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news. news. >> morning. here's your latest weather for gb news from the met office. more rain to come as we go through today, but at least it is going to be pretty mild before a showery day for tomorrow. like i said though, plenty of rain around today. a band its way northwards band pushing its way northwards into scotland across into parts of scotland across northern ireland, and some of that rain could turn heavy. even a little bit of wintry ness, some sleet or snow over the highest ground across more eastern england. eastern parts of england. it's actually largely actually going to be largely fine . some decent sunshine fine. some decent sunshine through the day, but through much of the day, but cloud outbreaks of showery cloud and outbreaks of showery rain from rain feeding up from the southwest some brisk , southwest on some brisk, blustery winds. like i said though, mild side though, on the mild side temperatures are well above average for the time of year for most of us, though, a little bit chillier towards the north. more rain as go through rain to come as we go through the end of the day, particularly across scotland. but it across parts of scotland. but it does push away we go does start to push away as we go into there will be into tomorrow. there will be some skies around tonight, some clear skies around tonight, but outbreaks of but also further outbreaks of showery some of these showery rain and some of these could really pack punch. there could really pack a punch. there could really pack a punch. there could occasional could be the occasional downpour. temperatures though not amount
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gb news. >> good morning. 930 on thursday, the 14th of march. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so another royal rift. prince william and harry are set to
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make an appearance to honour their mother, princess diana, tonight. but they're going to be doing tonight. but they're going to be doiiextremism redefined. the >> extremism redefined. the government is setting out a new definition of extremism after rise in hate crime against jews and muslims. does it go far enough, or some people say, does it go too far .7 it go too far.7 >> and diane abbott has accused both conservatives and labour of failing to tackle racism following remarks made to her from a major tory donor. does she have a point .7 she have a point.7 >> and the halifax are set to impose a 70 year old age limit on thousands of older mortgage borrowers. this means higher monthly payments for many. is this smart business or unfair on older home buyers .7 older home buyers? >> and arts for everyone , >> and arts for everyone, everywhere. we're all going to be painting, singing and acting our way through the day. this is going to be the message from sir keir starmer this morning, as he pledges to create more opportunities for working class
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kids. and kev's pick and mix on the market in suffolk is over after 24 years, because the local council want to give the market a bit of a sort of woke makeover. make it healthy, terrible, terrible. >> what happened to tradition, quiet and choice and the small working person wanting to make a living . living. >> you go to tesco, get your picker mix down the road. that's okay. apparently but not okay for kev. we're going to be talking that gb views at talking about that gb views at gb com first though, is gb news. com first though, is the with sam francis. the news with sam francis. >> bev and andrew. thank you very much. good morning from the gb newsroom. >> it's just gone well 936 and these are the latest headlines this morning. the government has outlined a new definition of extremism that comes just two weeks after the prime minister warned of forces that he said were trying to tear us apart. it
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describes extremism as the promotion or advancement of an ideology based on violence, hatred or intolerance. it's intended to be used to assess whether groups should be given a platform or receive public funding. ministers say britain is facing an increased threat of extremism following the hamas attacks on israel in october. however church leaders, including the archbishops of canterbury and york , have warned canterbury and york, have warned that the definition could create more division . fewer middle aged more division. fewer middle aged people are dying from cancer than at any point in the last 25 years, though researchers are warning that cases are still on the rise. deaths among 35 to 69 year olds are down because of better screening and treatment, and fewer people smoking. however, studies showing a concerning increase in cancer diagnosis, particularly in prostate and breast cancer experts say it's largely due to lifestyle factors like obesity and alcohol consumption . with and alcohol consumption. with better intervention, they say around 37,000 cases could be
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prevented over the next 16 or so years . and china's foreign years. and china's foreign ministry has criticised a plan in the us to force the owner of tiktok to sell the social media app.the tiktok to sell the social media app. the bill, which passed bipartisan support yesterday, aims to address concerns over the chinese government's influence on the algorithm that's behind the video app, which is used by some 170 million people in the us alone. a spokesperson for china's foreign ministry says there's no fairness to speak of inciting national security as a reason to force the sale. while tiktok ceo says it will reduce competition in the market. those are the headunes in the market. those are the headlines for now. more to come in the next half hour. and in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code there on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . to gb news. com slash alerts. >> good morning. welcome to britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev
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turner. a lot of royal news around because william and harry are supposedly attending the same award ceremony. >> that's how it's been billed . >> that's how it's been billed. but in fact, they're not. it's all to do with their mother. william will make awards on the stage the science museum, and stage at the science museum, and then beam in from then harry will beam in from from montecito in california. but his brother's gone. but after his brother's gone. isn't pathetic? but after his brother's gone. isn'it's pathetic? but after his brother's gone. isn'it's extraordinary, isn't it? >> it's extraordinary, isn't it? it shows what conflict it shows what what conflict there at a time like there is. even at a time like this. you think they might just, you know, think they might come on, differences for on, bury their differences for the their mother the sake of their mother together, can't even together, who can't even be on the one on a the same room with one on a screen one on a stage. screen and one on a stage. >> it really is bad. and actually, their mother would devastated. >> she be devastated. and >> she would be devastated. and they a strong in they need a strong woman in their life bang their heads their life to bang their heads together. my mum would together. as my mum would would do. all though, it is do. first of all though, it is great to see. was great to see some of the royal family attend the day of cheltenham the second day of cheltenham festival yesterday. it was, of course women's course traditionally women's day. it became woke wednesday didn't your didn't it? andrew, in your opinion, style wednesday . opinion, became style wednesday. >> camilla, the queen >> so there's camilla, the queen with a big the papers with a very big hat. the papers are making the fact that
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are making much of the fact that on day, she was wearing an on style day, she was wearing an outfit worn before. why outfit she was worn before. why shouldn't she? >> a green and >> good. it's a green and a valentine coat. apparently she was wearing it with a vibrant floral and a hat from lock floral scarf and a hat from lock and co. zara phillips, who always looks fabulous. yeah, i love phillips. her many love zara phillips. met her many times. the most down to times. she is the most down to earth person could possibly earth person you could possibly imagine. is . princess imagine. she really is. princess anne a brilliant job in anne did a brilliant job in raising phillips be raising zara phillips to be normal and her brother. >> and point was there peter >> and the point was there peter phillips and phillips. they phillips and zara phillips. they are on. they're not on are not right on. they're not on board. lord or lady. yeah. >> mr and miss so was also princess eugenie . princess eugenie. >> that was princess eugenie and mr >> i have nothing i've got nothing on eugenie prince andrew's daughter she looked very nice in white. she's lovely i bet she has a lovely life right. the government have announced their new definition of extremism. >> so which incite hatred >> so groups which incite hatred and democracy and undermine democracy will be named extremes. named and shamed as extremes. they're to. we don't they're not going to. we don't know names the groups know the names of the groups yet, we're getting the new definition. >> people that fall below the terrorism threshold but continue to , hatred or to promote violence, hatred or intolerance be banned
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intolerance will be banned from working public body. intolerance will be banned from worsog public body. intolerance will be banned from worso this public body. intolerance will be banned from worso this is public body. intolerance will be banned from worso this is all public body. intolerance will be banned from worso this is all going: body. intolerance will be banned from worso this is all going to ody. intolerance will be banned from worso this is all going to be. >> so this is all going to be announced by michael gove, the community secretaries. but he was in of this by was advised in all of this by the former labour mp, now the government's adviser on political violence and disruption. lord walney, who joins walney, good joins us now. lord walney, good morning . why do we need morning to you. why do we need this definition to be changed? and if you could explain in layman's terms what what's it been changed to and how will it affect people ? affect people? >> good morning. i do think the progress being made by the government today on this is welcome. and what they are doing is actually narrowing down the existing focus on on extremism, which had been brought to a level where it was actually quite difficult to sometimes to understand, certainly to interpret and enforce into meaningful action. so what this revised definition does is it focuses on the attempts by some groups, some individuals to systematically undermine our liberal democracy. so a kind of
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harm being perpetrated on the country, which is , is often country, which is, is often below that violent terrorism threshold , but for which the our threshold, but for which the our security services have rightly had a focus on in recent decades, but nevertheless can do really significant harm in, undermining the values that are central to us as a country. and so i'm i'm welcoming the fact that we can be, more active and proud of the fact that we are a parliamentary democracy , that we parliamentary democracy, that we should seek to protect it. and what must flow from this is the really difficult work to , as you really difficult work to, as you say, andrew, to identify by which groups are falling beyond the acceptable threshold in, in seeking to undermine democracy and removing funding and support from those groups. >> i mean, look , it sounds >> i mean, look, it sounds
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incredibly well intentioned, but at the moment, if you've got groups who are quite vocal about their dislike of other religions or even this country, we know who they are because they feel free to say that out loud. if they now know that you are policing what they say as opposed to what they do, they become much harder to identify. they're going to still be thinking these things. they're just not going to say them out loud. >> well, it's even more difficult . and, conceptually difficult. and, conceptually and, and in practice to police, private thought and no one is, is suggesting that. but where i think the harm can be done is by encouraging this sense, actually, that our, covid in the sense that we should all be striving for, for systems that are in direct opposition to our parliamentary democracy. and i think if we can n be more
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focussed on saying that that is unacceptable. it may not be illegal, but we certainly shouldn't have a government pubuc shouldn't have a government public system that can actually end up pumping public money in various ways into supporting groups who are actually at their heart , they want to dismantle heart, they want to dismantle the system that we are, that we are lucky enough to enjoy in the united kingdom. so all of this is all of this is really clever. >> they'll just get cleverer. they know you're watching what they say. now, if somebody is saying things which are against this country or against a religious group, those departments handing out that money should be sufficiently smart to not give them that money we need this money anyway. we don't need this legislation these groups legislation so that these groups become much cleverer at disguising feel, disguising how they feel, because know you're because now they know you're watching them. now they know they could get in trouble for what they say. they're just not going to say it. we don't need this, we? if are doing this, do we? if people are doing their properly, we don't their jobs properly, we don't need their jobs properly, we don't neei mean, i understand the
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>> i mean, i understand the argument, but i mean, you could apply to any apply that really to, to any law. is. i think, a, a law. there is. i think, a, a point in having laws that can can focus a mind on, on, on trying to help public trying to, to help public institutions understand is institutions understand what is unacceptable . because unacceptable behaviour. because i there are there is often i think there are there is often confusion . there can be confusion. there can be confusion. there can be confusion about where the boundanes confusion about where the boundaries to lie . and boundaries ought to lie. and even if you know where you think the boundary to be, often the boundary ought to be, often when you are an individual organisation or grant giving body, it can be difficult to understand whether this organisation is, is across the line or not. and so i none of this will be perfect, but i think it can give a greater level of , of clarity about who level of, of clarity about who we are as a country , what we we are as a country, what we stand for, the kind of and the bar that there ought to be to be, engage with, with mainstream institutions and, and being potentially in receipt of public money for doing so is this, is this just going to be guidance in the end though? >> lord warning it's not you're
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not actually going to take legislation through through parliament, you think legislation through through parliel1ent, you think legislation through through parliel1ent, thatou think legislation through through parliel1ent, that is think legislation through through parliel1ent, that is a think well, i think that is a government's intention. >> and, michael gove has >> and, and, michael gove has been good enough to consult me on the definition. but this is, you know, this this is his and the government's prerogative. i i think that it that this needs to be more than, than guidance in the sense that i think the, the framework needs to be robust. it needs to be well understood and it needs to be able to be scrutinised and, and challenged in whatever the most appropriate way for that to do. because obviously, if you are a group that is labelled as extreme , you're going to have extreme, you're going to have something to say about that. some of the organisations that are clearly worried they're going to end up on that category are already being very vocal about it, and i'm worried i'm going to up that category. >> i'm worried i'm going to end up that category. and let me up on that category. and let me tell why. because during the tell you why. because during the pandemic, spoke out
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pandemic, when i spoke out against government policy, which we to do a we should be able to do in a liberal democracy, i was being surveilled the government. my surveilled by the government. my name on those i sent a name is on those lists. i sent a tweet out raising awareness of data about an data on the var system about an increase in menstrual irregularities the vaccine irregularities after the vaccine that a black mark next to that got me a black mark next to my name with this government and in similar pandemic in a in a similar pandemic situation, when everyone's panicking everybody's panicking again and everybody's talking about individual liberties, when people like me are talking about individual liberties and you're talking about what will keep people safe , i might be deemed to be dangerous to the public. how can you guarantee to me that that won't happen? >> well , i won't happen? >> well, i mean, on one level, i mean, bev, you shouldn't be daft enough to fall for a conspiracy theory. no this was this was very this was on the government. but there's an important but there's an important point, you know. >> how dare you? don't tell me that's a conspiracy theory, because that's data. >> turn this all >> i'm going to turn this all into david again. >> are we? no. but this is about free speech. this is about free speech. and you can't speech. and if you can't guarantee me. well, this.
