in the >> with division rife in the tory party at large, rishi sunak can ill afford splits within his inner circle. but that might be exactly what he's going to get. find out more with me very soon. government figures show sickness benefits across britain rose in every constituency last year , every constituency last year, with tory heartlands seeing some of the biggest increases . of the biggest increases. >> the prime minister admits that stubbornly high nhs waiting lists are one of the biggest failures in office, as a study reveals, nearly half of workers are looking at job adverts outside the health service . outside the health service. >> us president joe biden urges iran against launching a missile strike on israel as he vows ironclad support for netanyahu. >> the singer rihanna is accused of sexualising christianity after appearing on a magazine cover dressed as a provocative nun . so we're asking this nun. so we're asking this morning, should christians be protected from mockery and the

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smartphones are up to six times dirtier. six got six times more bacteria living on them than toilet seats. >> oh, no, don't tell me that they've done swab tests and all they've done swab tests and all the rest of it. >> and out the test they did more than half of the phones. they tried were classified as heavily contaminated with microbes. >> oh, stop. >> oh, stop. >> that's disgusting. one had six times as many microbes as a typical toilet seat. >> oh that's awful. so >> oh that's awful. so >> so we got to wash them and clean them and wipe them down. do you know what? >> it's funny you say that. yes. last night, last thing i did before bed. actually, i sanitised my phone. >> did you? yeah. >> did you? yeah. >> actually. hand sanitiser. i literally and it literally went and gave it a good scrub dub dub. so if you were to check my phone. scrub dub dub. you were to check dub dub. so if you were to check my now, i'd be in a very my phone now, i'd be in a very good way. >> did you take it out? >> did you take it out? >> curse to do it? >> the curse to do it? >> the curse to do it? >> no, i scrubbed it with the case on. why should i have taken

it yeah, probably, but anyway, >> yeah, i probably, but anyway, mine be very but mine will be very clean. but i do worry about that. yeah. did you touch it all the time? >> don't you? >> don't you? >> i don't know how often we clean like peanuts in a bar. >> it's like peanuts in a bar. never eat peanuts on a bar. >> really? >> really? >> oh, no. »- >> oh, no. >> no, but they give you your individual these days. >> no, but they give you your ind yomal these days. >> no, but they give you your ind you wouldn't these days. >> no, but they give you your ind you wouldn't be se days. >> no, but they give you your ind you wouldn't be sharing, >> you wouldn't be sharing, would you? >> you wouldn't be sharing, wotthey»u? >> you wouldn't be sharing, wotthey probably just swap them >> they probably just swap them about. oh, but yeah, you can about. oh, no, but yeah, you can buy sanitiser. i've you can buy sanitiser. i've seen you can buy sanitiser. i've seen you can buy these ultraviolet things that your phone in and that you put your phone in and it blasts it uv. oh that's it blasts it with uv. oh that's something you'd have. >> but >> that sounds quite good, but you're who's you're probably someone who's got anti—bac wipes got nice little anti—bac wipes and down everything. and you wipe down everything. no, i don't know. >> that is something you do. no, i don't know. >> ihat is something you do. no, i don't know. >> i mightsomething you do. no, i don't know. >> i might startthing you do. no, i don't know. >> i might start doing'ou do. no, i don't know. >> i might start doing that,». no, i don't know. >> i might start doing that, but anyway. >> so maybe we should some. >> so maybe we should buy some. maybe treat me. maybe we should treat me. >> you're going to grab >> and if you're going to grab hold get in hold of your phone to get in touch us this morning, touch with us this morning, and we hear you. as you we love to hear from you. as you know, changed things know, we've changed things a little have little bit. as you may have seen, you've been watching in the week. so instead of emailing like did previous, now like you did in previous, we now if to gbnews.com slash if you go to gbnews.com slash your and way can your say and that way you can get touch us we need get in touch with us and we need to you to that as well don't

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from westminster. good to see you morning . olivia and you this morning. olivia and rishi facing a large rishi sunak facing a large revolt about this . revolt about this. >> well, absolutely. this landmark ruling yesterday was very significant. there were a group of older women in switzerland who went to court, took their government to the european court of human rights and claimed that they, as older women, had been particularly badly affected by climate change and that actually their right to and that actually their right to a private and family life, something that is enshrined in that european law, had been, damaged in some way. they won their case, meaning that it is now possible that in the future, climate activists in britain could end up suing the government for not meeting their net zero commitments. now, that really, for quite a lot of conservative mps, was the straw that broke the camel's back . that broke the camel's back. there are plenty of mps on the right of the party who don't like the echr anyway, because they that it is

they think that it is a stumbling block in trying to keep our borders secure. they think that because of the echr and you can see why they think this. the rwanda plan will just never really work. there will always be those last minute judge rulings when the when the migrants are on the tarmac ready to leave on the runway, they will get brought back because of last minute echrjudgements, last minute echr judgements, plenty of conservative mps who think that up until very recently, the official government position was that britain would be staying in the echr now. hope you're still following me. rishi sunak is making moves. following me. rishi sunak is making moves . well, at least making moves. well, at least talking about claire coutinho, his energy secretary, very close personal ally, was making noises yesterday she would yesterday suggesting she would quite like to see britain out of the eu, which should suggest to many in westminster that rishi sunak two is sort of testing the ground to see if leaving the echr might now be popular with the general public. but if he does go down that route , plenty does go down that route, plenty of his right wing backbenchers will be very happy indeed with

in his own inner circle within his cabinet. however, it looks like there would be a pretty big revolt. mps in the cabinet want to stay in the echr by about 2 to stay in the echr by about 2 to 1, including some pretty influential cabinet ministers. senior cabinet ministers like james cleverly and david cameron. so what is rishi sunak going to do about this thorny, thorny issue ? there is an thorny issue? there is an argument that if he gets delayed by delayed with his rwanda plan, again, that flagship plan to get get a hold of illegal migration, then he'll have almost no choice but to leave the echr. will he accept that that split within his cabinet? how will he manage it? could we be in reshuffle territory? we'll have to wait and find out. >> oh heck. as if we didn't need any more stress with all of that. well, he's got that to deal with. he's also got the financial burdens to deal with as well , especially with this as well, especially with this new saying new report coming out saying sickness benefit the number of people claiming sickness benefit in every constituency in the

country has increased at. >> well, exactly. i mean, it doesn't really come as a surprise to anyone who's been sort of watching what's been going on in recent months and actually years ever since the end of those covid lockdowns, benefits have been on rise, benefits have been on the rise, particularly in sickness benefits and specifically benefits and specifically benefits for those suffering with mental health problems. 69% of all sickness benefits comes from those with mental health issues, and it looks as though the biggest proportional increase in those sickness benefits is in conservative heartland areas . sort of heartland areas. sort of commuter belt towns and rural areas, those areas which until very recently didn't really suffer with unemployment problems at all. this is a crisis which the prime minister and the chancellor do seem pretty aware of. it seems like they want to fix it. jeremy hunts last budget was all about getting people back into work. young mothers, older people,

those who've been out of the workforce for a long time . but workforce for a long time. but there are still an awfully long way go. britain has a huge way to go. britain has a huge worklessness problem in some metropolitan areas, particularly in the in the north west, metropolitan areas, particularly in the in the north west , there in the in the north west, there are areas where 1 in 5 working age adults, adults, young adults to those between the age of 18 and 35 are out of work on long term benefits . sickness pay. term benefits. sickness pay. what are rishi sunak and jeremy hunt going to do about that before the next election? we haven't yet quite seen the results of the last budget come through , but it's unlikely that through, but it's unlikely that it's going a silver bullet it's going to be a silver bullet to that problem, okay, to fix that problem, okay, olivia, now, thank you . olivia, for now, thank you. >> now, president joe biden has promised ironclad support for israel as he warned iran not to launch a missile attack. >> well, it comes as fears grow that tehran could retaliate following a strike in syria that killed major senior iranians, while israel has denied responsibility for the attack.

>> well now joined by us political analyst eric ham, good to see you. this morning, eric. and how much has changed in a week ? we were discussing with week? we were discussing with you last week that that tense phone call between joe biden and netanyahu and now joe biden saying that his support for israel is ironclad . israel is ironclad. >> well, again, i think what we are seeing here is that was just are seeing here is that was just a moment in time. joe biden is continuing to remain very close to israel, even if it's costing him in enormous and valuable political capital, particularly in a an election year. and so we are seeing that netanyahu has said that he has a date in mind for this military operation into rafah . we know a number of rafah. we know a number of countries, including the united states , has attempted to try to states, has attempted to try to stop him from doing so. but it appears as though he's moving forward with this plan , even as forward with this plan, even as many are calling it a potential humanitarian catastrophe if he

does so. and so i think what we're seeing here is there's still that tension, i think, behind the scenes. but what we continue to see, at least publicly, is joe biden remains and continues to showcase that america will stand with israel, even if many within his own party and even within the country, aren't willing to do so i >>i >> i mean, lam em >> i mean, this is the problem, isn't it, that that joe biden andindeed isn't it, that that joe biden and indeed our leaders here in the uk face, but particularly in washington, in whatever their concerns are about what israel is doing, whatever they want, the country to do differently, every time they make that public. it has considerable geopolitical implications . geopolitical implications. >> it does. and i think what we're seeing is a level of dupuchy we're seeing is a level of duplicity playing out right now, because you've got the biden administration saying that they want a two state solution , that want a two state solution, that they want to actually get aid on they want to actually get aid on the ground to many of these palestinian refugees, even after we continue to see, of course,

the transfer of weapons and arms sales to israel. and so i think what you're seeing right now is a number of those crucial independent voters, their approval rating of joe biden is at 21% over his handling of this ongoing crisis in gaza right now. and so what we're seeing is not only is joe biden losing crucial support from within his own party, but also those important independents who could sway the election, they , too, sway the election, they, too, are now beginning to flee. joe biden and eric. >> how much is biden's public support , this sort of rhetoric? support, this sort of rhetoric? how much can that actually protect israel from an attack by iran? or is this a case of an attack being a case of when rather than if ? rather than if? >> i think it's a matter of when, not if, because we know that iran has already when they blame israel for this attack, they also included the united states . so many nations they also included the united states. so many nations in the middle east do not actually look

at or actually separate the united states from israel. and so this is costing president biden enormously. and this is a major and massive headache for him, because we know that the situation is only becoming increasingly more dire now . increasingly more dire now. you've got a potential trade war between israel and turkey. israel wants the united states to weigh in. the united states hasn't done so right now. in addition to that, you've got iran looking at retaliatory strikes. of course, strikes. and of course, there still hezbollah and the houthis, which are causing massive problems in the red sea, which is a major shipping lane. >> okay, eric ham, as always, it's good to see you. thank you. >> now, the prime minister, rishi sunak , has reportedly said rishi sunak, has reportedly said that his biggest failure in the top job is the stubbornly high nhs waiting lists. well that's as the pm urged junior doctors to accept the government's pay offer whilst placing blame on the strikes for the failure to tackle waiting times. this comes as a new study has revealed that

nearly half of those working in the nhs have been looking for jobs outside of the service. >> let's talk to consultant neurologist doctor mike barnes, who joins to good see who joins us now. to good see you this morning, is the pm right? first and foremost to say the waiting list issue is as well, if not caused by at least considerably exacerbated by the strikes. >> well, you can't deny it. it's exacerbated by the strikes. but you've got to look back as to why they're striking in the first place. and i think people are striking in the nhs in the first place because of the relatively poor pay and increasing stress levels, increasing stress levels, increasing overwork, and people now want to be remunerated properly for what they do. and although all the can fall back to is sadly striking, if the government really wants to do something about this, they need to address this issue quickly. negotiate with doctors and negotiate with the doctors and other professionals over other health professionals over pay, other health professionals over pay, get people back working, and chip away at and then slowly chip away at those waiting lists. otherwise,

if we don't do that, we will. we will lose a lot of people from the nhs and that's a self—fulfilling prophecy, isn't it, people leave , more work it, more people leave, more work on those left, etc. what needs to be fixed in terms of the conditions that nhs staff are working in? >> you know, the reasons that they were striking in the first place, as you say . place, as you say. >> well, i don't want to be too simplistic about it, but a lot of it comes back to money, to be quite honest, that the overwhelming majority of people working in nhs want to want working in the nhs want to want to nhs. like the to work in nhs. they like the concept they feel concept of nhs, they feel they're job a they're doing a good job and a worthwhile job. they really worthwhile job. all they really want be paid properly for want is to be paid properly for that job that will keep them in post and slowly. then with more recruitment and more money, we can recruit more people and chip away at those waiting lists . and away at those waiting lists. and i think any new government, it looks like we're going to get a new government year new government this year sometime. pleased. just put sometime. is pleased. just put sometime. is pleased. just put some more money into the nhs. don't fiddle with it. every government coming in has some new whizzy plan to redesign the

nhs. please don't do that. the people in the nhs know what they're doing, give them the money to do it and let them alone. >> i've got to say. i mean, it's the first time i've ever heard anyone that to me over anyone say that to me over decades.to anyone say that to me over decades. to be fair, just put more money in the nhs and don't fiddle with it. i mean, the reality is here that the nhs is fiddle with it. i mean, the realworkingre that the nhs is fiddle with it. i mean, the realworking asthat the nhs is fiddle with it. i mean, the realworking as efficientlyis is fiddle with it. i mean, the realworking as efficiently asis fiddle with it. i mean, the realworking as efficiently as it not working as efficiently as it should be. it does need to be streamlined, doesn't it? it does need to be more efficient . need to be more efficient. >> i honestly think that the people working in the nhs know how to run the service. the doctors have been doing it, the nurses have been doing it, the therapists been doing it therapists have been doing it for know what's best for years. they know what's best and how service. and how to run the service. that's given the resources that's given them the resources to please keep to do it. and please don't keep fiddling if there was fiddling with it. if there was a magic solution, then surely governments over the decades would have found it. they haven't found it. governments haven't found it. governments have fiddled with it, made it a little bit better, and made it a little bit better, and made it a little worse. just leave it little bit worse. just leave it alone it to make alone but money into it to make it properly. and that will

it work properly. and that will help the problem. >> really interesting. how much do you think staff retention would help matters when it comes to waiting lists? we hear this morning that half of nhs workers are looking for jobs outside morning that half of nhs workers are looking forjobs outside of are looking for jobs outside of the nhs . the nhs. >> yes, sadly, that doesn't surprise me . as we've said, surprise me. as we've said, there's a there's a lot of work in nhs, there's a great deal of stress in nhs, long waiting lists, difficulty to get access to those services. there's a lot of abuse comes to the staff when they've been sitting in casualty departments for 10 or 15 hours. you it's not an easy job. you know, it's not an easy job. people want to carry on working. they're just. but i really do think that putting more money to help the staff there already and to recruit more staff wouldn't , to recruit more staff wouldn't, would not solve the problem. it's not that simple, but would simply help the problem. the terms and conditions just aren't bad, frankly . you just need to bad, frankly. you just need to retain the staff and retain the staff. you need better working conditions and better pay . conditions and better pay. >> the problem is that many people have argued this . of

people have argued this. of course. isn't it just a bottomless pit ? the nhs, no bottomless pit? the nhs, no matter how much money you put in, you look at the you look at what it's costing us now and you look how much money has been put in over the last 15 to 20 years. and whatever you put in, it's never enough . never enough. >> there's an element of truth in that. i agree. it's a very expensive way to run a health service, and other countries run a more insurance based schemes and such like. but if we want the nhs as it is, and i think most people in the country probably do on the as it is, probably do on the nhs as it is, and not revert to an american or and not revert to an american or a system, then sadly a european system, then sadly it's cost money. it's it's going to cost money. it's not bottomless pit, big not a bottomless pit, it's a big pit, but not a bottomless pit, but it's not a bottomless pit. and i just think some more money would help the problem enormously. >> okay, doctor barnes , good to >> okay, doctor barnes, good to see you. thanks very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. >> oh, that might get you going this morning. >> yeah, very like you said . >> yeah, very like you said. first time i'd heard that from anyone. >> just don't there's more money. >> f'- money. >> don't fiddle with anything. >> to fair, i have some

>> to be fair, i have some sympathy his view in that sympathy with his view in that politicians do tend tinker at politicians do tend to tinker at the edges of the health service, which doesn't help , but that's which doesn't help, but that's because they're too frightened to do anything else. certainly the conservatives, because they're traditionally not trusted with the nhs. the same. what seems interesting is it's the labour party and wes streeting, who's the shadow health secretary, who over the last couple of years has talked about more reform of the nhs, a bit more, not quite root and branch, but heading in that direction. and he's been able to talk about that in a way that the conservatives simply can't, and if there a labour and if there is a labour government by the end of this yean government by the end of this year, are we going to see significant changes? i don't know that just throwing more money into is the way is it. money into it is the way is it. but mike's in the system . he but mike's in the system. he maybe he knows better. >> he says they know best. >> he says they know best. >> gb news compusa. glad you want to get involved in that. yes, i've remembered it. >> well done, well done. let's take a look at the weather now with alex.

