the problem is and we haven't got enough of them now. absolutely. and one of my big worries and let's let's

finish on this if we may because it echoes what wife is picking up on what you've picked up as well is and michael portillo said it me earlier this you said it to me earlier this you know, here we go again talking talk but not walking the walk. why they terrified of why are they so terrified of charges? prime minister charges? the prime minister himself there'd be a £10 himself said there'd be a £10 penalty if you failed to . show penalty if you failed to. show up a gp appointment that up for a gp appointment that many shouted him down. he pulled back bit and this tory back a bit and this tory government with an 80 seat majority terrified about majority is terrified about giving tax relief . people and giving tax relief. people and companies that employ them who say ? i'll tell you what, i'm say? i'll tell you what, i'm going to look after myself. going to take out private insurance where. you used to work and we're here. used to work. why are they so terrified of changes like that of radical changes like that really a difference ? really could make a difference? well, they shouldn't be . well, they really shouldn't be. people who take out private , people who take out private, private insurance and that sort of thing are helping the nhs by taking load off the nhs and more and more people are doing it, although that's part of it. of course the waiting times are up, but the but i think the idea of a penalty, the thought of how

earth be run and the earth that would be run and the administration calls for it, but we know that in france particularly they have a co—payment , general co—payment co—payment, general co—payment for people who want to go and see their general practitioner, which like prescription charges is not applied . people who are is not applied. people who are chronically ill and have certain conditions and, that would be an easy thing to administer. i think that would have to pay easy thing to administer. i think that would have to pa y £20 think that would have to pay £20 or something like that before going to a gp. so make them at least think twice before . they least think twice before. they go, you know, if , if they really go, you know, if, if they really need to go . i know the need to go. i know the counterargument is that people say, oh well people won't to go because it's going to be an extra. but i do think we have to think in those sorts of terms that it's there. i think that is absolutely right. well, let's hope steve barclay and pat hewitt look at those alternative systems as well . for the time systems as well. for the time being, you for as always being, thank you for as always shedding your expert light on these matters and in these matters and you keep in touch us. best to both of touch with us. best to both of you. weekend. you. have a lovely weekend. thank very much. thanks,

thank you very much. thanks, doctor the former nhs doctor valentine, the former nhs surgeon and also former chief medical officer at bupa sticking with the chancellor's autumn statement. now within , jeremy statement. now within, jeremy hunt announced a range of tax that will affect the farming , that will affect the farming, while the changes will most businesses those income tax changes the effects be fairly moderate according to advisers from the farming well advisers , from the farming well advisers, one wonders to discuss all of that and what it means for the industry. i'm delighted to be joined by an old friend of the program, andrew ward, also known as wheat daddy . good to see you as wheat daddy. good to see you and always good to see your john deere there in deere sitting there in background, utterly background, looking utterly magnificent the seem to magnificent. the nephews seem to be most about changes , capital be most about changes, capital gains tax and, business rates. but as someone actually at the front end doing , what are your front end doing, what are your concerns? andrew well those are concerns, yes, but they're as big a concern. we've got regarding inflation because the inflation figure at minute on

agriculture is running at about 35. and so it's also producing food with having to do with all those input costs is a massive thing. and i mean, when you look at the autumn statement as well and i think really you ought to be calling it a lockdown statement now, really, that's what we're doing. we're now actually having to pay back everything that happened with we were told to, eat out to help out. well, that might as well have been termed eat eat out to help out. but we're going to want it back interest later. furlough so all that sort of thing as well, where people were paid as well in agriculture here , we kept working. we kept doing everything . food, after everything. food, looking after the environment , looking after the environment, looking after nature. and now we're being penalised for it. it's a fascinate eating analysis there. and don't forget , was the and don't forget, was the chancellor, the exchequer during all of that as well, the chap who is now the prime minister. but do you accept something that my friend bobby said the my friend bobby siegel said the programme earlier because you

mentioned that mentioned inflation in that analysis and he said if these measures do to bring inflation down , then we'll all benefit. down, then we'll all benefit. and sometimes what the treasury doesis and sometimes what the treasury does is not what you i want done, but it is the right thing to do is inflation real bete noire for you as a farmer , me as noire for you as a farmer, me as a consumer . absolutely. alice to a consumer. absolutely. alice to for me is the number thing that is really hitting hard coupled with with the war in ukraine. and of course that's where a lot of fertiliser comes from in out there a lot of fertiliser it has come from those countries in the past and our fertiliser costs have risen 300% in the last two or three years. and fuel as well, red diesel that we use this tractor behind me here , red this tractor behind me here, red diesel has risen 200. so we are facing huge inflation figures . facing huge inflation figures. and yes, the uk as a whole inflation figures of what are they, 12 or 13, but with our inflation figures of triple producing food looking after the

environment, we need to remember ralitsa that looking after the environment protecting nature, everything that everybody sees when they drive around the countryside. it doesn't come . it countryside. it doesn't come. it doesn't just happen. and it costs a lot of money to do that. and i think we also need to look here and mention the brexit word and voted to remain. but think brexit is really hitting hard now because i a got a local sugar beet haulage or sugar beet contract or rather lifts our sugan he contract or rather lifts our sugar. he had a hydraulic pump go and he ordered another one and he was quoted a 46 week delivery from from europe. and i think it's all these things now that's just hitting hard. and it's not just the inflation, but it's not just the inflation, but it's brexit. it's everything to do with the cost of living and running the country and actually living in the uk, which at one time a day it was a glorious thing to do, but now you just wonder whether when you look at other countries around the world, is the uk, the country that it used be? i didn't interrupt for a moment. fascinate ageing analysis there.

as always . that's why we asked as always. that's why we asked you on andrew . because we get it you on andrew. because we get it then. not from some lobbying organisation but from the front line. great to talk to you and for sharing your magnificent attractor behind you. that just lovely . thank you. alistair, you lovely. thank you. alistair, you take care of yourself, andrew. and luck on the farm. and good luck on the farm. arable farmer there , andrew ward arable farmer there, andrew ward wheatley and look forward to having on the programme again very soon. taking us to the top of the hour. this is a brilliant pre—christmas story. a recent study by a family so found that over half the united kingdom were worried that their grandparent will feel lonely dunng.l grandparent will feel lonely during . i speak as a grandparent during. i speak as a grandparent , just you may or may not know if you follow me and on social media familiar is an app a thing you have on your phone and it's france by storm it young family members to upload photos and messages which are then compiled into personalised newspaper for the grandparents and posted its mission is of i quote to bring

joy mission is of i quote to bring joy to gran parents. well joining me now to discuss it .is nadine calcutt , who is the head nadine calcutt, who is the head of communications at familia. and there you are. i hope i've given a reasonable appraisal of what actually does, but you actually live in france , where actually live in france, where it is literally huge . it is. ed it is literally huge. it is. ed alastair, thank you. thank you for having us. yes. to explain wonderfully how it works in france. yes, it's quite well here. it did . france by storm. here. it did. france by storm. we have over 200,000 families using familia to connect with their grandparents and that's over a million members. i think know alone in the program about scaling up our young people. is it particularly techie i mean eveni it particularly techie i mean even ican it particularly techie i mean even i can download app that says piece of novel but when you're talking about compiling a family, this is what the little ones have been up. this is what the garden looks like at the moment, just to be very techie,