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because so much of that. >> answer that. please >> let me answer that. please forgive me for forgive me for tweaking tell. it a it tweaking your tell. it is a it is an important point. let me answer, me answer. let me answer, let me answer. let me answer, let me answer. let me answer the i think that answer the point. i think that it is really important that there a for, space for, there remains a for, space for, for free, for speech. and for free, for free speech. and i think the you're it's understandable that we look at the, the recent pandemic and where the boundaries ought to lie because, you know , there lie because, you know, there were a lot of conspiracy theories that were around about at the time. and i think that raises questions for, broadcasting guidelines. but equally, there danger that equally, there was a danger that you had a level of groupthink and you shut out things like , and you shut out things like, was china responsible for the violence, for the for the virus being, being produced and that was jumped on early on and, and, and discussion around that was, was suppressed. so this is a, this is an important and difficult balance. and i think thatis difficult balance. and i think that is why the framework that is set out needs to be able to be properly scrutinised , and, be properly scrutinised, and, and challenged because , well,
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and challenged because, well, while you may or may not agree with the instincts of a current government or a current government or a current government minister, we are always liable to change in a democracy. okay and you need the framework to be able to withhold a big change that could end up, you know, in future, potentially saying an organisation like gb news is falls foul. we don't we absolutely . absolutely. >> we got to go. lord walney, i think you and i need to have a cup of tea together and clear the air. >> let's talk about covid. >> let's talk about covid. >> no, i won't, i talk about it's not about covid, it's about free speech. and if you're okay with it now, if this legislation comes in and keir starmer but not legislation, said he not legislation, he said he intends to be no, it isn't. intends it to be no, it isn't. >> that's the point. it isn't going be legislation. he just going to be legislation. he just guidance. >> well, if it's guidance still it
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welcome back. let us know your thoughts this morning. gb views at gb news. com. are you concerned by the definition of extremism being tweaked? is it going to become something that we should all be a little bit frightened of? political editor of the daily express, sam lister is with us here. sam, your thoughts on this? >> yeah, well, i just i just wanted to kind read out. so wanted to kind of read out. so the it says the the definition, it says it's the promotion or advancement of an ideology on violence, ideology based on violence, hatred intolerance. i hatred or intolerance. and i think that the concerning think that is the concerning bit. it says that aims bit. and then it says that aims to negate or destroy the fundamental and freedoms fundamental rights and freedoms of or undermine blah, of others or undermine blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. so i think intolerance to me that thatis think intolerance to me that that is a very loose, woolly . that is a very loose, woolly. >> and you see, i know where i worry about that. it could be, i would say, somebody who calls themselves a woman when they're a man who's and if i call that out, yeah. am i then going to be accused of intolerance ? accused of intolerance? absolutely. guidance. yeah. and that's my worry. >> i think that's very worrying. and i think miriam cates the conservative mp, she's been a
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big campaign. she's done a lot of work with the daily express. yeah. this issue a man yeah. on on this issue a man might identify as a woman, but i defend say you're defend my right to say you're still a bloke. >> exactly. that intolerance? >> well, 100. exactly. >> well, 100. exactly. >> and that's that's the worrying i think about this worrying bit i think about this and not very clear. it's and it's not very clear. it's very woolly. it's loose. very woolly. it's very loose. it's very open to interpretation. yeah. only interpretation. yeah. it is only guidance at moment. guidance at the moment. >> right law. it's not >> he wasn't right law. it's not legislation. >> he wasn't right law. it's not leg notion. >> he wasn't right law. it's not leg notiithink he i think he's >> no i think he i think he's i think the government would get it through. i mean they wouldn't they wouldn't not not in they just wouldn't not not in this time. >> w- this time. >> it would get >> yeah. and it would get completely torn out the laws. completely torn out in the laws. and lot of tory mps and there's a lot of tory mps very concerned, very concerned about the issues about this because of the issues of speech. of free speech. >> then you also have to >> but then you also have to worry what happen worry what does happen under a labour take worry what does happen under a labo they take worry what does happen under a labo they beef take worry what does happen under a labo they beef it take worry what does happen under a labo they beef it up take worry what does happen under a labo they beef it up little ke this, they beef it up a little bit and then where are we? >> and if it's an authoritarian government. exactly >> so i just think >> and also so i just think there are big questions about it. i also have a big it. but also i also have a big problem with the fact that it's civil, servants drawing up civil, civil servants drawing up this list. you know, with this list. and, you know, with the will in the world. i'm the best will in the world. i'm not sure i would trust civil
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servants drawing this servants to be drawing up this list. it's so important list. and if it's so important we're definition we're getting the definition today, are getting today, why are we not getting the groups are going to be the groups that are going to be identified as extremist now? >> got to wait two >> why have we got to wait two more weeks? exactly. they're still on list. what still working on the list. what they know. yeah. they don't know. yeah. >> there's some suggestions >> and there's some suggestions that are in that there are groups in contention cage. contention here. so cage. cage. say a human rights say they're a human rights advocacy group . others say they advocacy group. others say they are for are actually apologies for extremist terrorists . they were extremist terrorists. they were obviously involved jihadi obviously involved in the jihadi john and they they i mean, john case, and they they i mean, they were effectively defending jihadi john. so, you know, i think i think people would be quite pleased to see them on on this list. but and they'll sue the and they'll sue. exactly. yeah. yeah. there'll be legal action i think there's a whole minefield ahead. >> but isn't this you >> but isn't this don't you think this a fight the think this is a fight the government want? because they want to they're on want people to think they're on this. they're trying to crack down extremists. fine. good this. they're trying to crack dowin extremists. fine. good this. they're trying to crack dowin the xtremists. fine. good this. they're trying to crack dowin the same sts. fine. good this. they're trying to crack dowin the same process,. good this. they're trying to crack dowin the same process, theyd but in the same process, they have be careful. they're have to be so careful. they're not. they're not shutting down genuine of opinion and genuine freedom of opinion and speech.i genuine freedom of opinion and speech. i mean, difference. >> yeah, but you could just be a dissident against the government
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of the day. genuinely , this of the day. like genuinely, this channel could be under threat if we all start moving towards this mindset that what you say is more important than what you do, but also , i think just if they but also, i think just if they want this fight, it's kind of a strange fight to pick because actually yesterday, because of this rare with, about the tory donor and the racism round. >> yeah, i went to the briefing with 10 after pmqs and it with number 10 after pmqs and it was dominated questions of is was dominated by questions of is hester an extremist? yeah is he is he an extremist? is he an extremist over and over and over again. so they picked this fight. but actually it's slightly backfiring on them. yeah. particularly week. yeah. particularly this week. yeah. particularly this week. yeah. us. yeah. stay with us. >> we've stay there. sam. >> we've just stay there. sam. still come, sir keir starmer still to come, sir keir starmer is setting out his plans to make arts accessible everyone . one arts accessible to everyone. one grown
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mon. -- mon. it's 10 am. on thursday, the 14th of march. this is
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britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> so, extremism going to be redefined. the government is setting a new definition of setting out a new definition of extremism after rise in hate extremism after a rise in hate crimes against jewish people and muslims. tell you muslims. we're going to tell you exactly it's changing and exactly how it's changing and royal rift. >> prince william and harry are set make an appearance to set to make an appearance to honour their mother, princess diana, tonight, but they'll be doing cameron doing so separately. cameron walker more . walker has more. >> both princes committed to honounng >> both princes committed to honouring the legacy of their late mother, but their continued feud threatens to overshadow the events tonight. more details shortly . shortly. >> and two horses have died so far at cheltenham festival. is it time to ban horse racing? we're going to have a debate on that very shortly and any moment now the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is going to set out his plans to ensure that all children have access to the arts. >> i know that andrew is very excited about hearing him speak. >> i just want the maths book pothole. hell, can you believe this? residents including
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including a 101 year old lady, have been told by somerset council to fill the potholes in on their own roads themselves. she's 101. are you plagued by she's101. are you plagued by potholes where you live? i bet you are. that's what keir starmer should be talking about. potholes. bread and butter issue for people watching this program. listening to this program. not the going say every the fact he's going to say every kid can learn music at school and play an instrument where they from. and play an instrument where the you from. and play an instrument where the you know from. and play an instrument where the you know what? from. and play an instrument where the you know what? i from. and play an instrument where the you know what? i thinkm. and play an instrument where the you know what? i think a. and play an instrument where the you know what? i think a lot >> you know what? i think a lot of parents are quite keen on the idea their kids have access idea that their kids have access to but does need to music, but it does need funding, course. and what funding, of course. and what lessons you going take lessons are you going to take them out of while you teach them them out of while you teach them the recorder? gb views at the recorder? quite gb views at gb com is the email gb news. com is the email address. keep thoughts address. keep your thoughts coming this morning. coming in to us this morning. first the very latest first though, the very latest news sam francis. news with sam francis. >> bay of andrew thank you very much. good morning from the gb newsroom. it'sjust much. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 10:00.
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the top story this morning . the the top story this morning. the government has outlined a new definition of extremism , nearly definition of extremism, nearly two weeks after the prime minister warned of forces that he said were trying to tear the country apart. it describes extremism as the promotion or advancement of an ideology that's based on violence, hatred or intolerance . it's intended to or intolerance. it's intended to be used to assess whether groups should be given a platform or receive funding. ministers say britain is facing an increased threat of extremism following the hamas attacks on israel in october. however, church leaders, including the archbishop of canterbury and of york, have warned that the definition could create more division. well, community secretary michael gove told gb news this morning that it's not about silencing those with private or peaceful beliefs . private or peaceful beliefs. >> there is absolutely nothing in this definition or any of the actions that were undertaken that curtails free speech in fact, it's vitally important that all of us uphold free speech. indeed some of the people who are extremists want to close down free debate in
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order to advance their agenda . order to advance their agenda. and this definition is only about access to government money and to government platforms . and to government platforms. >> health news and fewer middle aged people are dying from cancer than at any point in the last 25 years. though researchers are warning cases are still on the rise. deaths among 35 to 69 year olds are down because of better screening and treatment, and fewer people smoking. however, studies show a concerning increase in cancer diagnosis, particularly in prostate, prostate and breast cancen prostate, prostate and breast cancer. experts say it's largely due to lifestyle factors like obesity and alcohol consumption with better intervention, they say around 37,000 cases could be prevented over the next 16 years. china's foreign ministry has criticised a plan in the us to force the owner of tiktok to sell the social media app. the bill, which passed with bipartisan support yesterday, aims to address concerns over the chinese government's
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influence on the algorithm that's behind the video app, which is used by some 170 million people in the us. a spokesperson for china's foreign ministry has described the us plan as unfair, and tiktok ceo shouzi chew says it will reduce competition. >> this legislation, if signed into law, will lead to a ban of tiktok in the united states. even the bill's sponsors admit that that's their goal. this bill gives more power to a handful of other social media companies. it will also take billions of dollars out of the pockets of creators and small businesses. it will put more than 300,000 american jobs at risk and it will take away your tiktok . tiktok. >> in other news, diane abbott has accused both major political parties of failing to tackle racism . writing in the guardian racism. writing in the guardian newspaper today, the independent mp has criticised the commons speaken mp has criticised the commons speaker, sir lindsay hoyle after she wasn't called to speak in parliament yesterday, leaving rishi sunak and sir keir starmer
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to debate comments that were made about her miss abbott's now warning the conservatives will play warning the conservatives will play the race card ruthlessly, she says at the next general election. but she's also taken aim at her former party, labour, describing sir keir starmer's position as disappointing. meanwhile, prime minister is meanwhile, the prime minister is still facing calls to return a £10 million donation that was made by the conservatives biggest donor , frank hester, biggest donor, frank hester, after comments he made about mr abbott were widely seen to be racist . the defence secretary is racist. the defence secretary is urging donald trump not to cut aid to ukraine if he wins the us presidential election in november. speaking exclusively to gb news in poland as he watched uk troops take part in a nato exercise , grant shapps nato exercise, grant shapps warned the former us president that it would be cheaper in the long term to back ukraine. britain has just announced a deal to buy 14 american military helicopters . mr shapps told gb helicopters. mr shapps told gb news that more needs to be spent on defence. >> i actually do have more money than ever before. nonetheless, i
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think it is very important given the pressures the world is unden the pressures the world is under, that we make sure that our adversaries understand we're serious and that does mean, i'm afraid, spending more money in poland here than spending 4% of gdp on the defence. >> and jeremy hunt has admitted that his plan to abolish national insurance won't be possible in the next parliamentary tum. it follows his recent budget , which his recent budget, which outlined a £0.02 reduction in contributions that will start in april with a plan to streamline taxes by eventually eliminating national insurance altogether. but speaking at the treasury committee, the chancellor conceded that removing the payments won't be done in the near future. but it does still remain his long time aspiration . remain his long time aspiration. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gb news common alerts. but now it's back to andrew and . bev.
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andrew and. bev. >> 1007 britain's newsroom tv news with andrew pearson bev turner. >> let's see what you've been saying at home. we're going to be talking about this story a bit later about kev's pick and mix market in suffolk. it's been told it has to go. they're rebranding it as the fresh fair at square. it's all got to at froma square. it's all got to be healthy so pick a mix. be healthy food. so pick a mix. stores gone. robert says. our markets tameside have been markets in tameside have been decimated. market decimated. the revamped market in just isn't in ashton under lyne just isn't the not many people go the same. not many people go there. before was spruced up, there. before it was spruced up, it steve it was really good and steve said my mum buying me said i remember my mum buying me a pick and in 1965. i still a pick and mix in 1965. i still buy one occasionally and i enjoy them while watching the magic roundabout happy roundabout on youtube. happy days! ken i days! long live ken! >> long live jeopardy! >> long live jeopardy! >> but you know you can taste a little sweet like a pick and mix sweet. it does bring back all those memories, doesn't it? it's very sad and, there go. this very sad and, there we go. this is stall. that's his stall. is kev stall. that's his stall. and you can see why possibly the market say, i'm sorry. need market say, i'm sorry. we need we like, fancy wooden. we need, like, fancy wooden. >> want it be a bit more >> they want it to be a bit more glamorous, but, hey, a glamorous, but, hey, it's a
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market stall. at him if market stall. and look at him if you're listening on radio. you're listening on the radio. there with his flat cap on there he is with his flat cap on his glasses, and he looks like nice. >> that's kevin hillier and that is his he's been doing for 24 years selling his pick and mix. he it all through covid. he he did it all through covid. he said was dropping sweets off said he was dropping sweets off at people's doors that they at people's doors so that they could a little treat. could just have a little treat. and taken his and now he's been taken his licence him. it's outrageous. >> there's petition keep it >> there's a petition to keep it going get rid of flower going to get rid of flower stalls next. on facebook? >> terrible, right. let's be joined. now let's introduce our guests the studio. barrister guests in the studio. barrister sam political editor sam fowles and political editor at the daily express. >> sam lister, let's talk to you about this definition of extremism. i are raising extremism. ben and i are raising different as roman different points. so as a roman catholic, too, i catholic, i might say, too, i think is a sin. i was think abortion is a sin. i was brought up to think that if i was to say that, sam, that could fall foul, could potentially fall foul, could it potentially of definition of intolerance of the definition of intolerance under of under this redefinition of extremism. under this redefinition of ext| potentially. that under this redefinition of ext|potentially. that is >> potentially. yes. and that is the problem is the fundamental problem is illustrated the fact that illustrated by the fact that we've been able to come up with so that could so many things that could potentially fall within this, this obviously, this definition. obviously, the government isn't going define government isn't going to define everything as, as
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everything like that as, as extremism, but it means you've got unaccountable civil servants and potentially unaccountable ministers who can decide what happens to be extremism and what what isn't. and that is a recipe for injustice. and we saw this sort of problem happening, for example, in the clapham common vigil for sarah everard that i was involved in the in the inquiry into that when the police were given such a broad description of what sort of protest could be banned, that they essentially had to exercise discretion to decide which ones can be banned within that, that that big description. and they got it wrong in the clapham common. this is the same thing with extremism. it means that essentially politicians and civil servants can pick the people they don't like and label them extremists. >> yeah. sam this isn't going down universally well on the tory benches either, because i talked to some about it this week and they're very anxious about it. >> people do. people are concerned because it is one of those areas where, where does
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this creep, you know, what is the effect? what is the the creep effect? what is the mission on this? know, mission creep on this? you know, you start off with the best of intentions, other intentions, but then other things kind knock on from things kind of knock on from that. they are concerned that. and they are concerned about particularly, as i about that, particularly, as i say, conservative are say, conservative mps who are concerned freedom of concerned about, freedom of speech, issues , those speech, particular issues, those on the right of the party, particularly those on the religious right, because they fear, like you say, andrew, that certain issues could become deemed, intolerant. yeah. >> amazing . sam, it's funny >> it's amazing. sam, it's funny because the papers, like the front page of the telegraph today is saying, go to identify muslim groups as extremists . muslim groups as extremists. that plays well to a that plays very well to a certain part of the electorate . certain part of the electorate. but we to use our but we need to use our imagination. it's not just extremists , is it? it could be a extremists, is it? it could be a legitimate media outlets, independent journalists, also on youtube, etc, who suddenly, because their views don't fit the government of the day are quashed and silenced? >> absolutely. and this is has always been the problem with extremism. extremism is a word that people in power use for the
