mp5 are debating it right now, mp5 are debating it right now. yet another lord5 revolt couldn't stop it. but the big question is will a single flight ever take off to rwanda? ye5terday a riot police in brussels dramatically attempted bru55el5 dramatically attempted to close down the national con5ervati5m conference. they not only failed , but at 2 am, not only failed, but at 2 am, a judge 5pectacularly overturned and that ban will be live from the scene for all the latest on the scene for all the latest on the clampdown on free speech in brussels and also later on today, almost half a million welsh people have now signed a petition to scrap the country's punitive 20 mile an hour speed limits later in the show , we'll limits later in the show, we'll cross live to the welsh senate, where a ban is being debated to overturn that ruling and finally, patriots prepare to be massively excited because nottingham city council, that's my home city, has hoisted the nation's biggest saint. george's flag on the council house will be live from the market square,

talk to locals for their reaction and the local newspaper editor who's making sure that this goes ahead every year. doesn't that stir the soul? that's all coming up in your next hour ? welcome to the show. next hour? welcome to the show. it's an absolute pleasure to have your company. it's an absolute pleasure to have your company . doesn't that have your company. doesn't that saint george's flag stir your soul? well, it does if you're english, at any rate. and yet we see so few of them these days, don't we. that is nottingham market square will be live there in about half an hour's time. when that picture posted when that picture was posted this it was this morning, i thought it was a fake. normally we see pride flags, flags, black lives flags, trans flags, black lives matter flags , disability matter flags, disability awareness flags, you name it. nottingham hoists the flag to a cause. but this took me by surprise. wow. a saint george's flag in england, only six days away from saint george's day. has your town hoisted the saint george's flag or are they

missing in action? does it make you feel proud to be english? when you see that majestic flag flapping in that patriotic wind, get in touch all the usual ways, and there's a new way to do it as well. send your and as well. send your views and post your comments visiting post your comments by visiting gb news. com forward slash your say loads in the show. but first here's your headlines and it's tatiana sanchez. >> martin thank you. the top stories this hour. sir keir starmer has accused the prime minister of dodging questions over cutting the nhs or state pensions to cover the cost of scrapping national insurance. speaking during prime minister's questions, the labour leader criticised the conservative for what he called their obsession with wild, unfunded tax cuts. but rishi sunak fought back, telling the commons it's always the same with labour, with higher taxes and working people paying higher taxes and working people paying the price. the exchange continued with sir keir starmer pointing out that no politician

has put up taxes more times than the prime minister >> i was a lawyer long enough to know when someone's avoiding the question, so i'm going to give him another chance . will he now him another chance. will he now rule out cuts to the nhs, cuts the state pension or putting up taxes to pay for his unfunded £46 billion promise to scrap national insurance? which is it? we're >> we' re >> however, we're >> however, rishi sunak responded , saying he makes no responded, saying he makes no apology for wanting to end the unfairness he called of double taxation on work. the nhs is receiving record funding under this conservative government. >> pensioners have just received a £900 increase under this government. but if he wants to talk about tax, let's have a look at what labour's brand newly appointed tax adviser has to say . this newly appointed tax adviser has to say. this adviser this adviser thinks that supporting pensioners is a complete disgrace. mr speaker , he

disgrace. mr speaker, he believes their free tv licences are ridiculous . and if it wasn't are ridiculous. and if it wasn't bad enough, this adviser has called for increases in income tax in national insurance and vat. it all makes sense now. that's who the shadow chancellor has been copying and pasting from . from. >> in other news, the prime minister hailed today's inflation figures, saying they demonstrate his economic plan is working. figures show the rate of inflation has fallen to its lowest level in two and a half years, down to 3.2% in march. thatis years, down to 3.2% in march. that is compared to 3.4% the month before. economists say a dip in food prices is the main reason for the slowdown . we've reason for the slowdown. we've been speaking to people in market bosworth in leicestershire to hear their thoughts. >> it's better than it going the other way , that's for sure, but other way, that's for sure, but i don't think it's going to make a massive difference to the man in the street. a massive difference to the man in tno,;treet. a massive difference to the man in tno, i'eet. a massive difference to the man in tno, i haven't really noticed . >> no, i haven't really noticed. i'm, with my shopping. >> know exactly what i buy >> i know exactly what i buy every week, so i know what my

