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ho no forgiveness for labour >> and no forgiveness for labour mps over trans madness. >> plus, very confident in andrew. i'm very confident in angela rayner. have 100% confident. >> rayner gets the kiss of death i >> -- >> and when i look at some of the things that were were , were the things that were were, were doing now, i think that are being done in the name of conservatism. i think they're absolutely, absolutely nuts . absolutely, absolutely nuts. >> boris gets stuck into the prime minister also. it's the failure to incentivise people to work that then allows it to become a lifestyle choice paid for by others . for by others. >> that seems to me to be the problem. >> it's being on benefits, a lifestyle choice on my panel. it's gb news star nana akua, founder of global britain, and garland exlade advisor matthew laza and are you ready for the terrifying drug heading to the uk ? the terrifying drug heading to the uk .7 the flesh eating zombie uk.7 the flesh eating zombie apocalypse . uk? the flesh eating zombie apocalypse . get ready britain. apocalypse. get ready britain. here we go.
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billions for foreigners. nothing for brits. next . for brits. next. >> just after 9:00. this is the top story from the gb newsroom. a subpostmistress who was wrongly jailed while she was pregnant has refused to accept the apology of a post office executive who sent an email in 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant . 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant. david 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant . david smith told the brilliant. david smith told the post office inquiry that with hindsight , post office inquiry that with hindsight, he understood the anger and upset, as well as the substantial distress he'd caused. two seema misra and her family saying he was sorry for the way his email had been perceived and portrayed . mrs. perceived and portrayed. mrs. misra was falsely accused of stealing £74,000 and had to give birth. wearing a probation tag, she said i was eight weeks pregnant. they need to apologise to my youngest son. it was
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terrible. between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 subpostmasters were prosecuted due to flawed honzon were prosecuted due to flawed horizon it software in the united states. the former american footballer o.j. united states. the former american footballer oj. simpson has died of cancer at the age of 76, his family said today. he died surrounded by his children and grandchildren. o.j. died surrounded by his children and grandchildren. oj. simpson was acquitted of killing his ex—wife, nicole brown simpson, and her friend ron goldman in 1994 at a trial that gripped america. almost 100 million people tuning in live to see the now famous pursuit of oj. simpson driving his white ford bronco, followed by multiple police cars across l.a. after his record breaking career in the nfl , he became his record breaking career in the nfl, he became an his record breaking career in the nfl , he became an actor his record breaking career in the nfl, he became an actor and had roles in films. but in 2008, he was convicted for his role in a las vegas armed robbery and served almost nine years in prison . here, a moroccan asylum prison. here, a moroccan asylum seeker on trial for the murder of a pensioner in hartlepool has told police he was motivated by
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the conflict in gaza . 45 year the conflict in gaza. 45 year old ahmed ali denies murdering 70 year old terence carney, as well as the attempted murder of his housemate javad nouri last november. he says he carried out the attacks as an act of revenge for israel's killing of children in the palestinian conflict . in the palestinian conflict. he's also accused of assaulting two female police officers who interviewed him after his arrest , the royal mail has said today it's working to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation after an increase in reports of fakes being sold in shops and online, the telegraph reported today. china is flooding britain with counterfeit royal mail stamps, with small retailers buying forgeries online. it's understood that the fakes were causing a rise in complaints when stamps bought from legitimate stores were being deemed fraudulent, resulting in a £5 fine for the user. and as you've been hearing, the former prime minister boris johnson, has attacked rishi sunak's flagship no smoking policy as
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absolutely nuts as he criticised the state of the conservative party while at an event in canada. the prime minister's plan would prevent anyone who's turning 15 year or younger turning 15 this year or younger from ever being able to legally buy tobacco products, boris johnson expressed his frustration at the idea . frustration at the idea. >> some of the things that were, were, were doing now, i think that are being done in the name of conservatism. i think they're absolutely, absolutely nuts. but, know, we're banning but, you know, we're banning cigars and what is i mean, maybe, maybe you all think that's a great idea. i just can't i can't see what what is the point of banning with the, the point of banning with the, the of winston churchill the party of winston churchill wants ban , i mean, donnie, wants to ban, i mean, donnie, donnie, moi and break, as they say in quebec. you know, it's just it's just it's just mad bofis just it's just it's just mad boris johnson well, for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. >> scan that qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news. common alerts .
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news. common alerts. >> if it feels like living in britain is like living in a foreign country, that's because it is you lucky taxpayers are £4.3 billion of the foreign aid budget being spent on refugees and asylum seekers. we are now spending more than 50% of our £9.9 billion bilateral aid budget within the uk. the eu has just passed a pointless new migrant quota deal that will make more people rush to the land of milk, honey and complete gullibility that is great britain . there has been a 239% britain. there has been a 239% increase in homeless refugees since 2021. where are they going 7 since 2021. where are they going ? yes, i imagine quite near the top of your local housing waiting list. we're closing migrant hotels in a bid to save money, but it's costing us more money, but it's costing us more money because they'll all end up in social housing or private accommodation bought by you. the taxpayer. and the national audit office has said that around £1.2 billion is expected to be spent on housing migrants in large sites like raf scampton or
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wethersfield. but back to the foreign aid issue. now international rules allow countries to count first year costs of supporting refugees as overseas development assistance, so that's what we're doing. but because you're all more intelligent than the government gives you credit for, you'll have already noticed that they're fudging the numbers, aren't they? you're still paying the £4.3 billion out of the foreign aid budget, but because these people aren't going to leave britain or get decent job and be able to support themselves for quite some time , themselves for quite some time, if at all, you will probably be paying if at all, you will probably be paying for them forever. and we can't hide that in the foreign aid budget forever, can we? your massive tax bill is coming across the channel every single day . is it too across the channel every single day. is it too much to ask for a british government to put brits first? this is now the worst of both worlds . we're still both worlds. we're still spending billions abroad, like giving somalia £100 million in 2022. we gave £110 million to
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nigeria. we once gave a load of money to a kenyan rainmaker and an ethiopian girl band. we've given the taliban hundreds of millions of pounds. just let me read this sentence to you. a statement from our government following the taliban's capture of kabul in august 2021, increased uk commitments meant afghanistan became the uk's largest bilateral aid programme , largest bilateral aid programme, with spending rising to 286,000,000in 2021 to 22, was supposed to be giving them £151 million this year. after a long day of stoning women to death, having questionable relations with young boys and plotting to kill us all, they retire for the evening to sleep soundly on a bed of british taxpayers cash. but you're paying for them when they come over here as well. but it's about more than the money, isn't it? when you look around, do you feel enriched? i mean, not literally, obviously, because we've already established that billions of pounds money is going to pounds of your money is going to refugees seekers. refugees and asylum seekers. i mean, do
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mean, culturally, societally. do you safe? the british you feel more safe? the british pubuc you feel more safe? the british public are paying every single which way, and they are fudging the numbers to try to mask the true cost of this. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i'm very gratefully joined by the wonderful nana akua. i've also got the founder of global britain, aman bhogal, and of course the ex—labour adviser matthew laza nana. i'll start with you. i mean, this is just an affront. when are we going to start putting brits first? >> well, you know , it's like >> well, you know, it's like they don't care about us. i think they're more concerned with how we look to other countries, to other people around the world. so you always hear them bragging about we're the or maybe the the fifth largest or maybe the sixth probably with the sixth now, probably with the fifth largest economy you fifth largest economy in, you know, everyone and yet know, when everyone and yet they're to they're still giving money to china, giving to money china, still giving to money pakistan. some of these countries, which certainly don't need our help, we're still handing out money. but it's all about show. it's like, you know, when you know, you see your neighbours, your neighbours are
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all it look like all trying to make it look like everything's and fine. everything's lovely and fine. this they're doing. but this is what they're doing. but yet the british people, we, the british people, need help more than but we are than ever. but yet we are bragging. and feel though than ever. but yet we are bragcountryid feel though than ever. but yet we are bragcountry is feel though than ever. but yet we are bragcountry is almost though this country is almost turning into third country. into a third world country. >> can't keep lying to the >> we can't keep lying to the british public, a about how british public, a man about how much spending on asylum much we're spending on asylum seekers and refugees. this is coming foreign coming out of our foreign aid budget. come out of it budget. it can't come out of it forever. some point forever. and at some point they're to have to publish they're going to have to publish they're going to have to publish the true cost of this as the years roll on. >> well, i keep on repeating myself, saying need an myself, saying that we need an emergency our emergency stop, to our international aid spending. it's as have as simple as that. we have a huge deficit. we have huge pubuc huge deficit. we have huge public we have huge public spending. we have huge debt. more important debt. and more important than anything else , we have people anything else, we have people right here in this country that need that money more than anything else. yes, we have a responsibility to help the most in need around the world, but that comes with serving our national interests first. now, if we look at our veterans, for example, now, johnny mercer , as example, now, johnny mercer, as a veterans minister, has done
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huge amounts of work to help veterans live a more, better, more easier life. but the fact that he's had to be a veterans minister is testament is an indictment to how bad veterans indictment to how bad veterans in this country have had it for so many years, for so long, so far, more has to be done domestically first. >> and, matthew, i'm just reading here that, you know, the response from the labour party to this affront to the british taxpayer has been labour's sarah champion, who is also the chair of the international development select committee, who actually thinks thing about this thinks the bad thing about this is we're not giving more is that we're not giving more money abroad. is that we're not giving more mo wellbroad. is that we're not giving more mo well ,road. is that we're not giving more mo well , this is a well, this is >> well, this is a well, this is the government is committed to spending this on international aid, and yet it fudges the figures that it can spend the figures so that it can spend the money asylum seekers. money on asylum seekers. >> internationals have come >> the internationals have come here well think that what >> well, well i think that what we is an asylum system that we need is an asylum system that works. mocked the european works. you mocked the european pact. of this european pact. the idea of this european pact. the idea of this european pact people are pact is that people are processed in five not five processed in five days, not five years, which is probably the average that you have in britain. >> if country doesn't want to
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>> if a country doesn't want to adhere to that pact, can go adhere to that pact, they can go through lengthy process that through a lengthy process that may not in them may or may not result in them paying may or may not result in them paying countries take paying other countries to take more they won't more people, which they won't want do. more people, which they won't warbut do. more people, which they won't warbut the key thing is, is it's >> but the key thing is, is it's sensible processing europe's sensible processing at europe's borders don't, which borders so you don't, which hopefully will prevent some people here. if we people coming here. but if we were the problem were but the problem we've got is if take money out of is that if you take money out of the international aid budget, i think international is think international aid is a valuable i think it's valuable thing. i think it's important a country important that a rich country like britain, helps the poorest in but we are in the world. but we are compared the countries that compared to the countries that we're giving it to. but we shouldn't giving money shouldn't be giving money to china. agree, shouldn't be china. i agree, we shouldn't be giving china. giving money to china. >> we shouldn't be giving >> why? we shouldn't be giving money china. pakistan would money to china. pakistan i would says, so rich, says, well, if we're so rich, why so many our own why are so many of our own people struggling to live? we're not i think need to get not rich. i think we need to get out of that mindset. the government to talking government needs to stop talking as we're sort as though we're some sort of rich nation. >> still comparatively >> we are still comparatively nana to the countries nana compared to the countries that helping, which is why that we're helping, which is why we sure that the money we must make sure that the money only goes poorest only goes to the poorest countries, which why money countries, which is why money shouldn't go to china. >> look, i think fair >> well, look, i think it's fair to say yes, britain can