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opinions of those they don't like. so famous extremists include gandhi , suffrage, include gandhi, suffrage, suffrage campaigners, gay rights campaigners. all of these people have been described as extremists. >> thatcher was an extremist in his day, when he was part of a gay rights group called outrage. yeah, deliberately triggered outrage publicity outrage to try and get publicity for his cause. absolutely. and this he's now national this and now he's now a national treasure . treasure. >> absolutely. and that's why it's whole approach it's this, this whole approach is so, so problematic, right. because, you know, we're analysing this as this, as if it's a really serious piece of policy. but let's remember it's also a piece of politics. this is about creating, ironically creating people creating division, making people scared , making people worried, scared, making people worried, and i think the actual impact of this will be that it increases the risk of extremism, because when you ban people, when you exclude people, when you silence people, that drives them into the arms of the real extremist and the people that genuinely, genuinely are talking about violence, talking about facing, putting a creating a real threat
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to democracy. >> the point i was also trying to make sam to lord walney earlier is that when you when you silence people, you don't know what thinking. i know what they're thinking. i want if i'm in a room of want to know if i'm in a room of racists or if i'm in a room of religious extremists, and this all does. it's pure all it does. it's just pure politicking and i think that makes it worse. it's just policing what people are saying and thinking rather than the actions. why those people actions. why do those people who've got these funds and lord wallace, justification was there is money these extreme is money going to these extreme groups and we need to know who they are. we need to give people they are. we need to give people the knowledge order not the knowledge in order to not have not over that money. have not hand over that money. why they need that knowledge? why do they need that knowledge? can't their common can't they use their common sense? they work out an sense? can't they work out if an organisation doesn't have this country's interests at heart? >> well, is they don't >> well, the fact is they don't need definition. and >> well, the fact is they don't nefact, definition. and >> well, the fact is they don't nefact, it definition. and >> well, the fact is they don't nefact, it was definition. and >> well, the fact is they don't nefact, it was really|ition. and in fact, it was really instructive that michael gove was was interviewed today and he was was interviewed today and he was to give an example of was asked to give an example of someone would caught by someone that would be caught by this justify it. this definition and justify it. and example of and he gave an example of someone who was found by a court to be extremist under the
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existing law. so he's there's not been any sort of case presented about why we need to change this, except for these sort of vague and scary, insinuations about people mainly targeted against people who are protesting against what's going on in gaza and the fact that you can describe these people as extremists when they are essentially in line with what the international court of justice has said and has said. this is an incredibly worrying situation . we want people to be situation. we want people to be worried about this. the people that are protesting aren't extremists. in fact, if you're not protests sting. you've got to really ask why i would disagree with that strongly, but there you go. >> i mean, i think in defence of this, the one thing i would say is actually, many people, most people, i would argue, certainly daily express readers are not happy to see their money, their tax payers money, going to fund groups who support , extremist
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groups who support, extremist protests. and i think the gaza protests. and i think the gaza protests , although largely are protests, although largely are peaceful. we do know that there have been extremists on those. and there are, very visibly extremists on those not called out by the police, not called out by the police, not called out by the police, not called out by the police, the police stand by. let these people continue. most people don't want to see their money going towards funding groups linked to these people. and so i think that is the important bit here. it's about stopping the government, stopping the councils, giving our money to groups that are tangentially linked to extremists. >> let's talk a bit about racism. diane abbott, we know she's been in the eye of this storm after the tory donor, who's not the tories aren't going give the money going to give the money back. they got million to they haven't got 10 million to give frankly, she's they haven't got 10 million to give donefrankly, she's they haven't got 10 million to give done aankly, she's they haven't got 10 million to give done a really she's they haven't got 10 million to give done a really interesting she's done a really interesting piece the independent today piece in the independent today saying, not just saying, actually, it's not just the in the tory party the racism in the tory party she's projecting the she's projecting from within the labour well. sam, a labour party as well. sam, a report done a couple years report done a couple of years ago lawyer, the forde ago by a lawyer, the forde report, about she'd report, talking about how she'd been hideous abuse been subjected to hideous abuse from own side because from when her own side because of her support for jeremy
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corbyn. >> yeah. and i think this is, this is, goes to the heart of it, doesn't it? because when you see political parties attacking each these kind of each other on these kind of issues, find is often issues, what you find is often the as many the attacker has as many problems their backyard problems in their own backyard as the, you know, is the group they're attacking. so i think clearly, diane abbott speaks from great experience. i mean, we that she is the most we know that she is the most abused parliament. she was abused mp in parliament. she was the black woman to be the first black woman to be elected. what with that elected. and what came with that was torrent of abuse for the was a torrent of abuse for the last, you know, 25 years. so she really has been , you know, a really has been, you know, a sufferer of long time abuse and in a way that no other mp has, i think what we say we stay with us. >> us. >> pair of sam's. us. >> pair of sam's . we're going to >> pair of sam's. we're going to cross live now to central london, where i can't wait for this. laying out his vision to make sure the arts are available to everyone , everywhere. here he to everyone, everywhere. here he is. >> will be here today, and there are a lot of people that we need to thank for making all of this possible. bank of america and bloomberg philanthropies for their for today's event,
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their support for today's event, but more importantly, their long standing support for the arts and thanks to the guild hall, of course, as well to jonathan and emily for welcoming us to this wonderful venue. it's been quite a while since i was last here. in fact, if i remember rightly, in fact, if i remember rightly, i was with long hair and flared jeans when i was last here. but for six years of my life, i came here every single week, every saturday, starting when i was 11 years old. i would set off from my village of her screen on the train to london, victoria with my flute under my arm to spend the day here as part of the junior exhibitionist program . junior exhibitionist program. don't. don't worry, i can see i haven't got my flute with me today. i'm not going to. i'm going to subject you to that. but actually listening to that incredible performance just now that we just heard, reminded me
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of the thrill of playing myself at the festival hall , because at the festival hall, because the opportunities that music gave me , my first ever trip gave me, my first ever trip abroad was to malta with the croydon youth philharmonic orchestra , and so you will know orchestra, and so you will know that excitement you feel when you have an encounter with the arts that changes your life. everyone in the room will know that feeling , the sense, that feeling, the sense, i suppose, of being drawn into something that seems bigger than ourselves , of being truly moved ourselves, of being truly moved by a piece of music or a painting or a play, or losing yourself and finding something new in the space that art creates. these encounters , creates. these encounters, enters with art and culture, change us forever . and they change us forever. and they certainly changed me forever . certainly changed me forever. and when i left my little village of hurst green and went to the city of leeds to go to university, i discovered a whole
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new world of indie bands orange juice, wedding present back then with a guitar that was lent by my good friend john and well, that's thrilling, isn't it? >> it's going to get them. that's going to get them really jumping up and down with excitement behind the red wall. sam, you think? sam, don't you think? >> i think, know, to >> well, i think, you know, to be fair, to be fair, i think i actually benefited from learning the violin at my comprehensive school. and it was something that did open some doors to that did open up some doors to me. so i'm very pro. you still play me. so i'm very pro. you still play actually you play it? i do actually do you occasionally and, yeah, occasionally and, and yeah, i dunng occasionally and, and yeah, i during covid i was particularly involved in a group where we went out and played in the open air. oh, so you make me blush now. anyway, so i think it is important to give working class kids the opportunity to play instruments. i think that is actually because, actually important because, culture everybody and it culture is for everybody and it shouldn't just be people at shouldn't just be for people at fee schools, but whether fee paying schools, but whether this going to ignite this is going to ignite excitement ballot box is excitement at the ballot box is a matter. a different matter. >> still think people want to >> i still think people want to get up. we want to know how he's going to find 100,000 kids that
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have disappeared school have disappeared from the school system. have disappeared from the school sys'yeah, that is true, actually. >> yeah, that is true, actually. and really big problem. and it's a really big problem. >> is. it's a really big >> it is. it's a really big standards in reading, writing, arithmetic. rather than arithmetic. yeah. rather than talk music. look, it's arithmetic. yeah. rather than talk worthy,1usic. look, it's arithmetic. yeah. rather than talk worthy, isn't look, it's arithmetic. yeah. rather than talk worthy, isn't it?ok, it's arithmetic. yeah. rather than talk worthy, isn't it? obviously very worthy, isn't it? obviously sam's right. it's good that kids would access, but that would get access, but is that what people really thinking about going about when their kids are going to they're worried about to school? they're worried about standards, enough teachers standards, not enough teachers that school books that can't afford school books let a recorder. let alone buying a recorder. >> i think, you know, >> yeah, i think, you know, saying , is it this going to get saying, is it this going to get people excited? this is the first time, actually, i've first time, actually, that i've been quite excited about a keir starmer hearing starmer government is hearing this policy. you're absolutely right. people are going to right. it's people are going to be worried about the number of teachers. they're worried about investment in schools . that has investment in schools. that has got be priority number one. got to be priority number one. but is great for the but the arts is great for the economy. £2 spent on every £1 spent generates £2 for spent on arts generates £2 for the economy. it makes us smarter because it develops , develops because it develops, develops critical thinking and creativity, it makes us more creativity, and it makes us more competent. i learned a thousand times more from my drama gcse and yes, i did. i'm very happy with it. a thousand times more
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for my drama gcse than my maths gcse that i use in practice as a barrister are you more of an actor or a producer? >> i think we know you're an actor, sam. >> he's a barrister. all actors keir starmer can promise all the musical instruments in the world, but unless he does something smartphones something about smartphones for kids, home and kids, no one will go home and practice half kids practice anything. half the kids don't or practice don't want to play or practice anything now, so, you know, concern yourself with that, right? to come, we're right? still to come, we're going have on this david going to have more on this david versus it's all versus goliath battle. it's all about
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gb news. it's 1023. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news. with bev turner and andrew pierce. what are you doing? >> i'm looking for diane abbott. oh writing about racism. >> just checking in. you? we were telly. do. we've were on the telly. i do. we've got studio now and acas got in the studio now and acas and in the radio broadcast and journalist carole malone and political commentator jonathan lewis in studio . can you help me
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lewis in studio. can you help me keep him under control? >> do you know what, bev, when you were off last week, you did this all the way through the show and just said to him at show and i just said to him at one point, not good enough one point, i'm not good enough to this by myself. so could to do this by myself. so could you doing your other work? you stop doing your other work? >> i've got to find her because she's written about diane abbott has very important has written a very important article we're going article today, but we're going to pick and mix first. >> right. what are we talking about? pick and mix. >> jonathan, i've >> i'm happy. jonathan, i've not met so this very met you before. so this is very exciting right this exciting for me. right this story david versus story is a classic david versus goliath. the big goliath. it is the big corporation down the road. tesco cancel mix. this cancel pick and mix. and this poor market has been poor market trader has now been told to why told he has to go. why >> this i'm unlike some >> so this is. i'm unlike some people are stereotyped on the people or are stereotyped on the left. actually not in left. i actually am not in favour a nanny state at all, favour of a nanny state at all, and i don't banning things and i don't like banning things generally. like generally. i don't like criminalising already. don't criminalising already. i don't like things. like criminalising things. i think that all drugs should be legal, think legal, for example, and i think that should the that people should have the choice. that people should have the choi've right that people should have the cho i've right off you that people should have the choi've right off you now, >> i've gone right off you now, people should have the choice to do put things in do things and to put things in their body, even if and if they're harming themselves. their body, even if and if the that's harming themselves. their body, even if and if thethat's harchoicehemselves. their body, even if and if thethat's harchoicehetheyves. >> that's their choice if they have consent have free and informed consent to so i don't object to to do so. so i don't object to people eating and mix if
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people eating pick and mix if that's want to do. i that's what they want to do. i think that people should be educated dangers of think that people should be eductthe dangers of think that people should be eductthe dangers dangers of think that people should be eductthe dangers ofdangers of think that people should be eductthe dangers of thatars of think that people should be eductthe dangers of that food. that, the dangers of that food. and obviously an obesity and obviously we have an obesity crisis, fundamentally, crisis, etc. but fundamentally, people right people should have the right to buy to sell buy it and to sell it. >> isn't about health. this >> this isn't about health. this is about is trying to make is about this is trying to make it right it look right posher. >> but this about so >> okay. but this is about so what? saxmundham town what? so what saxmundham town council this council is saying is that this market of closure. so market is at risk of closure. so i don't know how how true that is, but that's what they're saying. so if you take it at face value, they're saying the market is a risk of closure and we need to revamp so we can we need to revamp it so we can save why think save it. and that's why we think that fresh fair. so that people want fresh fair. so we're going to fresh we're going to call it fresh fair. and you're going to fair. and if you're going to have market called fresh fair have a market called fresh fair at freeman square, then it is quite have pick and quite difficult to have pick and mix there. let's be honest. quite difficult to have pick and mixdo ere. let's be honest. quite difficult to have pick and mixdo you let's be honest. quite difficult to have pick and mixdo you know3e honest. quite difficult to have pick and mix do you know what1est. quite difficult to have pick and mix do you know what this quite difficult to have pick and mixdo you know what this is quite difficult to have pick and mix do you know what this is to >> do you know what this is to me? is this is a town me? this is this is a town council who was trying to make a more off the market and be more money off the market and be trying it look posher, trying to make it look posher, which people which will freeze out the people of won't be able of that town who won't be able to it. you know, all of to afford it. you know, all of these market towns, people go for good reason, because these market towns, people go for the good reason, because these market towns, people go for the produce reason, because these market towns, people go for the produce isason, because these market towns, people go for the produce is much3ecause these market towns, people go for the produce is much cheaper all the produce is much cheaper fruit is much cheaper.
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fruit and veg is much cheaper. all this, is all of that stuff, this, this is a snobbery and snobbery on a snobbery and a snobbery on the part this council. to part of this council. and to drive an out of drive an old guy out of business, know, pick and mix business, you know, pick and mix is a joy for kids. it's a total delight. it was the most exciting hence exciting part of my youth, hence the forced to turn the fact i was forced to turn overweight. because ate overweight. and because i ate a lot of them, this to me is lot of them, so this to me is just trying to posh up. they just trying to posh it up. they will the people who are will charge the people who are going have stall and going to have their stall and their goods. charge them their goods. they'll charge them more the stall. more money to rent the stall. people not people like this guy are not going to afford it, going to be able to afford it, and make it'll them and it'll make it'll make them as counter posher, but it as a counter look posher, but it will actually punish people will actually punish the people in town. in the town. >> and they're doing i think you're right. you're absolutely right. and they're it though they're doing it though under they're doing it though under the auspices healthy the auspices of healthy eating. they're virtue they're using that virtue signalling. look signalling. you must all look after we want fresh after your health. we want fresh food at fromer square, and i really hate it when people are using this kind of i know what's best for you. we, the council know what's for best your health. and therefore we're going to give you some very expensive organic carrots instead pick and mix. instead of pick and mix. >> i mean, obviously there is a health side to this story, and there's a side of the
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there's a trade side of the story. and, you know, as conservatives, i expect conservatives, i might expect you in of your you to be in favour of your health side. >> there's health side if >> there's only a health side if you the go from the council. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i'm not i'm not here to represent town council. represent any town council. >> worst sort of elitism >> the worst sort of elitism they want this. they don't think it it doesn't get it looks right. it doesn't get sent the right image. and it looks right. it doesn't get sent gotz right image. and it looks right. it doesn't get sent got alljht image. and it looks right. it doesn't get sent got all their|age. and they've got all their alliteration haven't they. fresh food , whatever called. food, whatever it's called. >> area where >> i live in an area where square every saturday they have a they have a fair a food fair. it is outrage. gorgeously expensive for a bit of cheese in this you pay three times this place. you pay three times the price you pay in tesco. and that really. >> which ironic because the >> which is ironic because the whole point markets whole point of markets originally to. they're originally was meant to. they're meant , they're meant to be cheaper, they're meant to be cheaper, they're meant sort of home sourced meant to be sort of home sourced food. obviously supermarkets food. and obviously supermarkets mean agree mean more expensive. so i agree with sure. with that for sure. >> and hoping >> and we are hoping at some point to the guy point to get to talk to the guy who's so. who's been so. >> well, there's >> well, listen, there's a there's a right of reply. saxmundham council. so basically kev's up a facebook kev's daughter set up a facebook page of page raising awareness of the fact her father was going fact that her father was going to his business. they've to lose his business. they've had signatures had thousands of signatures on a petition, now has petition, so the council now has today actions. today defended its actions.
