and speaking for the majority of the british public, despite the media narratives, of course, suggesting her appeal ends at the fringe right of the concert party. it's no secret that the pandemic, too, resulted in economic catastrophe. but what the powers that be prefer to be left off the list is the catalyst of our financial woes. that lockdown actually was the decision to print money like it was going out of fashion. i'm joined by a top economist to assess the impact of those decisions and how we can actually remedy it. today, the conservative party conference left us with plenty to talk about from this week, from our very own nigel farage. boogieing down with priti patel to the prime minister wanting to take

away our ciggies. but what's really going on within the tories right now? some claim the dissatisfaction amongst the party faithful is leading the real opposition to be within the governing party's membership rather than the folk who sit across from them in the house of commons. and there's been a tectonic boom in the self care and wellbeing industry in recent years, with many flocking to learn how to love themselves and increase happiness. i'll be joined by a lady whose passion for health and wellbeing led her to start her own business, helping others achieve their self—care goals . all of that and self—care goals. all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on those news headlines with ray addison . on with ray addison. on >> thanks, darren. good evening. our top story tonight, nearly 200 palestinians and at least 100 israelis have been killed with hundreds more injured after

the hamas terrorist organisation launched a surprise attack on israel. now, those of you watching on television can see live footage of the gaza skyline after thousands of rockets were fired and gunmen crossed the border in a deadly assault. local news has reported that civilians in border towns were barricading themselves into their homes, pleading for help . their homes, pleading for help. hamas says israeli captives have been placed in secure places and in tunnels. meanwhile israel's energy minister says there are plans to cut off the energy supply to gaza . foreign supply to gaza. foreign secretary james cleverly says the uk will not tolerate terrorism . terrorism. >> the uk completely condemns as these terrorist acts against israel and we support israel's right to self—defence . and of right to self—defence. and of course we will be working closely with the israeli government. we're already contact with them and will continue to do so. both to protect british nationals in israel and to try and bring peace as quickly as possible .

peace as quickly as possible. >> dozens of hamas terrorists have been stopped by israeli naval personnel, according to israel's defence forces. a warning for those watching on tv. you may find the following footage distressed seeing earlier this morning, footage distressed seeing earlier this morning , the idf earlier this morning, the idf pursued dozens of terrorists along the southern maritime area as they tried to enter israeli territory via the water. the soldiers opened fire on the militants, successfully destroying four vessels. hamas terrorists were also stopped as they tried to cross into israel along the southern border . well, along the southern border. well, back here, sir keir starmer has promised women that he'll tackle the toxic culture they face and, quote, drain the swamp of hate and inequality . speaking at quote, drain the swamp of hate and inequality. speaking at his party's women's conference in liverpool, the labour leader said he would take on the tech companies who push misogyny for profit. he also said there are still many battles ahead in the fight for equality and justice. >> labour will make a practical

difference to the lives of millions of women in this country . but more than that, country. but more than that, that step by step reform, by reform , mission by mission , we reform, mission by mission, we can also drain the swamp of hate and inequality through the efforts of reform, campaigning and a labour government on your side . side. >> 260 suspected rapists have been labelled as females by police over the last four years. that's according to data from the crown prosecution service, which was obtained by the daily telegraph. the classification comes despite the home secretary urging police not to label rape suspects as women as by law it can only be committed by a biological male . the figures biological male. the figures show a further 209 suspects were recorded with sex unknown . snp recorded with sex unknown. snp leader humza yousaf is being urged to rethink plans for independence after labour's

victory in the rutherglen and hamilton west by—election labour's michael shanks defeated the scottish national party by winning 58% of the vote. it's prompted calls for usf to rethink his proposals . feel that rethink his proposals. feel that a positive showing at the next general election should be seen as a mandate for scottish independence . s staying in independence. s staying in scotland and motorists have been evacuated from a flooded road by helicopter amid extreme rainfall and flooding in scotland. with the met office issuing a warning of danger to life. an amber weather warning is in place for a large part of central scotland, while a yellow weather warning covers most of the country. travel disruption is also taking place with scotrail cancelling trains on a number of lines. in contrast, southern areas are experiencing dry weather, with temperatures as high as 25 c. earlier this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back

to . darren to. darren >> what a week it's been . we had >> what a week it's been. we had a vet open arms, closed doors. cooper well, she's a woman that's never seen a migrant. she doesn't like just not in her own house. of course, she was criticising suella braverman this week for being a part time home secretary with a pound shop. trump approach the irony. but let's get one thing straight here. while the chardonnay swilling elites are fumbling with their worry beads over suella america tour , her suella america tour, her conference speech actually made her not just a breath of fresh air, but more like a hurricane in the stale corridors of westminster, far from the hysterical claim that she's a voice in the wilderness. actually braverman is the megaphone , in my view, for the megaphone, in my view, for the silent majority . and yes, silent majority. and yes, yvette, there are statistics. a home secretary is best friend

when they're actually telling the truth. that is because i've got some stats here. a striking 63% of our islander ers reckon we should put uk workers before migrant workers . a remarkable migrant workers. a remarkable 63% say current immigration levels are more packed than a tube during a rail strike and eye opening. 66% agree with suella that uncontrolled immigration poses an existential challenge to the west. some on cue the dramatic music on that 169% ain't nudge nudge there, charlie believe that illegal migration is about as sustainable as a jenga tower built by a toddler and a paltry 14% think we should let eu judges have their mittens all over our borders. now all of these stats suggest to me , and these stats suggest to me, and they're your views that doesn't look like an out—of—touch politician . an to me that looks politician. an to me that looks like someone bang on the money. and let's not forget the 39% who think like suella that