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to say that yes, britain can play to say that yes, britain can play a role in the world in terms helping the terms of helping those in the greatest but but greatest need. yes, but but having that, i think every having said that, i think every single seeker single so—called asylum seeker that's channel that's come across the channel as wallah shouldn't be as a dinghy wallah shouldn't be here the first place. here in the first place. >> i don't agree with you with i mean, with the dinghy thing. yes, absolutely. don't yes, absolutely. but i don't agree with you that we need to show our thing the and show our thing in the world and stuff. your own stuff. i think you get your own house order before you start house in order before you start tidying up. yes. >> and that's why, i mean, one of of international aid of the aims of international aid is make sure that is to try and make sure that people able to stay in the people are able to stay in the part the they're from, part of the world they're from, and feel the to and they don't feel the need to cross the to come here. cross the world to come here. >> foreign should mainly, >> if foreign aid should mainly, mainly third mainly be used to help third world right? what world countries, right? what does britain? so does it say about britain? so the from the centre for the quote from the centre for global think global development think tank, the figures show record the new figures show record spending on refugee hosting, which with other domestic spend, mean now mean the government is now spending the £99 spending over 50% of the £99 billion aid budget billion bilateral aid budget within i mean, we are within the uk. i mean, we are becoming world country. within the uk. i mean, we are becwellg world country. within the uk. i mean, we are becwell that's world country. within the uk. i mean, we are becwell that's right.'ld country. >> well that's right. >> well that's right. >> well, they're spending it here because the here because because the government has completely failed on asylum, because we have a completely system, completely failed asylum system, one inefficient in one of the most inefficient in europe, one that is costing
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europe, and one that is costing the taxpayer tens of the british taxpayer tens of millions. whether you take it out of that pot or that pot. it all comes from the same source, which british taxpayer. which is the british taxpayer. so asylum that so we need an asylum system that works, people works, that processes people quickly, and people who shouldn't home. shouldn't be here are sent home. >> i we need an >> well, i think we need an asylum that actually asylum system that actually treats refugees treats actual genuine refugees for are and not these for what they are and not these illegal economic migrants that keep mean, keep coming around. i mean, let's honest, the vast let's be honest, the vast majority of them are failed asylum seekers germany, asylum seekers from germany, from from italy. asylum seekers from germany, frorwhich from italy. asylum seekers from germany, frorwhich is from italy. asylum seekers from germany, frorwhich is whyn italy. asylum seekers from germany, frorwhich is why we aly. a system >> which is why we need a system that processes people and sends people back they they people back when they when they when failed. when they failed. >> really justify >> that doesn't really justify a lot of the money that we are sending in terms foreign aid sending in terms of foreign aid to so—called countries to those so—called countries that to ridiculous that need the aid to ridiculous projects we're that need the aid to ridiculous projects them we're that need the aid to ridiculous projects them projectsa're that need the aid to ridiculous projects them projects where sending them to projects where the unaccountable, and sending them to projects where the probably unaccountable, and sending them to projects where the probably ending»untable, and sending them to projects where the probably ending uptable, and sending them to projects where the probably ending up in le, and sending them to projects where the probably ending up in theand it's probably ending up in the coffers of a lot of the government people in those corrupt even corrupt countries, not even amalia, afghanistan amalia, south sudan, afghanistan being i mean, being right up there, i mean, why heck are we slated to why the heck are we slated to spend £151 million giving the taliban in afghanistan? >> essentially, people might argue it's going. >> it's for feeding. it's for feeding people who are at risk
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of famine in afghanistan . of famine in afghanistan. >> get there, though, is it? let's realistic, matthew. a let's be realistic, matthew. a lot was lot of those regimes where i was supposed sending money to supposed to be sending money to help up the help the people end up in the coffers of dodgy, corrupt, i think we should. yeah. so i think we should. yeah. so i think should always more think we should always be more efficient, should always efficient, and we should always make properly efficient, and we should always maiproperly properly efficient, and we should always maiproperly accounted perly it's properly accounted for. >> in some of the >> but in places in some of the most in most damaged regimes most in the most damaged regimes in world, people, the people most in the most damaged regimes in 'the d, people, the people most in the most damaged regimes in 'the price)ple, the people most in the most damaged regimes in 'the price are, the people most in the most damaged regimes in 'the price are, you people most in the most damaged regimes in 'the price are, you know,a most in the most damaged regimes in don't|e price are, you know,a most in the most damaged regimes in don't|e pri> maybe need >> you know, maybe they need vaccines that. >> you know, maybe they need vac yeah, that. >> you know, maybe they need vacyeah, but that. >> you know, maybe they need vac yeah, but it's that. >> you know, maybe they need vac yeah, but it's not that. >> you know, maybe they need vacyeah, but it's not goingthat. >> you know, maybe they need vacyeah, but it's not going to it. >> yeah, but it's not going to subsidise taliban regime. subsidise the taliban regime. it's feed people in it's going to feed people in afghanistan, it's afghanistan, and it's going through work on through charities that work on the but there's also a debate to >> but there's also a debate to be want to be be had. do we really want to be the arbiter when it the world's arbiter when it comes a failed comes to providing a failed regimes propping them up ? i regimes with propping them up? i mean, surely, surely the regions themselves ? i mean, let's let's themselves? i mean, let's let's not kid ourselves. the middle east, for example , it's got some east, for example, it's got some of the most richest parts of the world. absolutely. they're not pulling their weight. >> no, i agree with you. other countries need to do their bit andifs countries need to do their bit and it's ego again. >> are largest
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>> and those are fifth largest or economy or sixth largest economy in the world. nonsense. or sixth largest economy in the worno, nonsense. or sixth largest economy in the worno, exactly. nonsense. or sixth largest economy in the worno, exactly. but.ense. or sixth largest economy in the worno, exactly. but look. or sixth largest economy in the worno, exactly. but look when >> no, exactly. but look when the essentially out the truth essentially comes out about is that we are about this, which is that we are only to mask only able to mask the expenditure on asylum seekers and refugees for a period of time . right. and that period of time. right. and that period of time. right. and that period of time is frankly, coming to an end, £4.3 billion of the foreign aid budget being spent. end, £4.3 billion of the foreign aid budget being spent . and of aid budget being spent. and of course, that is essentially due to international laws that allow us to class it as foreign aid development, essentially for penod development, essentially for period of time. but they're still going to stay here. so next year year after next year and the year after that the year after that, that and the year after that, that and the year after that, that taxpayers money. that is just taxpayers money. they keep fudging i they can't keep fudging it. i think that lands think when that when that lands on and the reality lands on people and the reality lands on people and the reality lands on people, you know, governments can well can have a big problem. well look, only one way to look, there's only one way to resolve this. >> keep >> and that is, as i keep on saying, after you saying, week after week, you pick the middle of pick them up in the middle of the channel and you drop them back on french coast. what back on the french coast. what are going are are the french going to do? are they go to war with us? they going to go to war with us? >> luck finding somebody >> good luck finding somebody prepared that, because prepared to do that, because nobody royal navy will nobody in the royal navy will do that. and no sailors will, because against because it's against international maritime law. >> you're picking
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>> well, no, but you're picking them you're dumping them up. you're not dumping somebody, not somebody, so why can you not send my idea is send them back? or my idea is you've cruise all you've got the cruise ships all lined i tell you what, if lined up. i tell you what, if they on cruise ship, they they get on a cruise ship, they will coming. look, if will stop coming. look, if australia realise that if australia could realise that if australia could realise that if australia do it, could we. >> needs political will. >> it needs political will. that's becoming. that's what it's becoming. >> harder and harder >> harder and harder and harder to the amount of money. to justify the amount of money. and saying we're and when they're saying we're closing and closing migrant hotels and then you actually you realise that it's actually going us a amount going to cost us a huge amount more large sites, more to have these large sites, which host around 800 more to have these large sites, wi1000 host around 800 more to have these large sites, wi1000 people host around 800 more to have these large sites, wi1000 people inst around 800 more to have these large sites, wi1000 people in them,nd 800 more to have these large sites, wi1000 people in them, which) more to have these large sites, wi1000 people in them, which is to 1000 people in them, which is a fair weather weekend on the engush a fair weather weekend on the english isn't it? english channel, isn't it? realistically, english channel, isn't it? rea|look1lly, english channel, isn't it? rea|look at', english channel, isn't it? rea|look at the idea now that you look at the idea now that they are essentially masking you look at the idea now that theyforeign;entially masking you look at the idea now that theyforeign;entibudget,;king you look at the idea now that theyforeign;entibudget, andi this foreign aid budget, and masking of money that masking the amount of money that we're spending. there's only so long can this long that you can keep this going before actually everybody wakes up. so there we go. look, coming used rule coming up, we used to rule britannia, but new royal britannia, but now new royal navy longer have to navy recruits no longer have to be to swim. remarkably be able to swim. remarkably right . does the move lay bare right. does the move lay bare the of our armed the dire state of our armed forces? british army forces? former british army commander colonel richard kemp makes that makes a splash on that story. but up next heads ahead but up next in our heads ahead is rees—mogg, right? that is jacob rees—mogg, right? that being on benefits is becoming a lifestyle choice entrepreneur and businessman mike green. he
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goes head head with former goes head to head with former labour spokesman james labour party spokesman james matthewson and reality star jemma lucy. that's on in just a
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former british army officer, colonel richard kemp has his say, but first has being on benefits in britain now become a lifestyle choice? it's time for tonight's head to head . yes, tonight's head to head. yes, benefit spending is rapidly running out of control, with nearly 4 million people at risk of abandoning work permanently as they continue to be paid out of work benefits without any obugafion of work benefits without any obligation to search for a job. meanwhile, 2 million more people will be claiming disability benefits by the end of the decade as mental health problems push the cost to the taxpayer up by more than 50. those figures alone represent nearly 10% of the entire british population. speaking on his show last night, gb news very own jacob rees mogg suggested what may be going on here. >> this costs you a fortune £260 billion a year and is growing . billion a year and is growing. that's about 20% of all public expenditure, which falls on rich and poor taxpayers alike. and
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it's the failure to incentivise people to work that then allows it to become a lifestyle choice paid for by others. that seems to me to be the problem . to me to be the problem. >> okay, so is it a lifestyle choice? let me know your thoughts by heading to gbnews.com/your say or tweet me at gb news. and while you're there, make sure you vote in our poll. the results to follow shortly. first, head shortly. but first, going head to on this our entrepreneur shortly. but first, going head to businessmanjr entrepreneur shortly. but first, going head to businessman mike repreneur shortly. but first, going head to businessman mike green eur shortly. but first, going head to businessman mike green and and businessman mike green and reality starjemma and businessman mike green and reality star jemma lucy. and businessman mike green and reality starjemma lucy. both reality tv star jemma lucy. both of you, thank you very much. great to have you on the show . great to have you on the show. mike, i'll start with you. is being benefits a lifestyle choice? >> w- e not sure w— >> well, i'm not sure it's a choice, but they're certainly not go work, are not choosing to go to work, are they? they're taking the benefit of easy, lacklustre, of such an easy, lacklustre, lazy it easy lazy system that makes it easy for to stay at home. for them to stay at home. >> okay, jemma, your view? same question , i don't necessarily question, i don't necessarily think it's a lifestyle choice ehhen think it's a lifestyle choice either, but i don't think that the alternative is that great. minimum wage is awful. i think that people who do get a job, you're working all these hours
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to make probably not a lot more. and i don't think people are living a good life on benefits ehhen living a good life on benefits either. they're choosing either. so when they're choosing or on benefits, or when they are on benefits, it's they're living the it's not like they're living the high and thinking, is high life and thinking, this is great, just stay on great, let me just stay on benefits rest my benefits for the rest of my life. it's probably pretty life. it's probably still pretty bad, a good enough bad, is that a good enough excuse though, mike? should people a more people not have a bit more personal to out and get personal pride to go out and get up the morning, go to work? up in the morning, go to work? >> yeah, should, but on >> yeah, they should, but on that i can completely that point, i can completely agree jemma sense agree with jemma in the sense that the between benefits that the gap between benefits and the lower income earners is too small . we are not paying a too small. we are not paying a liveable wage to the people at the bottom end of income. and because of that, you've got people who put in a 40 hour week, maybe do some week, maybe even do some overtime still sofa overtime and they're still sofa surfing. cannot afford to surfing. they cannot afford to live. be right that live. it cannot be right that they're only marginally above people benefits. we should be people on benefits. we should be paying people on benefits. we should be paying more to those that are willing to work, paying even willing to work, and paying even less to those that want sit less to those that want to sit at home nothing . at home and do nothing. >> but i'm just going to introduce , okay. which introduce a clip, okay. which we've got. so it's indistinguishable, indistinct.