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they've social media they've said the social media response been genuinely response has been genuinely unexpected. i bet it was. and we are taking on board the comments. we are receiving. we sincerely wish that everyone who's with this debate who's engaged with this debate onune who's engaged with this debate online would come out and regularly support their local market. well, that's a good point. despite the success we've received for the monthly saturday not saturday market, this has not carried to wednesday , which carried over to wednesday, which is is on, we are not is when kev is on, we are not well supported by the public. we firmly believe we must act now to save our weekly market, and a focus fresh produce will draw focus on fresh produce will draw in weekday shoppers. in more weekday shoppers. >> well, i hope people in >> well, i hope people go in droves support him. droves to support him. >> so do i. in droves. i think i might make the trip right. >> diane. diane abbott. jonathan. so she is now saying, actually, it's not just the conservative donor who's been racist. i have racism from all angles, including the labour party. she says. in today's independent right. >> so i was i was just told about two minutes ago that we were talking about this. so i was trying the was just trying to read the article that she wrote in the guardian. i didn't quite get
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through but i, through to the end of it, but i, you having not not having through to the end of it, but i, you it, having not not having through to the end of it, but i, you it, i having not not having through to the end of it, but i, you it, i do aving not not having through to the end of it, but i, you it, i do think not not having through to the end of it, but i, you it, i do think it's not having through to the end of it, but i, you it, i do think it's fair having through to the end of it, but i, you it, i do think it's fair to ving read it, i do think it's fair to say that racism is not just a one party issue. i think that's fair. think it manifests fair. i think it's it manifests itself ways. but itself in different ways. but i think everyone should be think that everyone should be alive risks of racism, alive to the risks of racism, the of racism, that the dangers of racism, and that the dangers of racism, and that the way we the way that we the way that we the way that we speak , there's unconscious speak, there's unconscious racism as well. people racism sometimes as well. people don't necessarily know the effect that they have on other people when they speak. i think it's quite sensible to talk about that, particularly when you are a woman who has received so much abuse the years. so much abuse over the years. but i think what we have to isolate from the comments isolate that from the comments that frank hester made, which anybody to anybody would be able to identify and i think identify as racist. and i think it really to the abiding it is really to the abiding shame, the conservative party, they day denying they spent an entire day denying that those comments were racist before kemi badenoch to shame them before you move on to that, go back because we've go back to because we've discussed hester to hell go back to because we've disc back, hester to hell go back to because we've disc back, but hester to hell go back to because we've disc back, but goiester to hell go back to because we've disc back, but go back to hell go back to because we've disc back, but go back to thel and back, but go back to the thing you about everyone thing you said about everyone has aware of the racist has to be aware of the racist comments make. comments they make. >> you imagine diane >> do you imagine the diane abbott aware of the racist abbott is aware of the racist comments has constantly
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comments that she has constantly made over the years, the one where said indian women where she said west indian women make than white make better mothers than white women? where she said make better mothers than white won drivers where she said make better mothers than white wondrivers are where she said make better mothers than white won drivers are racist re she said make better mothers than white wondrivers are racist ,3 she said make better mothers than white won drivers are racist , thee said make better mothers than white won drivers are racist , the one d taxi drivers are racist, the one that she was currently under suspension from the labour party. she still is suspended, where she actually said jewish people do not suffer racism, they suffer prejudice in they only suffer prejudice in they only suffer prejudice in the way that travellers and in the way that travellers and in the way that travellers and in the way irish people do what an outrageous thing to say. what? no, let me finish. what a lack of understanding of what racism is all about. because diane abbott thinks racism only goes is all about. because diane abbiway. iinks racism only goes is all about. because diane abbiway. she racism only goes is all about. because diane abbiway. she thinks only goes is all about. because diane abbiway. she thinks it's.y goes is all about. because diane abbiway. she thinks it's onlyes one way. she thinks it's only white on she doesn't get white on black. she doesn't get it. be the other way it. it can be the other way round. and she doesn't. and she stood she tried to speak stood up and she tried to speak in 40 times. 40 in the commons 40 times. 40 times. up to speak and times. she stood up to speak and thank goodness hoyle thank goodness lindsay hoyle stopped was she stopped her because she was she would be talking about the racism her. is racism comments on her. she is under labour under suspension from the labour party comments. >> but we're not here. but carol, we're not here to talk about what? diane abbott yes, we are in the past because you have to, not in the past. >> this is current, jonathan. this is current. >> a couple of weeks ago it was it was a it was a she was
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suspended obviously. and i was one the first people to one of the first people to condemn that. not defending condemn that. i'm not defending diane abbott's previous comments. i'm comments. i think what i'm saying can separate saying is that we can separate things two things can be things out. two things can be true time. someone true at the same time. someone might said things which are might have said things which are offensive they might be offensive and they might also be the do you not the victim of racism. do you not think it's a bit about one of those things? think it's a bit about one of tho do :hings? think it's a bit about one of tho do youis? think it's a bit about one of tho do you not think there's >> do you not think there's a hypocrisy involved her hypocrisy involved in her talking when in talking about racism, when in fact inflicted racism on fact she has inflicted racism on other herself? how other people herself? how did the people feel? the the jewish people feel? the people she has don't people that she has said don't suffer racism? >> , i'm jewish myself, and >> well, i'm jewish myself, and i terrible when i think it's terrible when someone that they that someone says that they that a woman makes them want shoot woman makes them want to shoot the hate all black women and that she should be shot. it's terribly offended by that. it doesn't matter. >> you're offended what's doesn't matter. >> y(happeningfended what's doesn't matter. >> y(happening on ded what's doesn't matter. >> y(happening on these what's doesn't matter. >> y(happening on these marches doesn't matter. >> y(iyou ening on these marches doesn't matter. >> y(iyou know,on these marches doesn't matter. >> y(iyou know, you1ese marches doesn't matter. >> y(iyou know, you know,iarches where you know, you know, kill jews. you're offended by that. >> well, i don't words in my >> well, i don't put words in my mouth, of course i'm mouth, carol. of course i'm afraid asking you because, afraid i'm asking you because, well, obviously, i like any sensible person, be sensible person, would be offended kill any offended by a call to kill any group any individual for that group or any individual for that matter. of course that's not. it's a kind gotcha. of it's not a kind of gotcha. of course that's no one is
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course that's wrong. no one is denying there is minority denying that there is a minority of those, and of opinion in those, and a minority of slogans , placards, minority of slogans, placards, etc, which are completely unacceptable. no one is denying that what is at issue in the marches is whether they can be characterised as hate marches. i completely reject but completely reject that. but that's what we're talking that's not what we're talking about. we're talking about what this five years ago. this donor said five years ago. that kind where the that is the kind where the conservative returned the conservative party returned the money. interesting. >> reject that. >> you completely reject that. i do interesting that do think it's interesting that she this article today she has, in this article today in the guardian, said she in the guardian, has said she has subjected to wicked has been subjected to wicked racism within the labour racism from within the labour party . party. >> are. we have to move on. >> we are. we have to move on. i'm so we've got sam i'm so sorry. we've got sam francis waiting very patiently in newsroom. we're late in the newsroom. we're late for him. i would is look at him. all i would say is look at the front benches. if you think politics not politics is racist, it is not right. time for your morning's news francis. news with sam francis. >> bev and andrew. thank you very much. it's just gone 1030, and we start with some breaking news coming out of the old bailey this morning. you may remember the case of schoolgirl euanne
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remember the case of schoolgirl elianne andam. she was 15 when she was murdered in south london. well, this morning, a boy has denied her murder. the 17 year old suspect, who can't be identified because of his age, pleaded not guilty to murder in court. instead, he admitted manslaughter. aliens attacker was wearing gloves and attacker was wearing gloves and a mask while he stabbed her when she was on her way to school while meeting two friends in south london last year, he used a large knife, according to reports. his plea was not accepted by prosecutors and a trial will now take place from november. the 25th. the government has outlined a new definition of extremism nearly two weeks after the prime minister warned of forces that he said were trying to tear the country apart. it's intended to be used to assess whether groups should be given a platform or receive funding. ministers say britain facing increased britain is facing an increased threat of extremism following the hamas attacks on israel in
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october. however, church leaders, including the archbishops of canterbury and york, have warned that the definition could create more division . diane abbott has division. diane abbott has accused both major political parties of failing to tackle racism . writing in the guardian racism. writing in the guardian today, the independent mp criticised the commons speaker after she wasn't called to speak in parliament yesterday . it left in parliament yesterday. it left rishi sunak and sir keir starmer to debate in common in the commons about the comments that were made about her. it's after the prime minister faced calls to return a £10 million donation made the conservatives made by the conservatives biggest donor, frank hester, after comments made about mr after comments he made about mr abbott were widely seen to be racist . and finally, some royal racist. and finally, some royal news. the prince of wales and the duke of sussex are set to attend an awards ceremony in honour of their late mother, princess diana . prince william princess diana. prince william will make an appearance in person. the diana legacy awards later this evening. however, it's reported the brothers won't
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cross paths with prince harry, joining via video call only after william has left the ceremony . meanwhile, the ceremony. meanwhile, the princess of wales, kate middleton, has been crowned britain's favourite royal in a survey conducted before the recent photo editing controversy . for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , the gb news financial report, and here's a look at the markets this morning. >> the pound will buy you $1.2815 and ,1.1718. the price of gold is £1,693.13 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7771 points. >> rosalind gold proudly
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sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> up next, is it time to ban horse racing? well, two horses have died at cheltenham festival so far this this year, but first in a new gb news series , in a new gb news series, innovation britain. we'll look at the success of british manufacturing around the country i >> -- >> today we are at middlesex aerospace in basingstoke and i'm joined by lawrence fold, the owner of the business, and i want to find out, lawrence, why engineering is so important to the uk. >> well, engineering and aerospace engineering in particular produces a whole series of very well paid, interesting jobs , the products interesting jobs, the products that were made in this factory, ultimately speaking , pretty much ultimately speaking, pretty much all go abroad, even though they're integrated into systems
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in this country. but they'll wind up in airbus, boeing and other major aircraft facilities around the world. so exporting is really important. >> are we becoming competitive globally? >> we have we remain competitive globally , just because areas globally, just because areas have got, have got cheap labour, it doesn't mean that they're very good at producing sophisticated components. and it's that that we do here is to produce technology at the very high, high end of, of manufacturing . manufacturing. >> and how are we addressing the skills gap and how important is this ? this? >> we've had our own apprenticeship every apprenticeship programme every year continue year since 1950. so we continue to train here, train our own apprentices and build up, build up the skills of our own, of our own people and that's been really key to our success over the years, and as a national, as a national thing, training and education for, for all of people is for all of our people is very important. i mean, it's very much a truth to say that if you think education is expensive, try ignorance
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i >> -- >> 1041 you're with britain's gb >> 1041you're with britain's gb newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so, we've got a few of your views here this morning. let's have a look at what you've been saying, a few of you actually are making taking issue with this idea that keir starmer would be making everybody, arts and all the children at school, music , music for everybody. it's music, music for everybody. it's sort of like the sound of music vision is what he's selling to the nation. and a few people saying, actually , what is he saying, actually, what is he going to, what about the children that don't want to play musical instruments? what do they musical instruments? what do the there'll a lot of them. >> there'll be a lot of them. >> there'll be a lot of them. >> be lot of a lot of >> it'll be a lot of a lot of them. >> people who don't want to even go music lessons. go to music lessons. >> a waste of money. now it's
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the day of cheltenham the third day of cheltenham festival, and already two horses have estimated have died >> it's estimated 76 have died at cheltenham 2000. so at cheltenham since 2000. so there saying it's there are people saying it's time it. well, joining us time to ban it. well, joining us now is a representative from the animal welfare charity peter rupinski and racing commentator richard you richard hoiles. reuben, to you first. you think be first. do you think it should be banned? well thank you for having me on, well, horse racing is and deadly is a shameful and deadly spectacle. horses, a race literally deaths . just literally to their deaths. just so that a jockey or trainer can collect some prize money or someone else can get some fleeting from placing fleeting excitement from placing a l fleeting excitement from placing a , these horses, you know, a bet, these horses, you know, 76, as say, have died since 76, as you say, have died since 2000. two died just this week. countless others get injured. these horses are dying for nothing more than our entertainment. and it has to stop now, richard, if you'd like to respond to that. >> as a horse racing commentator i >> -- >> yeah. -_ >> yeah. of course. and welcome, reuben. we very much , enjoy the reuben. we very much, enjoy the rights to debate . those numbers rights to debate. those numbers do need to be put into context. you mentioned the 76. there have been 30,000 horses that have run at the cheltenham festival or at
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cheltenham since that period. the fatality rate is 0.4. so 99.6% of horses come back perfectly healthy. and i think the thing that racing people really just find hard to get across is we love horses too, they are equine athletes. it is extremely important that they are cared for beautifully from cradle right the way through to their passing. and part of that is within the racing industry. and, you know , it is fundamental and, you know, it is fundamental that welfare is the centre of racing going forward. in the old days, horses were part of society. these days, people in urban areas don't see horses. they don't see racing. they don't appreciate that many, many people , irrespective of betting, people, irrespective of betting, get benefit from get a lot of benefit from working with these animals and producing them to do their best. so i understand the concerns. so i do understand the concerns. racing to completely racing needs to be completely transparent, to suggest they transparent, but to suggest they just run around a field for someone's entertainment someone's private entertainment is a way from them. is quite a long way from them. >> if you look at those >> reuben, if you look at those pictures cheltenham festival, pictures of cheltenham festival, thousands the
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thousands of people enjoying the spectacle , well, a huge amount spectacle, well, a huge amount of money made for the area and for all of the industries which are associated with horse racing . and as you've just heard there, the fatality rate of the horses is absolutely tiny. it would be ridiculous , wouldn't would be ridiculous, wouldn't it, to ban this incredible event. all of these events, for the sake of a tiny number of horses who very sadly lose their lives? >> well, obviously you bring up that statistic , but even one that statistic, but even one horse dying because people find it entertaining or because we make some money for it is one horse too many. and we know that across year, horses die across the year, 200 horses die in in the uk , not in horse racing in the uk, not to the thousands that to mention the thousands that the industry to the racing industry sends to slaughter every single year, which included which obviously aren't included in statistic . in that statistic. >> but i just get that straight back with that because 90,000, there are 90,000 racecourse appearances and this myth that hundreds of racehorses end up in abattoirs completely abattoirs was completely incorrect . racing's made great incorrect. racing's made great strides and strides through passporting and microchipping to ensure now that we can trace horses right the way through and these numbers
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are around, were are bandied around, there were 82 horses that came from gb and ireland ended within ireland that ended up within abattoirs , but one of those came abattoirs, but one of those came from a background. i do from a racing background. i do understand concerns, but understand rubens concerns, but this has to all this racing has to sign out all racing sourced from the food chain and this myth about them being taken to abattoirs as soon as their racing careers is over is not targets with is just not fair. targets with other stuff. but that is just completely unfair. just completely unfair. ruben. just to ask you a question, ruben, so i just understand whether not i just understand whether or not ruben of horses ruben you're in favour of horses as whole being ridden. i'm as a whole being ridden. i'm just understand sort just trying to understand sort of peter's concept on this. are you horses? you in favour of horses? you know, or you know, being ridden or do you feel that's right ? feel that's not right? >> look, we're here to talk about horses that are being raised. being, know, raised. they're being, you know, forced breeders raised. they're being, you know, forcchurning breeders raised. they're being, you know, forcchurning out breeders raised. they're being, you know, forcchurning out these reeders raised. they're being, you know, forcchurning out these horses! raised. they're being, you know, forcchurning out these horses to are churning out these horses to produce a winner. not every single one of them is going to be fast enough. and so what, 12,000 are bred into 12,000 horses are bred into britain ireland every britain and ireland every single year. britain and ireland every single year . only about 40% of those go year. only about 40% of those go on race. so you're now left on to race. so you're now left with 60% of that 12,000 facing an uncertain fate. we do know that some are sent to slaughter,