multiculturalism has fizzled out like a wet firework. the other 30% probably haven't stepped foot in the likes of tower hamlets, where schools have fewer white kids and actually this 46.8% of tower hamlets residents who were born outside of the uk . residents who were born outside of the uk. now, residents who were born outside of the uk . now, why residents who were born outside of the uk. now, why is that an issue? well look at the 2016 dame louise casey report , which dame louise casey report, which sounded alarm bells about social exclusion being louder than a carnival barker. is it racist to say, hey , have we got a problem say, hey, have we got a problem here? it's about as british. if you ask me as morning about the weather. so let's talk about the average pensioner. right. fred and ethel c, who bought their quaint english home back in the 70s . they perhaps can't 70s. they perhaps can't recognise their community anymore. it's like they woke up in a different dimension. the leaders make migration decisions, are from another dimension as well , untouched by dimension as well, untouched by the ramifications . options. the ramifications. options. they're not the ones you see

having to face the same issues as perhaps victims in rotherham, for example, who were sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism . so if suella braverman had the keys to number 10, i reckon she'd be like a political bear grylls doing whatever it takes to ensure the uk isn't the world's doormat . to ensure the uk isn't the world's doormat. but if that means ditching international conventions or airlifting illegal arrivals to ascension island or elsewhere, then so be it . and she's got a willing it. and she's got a willing electorate standing behind her. the stats show it with a thumbs up and a cricket bat ready for action. so why does the left attack braverman with the kind of vitriol usually reserved for a piers morgan tweet? because she shatters their fragile identity politics? a brown woman who doesn't buy into their narrow race baiting ideology. the humanity in a nutshell, folks, if you ask me suella braverman is not an echo. she's

the voice, the voice of reason, the voice, the voice of reason, the voice, the voice of reason, the voice of the majority . and the voice of the majority. and dare i say it, the voice of britain . all of that, of course, britain. all of that, of course, my opinion. and you are more than free to disagree. keep your tweets and emails coming in throughout the show. you can email us at gbviews@gbnews.com. you can also tweet us at gb news. i'll try to get to some some of your comments later on. much more important than my views. joining me now, though, and throughout the show is the former adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley . hi, charlie. charlie rowley. hi, charlie. thank you very much for your company. thank you. thank you for having me. absolute pleasure. after the pleasure. and then after the break, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, actually admitted that the country has underestimated the economic impact of printing money during the pandemic. i'm sure charlie has views on that later on, too. starting with suella braverman. i mean , you've suella braverman. i mean, you've seen some of the hysteria going

on this week right after that speech she made, not just in america a couple of weeks ago, but then at party conference. but it went down pretty well at tory party conference. do you think this is just the views of the fringe or do you actually look at the polling like this and think, actually, she's on to something ? something? >> oh, well, i think she is onto something. and you referenced a number of percentages there and a number of numbers . the only a number of numbers. the only number that i'm interested in is making sure that deliver lowering the reduction in migration, stopping the small boats ensures that rishi sunak remains in number 10. that's the only way that he can stay there. and i think what it comes down to is and what we sort of discovered at party conference, it's just about good old british fairness. you know, there was hysteria over the summer when the australian team the australian cricket team effectively cheated during the ashes just like ashes test. people just like a good of british fairness. good sense of british fairness. we're tolerant as a nation we're very tolerant as a nation . of the things . i think some of the things that says to make her that suella says to make her point as cut through possible point as cut through as possible , she may go to the extreme when

i think and there's nothing wrong with sort of some of the things that she says. but i think, you know, people like to see you work a bit harder and see you work a bit harder and see push to the limits see you push to the limits before you then deliver some of the that she has said and the things that she has said and the things that she has said and the which she's done it. the tone in which she's done it. but to the quick. but she's cut to the quick. she's getting on with it. and i think we just have to now wait and see happens with the and see what happens with the rwanda in november. indeed. >> but do you not think that there's that the there's something that the pubuc there's something that the public getting public are actually getting here, a frankness that here, which is a frankness that they feel been within they feel has been lost within british politics? you know, we're back to the we're looking back to the politics of old the benn's politics of old the tony benn's of the world may have been a little bit more upfront and frankly, personal than perhaps the blairite ppe graduate rates of today. do you think actually the public are saying, oh, actually i like the cut of her jib? >> no, i do. i think politics for many years, particularly dunng for many years, particularly during the tony blair years under alastair campbell, it became a very pr orientated machine. it was about being very pc, very polite. you know, it

wasn't actually addressing the real issues that people face. and, you know , being able to and, you know, being able to just articulate it directly i think is something that the country wants. you saw that in america. you've seen that through donald trump. that's why he was able to cut through because it it because he just said it how it is. i think, you know, we're is. and i think, you know, we're seeing like suella seeing politicians like suella braverman you're seeing braverman and you're seeing canny kemi badenoch. you know, they're directly to they're talking very directly to they're talking very directly to the electorate. they're talking very about issues very clearly about the issues that face, identifying very clearly about the issues that priorities, identifying very clearly about the issues that priorities, knowing|g very clearly about the issues that priorities, knowing what their priorities, knowing what to do or coming with to do or coming up with a solution, knowing how to articulate it makes articulate that. so it makes sense to the british people . and sense to the british people. and that's why it's becoming ever more popular. >> you were in manchester >> and you were in manchester for that conservative party conference. are you hearing that actually people are on manoeuvres ? charlie dare i say manoeuvres? charlie dare i say that actually there's rumbles of what happen in that what might happen in that election next year and they're all thinking about getting the top of the conservative party. >> well , there is no vacancy and >> well, there is no vacancy and there won't be a vacancy. i hope, for my own. well, it wasn't a very good by—election