to able do now . not at to be able do it now. not at all. we've tried to take everyone and anyone who uses the internet that's children internet whether that's children or as or grandchildren, making it as intuitive as as it can be for people who do use the internet . people who do use the internet. so it's incredibly simple. it's much the sort of social messaging apps. no doubt many families watching this use already . i think there's a video already. i think there's a video showing right now shows it really is very simple, very well . there was indeed. and now somebody's thumbing through a book. somebody's thumbing through a book . the other thing that book. the other thing that struck me about it is that particularly a lot of our american and friends send christmas cards that are absolutely stock a block with pictures of what the little ones are up to this, that and the other. i mean this is a 21st century version of it. you you've launched now the uk, i think it was in august. how has it gone ? has it got momentum yet it gone? has it got momentum yet 7 it gone? has it got momentum yet ? yes, i it's picking up. we already had some using it just from word of mouth from over the channel and so far, the reception has been wonderful.

people really love it. i think the u.k. already spoke about america, but the u.k. as well has culture of sending cards as a way of . it's cool. it's a show a way of. it's cool. it's a show of and it's got a sentimental value. it's a really post something. and so i'm hoping to bnng something. and so i'm hoping to bring a lot of to u.k. grandparents , as many as french grandparents, as many as french grandparents, as many as french grandparents . well, i'm sure you grandparents. well, i'm sure you will. and thank you for sharing that. and just to remind folks at home, if they're interested in it's familia, go online and you can find it and even more about it than my conversation with nadine. but i hope that was helpful. nadine, great to meet you.keepin helpful. nadine, great to meet you. keep in touch and thank you very, very much. nadine coyle thank , you very much. thank, you very much. communications and the amelia app communications and the amelia app . it's just inching towards app. it's just inching towards 1:00 and you're watching and listening to alastair stewart& friends with more coming up on the side 1:00, the the other side of 1:00, the former england goalkeeper peter shilton will back on the shilton will be back on the programme here this time . talk programme here this time. talk about the world cup which as you

may heard , kicks off a may have heard, kicks off a little later today. but first, a quick break .

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the day's news. here's ray anderson anderson . thanks, anderson anderson. thanks, alistair. good afternoon . up to alistair. good afternoon. up to 1:01. here's latest from the gb newsroom in the united states. five people have been killed , 18 five people have been killed, 18 injured in a shooting at gay nightclub in colorado springs , nightclub in colorado springs, according to a statement on club's facebook page. a number heroic customers were able subdue the male shooter . they're subdue the male shooter. they're describing it as a hate attack . describing it as a hate attack. police officials say a suspect is in custody and receiving treatment for their injuries . treatment for their injuries. the fifa world cup kicks off in qatar today , the first time the qatar today, the first time the event has been held in the middle east. the opening match will see the home side's take on with fifa, hoping action on the pitch will turn the spotlight away from complaints over the arab nations human rights record . england captain harry kane expected to wear his one love rainbow armband. it shows support for lgbtq people during

tomorrow's match against iran. in total, nine countries are said to be making the gesture. amnesty's navid told us she , amnesty's navid told us she, hopes the iranian players use platform to support women's rights. i very much hope that the players will do . and if the the players will do. and if the players are able to, because it's fair to say to them professional athletes, no exception to the regime's brutality against their own people. hope is that some opposition players so the england players may may do something in solidarity with women and girls in. well in the last hour or so comedian lycett has shredded tens pounds of his own money in protest at david beckham's role as an ambassador at the world cup. online footage shows the comic throwing to of notes into a shredder. mr. lysaght had an ultimatum to the former england footballer after

it was reported that he'd signed a deal with the tournament hosts worth up to £10 million. the comedian offered donate the money to lgbt kew plus charities. if mr. ended that sponsorship . homosexuality is sponsorship. homosexuality is still illegal in qatar and can be with up to seven years in prison . the housing secretary prison. the housing secretary has written to every english council leader and social housing provider warning that deaths like that of awaab ishak must never happen again . the two must never happen again. the two year old died as a result. prolonged exposure to mould living in social housing . the living in social housing. the chief executive of rochdale borough housing, gareth swarbrick , was sacked yesterday swarbrick, was sacked yesterday due to the handling of the issue . michael gove says the country must raise the bar dramatically on the quality of housing and ensure that tenants voices are heard . ellen has reinstated heard. ellen has reinstated donald trump's twitter accounts after putting the decision to a

vote on the social media platform . 51.8% of twitter users platform. 51.8% of twitter users voted yes in an online poll, which received more than 50 million votes. former president was suspended in january 20, 21 after a pro—trump attacked the us capitol comes just two days after mr. trump announced plans to run for president in 2024. well, after negotiations through the night , an well, after negotiations through the night, an agreement has now been reached. a cop27 to help poor countries deal with the impact of climate . the so—called impact of climate. the so—called los and damage fund will help developing bear the cost of disasters such as droughts and flooding. a decision on exactly which should pay into that fund has been left until cop28 next yeah has been left until cop28 next year. united nations chief antonio guterres the deal isn't good enough enough . i now invite good enough enough. i now invite the cop adopt the decision entitled chalmers implementation

plan contained in documents . but plan contained in documents. but we'll hear from him in just a moment. new measures introduced today will give longer prison sentence to terrorists if they commit crimes behind bars. all however minor will automatically be referred for a police investigation and. potential prosecution. the ministry justice says this will increase likelihood that terrorists stay in prison for longer and create bigger deterrence . future bigger deterrence. future offending. justice secretary dominic raab is describing it as a landmark agreement between the prison and parole service , prison and parole service, prosecution service and, counter—terrorism, policing ? counter—terrorism, policing? members of animal rebellion occupied gordon . three michelin occupied gordon. three michelin starred restaurant last night. the climate activists mock menus outlining environmental costs of items served at restaurant gordon ramsay in chelsea. the group issued statement saying they're campaigning for a plant based food system . a based food system. a spokesperson for the restaurant called the protest incredibly

and deeply disrespectful . you and deeply disrespectful. you watching tv news will bring you more as it happens. now let's get back to alastair stewart& friends . friends. right. thanks much, indeed. 6 minutes past the hour. more now on the autumn statement. we're moving on now away from education specifically and focusing on business and trade. the chancellor announced that the government's the chancellor announced that the government' s £13.6 billion the government's £13.6 billion of support for businesses over the five years with business rate multiply also being frozen in 2324. the office of budget responsibility says average disposable incomes, however, will fall . by 7.1% over the next will fall. by 7.1% over the next two years, which less money for businesses because there's less money there for you and me and everybody else to spend . we are