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yeah. indistinguishable. really this from reality or not. i'm going to bring it up. now this is a chap who's running through his benefits list. i'll talk you through it. all right. so his income 2000 an odd income is about 2000 an odd every on he every single month on that he breaks down he get for breaks down what he can get for that benefits. all right. so that on benefits. all right. so it includes things booze, it includes things like booze, sky, glass, package , sky, sky glass, full package, there as well. vet bills for some kind of parrot. i think it's right in saying all sorts of stuff there. really on all of that. a tanning salon as well, phone looks like. yeah, loads. all sorts of stuff. i mean, gemma, we're paying for this. is that right? >> well, that's just one person. what they choose to do with their bills. i mean, their, their bills. i mean, their, their benefits . but what i think their benefits. but what i think is that there's enough jobs is that there's not enough jobs out at the minute. and out there at the minute. and i think this is like a domino effect all sorts of things effect of all sorts of things from from, even the from covid, from, say, even the education don't even education system. i don't even think education system think our education system teaches on to teaches people enough on how to make money outside rat make money outside of the rat race society. you know, we're race of society. you know, we're all to kind of into all taught to kind of go into these jobs, work, slave away
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from the morning till from eight in the morning till eight night, don't see eight at night, don't ever see your families. those your families. and when those jobs available, nobody jobs aren't available, nobody really to do. so really knows what else to do. so i think that it's like a domino effect all sorts. then effect from all sorts. and then you way back to you go all the way back to covid, where we told, don't covid, where we were told, don't work you can't go to work your jobs, you can't go to work your jobs, you can't go to work you've got small work if you've got small businesses you've 20 businesses that you've spent 20 years these years building up these businesses, gone. businesses, they're now gone. it's . you the it's scrapped. so, you know, the choices aren't great. and choices aren't that great. and i think energy think the whole kind of energy of quite of this country is quite depressing yeah depressing and negative. yeah but is that not because people are and negative, mike? >> i mean, you mike? >> i mean, a mike? >> i mean, if you have a bit about you, you can go to work. you've chance . you've always got the chance. going to is like buying going to work is like buying a lottery ticket. you to lottery ticket. if you go to work and you turn up, you might get you might and get promoted, you might go and get promoted, you might go and get your cv get promoted, you might go and ge going your cv get promoted, you might go and ge going to your cv get promoted, you might go and ge going to look your cv get promoted, you might go and gegoing to look better.)ur cv get promoted, you might go and gegoing to look better. ar cv get promoted, you might go and gegoing to look better. a big is going to look better. a big company somewhere might company somewhere else might come you. you might get come in for you. you might get headhunted, you know headhunted, and before you know it, have five it, you might have that five bedroom detached somewhere bedroom detached house somewhere in roaring bedroom detached house somewhere in and roaring bedroom detached house somewhere in and a roaring bedroom detached house somewhere in and a cockapoo. roaring bedroom detached house somewhere in and a cockapoo. you ing bedroom detached house somewhere in and a cockapoo. you know, fire and a cockapoo. you know, it's stuff, right. it's fantastic stuff, all right. but go to work, you but if you don't go to work, you don't have a chance. but if you don't go to work, you dor patrick. a chance. but if you don't go to work, you dor patrick. it:hance. but if you don't go to work, you dor patrick. it makes my but if you don't go to work, you dorpatrick. it makes my blood >> patrick. it makes my blood boil. i mentor, between 50 and 60 businesses at any point in
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time. mentored time. and i've mentored thousands businesses. thousands of businesses. i've run businesses. run my own businesses. do you know average single person know the average single person self—employed business is earning that little earning less than that little list? you just showed me of benefits. they are working really hard. the government attacks on them. might be attacks on them. they might be turning over more, but by the time they've paid basic costs, they're earning less than that person excuse person who's, excuse my bluntness, on their bluntness, but sitting on their arse. it is about time we made it tougher for these people who don't want to do it. and i also hear from same people . hear from these same people. they struggling to get they are struggling to get people it's too people to work. why? it's too easy them be at home. easy for them to be at home. there are jobs. they might not enjoy job, not, enjoy that job, but if not, learn some things. get learn some more things. get better. do a betterjob, get off better. do a better job, get off your butt, and don't expect the government to look after you. >> everybody's lazy though. he's on about single on benefits. what about single mums got three and mums who have got three kids and they to work? they they can't just go to work? they need benefits. they need pay need benefits. they need to pay for their kids. >> could i ask that? i >> could i ask you on that? i agree could ask you agree with you. could i ask you on on german? let me. on that on that german? let me. sorry, let me just in sorry, matt. let me just come in here because i think here because because i think i know a lot of our viewers and
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listeners might be screwing me at i'm just keen listeners might be screwing me at get i'm just keen listeners might be screwing me at get your i'm just keen listeners might be screwing me at get your answer i'm just keen listeners might be screwing me at get your answer on just keen listeners might be screwing me at get your answer on this. keen listeners might be screwing me at get your answer on this. your to get your answer on this. you know, people might say, know, some people might say, well, you've three well, if you if you've got three kids, should we pay kids, right, why should we pay for should people have for that? why should people have made decision have three kids? >> are you asking me? >> are you asking me? >> sorry >> jeremy? sorry >> jeremy? sorry >> yeah. mean, it's not that >> yeah. i mean, it's not that you for it, you should have to pay for it, but think there should be but i do think there should be some sympathy towards some sort of sympathy towards that in place, you that and a system in place, you know, people kids know, people have kids by accident. people don't accident. some people don't believe abortion, some people believe in abortion, some people find out afterwards, people believe in abortion, some people find 1l0 afterwards, people believe in abortion, some people find 1l0 afterkids,., people believe in abortion, some people find 1l0 afterkids,., know,»ple want to have kids, you know, some people want to make a family them family and that makes them happy. so at the end of the day, there a benefit system in there is a benefit system in place. i think that the place. and i just think that the strategy needs to better of strategy needs to be better of who actually benefiting from who is actually benefiting from it where it is for the it in a way where it is for the reasons or who reasons such as kids or who is actually their arse. actually sitting on their arse. so that need to try so i think that we need to try and, decipher between the two a lot better. >> mike. >> mike. >> problem gemma, >> the problem is, gemma, i think both look at think that we maybe both look at slightly extreme extremes. i don't single person that don't know a single person that i've ever met or mixed with that isn't willing pay for isn't willing to pay for support. look after the people who or incapable of who are unable or incapable of working. but. >> but you're calling everyone
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on benefits lazy and on their own without them. >> we're talking about the millions that are sitting on their asses. mum had five their asses. my mum had five kids when she was a mum kids when she was a single mum at point. okay she went out at one point. okay she went out early and often took of early and often took those of us, what my sister would stay at home, she'd take a couple of us, would help a cleaning job would help her do a cleaning job in evenings. when went in the evenings. when we went to sleep, piecework sewing , sleep, she did piecework sewing, materials that were bought to her. worked while we her. and she worked while we slept. we say something. slept. if we say something. >> so you're expecting a woman to look up to pay for people who aren't willing to work? >> go on. »- >> go on. >> gemma, you're expecting a woman to look after all her kids, then her kids are kids, and then when her kids are asleep, she's knackered all asleep, when she's knackered all day, work all night. that's just ridiculous. that's not possible. >> but know >> it was tough. but you know what? us good work what? it taught us a good work ethic. the minute i could work, my could work, my my brothers could work, my sisters work. wanted sisters could work. we wanted to look my mother, and there look after my mother, and there was within was a responsibility within families looked after us. families. she looked after us. if have work, we if we didn't have work, we looked after her when she couldn't but many kids couldn't work. but so many kids expect to get a flat, expect to get and don't want to work get paid and don't want to work for it. i have no problem with
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supporting those that can't supporting those that can't support themselves, but those that to get off their that don't want to get off their butt . butt. >> i a butt. »| butt. >> i a problem with i agree >> i have a problem with i agree with i just think that with you, but i just think that generalising saying that's what everyone's doing on benefits, it just i get that, yeah, i do, i do understand and i think we, you we've the we've you know, we've picked the we've picked i'd say maybe extreme example. >> know, you know the >> i don't know, you know the single mom with three but single mom with three kids. but but look the figures here, but i look at the figures here, 10% the entire british 10% of the entire british population could well find themselves and themselves on benefits. and gemma , there's no way that 10% gemma, there's no way that 10% of the population needs to be on benefits. and even if we upped the minimum wage , you know, is the minimum wage, you know, is this not is this not a bad case of lazy itis ? of lazy itis? >> i don't i don't think that all the 10, you know , need to be all the 10, you know, need to be on benefits. but like i said earlier, i think it's a domino effect covid. and i to effect from covid. and i want to just go to what i said just go back to what i said about education system. about the education system. i think that people are not learning on to make learning enough on how to make money outside society, money outside of society, outside rat race, which outside of the rat race, which can like can be depressing. people like andrew talk about andrew tate sort of talk about how to do things like e—commerce
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brands online and making money online, but i don't think anybody's for that conversation. >> i think that is actually a really, really good point, mike. i'll give you the final word on this, because actually think this, because i actually think that should be looking that we should be looking at situations in situations like this now in schools. done with a schools. we've done away with a huge apprentices huge number of apprentices or certainly not actively encouraged have encouraged them. what we have encouraged them. what we have encouraged is to go encouraged people to do is to go and completely rubbish, and do completely rubbish, meaningless university courses that settle them with lifetime that settle them with a lifetime worth and probably suck worth of debt and probably suck the of them and drain the life out of them and drain a few brain cells with the three litres you litres of frosty jack's you consume day backwater consume every day at backwater university, studying underwater basket weaving when fact we basket weaving when in fact we could people look , could be teaching people look, this is how you can have a practical trade or this is how you might be able to duck and dive a little bit, is dive a little bit, and this is how might be able to, you how you might be able to, you know, make of money know, make a bit of money completely of course, completely legally. of course, we that, do we? we don't really do that, do we? >> listen, i on my podcast, >> no. listen, i on my podcast, i've like charlie >> no. listen, i on my podcast, i've of like charlie >> no. listen, i on my podcast, i've of pimlico e charlie >> no. listen, i on my podcast, i've of pimlico plumbers, mullins of pimlico plumbers, i've best, the gypsy i've had alfie best, the gypsy billionaire. they didn't go to university. go to university. i didn't go to university. i didn't go to university. know about university. i didn't know about yourself, getting yourself, gemma. but in getting out to work, we had to then learn life. and know
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learn from life. and you know what? didn't to do some what? i didn't want to do some of jobs i had to do. but of the jobs i had to do. but getting them, some getting in them, i earned some money. was like money. i felt what it was like to my own money, to be able to earn my own money, to be able to earn my own money, to be able to for a drink, knowing i to go out for a drink, knowing i bought that not more bought that drink. not more pressure mum to pay for pressure on my mum to pay for that and i wanted to that drink. and then i wanted to get and do better. we get better and do better. and we haven't instilled the work ethic in and actually in people and we're actually demonising apprenticeships and lower level jobs by basically making people feel a failure if they don't go to university. i completely agree that is not the answer for all young people. >> i just say both of you, >> can i just say both of you, thank you very, very much. that was drawer stuff was absolutely top drawer stuff that to head, that's that for a head to head, that's my entrepreneur and my green. now, entrepreneur and businessman star my green. now, entrepreneur and busineslucy. star my green. now, entrepreneur and busineslucy. hope star my green. now, entrepreneur and busineslucy. hope to star my green. now, entrepreneur and busineslucy. hope to talk star my green. now, entrepreneur and busineslucy. hope to talk syou jemma lucy. hope to talk to you again very soon. who again both very, very soon. who do with? was jacob do you agree with? was jacob rees—mogg right that being on benefits becoming lifestyle benefits is becoming a lifestyle choice? says anyone choice? tracy on x says anyone who grown up in a working who has grown up in a working class this is the class area knows this is the truth been the truth for truth and has been the truth for decades. game the decades. so many people game the system. it's unbelievable, rachel for some it is a rachel says. for some it is a lifestyle choice, but for others, like husband, it others, like my husband, it sadly choice. oh gosh. sadly isn't a choice. oh gosh. after was diagnosed with after he was diagnosed with aggressive four throat
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aggressive stage four throat cancer and unable to work since june 2018. and i think everyone rachel, obviously we rachel, firstly, obviously we wish you and your husband all the very best and i don't think those the kind of people at those are the kind of people at all we're talking about all that we're talking about when this when we're having this discussion about benefits, gary says. i think benefits are becoming choice illegal becoming the choice for illegal migrants no one seems to migrants, but no one seems to care. right. your verdict is now in. you say that being on in. 86% of you say that being on benefits is becoming a lifestyle choice. you disagree that choice. 14% of you disagree that it not right. coming up, it is not right. coming up, a wet guardian columnist says the quiet part out loud by declaring that he wants to take the great out of great britain. why do the left hate our country so much? british patriot and former tory minister ann widdecombe has something to say on that very, very shortly. but next, the royal navy moves solve its royal navy moves to solve its recruitment crisis by allowing non—swimmers sign non—swimmers to sign up as sailors we lost the plot? sailors have. we lost the plot? and does this lay bare the dire state of our armed forces? former army commander former british army commander colonel kemp and colonel richard kemp is live and it's
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next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. loads to get through. no nonsense. i'm widdicombe on the way. but first, the royal navy ruled the waves for centuries . with its fearsome centuries. with its fearsome fleet of ships and seafarers patrolling the med was a doddle. and the french and spanish were dispatched at trafalgar. today, though, it's a different story. not only do we fail to stop rubber dinghies crossing the channel rubber dinghies crossing the channel, it's now been revealed that new royal navy no
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that new royal navy recruits no longer have to prove they can swim before starting training. defence sources have blasted the move as desperate a relaxing of standards to tackle the navy recruitment crisis. if it transpires recruits are not able to pass the royal navy swim test, they will remain in phase one basic training while they receive swimming lessons. asked how the change had gone down internally, a source told sky outrage unadulterated , utter outrage unadulterated, utter outrage unadulterated, utter outrage yeah, it's a race to the bottom , literally the bottom. bottom, literally the bottom. the navy defended the move by saying recruitment and retention were priorities and the changes were priorities and the changes were designed to reduce delays for candidates to join while retaining the same level of swimming ability. look, i'm joined by former british joined now by former british army commander colonel richard kemp . colonel richard, what do kemp. colonel richard, what do you make of this? is it more or less embarrassing than the time that we allegedly accidentally wired a royal navy ship to only be able to go backwards ? be able to go backwards? >> well, even though i was, i
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was , i was in the army. i was was, i was in the army. i was never good enough to join the royal navy, even though i could swim, but i think i don't actually have a problem with this. i think it's perfectly reasonable to allow people to join the navy and train them to swim. it doesn't take a great deal of time. it's not a big deal deal of time. it's not a big deal, and everyone can do it. so i don't think that's a huge issue.i i don't think that's a huge issue. i think it's better than letting come the letting people come to the recruiting try join recruiting office, try to join the , get told you've got to the navy, get told you've got to go away, learn to swim and get discouraged something go away, learn to swim and get disco so ged something go away, learn to swim and get disco so lad something go away, learn to swim and get disco so i think something go away, learn to swim and get disco so i think it's something go away, learn to swim and get disco so i think it's okay. thing go away, learn to swim and get disco so i think it's okay. what else. so i think it's okay. what it does do is it indicates that, it does do is it indicates that, it does do is it indicates that, it does indicate the which we know anyway , the growing know about anyway, the growing manpower crisis in the armed forces, and it comes down to two real things. one is the failure to retain people in the navy and the army and the air force because of poor conditions of service, bad pay, etc. >> how bad is that pay? could i just ask you, could i just ask