result for the conservatives, was it? well, i think that's one of the interesting things. there was such a low turnout. and look, the tories in scotland, we were the third, third rate party there, know, the third horse there, you know, the third horse in know, the in that race, you know, the horse three legs probably horse with three legs probably in because, you know, in that race because, you know, we're just not we're never to going win it. but the turnout was i don't think you was so low, i don't think you can take that one result in scotland replicate that scotland and replicate that across the country. and across across the country. and then, know, will have then, you know, you will have a labour itin then, you know, you will have a labour it in scotland. labour replicate it in scotland. >> you actually >> do you think do you actually look what happened think, look at what happened and think, well, are well, the snp's days are numbered and actually that spells something positive for sir it does. sir keir starmer it does. >> for sir keir, but then >> as for sir keir, but then you've got to look at just south of the border , so but the north of the border, so but the north of the border, so but the north of england where you've got a huge number of red wall seats who voted for brexit. and when they sir starmer they hear sir keir starmer talking realigning talking about realigning with the not wanting to diverge, the eu, not wanting to diverge, you these are people that you know, these are people that very, strongly for very, very strongly voted for brexit because didn't feel brexit because they didn't feel as westminster was as though that westminster was working for them and their communities . and if you if communities. and if you if you're going vote for labour you're going to vote for labour again you keir

again because you want sir keir starmer to realign yourself with the well that's not what the the eu, well that's not what the people in sunderland, in newcastle, the newcastle, you're part of the world, what people world, that's not what people voted got a real voted for. so he's got a real balancing act and we might see where he where ends up later where he where he ends up later this week. >> do think rishi sunak >> do you think rishi sunak then missed was missed an opportunity? that was the that struck me the one thing that struck me because he didn't actually really mention immigration. he didn't things didn't really mention things like cost living crisis like the cost of living crisis or energy he focussed or energy security. he focussed instead on a—levels on banning cigarettes for children, on a whole host of things. charlie where i think the kind of people that you're referencing in the likes of the north east, the north—west, wherever it may be, are just looking to the prime minister for action. and actually we don't want action on banning cigarettes. we want action on getting the cost of living down, on ensuring we've actually got border controls. where was that at? >> well, i thought it was i thought it was a very thoughtful speech because if you're talking about the education system and the education system is chopped and when you and were

and changed, when you and i were at school gcse a—levels to at school from gcse a—levels to t levels, now this english baccalaureate that will allow you to study five sort of a—levels or the equivalent of as opposed three, you know, opposed to three, you know, bringing us speed with the bringing us up to speed with the rest of sort of the international community. we i think things very think those things were very well thought banning well thought through banning cigarettes about cigarettes and things is about the protection the long term sort of protection for you know, of course for the nhs. you know, of course people freedom do people have the freedom to do things that they want. they should be the civil in should be the civil liberty in this if the amount this country. but if the amount thatis this country. but if the amount that is spent on the nhs is due to, you know, cancer diagnoses all related to smoking , we're all related to smoking, we're all related to smoking, we're all living longer. we're all going to be old one day. we're going to be old one day. we're going to be like fred ethel going to be like fred and ethel that mentioned at very that you mentioned at the very top. going be in top. we're all going to be in contact with the nhs at some point. so we need to make sure that every penny into that every penny that goes into the matters. and if you the nhs is matters. and if you can reduce those harmful conditions cancer is conditions like cancer that is due related to smoking, if due to related to smoking, if you can reduce all that at you can reduce all of that at the end, then you're helping the top end, then you're helping the top end, then you're helping the society. the top end, then you're helping the so society. the top end, then you're helping the so then )ciety. the top end, then you're helping the so then are :y. going to, for >> so then are we going to, for the rest of our days then, charlie live to protect the nhs?

because mantra because that was the mantra dunng because that was the mantra during the lockdowns, wasn't it? is going to be the mantra is that going to be the mantra for rest our can for the rest of our days? can can our viewers tonight look fonnard to told think fonnard to being to told think about protecting the nhs for ad nauseum? basically >> well, i think there are societal shifts in terms of people's behaviour. you know, so young people now tend to drink a lot less than what maybe you and i did when we were you know. but, you know, kids are not smoking . you know, young people smoking. you know, young people don't take up smoking as they did ten years ago. did even ten years ago. >> so is it necessary? why >> so why is it necessary? why does rishi need focus does rishi sunak need to focus on well, to make sure that >> well, to make sure that i think that those that think about it, you know, think twice, maybe just look after their maybe just to look after their own and looking after the own health and looking after the health nhs, which is health of the nhs, which is going of us in going to look after all of us in years come. years to come. >> not convinced that it >> i'm not convinced that it was. it's absolutely necessary for the main keynote conference speech, will come speech, but charlie will come back you very , very shortly back to you very, very shortly because after the break, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, well, he admitted this that the he admitted this week that the undressed stated the economic

impact of print and money during the pandemic. i'm going to be joined by a top economist to explain going there . explain what's going on there. plus, is the conservative party's real opposition actually coming from within its own ranks? the former tory mp neil panshis ranks? the former tory mp neil parish is going to join me to unpick all of that. i'll be back with you in just a moment. stay with you in just a moment. stay with .