everybody else to spend. we are in a recession now and will remain in a recession next year with growth only just returning in 2425. so how that all impact on uk trade and britain's businesses? i am absolutely delighted to be joined by my dear friend lord digby jones, former cbi director general, international businessman and of course cross—bench, peer in the house of lords. trading easter under gordon brown before come to that when i knew we were doing education health at the beginning i remember a conversation you and i had years ago where you one of the biggest single problems for british industry is the number young people leaving school who still can't read or and here we are talking about spending a lot of money in our schools to skill them up. is this possibly and i want you to be optimistic killing two birds with one stone. yeah. good afternoon , i stone. yeah. good afternoon, i assume. good afternoon, everyone. i i think it could be . as you know, i'm passionate

about getting. getting young people into the world of work. and they can't do that if they can't read, write and count and it has been getting better the last the last few years, without doubt. last the last few years, without doubt . but last the last few years, without doubt. but it's last the last few years, without doubt . but it's still last the last few years, without doubt. but it's still very last the last few years, without doubt . but it's still very poor, doubt. but it's still very poor, by the way . it's very poor in by the way. it's very poor in america, germany and france . you america, germany and france. you believe it's a western , believe it's a western, democratic, capitalistic issue . democratic, capitalistic issue. and that is that, too many people can't read writing , can't people can't read writing, can't to the standard expected of 11 year old. and you have to hope in advanced economy where you've got to become more productive , got to become more productive, not by working harder, but by working more cleverly in art, reading instruction , manual reading instruction, manual number, prep and that and that, i think is a big, big issue. i repeat , it's better than ten repeat, it's better than ten years ago, up to not good enough. and also do think we now move but i do i do think as he observed as well the fact that you've now got an education who

didn't go to oxford or cambridge but did an apprenticeship major must be one of the most important political facts at the moment. talk autumn moment. let's talk the autumn statement, question did statement, straight question did you it? i was surprised you make of it? i was surprised the next morning when it got by in large panned in the in the media because i actually thought it was very good i thought jeremy hunt stood there with the air of a bank manager saying, you know, this is good, you. and at the same time, he he kept some of those a lot more actually that for those not so well off. he it there and have in mind particularly 10% rise in pension income . why for the life pension income. why for the life of me they don't bring in means testing for pensions beyond me because there'll be an awful of people who are going to get 10% pay people who are going to get 10% pay rise in their retirement pension who frankly , of course pension who frankly, of course they would like it , but do they they would like it, but do they need it? and are a lot of people at the bottom end of pension who desperately need . so i'm not

desperately need. so i'm not saying it shouldn't have happened, but i am surprised given that desperate times call for desperate measures. they didn't bring in a degree of means testing . the other thing means testing. the other thing that i did like to see was this acknowledgement that, you know , acknowledgement that, you know, i jeremy and acknowledgement that, you know, ijeremy and i'm acknowledgement that, you know, i jeremy and i'm chancellor a government that actually, you minister when you were chancellor handed out all this money to really make sure that people could get through pandemic and then he didn't quite use these words but now comes the time to pay for it. and the trouble is the trouble is i think too many people are feeling entitled they feeling well. i had that sort of money. so what are you going to do about now? i'm in trouble with this. what are you going to do about it now? and when you think budget in the next year, we honestly going to pay as honestly we are going to pay as a nation honestly we are going to pay as a natio n £100 billion in a nation £100 billion in interest interest on debts that

we have that is more than we spend on. absolutely. and we've got and the more the debt comes down, the more money is available to and spend on other things. but to get the debt down, we have got tighten our belts as a nation . let me put belts as a nation. let me put two quick things to you . and i two quick things to you. and i wrote them down when i heard them sent to me yesterday on the programme. sarah keall brilliant . young. small and smelly. programme. sarah keall brilliant . young. small and smelly . woman . young. small and smelly. woman runs baby cup . she said, if you. tak runs baby cup. she said, if you. tak economy through tax rises and the rest of it , that's going to the rest of it, that's going to screw me. it means won't be people who've got the money to come and buy my baby cups. that's a truth. the sector, isn't it ? it's the truth . but isn't it? it's the truth. but it's not avoidable because at some point you have. how else do you do ? i mean, i think the way you do? i mean, i think the way that he's gone after the better off with the taxing more at 45% is a good idea they don't like

it. that will take money at which baby cup won't have that spent on them but somewhere he's got to find money. i mean, the one that i thought you were going to say smes were going to say is that he's actually reduced substantially the amount of money that you can take out as a dividend before pay taxes. now small businesses, a lot of small businesses pay themselves by dividend. yeah. so big because basically don't know month in, month out how much they're going to get and they level off at the end of the year with a dividend payment tied to the profits. i'll you what i'll do. i mean, because the clock is against us . next time i'm going against us. next time i'm going to ask my producer to get you and sarah because that would and sarah on because that would be item. you can be a great item. and you can have that conversation. final point a very serious point and it's a very serious one bob seely . you know one and it's bob seely. you know him so i. tory member him well. so do i. tory member of parliament for the isle of wight. said the key thing wight. and he said the key thing that ministers do right that ministers got to do right now because it impacts on the

electorate , on businesses across electorate, on businesses across the spectrum is get out there and give people some hope. you've tried to do that this morning, but he's right about the ministers as well as me . the ministers as well as me. yeah, it's leadership, yeah, it's about leadership, isn't it's about the fact isn't it? it's about the fact that to say to people that you've got to say to people this is where the sun chaplin days, it's over there. i'm to take there. but cannot have take you there. but cannot have had all this money spent on you. plus this madman in moscow doing what he's doing without there being price. get realistic. understand it. but we're on your side . we're with you. taking you side. we're with you. taking you there . and i defy any member of there. and i defy any member of there. and i defy any member of the party to give an alternative way of doing this. because when they use words , a, we would grow they use words, a, we would grow they use words, a, we would grow the economy . well, that's lovely the economy. well, that's lovely to say. you try and do it in the middle of this worldwide recession. and i'll tell you this, we'll leave this, i listen and we'll leave with this. but if a business doesn't make money there is no tax. and there are no jobs. and that tax to pay for the public sector who turn, get income and pay sector who turn, get income and pay tax . but the differences

pay tax. but the differences that a public sector employee gets their money. forget payroll they actually get their monthly money if you're in business especially small business we are approaching the way where a lot of businesses don't know where the meal's coming from and if that happens, you reduce your tax take and you still need to pay tax take and you still need to pay your obligations to pay the wages in the public sector. and of course, in this the of course, in this is the service and of course the teachers and our teachers deserve and our wonderful deserve wonderful servicemen deserve it. but to come creating but it has to come from creating wealth the private sector. wealth in the private sector. thatis wealth in the private sector. that is a truism . and the more that is a truism. and the more people have understood that, then frankly we'd get out of this mess more quickly . be great this mess more quickly. be great to talk to you. love to both of you. have a good sunday afternoon and thank you much indeed don't you. very, very soon. always delivers. lord digby former director digby jones, the former director general of mine for general and friend of mine for probably longer than of us care to remember . probably longer than of us care to remember. i'm delighted to be joined now by another business man from the front line to give me his reaction to the autumn statement . nathan keita is the