bills are every week, and at this point in time, i haven't seen them come down. >> it doesn't really make any difference . it is what it is. difference. it is what it is. >> people want more increase in wages. things have got to go up and i'm afraid they'll have to put up with it. >> downing street has ruled out making concessions on the government's flagship rwanda bill. if you're watching on television , here's a look inside television, here's a look inside the house of commons. currently, where mp5 are holding what could be the final debate on the deportation scheme . the deportation scheme. the legislation has proven highly controversial, being passed around parliament and the courts, though downing street is hoping to clear the final hurdle this week. however, labour insists the scheme is doomed to fail. it comes as reports in the times suggest the prime minister could use raf planes to take migrants to rwanda after the home office failed to find an airline that would charter the flights . the boss of the post

flights. the boss of the post office has been exonerated following an independent investigation into allegations of bullying. nick read has always rejected claims of misconduct. the firm says he has its full backing to lead the organisation, which continues to be under scrutiny over the honzon be under scrutiny over the horizon it scandal. hundreds of subpost masters were wrongly convicted of theft and fraud because of a failure in the it system . hugh grant has settled system. hugh grant has settled a legal case against the publisher of the sun over claims journalists used private investigators to tap his phone and burgle his house. the actor's lawsuit was one of those eligible to go to trial at the high court, but he's come to an agreement with news group newspapers. prince harry is among several other high profile figures also suing the newspaper group for alleged unlawful information gathering, which the publisher . paedophiles publisher denies. paedophiles convicted of serious sexual offences could lose parental rights over their children, a

proposed law change would stop offenders being able to decide where their children go to school, as well as important health and travel choices . only health and travel choices. only the most serious sexual offence rape a child under 13, would rape of a child under 13, would be covered under the new rule. however labour mp harriet harman says the rule could be extended to cover less serious sexual offences against children in the future . and the israeli prime future. and the israeli prime minister has told lord cameron that israel will make its own decisions about how to defend itself as global leaders plead for restraint against iran. the foreign secretary has been speaking with benjamin netanyahu following iranian missile and drone strikes at the weekend. he says more can and should be done to sanction tehran. however rishi sunak told israeli counterpart significant escalation is in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the middle east. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or

go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . martin. now it's back to. martin. >> thank you tatiana. now we've got an absolute ton of stuff to get through today, so let's get cracking . and nearly two years cracking. and nearly two years after then—home secretary dame priti patel first announced the migrant deal with rwanda is the end, finally, finally in sight. while mp5 are debating the bill right now , you have live right now, you have live pictures there from the house of commons. you can see them debating this and that's after the house of lords once again rejected it last night. well, i'm joined in our studio in westminster by our political edhon westminster by our political editor, christopher hope . chris, editor, christopher hope. chris, forgive me for sounding jaded . forgive me for sounding jaded. forgive me for sounding wary. forgive me for sounding wary. forgive me for sounding wary. forgive me for sounding like i've been through this conversation a multitude of times before, but could today finally be the day the rwanda bill gets over the line?

>> well, i reported on here for your show a month ago that the day it will become law is tomorrow, and i still stand by that. i do think this is the third ping pong, ping pong, ping pong commons and the pong between the commons and the lords. imagine a game of table tennis. this essentially this tennis. this is essentially this is part of our democracy that the commons are doing something which are not which the laws are not. are not sure they want the sure about. they want the commons back and rethink commons to go back and rethink it commons said already it. the commons has said already twice, a third time today they're to say sorry, your they're going to say sorry, your changes not acceptable. changes are not acceptable. there's mp5 are there's four changes the mp5 are voting on. you saw in that clip there from the chamber right now, like, allowing people now, areas like, allowing people to military , to work with the uk military, afghans not to be flown to rwanda if they arrive here illegally. others including that rwanda should be seen as safe rwanda should be seen as a safe country by an independent body. these are all according to the government . these are all ways government. these are all ways which will to stop which lawyers will use to stop flights taking off. they'll use these little into this law, these little ways into this law, or when it becomes a law to stop flights being taken off with with asylum seekers back to