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next. >> hey. good morning to you. it is 627. >> yes it is. thank you. now a new study has revealed that russia, ukraine and china have been named as some of the biggest cybercrime hotspots in the world. that's according to the world. that's according to the world cybercrime index. yeah. >> meanwhile , the uk ranked >> meanwhile, the uk ranked eighth in the list. so what does it mean for britain ? and how it mean for britain? and how much of a threat does a place like moscow or beijing really pose? >> well, security specialist will geddes joins us now. good to see you this morning. well, what do you make of it? is it a surprise that russia is one of the worst perpetrators of this? >> not ellie, it >> no, not really ellie, it doesn't a much of doesn't come as a much of a surprise anybody, surprise to anybody, particularly because there've been high profile been some pretty high profile attacks of attacks that have come out of russia. is interesting, russia. what is interesting, though, which countries though, is which countries actually feature on this top ten list. and if look at list. and if we look at obviously first we look obviously the first six, we look at one, ukraine, at russia, number one, ukraine, number two, china number three,

which me because which surprised me because i would have thought china would have been number two. and then we have the united states, then we have the united states, then we we have we have nigeria, and we have romania the sort of top, top romania as the sort of top, top five, like, or six. and five, if you like, or six. and in terms of the types of threats , this survey has been very, very cleverly put together and they've been very diligent about who utilised because the who they've utilised because the one thing that we know about cybercrime is that you can conceal your origin, your location, by using things like virtual private networks, and you can't simply go on data such as who's been prosecuted, what legal cases have been brought. and therefore you have to look at those that are the poachers turned gamekeepers, if you like, who've in that murky who've operated in that murky sort of grey area between legitimate and non—legitimate cyber operations. >> when we talk about cybercrime, are we eliminating are we are we looking at a completely different area to government related attacks because obviously you sort of think of china as a government.

i mean, they've got almost like entire villages set up as sort of cyber attack centres, haven't they, is, is that an entirely different thing when we look at this index? >> not necessarily . vie. excuse >> not necessarily. vie. excuse me, you have a lot of the states that will use proxies, so they'll use private sort of individuals or small groups to actually carry out some of the attacks on their behalf. so if you're looking at something like a distributed denial of service, a distributed denial of service, a ddos know them , which is a ddos as we know them, which is where will bombard where they will bombard a website, could be a website, it could be a government website, it could be a trade website, and they'll take down. may use sort take it down. they may use sort of to do that. so they of proxies to do that. so they won't necessarily have their own government units , government cybercrime units, because it also gives them plausible deniability. they plausible deniability. and they can say this was nothing to do with us. these were individual actors acting on their own behalf. but the one thing that this excuse me, the survey doesn't cover , which is an doesn't cover, which is an emerging threat, is al and also something which has always been

around, which is social engineering. now, where you have technology , it could be that you technology, it could be that you were introduced to an email, an image , a file that you click on, image, a file that you click on, you know, absentmindedly and it downloads a virus, or it downloads a virus, or it downloads some sort of ransomware to your device where we're seeing a greater emergence is in where ai is using vocal recognition , is using vocal recognition, is using vocal mimicking of, say, a member of your family or someone that you believe to be your bank. or it could be a family member that may try to extort from you, and then there's the traditional social engineering. i mean, there's great book. if any of there's a great book. if any of there's a great book. if any of the viewers want to, to, to read called the art of intrusion by a chap called kevin mitnick, where he talks about where individuals call with confidence and call up with confidence and speak to you and you have an actual with these actual dialogue with these individuals , and where we're individuals, and where we're becoming of becoming more distrusting of technology we hear a voice, technology when we hear a voice, a human voice, we can, if they sound confident enough and they sound confident enough and they sound knowledgeable enough about who what our account is, who we are, what our account is, we're more to be duped we're more likely to be duped

into scammed . into being scammed. >> and you can understand that it's very sophisticated, it's getting very sophisticated, isn't aware do think isn't it? how aware do you think uk businesses government uk businesses and government departments are about this level of cyber crime? and how prepared are we for breaches? >> we're really well prepared. i mean, in this country, incredibly well prepared. gchq is constantly battling the onslaught of cyber attacks which come into this country and particularly for our infrastructure . so there are infrastructure. so there are concerns about certainly things like internet of things and the more reliant that we are on these things to hold our lives. and if you think about this, this contains everything . it this contains everything. it contains our it contains our finance. it contains our finance. it contains family numbers, contains our our family numbers, our business, our social identity. i mean, this provides the tapestry of who our the entire tapestry of who our personalities are and how we live our lives . so, you know, i live our lives. so, you know, i know a lot of people who are moving to the good old moving back to the good old nokia analogue phones because they disconnect to a they want to disconnect to a certain but you can't certain extent, but you can't beat, i was saying to, to beat, as i was saying to, to some of your other guests this morning, a good morning, you can't beat a good old like old face to face like we're having now. old face to face like we're

hav no? now. >> no? >> no? >> well, that's true, and a lot of people will agree. there are so many people who go, you're absolutely right, will. it's absolutely right, will. but it's absolutely right, will. but it's a and it doesn't a modern age and it doesn't happen, does it? well, not not to extent. to the same extent. >> mean, here's a question >> i mean, here's a question i can ask both of you. stephen and ellie, off top of ellie, could you off the top of your recall the telephone your head, recall the telephone numbers the three most numbers for the three most important people in lives? no. >> yes. oh >> yes. oh >> could you. yeah. >> could you. yeah. >> but then i'm a bit of a geek with things like that. >> yeah, he's a bit of a geek. don't ask him. >> but i certainly agree most people wouldn't to. people wouldn't be able to. >> you this is >> yeah, you see, and this is our reliance technology yes our reliance on technology yes i do, i personally do it because for the simple reason is if you forget your phone, your phone collapses you or dies on you. >> and the thing is, we can't always rely on these. i mean, if you phone, for you have an apple phone, for example, automatic example, and you have automatic updates software , updates set for your software, how times have you been how many times have you been on there it hasn't updated it? there and it hasn't updated it? it you there's an it will tell you there's an update. so it's there's a update. so it's there's still a huge reliance human huge reliance on us as human beings to, manage these beings to, to manage these devices. and the same thing with our telephone numbers , because

our telephone numbers, because if you lose that number, you know, you want to call your fiance or you want to call your partner and you don't memorise that number, you're very that number, you're in a very tncky that number, you're in a very tricky aren't you? tricky spot, aren't you? >> some homework to >> oh, i've got some homework to do. i've got some homework do. yeah i've got some homework to i'll start memorising. to do. i'll start memorising. >> does >> i'll tell you what it does frighten that frighten me, though, that i mean, say governments, mean, i'd say governments, businesses, it, businesses, all the rest of it, but individuals it's constant i >> -- >> yeah. what, what we're getting now messages from companies we've heard of companies we've never heard of that supposedly on the that were supposedly on the subscribe for, you know, subscribe list for, you know, tweets and phone calls and dead phone calls. yeah. it never ends >> no, it never ends. and the thing we've got to always rely on, and this is something i say that prevails across the security industry and security advice that i give to anybody is trust your instinct. trust your gut. so when you get that email that comes through, the one thing they're always thing that they're always looking is to get an looking to do is to get an emotive reaction out you, to emotive reaction out of you, to get panic, to get you to get you to panic, to get you to respond thinking. so respond without thinking. so it could your could be, you know, your bank accounts your accounts being frozen, your family trouble , and family members in trouble, and you're immediately, and you won't necessarily think pragmatically and logically.

just take a deep breath for 10s. have a look at it and think about whether you should click on link , download that file on that link, download that file or open that picture. >> okay. >> yeah, okay. >> yeah, okay. >> good advice. well, thank >> very good advice. well, thank you very much indeed. well, i'd be ones from the tax be getting ones from the tax office lately have i'm office lately have you. i'm going , you office lately have you. i'm going, you know office lately have you. i'm going , you know you've only got going, you know you've only got one of those. >> yay hmrc. yeah hmrc, you know you've only got 24 hours to pay your outstanding tax bill. same thing . thing. >> was it a phone call? no, i got a phone call that was probably really probably, probably really probably, probably an probably am in trouble, no. it's like an automated thing. and it was like, oh, you're in big trouble and you haven't paid tax and all the rest, but, you can connect to someone now you press this to someone now if you press this number. i was like, no, i'm all right. thanks. if they really needed be on the needed me, they'd be on the phone themselves. exactly. phone themselves. well, exactly. >> if you're not >> i think that's. if you're not sure, delete up sure, just delete or hang up because will try and get because they will try and get hold again. exactly hold of you again. exactly >> good advice. now over £2 billion to spent billion is expected to be spent on accommodation this on temporary accommodation this yeah on temporary accommodation this year. that's according to

disclosures from around 100 councils in england. >> the shortage in social >> well, the shortage in social homes has forced individuals and families into homelessness , and families into homelessness, and often in cramped and unsuitable temporary accommodation miles away from where they work and where their support networks are. >> well, now, some are calling for the government to prioritise legal migrants over asylum seekers. our national reporter , seekers. our national reporter, theo chikomba, has been looking into the housing crisis for millions of people. >> having a home is a dream. private rental prices have soared and landlords are evicting record number of tenants . tenants. >> this is now the 15th time i'm moving in a hotel room. as you can see, always having luggage. >> chris, from manchester, has beenin >> chris, from manchester, has been in and out of temporary accommodation for six months, costing manchester city council nearly £10,000. last year he lost his job and his home after being diagnosed with a long time chronic disease. >> what i know is that our maya

is definitely complaining about how the british government is taking care of the migrants in terms of housing, where when he surely should be on it. regarding his own legal migrant citizen and worst of it, regarding his own legal migrant citizen and worst of it , veteran citizen and worst of it, veteran and there have been i've been left in the streets last year, 109,000 people were living in temporary accommodation , temporary accommodation, according to the charity shelter. >> they say the government needs to increase funding in support services and build a more social housing if it wants to end homelessness for good. the cost of housing homeless people in temporary accommodation is putting local authorities on a bnnk putting local authorities on a brink of financial ruin, according to dozens of council leaders. they say the rising cost of living, unaffordable rent and a lack of social homes is forcing more and more people

into homelessness in response to government, say councils have a responsibility to help families find a new home and we are giving councils over £12 billion over three years to help do this. the government have already exited 100 hotels previously used to house asylum seekers. >> good timing coming in today will it? >> martin is one of around 150 people the homeless charity , the people the homeless charity, the hope centre in northampton is attempting to get off the street this month. the charity say they are stretched as they are seeing are stretched as they are seeing a higher than normal number of cases. cgses. >> cases. >> one of the big issues, you know, here in west northamptonshire is the budgets are just not available. so, you know , we have a lack of housing, know, we have a lack of housing, a lack of funding for houses , a lack of funding for houses, the team that are trying to support to , us to move people on support to, us to move people on now, they are facing the same barriers. we face that there's just not enough provision. and they rely on central government budget to make a difference , budget to make a difference, because there isn't enough

flexibility within the local budget to actually support more and more people. it's a crisis leaving many individuals and families in a constant search for security, not knowing where they'll end up. >> theo chikomba gb news. >> theo chikomba gb news. >> that's still to come for you. what are labour's plans to fix buses across britain? there aren't enough of them. we'll find out in a couple of minutes

641. time to have a look at the front pages for you this morning. sickness claims up by a third in tory heartlands. says the time is in the telegraph this morning. >> biden warns iran not to attack israel as he reaffirms his support . his support. >> stamp gate returns to the headunes >> stamp gate returns to the headlines as the mail says, rogue firms are landing

thousands of innocent britons with £5 penalties. >> the express says patients are benefiting from a radical new nhs plan to fast track care and free up beds by providing same day emergency care, and the sun focuses on the grand national as police mount one of their biggest ever operations to stop protesters . well, joining us now protesters. well, joining us now to go through the papers this morning is former special adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley and former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire. really good to see you both. this morning. and scarlett, let's start with you, we? the front page of you, shall we? the front page of the eye this morning is about labour's to fix uk buses . labour's plans to fix uk buses. >> i think it's more people take buses than take trains, than take trains. massive. i mean, probably three times as many. we go on and on about trains and meanwhile buses have been getting worse and worse and worse, particularly poorly outside london and outside the big cities . i mean, if you're if big cities. i mean, if you're if you're a sort of teenager in rural britain, i mean, the odds

of you being able to get out without a car, i mean , it's just without a car, i mean, it's just terrible. so what they're going to do is, is , is they're going to do is, is, is they're going to do is, is, is they're going to do is, is, is they're going to do the same as andy burnham is doing in manchester, is actually put them into public service , so that, so that we service, so that, so that we have a proper bus service that works for the people. i mean, it should never have been privatised . privatised. >> well, that's the issue, isn't it, charlie? you know , mind you, it, charlie? you know, mind you, i mean, the argument with that is because it's been privatised and therefore needs to make a profit. being reduced profit. it's being reduced because people are because not enough people are using because not enough people are usi|well, is right. and >> well, that is right. and i think , this government's sort think, this government's sort of. yes, you're always i of. yes, you're always right. i would never i would never countenance what you're saying, stephen. god you're always stephen. i god you're always right in my i and i. but the government would say that it's a given heavily subsidised train a bus fares to people. i think they captured about £2 didn't they. so particularly in the north of england you can get around for £2 bus fares because most people it's about

encouraging people use the encouraging people to use the buses i think scarlett buses because i think scarlett is right. more people buses because i think scarlett is use right. more people buses because i think scarlett is use the right. more people buses because i think scarlett is use the local1t. more people buses because i think scarlett is use the local busiore people buses because i think scarlett is use the local bus network)le do use the local bus network than the trains, but than they do the trains, but it's important to make sure that the buses do run on time, that they're maintained. what bothers me than else about me more than anything else about the is the amount of fare the buses is the amount of fare dodgers that you see these days, and it all too in and i see it all too often in london, particularly the london, particularly on the night bus , if you're getting the night bus, if you're getting the night bus, if you're getting the night bus, if you're getting the night bus, or could be a very early morning bus, actually, if you want to say, what are you doing? get off. if you're coming in, you're coming into gb news very early morning. very early in the morning. >> not pretend that >> charlie, do not pretend that you bus in this morning you took a bus in this morning and maybe not on this occasion, but i have taken a bus on many occasions. >> but it does. it does bother me the amount of fare dodgers that don't the fare, because that don't pay the fare, because it makes the cost of the buses more expensive for everybody else . else. >> yeah. and it's really tough for bus driver, actually. for the bus driver, actually. i mean, you you them getting mean, you you see them getting on because you, i take on because like you, i take a lot . lot. >> you want conductors back, scarlett. >> well, well i, i used to know

quite a few conductors and they, they wouldn't , they wouldn't they wouldn't, they wouldn't argue toss with with argue the toss with with somebody . i argue the toss with with somebody. i mean no, you were thrown off particularly a young man or a group of young men and particularly in the evenings . particularly in the evenings. and they just, they just shrug and it happen. and is and let it happen. and it is really, really difficult and, and honestly , i just think the and honestly, i just think the least people can do is pay for the buses because otherwise we lose them. yeah, yeah. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> a fair point, charlie, let's take a look at the front page of the times, shall we? and is the times, shall we? and this is sickness. are rising in sickness. claims are rising in every constituency in the country. >> yes. and it's an interesting headune >> yes. and it's an interesting headline from the times that says that the claims hits says that the claims rise hits conservative heartlands the most. now there is an increase in the number of people claiming, sickness benefit or incapacity benefit in those constituencies. but the if you read a bit more into the piece , read a bit more into the piece, it is still the case that in labour constituencies, that is where the majority of claims are made. not quite sure , made. now, i'm not quite sure, really what the distinction is now you know,

now between, you know, conservative, constituency versus a labour constituency. it's the country total . it's about the country in total. and the reality is that there are more claims being made . a are more claims being made. a lot of that is due to mental health, illness obviously health, illness and obviously that falls on the back of, i think, covid, where people are still struggling, still are struggling, particularly that particularly young people that didn't that social didn't have that social interaction when they were sort of lockdowns things of those lockdowns and things like . so we're an like that. so we're seeing an increase in number of people increase in the number of people claiming the claiming right across the country benefit and country incapacity benefit and i think a lot of that also in the tory heartlands is where you have an older population as well, an ageing population. we always sometimes think that in some conservative associations , some conservative associations, in conservative constituencies that more affluent it that it's more affluent and it might tend to be that way, but you also then have an ageing and an population. so when an older population. so when people why is people sort of bemoan why is money funding going into, money or funding going into, those, know, hartford for those, you know, hartford for hertfordshire, for example, or those home counties, it tends to be because there is an ageing population and more people that are going to end up using the nhs and medical services and

health the long health services in the long term. is a another term. but it's it is a another headune term. but it's it is a another headline that i don't think will be welcome news by the, by the health secretary or the government . government. >> i mean it's a very strange headline. it's as if it's like taken from a labour press release. right i mean, who cares whether whether it's in labour constituencies or tory constituency ? and it's about constituency? and it's about i mean, you're right in real terms , it's labour in percentages, it's tories. but what what is really, really worrying is the levels of sickness in this country. and i mean, i think what the times is saying is this is real. this is not people skiving off, this is people who can't work. and if we look at it, it's particularly the sort of, 45 to 60, it's the is the old older people . and obviously old older people. and obviously lots of them are, are on waiting lists waiting for operations sort of hip and knee. and a

friend of mine who was i've forgotten whether it was her hip or her knee who was incredibly fit. she was a rower and has had to stop, and she said, well , the to stop, and she said, well, the doctor said, if you don't get an operation soon, you'll just start getting fat because you won't able to move and then won't be able to move and then you'll get depressed. so actually, problem is , is actually, the problem is, is thatis actually, the problem is, is that is that if because of the nhs waiting lists , people get nhs waiting lists, people get sicker and. >> well, yeah . >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> yeah. i mean it's a fair it's a fair point mind you don't not getting older. i got my i bought multi—vitamins yesterday. oh yeahi multi—vitamins yesterday. oh yeah i was told by my better half that you should have multi—vitamins. so i ended up getting 50 plus. oh which was very depressing. and i also had to buy some, some joint, you know, joint cod liver oil. well, no, because i thought , oh, of no, because i thought, oh, of course you can't have that. vegetarian alternatives. >> you feeling good? >> you feeling good? >> well no, i've only had one. >> well no, i've only had one. >> but you know what 50 plus charlie 50 plus.

>> and who's the older gentleman who's a 50 plus four. >> why is that. >> why is that. >> oh god. i he'sjust had his >> oh god. i he's just had his very big birthday. >> charlie, you don't look a day over 49. >> it's hard to believe, but actually, stephen, what you should do and what we all should do is have vitamin d, during the winter, because we don't get enough sunshine. >> we don't need it. we don't needit >> we don't need it. we don't need it during the summer. but it's really important. the geneticist steve jones, who knows a, wrote a whole book about it, says that that, you know, sunshine is really good for us. >> you can feel it instantly, can't you, when you step out in the sun. yeah. even if it's winter sun, you instantly your mood is lifted. >> well, mean, i mean, london >> well, i mean, i mean, london dunng >> well, i mean, i mean, london during summer is a during the summer is a completely different place to be. are smiling be. people are smiling and they're . they're happy. >> can you? >> beat it. can you? >> beat it. can you? >> know we love the sun. >> i know we love the sun. >> i know we love the sun. >> we do the sun. we do >> we do love the sun. we do love the sun. charlie, can we have a at fake stamps in have a look at fake stamps in the mail? yes, because there's more concern about fake more concern about these fake stamps. tell you what stamps. well, i'll tell you what i about this before we i don't get about this before we get into the nitty gritty. and i

hate sound like i'm being hate to sound like i'm being captain sensible over but captain sensible over here, but i've ever bought stamps i've only ever bought stamps from a post office, so if you buy them, it's happening at the post office as well. it can't be. it can't be. >> well, i'm still slightly perplexed . who's buying these perplexed. who's buying these stamps in the first place. i've not letter or a card for not sent a letter or a card for miserable devil. well, i just everything's now on text or email or online or you pick up the phone and you have a problem. you are. i've not bought a stamp for. i wouldn't even much costs even know how much one costs these £1.35? these days. is it £1.35? >> yes. >> yes. >> you can tell i've not bought. i was sort of way off. >> that is enough to make you not send christmas cards. no, those of us of a certain age actually do have to spend a lot on cards saying, we're terribly sorry you're partner has sorry that you're partner has died, though. i mean, well, that's cheery scarlet, i know, but but there are times when actually only a car or a letter will do, and texts and emails do not work well. >> i still buy cards and things, but i will. i'll deliver them.