statement. nathan keita is the founder of your coffee hub . it's founder of your coffee hub. it's great to see you. you established three locations this year around london and are opening a further two in 2023. dr. are you still planning to open those extra ones next year? good afternoon. yeah. thanks for inviting . of course we are. inviting. of course we are. i think that with any business at the moment, it's about customer reviews. really simple . if you reviews. really simple. if you understand your costs and you can keep your revenue above that, you stay in business. and i think for us, understanding our costs, we came into a market when we came into a time where we understood about the energy costs and we knew that was costs and we knew that that was counted into our figures every month . and because business are month. and because business are run month to month. small businesses like ours where we have to pay bills, we have to pay have to pay bills, we have to pay staff costs , wages, etc. pay staff costs, wages, etc. they. but i noticed your little head was going up and down, as

digby jones was saying, we've got to do this. we've got to the money. we have to look. things have to be paid and money has to be paid. and if there's debts we pay be paid. and if there's debts we pay back, they've got be pay back, they've got to be paid. lord digby said paid. and what lord digby said was, true. know, was, absolutely true. you know, we look after the we do have. to look after the small businesses if fail small businesses and if i fail to pay my staff salary, they've got no job. what happens ? got no job. then what happens? we unemployment again we go back to unemployment again and the cycle carries on. i do think that we need to cut this debt as as possible. but you debt as as possible. but if you have business owner at have a small business owner at the i think the moment, i think it's understanding your costs. re—evaluates everything back to the board. at your the drawing board. look at your costs. have make costs. if you have make sacrifices, and sacrifices, make those. and i think what jeremy think that's what jeremy hunt did. he made some really tough decisions but i think very good ones. about business rates ones. what about business rates which of people in the which a number of people in the city i call you as an sms. city and i call you as an sms. yeah i think that's normal, small and medium size enterprise as was concern about as is. there was concern about that. but but there's a bit of in there. but if you look at the overview , not as you as an overview, not as you as an individual taxpayer like me, but running the business who has to pay

running the business who has to pay the costs and pay staff with a particular measures that were good or particular that gave you a headache. i thought th e £14 a headache. i thought the £14 billion cut was was great over the next five. i thought it was great. and i do think they're trying again. we do feel like they're trying to help, however. i thing that's i think the thing that's crippled everybody, unfortunately, is the energy costs that's that's costs. that's the thing that's taken of its just. it's gone taken out of its just. it's gone up substantially . and people up substantially. and people can't put that into their and make work . and you have to make it work. and you have to wait initially to know what help you are going to as a small business and now we all know that there will be another penod that there will be another period of help but it's going to be less generous . you began this be less generous. you began this conversation quite brilliantly, if i may say so, saying , got to if i may say so, saying, got to sit down there. you do your sums like just said, you work out. can i afford it? how close are to that point where you think, oh my god, on, we're on the oh my god, hang on, we're on the line now. we are on the line every you are on the line. but again, it's just it's really simple formula. understand your if you don't know how much

spending on every single item your business, you will struggle your business, you will struggle you don't know what you revenue you've got at the end of the month. you can't understand the market. i can't determine how many people will come into the coffee shop and buy a pastry and a coffee and a sandwich some might a coffee if might just buy a coffee if they're down. i need they're cutting down. so i need to understand costs and scrutinise and make sure that down to the penny know what's wasted, spending on wasted, what we're spending on staff costs , you know, profit staff costs, you know, profit share, we're one of the only coffee companies that will a profit share to our staff because we want keep them because we want to keep them invested. also got to invested. that's also got to come our costs. but we did come into our costs. but we did it the beginning. so if it at the beginning. so if you're a business owner, no matter what circumstances , matter what the circumstances, you to understand your you you need to understand your cost. it's two things costs revenue. i'll keep saying it's people costs . if your revenue people costs. if your revenue above your costs you'll be alright . i above your costs you'll be alright. i hope you don't mind my saying this, but you were a homeless person before you got into the business and said it. going hard times , tough times. going hard times, tough times. who helped you get from that

sunny rio into being the elegant and articulate guy that you are today? running your business so brilliantly. very kind of you say myself i think you've got to roll your sleeves and do the hard work . there's no roll your sleeves and do the hard work. there's no point relying on other people as much as we should be able to look to our small circle of friends and our small circle of friends and our small circle of friends and our small circle of colleagues, whoever it might be. you've got to roll up your sleeves and do the hard work. and without that you there's you will struggle. but there's a system which has failed and system which has failed us and it failed . certainly the it has failed. certainly the homeless people . there is help homeless people. there is help out there for. but homeless people. there is help out there for . but they're not out there for. but they're not going out there deep enough. they're not on the streets. they're not on the streets. they're not on the streets. they're not actually going to the to the cause of the the route to the cause of the problem dealing with it . problem and dealing with it. well, i've mentioned this several before the several times before on the program, support crisis as program, but i support crisis as much as i can do. they've always made that keep on. it's not just kiss and cuddle time. it's about trying people get an trying to help people get an address, registration , get address, get registration, get an existence within society so they can then bounce into business . well, i think we

business. well, i think we didn't. we so when i was homeless me to get onto jobseeker's allowance, i had have an address. i feel hopeless. you have no address. so i had to give a fake address. at the time had no and i had at the time i had no and i had to wait for the postman before he the letter go he delivered the letter to go and collect it before he put it through somebody else's address box. so box. the system is broken, so there's, things can there's, there's things that can be but it's not hard to be fixed. but it's not hard to fix. those, i think is quite simple. final point is to observe that said do costs observe that you said do costs know what the income is going to be. and final be. but the third and final point said so point that you've just said so brilliantly stand your brilliantly is stand on your own two feet well. get out there two feet as well. get out there and, make the effort, do the hard work. but you make your own choices, own choices, make your own decisions, it decisions, because ultimately it comes back to you. it's you comes back to you. it's how you wake in morning. i'm wake up in the morning. i'm i going make this a positive going to make this a positive day. to go out day. i'm not going to go out there and absolutely smash it. i'm not going to just see what anybody tells i should anybody tells me, what i should be a daily basis. no, be doing on a daily basis. no, go out. make your own fate. great to meet andrew. pleasure. the of luck. the new the very best of luck. the new cafes as existing three

cafes as well as existing three already. of already. that's the founder of your coffee hub, nathan nikita. a to meet him . a real pleasure to meet him. well, the front line of well, now from the front line of british business, let me tell you little story briefly. you a little story briefly. lorraine and sam de are lorraine clark and sam de are celebrating the third anniversary of their health and brand. happy. happy they met on the school playground and they like to set up their own to educate others about the benefits of cbd. that's the legal constituent of cannabis. now you go. hang on a minute. thatis now you go. hang on a minute. that is something that's been embraced by national health service as well, particularly in deaung service as well, particularly in dealing with behavioural and epileptic patients. and i'm to say that sam de joins me now. sam, if that playground meeting was now, do you think the two of you would still found the business? no not so . not at all. business? no not so. not at all. this just the way there's just no support at all for small business . i just feel like we've business. i just feel like we've been.