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you how roughly how bad is the pay-7 you how roughly how bad is the pay? what kind of pay are we talking about for in the navy? >> i can't, i can't tell you that. i'm afraid i don't have that. i'm afraid i don't have that information, but it's. it's great. and it's not so much. it's not even the pay. it's the general conditions that that members of the armed forces in all services are subjected to , all services are subjected to, for example, very poor housing, for example, very poor housing, for particular families, in some cases, very poor barrack accommodation , a cutback in accommodation, a cutback in allowances and various other things like that. and due to shortage of manpower, it's , it shortage of manpower, it's, it comes, you know, the unpleasant dufies comes, you know, the unpleasant duties come around more quickly, making people not want to stay . making people not want to stay. so that's a problem. but i think an even bigger problem than retention is, recruiting the armed forces, the army , i would armed forces, the army, i would say, in particular, from my own experience, is extremely bad at recruiting people. and if the navy turns people away because they can't swim, they the army
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will turn people away if they've got if they need a filling until they get the dentist to sort that out, and then they'll go away . away. >> i would ask, is that fair, though? richard is that fair, though? >> because, look, i mean, i look at the royal navy here, it says this is according to their own website, right? rating paid day one 18,500 pounds a year. they then make the cake, which by the way i think is, is really poor. right. they then make the case though that you've got no rent, no bills, 30 days holiday on full pay, free gym membership, travel and also the travel for free and also the possibility to and die for possibility to fight and die for your and regular your country and the regular job. they say that the average school leaver is on 19.5 grand, but grand. but they the but grand. but they make the case again, you've got to case that again, you've got to pay case that again, you've got to pay all of that other stuff. pay for all of that other stuff. they an officer on day they say that an officer on day one on £31,000. yeah. one is on £31,000. so yeah. look, agree with you. the pay look, i agree with you. the pay itself not particularly itself is not particularly appealing, is this maybe appealing, but is this not maybe just though, just a sign? seriously though, that if you can't swim when you are being recruited for the navy, i would argue that is more of a concern than whether or not
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someone is going to be, you know, sent over the top somewhere and he's a needs a filling. no >> well, i think it's part of the same problem because what it does, it discourages people who want to join the navy from doing so or the army and, and that and it's just a part of a bureaucratic web, which seems to me to be designed to prevent people from joining some, some people from joining some, some people can go and apply to join the army and take six months or a before get through a year before they get through the i think also the the process. i think also the swimming thing, i don't have the data. i would guess it applies to very small number to a very small number of people, number. i people, not a huge number. i think people probably think most people can probably swim. maybe wrong, but swim. maybe i'm wrong, but i mean, it's not a big deal. i mean, it's not a big deal. i mean, the dental is mean, the dental thing is, is a little bit better. >> a lot of examples, >> there's a lot of examples, though , just aspects of though, of just other aspects of the not particularly the royal navy not particularly working. quite literally the royal navy not particularly wcthe,;. quite literally the royal navy not particularly wcthe, in quite literally the royal navy not particularly wcthe, in the quite literally the royal navy not particularly wcthe, in the casejuite literally the royal navy not particularly wcthe, in the case of e literally the royal navy not particularly wcthe, in the case of some'ally in the, in the case of some ships, royal navy warships crashed into each other due to, being rewired. that being incorrectly rewired. that was in january 2024, apparently we've had an issue with some aircraft carriers, supposedly
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not really being able to carry any aircraft, which i imagine is any aircraft, which i imagine is a slight problem. is this just a wider symptom of the fact that our actual defence forces are knackered at a time when we arguably need them more than we've ever needed them since world 11? i mean, putin's world war ii? i mean, putin's not quaking in his boots. we couldn't fire a cough couldn't even fire a new cough one before, we were one on them before, but we were told, oh, don't worry, it'll be alright night. alright on the night. well, we'll dead then. we'll all be dead by then. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. the armed forces are actually knackered. they've got some extremely good people serving in them who are willing to serve their country, but they're not funded. well enough. and i've no doubt that the engineering problems that the navy's experiencing, navy's been experiencing, including the missile problem, is not enough money is down to not enough money being devoted to maintaining ships . and the same applies to ships. and the same applies to the other services. they haven't got enough men . they haven't got got enough men. they haven't got enough women, got enough women, they haven't got enough women, they haven't got enough equipment and they enough combat equipment and they haven't got they just haven't got enough money. you got enough money. and, you know, even as as war in ukraine even as as the war in ukraine has been unfolding and everyone's talking about everyone's been talking about how, threat we are,
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how, much under threat we are, the army and the navy the british army and the navy and the air force, but particularly the british army has been decreasing in as has been decreasing in size as we seen threat we have seen the threat increase. it's and it's not just a matter of being able to fight. it's also a matter of deterrence. you've got to have you've have military you've got to have military strength and a demonstrable political it in to , political will to use it in to, order to avoid having. >> well, i agree with you. like the enemies , we're going to have the enemies, we're going to have to leave it there. >> and we can all agree >> and i think we can all agree that is a bloody good thing that it is a bloody good thing that it is a bloody good thing that giving £151 million that we're giving £151 million to afghanistan this year. that that we're giving £151 million to a'do anistan this year. that that we're giving £151 million to a'do us, tan this year. that that we're giving £151 million to a'do us, the this year. that that we're giving £151 million to a'do us, the worldear. that that we're giving £151 million to a'do us, the world of that that we're giving £151 million to a'do us, the world of good will do us, the world of good when it comes stopping people when it comes to stopping people who to kill us from who indeed want to kill us from killing us. that's former who indeed want to kill us from killing army1at's former who indeed want to kill us from killing army commander colonel british army commander colonel richard know, richard kemp. there you know, speaking truths the speaking some truths about the state forces. state of our armed forces. unfortunately coming up ten, unfortunately coming up at ten, a flurry labour mps a flurry of labour mps performing screeching u—turns. performing screeching u —turns. now performing screeching u—turns. now the trans amid the now on the trans debate amid the bombshell acas review. but as labour's militant leftists like nadia whittome refuse to accept the truth , will the party tear the truth, will the party tear itself apart again over the trans issue? and can we trust
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labour with our country's kids? but next, a self—loathing guardian columnist says we should take the great out of great britain so why do these wet leftists hate their own country so much? no nonsense former tory minister ann widdecombe. let's rip
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next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, coming up at ten, shadow health secretary wes streeting has pulled a screech ing u—turn in the trans debate. he's one of many, by the way, after the publication of the cass report. but do you really trust labour with your kids? first, though, we welcome former tory minister ann widdecombe and the columnist over at the guardian, who found a new way of attacking the nation with martin kettle, who looks to be a very cheery bloke. look at that. good at parties is martin writing the following tripe about reviving britain? look central to national renewal will be articulating a more nuanced and
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inclusive sense of ourselves and of our country in a place of preposterous and exclusive one. in this rebuild ing national boastfulness will be as out of place as national self—loathing. occasionally i flirt. he's not flirted with anything for a while. occasionally i flirt with the fantasy of a new statue to rename country simply rename this country simply britain . that's not going to britain. that's not going to happen, but it's still true that britain needs to get beyond the rhetoric and thinking of itself as great britain . if it can, as great britain. if it can, this really might be a greater place for us all. and when do people on the left start hating britain? >> well, i don't know. >> well, i don't know. >> but what i do know is that if a country is great and thinks of itself as great and calls itself great, that is of a benefit to every single citizen in it. man woman and child. because you want your country to be great. you it to be successful. you want it to be successful. you want it to be successful. you be economically you want it to be economically vibrant . you want it to be all vibrant. you want it to be all those things, and you want to those things, and you want it to be country other people be a country that other people will respect. and people will say, isn't say, yes, you know, isn't britain well, so course
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britain doing well, so of course we want our country to be great. and this is just some, you know , and this is just some, you know, vacuous nonsense, quite honestly. yeah >> i mean, he doesn't look like a particularly happy chap. he looks exactly like the kind of guy who might wander around everywhere going, oh, just everywhere and going, oh, i just i just hate this place. now, viewers might viewers and listeners might think, a minute. think, well, hang on a minute. you spent the first section of this off this show slagging off our foreign we're foreign aid thing, saying, we're getting immigration. foreign aid thing, saying, we're gettingdoing immigration. foreign aid thing, saying, we're gettingdoing sectionmigration. foreign aid thing, saying, we're gettingdoing section laterition. foreign aid thing, saying, we're gettingdoing section later on 1. you're doing a section later on in show about our nhs is in the show about our nhs is knackered. you have knackered. patrick, you have a go britain all the go at great britain all the time. but that is an because i do think this place and do think this place is great and i it to its i want to restore it to its former greatness. and there's a difference, there? difference, isn't there? >> mean, i it's >> well, i mean, i think it's very simple test. know, very simple to test. you know, if you you don't think this if you say you don't think this country is great, would country is great, where would you to you know, you prefer to live? you know, where you actually want where would you actually want to go answer is that you go, and the answer is that you want here despite things want to stay here despite things going wrong, will always going wrong, things will always going wrong, things will always go any country. are go wrong in any country. we are not alone. but thing i do not alone. but one thing i do get by is that we get irritated by is that we always talk about what's wrong with britain. totally out of context with what's going on
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everywhere and, and you everywhere else, and, and you know, we're not uniquely in a mess . every country that mess. every country that suffered covid is in a mess. we're not unique, so, unless, he can tell me where he would prefer to live. then britain's great. >> it remains to be seen whether or not mr cattle has a second home anywhere. but if he's writing columns for the guardian, there's every chance he does, i suppose. and just. just on that, though, is there a problem with the psychology of the wanting to the left? instead of wanting to maybe britain see maybe build britain up and see it standing own two feet it standing on its own two feet and really tubthumping and going for idea that for it, there is this idea that we need accept decline . we need to accept decline. >> no, we don't need to accept decline. indeed, it's very dangerous to accept decline, a decline arrested and decline needs to be arrested and not just, you know, accepted , as not just, you know, accepted, as if there's no possibility of challenge , so, no, we don't challenge, so, no, we don't accept decline. of course you accept decline. of course you accept that things change. you know, we're not a great imperial power anymore. and i shouldn't think we want to be, but, you
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know, things change. but that doesn't mean we accept decline , doesn't mean we accept decline, which is a different concept altogether . altogether. >> okay? all right, now, look, i'm going to move it on because rishi sunak gradual smoking ban will brought to the commons will be brought to the commons next week. it's designed to gradually smoking by gradually phase out smoking by increasing the legal age limit every that means every single year. that means brits turn this year will brits who turn 15 this year will never able to buy cigarettes never be able to buy cigarettes or cigars. not everyone's happy. >> i look at some of the >> when i look at some of the things that were, were, were doing now, i think, or that are being done in the name of conservatism, i they're conservatism, i think they're absolutely, nuts. absolutely, absolutely nuts. we're and what we're banning cigars. and what is i mean, maybe, maybe you all think that's a great idea. i just can't i can't see what what is the point of banning with a the of winston churchill the party of winston churchill wants to ban? i mean, don it don him what and break as they say in quebec, you know , it's just in quebec, you know, it's just it's just it's just mad. >> is it just mad? an >> is it just mad? an >> oh, absolutely lunatic. and i can't believe that he's , giving
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can't believe that he's, giving any time to this at all, under his proposal, which is that the age at which you can legally buy age at which you can legally buy a cigarette, will increase year upon year under these proposals, there will come a time when a 44 year old commits an offence. if he buys a cigarette for a 43 year old. i mean, that is the extent of the lunacy. now, you know, i can think of a lot of things that the people in this country are worried about. are they worried about the economy? they're nhs, they're worried about the nhs, they're about defence. they're worried about defence. they're whole they're worried about a whole load do not believe load of things. i do not believe that is worried about that anybody is worried about a 44 year old buying a cigarette for a 43 year old, which is what this legislation comes down to. he is completely barmy to be doing this and it won't last. it won't survive . won't survive. >> he might actually face a rebellion on it, which would mean that one of only two things that he dared to suggest as policies in his conference speech already blown speech would already be blown out so they look out of the water. so they look and we're going to move it on to something bit more, i think. something a bit more, i think. well meaningful. maybe something a bit more, i think. well joining meaningful. maybe something a bit more, i think. well joining usieaningful. maybe something a bit more, i think. well joining usieaninessex’viaybe
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you're joining us from essex this evening, i believe after spending in southend spending your day in southend giving a speech on behalf of the family sir david amess, a family of sir david amess, a statue of the former mp who was tragically by the tragically murdered by the islamist knifeman back in 2021, was unveiled , with guests was also unveiled, with guests including priti patel and andrew rosindell and could you just talk a little bit about this, please? an emotional day, i imagine a very emotional day indeed. >> and, the widow was present, and also an awful lot of people whom david amess had helped, while he was a member of parliament, had come along, to pay parliament, had come along, to pay their respects and to honour him. the statue is magnificent. it captures his expression. exactly. i didn't know what it was going to be like. it is done absolutely brilliantly . and when absolutely brilliantly. and when you look at it, you can see david and you think, could we just just while i'm talking, is there any chance i might be able to remind of to just remind ourselves of what that looks just that statue looks like in just a second well? second as well? >> because, anne, you were saying is a vitally saying yes, this is a vitally important to remember. important thing to remember. a great isn't it, is. and great man, isn't it, it is. and he a great man, and he was
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he was a great man, and he was admired sides the he was a great man, and he was admirein sides the he was a great man, and he was admirein parliament.sides the he was a great man, and he was admirein parliament. but; the he was a great man, and he was admirein parliament. but he the house in parliament. but he always had a ready grin and there it is on his face, in that statue . and that is that is statue. and that is that is david. that is david to a t. and of course, we remember that he was murdered by a muslim fundamentalist . fundamentalist. >> yes, indeed. and it's important not to forget that although it was for my money, all too easily forgotten at the time, because his death seemed to signify why we need to clamp down on social media down on stuff on social media and not actually islamist terrorism, which did find terrorism, which i did find a little bonkers. so seemed terrorism, which i did find a littleyou bonkers. so seemed terrorism, which i did find a littleyou bonkeryet o seemed terrorism, which i did find a littleyou bonkeryet anotherned like, you know, yet another example the example of rearranging the decking on the titanic and but, look, he he was a tremendous look, he was he was a tremendous man. i only wish that we maybe had more like in, in had a few more like him in, in parliament. i we had parliament. and i wish we had a whole parliament full of david amess. >> but i'm afraid if you look at the quality of parliament at the moment, it is appalling, and parliament in the sense of both houses, both the house of commons and the house of lords, andindeed commons and the house of lords, and indeed for that matter, the civil if the lowest civil service, if the lowest quality ever remember.