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we do know that many face neglect, you know, if they don't go on to race, and then, you know, we only need to look at the horse rescue centres, which are absolutely flooded with horses on them by the horses dumped on them by the industry scale of industry to see the scale of neglect there. >> a question, though, >> it's a good question, though, isn't whether you do isn't it, ruben? whether you do just of horses being just disapprove of horses being fidden just disapprove of horses being ridden answer the ridden. just to answer the question, i think it's a fair one. yeah. >> i mean, horses aren't just, you , playthings that you know, playthings that are here use, you know, here for us to use, you know, naturally they would live in large herds roaming across large spaces , making their own spaces, making their own decisions, but for the racing industry , well, for the racing industry, well, for the racing industry, well, for the racing industry, when they're not racing, often spend hours racing, they often spend hours on end in isolation. if they're exploited for breeding, they may spend years on end in isolation. there's nothing funny about that in large herds making their own decisions. >> okay, so this large herd can just cross a road, then cross a busy motorway. i mean, these horses are brought up in fantastic conditions. i've been to these stables. they to some of these stables. they live the life of luxury, very well and they're very well loved, and they're very well loved, and they're very
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well and they're they've well loved, and they're very welcompanionship,y're they've well loved, and they're very welcompanionship, not they've well loved, and they're very welcompanionship, not theythe got companionship, not just the staff after them, but staff to look after them, but their fellow horses. richard. that's right, isn't it? >> yeah, i would, that's the point for us that are involved in the industry. being in the industry. we're being painted people who painted as sort of people who absolutely horses, but painted as sort of people who abs exactly horses, but painted as sort of people who abs exactly opposite , but it's exactly the opposite is true. employment for true. it provides employment for people it much more people who find it much more comfortable be in you comfortable to be in a, you know, country environment know, a country environment working in working with animals. so in a way, we're the same page as way, we're on the same page as ruben. way, we're on the same page as ruben . and racing welfare ruben. and racing has welfare right it's so right at its core. it's so important in order to get the social licence for the sport to continue. so in some ways very similar, but we just are not in agreement horses shouldn't similar, but we just are not in ag|riddent horses shouldn't similar, but we just are not in ag|ridden or horses shouldn't similar, but we just are not in ag|ridden or thatorses shouldn't similar, but we just are not in ag|ridden or that they'relouldn't similar, but we just are not in ag|ridden or that they're forcedt be ridden or that they're forced to who does to do anything. anyone who does ride that you can't really ride knows that you can't really force horse something, force a horse to do something, that wants and it's that it wants to, and it's capable making its own capable of making its own decisions, it's being in decisions, whether it's being in a herd or whether it's actually being a human. being ridden by a human. >> i want to take own >> so i want to take their own decisions here. >> so i want to take their own decwens here. >> so i want to take their own decwe okay, �*e. >> so i want to take their own decwe okay, well, thank so >> we okay, well, thank you so much. both i'm sorry, i'm sorry. thank you. babe >> richard richard, >> that was richard richard, horse commentator. >> that was richard richard, horse ruben�*mmentator. >> that was richard richard, horse ruben�*mmentfrom peter. >> and ruben skates from peter. i do think that was a pretty extraordinary. >> that was terribly >> i'm sorry. that was terribly impolite. idea that
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impolite. but the idea that horses be to make horses should be free to make their decisions, whereas their own decisions, whereas we can't. sorry. can't. i know, i'm sorry. up next, and paid next, prince and harry paid tribute to their mum tonight. there won't be the
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news. >> now, any doubts whether the rift between prince harry and prince william continues will disappear tonight? because they are both paying tribute to their mother. but they won't be sharing the same stage, and they won't even be together virtually. right. virtually. that's right. >> harry, of course, lives in california. to california. he's going to be making appearance by video. making an appearance by video. so us in the studio to so joining us in the studio to explain our royal explain more is our royal commentator, cameron walker. so was cameron as the was this billed cameron as the two honouring their two brothers honouring their mother. hasn't turned out mother. and it hasn't turned out like that. >> well, this is absolutely extraordinary. this is the 25th anniversary of the diana legacy awards. i think the last time they appeared happily together, william harry, was 2017, i william and harry, was 2017, i believe. we've got some photographs looking photographs of that looking pretty happy. but ever since then, either harry's been in
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california or they have not appeared together. so this year, unfortunately, is no different. and it's just highlighting that rift the two of them, rift between the two of them, prince william being there in person, delivering speech at person, delivering the speech at science the science science museum at the science museum the museum tonight, presenting the awards , and then prince harry awards, and then prince harry not appearing william has not appearing until william has left the building. so harry is being virtually on. i'm sorry. >> that is disrespectful to their mother, isn't it? >> i think lot of people, i >> i think a lot of people, i think a lot people this think a lot of people this morning will asking, what morning will be asking, what would princess diana think of the continuing feud, the two sons continuing to feud, heartbroken. perhaps heartbroken. i think perhaps your mum. yeah. >> the were so close , >> and the boys were so close, brought even closer, of course, after the death of their mother . after the death of their mother. i mean, we know it's all broken down since meghan, but you'd have thought they could put on show. >> i think what this does show is that both william and harry, their legacy have their mother's legacy have really rubbed off on them. so the whole awards is promoting diana's belief that young people have the power to change the world better. and harry world for the better. and harry and william, they're and william, although they're not they are
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not appearing together, they are still both determined to take part way. the part in some way. but the problem is, whoever's it problem is, whoever's fault it is happening. it's is for this happening. it's completely overshadowing from the whole point of the awards and diana's because all and diana's legacy, because all people talking about, as you people are talking about, as you say, andrew, feud between say, andrew, is the feud between the yeah say, andrew, is the feud between the they yeah say, andrew, is the feud between the they theireah knocked >> they need their heads knocked together, although very difficult. montecito difficult. if one's in montecito and one's windsor. and one's in windsor. >> of thinking about >> i'm sort of thinking about the family and there? the royal family and is there? they strong woman, don't they need a strong woman, don't they? life to get them they? in their life to get them together, clear air? it's together, to clear the air? it's often matriarchs and the often the matriarchs and the family that will sit them down at this. at a time like this. >> i think more and more now we're seeing we're feeling more and absence the and more. the absence of the late queen, ruled with late queen, who ruled with wisdom. but she was also tough. we know and she was very we know that, and she was very good enabling and bringing good at enabling and bringing together. mean, would , together. and i mean, would, would, would. it's just how would, would. it's just how would she feel? >> well , i would she feel? >> well, i think that william and harry both had great respect for the late queen and would listen to her advice. i think when it comes to the next generation, because of the history of relationship history of the relationship between william and his father and and father ,
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and harry and his father, perhaps is not as well. there's certainly a strong bond. but in terms of listening to advice, i think they're very much on their own paths at the moment. and prince william, think in prince william, i think in particular, he knows he's future king. he clearly has his way of doing things and he's not going to be dictated to with what he's going to do. it's about compromise . compromise. >> shouldn't it be about compromise? >> and we have to compromise now by saying goodbye to cameron, just for now. don't go anywhere. if aged, looking if you're middle aged, looking to news. to buying a house. bad news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on gb news. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. most of us will see a bit of rain today, but across eastern england it may well stay mostly dry. and that's where we'll see some pretty high temperatures as well. pressure though, is well. low pressure though, is still our weather still controlling our weather and two weather fronts are and these two weather fronts are moving both moving across the country, both providing some outbreaks of
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rain. persistent rain through central and southern scotland . central and southern scotland. song central and southern scotland. soggy afternoon here, a bit soggy old afternoon here, a bit of on the tops of of snow, likely on the tops of the hills, but much of the highlands. the northern isles will dry bright and will stay dry and bright and mostly across east anglia in mostly dry across east anglia in the south—east, although we will see lots more cloud coming in but showery rain for wales and southwest at southwest england. look at the temperature though, for england southwest england. look at the tem wales.e though, for england southwest england. look at the tem wales. very jgh, for england southwest england. look at the tem wales. very mild or england southwest england. look at the tem wales. very mild or withand and wales. very mild 16 with a bit brightness. could bit of brightness. we could reach feeling reach 17 celsius. feeling cold though that persistent rain though with that persistent rain over central belt of scotland, that linger through that rain does linger through much of tonight as well. more showers to come for northern ireland. there'll be some showery england and showery rain for england and wales, then through the wales, and then through the second of the night second half of the night we'll see heavier rain coming second half of the night we'll see wales,eavier rain coming second half of the night we'll see wales, andzr rain coming second half of the night we'll see wales, and the in coming into wales, and the far southwest have the southwest may have the odd rumble of thunder mixed in with that. another mild night, that. another pretty mild night, certainly and wales. certainly for england and wales. a of chilly in the far a bit of a chilly one in the far north scotland , where the north of scotland, where the winds are coming in the winds are coming in from the north, still providing bit north, still providing a bit of snow tops of hills. snow over the tops of the hills. another fairly for another fairly damp day for scotland. showery scotland. some heavy, showery rain along m4 and the m25 rain along the m4 and the m25 early friday that will clear early on friday that will clear away, we're left with a
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away, and then we're left with a mixture bright or sunny mixture of bright or sunny spells, plenty of showers spells, but plenty of showers to come well . again fairly mild come as well. again fairly mild across england and though across england and wales, though it breezier. another it will be breezier. another pretty in scotland . pretty chilly one in scotland. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> still to come, michael gove, the community secretary, has warned name and shame extremist groups are all to do with the redefinition of extremism. we'll bnng redefinition of extremism. we'll bring that as soon it bring you that as soon as it happens. you're with happens. you're live with britain's gb
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channel. at 11 am. on thursday, the 14th of march. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner. >> thank you very much for joining this morning. so the joining us this morning. so the government set new government has set out a new definition of extremism after a rise jews definition of extremism after a rise muslims. jews definition of extremism after a rise muslims. michael jews definition of extremism after a rise muslims. michael gove ews definition of extremism after a rise muslims. michael gove ,ws definition of extremism after a rise muslims. michael gove , mp, and muslims. michael gove, mp, will set the list of will set out the list of extremist groups live at 1130
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and the halifax is set to impose and the halifax is set to impose a 70 year old age limit on thousands of older mortgage borrowers. >> this means higher monthly payments for many smart business or unfair, particularly on middle aged home buyers. >> and prince william and harry are set to make an appearance to honour their mother, princess diana, tonight , but they will do diana, tonight, but they will do so separately . so separately. >> pothole hill residents, including one lady who is 101, say somerset council has told them to fill in their own potholes on their roads. are you plagued by potholes where you live ? live? she was interviewed by jacob rees—mogg last night and terrific. and she's 101. her terrific. and she's101. her husband's 93, very happily married , but a bit too old, i married, but a bit too old, i think, to fill in potholes themselves. >> absolutely. and frankly, should we be filling in our own potholes and we're paying our
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taxes so that our councils can do the work for us? it feels like a very low bar. >> these are bread and butter issues that ministers and politicians should be talking about. >> let us know your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. first though, the very latest news with francis. with sam francis. >> bev and andrew thank you very much. good afternoon. from the good morning it says good afternoon. it's definitely the morning and it's just gone 11:00 leading morning. leading the news this morning. the has outlined a the government has outlined a new definition of extremism. nearly two weeks after the prime minister warned of forces that he says were trying to tear us apart. describes extremism as apart. it describes extremism as the promotion or advancement of an ideology that's based on violence, hatred or intolerance. it's intended to be used to assess whether groups should be given a platform or receive funding. ministers say britain is an increased threat of is facing an increased threat of extremism following the hamas attacks on israel in october. however, church leaders,
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including the archbishops of canterbury and york, have warned that the definition could create more division. communities secretary michael gove told gb news this morning that it's not about silencing those with private and peaceful beliefs. absolutely nothing in this definition or any of the actions that were undertaken that curtails free speech. >> in fact, it's vitally important that all of us uphold free speech. indeed, some of the people who are extremists want to close down free debate in order to advance their agenda. and this definition is only about access to government money and to government platforms . and to government platforms. >> fewer middle aged people are dying from cancer than at any point in the last 25 years, though researchers are warning that cases are still on the rise. deaths among 35 to 69 year olds are down because of better screening and treatment, and fewer people smoking. however studies show a concerning increase in cancer diagnosis , increase in cancer diagnosis, particularly in prostate and
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breast cancer experts say it's largely due to lifestyle factors, including obesity , high factors, including obesity, high alcohol consumption and others with better intervention . they with better intervention. they say around 37,000 cases could be prevented over the next 16 or so years . prevented over the next 16 or so years. china's foreign ministry has criticised a new plan in the us to force the owner of tiktok to sell the social media app. the bill, which passed with bipartisan support yesterday, aims to address concerns over the chinese government's influence on the algorithm that's behind the video app, which is used by some 170 million people in the us alone . million people in the us alone. a spokesperson for china's foreign ministry described the plan as unfair. tiktok ceo shouzi chew says it will reduce competition. >> this legislation , if signed >> this legislation, if signed into law, will lead to a ban of tiktok in the united states. even the bill's sponsors admit that that's their goal. this bill gives more power to a handful of other social media
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companies. it will also take billions of dollars out of the pockets of creators and small businesses . it will put more businesses. it will put more than 300,000 american jobs at risk, and it will take away your tiktok back here in the uk. >> diane abbott has accused both major political parties of failing to tackle racism. writing in the guardian today, the independent mp has criticised the commons speaker after she wasn't called to speak in parliament yesterday. it left rishi sunak and sir keir starmer to debate comments made about her. mr abbott's now warning that the conservatives will play the race card ruthlessly, she says at the next general election. but she's also taken aim at her former party, labour, describing sir keir starmer's position as disappointing. it's after the prime minister faced calls to return a £10 million donation that was made by the conservatives biggest donor, frank hester, after comments he made about mr abbott were widely seen as racist . well, a large seen as racist. well, a large fire has forced residents to
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flee a high rise block of flats in edinburgh around 70 firefighters with 12 fire engines and specialist resources have been battling the blaze since the early hours of this morning . we understand that morning. we understand that other emergency services are still on scene , providing still on the scene, providing support and assistance to those who've homes affected support and assistance to those wh that homes affected support and assistance to those wh that fire, homes affected support and assistance to those wh that fire, the homes affected support and assistance to those wh that fire, the defence affected by that fire, the defence secretary is urging donald trump not to cut aid to ukraine if he wins the us presidential election. speaking exclusively to gb news in poland as he watched uk troops take part in a nato exercise, grant shapps warned the former president that it would be cheaper in the long term to back ukraine. britain has just announced a new deal to buy 14 american helicopters. mr shapps told gb news that more needs to be done to spend on defence. >> i actually do have more money than ever before. >> none the less i think it is very important given the pressures the world is under, that we make sure that our adversaries understand we're serious and that does mean , i'm
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serious and that does mean, i'm afraid, spending more money in poland here than spending 4% of gdp on their defence. >> and finally, gardeners tackling slugs and snails are apparently being urged to make peace with the slippery garden grubs. the royal horticulture society is partnering with the wildlife trust to change the perception of the bugs. they've long been seen as gardeners, worst enemies , due to their worst enemies, due to their appetite for chomping through the leaves of prized blooms in your back garden. but experts say that out of 150 species, only a small few pose any threat to the garden. they say they're actually an essential part of our ecosystem, feeding on rotting plants and recycling nutrients back into the soil . nutrients back into the soil. who knew? for the latest stories , you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts. but now it's back to andrew and . bev.