business. i just feel like we've been . you know, there's the been. you know, there's the vulnerable in society have been completely . and they pay you completely. and they pay you know, the minimum wage has got. that's absolutely right . but for that's absolutely right. but for companies like mine the problem with putting the minimum wage up is that i might have to also reduce staff hours if the phones are coming in and we can't pay wages. so it's not a simple for small business is like has to just help payroll and are on the line and yeah it's very frustrating thing because it seems that we're you know the vulnerable get the help bills in middle we are squeezed in all directions personally amazon how to business and the larger corporations so we're making profits and you know they can take the hits a little bit more than we can and i can't say small businesses last in because if we're not if the people that are buying our products haven't that disposable income they're

not going to be buying we're going to go under. it's as simple as that. it's an intriguing of what sarah keane to me on the programme yesterday about the reduction in demand out there because of the higher taxes and what nathan just saying to keep his coffeehouses going, you've got to do those numbers . got going, you've got to do those numbers. got to going, you've got to do those numbers . got to know what your numbers. got to know what your cost and your potential income is, how close you to saying do you know what? not only would i not start the business now in the current climate , but the current climate, but actually we can't keep the going now . it's exactly the same as now. it's exactly the same as nice and it's on the line every month. it's a matter of did you of sales this month is it you know is does is it more than what we're paying now and if it is then great again this month and been like that for some time now as well i mean we did better actually pandemic because actually in pandemic because we're day and more we're an e—commerce day and more people shopping online. so we actually did a bit better in 2020, but yeah, since last year it's been month on month . we've

it's been month on month. we've had to tread very careful . it's been month on month. we've had to tread very careful. i know i made explanation about the product that you produce, so i want to waste any time with that because to me it's fine. and if it's good enough for the then it's good enough for everybody as well. but i'm intrigued by this whether or not it is a how can i put it without offending anybody, a cheap and cheerful product so you don't have be as rich as croesus to have to be as rich as croesus to buy it whether it's buy it or whether it's specifically at middle earners because understand the because understand from both the office of budget responsibility and the institute of fiscal studies that it's those middle earners the squeezed middle who are going to take the real kicking from this autumn statement. yeah and i would say the majority of our customers are midlanders because you know obviously there's a certain cost we have to pay it also business to get the product saying and again because we're not a massive company we don't get the bulk prices so know we may not be as cheap as some companies

but we we're competitive we all like like with all the brands but a quality like ours you can get a lot cheaper cbd . but the get a lot cheaper cbd. but the problem with that is it's not always good quality cbd . you always good quality cbd. you know, you do have to pay for what you're buying if you want the quality and the good standards. yeah, i understand that final to you, if i may, and it's right from the very beginning of the programme saying i don't expect you to have been listening to it, but had nicky on, who's had nicky morgan on, who's a very good friend of mine, former education and she actually gave autumn statement thumbs up autumn statement the thumbs up and why said it. and i tell for why she said it. and was that if manages and that was that if it manages to inflation and bring to kerb inflation and bring interest rates down, then it will prove to be a price worth paying. the other side will be much sunnier. do you see any merit in? that argument ? i don't merit in? that argument? i don't think so. not for a smaller because a of small businesses right now it's immediate help we need will not go up. there's not going to be a long for a lot of

small businesses. i mean, you know, we look at lockdown and how it's affected a lot of small businesses. a lot of them haven't made it far. and haven't made it this far. and a lot of us are on on these from it all still. and it's just if we don't get some form of how it's just not going to be it's just not not going to be able make it through. able to make it through. i genuinely wish you well, sam. i want to survive . it's want you to survive. it's a great idea . but much more great idea. but much more importantly, this is not going to survive and thrive unless. people and nathan and people like you and nathan and sara yesterday. sara yesterday . sara yesterday. sara yesterday. it you are the backbone of the economy . and i wish you well a economy. and i wish you well a best both of and thanks best to both of you and thanks for breaking into a sunday to talk to us some day and just great this program when you hear the great and the good like nicky and digby and nicky morgan and digby jones and but to hear from three fabulous smiley leaders you really get a sense of what it's like out there my thanks to some day the co founder of happy web at the time is now 1:26. we have a

little more to come in the half hour of the program, alison and friends, after the break . friends, after the break. according to the sunday times, she sunak's government is consider ordering a swiss style relationship with the european union following a yougov poll revealing that one in five of you who voted for brexit now think it might have been wrong decision. good britain forming a new deal with the eu . oh new deal with the eu. oh explosives . let's take a quick explosives. let's take a quick look at the weather first. you can head through this afternoon not the uk will be unsettled , not the uk will be unsettled, particularly in the west with scattered , blustery showers scattered, blustery showers spreading eastward . here are the spreading eastward. here are the details. this morning's rain and cloud will continue to affect the far north—east of scotland . the far north—east of scotland. it will also be rather windy , a it will also be rather windy, a mixture of sunny spells and blustery showers. elsewhere this afternoon a mixture of sunny spells and scattered , blustery spells and scattered, blustery showers will continue across . showers will continue across. northern ireland, however, the showers will become lighter in nature a band of heavy showers will affect northern england. these maybe thundery with hail

for western coasts. they'll also sunny spells for north this afternoon. they'll be a of showers but also sunny spells to showers but also sunny spells to showers will be less frequent than this morning and will also become lighter in nature breezy as well a band of showers will move through across the east midlands afternoon and these may be at times too there will be more sunny spells too, and showers will ease later on. it'll be mostly dry and fine for east anglia with sunny . however, east anglia with sunny. however, that may be the odd shower in the west of the region later on across the south of england, there will be a mixture of sunshine and showers these showers will become less frequent and lighter from the west. windy full coastal regions turning and clearer for a time tonight before a wet and windy weather arrives in the west. later that's how the weather is shaping up for the rest the day .