rwanda. so that's why the government is so certain that it won't move on it. i think about 5:00 today, all those amendments will overturned by mp5 in will be overturned by mp5 in votes in the commons. it goes back to the lords. then all eyes on the laws. the laws may well say, made our point. say, okay, we've made our point. this rwanda act will go take this rwanda act will now go take go forward the buckingham palace probably tomorrow. and then the clock ticking on the 150 clock starts ticking on the 150 or so people who weren't meant to to rwanda by plane. to be sent to rwanda by plane. and the is to get and then the idea is to get thousands taken off every year. but don't forget, labour won't exit, even if it does deter the people smugglers over the over from france. >> two years and half £1 billion in not a single sausage has been flown to rwanda. >> you set that against the cost of the 5 billion cost of putting people up in hotels. so there's another side, other side of that ledger. there's a big cost to rwanda, no question. there's ledger. there's a big cost to ricost a, no question. there's ledger. there's a big cost to ricost ofno question. there's ledger. there's a big cost to ricost of having.tion. there's ledger. there's a big cost to ricost of having them there's ledger. there's a big cost to ricost of having them in there's ledger. there's a big cost to ricost of having them in hotels.. a cost of having them in hotels. and think the government and i think the government should two should have way off the two costs working rwanda costs and working out net rwanda is the labour party are is better. the labour party are calling one most calling it one of the most expensive elephants expensive white elephants in political history.

expensive white elephants in poland. history. expensive white elephants in poland. iguess the real fun >> and i guess the real fun starts when passes . and starts when it passes. and i hate brexit, but hate to mention brexit, but i'm going it. my show. going to do it. it's my show. >> brexit started. >> brexit started. >> the fun started when the law was and then the lawyers was passed and then the lawyers go to the judiciary, go at it. we yesterday mental we reported yesterday the mental health, the physical health, the endangerment of asylum seekers. they were okay when they were fleeing a war zone. but when they get put up in a hotel in rwanda, lawyers will be rwanda, the lawyers will be licking stop them licking their lips to stop them taking know taking off. chris, i know i mentioned it every time , but do mentioned it every time, but do you think your pint beer, you think your pint of beer, that had with the prime that bet you had with the prime minister, rishi sunak, you said a person take off a single person won't take off before general before the next general election. think you'll be election. do you think you'll be as that beer is safe? as safe that beer is safe? >> i think because i struck that bet september , for the may bet in september, for the may with my was the may with in my mind was the may election may the 2nd. yes. i think no flights take off before may the 2nd. i think some might take off in june. >> you think they'll take off before election? before the general election? if it's windsor in it's a windsor election in november? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it be enough if that >> will it be enough if that starts happening? and they say, look, on it, it look, we made good on it, it might be imperfect plan, but might be an imperfect plan, but

we our will we were good for our word. will that intended that land metaphor intended with the voters? that land metaphor intended with the i voters? that land metaphor intended with thei think voters? that land metaphor intended with thei think it voters? that land metaphor intended with thei think it doesoters? that land metaphor intended with thei think it does show there's >> i think it does show there's an attempt at dealing with it. >> you look planning, >> if you look at the planning, they planning 30,000 or so they are planning 30,000 or so people rwanda people being flown to rwanda over five years. the first over over five years. the first thing first five years of thing is the first five years of the operation. so the operation. the scheme. so over a period i think it might well part the problem, well work. part of the problem, right that the home right now is that the home office the hotels office managed the hotels budget, that budget is paid budget, but that budget is paid for from the aid budget controlled by the foreign office. home office have office. so the home office have no to keep that no real need to keep that that leader cost of the leader on it. on the cost of the hotels. leader on it. on the cost of the hot okay. live pictures >> okay. well, live pictures on your a5 >> okay. well, live pictures on your as you can your screen there. as you can see, commons still see, house of commons are still debating ahead of that vote debating this ahead of that vote later on. and i'm joined by later on. and i'm now joined by kevin saunders. he's the former chief immigration officer of uk border force. kev, welcome to the show. always a pleasure . you the show. always a pleasure. you heard there from chris hope. the law should finally creek its way over the line. the big question is kev, do you think a single flight will ever take off? >> oh yes, i think i think it's almost certain if we get the legislation through this week .