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back to andrew and. bev. >> what's the time? it is 11:07 years. britain's new ss1 gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. >> so do you think there should be an limit on mortgages? be an age limit on mortgages? well, halifax seem to so. well, halifax seem to think so. they're imposing a 70 year age limit of home limit on thousands of home buyers move to rein in buyers in a move to rein in risky lending. >> this is going to affect people who 45 or if they want people who 45 or 50 if they want a 25 year mortgage. >> is pretty bad >> this is pretty bad news. outrageous savvy from >> this is pretty bad news. out bank. |s savvy from >> this is pretty bad news. out bank. well, savvy from >> this is pretty bad news. out bank. well, our'vy from >> this is pretty bad news. out bank. well, our economics om the bank. well, our economics and business editor, liam halligan has all the details. he's westminster studio. he's in our westminster studio. liam, i right? if you're liam, am i right? if you're a lot of people now, i bought my first. i was very lucky when i was 21. these days people are lucky if they can afford to buy a house sometimes when they're 3540. so this age limit could be problematic . problematic. >> i agree, i was surprised when i saw this from the halifax. >> you know the halifax tends to has a has a reputation. it was obviously founded as a mutual rather than a bank, a building society back in the day. it has
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a reputation for being very customer friendly , a bit less, customer friendly, a bit less, hard nosed , if you like, than hard nosed, if you like, than many other commercial lenders. but i agree with you, andrew. when you have so many youngsters struggling to get on the housing ladden struggling to get on the housing ladder, an age limit on a mortgage does , you know, put the mortgage does, you know, put the squeeze on, i mean, back in the mid 90s when i bought my first property without sounding smug about it, at 25 to 34 year olds, 60% of them owned their own homes. now, 25 to 34 year olds, it's well under 30. so a huge swathe now of the uk population at that crucial family forming age. when you get together, you settle down. you have kids. they're not owning their own home, they're in rental accommodation. a lot of them are still living with their parents. it's no wonder our fertility is falling. andrew. it's no wonder the uk's in indigenous, if you like, population is failing to
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grow because so few kids are big part of it. so few young adults, are able to take the natural step , which for you and me was step, which for you and me was very natural. we went from flashy, wealthy backgrounds , flashy, wealthy backgrounds, were we, andrew? yet it was natural that we would own our own home. that is the british dream. and yet, if you look across the numbers now , the uk across the numbers now, the uk population, home ownership in this country is below the average of all the european union countries combined. so we're not any longer a nation of home owners. the way we were. home ownership is very high among people aged 60 plus. there are more homes now in the uk that are owned outright with no mortgage than are owned with a mortgage, and people tend to own homes with mortgages when they're younger. of course, because it takes 25 years plus to pay off your mortgage under most circumstances. so it did surprise me that the halifax had
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done this. i'm sure they've got good financial reasons why they seem to just turn the screw a little bit more on that. well, you know what we call generation rent, you know , many young rent, you know, many young people, even with professional jobs, two young people with degrees and working really hard, really struggling to get on the housing ladder in many , many housing ladder in many, many parts of the country. now, this is not just london and the south east. >> why why, liam, what's their logic? we've got to use our imagination in situations like this. where this go ? why this. where does this go? why are halifax doing this? because i they're going i imagine they're going to be the first many. the first of many. >> i can only put it down to. they must think that there's some kind of financial risk to this , that's the only reason this, that's the only reason i can ican this, that's the only reason i can i can come up with. i don't have an insight into their thinking in particular, but looking from the outside, bev, i think that must be the reason. but, look, it strikes me that home ownership, housing as a whole is the great. it's the dog
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that hasn't yet barked in british politics. you know, the media talks endlessly about identity politics. the media talks endlessly about foreign policy and wars and so on. and, you know, political , gossip. you know, political, gossip. and, you know, all these things are important. i'm not denigrating that at all. and, you know, i, you know , i cover you know, i, you know, i cover some of that kind of stuff myself. but for so many ordinary people, it's all about, you know, the cost of living . it's know, the cost of living. it's all about your housing. can my kids get a house? can they buy a house? can they rent a house? can they get a, you know, a social housing from a housing association or a local authority, a council house? we're not really focusing enough on these big issues. in my view , on these big issues. in my view, particularly housing, you know, ask people under 35 what really matters to them in politics. and they might talk about the environment. they might talk about, other issues of social justice, but they will almost certainly talk about housing.
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and it strikes me that the government of many, you know, all colours haven't focussed on this enough. and it strikes me also that the halifax, they've made this decision, they seem to be the first to put their head above parapet. you know, above the parapet. you know, with the best will in the world. i've lot of respect for i've got a lot of respect for the get some, the halifax. they may get some, some, pushback on some, some sort of pushback on this . this. >> e- e all right. this. >> all right. thank you. >> okay. all right. thank you. liam halifax liam halligan a halifax spokesman these changes spokesman has said these changes have been made as part of a regular review of our lending criteria will we can criteria and will ensure we can continue lend responsibly to continue to lend responsibly to a broad range of customers. >> another attack on older >> it's another attack on older people, ? people, isn't it? >> it is, but it's also >> well, it is, but it's also about fact that there are about the fact that there are big funds, big wealth funds and banks are buying houses and then renting them back . that's what renting them back. that's what this is about 2030. you'll own nothing. you'll be happy . and nothing. you'll be happy. and unfortunately, i don't think people will be happy . people will be happy. >> i think it's so different. >> i think it's so different. >> honestly, when i bought my house when i was 21, 22, i mean, the house cost me £19,000, i know, and could borrow two know, and you could borrow two and a half times your income. and had a lodger. yeah
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and i had to take a lodger. yeah but was able get my foot on but i was able to get my foot on the really young kept the ladder really young and kept it ladder. very lucky. it on that ladder. very lucky. very, lucky. very, very lucky. >> e i'iow. very, very lucky. >> now. and what >> doesn't happen now. and what does that means you does that mean? that means you have generation have a generation of young people hopeless, and people who feel hopeless, and that who is that is the generation who is sat home and not going to sat at home and not going to work. and talk about them a lot. >> we do now, still lot. >> we cgove,, still lot. >> we cgove, the ll lot. >> we cgove, the community michael gove, the community secretary. it secretary. we didn't think it was but apparently secretary. we didn't think it wa is but apparently secretary. we didn't think it wa is going but apparently secretary. we didn't think it wa is going to but apparently secretary. we didn't think it wa is going to name ut apparently secretary. we didn't think it wa is going to name me.)parently secretary. we didn't think it wa is going to name me. shame.' he is going to name me. shame. the the government the groups that the government have are extremists. have decided are extremists. he's them the he's going to name them in the commons bring that commons and we'll bring you that live.
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1116 britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner bev turner was talking at the time. sorry. >> we're all talking new guest, jonathan. >> jonathan, who's a certain time and carole malone. >> you. time and carole malone. >> it's you. time and carole malone. >> it's nice you. time and carole malone. >> it's nice to you. time and carole malone. >> it's nice to be you. time and carole malone. >> it's nice to be back. you. >> it's nice to be back. >> it's nice to be back. >> right before we to you >> right before we come to you two, got to listen from two, we've got to listen from defence grant shapps. two, we've got to listen from defspoke grant shapps. two, we've got to listen from defspoke to grant shapps. two, we've got to listen from defspoke to gb grant shapps. two, we've got to listen from defspoke to gb newsnt shapps. two, we've got to listen from defspoke to gb news exclusively . he spoke to gb news exclusively. he spoke to gb news exclusively. he urged trump not to cut he urged donald trump not to cut
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aid ukraine wins the aid to ukraine if he wins the next election. here he is. >> well, look, i think it's undeniably a more dangerous world. got in world. we've got a war in europe. we've a conflict in europe. we've got a conflict in the middle east. you've the the middle east. you've seen the uk involved in the middle east with the houthis. so i think it's important that we up our spending. we are committed to 2.5. i note that labour say they're committed to the 2% figure . that's already a £7 figure. that's already a £7 billion cut from where we're up to now . so, so they are not the to now. so, so they are not the answer. and as you say, i've rightly, i think, called for more money. i should just say that this budget actually has added 1.8% in real terms to our defence budgets . defence budgets. >> and obviously putin has been gaining ground in ukraine. how much of a threat currently is russia ? and could you see the uk russia? and could you see the uk and other nato countries being forced into some kind of armed conflict? so i was over in ukraine last week. >> i met president zelenskyy when i was there , i said, this when i was there, i said, this is a wake up call for the world. you've got some russian
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advances, as you say, they're not dramatic in truth, but nonetheless they're consistent at the moment. it is very important and will cost us a lot less money if we understand that defeating russia and putin in ukraine is a lot less expensive than him moving further to the west, either to the rest of ukraine or worse still, to places like poland . places like poland. >> so that was grant shapps talking exclusively to gb news. jonathan, do you think that the pubuc jonathan, do you think that the public appetite is still to keep funding ukraine? i don't see what the solution is. i can't we're not going to they're not going to beat putin, are they. where does go? where does it go? >> well, just before we on >> well, just before we get on to i think it's a grant to that, i think it's a grant shapps that it's shapps should be clear that it's not currently 2.5% at the moment. it is 2, and it's an aspiration to get to 2.5. so it's a bit cheeky to criticise labour for wanting to. i think it's 5% because that's what the conservative 2.2, 2.27. so two point, the fundamental is , point, the fundamental point is, well, first of all, to address your question about ukraine, i
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do in a short answer, i do think it's important to keep funding ukraine because ukraine the ukraine because ukraine is the front line against putin. and i don't think that we can just swallow the kremlin line, that they'll be satisfied if they just get to meet all their objectives in ukraine, and they won't have other , objectives won't have any other, objectives anywhere else in europe. i don't think that the estonians are happy with that, or the lithuanians public are with you happy with that, or the litithatians public are with you happy with that, or the litithat .ns public are with you happy with that, or the litithat . is public are with you happy with that, or the litithat . i haven't are with you happy with that, or the litithat . i haven't seen/ith you on that. i haven't seen i haven't seen the polling data, but i genuinely think that the british people, believe in fairness and that they were horrified by the invasion . i horrified by the invasion. i don't see what necessarily has changed. i think if you were to ask people about individual sums of money, people might quibble with much they're prepared with how much they're prepared to send to ukraine. but fact to send to ukraine. but the fact is that haven't actually sent is that we haven't actually sent as ukraine as other as much to ukraine as other people. there different people. and there are different ways supporting but ways of supporting, ukraine. but the fundamental point of, in relation , increasing military relation to, increasing military budget, whether you support that or not, is the conservatives are just not being honest with how they're going to fund all this stuff because it's so great,
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isn't it, to be able to cut taxes at the same time, promise, increase in funding to all manner of public services and departments ? but we know that's departments? but we know that's not how it works. if the conservatives want to keep funding the nhs, keep funding schools the schools and increase the military can't military budget, they can't afford tax cuts, particularly not the £46 billion of unfunded tax cuts . tax cuts. >> they're not increasing defence spending, and defence spending, sadly, and i wish well, they but wish they were well, they but they're you right how. >> now. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so how are they going to pay for and they there for that budget. and they there was a penny for was not a penny extra for defence. >> yeah. >> yeah. but >> yeah. but i'm >> yeah. but i'm watching chefs and there. and what he's saying there. it's totally disingenuous. why didn't he before the he say all this before the budget. single penny budget. why not a single penny was allocated in budget to was allocated in the budget to defence. despite all defence. and even despite all the people said they the polls where people said they would rather money on would rather have money spent on defence tax defence than on, on on tax reduction. it's a bit reduction. so it's a bit disingenuous for him to say, because what he's done is he's watched the public's fury at the fact that nothing has been given to defence, he's now to defence, and he's now sounding know, to defence, and he's now sounthe] know, to defence, and he's now sounthe great know, to defence, and he's now sounthe great am know, to defence, and he's now sounthe great am saying.w, to defence, and he's now sounthe great am saying. yes, he's the great i am saying. yes, well, should more, you well, we should have more, you know, shocking that, you know, it is shocking that, you know, it is shocking that, you know, worst war is know, while the worst war is raging europe, ukraine since
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raging in europe, ukraine since 1945, we spend just 1/50 of our total national income on defence. that's what the 2.27 is. it is astonishing. we have a military, an army that's down to 76,000, you know, we we're we're mothballing fighter squadrons and fighter jets because you can't even start on the aircraft carriers, the aircraft, all of that stuff. and yet it seems to me that this government is not taking the threat of putin very seriously. you know, before the last war, churchill was warned of exactly this . in the early of exactly this. in the early 30s, he was saying we didn't have enough, we didn't have enough weapons to fight a war. the difference between then and now is the weapons they were building then could built building then could be built quite quickly. weapons quite quickly. the weapons they're build now they're going to build now are going a longer. so going to take a lot longer. so if something quickly, we if something happens quickly, we are equipped. the are just not equipped. the government, the other government, remember the other week, deny week, had to deny that conscription be brought conscription would be brought backif conscription would be brought back if we were attacked by people because we just didn't have the to fight war, have the military to fight war, which is astonishing. which i think is astonishing. and they had to deny that. but
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who else is going to fight the war? >> david davis has proposed that the tory mp, massively expanding the tory mp, massively expanding the reservists the force of reservists up to 100,000. have 100,000. that's so you have weekend soldiers effectively. so they're trained. so if there was a war, at least be interesting. >> there was a poll the other day that said under 20 fours, something 40, 40 to 50% something like 40, 40 to 50% would not would not be prepared to fight for their country and would refuse to be conscripted . would refuse to be conscripted. yeah. which, you know, i find astonishing. well, i don't think no one wants to fight. but the thing is, you would if your country was under attack, you would have. you wouldn't want your taken by your country taken over by putin, these this generation, >> but these this generation, they a globe. carroll. they live on a globe. carroll. they a country. they they do live in a country. they live a global world where live in a global world where everybody each other. >> and it sounds like baked beth. i'm not, i'm not, i'm not i'm not going to rise to it. but what will that we what i will say is that when we talk of talk about who these sort of hypothetical need to be hypothetical wars, we need to be really about saying, really careful about saying, well, who are we going be well, who are we going to be fighting these against? fighting these wars against? because left because nobody or neither left or about or right is talking about engaging russian forces in direct combat. >> hang on, hang on. no,
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>> no, but hang on, hang on. no, you can't just say today it's reported in the papers that putin is ready to putin has said he is ready to use his nuclear weapons. it's use his nuclear weapons. so it's not saying going to not us saying we're going to attack it's him saying he's attack him. it's him saying he's very attack west. very happy to attack the west. if we try to interfere with ukraine. >> that's what he's saying. >> that's what he's saying. >> got to take seriously. >> look, course we have to >> look, of course we have to take he says seriously. i'm take what he says seriously. i'm not we shouldn't it not saying we shouldn't take it seriously. am saying is seriously. what i am saying is that we can sort of wargame all kinds but kinds of scenarios, but fundamentally, i do not think that to be engaging that we are going to be engaging in of nuclear war with in a kind of nuclear war with russia, because that really would assured that would be mutually assured that we are. >> but that's the nuclear >> but that's what the nuclear deterrent about, isn't deterrent is all about, isn't it, you don't engage in the it, that you don't engage in the war? that's what it exists for. it, that you don't engage in the war?for at's what it exists for. it, that you don't engage in the war?for the what it exists for. it, that you don't engage in the war?for the people exists for. it, that you don't engage in the war?for the people existnow. it, that you don't engage in the war?for the people existnow say, and for the people who now say, don't because we don't up defence because we won't of hand to won't have that kind of hand to hand anymore. look hand war anymore. look at ukraine. hand hand. ukraine. it's hand to hand. yeah, exactly what's yeah, that's exactly what's happening yeah, that's exactly what's haps01ing yeah, that's exactly what's hapso 12g yeah, that's exactly what's hapso 12 billion by the end of >> so 12 billion by the end of this year we'd have spent we'd have sent ukraine. have sent to ukraine. >> and we can't our potholes >> and we can't fix our potholes unless year old woman unless you're 101 year old woman being it yourself, being told to do it yourself, should the diana should we talk about the diana memorial prince of wales, memorial event? prince of wales, duke of sussex, carol at a ceremony tonight. and they can't