almost exactly . 131 on radisson almost exactly. 131 on radisson in the gb newsroom in the usa, five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at a gay nightclub in colorado spnngs gay nightclub in colorado springs, according to a statement , the club's facebook statement, the club's facebook page, a number of customers were able to subdue the male shooter they're describing it as a hate attack police say a suspect is in custody and receiving treatment . their injuries . the treatment. their injuries. the fifa world cup kicks off in kassel today. the first time the event has been held in the middle east. the opening match will see the home side take on ecuador. will see the home side take on ecuador . fifa, will see the home side take on ecuador. fifa, hoping the will see the home side take on ecuador . fifa, hoping the focus ecuador. fifa, hoping the focus will now turn away from complaints the arab nations human rights record . players human rights record. players from nine countries including england captain harry kane planned to wear a one love armband which shows support for lgbt people . the housing

lgbt people. the housing secretary has written to every engush secretary has written to every english council leader and social housing provider warning that deaths like that of awaab ishak never happen again. the two year old died as a result of. prolonged exposure to mould whilst living in social housing. michael gove says the country must raise the bar dramatically on the quality of housing available . elon musk has available. elon musk has reinstated donald trump's twitter accounts after putting the decision to a vote on the social media platform. 51.8% of twitter users clicking . yes, in twitter users clicking. yes, in that online poll, which more than 15 million votes. the former president was suspended in jan 2021 after a pro—trump group , the us capitol, in jan 2021 after a pro—trump group , the us capitol , after the group, the us capitol, after the stations through the night, an agreement has been finally reached at cop27 to help poor countries deal with the impact of climate change , the loss and of climate change, the loss and damage fund will help developing

nafions damage fund will help developing nations bear the cost . disasters nations bear the cost. disasters such as droughts , flooding. such as droughts, flooding. however, a decision on exactly which countries will pay into fund has been left until 28 next year. fund has been left until 28 next year . we're on tv and on dab+ year. we're on tv and on dab+ radio . this is the people's radio. this is the people's channel. gb news. back now to . alastair ray. thanks very much indeed. goodness you've been busy on the emails today. goodness you've been busy on the emails today . just one quick one emails today. just one quick one because it's so brilliant and kind of sums those first two big conversations. we about education health comes from education and health comes from jamie who says there needs to be a cross—party agreement on education the nhs to stop education in the nhs to stop them as a political them from used as a political football. all being as football. all time being used as vote winners isn't good enough anymore . i profoundly disagree anymore. i profoundly disagree with that jamie what i do think we need to have is a profound and open debate about what we want the health to want the health service to do for and what we want the

for us and what we want the education service to do for our children. what we children. well, that's what we set try and do today, but set out to try and do today, but all opinions are welcome as so. thanks a lot. we'll have some more of emails before we go more of your emails before we go off 2:00. i hope now i'm just off at 2:00. i hope now i'm just was looking now to see if i can find it, which i think probably can cos there if you're listening on radio i am holding up the front page of the sun which says britain mulls swiss style tie with brussels government . absolutely as well government. absolutely as well might do and. but the suggestion very much is on the front page on deeper into the newspaper that the government might just be testing the waters about a post brexit arrangement with the eu a bit switzerland, not full membership in the single market, but easier on trade rules now as said a little earlier, downing street rejected the claims on friday. however, the chancellor,

jeremy hunt, admitted on bbc radio four. that being a part of the single market could boost growth, but it wouldn't be the right way as it would be what people were voting when they supported brexit . well, our very supported brexit. well, our very own gb news twitter poll suggests that he's right. and also a latest yougov poll, however reveals that one in five who voted for brexit now think it was the wrong decision . if it was the wrong decision. if the uk's view on has changed , the uk's view on has changed, could the government take a deep breath and actually deep down welcome a swiss style deal ? now welcome a swiss style deal? now it's complicated. there's only one person who can resolve it perfect for me and for you . and perfect for me and for you. and thatis perfect for me and for you. and that is the pollsters. pollster professor sir john curtis, who is professor of politics at strathclyde university. and there he is now. it is gb twitter poll and so that may be saying one thing, but the yougov poll did find a cool of people's passions for brexit . what's the

passions for brexit. what's the curtis snap of where we stand on this vexed issue . well the this vexed issue. well the honest truth is that not just the yougov polling , but also the yougov polling, but also polling which people are asked whether or not they would vote in another referenda to rejoin the eu or to stay out has really the eu or to stay out has really the course of the last year or so pointed towards slightly more people being favour of rejoining than voting to stay at. and that there has gradually an increasing proportion of people who have said that the decision to leave the eu was wrong. so they this got a lot of publicity . yougov came out with its figure of 56% saying it was wrong 32% right. but the truth is the you you golf question which has been asked regularly all way back to the autumn of 2016 has in recent rates been persistently showing a gradual increase? so that's not just one

one off poll. it's very clear pattern, a very clear trend in that the basic history is that when the trading cooperation agreement was concluded on christmas eve 2020, on implemented on new year's eve, 2020, after that, there a clear spell of around six, seven, eight months when a majority of people said, yep , we should stay people said, yep, we should stay outside the european union. but you were then remember honest the problems lorry drivers . and the problems lorry drivers. and if we didn't have lorry drivers to deliver the goods to our supermarkets or the petrol our petrol stations and not importantly some people it was to do with brexit . certainly we to do with brexit. certainly we made it somewhat easier for people with the european union who had lorry drivers skills to come here. well, that was the point at which that majority support for staying up began to shift towards being in favour of leave. i'm basically that trend has continued gradually and

we're now on out fresh in polls that asked that question. 58% of people saying we would vote to rejoin the eu. 42% of the opposite opinion. but within there are vital numbers that you and i have talked about so many times, and that is the tory vote already wounded and despondent by rising taxes , slow down cuts by rising taxes, slow down cuts in public spending on this. by rising taxes, slow down cuts in public spending on this . hunt in public spending on this. hunt right. would be real disquiet within the tory ranks if there was any suggestion of a reversal brexit . well, two points to brexit. well, two points to make. i mean, the truth is the conservative party has lost of the people who voted for it in 2019 who also voted leave. i mean, less than half of leave voters are not saying they're going to vote. conservatives not because less than 30 besides the whole electorate are saying they're vote for the they're going to vote for the conservatives the moment. but conservatives at the moment. but certainly if the conservatives hoping some those hoping to regain some of those leave in the party may not want

to reopen this issue. but of course, in truth, what we're talking about here in the end, so far as the conservative is concerned, is not change . the concerned, is not change. the principle of brexit, which is you and i have been talking about so far, but rather what should brexit mean. and you'll remember , though, theresa may remember, though, theresa may came out with one vision of brexit, which basically suggested that we should continue to be aligned fairly with the single market , although with the single market, although certainly not members of it. with the single market, although certainly not members of it . and certainly not members of it. and then boris came along and lord frost and they then pursued what came in that , became known as to came in that, became known as to trade as a hard brexit whereby we've basically maximised our opportunities , setting our own opportunities, setting our own rules and, controlling our own borders . but that said, the of borders. but that said, the of just having, making it much difficult to export to the european union. so i think the interesting is whether or not that debate about what brexit should is going to be reopened inside the conservative party. i certainly accept there's no prospect at all of the

conservative party reversing the principle of us being outside the european union. you are. you're so good, john . mean you're so good, john. mean magic. magic analogies. there's just that final one and it's very cheeky and you've only got 30 seconds, but who's right, sir john redwood. when says in the sun the autumn statement has definitely cost the tory party the next general election or the. are we on the front page of the. are we on the front page of the telegraph saying if autumn statement works and we can cut taxes before the general election , we're back in with election, we're back in with a chance. election, we're back in with a chance . redwood oh zahavi well, chance. redwood oh zahavi well, the truth is the short run at least. john redwood closer to the truth, because the five polls that we've had so far since the autumn statement show a slight easing conservative support and certainly bounce of the party enjoyed with rishi sunak becoming leader. that has been reversed . the conservative been reversed. the conservative party is still over 20 points behind in the polls. now, if party is still over 20 points behind in the polls . now, if the behind in the polls. now, if the autumn statement works , the autumn statement works, the autumn statement works, the autumn statement, not the by the autumn statement, not the by the autumn statement, not the by the autumn statement, but the office of budget responsibility report