so i'll see. you know, friends who at christmas i'll have them out with my birthday cards. and yours en route. yes, in yours is still en route. yes, in fact, i've identified it. it's still in the shop. and it's there. waiting, waiting with the big number 49 on your. >> are you seven weeks late? >> are you seven weeks late? >> st giles' weeks late. >> st giles' weeks late. >> well, i don't like to. >> well, i don't like to. >> not that he's counting. >> not that he's counting. >> yes. no. yes, yes, but but it's a serious story because the people that do buy stamps are obviously, to when they obviously, having to when they go collect post because go and collect the post because somebody them a card in the somebody sent them a card in the post, obviously said, oh, you've got actually come collect got to actually come and collect it. are fined, or it. and they are then fined, or they to pick up the for they have to pick up the tab for a card that's been sent to them, because there's a fraudulent stamp on it. and so nobody's actually it, it's actually paid it, but it's effectively, people are effectively, people that are buying retailers are buying up these fake stamps that they've got from a wholesaler for as little as £0.04 per stamp. so that's why people are it's a to race the bottom, as opposed to going through the post office and royal mail, and obviously it's hitting people like

scarlett was saying that people who do buy stems and people who do do need them because it's the hardest, because you know, hardest, because it's, you know, £5 they charge don't they? £5 they charge you, don't they? >> it's not the person >> but also it's not the person who bought the stamp pays who bought the stamp who pays for the person who gets for it. it's the person who gets the yes. for it. it's the person who gets the so ;. for it. it's the person who gets the so thank you. i've got >> so thank you. i've got a letter i want. and then i letter i don't want. and then i have to. i to pay £5 for have to. i have to pay £5 for the pleasure. have to. i have to pay £5 for the wellsure. don't. >> well just don't. >> well just don't. >> well, and get it. >> well, don't go and get it. that's what my father law that's what my father in law did. because christmas. did. because with his christmas. with card. no. with his christmas card. no. well, fell off. well, the stamp fell off. apparently it was a real apparently me. so it was a real stamp. only buy real stamps , stamp. i only buy real stamps, but the stamp off, so he but the stamp fell off, so he just well, i got to get just said, well, i got to get it. >> stamp. >> stamp. >> did you send us a christmas card? we didn't get it because we wouldn't pay £5 pick we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it ”p, pay we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, pay me enough. we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, that pay me enough. we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, that must pay me enough. we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, that must have ay me enough. we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, that must have happenengh. we wouldn't pay £5 to pick it up, that must have happened t0|. >> that must have happened to your card. i did stamp your birthday card. i did stamp must have fallen off when i sent it here this studio. must have fallen off when i sent it hyes. this studio. >> yes. >> em- ea” ea.- ea.— >> should we take a look at passport costs ? it's got very passport costs? it's got very expensive, hasn't it, to update. going there. expensive, hasn't it, to update. goi going there. expensive, hasn't it, to update. goi going upre. expensive, hasn't it, to update. goi going up again. i mean, so >> going up again. i mean, so first you can't get first of all, you can't get a passport within, you know, weeks and weeks and people people

can't go on holiday. >> i'll tell you what though. you mentioned it because everyone says and everyone always says that. and last mentioned that we last time we mentioned that we had barrage of emails or gb had a barrage of emails or gb news compusa messages and have people saying, oh, i've got it in, i've got it in three weeks, got it in six weeks. >> mine was really embarrassing, i got it, i got it within ten days. >> well, there you go, you see. >> well, there you go, you see. >> and it was when everybody was sort of i mean, this wasn't this yeah sort of i mean, this wasn't this year. i mean, this was this was, i think it was the, the year before last. and i sent it off thinking , before last. and i sent it off thinking, it's all right, i'm not going to go abroad for ages. and then somebody said, i want you to work in holland. and i thought, well, ha ha, ten days. and sensible, and being really sensible, of course, i sent it off on the day of a mail strike, so it didn't get there anyway, but lots of people don't get have, have had problems getting their passports, but now the it's getting really, really expensive to have them and it's sort of. and the other thing is , is it's and the other thing is, is it's so awful these days when you go

abroad in europe and instead of just being able to go, you have to queue up, it takes you ages . to queue up, it takes you ages. if you try going on the eurostar, you have to get there a year, a year early. you might as well be a year. you get there at least an hour before, if not two, because you have to go through the french. i mean, it's just oh, they are deliberately slow, though, aren't they? >> i did that on eurostar and they the french are they are. the french are deliberately processing you. >> yeah, yeah, but it's not nice. i mean , you think, oh i nice. i mean, you think, oh i just i just want to see. >> i don't think £88.50 is too bad if you've got a passport for ten years. >> i don't think so either. >> i don't think so either. >> i don't think so either. >> i don't think that's. >> i don't think that's. >> but then i don't queue either at these queues. do you not. no, no you do. >> you've a diplomatic passport. >> i turn up and i think somebody looks at me at the tail and oh , i'll take a and thinks, oh, i'll take a liking, i'll send him through. and to people in and so i'll wave to people in the queue as i board up the back of the plane through the vip .

of the plane through the vip. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and if only that were true , >> and if only that were true, but, but my passport, i think i was one of the last few to get the, the original still the, the burgundy , burgundy passport. but burgundy, burgundy passport. but i know you didn't. you apply. i got a blue one as soon as i. >> i've got a blue one. yeah. >> i've got a blue one. yeah. >> you're delighted with your blue, black one blue, but then i had a black one or, know, very, very or, or, you know, very, very dark back in the day. dark blue back in the day. >> like you will have had. >> like you will have had. >> yes we are. >> yes, yes we are. >>— >> yes, yes we are. >> are of an age. >> we are of an age. >> we are of an age. >> we're old enough that we used to love passports to have really love passports because proper . because also they were proper. >> they hard. yeah. >> they were hard. yeah. >> they were hard. yeah. >> cards. >> like cards. >> like cards. >> oh, made you feel really >> oh, they made you feel really important. yeah. >> there you go. >> really nice. there you go. you two are too young to remember all of that. >> i know ellie, who probably isn't a day over 25. no. >> oh, please . >> oh, please. >> oh, please. >> not even in that decade. >> not even in that decade. >> you can stay . >> you can stay. >> you can stay. >> oh, dear. >> oh, dear. >> we've got 50s to talk about teabags. charlie. >> i'll tell you what i was going to do. oh, i was going to save teabags because it might be quite good one for longer. quite a good one for longer. >> then. so what? >> see you then. so what? >> see you then. so what? >> just going to do was

>> i was just going to do was because we mentioned bosses. >> i was just going to do was becoh,3 we mentioned bosses. >> i was just going to do was becoh,3 we nlet's»ned bosses. >> i was just going to do was becoh,3 we nlet's talk bosses. >> i was just going to do was becoh,3 we nlet's talk about sses. >> oh, yeah. let's talk about bosses. randles been >> oh, yeah. let's talk about botouch. randles been in touch. >> hi andrew. saying yesterday got on a bus, asked for got on a bus, was asked for £9.30 so went £9.30 for the journey. so went across road, got a cab cost across the road, got a cab cost me £7.50 to my door. >> cheaper get on a taxi. >> cheaper to get on a taxi. >> cheaper to get on a taxi. >> that's, that's the >> see that's, that's the problem it? problem isn't it? >> that's a scandal . that >> but that's a scandal. that is, scandal. it's a scandal. >> that is a scandal. >> that is a scandal. >> so there you go. >> so there you go. >> i get on the bus in >> well, i get on the bus in london. £0.20 if you london. it's about £0.20 if you get bus after been get on the bus after you've been on the tube. yeah. for the first half an hour, it's about £0.20. it's amazing. it's half an hour, it's about £0.20. it's amazing . it's good it's amazing. it's very good value. it's amazing. it's very good val|oh you go. >> oh there you go. >> oh there you go. >> yeah. thank you both. >> yeah. right. thank you both. we'll you a bit later on. >> thanks very much. >> thanks very much. >> let's have a look at the weather this morning. weather for you this morning. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. some damp , drizzly weather across damp, drizzly weather across southern parts today, but elsewhere it's looking largely dry and pretty warm. like i said though, across southern parts here there will be outbreaks of

drizzly going to be quite drizzly rain going to be quite grey and bit dank here. further north though, lots of fine weather to be had, especially across parts of scotland. northern england, a decent amount with the amount of sunshine and with the sunshine it is also going to feel pretty warm. temperatures are likely to be higher than they have been recently. could see around 20 21 see highs of around 20 or 21 celsius, which make it the celsius, which would make it the warmest day of the year so far. later on, as we go through the end of the day and overnight, we are going see some are going to see some wet weather spilling way across weather spilling its way across parts ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts northern parts of north wales, northern england across to england and across scotland to some this wet weather could some of this wet weather could be pretty heavy, though in the south likely to stay south it is likely to stay mostly pretty mostly dry or be it pretty cloudy because of the cloud. temperatures won't drop much, so it going be a mild start it is going to be a mild start to day tomorrow. most places to the day tomorrow. most places starting figures as we starting in double figures as we go through friday itself then, and a bit of a north south split across northern parts. there will be further outbreaks of rain of could be rain. some of them could be quite persistent, a bit heavy at times, across times, particularly across western scotland, western parts of scotland, perhaps england,

perhaps north northwest england, as well. further south, though largely bright , as well. further south, though largely bright, some largely dry and bright, some decent sunshine. and with that, whilst temperatures might be whilst temperatures might not be quite as high as today, it is still going to be warm. getting into high teens. a similar into the high teens. a similar picture on picture for many of us on saturday. i'll see you again sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good morning to you . it's >> good morning to you. it's 7:00, thursday, the 11th of april. today is there a cabinet revolt on the cards? the prime minister faces a backlash from his government after threatening to leave the european court of human rights over the rwanda policy . policy. >> with division rife in the conservative party at large , conservative party at large, rishi sunak can't really afford splits within his inner circle.

that seems to be exactly what he's getting . he's getting. >> government figures show sickness benefits across britain rose in every constituency last year , with tory heartland seeing year, with tory heartland seeing some of the biggest increases . some of the biggest increases. >> rishi sunak admits that stubbornly high nhs waiting list one of the biggest failures in office. as the study reveals, nearly half of nhs workers are looking at jobs outside the health service . health service. >> us president joe biden urges iran against launching a missile strike on israel as he vows ironclad support for netanyahu . ironclad support for netanyahu. >> the singer rihanna is accused of sexualising christianity after appearing on a magazine cover dressed as a provocative nun. so we're asking , should nun. so we're asking, should christians be protected from mockery ? mockery? >> and the darcy days are over ? >> and the darcy days are over? bridget jones fans are up in arms as colin firth is reportedly set to miss out on the fourth instalment of the

film . film. >> it's a bit damp and drizzly across southern parts today, but warm and much drier and brighter. further north. i'll have more in the full forecast coming up . coming up. >> good morning to you. i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie costello and this is breakfast on . on. gb news. sa. oh no. sl johnson sl morning sl good morning sl have been has beenin sl good morning sl have been has been in touch about buses says the problem with buses are exposed bus stops not great for the uk weather. i think that's a really valid point actually a point. how miserable is it when you stood in a bus stop and it's blowing a hoolie? there's obviously a demand for buses, though. >> whenever i wait for a bus, i do get the bus quite often. >> you do actually, don't you? >> you do actually, don't you? >> i'm always on a bus. yeah, always about on public transport. but there's always loads of us the queue when we loads of us in the queue when we queue up bus . and there

queue up for a bus. and there are few minutes london. are very few minutes in london. we're quite that sense. we're quite lucky in that sense. >> yeah, there's always, >> well, yeah, there's always, always for buses. always a demand for the buses. >> there parts of the >> but there are parts of the country where i'm actually country so where i'm actually from, rural essex, there'd from, in rural essex, there'd be a yeah. a bus every hour. yeah. >> why i don't use buses. >> i don't think we'd see you on a bus. no, we've got such a nice car. >> no, but you know what it is. it's things. it's things you learn as a child, and where i'm from, there were sort of buses each. you know, if you stood on one side of the road, it took you to ulverston. and if you stood on the other side of the road, it took you to barrow. so you just stood till the you just stood there till the bus and then you got bus came, and then you got on the bus. >> how frequent would they >> and how frequent would they be? i know . >> oh, i don't know. >> oh, i don't know. >> i can't remember, but but the point just on the point is you just got on the bus. whereas now when you come down somewhere like london down to somewhere like london and well, you've got and it's like, well, you've got to one, a or a 37 b and to get a one, a or a 37 b and it's all different routes and different and i cannot get my head around it. i did once sit on a bus going round and round the isle of dogs years ago,

going, i don't know where, i don't where i am, i don't don't know where i am, i don't know get off, i'm know where i get off, i'm useless like that. >> oh, i have to ask questions because just bus. because you just got on the bus. >> i what you mean. >> yeah, i get what you mean. there's a lot choices there's a lot of choices in there. there's too much choice. yeah. loved it moving yeah. i, i loved it moving to london having much london and having so much choice, bit intimidating. >> yeah , i wasn't sure where to tap. >> and. do you tap off? are you sure? >> oh, you. >> oh, you. >> that's right. okay. that's along. i've been. i used to get the ticket. you the money in the ticket. you put the money in that and sort all that slot and it sort out all your coins. >> now you use phone. >> yeah. now you use your phone. >> yeah. now you use your phone. >> really? >> oh, really? >> oh, really? >> yeah. about £0.20. >> yeah. it's about £0.20. >> yeah. it's about £0.20. >> oh, well. >> it's very good. oh, well. >> it's very good. oh, well. >> well, been in touch. >> well, dean's been in touch. dean says journey dean bovington says any journey on area around on the bus in my area around nonh on the bus in my area around north yorkshire is £2. well worth the money? >> oh, and on passports. i'm really enjoying this forum , by really enjoying this forum, by the way. >> you could log in on your own computer. >> i know i like to share with you, so jeanette says on the passport it she applied last friday and it's delivered today. less than a week. yeah. very good. yeah we've been hearing that, haven't we? i feel like we have a quite good sense. we have

a good litmus test of how the british people are feeling about certain issues and passports. i think happy. think you're all quite happy. >> . >> yes. >> yes. >> it's quite quick to get a passport these days. is what we're hearing on the ground anyway, this new anyway, ellie is loving this new way with us. way of communicating with us. >> and it's the best way now to get touch with us, you just get in touch with us, you just go instead of sending emails go instead of sending the emails through used to. very through like you used to. very old now you just old fashioned. now you just go to news .com/ your say, to gb news .com/ your say, here's how you do it. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us at gb news. com forward slash your way by commenting. you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you to me bev you can even talk to me bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family. simply go to gbnews.com slash your gbnews.com forward slash your say . oh look at you in the front say. oh look at you in the front of the advert . of the advert. >> i think that's very dapper. >> i think that's very dapper. >> it was excellent. i didn't like the voiceover , but, like the voiceover, but, i thought the first few didn't ask you. i thought the first few

frames of that were excellent. if you're listening the if you're listening on the radio, i can only apologise. you've on something you've missed out on something cracking very good, cracking there. yeah, very good, very cracking there. yeah, very good, verso do in touch. we're >> so do get in touch. we're really enjoying reading of really enjoying reading all of your comments and all of the stories about stories that we're talking about today. .com/ usa now today. gb news .com/ usa now our main today rishi sunak main news today and rishi sunak will face a or at least could face a cabinet revolt if he decides to leave the european court of human rights. yes, at least 12 cabinet members are to oppose leaving , least 12 cabinet members are to oppose leaving, including least 12 cabinet members are to oppose leaving , including jeremy oppose leaving, including jeremy hunt, james cleverly and alex chalk . chalk. >> well, it comes after calls from tory mps on the back benches, at least to quit the echr. benches, at least to quit the echr . and that follows, amongst echr. and that follows, amongst other things, the landmark ruling. this week that governments have a duty to protect people from climate change. >> well, we're now joined by our political correspondent olivia utley , who is live for us in utley, who is live for us in westminster. good to see you this morning, olivia. and do you think a cabinet could be think a cabinet revolt could be on ? on the cards? >> well, it's possible that a cabinet revolt really could be on the cards now. >> rishi sunak hasn't actually

come out and said that he would like government policy to be working towards leaving the echr . but yesterday the energy secretary, claire coutinho , who secretary, claire coutinho, who is a very close personal ally of rishi sunaks , said that she rishi sunaks, said that she found that ruling that swiss ruling concerning and made sort of noises as though she would like to see britain get out of the echr . now lots of people in the echr. now lots of people in westminster thought that that was rishi sunak , sort of testing was rishi sunak, sort of testing the ground, testing the water to see if there was enthusiasm in the country for getting out of the country for getting out of the echr. if there is, then rishi sunak could end up putting that on the conservative manifesto. not only would it get britain out of a sticky situation in regards to this climate ruling, because of that swiss ruling, which is legally binding, we could be in a position if we stay in the echr , position if we stay in the echr, where climate activists could sue the government for failing to meet net zero, emissions.

targets, but also the rwanda policy, that flagship policy to try and get a hold of illegal immigration is being held up by judgements from the european court, and rishi sunak is minded to think that if we just got out of the echr altogether , then the of the echr altogether, then the rwanda policy would be up and running in no time at all now would he actually push that through. and if he did , how through. and if he did, how would the cabinet feel about it? well, it sounds as though they wouldn't be too positive about it at all. it looks as though the cabinet split about 2 to 1 on staying leaving, and on staying versus leaving, and some very senior cabinet ministers, including david cameron james cleverly, the cameron and james cleverly, the foreign and home secretaries are opposed to leaving the echr. that said , within the that said, within the conservative parliamentary party, there are plenty of backbenchers who have been calling for a long time now to get out of the echr, including former home secretary suella

braverman, former immigration minister robert jenrick. braverman, former immigration minister robert jenrick . and minister robert jenrick. and there is a poll suggesting that half of all 2019 conservative voters would like to see britain get out of the echr. so whichever path rishi sunak decides to go down, there will be plenty who support him within his party. but he does look quite likely to face a rebellion and a rebellion at a time like this, when his authority is already pretty shaky, could be very damaging indeed. >> yeah, he can't win whatever he does on that one, can he , can he does on that one, can he, can we have a look at this story which is dominating the times this morning and sickness benefits in every benefits on the rise in every constituency in the country . constituency in the country. >> yeah. and what's so interesting about this is it is literally every constituency . literally every constituency. usually what we see is higher benefits, claims in very urban areas, in cities where poverty is very high, but in the sort of commuter belt areas in nice

rural towns, we don't tend to see very high, benefits. we tend to see very high employment. now that all seems to be changing. and in fact , the biggest rise in and in fact, the biggest rise in benefits claims is in tory heartland constituencies like those commuter town , areas and those commuter town, areas and those commuter town, areas and those rural areas which have previously had very high employment. this is a huge problem for rishi sunak and jeremy hunt in some cities in the uk, including birmingham and liverpool, 1 in 5 young adults that's aged between 18 and 30 are out of work due to sickness. and over the last couple of years we have seen a huge rise in the people on long time sickness leave because of mental health problems. those now account for 70% of all people claiming sickness benefits and not working . jeremy hunt has not working. jeremy hunt has tried to tackle this problem both in the last budget in march and in the one before in

november. they were both , dubbed november. they were both, dubbed back to work budgets. but as yet, we don't really seem to be seeing the effects of that. and britain really is suffering from a worklessness crisis . a worklessness crisis. >> okay, for now, olivia, thanks very much indeed . very much indeed. >> now, president joe biden has promised ironclad support for israel as he warned iran to not launch a missile attack. >> well, it comes as fears grow that tehran could retaliate following a strike in syria that did kill some major senior iranians . iranians. >> while israel has denied responsibility for the attack . responsibility for the attack. >> earlier, we spoke to the political analyst eric ham . political analyst eric ham. >> biden is continuing to remain very close to israel, even if it's costing him enormous and valuable political capital, particularly in an election yeah particularly in an election year. and so we are seeing that netanyahu has said that he has a date in mind for this military operation and tarafa, we know a