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even have william in the room. while a video of harry is played on a screen. why? because i guess he may be not be able to put his face straight and smile nicely. >> i think it's disrespectful to diana. >> it sort of is. yes, it is disrespectful to diana. i'm sure harry would have wanted to come here, and i'm sure he would, because, you know, we know from his that, that he's he'd his people that, that he's he'd be willing. he has he'd be be willing. he has said he'd be willing to take on some royal dufies willing to take on some royal duties and would duties again. and this would have this would have been have been this would have been the perfect royal to ease the perfect royal duty to ease him the palace said him back. but the palace said they want him will they didn't want him here. will is, sure, has said is, i'm pretty sure, has said i'm even going to be, you i'm not even going to be, you know, you know, know, in the same, you know, hemisphere. but it is a bit hemisphere. but so it is a bit disrespectful but if disrespectful to diana. but if william, know, future william, you know, the future king, is i'm not having king, is saying i'm not having it you can understand why . it and you can understand why. yeah, he's he can't be expected. >> they forget he was >> shouldn't they forget he was only monarch. >> he could been on a video >> he could have been on a video link the same time. they link at the same time. they could that. that's not could have done that. that's not such ask. such a big ask. >> not such a big ask. but >> it's not such a big ask. but the thing is, we haven't been hurt the william we
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hurt in the way william has. we haven't is haven't been hurt. william is angry with for the hurt, angry with him for the hurt, ease friction but. ease and friction. but. but probably because the probably mainly because of the hurt inflicted on kate. hurt he's inflicted on kate. yes, yes, but would think yes, but. yes, but i would think wills doesn't think of him as his brother would his brother anymore. i would think thinks he's he's think wills thinks he's he's gone now. he's just. gone to him now. he's just. >> that's quite statement, >> that's quite a statement, quite >> that's quite a statement, qui'but not saying i think >> but you're not saying i think probably see them royal probably see them as royal figures, also you see figures, but then also you see them siblings. them as just siblings. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> think that it's. and >> well i think that it's. and siblings. not i don't know siblings. i'm not i don't know what think each other what they think about each other apart said apart from what they've said on the and apart from what they've said on the said and apart from what they've said on the said a and apart from what they've said on the said a lot and apart from what they've said on the said a lot less nd william said a lot less than harry about but think that harry about it. but i think that if, you know, diana would have been very by it. and been very, very upset by it. and so think that has to be taken so i think that has to be taken into account. also there's into account. and also there's the pragmatic issue about the more pragmatic issue about what's the royal what's happening in the royal family have family right now. if you have the of action for the king out of action for goodness how you goodness knows how long, you have a really depleted royal family, bit as though family, it feels a bit as though the wheels are sort of coming off show, need all off the show, and they need all the star power they can get. with great to edward with the great respect to edward and anne, they are not a—listers in pubuc and anne, they are not a—listers in public view , and the in the public view, and the whole point is they have to be seen to be believed. i know you say they're decent people,
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say that they're decent people, but public but they're not what the public want. a decent person want. edward is a decent person and seen him on and in fact i've seen him on telly few times the past telly a few times in the past couple weeks. couple of weeks. >> a really good bloke. >> he's a really good bloke. he's bloke and he he's a decent bloke and he doesn't seem to suffer from not being talk to people. being able to talk to people. >> doesn't have star. >> he doesn't have the star. he doesn't used to have. doesn't that harry used to have. >> we can't have harry >> yeah, but we can't have harry back after he's done. back after what he's done. >> and were saying andrew >> so. and we were saying andrew and i was saying zara phillips on great. on the front page. she's great. >> great, she's >> yeah, she is great, but she's not a working royal. >> never the civil list. >> olympic, olympic silver. maybe she should. >> she brought up playing >> she was brought up playing miss phillips and that was miss zara phillips and that was why intended it. >> yeah. with her brother. >> yeah. with her brother. >> two they are. were >> two they are. they were brought as commoners. >> yeah. they need a matriarch, carol, to knock their heads together. who is that? i'm carole no. the matriarch. together. who is that? i'm carigood no. the matriarch. together. who is that? i'm carigood job. the matriarch. together. who is that? i'm carigood job. well,iatriarch. together. who is that? i'm carigood job. well, no.arch. together. who is that? i'm carigood job. well, no. but. together. who is that? i'm carigood job. well, no. but the matriarch. >> indomitable matriarch . >> indomitable matriarch. >> indomitable matriarch. >> matriarch was kate, wasn't it? the point. she had it? that was the point. she had become . become. >> she wasn't. she's not really strong character. strong enough character. >> not think? think she >> do you not think? i think she was becoming the sense was becoming that in the sense that was certainly the that that she was certainly the most popular royal is not is most popular royal is not was is the most popular , the most loved the most popular, the most loved royal and camilla not step into
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the no, no. camilla's the breach? no, no. camilla's great. but as you say, she's great. but but as you say, she's she's a like edward in that she's a bit like edward in that sense i do love anne. i do sense than i do love anne. i do love anne. i do. i'm not sure the world is ready for anne. >> oh, she'd be a fantastic princess. >> oh, she. >> oh, she. >> she'd be like. she'd be like the duke of edinburgh. yeah, but should one? should she be the one? >> shouldn't the one >> shouldn't she be the one behind saying. right, behind the scenes saying. right, harry. in harry. william, i want you in this on i'm going to this room on this. i'm going to get. we've got to sort out. get. we've got to sort this out. yes. family. >> should be. >> she should be. >> she should be. >> think the royal family >> i think the royal family just. often said about just. i've often said this about the they need to the royal family. they need to be. need to wise. they be. they need to be wise. they need to have good politics. yeah. have a power yeah. if you have a star power who come back who actually wants to come back onto the show. no. >> no, no, no. >> i'm sorry. no, no, no. >> you? no, actually, no. >> with you? no, actually, no. >> with you? no, actually, no. >> you can't. >> with you? no, actually, no. >> if»u can't. >> with you? no, actually, no. >> if he an't. >> with you? no, actually, no. >> if he wants to come and it can if you let can be resolved. if you can let bygones resolved. actually. bygones be resolved. actually. >> event. >> but but this event. >> but but this event. >> i'm not the family, carol. >> i'm not in the family, carol. i'm just saying that pragmatically. constitutionally, that's what >> constitutionally, that's what i'm go to this i'm going to go back to this event tonight. shameful, event tonight. it's shameful, actually, haven't actually, that they haven't sorted william does sorted this out. so william does his moment his stuff, and then the moment he's brother he's off the stage, his brother beams does it say to beams in what does it say to the world? >> it says to the world
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>> well, it says to the world that they're speaking that they're not speaking and probably never but but it probably never will. but but it would to the world, if would also say to the world, if they they do what you they if they did do what you suggested, you know, suggested, where, you know, there were kind of the video thing william there. thing to get. william was there. it on his face. so it would show on his face. so what that say to the world? >> you've got to put on your worst message. >> at the people the queen >> look at the people the queen had have been had to meet. must have been pretty distasteful. get some pretty distasteful. i get some of who were former of those people who were former ira never had to >> the queen never had to deal with what has inflicted on with what harry has inflicted on the royal family. >> maybe. maybe what they need. carol dog. carol is a dog. >> good, good. >> yes. good, good. >> yes. good, good. >> segue, bev. >> that's a good segue, bev. >> that's a good segue, bev. >> what will the dog do >> go on. what will the dog do for we could just get a for them if we could just get a dog? health benefits. >> so, dogs. paper, paper. dog? health benefits. >> fexpress. paper, paper. dog? health benefits. >> fexpress today�*aper, paper. dog? health benefits. >> fexpress today said. paper. dog? health benefits. >> fexpress today said. |do er. the express today said dogs do really much really make you feel much happier. they your happier. they raise your concentration levels, your levels of well—being. and this is a study that's just been done, and with a four year old train poodle. well, lots of people want was spend time with it and it just changed their it changed their actual brainwaves. now, you know, having spent time with my dog, lovely dogs, it changes your brain way for sure. your dog turns you into a bit of
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a mush . mush. yes. yeah, yeah. a mush. mush. yes. yeah, yeah. >> does it really. yeah, yeah, that's where i'm going. >> mean, i bring a into >> i mean, i bring a dog into the studio every day. >> cats, but >> i've got two cats, but i mean, i would love a dog, but it would for what would be divorced for me. what about always wanted about you, a dog i always wanted about you, a dog i always wanted a sadly, never had one. and now >> sadly, never had one. and now i sort of people say a i sort of people say they're a bit children the sense bit like children in the sense that do completely upend that they do completely upend your and lose a lot your life and you do lose a lot of i do man's of freedom. and i do man's best friend. enjoying yeah, friend. quite enjoying my. yeah, i enjoy my freedom. but i do quite enjoy my freedom. but i do quite enjoy my freedom. but i can completely understand this is story. is a really interesting story. it what we it kind of confirms what we already when i'm around already know when i'm around dogs, lot dogs, i always feel a lot happier and stressed. happier and less stressed. i just them. mean, they're just love them. i mean, they're not dogs on xl bully, but not scary dogs on xl bully, but you know, terrified. you know, oh, i'm terrified. >> i even really >> i couldn't even really look at dog with at that picture of the dog with its tongue and his its tongue hanging out and his big it makes me go very big teeth. it makes me go very scared. oh, no. >> dogs are just, know, dogs >> dogs are just, you know, dogs bnng >> dogs are just, you know, dogs bring things out in you that you didn't they bring didn't know you had. they bring feelings out. >> whose husband seen >> whose husband has never seen you nice. you're so you being so nice. you're so much to your dog than you much nicer to your dog than you are. i every to my >> i say. i say every day to my dog day, i love you. i'm dog twice a day, i love you. i'm not entirely i say that not entirely sure. i say that twice day. twice a day. >> to your husband?
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>> that to your husband? >> that to your husband? >> probably not twice day. >> probably not twice a day. >> probably not twice a day. >> you were a dog. >> if you were to have a dog. jonathan. would have? >> probably a golden retriever. >> probably a golden retriever. >> they shed a >> i love labradors, they shed a lot of hair though. >> what labradors? >> what labradors? >> you always have to be >> yes. you always have to be hoover the carpet. yeah, hoover in the carpet. yeah, we've tibetan no, we've got a tibetan terrier. no, they don't shed any. murphy, look. they don't shed any. murphy, loo hello, murphy. >> hello, murphy. murphy. >> hello, murphy. murphy. >> little pug into >> now, bring a little pug into the studio. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. the studio. >> now, yeah, yeah. the studio. >> now, still], yeah. the studio. >> now, still to ieah. the studio. >> now, still to come, the government is going to apparently come up apparently is going to come up with of with a new definition of extremism some the extremism and name some of the groups decided groups they've decided are extremist. will extremist. michael gove will name shame them minute name and shame them any minute now that, now in the commons before that, though, your though, sam francis, with your headunes. headlines. >> bev and andrew, thank you very much. i'm a fan of beagles , very much. i'm a fan of beagles, if anyone's asking. it's just gone 1130. the headlines this half hour. the community secretary says the government's new definition of extremism won't stop people protesting or hurt free speech. michael gove says the new wording is instead intended to stop groups which promote violence, hatred or intolerance from getting state funding. it comes nearly two
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weeks after the prime minister warned that extremist forces were, he said, trying to tear the country apart . however, the country apart. however, church leaders, including the archbishops of canterbury and york, have warned that the definition could create more division . a boy has admitted division. a boy has admitted killing 15 year old elian andam near a school in croydon. she was stabbed to death after meeting friends on her way to school in september. meeting friends on her way to school in september . the 17 meeting friends on her way to school in september. the 17 year old suspect, who we can't identify because of his age, has pleaded guilty to manslaughter but denies murdering her. prosecutors, though, haven't accepted that plea and he will go on trial later year. go on trial later this year. diane abbott has accused both major political parties of failing to tackle racism, writing in the guardian today, the independent mp criticised commons speaker after she wasn't called to speak in parliament yesterday . it left rishi sunak yesterday. it left rishi sunak and sir keir starmer to debate comments made about her. it's after the prime minister faced calls to return a £10 million
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donation made by the conservative party's biggest donon conservative party's biggest donor, after comments that frank hester made about miss abbott were widely seen to be racist . were widely seen to be racist. and the prince of wales and the duke of sussex are set to attend an award ceremony in honour of their late mother, princess diana. prince william will make an appearance in person at the diana legacy awards this evening. however, it's reported the brothers won't cross paths with prince harry joining via video call only after william has left the ceremony. meanwhile, the princess of wales, kate middleton, has been crowned britain's favourite royal in a survey conducted before the recent photo editing controversy . those are the controversy. those are the headunes controversy. those are the headlines for more . you can sign headlines for more. you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts . to gbnews.com/alerts. >> for exclusive, limited edition and rare gold coins that
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in bloomberg. it's been reported in bloomberg. it's been reported in the telegraph that there are contingency plans being made by senior people around the cabinet table about the most extraordinary idea of a sixth prime minister since 2016. >> i'm on board. they have to coalesce around one candidate. >> well, this is the big problem and this is what's, people writing about it have raised . writing about it have raised. some cabinet ministers have anonymously been saying if there was one candidate, people could unite around , but there isn't. unite around, but there isn't. rishi would be gone tomorrow. yeah, but. but there isn't. and ultimately, this is what kept bofis ultimately, this is what kept boris johnson in position for perhaps a year longer than those first initial conversations about removing him. >> of course, was >> and of course, if he was still in the commons, be >> and of course, if he was stil|obvious. ommons, be the obvious. >> yeah. absolutely. and >> yeah. yeah, absolutely. and also with this, extremism definition stuff , a number of definition stuff, a number of muslim groups have come out to say this is a solution looking for a problem . ergo, there is no for a problem. ergo, there is no problem with extremism among the
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muslim community. and that is just ludicrous because there clearly is, of course there is. it's to say muslims it's not to say all muslims know, there are some. and know, and there are some. and it's important for muslim troops to that. to define that. >> essentially , we hear now >> and essentially, we hear now that gove going to name these that gove is going to name these groups we were that gove is going to name these grouthere we were that gove is going to name these grouthere wasn't we were that gove is going to name these grouthere wasn't going'e were that gove is going to name these grouthere wasn't going to were that gove is going to name these grouthere wasn't going to name told there wasn't going to name for couple weeks. for a couple of weeks. >> any now, that is going >> any minute now, that is going to happen any minute to wrap to happen any minute now to wrap it emily and it up there. but emily and tom will be course, from 12 will be on, of course, from 12 till three with good afternoon britain. anywhere britain. don't go anywhere with britain's on
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gb news. >> 1138 with britain's newsroom on gb news. andrew pearson. bev turner. we're going to go live to westminster now because we're expecting michael gove, the communities minister, name and shame he says communities minister, name and sha extremists he says communities minister, name and sha extremists in he says communities minister, name and sha extremists in the he says communities minister, name and sha extremists in the commons. are extremists in the commons. political editor chris is political editor chris hope is in westminster studio. chris in our westminster studio. chris we think. i thought we didn't think. i thought initially going to initially he wasn't going to name shame groups today. name and shame the groups today. that a week or that was coming in a week or two. are they bringing two. why are they bringing it forward ? forward? >> well, we think that's
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happening. and morning, andrew. morning bev, the suggestion is from sources that he will try and name some groups. of course, the full list will be prepared over the next couple of weeks, and that will be produced then published by the james cleverly, the secretary, michael the home secretary, and michael gove, communities secretary. gove, the communities secretary. and a big row, and that will cause a big row, because when you're trying to define who or what extremists define who or what is extremists with this definition, there with this new definition, there will people around the will be some people around the edges where there's a big debate, think that will be debate, and i think that will be a contested space and then, you know, have the debate. know, have to have the debate. now, government is in these now, the government is in these new plans set today, may new plans set out today, may very clear the final decision will lie with the community secretary home secretary and the home secretary, and then it's up to the named if they want to the groups named if they want to contest that, to go to judicial review in the high court, costing lots money. there are costing lots of money. there are concerns from people concerns about this from people on the free speech side, toby young the free speech young from the free speech union. he's worried that any future governments andrew and bev maybe not this one, but a future government could use this extremism definition stifle extremism definition to stifle