that accompanied the statement. so if we're going to suffer a 7% decline livingstone over the decline in livingstone over the next years, it's whether not next two years, it's whether not the can win. against that the tories can win. against that backdrop challenge and backdrop, the real challenge and it's be a very it's going to be a very considerable john to talk considerable one. john to talk to you, thank you for breaking into your sunday afternoon to be with and look forward to with us and look forward to talking to you again time. with us and look forward to talijohnto you again time. with us and look forward to talijohn curtis again time. with us and look forward to talijohn curtis there, time. with us and look forward to talijohn curtis there, professor sir john curtis there, professor john curtis, as i always say, the pollsters pollster, but also a professor of politics at the great university of strathclyde. you watching and listening you are watching and listening to alastair stewart& friends where it is 19 minutes to two. but even within that 19 minutes we have more magic for. but even within that 19 minutes we have more magic for . you we have more magic for. you ahead. we have more magic for. you ahead . it's i don't think doing ahead. it's i don't think doing the next one, are we? no, we're not doing a about back friday. that's now that . we were going that's now that. we were going to but unfortunately fallen off the edge. but i think that we will be. talking to the great peter shilton about the world cup and is unfolding in qatar and believe me it really is football as well as all the rest of it. so stay tuned. you're watching and listening to.

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hello welcome back. 17 minutes to two. you're watching and listening to alastair stewart& friends on gb news tv and radio .today friends on gb news tv and radio . today marks , 30 years since . today marks, 30 years since the devastating fire at windsor castle, which part prompted the late queen to label 1992 as her annus horribilis? the castle built in the 11th century after the norman invasion by william the norman invasion by william the conqueror, was engulfed in flames. and it was feared that huge swathes of our and the royal family's history priceless art and the rest of it would be lost . november the 20th is also lost. november the 20th is also queen elizabeth. the second of the duke of edinburgh's anniversary. and this year would have marked the fifth. we can cross live now to windsor castle . our reporter alice porter is.

brings you right up to with her reflections. there she is standing outside the great windsor castle. quite a day in terms of memories and events for the royal family. and, of course that fire, which i remember very well , because i that fire, which i remember very well, because i reported on it at the time . i know it's amazing at the time. i know it's amazing . think it has been 30 years since that day the fire began in queen victoria's private when it's understood that a faulty spotlight ignited a curtain next to the. and then the fire began and it was spotted around half past in the morning. and then services from all surrounding area, from six different counties very much descended on windsor castle. we saw incredible footage at the time, a much seeing the castle ablaze. and it was an extraordinary task , the firefighters. it took an incredible 9 hours to bring the fire under control . luckily, fire under control. luckily, windsor is a garrison towns hope to get some support from the

army there. but about one a half million gallons of water were used with pumped to try and get the fire out . luckily, the queen the fire out. luckily, the queen was at windsor at the time. she is a booking, but she came to the scene , see what was the scene, see what was happening because windsor castle was very much her home. and as you said in your introduction, alice, this was, of course, very much a part of the royal family and the artefacts in it were of great concern . and so the great concern. and so the firefighters worked incredibly hard to try and save some of this priceless items of . this priceless items of. luckily, only two were lost, but that's really due to the firefighters performed a human chain really were trying to take out these absolute one by one. paul thomas was one of the firefighters who was there on the scene 30 years ago. and he gave his reflection on that day , as we saw it turned out onto the m4 , we could see the smoke the m4, we could see the smoke from from the fire engine. and as go down the relief road to windsor, you see huge plumes of

smoke coming over the top of the castle blocking. them we're going into st george's hall to think it was some huge paintings on the wall. we got some ladders when we up the ladders unscrewing the frames, the paintings and then taking the paintings and then taking the paintings off the walls. and it was getting smokier and smokier and smokier until we were told then to leave because it was getting too smoke into getting too smoke in into dangerous dangerous . that was dangerous dangerous. that was paul thomas speaking about his recollection of events. and as you're saying that four days after the fire took place, the queen gave a very famous speech when she called 1992 and the fire that was the culmination of her annus horribilis because she'd had such a horrible the fire was very much i think the final straw for the queen because three out of four of her children had announced their that year. and of course, the one of particular sort of notoriety at the time was princess diana , prince charles, princess diana, prince charles, and was all sorts of

embarrassing leaked tapes was very awkward for royal family. it became even more awkward when . there were questions about who was going to pay for the restoration, which was to be was going to pay for the restoration, which was to b e £40 restoration, which was to be £40 million. the queen million. in the end, the queen did by opening up did pay for it by opening up buckingham palace to tourists for first time, and it was finally completed exactly five years later in 97, on the 20th of november. and time for the duke of edinburgh and the queen's golden anniversary . queen's golden anniversary. affections and reminiscences there. thank you very much indeed, alice great to talk to you , alice porter. there are you, alice porter. there are national reporter in windsor just outside the castle covering 30 years since the devastating fire that happened there . other fire that happened there. other events as well . now, after over events as well. now, after over a decade of controversy of being awarded the games, the 2022 fifa world cup starts today in qatar as the hosts face ecuador in doha. human rights have

criticised its treatment of foreign workers as well as its stance on same sex relationships. england kick off their world cup tomorrow versus iran which is set to be marred their ongoing unrest home. but how are england fans feeling about it . and could football about it. and could football finally be coming home to either england or of course, to. let's check in with our west midlands reporter jack carson , who's been reporter jack carson, who's been checking out the football fever in.jack checking out the football fever in. jack over , to you . well if in. jack over, to you. well if you want a good idea of what england fans are thinking , their england fans are thinking, their chance at the world cup, you come a sunday league game where people in all kinds of weathers in the winter come out in the freezing cold and the freezing rain as you can see here. now to play rain as you can see here. now to play football and, to honest, play football and, to be honest, some of goals scored here at some of the goals scored here at the sunday league today the sunday league match today were the world cup. were worthy of the world cup. but after the game, caught up

but after the game, i caught up with the players to find with few of the players to find out what they were thinking about cup. yeah, all about the world cup. yeah, all of football. so i was just asking fair . of football. so i was just asking fair. i think it's asking to fair. i think it's a nice time to get together with the lot sort of thing and watch football in the hopes and stuff like that whilst also doing it as like a christmas as almost like a christmas get together that. so together and stuff like that. so if god it's bit different, if by god it's a bit different, isn't because it's usually isn't it? because it's usually like out the summertime and usually around time. many usually around time. so not many people out working time off, people are out working time off, especially work and schools people are out working time off, espec know, work and schools people are out working time off, espec know, vllhe and schools people are out working time off, especknow, vllhe childrenyols people are out working time off, espec know, vllhe children to; , you know, for the children to down and watch it in the schools as so it's a bit as well. so it's a bit different. looking forward to it, i think boys do it, i think the boys will do well. i think about time well. i think it's about time being very close to us. so looking forward to this . one now looking forward to this. one now , did jack finish then of the winter before . and as well winter before. and as well because of winter, people aren't necessarily going out to. watch