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back. cheers. very much for your company. for time some of your views. as i say, much more important than my own. sean has written in and sean says, i agree with darren braverman is basically the only for hope the survival of our way of life. maybe that's a conversation going on within the conservative party. norm says. though norma disagrees with sean. norma says suella braverman is useless if she was capable of stopping the boat, she'd have done it by now. no

confidence in her at all. and her party conference speech proved why ? why? well, there we proved why? why? well, there we are. what now? i'm standing in, of course, for neil oliver. but this i want to talk to you about this i want to talk to you about this story that i think neil oliver would have liked actually, which is the chancellor, jeremy hunt. he told a fringe event the a fringe event at the conservative party conference this there'll be no this week that there'll be no more tax cuts until inflation is under control because guess why? well, the lockdowns that we had, right, the war in ukraine as well as a wage price spiral as factors that actually eat in to our economic wars. but the spectator magazine's kate andrews this week, she wrote that many of the powers that be have actually evaded impotent . have actually evaded impotent. the blame on the decision to print money in excess in the early days of the lockdowns as a catalyst for inflation and other economic problems. so whilst this tactic of print money a key

reason that we're now in such dire economic straits, or is this impact being overstated by lockdown sceptics? well, i'm joined now by top economist and fellow at the institute of economic affairs , julian jessup. economic affairs, julian jessup. juuan economic affairs, julian jessup. julian thank you very much for your time . julian thank you very much for your time. i'm julian thank you very much for your time . i'm in britain, julian thank you very much for your time. i'm in britain, of course, the bank of england printed more in the first year of the pandemic than it did actually in the ten years leading up to it. that's a statistic that we don't hear at all, is it not? >> yeah, this is all very frustrating thing. i mean, we got a little bit of progress here. so the chancellor has recognised that inflation is something to do with monetary policy and how much money there is in the economy. but he's still not got there yet in two ways. first of all, he's saying that it's only one of several factors. he actually suggested that the russian invasion of ukraine is more important, which is confusing individual prices to be going up the most with what's driving the overall level of inflation down. but also he

talks about we having got this wrong, but actually there are plenty of people, plenty of monetarist economists and even people like liz truss who are warning that printing too much money was going to cause inflation. so the sort of idea that this was a mistake that everybody made is actually pretty galling for those of us who are warning about it. >> so do you think then, julian, liz truss is sat at home watching this with perhaps a glass of vino or whatever else, and she's cheers, guys. and she's saying cheers, guys. i got right. and actually she's got it right. and actually she's been right on is been proven right on this. is that the case? >> well, i think she has, but of course, it's not actually helped her because she had her very much because she had been warning for some time that interest artificially interest rates were artificially low go back to more low and have to go back to more normal levels at some point. and of it's that return of of course, it's that return of interest normal interest rates to more normal levels contributed to the levels that contributed to the downfall premiership . so downfall of her premiership. so she was blamed something she was blamed for something that would happened anyway. that would have happened anyway. and happened other and indeed is happened in other major countries in the world like like the us. so i think it's only consolation for her

andits it's only consolation for her and it's not much consolation for the rest of us who'd been warning know, printing warning that, you know, printing all money and keeping all this money and keeping interest low was interest rates too low was a recipe for inflation. >> and julian, what what lessons are to learn from other are there to learn from other countries that perhaps didn't go as hell for leather with lockdown as we did , you know, lockdown as we did, you know, the likes of sweden, perhaps not as impacted as we are here at home. you know, inflation is still stubbornly high. this is something that you cover quite often on on your blog and in your twitter feed . is this a your twitter feed. is this a problem that's less significant in other countries that didn't say , well, we need to lock down, say, well, we need to lock down, we need to do it sooner, we need to do it harder and for longer ? to do it harder and for longer? >> well, actually, i don't think covid or russia or any of these factors are adequately explain why inflation rates have been different in different countries . all basically comes down to down to monetary policy. so, you know, sweden's underlying inflation rate is pretty much the same as the underlying inflation rate in in the uk.

again, i think there's a danger here of missing the wood for the trees. you don't explain inflation by looking at whichever prices happen to be going up the most. whichever prices happen to be going up the most . and that's going up the most. and that's a mistake that a lot of people still make because if those pnces still make because if those prices hadn't gone up, then maybe others would. instead, when got situation when when you've got a situation when there's much money chasing there's too much money chasing too few goods and services, there's going to a big pick there's going to be a big pick up in overall inflation. simply looking particular looking at which particular pnces looking at which particular prices going the most , prices are going up, the most, whether that's food or energy or wages, that bigger wages, is missing. that bigger picture . and i'm afraid that picture. and i'm afraid that most commentators , certainly most commentators, certainly most commentators, certainly most banks are still most central banks are still doing that. there is a bit of doing that. so there is a bit of navel gazing going on at the bank england at the moment. bank of england at the moment. they've commissioned outside they've commissioned an outside expert, governor of the expert, a former governor of the us bank, to a look us central bank, to have a look at things. not clear to at things. but it's not clear to me going to address the me he's going to address the fundamental questions about the link money credit link between money and credit on the one side and what's happening the overall happening to the overall price level other. level on the other. >> okay, julian, stay there one moment. just going to turn moment. i'm just going to turn now charlie who's in now to charlie rowley, who's in the now. charlie, of the studio now. charlie, of course , big accolade of

course, a big accolade of michael gove, now the golf star wasn't so kind on liz truss and poor old lizzie. now how do you think actually julian's got a point that liz was right on on all of this money printing and all of this money printing and all the rest of it, or do you say she wanted to bring about unfunded tax cuts? well as you know, liz is a big fan of mine and i'm a fan of liz. >> now as a person , as we dance >> now as a person, as we dance the night away at conservative party conference together , i party conference together, i think when we talk about liz truss , some of the things that truss, some of the things that she said were absolutely right. but you know, you can't get away from the fact that the communication was suboptimal, to say the least. it didn't have the confidence that the markets required in order to enact the policies that she was trying to drive through even her own chancellor at the time, kwasi kwarteng has said , you know, he kwarteng has said, you know, he tried to get to sort of slow down a bitjust to bring people with you and steady the ship and then you know, you can make the