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quality i can ever remember. >> right. and thank you very >> all right. and thank you very much ever. is a much as ever. that is a wonderful widdecombe wonderful ann widdecombe coming up. victory up. rishi sunak takes a victory lap revealed the nhs lap as it's revealed the nhs waiting dropped for the waiting list dropped for the fifth month but with fifth month in a row. but with junior doctors pledging to strike are they going strike again, are they going to be blame for bulging waiting be to blame for bulging waiting lists? i'll be joined by former environment secretary ranil jayawardena. but labour mps jayawardena. but next labour mps are performing screeching u—turns on the trans debate. would you trust labour with your kids, and can you forgive them for getting it so badly wrong? >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, it will be a cloudy start tomorrow but it should brighten up later on in the day . tomorrow but it should brighten up later on in the day. but for the far north—west we'd like to see fairly persistent rain . high see fairly persistent rain. high pressure is starting to spread its influence into southern areas of the uk, but further north and west will see weather
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> goodness me. that speech was probably one of the worst transphobic dog whistle speeches that i have heard in an awful long time . long time. >> no forgiveness for labour. trans lunatics. and you still go and work abroad somewhere like canada or australia. do you think it's. >> i'm not ruling it out in the future. >> nhs waiting lists are down. a win for sunak plus. >> very confident in andrew. i'm very confident in angela rayner. have 100% confident angela
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rayner gets the kiss of death . rayner gets the kiss of death. >> also out of their minds. flesh eating zombie drug that's coming to the uk. i've got tomorrow's front pages with gb news star nana akua , founder of news star nana akua, founder of global britain, almond mogul and ex—labour adviser matthew laza. oh, and what did trump order? i have 30 milkshakes and also some chicken . yeah, there was more chicken. yeah, there was more than that. get ready britain. here we go. you can't trust labour with your kids. next . kids. next. >> just after 10:00. the latest top story from the gb news room. a subpostmistress who was wrongly jailed while she was pregnant has refused to accept the apology of a post office
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executive who sent an email in 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant . 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant. david 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant . david smith told the brilliant. david smith told the post office inquiry today that with hindsight, he understood the anger and upset as well as the anger and upset as well as the substantial distress he'd caused to seema misra and her family, saying he was sorry for the way his email had been perceived and portrayed. mrs. misra was falsely accused of stealing £74,000 and had to give birth wearing a probation tag. she said i was eight weeks pregnant at the time . they need pregnant at the time. they need to apologise to my son. it was terrible . between 1999 and 2015, terrible. between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 subpostmasters were accused were prosecuted due to flawed horizon it software for. in other news today, a moroccan asylum seeker on trial for the murder of a pensioner in hartlepool told police he was motivated by the conflict in gaza. 45 year old ahmed ali denies murdering 70 year old terence carney as well as the
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attempted murder of his housemate javid nouri last october. he says he carried out the attacks as an act of revenge, for, he said israel's killing of children in the palestinian conflict. he's also accused of assaulting two female police officers who'd interviewed him after his arrest . the royal mail says it's working to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation after an increase in reports of fakes being sold in shops and online, the telegraph reports. today. china is flooding britain with counterfeit royal mail stamps, with small retailers buying forgeries online. it's understood the fakes were causing a rise in complaints when stamps bought from legitimate stores were being deemed fraudulent, resulting in a £5 fine for the receiver . a a £5 fine for the receiver. a once a day migraine pill has been recommended for use on the nhs, with a charity claiming it could change the lives of thousands of people. the pill,
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sold under the brand name of equipto, has been given the green light for nhs use under new final draft guidance. anyone who experiences at least four migraines a month and has tried at least three other methods of treatment but found no relief , treatment but found no relief, will be eligible, and the former american footballer oj simpson has died of cancer at the age of 76. he was surrounded by his family, who released a statement this afternoon saying he was with his grandchildren and his children at the time. oj simpson was acquitted of killing his ex—wife nicole brown simpson and her friend ron goldman in 1994, in a trial that gripped america for almost 100 million people watched live television coverage of the now famous pursuit of oj driving a white ford bronco followed by multiple police cars across la . after his record across la. after his record breaking career in football, he became an actor . but breaking career in football, he became an actor. but in breaking career in football, he became an actor . but in 2008 he became an actor. but in 2008 he was convicted for his role in a las vegas armed robbery and served almost nine years in prison . that's the news. for the
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prison. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts , scan the qr code on news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com. slash alerts . slash alerts. >> would you trust the labour party with your kids? labour mps drank the transgender kool—aid. they are responsible for turning the trans debate toxic. they are responsible for encouraging this madness. madness that was revealed by yesterday's cash reports would have been nothing more than experimentation on vulnerable children by unhinged activists and medical professionals, who many think should now face criminal prosecution. here's labour mp nadia whitham's reaction. she essentially said that trans children's health and wellbeing should not be a front in a toxic culture war. she got community noted for that. actually, it's noted for that. actually, it's not linked to a toxic culture war, it said. it is all about whether or not a radical ideology had gripped the nhs and was ruining kids lives. but
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thank you, nadia, for giving me the opportunity now to highlight how it was labour mps who were and are the toxic ones in this discussion. step forward lloyd russell—moyle, labour mp for brighton kemptown and the leader of the socialist campaign group, being unhinged, vile , being unhinged, vile, threatening and disgusting towards a fellow mp who wanted towards a fellow mp who wanted to stand up against trans madness. goodness me, that speech was probably one of the worst transphobic dog whistle speeches that i have heard in an awful long time. >> the idea of linking trans people with predators , frankly, people with predators, frankly, is disgusting, and you should be ashamed . the reality of this is ashamed. the reality of this is this section 35 is the new tories section 28. it is their continuation of a war against a group of people. their culture war that they want to pursue. >> what about labour mps jeering their own colleague rosie duffield when she wanted to stand up for women's spaces?
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>> netflix with the equality act and would have repercussions for women for women across the uk . women for women across the uk. does the secretary of necessarily segregated by sex, such as domestic violence settings, changing rooms and prisons , and given the previous prisons, and given the previous ucu? does he not understand how vitally important this is at the moment ? moment? >> what about mp kate osborne? barefaced lying about kemi badenoch we are seeing? >> i would say, almost an epidemic of young gay children , epidemic of young gay children, young gay children being told that they are trans and being. >> yes, okay, what about that time that labour mps filibustered about ferrets to block a parliamentary debate on protecting biological sex for children ? children? >> i thought i would take the opportunity as it hasn't been taken many times during this session of parliament to actually talk about ferrets a little more. on april the 2nd national ferret day will be marked the risk of rabies from
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illegally imported ferrets and ferrets, ironically, absolutely stink . stink. >> and so has keir starmer's attitude towards women helping to push this trans madness even more. >> they come not. i don't think we can conduct this debate with, you know, sorry if i offended you know, sorry if i offended you in some no, no, no , it's you in some no, no, no, it's just no, no, no, i just and now here comes the utterly shameless shadow home secretary yvette coopen shadow home secretary yvette cooper, taking the high ground now on this report . now on this report. >> well, i hope that this report really is a watershed moment for the nhs, for nhs gender services , because this is the report's clear . clear. >> it's basically talking about evidence, focusing on evidence , evidence, focusing on evidence, focusing on children's welfare and why were you, yvette? >> where were you when it mattered ? here's labour's shadow mattered? here's labour's shadow health minister wes streeting, welcoming report . welcoming the report. >> if you'd asked me a few years
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ago on this topic, i would have said trans men are men, trans women are women. some people are trans. get over it. let's move on. this is this is all blown out of proportion. we were trying to raise the facts. >> do regret? regret? >> do you regret? regret? >> do you regret? regret? >> absolutely take >> i absolutely take the criticism chin. criticism on the chin. >> it's all too little, >> and it's all too little, too late, it ? late, isn't it? >> the fact is, if it wasn't for the tories, there wouldn't be an attempt stop social attempt to stop social transitioning parents transitioning against parents wishes would wishes in schools. there would be to no opposition to be little to no opposition to male women's prisons. male rapists in women's prisons. sir hairy blokes in women's changing rooms. there would have been report, would been no catch report, would there? still be there? kids would still be mutilated. the tavistock would still be a thing. you can bet your bottom dollar that labour wouldn't have done a thing about it. now, when you go to the polls, maybe just think would you leave labour alone with your kids ? let's get the thoughts of kids? let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am joined by gb news presenter nana akua founding chairman of global britain , armand bogle, and britain uk, armand bogle, and also ex—labour adviser matthew laza nana. can you trust labour
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with your kids ? with your kids? >> well, i mean, they have shown themselves to be ridiculous. i mean, keir starmer, i can't get over that one. when he was, when he asked about whether he was asked about whether women over know over pmqs. well, i don't know what he was doing with his hands, but this is something that my six year old could tell you the difference between a man and woman, and has problem and a woman, and has no problem saying that . i don't understand saying that. i don't understand why struggled it so why they struggled with it so much, but i think it's interesting that now people like wes coming out and wes streeting are coming out and trying to garner favour because they've realised frankly , they've realised that frankly, they've realised that frankly, the cass report, which i'm so glad back again and has glad has come back again and has empowered people to accept and acknowledge that a biological man is a biological man, a woman is a woman , a biological woman is a woman, a biological woman is a woman, a biological woman is a woman, a biological woman is a woman. a woman can never be a . a man can be a man. a man can never be a woman. somebody who thinks that is something and is suffering from something and whatever is. whatever that is. >> dare labour mps >> how dare labour mps and people with him now people associated with him now come out and start saying, the most is that we most important thing is that we have the toxicity from have to remove the toxicity from this excuse the this debate. excuse me? you, the ones ranting raving about ones ranting and raving about transphobes, cost
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transphobes, trying to cost people trying to people their jobs, trying to cost livelihoods, cost people their livelihoods, trying everything from trying to take everything from them. look, i think i agree >> well, look, i think i agree with you, look, labour and with you, nana, look, labour and the left love a good picket line. their radar , their line. right? their radar, their political radar is always focusing finding full focusing on finding full outraged driving division and finding outrage where there isn't actually any. look, the vast majority of people in the uk , they are pretty happy to let uk, they are pretty happy to let people be okay. but but labour, i mean wes streeting keir starmer can't work out what a woman is. i mean, at the end of the day , this is this is an the day, this is this is an affront to women, to womanhood , affront to women, to womanhood, to the very idea of being a woman. that's what this is . woman. that's what this is. >> all right, matthew, you know, i look at this now and i just think if it had been a labour government in all of this time, there have no real there would have been no real pushback transitioning pushback to social transitioning in cass report in schools. the cass report almost would never have. >> i don't know how there's no evidence report evidence that the castle report wouldn't happened at all. wouldn't have happened at all. labour cass report wouldn't have happened at all. labthe cass report wouldn't have happened at all. labthe way cass report wouldn't have happened at all. labthe way along. cass report wouldn't have happened at all. labthe way along. lookass report wouldn't have happened at all. labthe way along. look whoeport all the way along. look who commissioned it. well, the government it? yes, but government wasn't it? yes, but the government would have
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happened. absolutely . we're happened. yes, absolutely. we're not look. not in government. look. no, look . i mean, patrick, look on this. i mean, patrick, i think saying that you can't trust labour with your kids, it's actually pretty offensive , it's actually pretty offensive, both the labour party and to both of the labour party and to the, plus percent of the, the 40 plus percent of people country say people in this country who say that vote that they're going to vote labour at the next election. i mean, think what is absolutely mean, i think what is absolutely clear is that trans debate clear is that the trans debate is has been too toxic and is to it has been too toxic and it that people it has been wrong that people have i'm going it has been wrong that people ha say i'm going it has been wrong that people ha say quite i'm going it has been wrong that people ha say quite clearly, i'm going it has been wrong that people ha say quite clearly, i i'm going it has been wrong that people ha say quite clearly, i think| going to say quite clearly, i think that, that always get his name that, that i always get his name wrong. russell—moyle, who that, that i always get his name wrthe. russell—moyle, who that, that i always get his name wrthe mp russell—moyle, who that, that i always get his name wrthe mp forrussell—moyle, who that, that i always get his name wrthe mp for pas.ell—moyle, who that, that i always get his name wrthe mp for pas for—moyle, who that, that i always get his name wrthe mp for pas for brighton, rho is the mp for pas for brighton, was there and his was unhinged there and his behaviour was utterly inappropriate did the inappropriate and so did the majority labour mps. wes majority of labour mps. wes streeting, for streeting, who used to work for stonewall, has absolutely stonewall, has been absolutely clear as he's he's clear that as as as he's he's been on a journey about how the debate is handled because the treatment of rosie duffield . treatment of rosie duffield. >> exactly, exactly. go to her own conference because she own party conference because she dared say that only dared to say exactly that only women have. >> i think that's partly >> well, i think that's partly because campaigners >> well, i think that's partly bethe;e campaigners >> well, i think that's partly bethe conference, campaigners >> well, i think that's partly bethe conference, notmpaigners >> well, i think that's partly bethe conference, not labourers at the conference, not labour people at conference, but it people at the conference, but it was the labour was it was it was the labour party. she spoke about it exactly. >> i mean, look, well she's just been disciplinary been she's the disciplinary procedures against have just
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been that she been dropped for things that she did other colleagues. did against other colleagues. >> but another u—turn >> nothing but another u—turn from labour. try i'll tell you. look, me explain. look, let me let me explain. look, let me let me explain. look, labour party is made up of fringe elements. that's what it is . is. >> that's absolute rubbish. >> that's absolute rubbish. >> no is. the labour party >> no it is. the labour party speaks for the majority of british but we just had british people. but we just had 20 attacking labour 20 minutes attacking the labour party u—turn party at a screeching u—turn from streeting on, on on the from wes streeting on, on on the trans debate, they had a screeching u—turn on the pride we should all show to the union flag the labour party has. that's absolutely offensive and that's look, i mean, i can i can show you pictures of labour conferences going back 50 years. they've got the union flag in them, it's on the party them, and it's on the party membership labour's membership card to say labour's not it's ludicrous. membership card to say labour's notthe it's ludicrous. membership card to say labour's notthe on it's ludicrous. membership card to say labour's notthe on the, 's ludicrous. membership card to say labour's notthe on the, on udicrous. membership card to say labour's notthe on the, on on crous. membership card to say labour's notthe on the, on on the s. membership card to say labour's notthe on the, on on the civic on the on the, on on the civic issue, where's has not done a u—turn policy of shadow u—turn on his policy of shadow health secretary streeting, health secretary wes streeting, who years, who i've known for 20 odd years, 25 years president of 25 years was the president of the nus, the national union of students, which is a very different kettle of fish to being labour mp. you've got being a labour mp. you've got different pressures different pressure, pressures on you, said that you, etc. and he has said that the posters and he wasn't in charge stonewall. worked