the world cup 84% of a survey , the world cup 84% of a survey, four and a half thousand british consumers said they were going to watch the world cup. so they going to stay at home. so those usual that see at the usual scenes that we see at the world in the summer of beers world cup in the summer of beers flying when england flying everywhere when england scored for this winter world cup, so many other cup, there's so many other factors cold, cost factors with the cold, the cost of living to why people also of living as to why people also stay so going to be stay at home so going to be a bit of different world cup, bit of a different world cup, but also there is still football frenzy here and people still frenzy here and people are still willing england on and maybe just maybe this might be the year we football home year that we bring football home you much indeed for that you very much indeed for that round up of what's happening in solihull and to folk at home. let me he won't of known necessarily but me say bye bye to jack and thank you but explain as jack said at the beginning that the weather in solihull is not great. we lost the signal halfway, but you had the signal halfway, but you had the added that only have the added that not only have jack kassam, our lovely guy though , he is of seeing a quick though, he is of seeing a quick shot of my next guest and i'm absolutely to welcome him back

on to the programme we talked about completely different things the last time he was here, but it the former england goalkeeper , the great peter goalkeeper, the great peter shilton . peter holds record 125 shilton. peter holds record 125 england caps played in over a thousand league games. england caps played in over a thousand league games . you thousand league games. you popped up thousand league games. you popped up halfway through the previous two. unfortunately just dead straight faced and looking grand , as you always do . let's grand, as you always do. let's talk a bit about football first and foremost, because a real roar after bizarre press conference last night from john. the focus is all so much up on that straight football. how excited, peter are you about the prospects both for england and for wales . yeah, i'm very for wales. yeah, i'm very excited. i mean been a lot of talk about political things which . i suppose you're going to which. i suppose you're going to get with with qatar stage the world cup. i you know when they were given the world cup, i

think everybody was surprised for different reasons , mainly for different reasons, mainly football wise because of the climate. but we've we've stopped our season and we're there now. and i think now we're there. we should we should concentrate the football. it's it is a greatest football. it's it is a greatest football tournament . and, you football tournament. and, you know, it's going to be a test really because of that , because really because of that, because the climate, too can cope with game after game . very hot game after game. very hot conditions . but i think conditions. but i think certainly looking at england , certainly looking at england, you know, i think we've we've got a lot more of a big tournament . the less, you know, tournament. the less, you know, world cup, we finished in 70 final and euro's in the final and we've got some good young players coming through and it's just so yeah, i think we should be optimistic but it is an open world cup. i think there's four or five teams at the that i think are capable to win in it just there intriguing debate both about the selections for the squad but also for the wales squad about immediate fitness

i.e. reflecting on the end of the of that the season here but did all say the fact it was going to be held in qatar. it was so hot and humid and the rest of it out there. would that have impacted on the selections either for the england squad or the wales . it could have done. the wales. it could have done. yeah, definitely i mean you've got to , you know, really fit got to, you know, really fit players when tournament starts and that may be , you know, one and that may be, you know, one or two players it might not start the early early matches but would be available for the rest. so you know it's think that would be part of the decision making i'm sorry i didn't talk about that was my first bit because obviously i'm engush first bit because obviously i'm english and but you know well i think wales you know they're do okay you know i don't think i don't think they will have any chance to win in that but you know that they i've got a lot of passion, a lot of pride and you know , and a lot of skill. so

know, and a lot of skill. so i think i think they they could do. yeah, i have to share something with you, peter, and i hope she's not listening, but my producer is welsh and therefore , what you've just said, even the conclusion was not perhaps as optimistic as she might be, but you it and you covered it very very elegantly and final question and you know , than question and you know, than anybody else , every time there's anybody else, every time there's anybody else, every time there's a world cup, when england is qualified, there is a song, whether it's football coming home, being a resurgent or or whatever happened in the past, how did the players manage to put all of that expectation behind them and focus on the job in hand or are they conscious of the hopes and prayers of people, whether it's in solihull or or whether it's in solihull or or whether it's in swansea ? can whether it's in swansea? can they put that behind them or that a driver or a negative . that a driver or a negative. well you, you certainly . well well you, you certainly. well the players won't . what's going

the players won't. what's going on back in back in the uk they'll be away in hotels and there'll be rest in preparing and that may with the with the internet now. so catch it catch a bit of it but certainly when we went to italia 19 and lost on penalties in the semi—final, we were so surprised when came out but i'm sure you know the lads will be aware that the coaches are expecting, you know, big things . you know we've set things. you know we've set a standard and they will want to get 100, you don't go too well coach, you know not giving 100% and not wanting to play . i think and not wanting to play. i think we've got the balance now between experience and youth. so i'm, i'm very optimistic, but i think the first game is going to be a tough one against iran that they are in a very difficult time, very difficult to break down . they'll sit back and then down. they'll sit back and then they'll break . and sometimes you

they'll break. and sometimes you can get well, but get a good result. then i think we'll start flying them. peter good you to talk to us. best to both of you. thank you very much indeed for coming on the program . keep in coming on the program. keep in touch with can see the touch with tony. you can see the great shilton there. both great peter shilton there. both england wales and interest england and wales and interest in that first game against iran will be interesting for all sorts of reasons, i'm afraid that's all we have time for today. that's all we have time for today . thank you for all of your today. thank you for all of your emails . may include some next emails. may include some next week and if we can because they are really profound and very, very helpful. but i will be back next weekend from midday until i hope you have a lovely sunday and a terrific week next week from all of us by going through this afternoon, the uk will be unsettled, particularly the west where scattered and blustery spreading eastwards here are the details. this morning's rain cloud will continue to affect the far north—east of scotland where will also be rather windy , a mixture of sunny spells and blustery showers elsewhere this afternoon , a mixture of sunny

afternoon, a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers will continue across ireland. however, these showers become lighter in nature . a band of lighter in nature. a band of heavy showers will affect northern england. the showers thundery with hail for western coasts. there'll also be sunny spells for north wales afternoon. they'll be a continuation showers, but also sunny spells to showers will be less than this morning and will also become lighter in nature breezy as well. a band of showers will move through across east midlands this afternoon . east midlands this afternoon. these may be heavy at times . these may be heavy at times. there will be more sunny spells too and showers ease later on. it'll be a mostly dry and fine afternoon for east anglia with sunny spells . however, that may sunny spells. however, that may be the odd shower in the west of the region later on across south of england, there'll be a mixture sunshine and showers . mixture sunshine and showers. these showers will become less frequent and lighter from the west. windy full coastal regions turning and clearer for a time

early tonight, before a wet and windy weather arrives in the west. later that's how the weather is shaping up for the rest the day .