tax cuts that you need. you can do the economic policies that you're putting fonnard. so i think no getting away think there's no getting away from think, look, in from that. but i think, look, in terms money itself, know, terms of money itself, you know, there huge there have been two huge interventions in terms of the state funding through state state funding through covid coupled with covid 400 billion coupled with energy bills. it was the second intervention that i think people tend forget when we tend to forget about when we talk about the state intervening in the treasury, sort of stumping the for people stumping up the cash for people to people's energy to protect people's energy bills, with inflation to protect people's energy bilgeneral, with inflation to protect people's energy bilgeneral, you'reh inflation to protect people's energy bilgeneral, you're bringingn to protect people's energy bilgeneral, you're bringing in in general, you're bringing in food, it's through imports. and of course, you know, your your your , you know, lorries, your funding, you know, lorries, you're funding the transport network, of which is relying network, all of which is relying on fuel, which comes from russia. and you know, that's who currently in conflict with ukraine. so of course prices are going up in that sense. now did we print new money? has there been an impact on the uk economy more so , so much great than any more so, so much great than any other european country? i don't think so. i think we are growing. we've grown faster than than france and germany, only by a little bit. but you know ,

a little bit. but you know, we're on the right track to get that economic sort of picture looking great again . looking great again. >> right. julian, i'm going to bnng >> right. julian, i'm going to bring back then on on bring you back in then on on what just heard there, what you've just heard there, because actually i didn't mention and that is one mention energy. and that is one package, massive package of support that taxpayers were offered . now, you've written offered. now, you've written about this one as well. is that more to blame than lockdown ? more to blame than lockdown? >> well, that explains what's been happening to energy prices as lockdown. explain what was happening to the prices of certain goods and services. but that's just where the inflation shows up. it doesn't explain the overall level of inflation. that's simply because there was too much money printed and interest rates were were too low . and i think the danger of focusing on those individual pnces focusing on those individual prices that you assume that prices is that you assume that as fall back, then as those prices fall back, then inflation will neatly fall back as . but that's not what's as well. but that's not what's happened.so as well. but that's not what's happened. so the energy prices are coming down, but the prices of other goods services of other goods and services have started to pick up again. so i think it's really important to

get away with this idea that you can explain inflation looking can explain inflation by looking at the bigger at individual prices. the bigger picture is that there's much picture is that there's too much free floating around and free money floating around and happened to have found its way into prices and the price into energy prices and the price of certain other and of certain other goods and services. but hadn't been services. but it hadn't been then. have then. it would have been somewhere else. >> mean, just briefly >> well, i mean, just briefly then, i what do then, julian, i mean, what do you think economic you think the economic consequences of another lockdown that's been proposed by certain quarters, more radical quarters? it has to be said that actually we need climate lockdowns now . we need climate lockdowns now. next >> well, this is a separate topic from the issue of inflation, but it is very worrying that some people reach for bands and lockdowns in every circumstance . i notice you were circumstance. i notice you were talking earlier about the smoking ban, which i think actually is a piece of economics, is pretty poor. if you're worried about the additional burden on the on the nhs, then you should deal with that through the punitive taxes on tobacco, which we already have. but also you need to think about the longer fiscal about the longer term fiscal implications living implications of people living longer more

longer and actually putting more pressures nhs and the pressures on the nhs and on the pension so i think the pension system. so i think the smoking ban , like most bands, smoking ban, like most bands, would fail at a simple economic cost benefit analysis . cost benefit analysis. >> yeah. well, julian jessup will leave it there. thank you very much for your expert opinion and your time. and of course, that was charlie rowley there. now, up next, are the disaffected tory faithful taking keir starmer's job as the real opposition? stay with me to find out. plus, the self care industry is booming. we all need to love our selves, they say . to love our selves, they say. i'll be joined by a wellbeing coach and a businesswoman to find out why that's all in just a moment . there's help for households. are you over state pension age? if your weekly income is below £201.05, or £306.85 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. it's worth, on average, £3,500 a year, and you could get help

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and keith says, darren, i'm sick of hearing about the nhs. bring on privatisation, get rid of the deadwood, the cost of smoking to the nhs is less than the tax contribution anyway. what's the price of freedom of choice as well? and danny's written in to say, oh, poor charlie. charlie rowley is on another planet . oh, rowley is on another planet. oh, not all cancers are smoking related. there's ovennhelming evidence that governments , evidence that governments, previous advisors and what we eat is more harmful to us than smoking . oh, well, there's a smoking. oh, well, there's a view now this week's conservative party conference saw, of course, some interesting policy decisions from the prime minister, from scrapping the hs2 to effectively bringing in that smoking ban that we've just mentioned there to the chancellor vowing not to cut taxes despite being a supposedly conservative administration . and conservative administration. and some are arguing about that. the announcements followed recent years of supposed economic mismanagement and internal turmoil. they've received mixed

reviews from the party faithful . of course, you only have to look at the contrast in responses to his speech on x, formerly known as twitter, from members versus mps. that's members versus mps. that's members of the party b to mps to actually see the divisions in real time and on tuesday, the telegraph's alison pearson wrote that many within the tory party from members and activists to form a cabinet ministers have become disaffected to the point of openly slamming the government, akin to opt in rhetoric. now the responses from tories to recent government policy has led to that. that charge there , that saying that charge there, that saying that actually it's not the labour party, it's not sir keir starmer , it's the conservative party's own ranks who are the real opposition . so do these opposition. so do these divisions leave rishi sunak with any chance of winning the next election ? well, i'm joined by election? well, i'm joined by a man that knows a thing or two about standing in elections . the about standing in elections. the former farmer and conservative mp neil parish . neil, you must