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freedom and to cut freedom of speech and to cut down and stop people being critical of the government. what it's meant to do is to give guidance to central government and other bodies, not to give pubuc and other bodies, not to give public money to groups named as extremists. but it could get and may well get pretty political and controversial very quickly when that full list is published, what we're waiting for now is to hear michael gove, the community secretary, who earlier in this very chair was setting out the plans for gb news viewers just after 9 am. in the morning, he'll be setting out what he plans to do, and there suggestions he could there is suggestions he could use privilege to use parliamentary privilege to name what he what name groups, what he what he won't to do is to get ahead won't want to do is to get ahead of the official list when it's published in 2 or 3 weeks time. so we'll wait and see what he says. >> okay. thank you chris chris ryhope there in westminster, we are waiting to hear if michael gove will give those list of extremist groups . we're also extremist groups. we're also hoping this morning obviously
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somebody like michael gove comes along with a big story, slightly throws us into disarray. we do want to get to the pothole story as well, but we're also going want to get to the pothole story as talkinth we're also going want to get to the pothole story as talkinth \a 're also going want to get to the pothole story as talkinth \a gentleman.1g want to get to the pothole story as talkinth \a gentleman. he's be talking to a gentleman. he's a driver who basically be talking to a gentleman. he's a around iver who basically be talking to a gentleman. he's a around while ho basically be talking to a gentleman. he's a around while he'sasically goes around while he's delivering his things, and he cleans signs just from cleans street signs just from the good of his heart. >> a sweetheart. >> what a sweetheart. >> what a sweetheart. >> i know i love people, i love british who do that sort british people who do that sort of shouldn't to of thing. we shouldn't have to clean our own potholes, keith says , because he's down in says, because he's down in somerset, year old somerset, where the 101 year old lady our roads and pavements lady is our roads and pavements here deteriorated to here in somerset deteriorated to third due to a third world standards due to a complete lack of maintenance by government, both national and or. >> it's a national disgrace. and susan despite increasing susan says despite increasing council again, in ashford in council tax again, in ashford in surrey, pitted with surrey, we are pitted with potholes, particularly in front of shops. we in our o.a.p friends have written endless letters, met with councillors to no . no avail. >> and diana, i'm so glad you've reminded me of this. >> and diana, i'm so glad you've reminded me of this . i've reminded me of this. i've noficed reminded me of this. i've noticed this the area she lives in, she says. wandsworth, not a million miles from me. note that when pothole is filled, great. when a pothole is filled, great. around months later it's around two months later it's
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back and back again. incompetence and capital letters. i conclude the guy's employed to do the job. just don't know they're just don't know what they're doing or they're too lazy to do just don't know what they're d whatever it is, nobody's ma and1g exactly the same. >> and i've exactly the same. there's road that drive in there's a road that i drive in here, roadworks months, here, roadworks for months, cones all along down to one lane. they're a lane. oh, look, they're fixing a pothole. that's good. two weeks later, cone gone and later, traffic cone has gone and the potholes back. the potholes are back. >> yeah, there's some of the potholes near me. they're like. well, you could fall into it. you fall into it. yeah, right. >> don't go anywhere. this is
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i >> -- >> when a delivery driver has been held, a local hero. because on his rounds, he cleans and repaints neglected street signs that he sees on his travels . that he sees on his travels. bobby byrd and brewer spruces up these dirty street signs in dorset. so they go from this. if you're watching on the radio,
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we've got a sign looking pretty tatty . how lovely is tatty to this. how lovely is that? >> honestly, transformation. >> honestly, transformation. >> now is delivery driver, street sign cleaner and general all round hero in my opinion. bobby byrd and brewer. good morning bobby. thank you so much for joining us. yeah. great, so forjoining us. yeah. great, so just tell us how it all started. what was the what was the first sign you cleaned up, what was the what was the first sign you cleaned up , that was sign you cleaned up, that was when i lived in barnstable, you know, and, sort of right in the town centre there , it was okay, town centre there, it was okay, but on the immediate outside of the town centre, the signs were just really bad . so it was. just really bad. so it was. yeah. vicarage lawn, i think was, the first one i went for. obviously, i was a bit nervous , obviously, i was a bit nervous, you know, i thought, well, should i really be doing it? but then. should i really be doing it? but then . hey, who else is going to then. hey, who else is going to do so what do you take with you? >> do you take a mop or a bucket? and how do you clean them? >> well, it depends really. i mean, you've got that sort of
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green, stuff that builds up on the metal if it's not been cleaned for a long time , so if cleaned for a long time, so if that needs doing, then. yeah, a bucket with some water in the back of the car there, but most of the ones that i do, they just need sort of paint straight on. really and i, i use the, outside metal paint. the special stuff that's obviously quite expensive , you know, and do. >> what's the response like, bobby from from the locals and also from the councils because you're doing the most amazing job and you're shaming these councils for not doing this job themselves. >> well. well yeah. i mean, we're not talking since covid really, are they . excuse these really, are they. excuse these have not been done for literally years, you know, and, it's sad . years, you know, and, it's sad. we're talking about civic pride. you know, in english, civic pride, you know, and it's time we started, you know, like, doing up our streets a bit and
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taking care of them, you know, just, like, blocked drains and things. i mean, we're really tired of it, but especially in shaftsbury, the, the response have been absolutely incredible on, social media. after i did the heathman's heath fields road, sign that was just incredible. over a thousand, and duke's then had a meeting with the shaftesbury town council this morning, and that went really, really well. so there'll be, getting me on board there. they say they can pay for the materials i paid, but they weren't. won't be able to pay me for the signs to do its work because it's not it's not their signs. it belongs to dorset council. >> and so. and are you documents ing the signs on social media? is that how awareness has risen about what you're doing? >> that's right. yeah. i use like, you know, the facebook pages sort of, around gillingham or , shaftesbury and around there
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or, shaftesbury and around there and, it's these great sort of, pages that everyone is connected to, you know? so, i mean, just that sandilands road one doing that sandilands road one doing that in east tower yesterday because it's not just those two villages, but also the areas around you see. and i see those when i'm going out on the routes, you see and i see, oh, there's another one, there's another one that needs doing. and yeah, they said, thank you for doing this in our, in our beautiful village, you know, the east stour and, yeah , really, east stour and, yeah, really, you know, it's just like, you know, these things. >> bobby, it may encourage other people to take up their mops and do the same. >> yeah, a couple of people have actually come forward saying, how do i do this then, yeah . how do i do this then, yeah. yeah, so really, all you need is the special paint, you know, and, and a steady hand and. yeah, let's do it. but i mean, someone's got to do it, you
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know? yeah, it's civic pride, you know, they should give you the freedom of dorset . the freedom of dorset. >> bobby. >> bobby. >> oh, i'd love that one guy. he was saying, he deserves an mba. or you do, you do knighthood . or you do, you do knighthood. yeah, that would be really cool. >> i mean, i think a knighthood is pushing it a bit, bobby, i can't lie. i mean, you've only just started, but let's see if you get around the country. you can get around the country. and absolutely follow and we would absolutely follow your travels it. your travels to do it. >> yeah, there's a few signs near north london. near me in north london. >> if you want come to >> bobby, if you want to come to the the day. >> bobby, if you want to come to the yeah. the day. >> bobby, if you want to come to the yeah. yeah,the day. >> bobby, if you want to come to the yeah. yeah, definitely. i'd >> yeah. yeah, definitely. i'd love you there's love to. you know, there's a sign, know, let me know sign, you know, just let me know and i'll come do it. you're and i'll come and do it. you're doing passionate. doing a passionate. >> doing amazing job, >> you're doing an amazing job, bobby. of british bobby. honestly. best of british bobby. honestly. best of british bobby brewer there who bobby bird and brewer there who is and know is going around. and you know why because pride in why it matters? because pride in our has gone, you see, our streets has gone, you see, and it means litter bins overflowing . overflowing. >> yeah, he is great. we need more of him. and he does deserve an mbe because that's what the honours system should be about, not rewarding politicians 100% wealthy businessmen, people who do. isn't he? >> let's go to christopher hope.
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we're waiting for michael gove, of name and shame of course, to name and shame extremists the commons any extremists in the commons any minute chris minute now. chris >> yeah, this has been delay as it often is in the house of commons. he's due up in about ten minutes time, which may miss the back end of your brilliant show. andrew and bev, but we are waiting hear from michael waiting to hear from michael gove. speculation use gove. the speculation he'll use privilege parliament, privilege in parliament, which means prosecuted or means he can't be prosecuted or challenged for saying things from the despatch box to name some groups who could fall into this extremism definition . this new, extremism definition. we do know that other groups are already lining up legal challenges to go to high challenges to go to the high court try and ensure that if court to try and ensure that if they called extremists, they are called extremists, they can challenge that. we'll see can challenge that. so we'll see how goes, and that'll be it how that goes, and that'll be it will be in hands of michael will be in the hands of michael gove, community secretary, gove, the community secretary, james home james cleverly, the home secretary, secretary pull secretary, to secretary pull this together with their officials and produce it. there are big concerns, though, from freedom of speech groups about whether list might be whether this list might be expanded. so—called mission creep. so it includes people who we don't think are extremists at
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all, certainly on the christian right or those who are concerned if they're against if they're fighting against abortion will abortion clinics, will they be called extremists ? and i think called extremists? and i think there's a tradition in the uk of freedom of speech and protesting and anything which eats into that, those freedoms will be a problem for many , many fair problem for many, many fair minded brits. so i think it's a very delicate space that michael gove is treading into and will be due to hear from him shortly at around in about midday on the hour! at around in about midday on the hour i expect in house of commons. we'll bring it to you first when he when speaks on first when he when he speaks on gb news, that's chris hope who will there and bring to you. >> live as michael gove and interesting that he will use parliamentary because parliamentary privilege because they it, some they may be cross about it, some of groups he but they of the groups he names, but they probably got absolute probably will. he's got absolute parliamentary name parliamentary privilege to name and shame them without any legal recourse. >> i mean, if they genuinely are extremists, it tends get extremists, it tends to get quite quite easily. quite cross quite easily. >> understand why >> so i can understand why you're that. you're doing that. >> the the genuine >> and the and the genuine extremism should named and extremism should be named and shamed, a final shamed, let's have a final word from guys home on from you guys at home on potholes. said potholes. matt has said regarding the potholes. the
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roads yet we roads are so bad now, yet we spend thousands of pounds on making car roadworthy. making our car roadworthy. and yet roads are unworthy to yet the roads are unworthy to travel on without hitting a pothole and then damaging your car. >> and here's a message from diana, which know going to diana, which i know is going to resonate i suspect resonate with. i suspect millions of you, and it certainly with me. local certainly does with me. local councils spending so councils should stop spending so much unused psycho much money on unused psycho lanes, stupid smiling or grimacing faces, and 20 mile an hour speed cameras. let's not even get started on the ultra low emission zone. >> well, christine has said thank you, christine, for getting in touch. >> i bet if there were potholes outside number 10 or buckingham palace, them palace, they would repair them straight as british people straight away as british people really of really are. put to the back of the queue everything. the queue with everything. aren't appointments, aren't we? doctors appointments, hospital appointments, we just keep other keep giving money to other countries providing countries and providing everything for illegal immigrants. islam has made a immigrants. it islam has made a speech today about potholes rather than kids playing the recorder in schools. >> i guarantee you'd have got much more publicity and much more support. >> yeah, guarantee it right. >> yeah, guarantee it right. >> we're done for this i >> we're done for this week. i am going getting on neil am going to be getting on neil oliver's show over the weekend
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now, though , that is it from now, though, that is it from britain's newsroom. here's emily and tom. britain's newsroom. here's emily ancseen. britain's newsroom. here's emily ancsee you next week and we'll >> see you next week and we'll be bringing you words of be bringing you the words of michael gove live as we learn, which groups are to be added to the extremism list, who will be precluded from interaction with the government. >> we'll learn that from midday. >> we'll learn that from midday. >> yes, we will indeed. and also, could there be a very real plot to oust rishi sunak, the prime minister apparently, cabinet ministers are meeting to talk about who could take on the role instead. could there be some kind of mutiny brewing in the corridors of power? we'll find out from those who know all of that. after your . weather. of that. after your. weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met
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office for gb news. most of us will see a bit of rain today, but across eastern england it may well stay mostly dry. and that's where we'll see some pretty high temperatures as well. low pressure though, is still our weather still controlling our weather and these two weather fronts are moving country. both moving across the country. both providing some outbreaks of rain. rain through rain. persistent rain through central scotland , a central and southern scotland, a soggy old afternoon here, a bit of snow the tops of of snow likely on the tops of the but much of the the hills, but much of the highlands, northern isles highlands, the northern isles will stay dry and bright and mostly across east anglia in mostly dry across east anglia in the south—east, although we will see lots more cloud coming in but showery rain for wales and southwest england. look at the temperature though, for england southwest england. look at the tem wales.e though, for england southwest england. look at the tem wales. very jgh, for england southwest england. look at the tem wales. very mild or england southwest england. look at the tem wales. very mild or withand and wales. very mild 16 with a bit brightness. we could bit of brightness. we could reach celsius. feeling cold reach 17 celsius. feeling cold though, persistent though, with that persistent rain over the central belt of scotland, rain does linger scotland, that rain does linger through much tonight as well. through much of tonight as well. more come for more showers to come for northern there'll be northern ireland. there'll be some for england some showery rain for england and and then the and wales, and then through the second of night we'll second half of the night we'll see heavier rain coming see some heavier rain coming into the far into wales, and the far southwest the odd southwest may have the odd rumble of thunder mixed in with that. another pretty mild night,
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certainly and wales. that. another pretty mild night, cebitinly and wales. that. another pretty mild night, ce bit of( and wales. that. another pretty mild night, ce bit of a and wales. that. another pretty mild night, cebit of a chilly and wales. that. another pretty mild night, cebit of a chilly one and wales. that. another pretty mild night, cebit of a chilly one innd wales. that. another pretty mild night, ce bit of a chilly one in the ilales. that. another pretty mild night, ce bit of a chilly one in the fares. a bit of a chilly one in the far north scotland, where the north of scotland, where the winds coming from winds are coming in from the north, still providing of north, still providing a bit of snow tops of the hills. snow over the tops of the hills. another fairly day another fairly damp day for scotland. showery scotland. some heavy, showery rain along the m25 rain along the m4 and the m25 early on friday. that'll clear away and then left with away and then we're left with a mixture of bright or sunny spells, but plenty showers to spells, but plenty of showers to come well. again fairly mild come as well. again fairly mild across england and though across england and wales, though it breezier. another it will be breezier. another pretty chilly in scotland . pretty chilly one in scotland. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 12:00 on thursday, the 14th of march. >> and we're going to cross straight over to the commons, where communities secretary michael gove is set to name. he's getting to taking to the floor. he is set to name and
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shame extremists. we're just watching the house of commons as penny mordaunt is still in there taking questions. >> indeed, we're looking at the end leaders questions, which end of leaders questions, which is going to move in to community secretary, sometimes known as levelling up secretary michael gove, because this is the plan today to name a new definition of extremism, which has already been released this morning. and then from the chamber of the house of commons, telling the commons first what groups are going to be added to the list of extremists. this is a big deal. >> it is indeed. and michael gove was on the channel earlier and he was asked about potential difficulties with broadening this definition of extremism , this definition of extremism, and he was asked about the question of free speech. will it inhibit free speech in this country? he says it absolutely won't. it will not curtail your free speech. in fact, it will uphold free speech and democracy by pinpointing exactly who these extremist groups are. we were

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