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charge of stonewall. he worked for stonewall and he thinks that their the phrase over their use of the phrase get over it people are it for saying some people are trans, it a was was trans, get over it was a was was a silly blunt poster. >> well, you know, you've got labour refusing to labour mps now just refusing to accept this. you accept the result of this. you know nadia, she doesn't. >> i mean, again, she's not from my of the party. and often my wing of the party. and often i disagree whitmore i disagree with andy whitmore what she says. >> i told that labour is >> i told you that labour is fragmented it isn't fragmented and it isn't fragmented and it isn't fragmented at all. fragmented on it at all. >> united because we all >> it's united because we all come from different traditions. i know, there's i mean, you know, there's different positions within all parties, especially the tories. what has is what nadia whitmore has said is that yesterday thoughts were that yesterday her thoughts were with and we that yesterday her thoughts were with remember and we that yesterday her thoughts were with remember that and we that yesterday her thoughts were with remember that the and we that yesterday her thoughts were with remember that the trans we must remember that the trans community unduly from community suffer unduly from hate suicide hate crime, from suicide and from health issues. but from mental health issues. but that we that doesn't mean that we shouldn't cass report. shouldn't back the cass report. >> your information >> i don't your your information about community about the trans community suffering more than other communities the statistics communities or the statistics show well, let's compare show that. well, let's compare the to women. the trans community to women. women more the trans community. >> as far as streeting is >> as far as wes streeting is concerned. i think he still stuck student activist stuck in his student activist days. >> not at all. >> not at all. >> he look, he this is the >> he is. look, he this is the same who years ago same man who a few years ago apologised sending these apologised for sending these violent, tweets . as violent, abusive tweets. as a student activist, you
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student activist, do you remember i remember remember that? i remember those, i still stuck in his student. >> if wes wasn't affected, the tories wouldn't be to tories wouldn't be trying to come for because they know come for him because they know he's our most effective spokespeople. >> well, just done >> well, he's just done a massive u—turn and said that, you over you know, we need to get over the thought that the fact that he thought that a trans is woman. trans woman 15 a woman. >> trans woman is a woman. >> i just trans woman is a woman. >> ijust just trans woman is a woman. >> i just just can't help but >> i just i just can't help but feel, you know, you've the feel, you know, you've got the likes cooper out there likes of yvette cooper out there saying, look, i really hope likes of yvette cooper out there sayirthis look, i really hope likes of yvette cooper out there sayirthis is look, i really hope likes of yvette cooper out there sayirthis is locis i really hope likes of yvette cooper out there sayirthis is locis good.ly hope likes of yvette cooper out there sayirthis is locis good. and, )e now this is this is good. and, you facts are really put you know, facts are really put forward don't remember forward for i don't remember yvette cooper really speaking forward for i don't remember yve'aboutiper really speaking forward for i don't remember yve'aboutiper kind' speaking forward for i don't remember yve'aboutiper kind' sjstuffig out about this kind of stuff before. it's they're hiding before. it's like they're hiding behind now. behind this report now. >> now realise that >> well, they now realise that this won't really up this report won't really back up some sort so—called some of their sort of so—called narrative biological narrative towards biological women make over 50% of women who make up over 50% of the and they realise the population, and they realise now garner our now they need to garner our support starmer support because keir starmer will a dead of a will not have a dead cert of a win, even he probably win, even though he probably will how? well good will win. but how? well good that will be. but i just think that, it's time for that, you know, it's time for people telling the people to start telling the truth telling these people. truth and telling these people. look, trans woman a look, a trans woman is a biological is biological man. a woman is a woman, a biological woman as a woman, a biological woman as a woman and for anybody to say anything different, i think there's somebody who's there's a real somebody who's a leader a party. and you know
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leader of a party. and you know what? somebody representing what? somebody is representing a political what? somebody is representing a politicaiknow nana, i think >> you know what nana, i think i think are trying finally think labour are trying finally to mainstream and say, to become mainstream and say, you most is you know, what most people is agree with what you just said. >> of course, it's quite straightforward to be nudged along here, matthew. straightforward to be nudged along really here, matthew. straightforward to be nudged along really hade, matthew. straightforward to be nudged along really hade, i\be thew. straightforward to be nudged along really hade, i\be nice they've really had to be nice along the way. they've really had to be nice alo look,e way. they've really had to be nice alo look, iway. they've really had to be nice alo look, i think i think we must >> look, i think i think we must also forget it's a in this also forget it's a site in this this cast report is about this the cast report is about services under eighteens. services for under eighteens. there are people who transition and be shown support and they should be shown support and they should be shown support and what and given rights, which is what has 25 years under, has happened for 25 years under, under really under both parties were really crying out about tavistock crying out about the tavistock clinic. of any clinic. not enough mps of any party were crying out about the tavistock clinic. >> w- a there? the >> didn't labour back there? the snp, with their gender snp, as well with their gender recognition well? recognition reform bill as well? i labour absolutely clear. >> it does not believe in itself. uk labour doesn't believe in gender believe in, in, in in gender self and that is very self id and that is the very clear policy. people backed by keir. >> people can make own >> people can make their own minds up, they? as to minds up, can't they? as to whether children, whether or not children, vulnerable children . the cast vulnerable children. the cast report may remind report again, may i remind everybody identify that everybody did identify that neurodiverse children, often with going on with other situations going on like autism and other different things as well, had essentially
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been pushed in a direction people can make their own minds up as to whether or not a labour government have done government would have done anything matthew government would have done anythi|they matthew government would have done anythi|they have itthew government would have done anythi|they have done, no thinks they would have done, no doubt. wes streeting himself would that would vehemently say that he would have done. i'm not so sure. up, miss the sure. coming up, don't miss the extraordinary that a extraordinary moment that a hamas actually told hamas leader is actually told that children and that his children and grandchildren killed grandchildren have been killed in reaction? grandchildren have been killed inyou've reaction? grandchildren have been killed inyou've not reaction? grandchildren have been killed inyou've not seen reaction? grandchildren have been killed inyou've not seen realready, if you've not seen it already, perhaps explain some of the senseless evil that took place in october the 7th, but next rishi sunak celebrate nhs waiting for the waiting list dropping for the fifth month in a row despite missing his own targets that he set last year. but with junior doctors pledging to continue striking until september , will striking until september, will they be to blame now if the waiting lists start to bulge again? former environment secretary ranil jayawardena, he takes striking doctors to task and that's
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next. it's patrick christys tonight. and i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages coming your way. very very soon. but first rishi sunak was today celebrating a fall in nhs waiting list for the fifth month in a row. with 7.5 million treatments waiting to be carried out at the end of february . that out at the end of february. that is down from their peak of 7.8 million in september last year. what this is, this is good, isn't it? things moving in the right direction despite the list falling by 36,100 from january to february, it is emerging that
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exactly 36,100 people waiting for an appointment in the community were not included in the data. are casting doubt on the data. are casting doubt on the government's claims to be making progress on waiting lists. well look. speaking to gb news today, labour's shadow health secretary wes streeting, he celebrating. i don't he wasn't celebrating. i don't know why rishi sunak's doing victory. >> lap. waiting lists are higher than they were when he became prime minister. he's promised to cut nhs waiting lists and you also at the performance also look at the performance standards on things like a&e , standards on things like a&e, ambulance response times. they are shockingly bad to the extent that people can no longer be certain that whether they dial 999 with suspected heart attack or stroke or walk into a&e, that they're going to be seen on time and yeah, right. >> okay, fine. but in a sense , >> okay, fine. but in a sense, they've dropped for five months in a row. and the government's analysis also shows that how junior doctors in england not walked out in february, 430,000
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extra patients could have been treated. and with gps now also threatening to go on strike hour long queues for appointments outside gp surgeries like this one in south london today. outside gp surgeries like this one in south london today . well, one in south london today. well, they could become the norm, couldn't they? so with more strikes on the cards for later this year, will striking doctors be to blame if nhs waiting lists rise again? i'm joined by rise again? i'm joined now by former environment secretary and tory mp ranil jayawardena. ranil, very much . ranil, thank you very much. there is a case to say you're fudging the numbers a little bit by including amount of by not including the amount of people for an people waiting for an appointment the community. appointment in the community. >> mean, let's with >> yeah, i mean, let's deal with that head on. >> i never like it when the bafis >> i never like it when the basis of stats change, but there is a good story underneath this, which is that, you know, when junior doctors have not been striking. >> i remember looking at some data late last year when they weren't striking. we are getting the numbers down, and it is absolutely crucial that we all hold junior doctors to account,
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because even the nhs own medical director has said that it's the industrial action that's had a significant impact. and the idea that a 35% pay rise is affordable is just not true. any of your viewers know that is not true, and you know, that's based on, a campaign that has tried to mislead people, i'm sorry to say, into thinking that all junior doctors earn, you know, £32,000 a year when actually many earn as much as £92,000 a year and have a very generous pension. so we are putting money into the nhs , there's more money into the nhs, there's more money going in than ever before. 3 billion every week is going into the nhs. well, yes. and there's no shortage of money. but now it's no shortage of money. but now wsfime no shortage of money. but now it's time for the. >> i'm going to come doctors to think carefully. i'll focus in on the junior doctors and quite possibly gps as well very soon. but i've got to ask, are you being outflanked by wes streeting labour party streeting in the labour party here? quoted on here? he was quoted earlier on today saying if he could today as saying that if he could use private sector entirely
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use the private sector entirely to backlog , he to clear the nhs backlog, he would. i mean, he can say that because he wears a red rosette, you it, can you? you can't say it, can you? >> i'm delighted , to say >> well, i'm delighted, to say that i think is a is a great guy , and i'm delighted that the labour party has caught up with conservative policy, conservative policy, conservative doctrine that we should, focus on the should, of course, focus on the patient. it shouldn't be around who is necessarily delivering the service. it should be around the service. it should be around the best outcomes for the patient . and know my neck patient. and i know in my neck of woods, not only have we of the woods, not only have we got two new hospitals coming in the nhs, but our gps do refer people to local private hospitals where that means a quicker or better result. and that's a good thing . that's a good thing. >> okay. yeah. let's come on to the junior doctors now , a lot of the junior doctors now, a lot of people have a huge amount of sympathy for them for the obvious reason. right? you know, these training to obvious reason. right? you know, theselives. training to obvious reason. right? you know, theselives. and, training to obvious reason. right? you know, theselives. and, youining to obvious reason. right? you know, theselives. and, you know,o save lives. and, you know, there's facto there's this kind of de facto idea, it, that idea, i think, isn't it, that these all very, very these are all very, very good people who are unfairly treated? i wonder you know, five i do wonder now, you know, five months a row of waiting lists months in a row of waiting lists falling, that falling, let's say that continues. to continues. there's no reason to expect for the next
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expect it won't for the next couple and they couple of months. and then they time time for the time a strike in time for the next election, which, by the way, they are saying that they might do. you know, i just wonder whether or not it is them to blame, really, if those waiting lists start up and waiting lists start going up and if does look political. >> yeah, well, i mean, as i said a moment ago, the national medical director , of the nhs. medical director, of the nhs. >> so this is an official this is not a politician, he has said, sir stephen has said that the industrial action has had a significant impact on the recovery of the nhs services. and you're right to talk about not only junior doctors, but gps too, on junior doctors , it's too, on junior doctors, it's absolutely crucial, that they , absolutely crucial, that they, they look after patients. that's what they did sign up to do. i do believe that, but unfortunately, i think there are a small group of, dare i say, corbynistas still in, parts of the junior bma, who are trying
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to push a political argument. and it's interesting to see they've accepted a deal from the snp on a very similar basis to what the uk government has said for england , and yet, because for england, and yet, because we're a conservative government these corbynistas have said no, so one rule with the scottish scottish nationalists , another scottish nationalists, another rule because we're conservatives and you're also right to just highlight that there's a risk of a gp strike, over the summer, which again, seems very targeted and timed ahead of an election, which is very unfortunate, actually . i think gp's do a actually. i think gp's do a great job, and you know, it's just important that we make sure that there are appointments, for patients to be able to see them when they want , where they want, when they want, where they want, and a strike isn't going to help with that . with that. >> yeah. okay. all right. and, you to say there that , you you seem to say there that, you know, if there's a strike in the summer, that would convenient summer, that would be convenient timing election. are we timing with an election. are we getting summer election? well getting a summer election? well well, they, was actually well, they, i was actually
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inferring that on the basis of this november election, a strike over the summer would be very unfortunate ahead of it. >> look, i, i, as i said before, on— >> look, i, i, as i said before, on your show, patrick, i'm delighted. i'd be delighted to take my to case people in my constituency, whenever the election is called, you know, we've got now over 2000 doctors, over 5000, 5000 nurses in our local hospitals. we've got a good record on this and other things. so bring it on. i say. >> all right, okay, but cancel my summer holiday. ronald, thank you very much. you take care. i'll see you in a bit. all the best. that's right. i warn you, there is the former environment secretary. right. and a spokesperson the spokesperson said this. the prime minister cannot continue to doctors for rising to blame doctors for rising waiting , when in reality waiting lists, when in reality they have been consistently increasing whilst successive conservative governments have been all comes been in power. this all comes down to long term underinvestment in the nhs and an undervaluing of staff which has crippled our workforce. the
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government pay government must get credible pay offers table to end all offers on the table to end all disputes give workforce disputes and give our workforce the and retention the recruitment and retention boost desperately needs boost it desperately needs to bnng boost it desperately needs to bring figures down. right. bring those figures down. right. there we go. coming up donald there we go. coming up is donald trump, the people's president. the former commander in chief has staff laughing as he puts in a generous food for order voters in atlanta. you don't want to miss that. video is full order is actually astonishing. it's like used to be like me after a night out. but next in my press pack, tonight's and will pack, tonight's panel and i will bnng pack, tonight's panel and i will bring of bring you the very first of tomorrow's front tomorrow's newspaper front pages. liveliest paper pages. it's the liveliest paper of you'll get anywhere on of you you'll get anywhere on