number of countries, including the united states, has attempted to try to stop him from doing so, but it appears as though he's moving forward with this plan, even as many are calling it a potential humanitarian catastrophe if he does so. and so i think what we're seeing here is there's still that tension. i think behind the scenes . but what we continue to scenes. but what we continue to see, at least publicly, is joe biden remains and continues to showcase that america will stand with israel, even if many within his own party and even within the country, aren't willing to do so. >> i mean, this is the problem, isn't it, that that joe biden andindeed isn't it, that that joe biden and indeed our leaders here in the uk face, but particularly in washington in whatever their concerns are about what israel is doing, whatever they want the country to do differently, every time they make that public. it has considerable geopolitical implications. >> it does. and i think what we're seeing is a level of

dupuchy we're seeing is a level of duplicity playing out right now, because you've got the biden administration saying that they want a two state solution, that they want to actually get aid on they want to actually get aid on the ground. to many of these palestinian refugees, even after we continue to see, of course, the transfer of weapons and arms sales to israel. and so i think what you're seeing right now is a number of those crucial independent voters . their independent voters. their approval rating of joe biden is at 21% over his handling of this ongoing crisis in gaza right now. and so what we're seeing is not only is joe biden losing crucial support from within his own party, but also those important independents who could sway the election , they, too, sway the election, they, too, are now beginning to flee. joe biden 713. >> let's have a look at some of the other stories heading into the other stories heading into the newsroom today. >> and the metropolitan police will reinvestigate the decision to charge caroline flack with assault, as new witness evidence may be available . while the tv

may be available. while the tv star was facing prosecution for assaulting her boyfriend when she took her own life back in february 2020, the crown prosecution service had said flack should only get a caution, but it was overturned when the metropolitan police appealed the decision and she was charged . decision and she was charged. >> sources close to the royal mail have said. china is behind a rise in counterfeit stamps, which has landed victims with £5 penalties. that's in the telegraph this morning. it's understood the forgeries are being bought unwittingly by small retailers who are not required to buy stamps directly from the royal mail. >> the cost of a uk passport will rise to one of the highest in europe from today. for an adult, it will set you back £88.50 a 17% rise and a child's passport will rise from £53.50 to £57.50. now a massive

rockfall has occurred on the jurassic for coast the second time in 48 hours. >> yeah, thousands of tonnes of rock broke from the cliff in dorset on tuesday afternoon. >> well, this has led to fears that the cliffs could be too dangerous for holidaymakers to visit. >> well, let's talk to geologist at the university of oslo, dougal jerram. >> good to see you this morning. do we know, dougal, what's going on? why is this happening? >> well, the jurassic coast, as you know, is one of our sort of spectacular landscapes. and it's made up of mainly sedimentary rocks, are actually quite rocks, which are actually quite soft . they form these fantastic soft. they form these fantastic cliffs make layers and cliffs and they make layers and layers of, of strata. now the problem is that those rocks are not completely solid. they can take in water. so they're at the coast. they're they're not only susceptible to water coming in from from rain , but they're also from from rain, but they're also susceptible to storm surges from, from the sea. and both of those things can destabilise the, the cliffs and make and make them dangerous .

make them dangerous. >> how concerned should we be by this, dougal, i mean two large rockfalls in 48 hours. how common is that? or do you think thatis common is that? or do you think that is a result of the stormy weather and the heavy rains that we've been seeing? >> well, indeed we do know that sort of landfalls tend to occur when ground is saturated, when the ground is saturated, it's very and also it's very, very wet. and also particularly after, after storms because potentially waves can destabilise the lower parts of the cliff. and erode away material that was holding, holding the cliff up in the first place. so i think the key thing to think about is that obviously after very, very wet weather and stormy weather, that's the most likely times that's the most likely times that cliffs will be that the cliffs will be unstable, a lot of people getting very concerned about this, very upset and i can absolutely understand it. i wonder, though, at what point do , especially as a geologist, you have to sit back and say , well, have to sit back and say, well, this is nature. this is what happened , has happened, you happened, has happened, you know, for time and memorial. yes >> i mean, there is there is an

element of common sense. if i take a group of geologists into the field, as we often do, and we want to go and look the we want to go and look at the rocks, we would limit the amount of would close of time we would be up close against those rocks, particularly if they're against against those rocks, p.cliff|larly if they're against against those rocks, p.cliff|larly we 1ey're against against those rocks, p.cliff|larly we 1ey're ialso st against those rocks, p.cliff|larly we 1ey're also have a cliff face. we would also have hard hats. have safety hard hats. we'd have safety equipment but we would equipment with us, but we would definitely equipment with us, but we would defin hanging underneath time hanging around underneath cliffs , not just because the cliffs, not just because the cliffs, not just because the cliff might i mean, if cliff might collapse. i mean, if a was to land on the nest a bird was to land on the nest and dislodge rock, that's also and dislodge a rock, that's also and dislodge a rock, that's also a so in sense, the, a danger. so in a sense, the, you know, that go very, you know, paths that go very, very to the cliff edge or very close to the cliff edge or when you're on the beach, don't set up your, your sort of beach stall close the cliffs. these stall close to the cliffs. these are sort of common sense, safety things can do things that you can do yourselves . yourselves. >> but the jurassic coast is one of most popular beauty spots of the most popular beauty spots in this country, isn't it, dougal? i mean, there are going to massive concerns to be massive safety concerns about heading the beach. >> there is . and ultimately, as >> there is. and ultimately, as i say, the thing is that i say, the key thing is that when you have water saturated ground or when you have big storms that can bring a surge in, so what what we're talking

about is, is extreme weather conditions that actually start to erode the cliff and, and make the cliff different to what it was the day before, and therefore it becomes more unstable. the unstable. so these are the things look out things that we need to look out for . for. >> okay, dougal, really good to see you this morning. thank you very much i've always very much indeed. i've always fancied heading down to lyme regis and not being . i don't regis and not being. i don't think i have, but, you know, going seeing because it's all french. lieutenant's woman's all set down there, isn't it. and just going wandering and seeing what you can find. >> it's such gorgeous . >> oh, it's such gorgeous. >> oh, it's such gorgeous. >> head there. take a few days. >> oh. all right. thanks next week. weekend. week. next weekend. >> your lawn looking, by >> how's your lawn looking, by the was very saturated. >> tis saturated, we still >> tis saturated, but we still saturated . but we have bought saturated. but we have bought those spiky things that you stand on. and then you walk, and i wouldn't know. >> i don't have a garden. >> i don't have a garden. >> aerate your lawn. >> aerate your lawn. >> oh, well, we're going to , >> oh, well, we're going to, we're going to aerate it with. oh, right. >> you aerated yourself. >> have you aerated yourself. >> have you aerated yourself. >> i haven't done it yet. >> yeah. i haven't done it yet. no. do you strap them to the >> what do you strap them to the bottom of your and then.

bottom of your feet and then. yeah. i'll have to see yeah. well i'll have to see with great big nails the bottom great big nails at the bottom like that. >> and you you film that >> and you sort of you film that for me when you know that your lawn not the lawn definitely not on the stamps issue. oh, yeah, patricia's been in touch. morning to you, patricia. she's a very big fan of mine. is she? yeah. doesn't think much you, yeah. doesn't think much of you, she says i use the royal mail. >> collect that back. all right, read that first sentence. >> my favourite >> good morning to my favourite breakfast couple. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> favourite breakfast couple? >> favourite breakfast couple? >> the mail. collect >> i use the royal mail. collect service. you pay postage online and postage collects the and the postage collects the letters from the house. and you get prepaid address labels, which you just stick onto the letter . no fuss, no queuing. letter. no fuss, no queuing. personal service available to all with the internet. love you stephen. >> love you , ellie and stephen. >> love you, ellie and stephen. yes. >> all right. >> all right. >> so cute, but that's that's a really good idea. >> i didn't know that existed. >> i didn't know that existed. >> no, that's very good. >> no, that's very good. >> now, that's very modern, isn't it? you get the post collected and. >> that sounds lovely. >> oh, that sounds lovely. >> oh, that sounds lovely. >> because go the >> yeah, because i go to the post office all the time. i don't know what charlie rowley

is to. i'm there the is up to. i'm there all the time. my great. >> and my post is great. >> and my post is great. >> am a lot. i've got >> i am there a lot. i've got a really nice posting as well. who's, and we always even just see him out and about. he always stop, have a wave. he likes the dog. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> do you think you have to be lovely poster? lovely to be a poster? >> i don't i think you do. >> i don't know, i think you do. >> i don't know, i think you do. >> i don't know, i think you do. >> i think the job description. >> well, you've got to be good at mixing with people, haven't you? do you know his name? >> do you know his name? >> do you know his name? >> post? i don't. >> your post? no, i don't. >> your post? no, i don't. >> his name. no, i don't know his name. >> his name. no, i don't know his you're gonna have to find >> you're gonna have to find that out. >> watching. i don't >> probably watching. i don't know your name. >> lovely well. he'd >> my one's lovely as well. he'd stop the street and say, stop me in the street and say, i've something for you. stop me in the street and say, i've yeah?thing for you. >> oh, yeah? >> oh, yeah? >> yeah. where live. >> yeah, yeah. where you live. >> yeah, yeah. where you live. >> they out. dig >> and then they dig it out. dig it you. it out for you. >> yeah. and i always feel really because we're often really bad because we're often asleep afternoon, aren't asleep in the afternoon, aren't we? houses? we? in our separate houses? yeah. he'd yeah. mustard. and he he'd he'd knock him. knock me. oh. sorry to wake him. we way. so lovely. we work in this way. so lovely. >> there you see, >> oh, there you go. you see, you good poster. you can't beat a good poster. you beat it. you can't. can't beat it. >> it's very good, >> no you can't. it's very good, very good. >> let's very good. » let-s >> right. let's find out what the going do for the weather's going to do for today. we're this today. well, we're asleep this afternoon in separate houses. alex you alex burkill will tell you what's you're what's happening if you're out and about.

>> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news. weather update brought to you by the met office. some damp, drizzly weather across southern parts today, but elsewhere it's looking largely dry and pretty warm. like i said though, across southern parts here there will be outbreaks of drizzly rain going to be quite grey and bit dank here. further north though, lots of fine weather to be had, especially across parts of scotland, northern decent northern england, a decent amount sunshine with the amount of sunshine and with the sunshine. going to sunshine. it is also going to feel pretty warm. temperatures are likely to be higher than they have been recently. could see of around 20 or 21 see highs of around 20 or 21 celsius, which would the celsius, which would make it the warmest of the year so far. warmest day of the year so far. later on, as go through the later on, as we go through the end of the day and overnight, we are going see some wet are going to see some wet weather its way across weather spilling its way across parts northern ireland parts of northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts wales, northern parts of north wales, northern england and across scotland. to some weather could some of this wet weather could be pretty heavy, though in the south likely to stay

south it is likely to stay mostly dry or be it pretty cloudy because the cloud. cloudy because of the cloud. temperatures drop much, so temperatures won't drop much, so it going a mild start it is going to be a mild start to day tomorrow. most places to the day tomorrow. most places starting double figures starting in double figures as we go through friday itself then, and a bit of a north south split across northern parts, there will further outbreaks will be further outbreaks of rain. could be rain. some of them could be quite persistent, a bit heavy at times, across times, particularly across western scotland , western parts of scotland, perhaps northwest england western parts of scotland, peiwell. northwest england western parts of scotland, peiwell. furtherorthwest england western parts of scotland, peiwell. further south,;t england western parts of scotland, peiwell. further south, though nd as well. further south, though largely dry and bright, some decent sunshine . and with that, decent sunshine. and with that, whilst temperatures might not be quite as high as today, it is still going to be warm getting into high teens. similar into the high teens. a similar picture on picture for many of us on saturday. you again sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . solar sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> would you not do that just about as we're about to come back on. >> sorry , sorry you share. >> sorry, sorry you share. >> sorry, sorry you share. >> i just said my legs really hurt after pilates yesterday.

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>> it's very painful, very painful. it's very humbling experience as well. i shake the whole time. i'm like this because i can't hold my body weight up. >> is getting better though? >> is it getting better though? well, you've doing for well, you've been doing it for six now. well, you've been doing it for six yeah. now. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, i've had about 20 >> no, i mean, i've had about 20 classes. no, i'm not getting any better . oh, i wonder when that better. oh, i wonder when that will i've heard 30 will kick in. i've heard 30 classes is the trick. >> it's the key. >> it's the key. >> yes. i'm ten away. all right, talk to again in ten classes. talk to me again in ten classes. >> . >> okay. >> okay. >> now, should we talk about what's to come up next? what's going to come up next? >> i think we better. >> i think we better. >> yes. because still to come we're going be should we're going to be asking should christianity be protected from mockery? because of mockery? now this is because of an advert front of an advert in front of a magazine, believe, with magazine, i believe, with rihanna, it's in a sexy, sexy nun outfit . nun outfit. >> yeah. let us know what you think of that. if you've seen those images, we'll be debating that.

next. now the singer rihanna has left fans furious after posing as a nun for the cover of interview magazine's latest issue . magazine's latest issue. >> there it is. yes. well, i wouldn't say posing as a nun, wouldn't say posing as a nun, would you? because she's. she's got some of the habit on, but not a lot. put it that way. if you're listening on the radio. yes. anyway, it comes as a tv advert has come under fire as it shows italian nuns being offered cnsps shows italian nuns being offered crisps instead of communion wafers. let's have a look at that , yes . that, yes. >> and it looks. >> and it looks. >> it looks as though they are quite enjoying those as well. i'm not sure i how i feel about that. obviously in the catholic faith, the host is the body of christ, isn't it? >> well, in all all christianity , i thought in, anglican church it was symbolic of well, well,

yes it is. yes, it is symbolic. >> but so in the catholic church that would be the flesh of jesus christ. >> well, in that sense, if it was blessed , it would still be. was blessed, it would still be. >> yeah. i suppose anyway, that's what we think about it. critics have deemed the tv ad for amica chips blasphemous, and have demanded it to be taken down immediately. so today we're asking should christianity be protected from mockery? >> well, let's talk to, priest and writer, the reverend michael coren and catholic priest father ed tomlinson . ed tomlinson. >> good to see you both. father, can i start with you? what? what do you think? should there be a level protection so that level of protection so that images like this of rihanna and that tv advert just shouldn't be allowed ? allowed? >> well, i think, we're dealing here with an increasing problem of the moronic meets the mystical in the west . mystical in the west. >> now, there is such a dumbed

down culture that i think a lot of people, not even intentionally, end up offending christians just due to their pig ignorance, really. and i think with the crisp advert you could see that people thought, well, it's a wafer, let's make it a chris, when in fact we're deaung chris, when in fact we're dealing here. as you rightly said , with deeply held beliefs said, with deeply held beliefs by catholics that actually at the mass, a beautiful exchange of gifts occur when we offer ourselves to god in the forms of bread and wine, representing all we are and all we have. and then at the mass they are transformed mystically into the body and blood of christ. so it couldn't be a more holy and sacred moment. and to mock that is absolutely outrageous. but i think i would be very careful about how you would police that. i think in our present culture where we've seen global powers take a bit too much power away from us, i would be quite nervous about handing even more

power to those people, because actually, often they are the very people pushing for the discrimination of christians , discrimination of christians, reverend michael, let's bring you in at this stage. so we've got father ed there talking about free speech and the importance of it. but i suppose one of the things that is really irking people is the fact that christianity seems to be the only religion which can be mocked . you wouldn't see this mocked. you wouldn't see this happen with a with a sexy hijab, for example . for example. >> well, i mean, first of all, i have to say that calling people pig have to say that calling people pig ignorant, i don't think is very helpful in this debate. i would agree that certainly we shouldn't have protection of any religion , but the fact is that religion, but the fact is that christianity seems to be the only faith can be openly and widely mocked . now, mockery of widely mocked. now, mockery of religion is not necessarily a bad thing, but you saw what happened, for example, in paris, tragically, obscenely, with, charlie hebdo and yes, any other religion outside of christianity, whatever denomination, probably would not

be mocked, i want a level playing field. i want separation of church and state, but we don't really have that. we seem to have a state increasingly empowered and emboldened to mock what safe and what it thinks. it's safe and won't fight back, which is christianity. that's not something i want fighting back as such. i just want more implicit respect from people. now, the, the front of the magazine, i don't know, it's advertising, advertising is hardly moral, is it? it's amoral. if anything. the italian, commercial. it's not funny. it's a very tired trope. and these people have paid lots of money to produce ads, and that's the best they can come up with. what i do worry about, actually, though, and oddly enough, ironically enough, richard referred this richard dawkins referred to this . it's cultural christianity, which question because i think which i question because i think you're either a christian or you're either a christian or you're not. but we do have a culture in the west founded on certain themes, we seem to certain themes, and we seem to be , drip, mocking and be drip, drip, mocking them and

abusing . if that goes on, abusing them. if that goes on, eventually i think we're going to turn around and say , what to turn around and say, what have we left to defend and have we got left to defend and what to us? what is left to defend us? >> i in what sense, michael? i mean , i don't quite understand mean, i don't quite understand your your quite what you're getting at in terms of there'd be nothing left to defend. >> what do we stand for in the west? we talk about liberal values and western values , but values and western values, but what actually are they? i think they're founded in judeo—christian beliefs. and there is very beliefs. those foundations , elements of what foundations, elements of what we're meant to hold dear. we seem to take a delight in mocking and abusing. and this is seen in other parts of the world. i mean, if you if you go to the middle east, if you spend any time in russia, they certainly that we're certainly think that we're almost a of almost committing a form of cultural that's my cultural suicide. so that's my real concern. it's not another ad, another comedy sketch that thinks it's okay and safe to poke fun at christians . thinks it's okay and safe to poke fun at christians. i don't particularly care what i do care

aboutis particularly care what i do care about is a future next generation that doesn't actually know what it stands for, whether it's a belief system based on christianity , or a culture based christianity, or a culture based on christian virtues or father ed, what do you make of it? >> well, i think actually when i said pig ignorance , i think said pig ignorance, i think that's the very best we can say. i'd be more worried if they had made that poster of rhiannon not out of ignorance , because at out of ignorance, because at that point you're looking at somebody trying to make the sacred profane, and that becomes a more dark and sinister. a lot more dark and sinister. i think, you're into the realm of wanting to do something really quite nasty, because of course, there's a purity and a virtue in there's a purity and a virtue in the religious life. when done properly, which nuns take on and to want to sexualise, that would disturb me hugely if it wasn't just ignorance. and i think there is a huge debate to be had here about why it is that in the west today we're so uncomfortable with themes like obedience, virtue, holiness and

goodness. there seems to be a revelling in things that when you really follow them to their end. conclusion lead us in a worse and not a better direction. it's interesting that you you both are in particularly father, you seem to emphasise a lot of what we're getting through on the messages this morning with people. >> don't any of this >> people don't like any of this , but they still don't think it should be policed in a sense. there should still be that freedom of expression, even if it's only so we can we can voice our distaste. >> that's one of the very virtues i was talking about. those christian values. i mean, in what we take for granted the ability to mock things that are actually devout and held very dear by many people , that dear by many people, that doesn't exist in most of the world. and that's not hyperbole. in most of the world, you can't speak your mind . you couldn't speak your mind. you couldn't make an ad, you couldn't mock something that has power and influence. so isn't it ironic that we are attacking what we actually gives us the freedom to