mp neil parish. neil, you must be happier than a pig in muck, dare i say, not to be in that parliament right now? >> well, it certainly is an interesting parliament, isn't it ? and i think, you know, i mean, i'm old enough to remember 97 and i remember between sort of 92 and 97, every member of parliament, all the party had different ideas to the prime minister you know, john major in those days and everybody went out in the tide when the election came in 97. so i think, you know, if the party doesn't sort of get behind rishi sunak and have one view on life , and have one view on life, whether they like it or not, and i think the election will be worse than ever. i mean, i think if they were to rally now, i think they'll still going to struggle to win the next election, but it wouldn't be a total disaster. whereas i think if carry having if they carry on having different ideas, why would people vote for a party? you know, which comes up with different ideas every day? now i think actually rishi sunak is a love or hate him, but i think

people actually like rishi sunak and they probably like rishi sunak a little bit more . they sunak a little bit more. they like the conservative party at the moment . like the conservative party at the moment. so think it would the moment. so i think it would be wise for everybody to be very wise for everybody to knuckle down and get on with it. but they show no sign of it, do they? at the moment, yeah. >> indeed, indeed. >> well, indeed, indeed. okay. i want to bring in benjamin buttennorth, who joins me in the studio get to studio now. and then i'll get to charlie rowley in a moment. but benjamin, i do you agree charlie rowley in a moment. but benjiwhat i do you agree charlie rowley in a moment. but benjiwhat neil do you agree charlie rowley in a moment. but benjiwhat neil parish you agree charlie rowley in a moment. but benjiwhat neil parish was agree charlie rowley in a moment. but benjiwhat neil parish was saying with what neil parish was saying there know, actually there that, you know, actually there that, you know, actually the tories just need to get their act together essentially? i'm that do. well, i'm assuming that you do. well, they've needed to get their act together a time. together for a long time. >> look at the last >> i mean, you look at the last particularly the last 2 or 3 years of the tory party and they make look united. make the windsors look united. i mean, the family rules that they're having. know, you they're having. you know, you had announcement at had the big announcement at conference scrapping hs2 and conference was scrapping hs2 and then most all. but liz truss are then most all. but liz truss are the previous tory prime ministers come out and say that's a bad decision. so you have the home secretary giving a speech in which she goes on about trans people, about wokery and trans people, tedious once more, and then one

of its longest serving politicians , andrew boff in the politicians, andrew boff in the london comes out london assembly comes out attacking i think that, you attacking her. i think that, you know, i think the idea that disunited parties lose elections isn't because boris isn't always true because boris johnson sort of had lots of problems there and he still managed but they managed to win. but now they just look like a farce because they're decks, they're arguing over the decks, right? got rid of the opposition >> he got rid of the opposition very forcefully. he suspended the whip for those. >> he did. but the opposition was clearly there. but look, you know, the party just looks like a right now. you know, a mess right now. you know, you've suella braverman you've got suella braverman saying to stop the saying they need to stop the boat. rishi sunak, boat. so then rishi sunak, he couldn't boats, he couldn't stop the boats, but he did manage stop the trains. did manage to stop the trains. >> charlie, before we go >> well, charlie, before we go back to neil, i just want to ask you about one thing closer to home. actually closer gb home. actually closer to gb news, was that actually news, which was that actually i think the star conservative think the star of conservative party conference was our very own nigel farage. does that not suggest that actually the conservative party is longing for something other than what it's currently got? >> well, i would disagree with that. >> i thought you were the star

of conservative party conference, darren. you were there and in full. but look, i mean , i don't think i think mean, i don't think i think bofis mean, i don't think i think boris was an anomaly in a sense of having a divided party. it was a divided country over brexit. so trying to manage that. but him as a big personality, outgoing, sort of tigger kind of figure, i think he was able to overcome these things. labour just things. i think labourjust haven't had the scrutiny. i mean, this week will be vital i think, for the labour party. they scrutiny, they haven't had the scrutiny, they policy they haven't had policy announcements. public still announcements. the public still don't know who are what don't know who they are and what sir stands for. sir keir starmer stands for. that's why. no, no, no. that's why. on, hold on. that's why. no, no, no. that's wthhat's on, hold on. that's why. no, no, no. that's wthhat's why. |old on. that's why. no, no, no. that's wthhat's why. keiron. that's why. no, no, no. that's wthhat's why. keir starmer flip >> that's why. keir starmer flip flops. well, he does what he does. really got tory does. you've really got a tory party that couldn't make its mind who be prime mind up over who should be prime minister three times in three months. that months. rishi sunak says that he supports two. the supports high speed two. the transport says. and transport secretary says. and the says it's the chancellor says it's essential. sunak weeks essential. rishi sunak weeks later, it. later, they cancel it. >> is and you know, >> rishi sunak is and you know, you're absolutely right to identify the of the identify some of the some of the minor have taken minor roles that have taken place over the last minor hours that have taken place over the