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. it's time for the very first of your front pages. let's do it . here's first of your front pages. let's do it. here's the first of your front pages. let's do it . here's the metro. first of your front pages. let's do it. here's the metro. jk rowling and the goblet of ire. no forgiveness, she says, for the star's trans stance. she's not going to forgive harry potter actors who turned their back on her over her stance on
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the trans issue. let's go to the l, the trans issue. let's go to the i, starmer . labour will hike uk i, starmer. labour will hike uk defence spending amid threat from china and russia. interesting labour leader intends to boost military spending to 2.5% of gdp if he wins power . spending to 2.5% of gdp if he wins power. he reveals that in an interview with the i that i think will be quite a popular move, the daily mail, starmer uk nuclear deterrent is safe in my handsin nuclear deterrent is safe in my hands in a landmark article for the mail, sir keir vows unshakeable to commitment to trident and to build a new generation of subs here. okay, let's go now to the times fears of children's safety as whatsapp cuts minimum age to 13. all right. consultants accused of covering up fatal flaws. whistleblowers lost their jobs, apparently after raising concerns. a group of senior hospital consultants suppressed warnings about patient safety years before police were called to investigate. 40 deaths, apparently . so let's go to the apparently. so let's go to the guardian now, labour warned over loss of urban seats in the
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election, alienating over gaza and climate policy could cost the party dozens of constituencies. it is, of course, there well position on gaza potentially costing them votes to independent candidates. i tell you what is fascinating here. if you just look at the composition of tomorrow's front pages, you've the all pages, you've got the eye. all right. know, lean to right. you know, does lean to the done a sit the left. they've done a sit down starmer appears back down with starmer appears back in daily in defence spending. the daily mail certainly to mail certainly not leaning to the saying nuclear the left, saying uk nuclear deterrent starmer's deterrent is safe in starmer's hands. what hands. or at least that's what he's saying. guardian has he's saying. the guardian has been critical, been consistently critical, really, for really, of starmer. now for a penod really, of starmer. now for a period of months. it's quite a fascinating way to look at all of that. i'm just going to go to my panel now. of course, i've got wonderful nana akua. got the wonderful nana akua. we've gale matthew we've got amber gale and matthew laza , matthew, will start with laza, matthew, i will start with you actually , starmer you on this actually, starmer saying the uk nuclear deterrent is in his hands and is is safe in his hands and is going to hike uk defence spending to the 2.5. i mean, spending up to the 2.5. i mean, that really, i mean rishi sunak has lost at least one defence secretary and an armed forces for minister amongst other
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reasons, but not doing this. >> absolutely . and i think it's >> absolutely. and i think it's a sign of labour's confidence. it's effectively forgive the military metaphor. got his tanks on the tories lawn on defence. traditionally, defence has been an area where the public and i think, you know, wrongly because labour's actually got a good record on defence but have had concerns and particularly in the 80s when i was growing up, people were worried about labour's stance . but now people were worried about labour'is stance . but now people were worried about labour'is out stance . but now people were worried about labour'is out there ance . but now people were worried about labour'is out there on e . but now people were worried about labour'is out there on the3ut now people were worried about labour'is out there on the front)w labour is out there on the front foot shows it's working. foot and it shows it's working. in poll labour more in a recent poll labour was more trusted tories on defence. >> yeah, well yeah i mean i'll come to this. starmer come to you on this. starmer says is the number one says defence is the number one issue his government. issue for his government. that's quite bold , isn't it? do quite bold, isn't it? do you believe no. believe that. no. >> i mean again, i said >> i mean look, again, as i said earlier, mean , this is, a very earlier, i mean, this is, a very fringe element, labour party, which is trying to mainstream fringe element, labour party, whichto trying to mainstream fringe element, labour party, whichto align| to mainstream fringe element, labour party, whichto align itself ainstream fringe element, labour party, whichto align itself withream fringe element, labour party, whichto align itself with the] itself to align itself with the issues that actually matter to the british public and defence. yes is one of them is a big issue for the country and, but as far as being the nuclear deterrent , being safe in his deterrent, being safe in his hands while he still got the rabid left in his party. i mean,
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let's be honest, what's stopping the hard left? the hard, hard left of the labour party taking over from a possible prime minister starmer in two years time into his government? nothing. it's entirely possible. and they would scrap tackle nonsense. i mean, come on, come nonsense. i mean, come on, come on. >> on. >> i mean the tories. the tories have left it wide open for a labour leader again , it's bad politics. >> but how how will he fund it? that's the that's the question. how? he's not telling how he how? he's not telling us how he would more money into would fund more money into defence. already spent of defence. we already spent one of the defence budgets in the biggest defence budgets in the biggest defence budgets in the world. >> maybe you'll take well, you're having green defence ministers take you're having green defence mout:ers take you're having green defence mout of; take you're having green defence mout of the take you're having green defence m out of the tax take status. >> yeah. well, again a lot of things again. >> again. >> again. >> yeah. i mean, do you trust labour the nuclear button? labour with the nuclear button? nana nana. >> that'd be silly. i don't and i think the comments made there, they could u—turn as well. they've done literally everything they've so far come up with the green 28 billion on the green stuff. they've u—turned streeting u—turning u—turned wes streeting u—turning on women . on his stance on women. suddenly, now biological women and trans women are not the same
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thing. keir starmer did the same thing. keir starmer did the same thing. now they're saying that they're going to spend 2.5. i don't think that's enough. they're going to spend 2.5. i dorbe think that's enough. they're going to spend 2.5. i dorbe thiratthat's enough. they're going to spend 2.5. i dorbe thirat least enough. they're going to spend 2.5. i dorbe thirat least threejh. i'd be looking at least three anyway. think these anyway. and i think these are things expect our things that we expect our governments to anyway. things that we expect our gov butnents to anyway. things that we expect our gov but again, 0 anyway. things that we expect our gov but again, we anyway. things that we expect our gov but again, we do nyway. things that we expect our gov but again, we do we ay. things that we expect our govbut again, we do we do things that we expect our gov but again, we do we do expect >> but again, we do we do expect them to do it anyway. absolutely. but the fact is they haven't absolutely. and you know, again, i'll just say know, it is again, i'll just say this again, it's terrible politics a conservative politics that a conservative government allow a leader government would allow a leader of the labour party to, as matthew did rightly say , park matthew did rightly say, park his tanks on their lawn. >> this before, >> we've had this before, patrick. mean, we had ed patrick. i mean, we had ed miliband back the day who miliband back in the day who claimed, i tough enough? claimed, am i tough enough? hell yeah. stand up to. yeah. >> but on on defence, you know, nato nato of the great nato is nato is one of the great achievements of the post—war labour alongside the nhs. >> all right. let me was it on to guardian? on to to the guardian? i'm going on to the front the guardian now, their front page, warned over page, because labour warned over loss seats election. loss of urban seats in election. now is now this is a this is a fascinating story. so labour risks losing in a number of its target seats as previously loyal progressive voters turn away from the party. senior party
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figures and polling experts have warned. experts say keir starmer's party could struggle to win as many as a dozen of its main targets , and could even main targets, and could even lose two of the seats it currently holds as a result of alienating some muslims and younger progressive voters angered by its stance on gaza and the climate crisis, i suppose aman, this is hope for the conservatives, is it? >> well, i mean, look at it this way. the labour party for the last few years has been pretending to be everything to everyone, and then suddenly finding as standing for finding itself as standing for nothing. that's exactly why nothing. and that's exactly why you've the likes of george you've got the likes of george galloway now chomping at the bits targeting labour in big, traditionally labour seats . but traditionally labour seats. but that's what happens when you don't actually stand for anything but you pretend to be everything to everyone. >> well go on, matthew. i mean, this pretty damning. this is pretty damning. >> mean, it's i've read >> yeah, i mean, it's i've read the piece it's, it's the piece and it's, it's a slightly slightly slightly it's a slightly odd piece various piece that conflates various different factors. there is one seat which is bristol, different factors. there is one seat which is bristol , the new seat which is bristol, the new seat which is bristol, the new seat of bristol central where
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the greens are targeting labour. it's a very diverse seat and it's absolutely of kind of it's absolutely full of kind of student liberal voters , student and liberal voters, where issues might a where those issues might make a difference then difference there. and then obviously, seen issue difference there. and then obviotthe seen issue difference there. and then obviotthe muslim sen issue difference there. and then obviotthe muslim vote, issue difference there. and then obviotthe muslim vote, butisue difference there. and then obviotthe muslim vote, but we'll about the muslim vote, but we'll keep thing. and keep doing the right thing. and if means that 1 if it means that 1 or 2 dibernardo isn't, it is. yeah, absolutely. and that is a dangen absolutely. and that is a danger. yeah. it's not in a danger. yeah. but it's not in a dozen seat. dozen seats. it's in one seat. and there's an issue about and then there's an issue about whether be able to whether labour will be able to take the seat that caroline lucas is vacating the greens lucas is vacating for the greens in now, going play clip >> now, i'm going to play a clip now i'm to get you to now and i'm going to get you to react the back it. so if react off the back of it. so if you're not one of the shameful mob marching them in mob out marching for them in london every single saturday, you realised that you have probably realised that hamas are ruthless, murderous lunatics case you lunatics. okay, but in case you needed confirmation here is the chilling moment that their chief, ismail haniyeh , reacts to chief, ismail haniyeh, reacts to the news that three of his sons and three grandchildren, i believe as well, have been killed by an idf airstrike. so just watch this and just see what you make of it, okay?
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camilla tominey. >> now . >> now. >> now. >> allah. allah yeah. >> allah. allah yeah. >> okay. so he was just told in that clip that you saw there that clip that you saw there that three of his kids who were adults , right. and some adults, right. and some grandchildren had just been killed and he just didn't bat an eyelid, said, you know, hopefully they're with god now and cracked on with what looked like a hospital visit. i mean, nana, that bloke is clearly a lunatic psychopath, isn't he? and when people are out there going, about the deaths of going, what about the deaths of all the palestinian babies, that guy them had just guy who's leading them had just found out about the deaths of his grandkids, and his own kids and grandkids, and he didn't care. >> well, you know, this is what he apparently the he apparently told the broadcasters jazeera. he broadcasters at al jazeera. he said, i am grateful god for said, i am grateful to god for the has me in the honour he has given me in the honour he has given me in the three of my the deaths of three of my children and a few of my grandchildren. so that's the grandchildren. so if that's the mindset there, i think he obviously had to look strong in the this. but we did the face of this. but we did hear reports some of the hear reports of some of the
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hamas murderers who went into israel at the beginning. on october heard of october the 7th, we heard of some of them contacting their their families or when their families they families heard that they were dead. clips and dead. we saw some clips and i can't verify they're all true. but mothers were celebrating can't verify they're all true. but fact mothers were celebrating can't verify they're all true. but fact that1ers were celebrating can't verify they're all true. but fact that their/ere celebrating can't verify they're all true. but fact that their kids:elebrating can't verify they're all true. but fact that their kids were �*ating the fact that their kids were dead, but they had actually died , perished on the october 7th trying to kill. >> praised his sons for not running from gaza as he did. by the way , from israeli forces in the way, from israeli forces in qatar, which is the greatest irony of all. oh, just i do just think when people are out on the streets and they are talking about this devastating loss of life, you know, there's a guy there all of this on there who sparked all of this on october the 7th who has just found out that probably found out that news, probably the horrific that any the most horrific news that any parent, i would imagine could possibly who doesn't parent, i would imagine could possilto who doesn't parent, i would imagine could possilto bat who doesn't parent, i would imagine could possilto bat an who doesn't parent, i would imagine could possilto bat an eyeliddoesn't parent, i would imagine could possilto bat an eyelid and n't parent, i would imagine could possilto bat an eyelid and is seem to bat an eyelid and is grateful for their deaths. and, you going grateful for their deaths. and, you and going grateful for their deaths. and, you and marching going grateful for their deaths. and, you and marching people1g grateful for their deaths. and, you and marching people in out and marching for people in that particular area? oh, no. look, coming up, i'll show you how trump proved that he how donald trump proved that he is people's president. and i is the people's president. and i will bring of will bring you more of tomorrow's newspaper pages tomorrow's newspaper front pages hot this is hot off the press. this is patrick christys tonight
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gb news. welcome back. it's time for more of tomorrow's front pages. now, let's do it . of tomorrow's front pages. now, let's do it. daily of tomorrow's front pages. now, let's do it . daily express here let's do it. daily express here for you. daily express bring to an end the triple lock pension injustice for millions . injustice for millions. campaigners call for a review as 8 million pensioners miss out on full payments. so this is millions of pensioners being shortchanged by dishonest state pension payouts, apparently. let's go to the sun. good riddance . grief. long time riddance. grief. long time double murder accuser caitlyn jenner says good riddance to of course , oj simpson, who has died course, oj simpson, who has died today at the age of 76 after a battle with cancer. we go to they also have a story, by the way, sorry, on the front of the sun. now you see it in the top right hand corner. harry kane's three kids in car crash. three of england star harry kane's children reportedly rushed children were reportedly rushed to a horror car to hospital after a horror car crash. the daily telegraph
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border blame fake border force to blame for fake stamps earlier today. it was the chinese now as border force. anyway, royal mail accuses the government of not doing enough to stop counterfeits entering the warns iran we the uk. netanyahu warns iran we will anyone who attacks will harm anyone who attacks israel and the telegraph slightly late. uncharacteristically for them, i must say navy to hire recruits who can't swim. we covered that earlier, and the picture that famous picture of oj simpson with the gloves that didn't fit. let's go to the mirror. infamous oj. dead at 76. cancer claims quotes killer as ex pal caitlyn jenner says good riddance. those are all of your front pages. i am joined, of course, yet again by my panel gb news presenter nana akua founding chairman of global britain uk. almond mogul and former party adviser and former labour party adviser matthew as he matthew laza now try as he might, keir starmer just can't avoid questions about his under—fire deputy leader angela raynen under—fire deputy leader angela rayner. so tetchy interview earlier today, starmer refused to 100% backup. >> are you 100% confident that
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angela rayner has done nothing wrong here? >> i'm very confident, 100% confident. >> i'm very confident in angela. 3; i'm very confident in angela. that's 3; i'm very eenfident in angela. that's different to 100% >> that's different to 100% confident. >> look, don't try and play a game on this. i've been absolutely clear. angela has answered questions. answered all those questions. i have confidence have full confidence in her. i expressed that over and over again, i really think that again, but i really think that you be asking questions you should be asking questions about nhs . about the state of the nhs. >> nana he won't actually look at evidence himself . he's at the evidence himself. he's not 100% confident and he thinks we be asking questions we should be asking questions about other stuff. kiss of death for rayner now. well yeah. >> and i mean, didn't he do that? he started off being really good friends with jeremy corbyn next time was corbyn and the next time it was only with i know only friends with him. i know this the same thing this feels like the same thing the on weekend, the other week. on the weekend, he he's totally he was saying that he's totally confident her and confident about her and everything now he's everything feels like now he's wavering sort of wavering and sort of backtracking. he's going wavering and sort of bathrowking. he's going wavering and sort of bathrow her. he's going wavering and sort of bathrow her under he's going wavering and sort of bathrow her under thez's going wavering and sort of bathrow her under the bus.ying to throw her under the bus. that's think, not what do that's what i think, not what do you about this? you think about this? >> this is this is >> i mean, this is this is a good news for the conservative party, isn't it? >> em- elm-- party, isn't it? >> for it's good party, isn't it? >> forthe it's good party, isn't it? >> for the for it's good party, isn't it? >> for the for thes good party, isn't it? >> for the for the country. news for the for the country. let's honest. labour let's be honest. the labour party spent last three party has spent the last three days oh, well, you know