express it? you know, i was watching , oddly express it? you know, i was watching, oddly enough, just last night. i was watching the debate that took place years ago over , monty python's of over, monty python's life of bnan over, monty python's life of brian muggeridge brian with malcolm muggeridge and the bishop of southwark being incredibly self—righteous, actually , if you watch that film actually, if you watch that film today, it's a very powerful message . it has a lot to say message. it has a lot to say about religion and religiosity and legalism and love. none of these things do . they're just these things do. they're just very basic, tired, mocking of what people have mocked for the last 20 years because they can get away with it. and that's a really very sad commentary, isn't it , okay. look, we've got isn't it, okay. look, we've got to leave it there, sadly, but really good to talk to both of you this morning, reverend michael and father michael coren and father ed tomlinson. much indeed. >> thank you . and you will have >> thank you. and you will have a view on that as well at home. so get in touch us on gb so do get in touch with us on gb news say. still to news .com/ your say. still to come we're going to be talking to the shadow secretary of state for transport. >> but next we're going to be looking at homelessness

i >> welcome back to breakfast. now, over £2 billion is expected to be spent on temporary accommodation this year. that's according to around 100 councils in england . in england. >> well, the shortage in social homes has forced individuals and families into homelessness. and now some are calling for the government to prioritise legal migrants over asylum seekers. >> well, our national reporter theo chikomba, has been looking into the housing crisis for millions of people, having a home is a dream. >> private rental prices have soared and landlords are evicting record number of tenants. >> this is now the 15th time i'm moving in a hotel room . as you moving in a hotel room. as you can see, always having luggage. >> chris, from manchester, has beenin >> chris, from manchester, has been in and out of temporary accommodation for six months,

costing manchester city council nearly £10,000. last year he lost his job and his home after being diagnosed with a long term chronic disease. >> what i know is that our maya is definitely complaining about how the british government is taking care of the migrants in terms of housing, we then he surely should not be on it. regarding his own legal migrant citizen and worst of it, regarding his own legal migrant citizen and worst of it , veteran citizen and worst of it, veteran and i have been have been left in the streets last year, 109,000 people were living in temporary accommodation, according to the charity shelter. >> they say the government needs to increase funding in support services and build a more social housing if it wants to end homelessness for good. the cost of housing homeless people in temporary accommodation is putting local authorities on the

bnnk putting local authorities on the brink of financial ruin, according to dozens of council leaders. they say the rising cost of living unaffordable rent and a lack of social homes is forcing more and more people into homelessness. in response to government say councils have a responsibility to help families find a new home and we are giving councils over £12 billion over three years to help do this. the government have already exited 100 hotels previously used to house asylum seekers . seekers. >> good timing coming in today. will it ? will it? >> martin is one of around 150 people the homeless charity the hope centre in northampton is attempting to get off the street this month . the charity say they this month. the charity say they are stretched as they are seeing are stretched as they are seeing a higher than normal number of cgses. >> cases. >> one of the big issues , you >> one of the big issues, you know, here in west northamptonshire is the budgets are just not available. so, you know, we have a lack of housing, a lack of funding for houses, the team that are trying to support us to, to move people on

now, they are facing the same barriers we face that there's just not enough provision. and they rely on central government budget to make a difference, because there isn't enough flexibility within the local budget to actually support more and more people. >> it's a crisis, leaving many individuals and families in a constant search for security , constant search for security, not knowing where they'll end up.theo not knowing where they'll end up. theo chikomba . gb news. up. theo chikomba. gb news. >> now, do you stay with us? still to come, britain is spending nearly half of its foreign aid budget the uk , foreign aid budget in the uk, but is that right? we'll

>> right at 747. >> right at 747. >> time to see what's in the papers this morning. with former special adviser to michael gove . special adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley and former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire , adviser scarlett mccgwire, neither of whom are employable these neither of whom are employable the clearly , that's why we're

>> clearly, that's why we're here. yes. jobs, scarlett, let's talk about foreign aid in the telegraph, should we? >> okay. so we think that the foreign aid budget goes to places like africa to, to india , places like africa to, to india, india, to really help. actually, most of it is spent in this country , a lot of it on country, a lot of it on ukrainian refugees. i mean, all andifs ukrainian refugees. i mean, all and it's in it's completely wrecking it. so we've, we've lowered the budget and then we spend it here. and actually that's not what the budget is supposed to be. the budget is supposed to be. the budget is supposed to be going to foreign aid to make sure to actually help people, to stay in their own country. i mean, that's that's part of, you own country. i mean, that's that's part of , you know, if that's part of, you know, if we're going to be really awful about foreign aid , it is to make about foreign aid, it is to make the countries that are difficult better. so that people don't have to try and get, try and get that worked out. well? that ever worked out. well? yeah, i think it probably has worked. >> obviously were helping to

fund space program. >> obviously were helping to fun no space program. >> obviously were helping to fun no , space program. >> obviously were helping to fun no , no, space program. >> obviously were helping to fun no , no, i space program. >> obviously were helping to fun no , no, i didpace program. >> obviously were helping to fun no , no, i did mentionjram. >> obviously were helping to fun no , no, i did mention africa >> no, no, i did mention africa where actually an awful lot of, of, of money has gone into to health projects . yes, which is, health projects. yes, which is, which is really, really important . and, but now, you important. and, but now, you know, all the people who are being paid to have, ukrainian refugees in their homes, they're getting it from the foreign aid budget . budget. >> ali. yeah. and i think there's some, it's always a question about the foreign aid budget because, you know , where budget because, you know, where should the money be going? where is it better spent? there's an old firm to be, old firm that used to be, i think, know, aid for trade. think, you know, aid for trade. so you would developing so you would help developing countries , such countries such as india, such as, parts of africa, in order to ensure you could then you have trade deals in the future. so you establish a, a country that's, that's not as obviously rich as the uk, but then you would have a trade deal ongoing to continue to support and effectively the debt the aid effectively the debt or the aid that you've would then be that you've given would then be paid because of way that you've given would then be pawhich because of way that you've given would then be pawhich you've use of way that you've given would then be pawhich you've beenf way that you've given would then be pawhich you've been able way that you've given would then be pawhich you've been able to y in which you've been able to help. don't that

help. but we don't see that anymore days. it does anymore these days. it does sometimes you're sometimes feel that you're paying, sometimes feel that you're paying, example, the paying, for example, just the one gave, the one that you gave, which is the indian space where indian sort of space race, where indian sort of space race, where india emerging economy. india is an emerging economy. it's doing well. so, you it's doing rather well. so, you know, a question know, there is a question about whether still whether we should still be funding projects. funding certain projects. but that's think , you know, that's why i think, you know, the department international the department for international trade up then within trade was rolled up then within the, the foreign office because the, the foreign office because the left hand didn't quite know what the right hand was doing. and mixed signals from the and mixed mixed signals from the foreign office and the department trade. >> yeah . the thing is, tony, it >> yeah. the thing is, tony, it wasn't the department for international was international trade, it was international department for international development. and, and quite important. i and it's quite important. i mean, you know, they they do a they spend a lot of money trying to find vaccines for malaria, for, for cholera , i mean that for, for cholera, i mean that what, what, what they do is, is , what, what, what they do is, is, is it's not just aid for trade. it's actually saying, you know, we're a country that although we feel very poor, actually, we're quite rich. and we can help the developing world and we can, we

can, we can actually it's all well and good us saying that or the people who were the the people who were on the poverty country are poverty line in this country are going banks or can't going to food banks or can't afford whatever it is, afford to, or whatever it is, they wouldn't say we're rich they wouldn't say we're a rich country. say, well , give that they wouldn't say we're a rich countryto say, well , give that they wouldn't say we're a rich countryto us. 1, well , give that money to us. >> yeah, the point is that >> yeah, well, the point is that we , do we? i mean, i mean, we don't, do we? i mean, i mean, it's though it were we i it's not as though it were we i mean, the amount spent on foreign aid is, is really, really tiny. it used to be nought point seven, which is what blair and brown came up with. and then cameron put in the tories actually put it in, bofis the tories actually put it in, boris then put it down. so it's not even 0.7. it's nothing like i mean it's a pathetic amount that actually made a real, real difference out there. but what i'm saying is, is it's not even there anymore. it is now being spentin there anymore. it is now being spent in britain on things like ukrainian refugees, £7.6 billion in 2022. >> it's not nothing. >> it's not nothing. >> it's not a lot. when you look at when you look at when you look at at britain. but it's, it's but but but what i'm saying

stephen, is it is being spent in this country . stephen, is it is being spent in this country. it is being spent. it is being spent on refugees . it is being spent on refugees. and, we need to be we need to be honest about it . instead of honest about it. instead of saying, oh, you know, with the foreign aid budget is far too high. well, well, it's not because abroad , because it's not going abroad, but it is. >> fine point it is. you're right though, it's very alarming. still, when you have people, are people, you know who are veterans, served veterans, who have served in this who still this country, who are still sleeping rough sleeping sleeping rough or sleeping on the you know, we the streets, and, you know, we need them. need to help them. >> not the fault of >> but that's not the fault of the i mean, is the foreign aid. i mean, that is terrible i mean, something. >> no, but the argument is get rid foreign budget >> no, but the argument is get rid spendforeign budget >> no, but the argument is get rid spend iteign budget >> no, but the argument is get rid spend it onn budget >> no, but the argument is get rid spend it on them.»udget and spend it on them. yeah. >> well, that's what >> well, they that's not what that's what ever happens. i that's not what ever happens. i mean, is terrible the way mean, it is terrible the way the, armed forces treat the, the armed forces treat their mean, their veterans actually. i mean, i remember i was working with a homeless charity and they said 1 in homeless people are in 4 homeless people are veterans actually you veterans because actually you get used to you get institutionalised. yeah you do. and then you and then when they let go, you've got nowhere. let you go, you've got nowhere. you don't know how to cope. yeah >> charlie, let's take a look at

the male, shall we? and angela rayner has been accused of rank hypocrisy. yes. >> has this is a story >> she has this is a story that's not going anywhere as much as the labour party. i think, would hope she can think, would hope that she can sort her head in sort of bury her head in the sand. it all relates to a sand. and it all relates to a property that she owned and a series of hypocrisies, actually. so, she was against the right to buy policy, something that came in under margaret thatcher. she then bought this, this house that right? to buy. that she owned, right? to buy. she then it and allegations she then sold it and allegations labelled against her is that she failed to pay the capital gains tax it , she failed to pay the capital gains tax it, she had two. failed to pay the capital gains tax it , she had two. there tax on it, she had two. there were two properties with her and her husband. at the time of her kids, which was her primary home, which wasn't which was the one that she should have paid her tax on, where she didn't, where was she registered on the electoral roll where she voted? that's , did have that's unclear, and did she have a brother living in one a brother that was living in one of properties she of the properties where she was claiming a single person's discount from from from the council. are all council. now, there are all these allegations labelled against that against her. the woman that would on to be the secretary would go on to be the secretary of state housing,

of state for housing, communities and local government. so this is why it's a serious accusation. but she's been accused of hypocrisy because she's asked lots of people declare their people to declare their tax returns and returns at various points. and she's to she's obviously refusing to declare she says declare the advice that she says she's received, which exonerates her from all these her from all of these allegations. the that allegations. but the fact that she about it and allegations. but the fact that shepublish about it and allegations. but the fact that shepublish that about it and allegations. but the fact that shepublish that advice ut it and allegations. but the fact that shepublish that advice ,t it and allegations. but the fact that shepublish that advice , and nd we publish that advice, and anyone will say that they've actually it, means that actually seen it, means that this story is just going to run and run. yeah. >> mean, she's she's got be >> i mean, she's she's got to be a clearer this, hasn't she? >> but what we know is that the tories after a scalp. i tories are after a scalp. i mean, they're desperate . mean, they're desperate. >> but come on, forget. >> i know, but come on, forget. i you're right. >> i know, but come on, forget. i i you're right. >> i know, but come on, forget. i i jrighte right. >> i know, but come on, forget. i i fright .right. >> i am right. >> i am right. >> but forget the idea is >> but forget that the idea is the that and what what is, the idea that and what what is, is claiming is that she had a husband and two young children, and yet she didn't live in the same house as them. she lived a mile down the road in somewhere else until she sold it. come on. yeah. going believe yeah. who's going to believe that ? that? >> okay, but what one doesn't, though, she lived there. though, is when she lived there. and what i mean, look, my ex and l, and what i mean, look, my ex and i, together . we've i, we lived together. we've started getting on badly. we

bought another flat for him, it didn't work. we split up, but actually, you know, by the time he sold the flat, which was pretty soon after we split up , i pretty soon after we split up, i mean, he called it his primary residence because that's where he was living. so we don't actually what what and actually know what what was and what . i mean, it's what wasn't. i mean, it's a story that that the daily mail, the daily mail is desperate, but it's not just a paper story. >> yeah. the council that she used to work in, they're investigating the police investigating her. the police now investigating it. so it's a very, serious issue. well very, very serious issue. well it yeah. it is, yeah. >> okay. thank you both. of >> okay. thank you both. out of time. weather. time. here's your weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. some damp , drizzly weather across damp, drizzly weather across southern parts today, but elsewhere looking largely elsewhere it's looking largely dry and pretty warm. like i said though, across southern parts

here there will be outbreaks of drizzly rain going to be quite grey and bit dank here. further north though, lots of fine weather to be had, especially across parts of scotland. northern england, a decent amount the amount of sunshine and with the sunshine it is also going to feel pretty warm. temperatures are likely to be higher than they have been recently, could see highs of around 20 or 21 celsius, make it the celsius, which would make it the warmest day of the year so far. later on, as we go through the end the day and overnight, we end of the day and overnight, we are some wet are going to see some wet weather spilling its way across parts ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts wales, northern parts of north wales, northern england and across scotland. to some wet weather could some of this wet weather could be though. be pretty heavy, though. in the south is likely to stay south it is likely to stay mostly dry or be it pretty cloudy because of the cloud. temperatures won't drop much, so it going to a mild start it is going to be a mild start to day tomorrow. most places to the day tomorrow. most places starting double figures as we starting in double figures as we go through friday itself then, and of a north south split and a bit of a north south split across northern parts. there will outbreaks of will be further outbreaks of rain. some of them could be quite a bit heavy quite persistent, a bit heavy at times, across times, particularly across

western scotland, western parts of scotland, perhaps england perhaps north northwest england as . further south, though as well. further south, though largely dry and bright, some decent sunshine. and with that, whilst temperatures might not be quite as high as today, it is still going be warm. getting still going to be warm. getting into teens . a similar into the high teens. a similar picture us picture for many of us on saturday. see you again sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

burmese government after threatening to leave the european court of human rights over the rwanda policy. >> with division riif at the tory party at large, rishi sunak really can't afford splits within his own inner circle . but

within his own inner circle. but that might be exactly what he's going to get . the show sickness going to get. the show sickness benefits across britain rose in every constituency last year , every constituency last year, with tory heartlands seeing some of the biggest increases . of the biggest increases. >> the prime minister admits that stubbornly high nhs waiting lists are one of the biggest failures in office. as a study reveals, nearly half of workers in the nhs are looking forjobs outside of it . outside of it. >> us president joe biden urges iran against launching a missile strike on israel as he vows ironclad support for netanyahu . ironclad support for netanyahu. >> nearly a fifth of teenagers say the internet is their main source of information about sexual health and relationships. so we're asking, should schools take a greater role ? take a greater role? >> and the darcey days are over. bridget jones fans are up in arms as colin firth is reportedly set to miss out on the fourth instalment of the film .

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change. >> well, we're now joined by our political correspondent olivia utley, who joins us live now from westminster. good to see you this morning, olivia. and do you this morning, olivia. and do you really think rishi sunak could see a revolt on his hands over this? >> well, it all depends really , >> well, it all depends really, on what he does. he hasn't actually yet said that it will be official conservative policy at the next election to withdraw from the echr, but it looks possible for the first time that he might go down that route yesterday. claire coutinho, the energy secretary and a very close personal friend and ally of rishi sunak , said that she of rishi sunak, said that she thought that ruling, that swiss ruling was concerning, suggesting that she might be now pushing to leave the echr and that has been seen in westminster as rishi sunak sort of testing the waters to see if there is an appetite, both in there is an appetite, both in the conservative parliamentary party and, of course, in the wider public, for leaving the echh wider public, for leaving the echr. now, not only would that be convenient for rishi sunak in

that it would get around this swiss ruling . he does not want swiss ruling. he does not want to be in a situation where climate activists could potentially sue the government for failing to meet net zero targets, but also it would remove a big stumbling block in the rwanda plan. at the moment, what keeps happening is that before migrants are actually shipped to off rwanda, they are literally they were taken off planes on the runway back in june 2022 because of a last minute judgement from european court judges . rishi sunak thinks court judges. rishi sunak thinks that perhaps getting out of the echr would remove that stumbling block for him. that said, it is not all plain sailing. there are a lot of cabinet ministers who oppose leaving the echr, including some very senior ones david cameron, james cleverly, the justice secretary himself, alex chalk, tom tugendhat , who alex chalk, tom tugendhat, who says that it would compromise the good friday agreement so essentially rishi sunak is stuck between a rock and a hard place ,

between a rock and a hard place, refused to leave the echr and he risks getting his rwanda plan into trouble again and getting on the wrong side of those right wing tory backbenchers who are so crucial to his success. stay in the leave the echr and he risks annoying his very senior backbenchers who all would like to stay in it. so yet again, there's another headache for the prime minister. yeah well, from that headache to another one then, olivia, what are we to make of these claims in the times this morning and elsewhere that the claims for sickness benefit are on the rise right across the country? >> because obviously that's that's a huge problem in terms of the benefit bill, in terms of the move to get people back to work. do we know a what's driving it? and b, how any government either outgoing or incoming, can deal with it? >> well, it's a really, really interesting question and one that politicians are obviously very keen to get to the bottom of what we've seen in the last few years is specifically a huge rise in the number of people

claiming sickness benefits for mental ill health. in fact, 69% of all sickness benefits are now for mental health problems. there are some conservative mps i've spoken to generally on the right of the party, sort of whispering that perhaps there could be some people who are playing the system, people who quite like being furloughed, for example, during the covid pandemic and just don't really want to go back to work. rishi sunak and jeremy hunt are trying to sort of guard against that by absolutely making sure that work always pays. that it's always you'll always financially you'll always be financially better by going to work than better off by going to work than being at home on benefits. those are the sort of moves they've been making in the last budget. but there are people who feel as though all of that is sort of tinkering around the edges. this is some is an enormous problem in some bits , 1 in 5 working bits of the uk, 1 in 5 working age adults on long terms age adults are on long terms benefits with no plans and no way to get back into the