last couple years within the last couple of years within the tory sunak is tory party. but rishi sunak is the candidate change. he is the candidate for change. he is going change the way this going to change the way this country ed, when country goes fonnard. ed, when you're education you're talking about education policy times, policy with charlie times, education policy like the tea leaves decisions leaves making the big decisions like that i mean, the time like hs2, that i mean, the time there , the what is the new there, the what is the new engush there, the what is the new english baccalaureate now? which is which is the new a—levels. and so, look, there are many, many things that the government is doing. you've been a special adviser, you not at this adviser, do you not look at this and think, a nightmare that and think, what a nightmare that they can't make their up they can't make their mind up from to the next. from one month to the next. >> but unless you're nadine dorries, just a visceral dorries, who just has a visceral hate rishi sunak, the party hate for rishi sunak, the party is behind rishi sunak party is behind rishi sunak the party is behind rishi sunak the party is prime minister, is behind the prime minister, a member of parliament. >> then let's back neil member of parliament. >> “neil. .et's back neil member of parliament. >> “neil. it's back neil member of parliament. >> “neil. i mean back neil member of parliament. >> “neil. i mean sirk neil member of parliament. >> “neil. i mean sir keir neil and neil. i mean sir keir starmer. benjamin sits there and says, know, the says, you know, well, the conservative doesn't know conservative party doesn't know what about. it doesn't know what it's about. it doesn't know its its elbow. but its bottom from its elbow. but actually, starmer actually, sir keir starmer has taken policy positions than taken more policy positions than the . the kama sutra. >> yeah, i think the trouble with with the opposition is that, you know, keir starmer

doesn't really know what he wants. he's very cautious and i think really now whoever wants to win the election have got to get out there and really catch something on fire. at the moment i think the british public are pretty bored. to be blunt with you, with both parties, because they don't see a lot of difference in them. and i think you when sunak started you see when rishi sunak started to delaying the ban to talk about delaying the ban on petrol cars, if you live in a rural area , if you run rural area, if you run businesses in a rural area , you businesses in a rural area, you actually were quite pleased with that because you can't afford to change your vehicles so change all your vehicles so quickly. think there's quickly. so i think there's a lot to play if the concern lot to play for if the concern lviv party looks like a conservative party and doesn't look like a sort of status party that sort of poured so much money into the economy and actually borrowed so much money because pandemic , it's because of the pandemic, it's all so muddy for everybody. all got so muddy for everybody. and i think, you know, if only the party would turn around and be a little bit more conservative. so certainly a bit more and certainly a more united and certainly have a reason somebody to vote reason for somebody to vote for it, like said at the it, because like i said at the moment, you know, we can't

organise a brewery, can we? that's problem. and that is that's the problem. and that is the and think if we the problem. and i think if we pull we have still got pull together, we have still got a chance. but divided we won't. okay we'll leave it there. >> neil parish, a former tory mp, thank you very much for your time there. and of course in the studio by benjamin buttennorth. and charlie rowley there with me now at. and well after the break, we're to going be talking about self care and well being. the industry apparently is soaring. and it seems we all want to show ourselves more love. but what's behind the boom ? self care expert, the coach and businesswoman naomi buff joins me in the studio to tell us all about that in just a moment .

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tv and on radio. now it's time for some of your views. annie has written in and annie says, the conservative party members like me were right to choose liz over rishi. the problem for liz was wanted rishi was the globalists wanted rishi and the membership choose the and the membership to choose the wrong . so no matter what wrong person. so no matter what she done , she would have she had done, she would have been pushed out . well, neil says been pushed out. well, neil says milton friedman's book, free to choose. he's an economist, milton friedman explained very specifically and clearly what the source of inflation was. the printing of money. said , that printing of money. he said, that leads directly to inflation. therefore, to stop inflation in its tracks, you simply have to stop printing money. why was this lesson not sunk in with the powers that be in 2023? thank you for your views. much more important than my own now, folks moving on. we all love to love ourselves. it's the creed of the day, is it not? and in recent years, the self care and wellbeing industry, it's a booming industry. so our next guest today discovered the joys

of healthy living and self care in 2011, leading her to develop a passion for such practises and to actually start her own business coach coaching others on it . i'm business coach coaching others on it. i'm joined now by the integrative and holistic wellbeing expert and the founder of nourish by naomi naomi buff. naomi you know your surname buff, that it does strike me as someone perfect for a wellbeing coach, does it not? thank you. charlie rowley is already getting your business card out ready ? ready for this? ready? ready for this? >> well, i've never been called buff, so . buff, so. >> so tell us what what actually is it? >> because for a lot of people watching at home, they'll be thinking, oh, this whole you know, love yourself more and all the rest of it. it doesn't sound very british. sell it to the british people. it to us. british people. sell it to us. >> would to sell it to >> i would to love sell it to you literally . so we live in a you literally. so we live in a very stressed out world right. and the current things that we're using to help us through

through the stress just aren't working. they aren't sustainable. they aren't healthy. they're not giving us that fulfilment and that for love so the way that i love life. so the way that i work is really by doing the inner work, you know , like not inner work, you know, like not looking for the outside things to find happiness in. i know people who have got bucket loads of cash they've got of cash and they've got businesses, they've got the of cash and they've got busiryachts,they've got the of cash and they've got busiryachts, everything the of cash and they've got busiryachts, everything ,he of cash and they've got busiryachts, everything , but cars, yachts, everything, but they're not happy. so you have to ask why. and then really like, look at the inner world and that comes from like self love. >> so can this gong get me off alcohol then? can it can it ensure that i don't turn to the bottle after a stressful day? is that what you're me? that what you're telling me? well, could. well, it could. >> and if not, i could. i could play >> and if not, i could. i could play this over well. please play this over as well. please demonstrate power. demonstrate the power. >> of wellbeing >> the power of wellbeing through your. you've bought a collection of goods. show us how this has worked, how this is used in your in your practise in your job. >> absolutely . well this is this >> absolutely. well this is this is a and this one is is a gong. and this one is called sedna and the magic of sound vibration. it's been around for thousands of years. so it's not a it's not a fad.