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party has spent the last three days you oh, well, you know party has spent the last three days you shouldn'tl, you know party has spent the last three days you shouldn't be ou know party has spent the last three days you shouldn't be holding, what? you shouldn't be holding, angela rayner same angela rayner to the same standards as been standards as she's been demanding in demanding of people in government the last two government for the last two years. i mean, you couldn't make it up. it's absolute backwards . it up. it's absolute backwards. >> oh, my god, no, i love it. >> it's our favourite word, this new thing. >> good stuff. i'm just remind us what that means. absolute nonsense. absolute nonsense. right >> okay. it is a great word. >> okay. it is a great word. >> it it is fantastic, matthew . >> it it is fantastic, matthew. yeah. i'll just i'm going to throw question. look, throw the same question. look, he's looking the evidence throw the same question. look, hokay? looking the evidence throw the same question. look, hokay? he'szing the evidence throw the same question. look, hokay? he's refusingre evidence throw the same question. look, hokay? he's refusing to. vidence throw the same question. look, hokay? he's refusing to. it'sence , okay? he's refusing to. it's wilful blindness. would say wilful blindness. some would say he's say he's 100% he's not going to say he's100% confident. doing the confident. and he's doing the old classic of, why old classic of, well, why aren't you about well, you asking about this? well, that's i'm choosing to that's because i'm choosing to ask about angela. ask you so care about angela. look, i've. >> em gm- >> i've stood next to labour leaders they've leaders while they've been interviewed and it's leaders while they've been intea iewed and it's leaders while they've been intea great and it's leaders while they've been intea great look. and it's leaders while they've been intea great look. i and it's leaders while they've been intea great look. i thinkd it's leaders while they've been intea great look. i think he :'s leaders while they've been intea great look. i think he was not a great look. i think he was getting tetchy there, as getting a bit tetchy there, as you say. yeah the reason he's not the evidence is not looked at the evidence is because people are because other people are independent greater independent authorities, greater manchester independent authorities, greater maerester independent authorities, greater maer mrzr >> mr mr >> mr mr >> greater manchester police and stockport council are both looking evidence and looking at the evidence and we'll see what happens. i think angela rayner should be held to
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the same standards as everybody else. she is absolutely confident advice she's confident that the advice she's got means that she's going to be exonerated. wait see exonerated. let's wait and see what investigation says in what the investigation says in the meantime. no, because the meantime. no, no, because the meantime. no, no, because the people are looking the other people are looking into because the independent authorities are looking into it. >> just say, >> why doesn't he just say, i want 100% back, angela rayner? >> because sometimes as a politician, you get annoyed with journalists trying to put words into mouth, that's what into your mouth, and that's what was happening there. he was 99, and sides the and i've done both sides of the thing. know what it's like. >> all right. look, rayner >> all right. now look, rayner has refused to has repeatedly refused to pubush has repeatedly refused to publish this publish tax advice amid this frenzy that she frenzy of accusations that she lied sale of a former lied about the sale of a former council 2015 to avoid council house in 2015 to avoid paying council house in 2015 to avoid paying gains tax . there paying capital gains tax. there is, an electoral roll is, of course, an electoral roll issue which people issue as well, which more people i appear to be ignoring, i think, appear to be ignoring, which be which actually could be the thing would thing if it's true, that would bnng thing if it's true, that would bring he's hard at bring her down. now he's hard at work on the campaign trail ahead of election in november, of the us election in november, but donald trump time for but donald trump made time for an at the an impromptu stop at the american fast food restaurant chick fil a in atlanta yesterday, as the former us president was feeling particularly generous . particularly generous. >> 30 milkshakes and also some
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chicken . i will take care of the chicken. i will take care of the customers . this business is good. >> he's making a lot of money. >> he's making a lot of money. >> yes, you get rich right ? >> yes, you get rich right? thanks. thanks very much . thanks. thanks very much. >> but will his milkshakes bring all the voters to the yard? nana. >> oh, yeah. very good, very kyrees . now, listen, i think kyrees. now, listen, i think that he will. i think the only trouble he has, and i don't think that they really plan to keep joe biden. democrats i think they're going to get rid of joe biden at the last minute. theni of joe biden at the last minute. then i think they're going to try and put in michelle obama. and michelle obama could and i think michelle obama could cause little bit of cause trump a little bit of a problem because everyone soon problem because everyone as soon as obama, a lot of the as you say obama, a lot of the republicans who sort republicans who aren't as sort of trump well of fixed on trump may well follow. so not sure whether follow. so i'm not sure whether his what do you reckon? >> well, i mean, look , he's the >> well, i mean, look, he's the people's president. >> has been. it's very >> he always has been. it's very simple, really. people have seen what joe biden has done to the us and knocking on the rest of the for the last four the world for the last four years. think people fluked
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years. i think people got fluked in into voting for biden in the last election, and they will see sense again. he's flying in illegal immigrants who turn into voters, for goodness sake. people see that on the streets . people see that on the streets. >> he's campaigning to get the support the ukraine needs, support of the ukraine needs, which being held up donald which is being held up by donald trump britain . we should trump here in britain. we should be very, very afraid about a second trump presidency. >> sorry, joe biden hates us. >> sorry, joe biden hates us. >> loves joe biden, >> he loves joe biden, really doesn't like us. >> look, look, look, on a cultural level, he's a bit of a professional irishman, but but on the things that we want, on the key things that we want, look even even boris, look, even boris, even boris, even , boris, david cameron even boris, boris, david cameron have all been over there begging the republicans to, to do what they need to be done on ukraine. >> listen , joe biden isn't even >> listen, joe biden isn't even with it. listen, he's not even there. >> i think you're right about the candidate. would >> i think you're right about thegreatidate. would >> i think you're right about thegreat ifate. would >> i think you're right about thegreat if he's would >> i think you're right about thegreat if he's replaced. /ould >> i think you're right about thegreat if he's replaced. he's be great if he's replaced. he's done he's his job. done his he's done his job. >> the us, the world, the world needs donald trump back. >> go, michelle okay. >> go, michelle okay. >> oh yeah mean , the >> oh well yeah i mean, the michelle thing well michelle obama thing is, well that's true , okay, that's a huge, if true, okay, now it's time for to reveal today's greatest britain union
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jackass nana your greatest britain. >> my greatest britain has got to be the black cabbies, especially around london. boom shout out to the black cabbie. you picked me up today after my car had been impounded by an evil in london. evil council in london. >> probably a labour council. labour council? >> can't say council shall be remain unnamed , but they took my remain unnamed, but they took my car and it's annoying because it's only like a little three one. >> one. >> and actually the money i had to to get it was more than to pay to get it was more than the car's worth. hahaha. >> gosh. oh well. okay >> really? gosh. oh well. okay black cabbies, we love them, right? black cabbies, we love them, rigioh it's got to be jk >> oh man, it's got to be jk rowling. she rowling. as boris said, she speaks nation. she speaks for the nation. she speaks for the nation. she speaks . and you know what? speaks sense. and you know what? we need more of that. so yes, she's my greatest jk rowling i mean saying as well she's not going to forgive the harry potter actors . potter actors. >> exactly. from what i've read anyway, for their vote backwards. yeah. for the for that, for that. exactly that, go on there, matthew. who's your greatest? britain, please. >> mine's labour's shadow transport secretary. lew. hey who's concrete
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who's come up with a concrete plan out britain's bus plan to sort out britain's bus routes? across routes? keep links across the country. communities country. the communities have been tories . and the been cut by the tories. and the media often ignores buses because, frankly, they don't get on them outside london. and it's good to see labour coming out with buses. good to see labour coming out witithe buses. good to see labour coming out witithe plight buses. good to see labour coming out witithe plight of buses. good to see labour coming out witithe plight of the buses. good to see labour coming out witithe plight of the ruralrses. good to see labour coming out witithe plight of the rural bus >> the plight of the rural bus community is actually genuinely a thing because a lot of elderly people, you know, tend to live, in rural communities as well. they need to get around. it's a lifeline. so, yeah, no fair play. but today's greatest britain are the black cabbies. yes yeah. >> i thought you were going >> no. i thought you were going to win with jc. >> well, the problem the only problem jk rowling is that >> well, the problem the only probleactually,( rowling is that >> well, the problem the only probleactually, she's.ing is that >> well, the problem the only probleactually, she's been; that >> well, the problem the only probleactually, she's been she's we've actually, she's been she's been five been great britain about five times last ten days. so times in the last ten days. so there go. right is your there we go. right who is your union? jack nana, okay. union? jack carson. nana, okay. so union jackass is so my new union jackass is michelle for using michelle donelan for using £34,000 taxpayers money to £34,000 of taxpayers money to cover her libel costs after she accused an academic for supporting or sympathising with hamas. so she gave up having to pay up hamas. so she gave up having to pay up for that . pay up for that. >> okay, go on, man. but we paid for it. >> it's got to be david smith. the then chief executive, who sent email celebrating the
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sent an email celebrating the conviction mishra, conviction of seema mishra, a subpostmaster jailed subpostmaster wrongfully jailed in this dreadful horizontal honzon in this dreadful horizontal horizon scandal. >> so this guy, this guy, celebrated the conviction of someone is. now, someone who i think is. now, what class is being wrongfully convicted, exactly ? yeah. convicted, exactly? yeah. >> it's corporate. corporate corruption. >> she was pregnant at the time, wasn't she? yeah, exactly. >> it's an abomination. >> it's an abomination. >> yeah. horrible. horrible that guy matthew, who's your. >> mine's rishi sunak for >> and mine's rishi sunak for trying small trying to boast about the small monthly waiting lists monthly fall in waiting lists wherein number of wherein the total number of people treatment has people waiting for treatment has gone since he made his gone up since he made his pledge. >> yeah, there is quite an interesting case. i mean, i covered it earlier on, i think, interesting case. i mean, i cov yeah. the doctor strikes. there the other side it, there was the other side of it, isn't sorted it >> they could have sorted it well the 35% more. well by paying the 35% more. >> haven't time >> anyway. we haven't got time to into of that. today's
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to get into all of that. today's today's union jackass is david slay. again. slay. there it is again. >> nothing lazo . again, nothing. >> what a surprise. but it keeps you back , matthew, you coming back, matthew, because, one week you'll because, oh, one week you'll win. can i just say a win. look, can i just say a massive thank you to my wonderful panel? thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everybody who's been listening been watching and listening at home. you, if home. can i just urge you, if you're on catch up or you're watching on catch up or if going go on if you are going to go on youtube see, especially have youtube and see, especially have a the of the hours. a look at the tops of the hours. i big questions to be i think big questions to be asked over labour's asked now over labour's handling, over the whole trans issue a head issue that has come to a head yesterday that cash report, yesterday with that cash report, would labour look would you trust labour to look after this country? after children in this country? also aid issue as also the foreign aid issue as well. actually remarkably, well. now actually remarkably, being very being spent very, very much in britain, billion it, britain, £4 billion of it, a little more that being little bit more than that being spent here in britain. headliners next. they've headliners are up next. they've got of a lot to go out got a heck of a lot to go out here tomorrow's newspaper here in tomorrow's newspaper front we're doing it front page, that we're doing it in their own inimitable style. it's a great line—up on headliners. back headliners. i'll be back tomorrow and i've got tomorrow at 9 pm. and i've got a surprise store a little surprise in store for you well, sure that you as well, so make sure that you as well, so make sure that you tuned for all of that. you stay tuned for all of that. see you tomorrow nine.
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see you tomorrow at nine. a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, it will be a cloudy start tomorrow , but it should brighten tomorrow, but it should brighten up later on in the day. but for the far northwest we like to see fairly persistent rain, high pressure is starting to spread its influence into southern areas of uk , but further areas of the uk, but further north and west we'll see weather fronts through the next fronts push in through the next few and this evening much few days, and this evening much of be restricted of the rain will be restricted to the far north and west of scotland. also, parts of northwest england, cumbria will likely heavy bursts of likely see some heavy bursts of rain throughout this evening. elsewhere throughout the night, it should stay largely dry away from the coast and over the hills, but it's going to be a very cloudy and mild night. temperatures again double digits by a minimum far by for a minimum across the far north—east of scotland. it should be a fairly dry and bright start. perhaps some areas in midlands well, but by in the midlands as well, but by and it's going be and large it's going to be a fairly cloudy to the day.
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fairly cloudy start to the day. it will likely stay quite cloudy and of the day and wet for much of the day across parts of western scotland, england, scotland, north—west england, northern as well. northern ireland as well. but elsewhere brighten up elsewhere it should brighten up and will feel fairly warm once again sunshine . we could again in that sunshine. we could see temperatures as as see temperatures as high as 21 degrees on friday. that band of rain becomes a more weak feature, but it will sink into more northern areas of wales more northern areas of wales more widely across northern england, perhaps into the midlands later on in the day. and saturday. it and saturday. behind it, it turns much unsettled. some turns much more unsettled. some showery outbreaks of rain. it'll also turn considerably colder for those northwestern areas, but in the south it should remain largely dry and bright for the weekend . for the weekend. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> in a moment. headliners. but first the news at 11:00 on gb news. the top story . a post sub news. the top story. a post sub mistress who was wrongly jailed while she was pregnant, has refused to accept the apology of a post office executive who sent an email in 2010 saying her conviction was brilliant. david smith told the post office inquiry today that with hindsight , inquiry today that with hindsight, he understood the anger and upset as well as the substantial distress he'd caused to seema misra and her family , to seema misra and her family, saying he was sorry for the way his email had been perceived . his email had been perceived. mrs. misra was falsely accused
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of stealing £74,000 and even had to give birth wearing a probation tag . she said later probation tag. she said later i was eight weeks pregnant. they need to apologise to my youngest son. it was a terrible time . son. it was a terrible time. between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 subpostmasters and mistresses were prosecuted due to flawed horizon it software . a to flawed horizon it software. a moroccan asylum seeker on trial for the murder of a pensioner in hartlepool has told the police he was motivated by the conflict in gaza. 45 year old ahmed khalid denies murdering 70 year old terence karney, as well as the attempted murder of his housemate javid noori last october. he says he carried out the attacks as an act of revenge for israel's killing of children in palestine. he said he's also been accused of assaulting two female police officers who'd interviewed him after his arrest . the royal mail has said it's working to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation after an
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