workforce. that is a huge problem, both for the sake of sort of growing the economy. that was one of rishi sunaks five promises when he took office, and also, of course, because of the enormous benefits bill the country has been racking up over the last few years and will continue to do so. so this is a problem that the chancellor and the prime minister desperately, desperately want to tackle. but at the moment it seems as though ideas quite thin on the ideas are quite thin on the ground. >> okay, for now, thank >> okay, olivia, for now, thank you . you. >> well, meanwhile, prime minister has minister rishi sunak has reportedly said that his biggest failure in the top job is the stubbornly high nhs waiting lists. >> e according e— lists. >> according to reports, >> well, according to reports, this morning, the pm urged junior doctors to accept the pay offer on the table, placing blame on the strikes for the failure to tackle the very long waiting lists. >> well, this comes as a new study has revealed that nearly half of those working in the nhs have been looking forjobs outside the service . outside of the service. >> well, talk to junior >> well, let's talk to junior doctor mukherjee, who doctor bhasha mukherjee, who joins really good to see joins us now. really good to see

you morning. is prime you this morning. is the prime minister right? is this all your fault for going on strike and should you now take the offer ? should you now take the offer? >> i think it's very irresponsible of the prime minister to pass the blame so overtly. when he's trying to retain us as staff. you know , retain us as staff. you know, this dispute has been going on for more than a year now . and to for more than a year now. and to say that it's just the junior doctors fault for the failure of both parties, really to come to a agreement, i think it's very irresponsible. it's very disrespectful towards junior doctors . i mean, if you want doctors. i mean, if you want this workforce to stay in the nhs and uphold the nhs, then this is no way to be speaking off them and to them . off them and to them. >> i mean, you talk about the importance there of retaining staff. what do you make of this out this morning that says nearly of workers are nearly half of nhs workers are spending time looking for work outside of the service? does that surprise you? >> it doesn't surprise me, but i think this is something the

whole country needs to really think about in terms of why we're in this position, that we are in, you know, for me personally, i remember my very first week after joining the personally, i remember my very first week afterjoining the nhs first week after joining the nhs thinking, oh my god, i can't wait to leave this place. and i think we, we, we do have a culture in the nhs of, of, of making even new staff feel very, uncomfortable just because they're sometimes put in situations where they might not be trained enough, they might not be experienced enough, but they have to deal with situations which are beyond their pay grade and also beyond their pay grade and also beyond their experience level. in their experience level. so in that i do. i do think that way, i just do. i do think it's not just about pay, it's also about the way the system is run overall. and what we need to do is, support and, you know , do is, support and, you know, really, really at that very early stage , not feel the minds early stage, not feel the minds of young people in terms of new doctors, new nurses with cynicism and regret of joining

the nhs, i mean, obviously the issue junior doctors have got primarily at the moment, the one that can be sorted out is money. but there's that in itself. even if that's resolved, it doesn't sort out working conditions, does it? and we were talking to a neurologist earlier on who said, well, with the nhs, politicians need to put more money in and stop tinkering at the edges. do you agree with that or do you think that actually some reform is necessary . necessary. >> look, the more money you put in, the more red tape there is going to be in terms of, where that money is put and accounting for it and all the rest of it. so i don't think just putting more money is the answer. i do think, however, that paying your staff appropriately, listening to feel to them, making them feel valued, if it's pay valued, and if it's not pay raises, then make their raises, then at least make their work environment more comfortable. least reduce comfortable. at least reduce some burden of all the some of the burden of all the unnecessary non—patient related paperwork that we have to deal

with. make the job more about what we came in to do. do this job for, which is patient care. and i don't think we spend the majority of our time focused on what we should be doing, which is patients . is patients. >> rishi sunak has spoken directly to junior doctors telling them to accept a pay offer, as it's the most generous for anyone in the public sector anywhere. how close do you think this is to a resolution? >> i don't know if this will be the, the final, offer or if this is going to carry on, because we've seen this now for a whole yeah we've seen this now for a whole year. and, personally, you know, i can see that, that there is dwindling faith in whether the strike action is going to really be resolved by the tory government at all, but i do think that maybe there needs to be more discussion around if there isn't enough money there other ways that junior doctors can be helped. we know the mps

get other perks. for example , get other perks. for example, expenses that they can claim and various other perks, essentially. and we're also a pubuc essentially. and we're also a public servants in the same way. so, you know, if it isn't necessarily a pay rise, give us something else to work with, potentially, okay. doctor mukherjee, to good talk to you this morning. thanks very much indeed. this morning. thanks very much indeed . i'll tell you what, she indeed. i'll tell you what, she makes some valid points. i think part of the issue here has been and they've said it for a long time. not enough discussion? no, not enough . you know, the health not enough. you know, the health secretary, you know, not sitting around table enough with around the table enough with with the junior doctors representatives and discussing what is available, what the opfions what is available, what the options are, what you can realistically do, i don't know. >> well , our realistically do, i don't know. >> well, our first guest probably had that bit right didn't he. where he was saying the doctors and the nurses know best. they know how best to run the system. i don't know if that's really. that's right really. >> don't i'd be because you >> no i don't i'd be because you get entrenched the system, get entrenched in the system, don't you . and in way it's not

don't you. and in a way it's not it's not the people on the front line that are the problem in in money flowing out of the health service. it's the way it's managed , it's the way it's managed, it's the way it's structured. and that's that's the problem. it's things like how many, how many appointments letters do you get? i mean, i get so many appointment letters. it's untrue. >> at £1.38 per postage stamp at 135. >> yeah, yeah. plus plus the envelopes and paper and printing and all the rest of it doesn't take many of them to cost you a few million quid. yeah so it's stuff like that and it's got to be. and procurement and things which need to be sorted out. i don't know. but doctor mukherjee, you're not saying saying the opposite to our neurologist saying, yeah, you don't need to throw more. it's not about throwing more money in. >> more money means more red tape , is what she said. tape, is what she said. >> interesting, isn't it, barry? >> interesting, isn't it, barry? >> let us know what you >> do let us know what you think. gb news compusa. we're still used to that, still getting used to that, aren't we? >> we are, though. >> yes, we are, though.

interestingly if i can log in, here we go, for pam iverson . oh, here we go, for pam iverson. oh, yeah. watching from australia. good morning. prefer the. oh don't miss that bit. don't read that bit, what about colin firth in bridget jones? no, colin firth, it's a fantasy film. and they've dropped the fantasy . they've dropped the fantasy. absolutely ridiculous. don't panic , don't panic. because. panic, don't panic. because. because ellie's already found the solution for you. she's very excited. >> there's going to be a new a new love interest, apparently, for bridget. >> is that right? about a third of her age? >> yeah. toyboy is what people are guessing. oh, leo leo woodall, he was in one day on netflix, so he is a big name at the moment. and apparently or allegedly, he's going to be bridget's new toyboy in the new film. >> you're very excited. >> you're very excited. >> very good. i think , hugh >> very good. i think, hugh grant is in it, who i adore in the originals. he's very funny, isn't he? so it's good that he's staying. >> i think i've seen the first one. >> i think lots of people are

very upset about lack of colin first. did you let us know? would leo do it for you or are you going to miss colin firth? >> you'd be all right, pam. >> you'd be all right, pam. >> you'll be all right. pam. don't panic. yeah, leo is very good. right, onto serious good. all right, onto serious things. home office is things. the home office is unable to confirm how many convicted nationals were convicted foreign nationals were given yes 2023. yes >> responding to a freedom of information request, the home office said it was unable to confirm figures due to a disruption to data systems. >> let's talk to our investigations reporter, charlie peters, who's here. i don't know what to say to you, charlie. we've deported people with a conviction in 2023, but we have no record of how many. could be one could be 50,000. >> they know how many they've deported, but they can't say how many orders are out, because there could be people who've been given orders saying, we will deport and they will deport you. and they haven't that bit yet. so haven't got to that bit yet. so there a gap between that there is a gap between that information. that is information they should and they really should have. and speaking in speaking to senior figures in the home last night, many the home office last night, many

of said we really should of them said we really should have this and they're have this data and they're concerned by the back and forth i've had with the department this week . a bit of context. this week. a bit of context. this is quite important, though, because last year the chief inspector the borders said inspector of the borders said that a big issue with that there is a big issue with information management data information management and data management office . management in the home office. and they did actually point in the response to the foi. the home that there was home office said that there was disruption their systems. disruption to their systems. now, last month, now, earlier last month, the countering illegal migration minister, michael tomlinson. there are two migration ministers now, he said that they had data up to september 2022 on the number of people who've been issued a deportation order, foreign national offenders , but foreign national offenders, but were still living in the community. so as it stands , we community. so as it stands, we simply do not know the number of foreign offenders. people who've either been convicted and are on bail or have been released from prison, who are just living in the community and waiting to be sent away. those are quite concerning . concerning. >> yes. i mean, if we haven't got the figures, how do we track

them down and how do we actually deport well, that is the deport them? well, that is the main and i think they main question, and i think they haven't able to answer that haven't been able to answer that this in conversation this week in my conversation with office. with the home office. >> and have heard from the >> and we have heard from the foreign national offender returns command last year in that report saying that there is no, as they say, single version of the truth on the data on this issue . really, you should have issue. really, you should have that because often talking that because we're often talking about extremely dangerous about some extremely dangerous people teams that work people and the teams that work on in the home on this section in the home office, they regularly office, they are regularly chartering countries office, they are regularly charte there countries office, they are regularly charte there are countries office, they are regularly charte there are major)untries office, they are regularly charte there are major issues; where there are major issues with foreign national offenders. jamaica and albania in particular, in recent years. these are escorted charters , a these are escorted charters, a company returns to those countries, but at the same time , countries, but at the same time, they just don't know how many people they've had. those orders issued against. now, you know, issued against. now, you know, is that because there's a data issue ? is it because there are issue? is it because there are different teams working on that? we're sure. it's we're not sure. but it's information really should have. >> no, definitely is. and it >> no, it definitely is. and it does raise concerns about does also raise concerns about security country, security in this country, doesn't it? >> one of the senior people >> and one of the senior people in home office i spoke to

in the home office i spoke to yesterday said that this comes at time where the detention at a time where the detention estate is really struggling. so they said that it's down to about 2200 now. so the space available to hold people while you prepare for that deportation is dwindling as the numbers of foreign national offenders are rising . the home office home rising. the home office home office said that they don't recognise the claims that i've raised this week in that back and forth correspondence, but they me the data and they didn't give me the data and at the same they also said at the same time they also said they pointed fact that they pointed to the fact that they've deported some 17,200 people january 2019. people since january 2019. but the question remains, how many more people are there waiting and have that order issued against them? >> yeah, charlie, thank you very much indeed. thank you. it just seems preposterous in this day and age that isn't data available in a computer age. if it's been compromised, where's the ? the backup? >> yeah, it's a concern, isn't it? >> even this has got a back up. never mind a home office system. >> well, it's good you're asking the questions, charlie.

someone's got to thank you very much. now a 8:21. let's take a look at the weather now with alex. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. some damp , drizzly weather across damp, drizzly weather across southern parts today, but elsewhere it's looking largely dry and pretty warm. like i said though, across southern parts here there will be outbreaks of drizzly rain going to be quite grey and bit dank here. further north though, lots of fine weather to be had, especially across parts of scotland, northern england, a decent amount of sunshine and with the sunshine it is also going to feel pretty warm. temperatures are likely to be higher than they have been recently. could see around 20 or 21 see highs of around 20 or 21 celsius, which would it the celsius, which would make it the warmest fah warmest day of the year so far. later on, as we go through the end of the day and overnight, we are going to see some wet weather its across

weather spilling its way across parts northern into parts of northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts north wales, northern parts of north wales, northern england across scotland to england and across scotland to some this wet weather could some of this wet weather could be heavy, though. in the be pretty heavy, though. in the south likely stay south it is likely to stay mostly albeit pretty cloudy mostly dry, albeit pretty cloudy because of the cloud. temperatures won't drop much, so it going to be a mild start temperatures won't drop much, so it the )ing to be a mild start temperatures won't drop much, so it the day to be a mild start temperatures won't drop much, so it the day tomorrow.ild start temperatures won't drop much, so it the day tomorrow. mostart temperatures won't drop much, so it the day tomorrow. most places to the day tomorrow. most places starting figures as we starting in double figures as we go through friday itself then, and a bit a north south split and a bit of a north south split across northern parts. there will further outbreaks of will be further outbreaks of rain. them could be rain. some of them could be quite a bit heavy at quite persistent, a bit heavy at times, particularly across western of scotland, western parts of scotland, perhaps north northwest england, as well. further though as well. further south, though largely bright , as well. further south, though largely bright, some largely dry and bright, some decent sunshine. and with that, whilst temperatures might not be quite as today, it is quite as high as today, it is still going to be warm. getting into teens. a similar into the high teens. a similar picture for many us. on picture for many of us. on saturday i'll you again soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> now it's time for our biggest giveaway of the year so far.

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for it now. nearly a fifth of teenagers say that the internet is main source for is their main source for information about health is their main source for inf0|healthy about health is their main source for inf0|healthy relationshipshealth is their main source for inf0|healthy relationships .ealth and healthy relationships. >> yes, well, that's going to go well, isn't frankly oh, well, isn't it? frankly oh, anything on the internet? well, that's according the sex that's according to the sex education forum charity who've highlighted online education is dangerous and exposes young people to untrustworthy information. well, what a shocker. >> yes. so this morning we're asking should schools be taking asking should schools be taking a greater role in sex and relationship education? >> let's talk to parent and medical clinician izzy montague and sex therapist and relationship expert emiliana sylvestri. good to see you both this morning. emiliana, what's your view on who should be taking the lead on this? >> good morning, well, i absolutely think education should be leading this simply because us adults weren't educated at school appropriately on sex education, and many of us don't know much about sex. hence why people are turning to the internet. so for us to expect

children to teach themselves via the internet is just ridiculous . the internet is just ridiculous. they're going to get the wrong information. and what i think people need to understand is the quality our relationships quality of our relationships determines quality of our determines the quality of our life. everything revolves around who we connect with, and if we don't understand relationships, other than what we saw in the house that we grew up in, we're going to get into a pickle and absolutely imperative that schools introduce relationship absolutely imperative that schools education'elationship absolutely imperative that schools education atationship absolutely imperative that schools education atati highp and sex education at a high standard school. standard in school. it's probably , i would say, one of probably, i would say, one of the important subjects that the most important subjects that kids be learning. kids can be learning. >> what do you make >> okay, izzy, what do you make of that? because sure as a of that? because i'm sure as a parent you're very alarmed that most learning about most children are learning about sex relationships the internet. >> so , i mean, i think that is >> so, i mean, i think that is a deeper issue altogether about where children are going to learn about their education. but i think schools taking that on board is an absolute no, it's such a broad subject. and the issue that i have is what exactly are you going to be teaching children when it comes

to sex education? is it biology or is it relationship which is very different from families to families, different cultures, different beliefs? it's wrong that there is a one size fits all, that every single relationship that you're going to be teaching children will fit into a child's background and child's beliefs . it's not child's beliefs. it's not a school's place to intervene and to interfere. you can open up the subject with parents and say, you know, could you have this conversation with a parent? you can even direct parents of how to have that conversation, but to claim that schools should be enforcing their views onto other people's children and onto families, creating actual information. >> it's not views sex education. and you say, i appreciate you say it should be left to parents, but can you tell me how many sex hormones a woman has? how many sex hormones a man has? when we produce testosterone? when we produce testosterone? when a man produces testosterone, my guess no testosterone, my guess is no biology . biology. >> yeah, and it's biology that's

got nothing to do with relationships. what you have to do relationships. do with relationships. >> generally we sex >> because generally we have sex with people. that is a with other people. so that is a relationship. it's imperative relationship. so it's imperative because we are just mating to you. >> you're conflating two different things together. you're that by teaching you're claiming that by teaching children about hormones is the same teaching children about same as teaching children about what relationships they should be what type of sex be having and what type of sex they should having. they should be having. >> that's completely two >> and that's completely two different what different things sex, not what type but just to have an type of sex, but just to have an understanding of sex rather than go internet on go to the internet on pornography, already know there's an epidemic. there's currently an epidemic. there's currently epidemic of there's currently an epidemic of erectile so many of erectile dysfunction. so many of my clients are 18 year old boys that are not able to perform physically as a result of going to the internet to get their interest in sex. it's not the teaching these children. >> there's too much that you're conflating with it. you're on about the biology behind what's going on, and then you're saying about, well, 18 year old boys. that's a conversation that children need to be having

within their family home. why are children having sex? why do you think everybody can go to their parents? >> but i tell you now, most children do not want to go to their parents to talk about their parents to talk about their side. >> i never said that. i never said that this was was an easy issue. to be able to go to your parents to speak about. i said, have the conversations with parents and educate the parents of how to have this conversation. >> do not parent and maybe you're a lovely parent that your kids can go to, but i think it's let me ladies, let me let me jump let me ladies, let me let me jump in. >> izzy. what i mean, what would your answer be then to a solution or to a to a problem where, a child cannot go to their parents because their parents wouldn't necessarily approve of the relationship for whatever reason, wouldn't approve of them having sex. perhaps. what is then that child meant to do ? meant to do? >> so i would say that what should be tackled is the idea of

sexual relationship . it's not sexual relationship. it's not a case that a child should be able to go to a parent and just have any conversation about sex, and parents should be welcoming. the beliefs behind sex is very important . so beliefs behind sex is very important. so a child that is going to a parent saying that they're having sexual relationships, that goes deeper than just, you know, talking about, you know, a penis and everything else. it goes into, why are you having sex? what are your views behind having safe sex from a lot of people should be within marriage. so why are you condoning or basically it is. it's corrupting children to thinking that having sex in a certain type of way is okay, and the school's going to tell children off who are 14, having sex. no they're not. they're going to simply even, you know, say that it's okay. it's not okay for children to be sexually active at those ages. where does where do you draw the line? you know, she's got a very tainted

view of, of the sex that, you know, it's open. it's lovely . know, it's open. it's lovely. no, it's not open and lovely sex. you know, there's a lot behind sex. and that should be discussed with parents of how they would like to have that conversation with their child. >> is he. we are running out of time. so, emiliano, i want to give you the last word. >> thank you. i don't think i've got a tainted view because i think sex is lovely. the reason that we're all here, sitting here today is sex. and it shouldn't be stigmatised. it shouldn't be stigmatised. it should that we can should be something that we can talk openly. a talk about openly. it's a beautiful thing two people beautiful thing that two people who love should be able who are in love should be able to the reason to do together. and the reason we educate children on we need to educate children on that they are that is because they are extremely promiscuous. they're confused about a confused about consent as a result of what getting result of what they're getting onune result of what they're getting online none online on the internet that none of trust. i know of us should trust. i know myself, poorly. i go to myself, i'm poorly. i go to google and then in a pickle. google and then i'm in a pickle. so we all know that the internet is not a healthy place to get our information. imperative our information. it's imperative that sex that education introduced sex and into school. and relationships into school. it's tainted view think it's not a tainted view to think that is lovely thing. that sex is a lovely thing. that's the problem. exactly. there. the problem that there. that's the problem that

people tainted people think that it's tainted to a beautiful to think of sex as a beautiful thing. that's the problem that we society. we have in society. >> all right. emiliano, izzy, thank both very much indeed. thank you both very much indeed. appreciate your thoughts. if you've that, then you've got a view on that, then we love to hear you . we would love to hear from you. and should schools be getting more should be more involved? should it be purely to parents to give purely down to parents to give their my concern with that their view? my concern with that would be, you know, does a child want to follow the parents beliefs , you know, and children beliefs, you know, and children sex education was always brought about. it was brought about to try to , reduce the number of try to, reduce the number of teenage pregnancies. yeah i mean, that's what it was there for. so people knew what, because, i mean, it's not that long ago within within, my grandparents lifetime that people didn't were getting married and didn't about married and didn't know about sex or didn't know why they were getting pregnant or to get getting pregnant or how to get pregnant anything else. pregnant or anything else. >> let us know what you >> well, let us know what you think. gbnews.com/your say now. >> earlier we ran a story on homelessness which mentioned one of the manchester mayoral candidates. so just to give you a full picture , this is exactly