it's not something new. it's something ancient that's been used to heal . and the magic of used to heal. and the magic of the gong is that the sound vibrations , are they wash over vibrations, are they wash over you and they wash through you to bnng you and they wash through you to bring you into a deeper state of relaxation motion. so what they're doing is they're resetting and recalibrating the nervous we live in nervous system. we live in a world where we're constantly in fight or flight. you know, we're highly cortisol, adrenaline, you know , we don't have that time know, we don't have that time where we can rest and digest . where we can rest and digest. >> so this is a form of meditation. is it is it a bit like this asmr thing that i've read about? >> it's another tool, another tool. >> it's another tool, another tool . yeah. there's lots of tool. yeah. there's lots of different tools and the thing that i really promote is about finding what works for you. you know, we're all like really different, like we have an individual blueprint of what works for , for each of us. like works for, for each of us. like for me, like when i was going through a really traumatic divorce, i had crippling anxiety. and anybody who has had

anxiety. and anybody who has had anxiety will know that feeling like in the chest, in the stomach, where it's just debilitating. can't do debilitating. you can't do anything. and i would come to my gongs and i would play the gongs. and this was right at the beginning, my business beginning, before my business really with the sound really took off with the sound therapy. play sound therapy. and i'd play the sound and feelings of the and the physical feelings of the anxiety that crippling feeling that meant that i couldn't even move would completely dissipate . and i was like, wow. like, i can breathe again. and i just i just found that really fascinating and really magic, how it was so quick, so i think it's really about an individual person just to find what works for you. >> yeah, i mean , charlie, do you >> yeah, i mean, charlie, do you think you would like to bong a 9°"9 think you would like to bong a gong for a moment of a moment of meditation ? meditation? >> well, after that bust up, i've just had with buttennorth, i've just had with buttennorth, i might need a i might need a and how long would you use it for ? for? >> what is the time that you use it? 305 >> what is the time that you use it? 30s is >> what is the time that you use it? 305 is it >> what is the time that you use it? 30s is it a couple of minutes? what is it that actually sort of before the overall impact and how often?

once a day, once a week. >> what's the you can >> what's the what's the you can 9°"9 >> what's the what's the you can gong as you like. gong as much as you like. >> oh thank you. not just the gong >> oh thank you. not just the gong though. >> right. it's yeah, i've got other things there other things here. there are other things here. there are other therapy that you other forms of therapy that you would have been would recommend that have been useful yeah, absolutely. useful to you. yeah, absolutely. >> like bowls , >> i have like crystal bowls, chimes. wow. stick a wah wah stick. would you like to see the. yes i would. a sound bath . the. yes i would. a sound bath. >> oh, yes, i see. yeah. wow. so what a sound bath is. >> it's like it's using all of the different instruments that you see and the process is 40 minutes for a full sound bath, but you can get really good benefits in like ten, 15 minutes. but 40 minutes is what i would do. like a group session as an end in that it would be some, some gongs, it would be some, some gongs, it would be some of the bowls. it would bnng some of the bowls. it would bring you up, it would come crashing down and it really helps, like, as i said, like resetting the nervous system. it helps . helps with sleep. helps. helps with sleep. >> do you get a lot of people saying at first being a little bit apprehensive , live, little

bit apprehensive, live, a little bit apprehensive, live, a little bit sceptical, perhaps ? bit sceptical, perhaps? >> they're favourite people. >> they're my favourite people. >> they're my favourite people. >> it. >> i love it. >> i love it. >> love it because they're the >> i love it because they're the ones over at the end. ones that come over at the end. they're going, that was the best thing ever. when can i come back? >> because they the people >> because are they the people that reluctant in that are the most reluctant in your are they the your experience? are they the ones need it the ones that actually need it the most, stressful most, who are living stressful lives , who are perhaps a little lives, who are perhaps a little bit anxious at certain points of the day, who can really benefit from just taking some time out? >> absolutely. i think everybody can it. i mean, can benefit from it. i mean, every now and again, do get every now and again, i do get somebody comes along and somebody who comes along and they're wasn't really they're like, that wasn't really for fine. and for me. i'm like, fine. and i can give them suggestions of other things that will work for them. mostly will other things that will work for them. back nostly will other things that will work for them. back because will other things that will work for them. back because they will other things that will work for them. back because they get. other things that will work for them. back because they get they come back because they get they they'll like a baby they'll sleep like a baby aftennards and the effects of a sound bath isn't a one hit wonder. it does have lasting effects as well. so it doesn't. and whilst it can't change like the stress that goes on outside, that would be amazing if it could, wouldn't it? it does is it really helps with like our ability to cope with those stresses. perhaps less stresses. so perhaps you're less reactive, less angry,

reactive, you're less angry, like you're less tense . like you're less tense. >> well, there are good things there. good things. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i could do with that, charlie. >> yes. there's a >> well, yes. and there's a serious because, you know, serious point because, you know, we're ever more people we're hearing ever more people are being prescribed antidepressants nhs. antidepressants on the nhs. >> is the go to >> you know, that is the go to that gps are now just signing it off because you know, there seems nothing else. if seems to be nothing else. if there alternatives like there are alternatives like sweets, like exactly. sweets, like like exactly. they're like they're giving them out. like if there alternatives there there is alternatives out there or actual methods that do or actual methods that can do good popping then good without popping pills, then i great thing. i think that's a great thing. >> very briefly, if people want to find out where can they to find out more where can they find out you and your work? >> they can find me on instagram. nourish by naomi nourished instagram. nourish by naomi notnaomi above there. thank you >> naomi above there. thank you very much for your time. charlie rowley thank very rowley as well. thank you very much he's off to much for your time. he's off to play much for your time. he's off to play with gong now right? play with your gong now right? well, folks, it's 7:00. this is darren for neil oliver darren grimes in for neil oliver on your telly online. and plus dab+ radio even coming up. it's the saturday five. i'm not going anywhere. join us there . on mark anywhere. join us there. on mark dolan tonight.

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