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>> let's have a look at the papers this morning with former special adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley. former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire . good adviser scarlett mccgwire. good morning to you both. we're just going to have a quick. we're splitting things up a little

bit. charlie, can we bit. so charlie, just can we have a quick look at the guardian and hate crime reports? most of which the police most of which says, the police are not authentic. >> yes. so this is on the back of the scottish parliament passing a new legislation, crime and public order bill, which was supposedly to protect things like hate crime against minority groups, but particularly , groups, but particularly, following sort of the transgender and lgbt communities. but on the back of that, out of the thousands of complaints that have been made to the police , only 3.8% are to the police, only 3.8% are actually legitimate. so it has opened again, a whole other can of worms as to whether this new act passed in the scottish parliament is fit for purpose, whether the police are actually now being pulled from pillar to post, looking at things that they shouldn't so, scarlet. they shouldn't be, so, scarlet. >> yeah . i mean, what is obvious >> yeah. i mean, what is obvious is, is there is such a campaign against this bill that that i mean, so jk rowling sort of,

tweeted a really horrible , tweeted a really horrible, horrible, tweet about trans people naming them and sort of trying to name and shame , which trying to name and shame, which they said wasn't a hate crime. and so you just think, well, there isn't, but i mean, i mean, basically , ellie, this is this basically, ellie, this is this bill has been completely messed up and it has not gone through with the consensus of the scottish people or the police. and you just can't you just can't do that unenforceable. well it is unenforceable. >> it's unenforceable. and also the police aren't actually able to police it. no, i mean, i think that's something like they've had a 45 minute online assessment centre sort of thing in order to give them the means to police it. and there's not enough police officers then there aren't. >> and, you know, trying to please twitter or investigate crimes that people might have or alleged crimes or complaints on on the interweb is, is very different to going to catch the actual criminals that are doing

the shoplifting, that are doing the shoplifting, that are doing the burglary. they're actually really people on really important to people on the scotland. the streets of scotland. >> maybe we could just >> yeah, maybe we could all just be a bit nicer to each be a little bit nicer to each other less hate other then there'd be less hate to investigate. >> that is that is >> yes, i think that is that is the answer is kindness. i think we need a lot more of it, particularly on twitter. >> yes, yes i agree, >> yes, yes, yes i agree, charlie scarlet, we are going to take a short break. we're going to be back with more in just a moment. but first, here's your weather with alex. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. some damp, drizzly weather across southern parts today, but elsewhere it's looking largely dry and pretty warm. like i said though , across southern parts though, across southern parts here there will be outbreaks of drizzly rain going to be quite grey and bit dank here. further north though, lots of fine weather to be had, especially across parts of scotland ,

across parts of scotland, northern england, a decent amount sunshine and with the amount of sunshine and with the sunshine is also going to sunshine it is also going to feel pretty warm. temperatures are likely to be higher than they have been recently. could see around or see highs of around 20 or 21 celsius, which make it the celsius, which would make it the warmest of the year so far. warmest day of the year so far. later on, as we go through the end of the day and overnight, we are going see wet are going to see some wet weather spilling its way across parts northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts north wales, northern parts of north wales, northern england to england and across scotland. to some this weather some of this wet weather could be though in the be pretty heavy, though in the south likely to stay south it is likely to stay mostly dry, albeit pretty cloudy because of cloud . because of the cloud. temperatures won't drop much, so it going to be a mild start it is going to be a mild start to the day tomorrow. most places starting figures as we starting in double figures as we go through friday itself then, and a bit of a north south split across northern parts. there will outbreaks of will be further outbreaks of rain. them could be rain. some of them could be quite persistent, a bit at quite persistent, a bit heavy at times, particularly across western parts of scotland, perhaps england perhaps north northwest england as further south, though as well. further south, though largely some largely dry and bright, some decent sunshine . and with that, decent sunshine. and with that, whilst temperatures might not be quite whilst temperatures might not be quhe as whilst temperatures might not be quite as today, it is

quite as high as today, it is still going to be warm getting into high teens, a similar into the high teens, a similar picture for many of us on saturday. see you again soon. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> all right. still going through the papers this morning with charlie and scarlett. what? are we going to have a look at? >> rishi sunak shoes, please? oh, no. >> we're going. jan leeming. >> we're going. jan leeming. >> oh, jan leeming. sorry. save the shoes. >> save the shoes jan leeming, jan leeming. >> so jan leeming says that because she's got what is called received pronunciation, because she talks properly, that she's not getting work and i just think complete and utter think this is complete and utter rubbish. one of the rubbish. i mean, one of the reasons she's getting work reasons she's not getting work is is an older is because she is an older woman. i say this, i have a one

woman. i say this, i have a one woman campaign about old women on television and i think there should be more of us, but she's 82, but actually, actually the real reason is, is her voice isn't friendly. why would you hire do voiceovers ? it's hire her to do voiceovers? it's not friendly voice. mean, not a friendly voice. i mean, that's know . you that's what you know. you wouldn't have her doing ads or telling stories or anything. and i just think it's a way of her sort of. it's a way of her complaining. i mean, it's sort of like humblebragging, isn't it? i get any work because it? i don't get any work because ispeak it? i don't get any work because i speak properly. yeah right. >> was listening to a >> then i was listening to a podcast yesterday somebody >> then i was listening to a po lse;t yesterday somebody >> then i was listening to a po lse was sterday somebody >> then i was listening to a po lse was saying somebody >> then i was listening to a po lse was saying they somebody >> then i was listening to a po lse was saying they don't)ody >> then i was listening to a po lse was saying they don't get at lse was saying they don't get into they've at lse was saying they don't get intoa they've at lse was saying they don't get intoa working they've at lse was saying they don't get intoa working class they've at lse was saying they don't get intoa working class accentiey've at lse was saying they don't get intoa working class accent .y've got a working class accent. well, what you'd hear more often. on well, what you'd hear more often. oh yeah. >> much more often. and i mean, frankly, if you've, if, if you've got a devon or cornwall accent, i mean, you just sound like a yokel. it's really, really difficult to sort of sound has done all right. pum's. yeah. she sound yeah. she doesn't sound intellectual , does mean, intellectual, does she? i mean, that's the point about palmera's. >> oh, poor pam love pam ayres,

no. well, look , i see the point no. well, look, i see the point she's making, but as you say, i get your point. she's not. she's. i mean, traditional newsreader voice from the 80s. yeah, well, i mean, which isn't which isn't friendly . which isn't friendly. >> which isn't. she stopped being a newsreader before charlie was born. yeah, right. i mean, you know , she's. mean, you know, she's. >> i mean, i wouldn't give voiceover work to moira stuart , voiceover work to moira stuart, do you know what i mean? and she's a legend in her own lifetime. but you know, again, she's not got a warm. yeah, delivery. but that's just the style it was at the time. >> yeah. it's over time >> yeah. it's changed over time hasn't it. >> yeah. things have changed. thank otherwise i'd thank heavens. otherwise i'd never nowhere. never have gotten nowhere. >> never had any >> well, i've never had any problems the. problems with the. >> you are quite posh. >> you are quite posh. >> yeah, well, i've faux posh. >> yeah, well, i've faux posh. >> do you think it helps that you're very funny? >> that's kind. >> well, that's very kind. that's very, very warm. >> funny. >> well, funny. >> well, funny. >> the thing about >> yes. your. the thing about you, charlie, is you're warm. >> thank thank you. were >> thank you, thank you. were you this shouting of you expecting this shouting of try. don't stop. don't stop there. he's turned up . it's

there. he's not turned up. it's there. he's not turned up. it's the northerner. >> talk about teabags, >> i want to talk about teabags, please. of the star . please. of the daily star. >> oh yes. >> oh yes. >> like a cup of tea. >> like a cup of tea. >> this is a revelation to >> well, this is a revelation to me because i do drink tea, but 1 in 7 people, apparently, use the same teabags throughout the day. there are 1 in 7 brits out there, and maybe it's these , there, and maybe it's these, women sat round that table. i mean, look at the colours of those teas. some are stronger than others, but 1 in 7 apparently use a teabag in the morning for their morning brew. they'll then hang it up somewhere or put it to the side on the draining board. but we'll hangit on the draining board. but we'll hang it on. the washing line is on the front page of the star to reuse throughout the reuse that teabag throughout the day, this a couple of day, i find this a couple of bags, couple of cups of bags, a couple of cups out of it. well, find this it. well, i find this extraordinary because would extraordinary because i would just tea bag per per just use one tea bag per per brew, i think. >> well, that's the right way. >> well, that's the right way. >> i that's the right way >> i think that's the right way to do it because, you know, it'll affects the taste

surely. >> quite right. >> quite right. >> what good is dried >> yeah. what good is a dried out bag that's out old tea bag that's been hanging the washing hanging up on the washing line for, my mother, who for, you know, so my mother, who is not poor, is incredibly frugal, not poor, but really would you would do that. >> e- e would she would have >> she she would she would have her bag in morning and her tea bag in the morning and it until the evening it would last until the evening when throw out. when she would throw it out. >> don't, if you >> well, if you don't, if you don't strong tea. yeah fair don't like strong tea. yeah fair enough. knew who used enough. i knew someone who used to in freezer to put them in the freezer and then them eyes. oh, then put them on her eyes. oh, oh, granny does that oh, my granny does that sometimes. good your sometimes. yeah. good for your eyes. sometimes. yeah. good for your eerery for your eyes. >> very good for your eyes. >> very good for your eyes. >> yeah. the bags. get rid of the bags. >> that's all right. use it as a different use. that's fine. oh, yeah, quite nice. but yeah, that's quite nice. but i think reusing it is not so that if got lots of people do, if you've got lots of people do, if you've got lots of people do, if you've got lots of people do, if you go to a cafe, you always get your teapot always get your teapot and you always get your teapot and you always get of water so you can get a pot of water so you can top more out of top it up and get more out of the bag, don't you? top it up and get more out of the but, don't you? top it up and get more out of the but that's: you? top it up and get more out of the but that's whilst it's still >> but that's whilst it's still sort brewing the in the sort of brewing in the in the pot. not been taken out pot. it's not been taken out hung to and then and hung out to dry. and then and then, know, a then, you know, given a new lease of life at the next, the next service. >> i mean, wouldn't be sold >> i mean, it wouldn't be sold on if gram people do >> look, if one gram people do it, obviously works it's

it, it obviously works and it's not like i mean, i always thought my mother just crazy. >> e’- e�*n e! acostof >> well, we are in a cost of living crisis. >> no. well, that's. >> no. well, that's. >> tea bags are very expensive. >> tea bags are very expensive. >> well, yeah. and that's also >> tea bags are very expensive. >> wthe yeah. and that's also >> tea bags are very expensive. >> wthe article. nd that's also >> tea bags are very expensive. >> wthe article. there it's also >> tea bags are very expensive. >> wthe article. there is. also what the article. there is a serious side to this star because doing because it says doing cost of living people because it says doing cost of livi|reusing people because it says doing cost of livi|reusing their people because it says doing cost of livi|reusing their tea people because it says doing cost of livi|reusing their tea bags)ple are reusing their tea bags but they're doing home they're also doing their home trims, own hair trims, cutting their own hair and swiping, you and people use swiping, you know, ketchup and know, sachets of ketchup and mustard because mustard and condiments because they, to they, they don't want to buy them those, those things the supermarket. >> right. you two, a >> right. you two, it's been a joy >> right. you two, it's been a joy and a pleasure. thank you very much indeed. got very much indeed. we've got to leave because we're leave it there because we're going to talk the shadow going to talk to the shadow secretary state for secretary of state for transport, who transport, louise haigh, who joins to see transport, louise haigh, who join�*this to see transport, louise haigh, who join�*this morning, to see transport, louise haigh, who join�*this morning, can to see transport, louise haigh, who join�*this morning, can we to see transport, louise haigh, who join�*this morning, can we talk,ee you this morning, can we talk, please, about the problems within the nhs? we've been covering it a lot this morning, 50% of people working within the nhs, we're told, have been looking actively looking for jobs outside of the health service . yes, it's very service. yes, it's very concerning. what would a labour government do to stop that ? government do to stop that? >> well, that's absolutely right . and the recruitment and retention crisis has been severe

for a long time now in the nhs, thanks to 14 years of underinvestment and mismanagement and chaos. my colleague, the shadow health secretary, wes streeting, has set out plans to bring down those waiting lists in order to reduce pressure . on on, on reduce pressure. on on, on staff, because that's one of the major things that we hear. yes there's been disputes around pay, there's been disputes around pay, but actually the pressure that on overworked nhs that is on overworked nhs staff and staff is really and social care staff is really significant. so bringing down those to reduce significant. so bringing down thorpressure to reduce significant. so bringing down thorpressure we to reduce significant. so bringing down thorpressure we hope reduce significant. so bringing down thorpressure we hope would the pressure we hope would address that retention crisis and people in and encourage people to stay in the nhs . but no doubt the nhs. but there's no doubt that of the workforce that too many of the workforce have been have been overlooked, overworked and under—supported for too long. i wanted to ask you about a story that's not going anywhere. >> i'm afraid , as angela rayner >> i'm afraid, as angela rayner and questions about her taxes and questions about her taxes and whether she paid the right taxes, those sorts of questions.

jill mortimer, a tory mp, has criticised her, calling her an aggressive twister of truths and aggressive twister of truths and a hypocrite. the fourth aggressive twister of truths and a hijp ite. the fourth aggressive twister of truths and a hijp that the fourth aggressive twister of truths and a hijp that angela |e fourth aggressive twister of truths and a hijp that angela rayner�*n aggressive twister of truths and a hijp that angela rayner has tory mp that angela rayner has demanded tax details demanded to see the tax details of, says she has refused to of, and says she has refused to pubush of, and says she has refused to publish her own. do you think that angela rayner is hiding her own secrets with this? and should she be made to publish her own tax returns ? her own tax returns? >> well, nobody's asking, as far as i'm aware, for angela rayner's publisher tax return, but she has been asked to pubush but she has been asked to publish private personal publish very private personal tax reveal tax advice that would reveal a number of personal details about her children and her family's situation. she's been very clear that she will cooperate fully with hmrc if they make any requests or investigate the issue, but i as far as i'm aware, they haven't. so far she has received this personal advice and is clear that no tax is owed. and you know, the issue is owed. and you know, the issue is being perpetuated because the various tory mps are perpetuating the issue. but she has answered these questions in detail, and i'm fully confident that she's given the answers in full. >> i mean, presumably she'd bits

about her children could be redacted, you would imagine. anyway, look , i don't to anyway, look, i don't want to unger anyway, look, i don't want to linger on because you are linger on that because you are at a bus depot, by the look of it. and we are addressing the bus issue. we've been talking about this today. i mean, there is a huge bus crisis actually, across the uk , with lots of across the uk, with lots of people just can't get the service isn't there for them anymore . anymore. >> that's absolutely right. and since 2010, we've lost 5000 bus routes across england outside london. and a big part of the reason for that is because we have, quite frankly, an insane system in country . we're system in this country. we're the only in the the only country in the developed that allows developed world that allows private bus operators to pick and routes they and choose whatever routes they want, taxpayer is left want, and the taxpayer is left to subsidise the rest that communities depend upon. in london for the last 40 years, they've had control over their bus network and the mayor of london is able to set which routes and services he wants to be run, and private operators then bid in to run them. greater

manchester has just moved to that system, and we think that every area of england should have those same powers and be able back control as able to take back control as well, so that we can set set the routes, fares and services that we need and we can build public transport networks that really work for everyone. the current system is incredibly inefficient and think and wasteful, and we think actually be actually these reforms will be better value the taxpayer better value for the taxpayer and increase the number and will increase the number of routes across

morning to you. it's 9:00 on thursday, the 11th of april. today is there a cabinet revolt on the cards? rishi sunak faces a backlash from his government after threatening to leave the european court of human rights over the rwanda policy. >> the tory party at large has hardly ever looked so divided. and now rishi sunak might be

facing within his own facing splits within his own inner circle. find out more with me very soon. >> government figures show sickness benefits across britain rose in every constituency last year , with tory heartlands year, with tory heartlands seeing some of the biggest increases . increases. >> the prime minister admits that stubbornly high nhs waiting list one of the biggest failures in office, as a study reveals nearly half of workers are looking at job adverts outside of the health service. us president joe biden urges iran against launching a missile strike on israel, as he vows ironclad support for netanyahu , ironclad support for netanyahu, and the dorsey days are over. bridget jones's fans are up in arms, apparently, as colin firth is reportedly set to miss out on the fourth instalment of the film . film. >> it's a bit damp and drizzly across southern parts today, but warm and much drier and brighter further north. i'll have more in the full forecast coming up. >> morning to you. i'm stephen

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so anyway, more of that. hopefully the months come so anyway, more of that. hopeflofy the months come so anyway, more of that. hopeflof the the months come so anyway, more of that. hopeflof the election,hs come so anyway, more of that. hopeflof the election, morecome so anyway, more of that. hopeflof the election, more .)me ahead of the election, more. right. shall we look at the menus morning. let's. menus this morning. let's. >> let's go our >> yes, let's go to our top story. >> and sunak will face or >> and rishi sunak will face or could face a cabinet revolt if he decides to leave the european court of human rights. >> well, at least 12 cabinet members oppose leaving, members are to oppose leaving, including jeremy hunt, james cleverly alex chalk. cleverly and alex chalk. >> well, it all comes amid calls from tory mps to quit the echr. well, it's been going on for a while, but particularly this week following that new ruling that governments have a duty to protect people from climate change. >> well, we're now joined by our political correspondent olivia utley, who joins us live now from westminster. good to see you this morning, olivia. and do you this morning, olivia. and do you really think a cabinet revolt be on the cards here? >> well, there are quite a lot of ifs in this story. rishi sunak hasn't actually yet said that it will be conservative policy at the next election to leave echr but it sounds leave the echr but it sounds like something he is contemplating . if he does go

contemplating. if he does go down that route, then he will expect a big revolt from the cabinet. it's thought that by about 2 to 1, cabinet ministers support short staying in the echr, including some very senior cabinet ministers like james cleverly and david cameron. that said , there are plenty of said, there are plenty of backbench mps and a handful of cabinet ministers who would like to see britain leave the echr. and as for conservative voters, well, they're split 5050. so you could look on the optimistic side for rishi sunak and say either way, he will have friends , he'll have supporters, or you could say that this is a bit of a headache for him. whichever route he chooses take, he route he chooses to take, he will see splits within his party, both within the parliamentary party and in the country at large. >> and also on top of all of this, we've just heard , haven't this, we've just heard, haven't we, from boris johnson, who i'd be interested to know whether he's trying to rally the troops or not on behalf of the

government . government. >> well, it was a very robust bons >> well, it was a very robust boris johnson esque interview that he did earlier in canada at a free trade conference, and he spoke about the benefits of brexit. people are often asked . brexit. people are often asked. brexit. people are often asked. brexit supporters are often asked, well, what can you point to? what are the benefits? well, this is what boris johnson had to say . to say. >> brexit is the benefit of brexit and the vaccine roll out the fastest in in, in in europe by miles and aukus and an independent policy on ukraine and our ability to do i differently and new rules on just a huge range of things. >> don't believe the negativity folks. >> it's not negative . no, not at >> it's not negative. no, not at all. no. >> you're you're you're great. >> you're you're you're great. >> don't believe the negativity. folks are very john esque end to that defence. that robust defence of brexit there. what will the public make of this? will it be seen as a sign that bons will it be seen as a sign that boris johnson could be willing

to campaign properly for rishi sunak at the next election, to show his full support for the current prime minister? if that's the case? well, that could potentially win back the conservatives some support or . conservatives some support or. is it boris johnson? free wheeling, potentially looking at a possibility of coming back after the next election in a front line capacity in the event of a concern of defeat? boris johnson also talked also gave a pretty to donald pretty stark warning to donald trump, suggesting that america could the verge handing could be on the verge of handing putin victory if they don't hand over some more to money ukraine. now that has been seen by many as boris johnson playing the sort of elder statesman which could be seen as a thorn in rishi sunak side. but let's have a what he had to say. a listen to what he had to say. >> do you want to make america great don't great again? then you don't begin a new republican presidency, well presidency, which may well happen. you don't begin that by conceding victory to vladimir

putin and letting the ukrainians lose . and it would be a it would lose. and it would be a it would be a disaster. it would be a disaster for the west, and it would be a disaster for america . would be a disaster for america. >> well, there are people who say that boris. >> well, there are people who say that boris . johnson and say that boris. johnson and donald trump have a lot in common. but as you can see from that on foreign policy, they are very much divided. and that reflects a wider divide between britain's policy ukraine and britain's policy on ukraine and the a republican the policy of a republican government. government government. if that government comes pass, that will be comes to pass, that will be a really interesting development to watch over the next few months before our two elections. >> okay, olivia , for now, thanks >> okay, olivia, for now, thanks very much indeed. >> now, an exclusive gb news investigation has found that the home office is unable to confirm how many convicted foreign nationals were issued a deportation order in 2023. >> yeah, responding to a freedom of information request submitted

by gb news, the home office said it was unable to confirm figures because of a disruption to data systems. >> well, we're now joined by our investigations reporter charlie peters. morning to you, charlie. what have you found out? >> they just don't know. and it's been a bit of a back and forth with the home office this week. they're able to tell us how foreign national how many foreign national offenders they've deported over the few years. but they the last few years. but they can't many are waiting can't say how many are waiting and deportation. they and awaiting deportation. they say that they've removed 17,700 foreign national offenders since january 2019. but when you ask them for the latest data on those who've been issued an order that's only available up to september 2022, that was confirmed last month by the uk's countering illegal migration minister michael tomlinson, in a written question in parliament. so ask where's the so we went to ask where's the latest and they said that latest data? and they said that it would cost too much to acquire that information from

their systems, the information systems they have at the home office, as a £600 limit on foi. so if it's going to cost more than that in a 24 hour period, they just say no. now after that foi back, we went to ask foi came back, we went to ask them, we have story them, okay, we have a story here. is there that you them, okay, we have a story here. kindere that you them, okay, we have a story here. kind of that you them, okay, we have a story here. kind of bypass that you them, okay, we have a story here. kind of bypass thist you could kind of bypass this concern give latest concern and give us the latest information? they just information? and they just couldn't do it. they wouldn't cough figures. now cough up those figures. now analysts to say analysts i've spoken to say this points wider in the points to a wider crisis in the home where they're on points to a wider crisis in the honof where they're on points to a wider crisis in the honof the where they're on points to a wider crisis in the honof the whe and1ey're on points to a wider crisis in the honof the whe and the �*e on points to a wider crisis in the honof the wheand the data on top of the detail and the data as to illegal as it relates to illegal migration. this is pretty crucial, as political analysts will time, when will say at the time, when migration leading migration is such a leading issue the . national debates, issue in the. national debates, with net migration reaching record levels last year , the record levels last year, the government, many say, really should have this information to hand. >> well, if you don't know how many people they want to deport, then how do they go about getting and deporting them getting them and deporting them and a situation and it's a it's a situation that's in crisis. that's already in crisis. >> know that the estate >> we do know that the estate for deportation has been dwindled in recent years. some 2000 spaces available for that. and if you've deported 17,700 in

the last five years, that points to kind of a surplus of space to a kind of a surplus of space that's really lacking. and they need to remove need that capacity to remove them. in a report last by them. in a report last year by them. in a report last year by the inspector of the the chief inspector of the borders, we did hear from a staff member in that space saying the foreign national saying that the foreign national offender the offender returns command the team that deals with getting rid of foreign criminals. they said that there was no single version of the truth on figures , which of the truth on figures, which is really concerning statement that we can draw out as it relates to these statistics. and that was said a year ago. that was said over a year ago. in time, we are expecting in that time, we are expecting some improvement. the some improvement. of course, the home office that they don't home office say that they don't recognise claims we're recognise the claims that we're making, but also they're not able recognise and able to recognise the truth and give data and they also give us the data and they also point fact they are, point to the fact that they are, as say, removing so many as they say, removing so many people and they're prioritising tackling violence against women people and they're prioritising tackgirlsyiolence against women people and they're prioritising tackgirls inlence against women people and they're prioritising tackgirls in their against women people and they're prioritising tackgirls in their current women and girls in their current deportation okay, deportation strategy. okay, charlie peters, thank you very much indeed. >> david newby has been in touch on and is the home on this and says is the home office computer of fujitsu . office computer of fujitsu. >> it's very concerning though, isn't , just about the

isn't it, just about the handung isn't it, just about the handling of data, the storage of data . well it's not good enough data. well it's not good enough is it? >> there somewhere, right. coming up at half nine as always is it's britain's newsroom and andrew pierce is here. good morning. morning, morning and more. right. thanks more. yes. all right. thanks how are you. >> em- e yeah. very well. >> all right. yeah. very well. >> all right. yeah. very well. >> are you going be >> what are you going to be chomping today? chomping down on today? >> rishi's out campaigning >> well, rishi's out campaigning today elections and >> well, rishi's out campaigning todaywe'll elections and >> well, rishi's out campaigning todaywe'll be elections and >> well, rishi's out campaigning todaywe'll be talking|s and >> well, rishi's out campaigning todaywe'll be talking aboutd >> well, rishi's out campaigning todaywe'll be talking about the boris we'll be talking about the broadside from boris broadside from ottawa from boris johnson very johnson i believe was very robust terrific. robust though. it was terrific. but loved about the but i loved his line about the party winston churchill party of winston churchill banning cigars, because of course, rishi's got this idea of banning anybody who's now 15 from ever being able to legally buy cigarettes. idea . which buy cigarettes. an idea. which sounds, on paper great, but most tory mps i speak to say , what tory mps i speak to say, what the hell? we've got more important things to do. why are we banning anything? we're also talking been talking about story. you've been talking about story. you've been talking echr, the rift talking about the echr, the rift in but i think in the cabinet. but i think that's going i actually that's going to i think actually

the in my view. verdict the barmy in my view. verdict from echr climate change from the echr on climate change in switzerland will strengthen the if does try and the pm's hand if he does try and take on the echr, because i haven't found a tory mp who thinks it was a good thing to do. >> but it's one of those things though on paper it sort of looks all right. and you just think for, for most of up and down for, for most of us up and down the you go, well, the country, you go, well, climate yeah. you know, the country, you go, well, clwe've yeah. you know, the country, you go, well, clwe've agreed yeah. you know, the country, you go, well, clwe've agreed these you know, the country, you go, well, clwe've agreed these targets, )w, if we've agreed these targets, we them. it's when we should meet them. it's when you into what it you drill down into what it actually means. >> yeah. i mean, >> yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, what are they going to do next? this of human this the european court of human rights we've got to spend this the european court of human rightzon we've got to spend this the european court of human rightzon defence got to spend this the european court of human rightzon defence spending.nd more on defence spending. i mean, where they go with mean, where do they go with this? completely this? if they completely overreach themselves? quite encouraged that the only judge that reluctance that expressed some reluctance about british about all this was the british one. so there is some. but but of it goes and of course it goes through and there's appeal. i'm no of there's no appeal. i'm no fan of this court. fan at all. this court. i'm no fan at all. and for simpletons. oh and scrabble for simpletons. oh changing scrabble, we reveal all the details. we've got a formal scrabble world champion coming on to say, don't change what's good. what do they say? if it ain't don't fix it. yeah, ain't broke, don't fix it. yeah, exactly. that's interesting. is

>> oh, that's interesting. is it? what words you can use it? about what words you can use then and apparently then all that and apparently more people are now more and more people are now looking because and of looking up words because and of course google and course they're using google and all that sort of thing. >> it's trying to scrabble to >> so it's trying to scrabble to reflect the modern world. and we're also talking about which prime minister had an affair when was in downing when he was in downing street. oh, yes , i read fascinating oh, yes, i read fascinating story. >> that was a good read. >> that was a good read. >> yeah, i was, and i've read so many this prime many biographies of this prime minister. name minister. we'll keep the name for little later. them for a little later. none of them mentioned it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> interesting. >> yeah. >> interinteresting. really >> very interesting. really can keep things hidden. exactly keep some things hidden. exactly yeah. not many things. no. >> fortunately yeah. >> not many. fortunately yeah. you secrets in you don't want secrets in downing you don't want secrets in donou'll find more from >> you'll find out more from 930. thanks, andrew. pierce. yes. >> certainly will. right. let's tell you about the biggest prize of the year. ten. well, so far at least make it even bigger. >> who knows, to keep getting bigger? >> oh, yes, £10,000 cash, luxury travel items and a £10,000 2025 all inclusive greek cruise. >> do you want the chance to win it?

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good luck. >> yes, good luck indeed. now do stay with us because bridget jones is back next year, but without one crucial character. it's got lots up in arms now. the knickers i think are still there in the knickers are still here, but a love interest isn't, so we'll tell you more about that in a moment.

welcome back to breakfast. now. renee zellweger and hugh grant are to return in a new bridget jones film called mad about the boy. >> e- e— e but no. mr darcy. colin >> yes, but no. mr darcy. colin firth won't be returning to reprise his iconic role. >> well , let's speak now to >> well, let's speak now to entertainment reporter juditha d'silva. really good to see you this morning. judyta. what do you make of this then? bridget jones but without mr darcy, will it be the same , it won't be the it be the same, it won't be the same, but it's kind of fits in

with the narrative because helen fielding, it's based on the book that she wrote with the same name in 2013, and she's also penned the screenplay. we don't know exactly how loyal the film is going to be to the narrative of the book, but with helen fielding behind it, we know she's steering the ship in the direction she wants bridget jones in, because you'll jones to go in, because you'll remember always talked remember that she always talked about quote unquote, smug marrieds, had no marrieds, and she had no shortage disdain for them shortage of disdain for them when single. and helen when she was single. and helen fielding said she didn't want bridget to become one of those people. that's why the people. that's why she wrote the character of darcy out. but character of mr darcy out. but in replacement , character of mr darcy out. but in replacement, you character of mr darcy out. but in replacement , you then see in replacement, you then see a new potential love dynamic. we won't spoil it, but daniel cleaver back and hugh grant cleaver is back and hugh grant is back to play him, and we're seeing the introduction of chiwetel ejiofor and leo woodall. so we don't know exactly their characters, but we know that the new potential romantic options for bridget. >> oh, it never ends for bridget jones says she's got an insatiable appetite, all i insatiable appetite, is all i can judyta can say. judyta >> indeed she does. but then it's great to see that we're

going to be seeing bridget in her in her 50s, and it's going towards the conversation that's happening in entertainment in general , where you need to be general, where you need to be comfortable with knowing that women's sexuality is depicted across spectrum. across the spectrum. it's not just love and romance. it's not just love and romance. it's not just reserved for the young. you get to see bridget, a very relatable character, go through the of romance and the vicissitudes of romance and love and an ever evolving life and the new elements that are introduced into her story. and that's people love the that's why people love the character much. she speaks character so much. she speaks the what women at the reality of what women at different stages in their lives go with life, family , go through with life, family, romance, and more and all three bridget jones films so far have been box office smashes, haven't they? >> do you think that we can expect the same from this fourth film, or do you think there's also been criticism , hasn't also been criticism, hasn't there, about bridget jones being out of touch about her being overweight , for example? and overweight, for example? and she's only stone, something she's only nine stone, something that her diary. that she writes in her diary. and, know, she says she and, you know, she says she doesn't very but she doesn't earn very much, but she owns all by herself in owns a flat all by herself in zone one in borough in

zone one in borough market in london. i mean, it has been criticised being really criticised for being really quite touch . quite out of touch. >> it is because, yes, it's >> it's it is because, yes, it's coming. >> it's it is because, yes, it's conthat's thing that a lot >> that's the thing that a lot of franchises that bringing of franchises that are bringing in branches of the in new, new branches of the story to this time, you're deaung story to this time, you're dealing with a very cynical audience. it's the social media generation. they're very nitpicky about the smallest details, what they're going to be leaning on is the established fan base of this franchise, and people who already have an invested interest and a kind of dearness to their hearts for bridget jones. and that's why it's important to have it's so important to have renee zellweger back the zellweger come back to play the role , but also with when it role, but also with when it comes to the money of it right now in hollywood, when you're doing you're battling the doing the you're battling the streaming people want to streaming game, people want to lean what they is lean into what they know is established and successful . established and successful. they've never breached the mark of £40 million on production budgets, they've raked in budgets, and they've raked in hundreds of millions. this is a valuable commodity for the studio, so they're hoping that they will be able get that they will be able to get that kind of ratio of return on another but then again , another film. but then again, writing for the tone of the

time, now we have to put our trust in helen fielding that when the when she's adapted the screenplay, she will speak to an audience require audience that will require certain believe. the certain things to believe. the narrative is credible. so let's give her a chance. no absolutely. >> it'll be successful. it's bound to be a really good to see you.thank bound to be a really good to see you. thank you very much indeed, mate . obe bridget has moved to mate. obe bridget has moved to jeremy hunt's constituency , jeremy hunt's constituency, where she's scrabbling by on a measly £100,000 a year, which is jeremy hunt says is , you know, jeremy hunt says is, you know, just very, very, very good enough. >> is that. no it's not a good salary. >> i've been buying 100 grand a yeah >> i've been buying 100 grand a year. there you go, i've got to say, mentioning earlier on about at the people's forum, all judhais at the people's forum, all judita is still being held up in our screen. let's let judy to go. she's desperate for a cup of tea, sir, she was asked about the lady in the green jacket in the lady in the green jacket in the audience. oh, yeah? yeah, yeah. the audience. oh, yeah? yeah, yeai. the audience. oh, yeah? yeah, yeai will never forget who you >> i will never forget who you liked because was very cheeky. >> oh. very cheeky. » 0... very >> oh. very cheeky, very saucy. proper . proper northern lass. but yeah. >> anyway, look, he's blushing.

>> anyway, look, he's blushing. >> morris, who's been in >> judith morris, who's been in touch on gbnews.com/your say . touch on gbnews.com/your say. oh, saying i am the lady in the green jacket . she said. and you green jacket. she said. and you were amazing. can't wait for the next one. thanks for being the best channel on tv, i feel like i'm interrupting something between you and judith. >> was lovely. oh, she was >> she was lovely. oh, she was really lovely. and everyone, i think. i think, judith, you were. i first bumped into you because complaining because you're complaining because you're complaining because security that she because of security that she couldn't a and couldn't pop out for a fag. and so she's miffed on that one. >> one. >> i like judith, i like the sound of judith. >> it really lovely >> it was really lovely to meet you. we'll again, i'm you. and we'll meet again, i'm sure. it from us. sure. anyway, that's it from us. we'll again we'll see. we'll meet again tomorrow six. tomorrow from six. >> brighter outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news. weather update brought to you by the met office. some damp, drizzly weather across southern parts today, but elsewhere it's looking largely dry and pretty warm. like i said though, across southern parts

here there will be outbreaks of drizzly rain going to be quite grey and bit dank here. further north though, lots of fine weather to be had, especially across parts of scotland, northern a decent northern england, a decent amount and with the amount of sunshine and with the sunshine. is also going to sunshine. it is also going to feel pretty warm. temperatures are likely to be higher than they been recently. could they have been recently. could see around 20 or 21 see highs of around 20 or 21 celsius, which would make it the warmest of year so far. warmest day of the year so far. later on, as we go through the end day and overnight, we end of the day and overnight, we are going to see wet are going to see some wet weather spilling way across weather spilling its way across parts ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts of northern ireland into parts wales, northern parts of north wales, northern england and across scotland. to some wet weather could some of this wet weather could be pretty heavy, though in the south it is likely to stay mostly , albeit pretty cloudy mostly dry, albeit pretty cloudy because cloud. because of the cloud. temperatures drop much, so temperatures won't drop much, so it going to be a mild start it is going to be a mild start to the day tomorrow. most places starting as we starting in double figures as we go through friday itself then, and a bit a north south split and a bit of a north south split across northern parts, there will be further outbreaks of rain. could be rain. some of them could be quite persistent, a bit heavy at times, particularly across western scotland.

western parts of scotland. perhaps northwest perhaps north northwest england as south, though as well. further south, though largely dry and bright, some decent sunshine. and with that, whilst temperatures might not be quite as high as today, it is still to be warm getting still going to be warm getting into teens. a similar into the high teens. a similar picture many of us picture for many of us on saturday. see again soon. >> that warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> 930 on thursday, the 11th of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turneh >> good morning. thank you for joining so, boris has joining us. so, boris has blasted sunak overnight. boris johnson furious johnson has launched a furious attack minister, attack on the prime minister, calling policies mad calling some of his policies mad and saying that must spend and saying that he must spend more defence. more on defence. >> when i look at some of the things that were, were, were doing now, i think that are

being done in the name of conservatism. i they're conservatism. i think they're absolutely, and absolutely, absolutely nuts. and >> and he's got more problems because rishi sunak is facing revolt from within his own cabinet after threatened to leave the european court of human over his rwanda human rights over his rwanda policy . policy. >> and it time to come clean? >> and is it time to come clean? the health secretary demands to know the fate of 9000 young people treated at gender clinics were they failed by adults in the health service, and the fake stamp scandal, which was broken here on gb news. >> we followed this story throughout and it seems counterfeit stamps leaving people £5 penalties to people paying £5 penalties to try to collect post while try to collect their post while thousands of them are coming from guess where china . from guess where china. >> members of the public are urging royal mail to find and destroy these chinese knockoffs and stop finding innocent people , or they won't be able to trust stamps again.

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