legislation through this week. yes it will, it will happen. the home office have already identified the people they want to remove to rwanda, so it will just be a question of sorting out how and when . out how and when. >> and when do you think those flights might take off? we were going on a may election here. get those flights off by may. we're looking something later now. and more of a full time election. maybe even the end of the how typically, the year. how soon? typically, kevin, you think this gets kevin, do you think if this gets passed law, just say it gets passed in law, just say it gets passed in law, just say it gets passed month do passed this week. what month do you see flights get you think we'll see flights get off ground? june. you think we'll see flights get off it'llground? june. you think we'll see flights get off it'll be jnd? june. you think we'll see flights get off it'll be asi? june. you think we'll see flights get off it'll be as soon e. you think we'll see flights get off it'll be as soon as that . the >> it'll be as soon as that. the mechanics are all in place . it mechanics are all in place. it just needs the green light from the from parliament and the home office will be off and running. >> wow. i'm joined in the studio by chris hope. he's got a question for you. kevin. yeah. >> kevin, i just wondered what your old friends in the border

force were saying to you. do they might actually they think this might actually work labour work despite what the labour party saying? work despite what the labour paroh, saying? work despite what the labour paroh, yes. ng? work despite what the labour paroh, yes. yeah. the general >> oh, yes. yeah. the general feeling on the ground is this will work because it's a deterrent. there must be a deterrent. there must be a deterrent . everybody except the deterrent. everybody except the labour party have agreed there needs to be a deterrent. even the ncaa say there needs to be a deterrent. so this will be the deterrent. so this will be the deterrent and you will find if this works, other countries are going to jump in on it as well. so it won't just be rwanda where there are we now know of at least three other countries which have been named , which are which have been named, which are looking at taking, a chunk of this as well. so, yeah, this is going to work. >> the next question, of course, kevin , is and you will know kevin, is and you will know this, from your time at border force , the ngos, the charities, force, the ngos, the charities, the lawyers, the judiciary , the lawyers, the judiciary, they've already been licking their lips at what they see as

loopholes. even in this more robust version of the rwanda bill, they say they'll be able to fight, for example , because to fight, for example, because the rwanda regime has previously been hostile towards political protests. so if they, for example , can make out that example, can make out that anybody being deported there has anybody being deported there has a history of protesting, they could face human rights issues, do you still think there could be a fresh battle ahead with the lawyers and the charities and the ngos? >> kevin, they the lawyers will look at what possibly could look at what they possibly could do they're making money do because they're making money out of this. everybody thinks the are doing this out the lawyers are doing this out of the goodness of their heart. they're not. they're making oodles and oodles of money out of this . so they will spin it of this. so they will spin it out for as long as they possibly can. so, kevin, you've been kevin , you've been saying for kevin, you've been saying for many, many, many months, if not years that offshore containment is the only answer , aside from is the only answer, aside from preventing craft from landing here in the first place. with all that in mind, as a former

chief immigration officer, do you think rwanda fits the bill? >> yes it does. it fits the bill, ideally. right. it's the right place at the right time. it will act as a deterrent . the it will act as a deterrent. the migrants will look at what's happening , and the home office happening, and the home office are launching videos saying what's going to happen. and it will. people will think, i'm not going to risk it. i'm not going to risk going to the uk because the chances of being removed are so high they aren't going to spend the money. >> well, there we go. kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer of uk border force. you've got faith in it. could this be the lifeline that rishi sunak so desperately requires ? kev, thanks for requires? kev, thanks for joining us. always a pleasure. now i've got some breaking news for you and a man who set lights to two elderly worshippers as they made their way home from mosques , has been sentenced to mosques, has been sentenced to

an indefinite hospital order. mohammed abacha was convicted of two counts of attempted murder last year, and abacha is being treated at ashworth high security hospital in merseyside, and he watched today's proceedings by video link. and we'll have more on this story a little later in the show . now, little later in the show. now, there's still plenty of time to grab your chance to win a greek cruise , travel goodies and cruise, travel goodies and a £10,000 tax free cash bank to cash bank balance boost hazel details you need to get on board. >> don't miss your chance to win our biggest prize so far. there's an incredible £10,000 in tax free cash to spend however you like. plus, courtesy of variety cruises , a bespoke seven variety cruises, a bespoke seven night small boat cruise for two worth £10,000 with flights, meals, excursions and drinks included , your next holiday included, your next holiday could be on us. choose any one of their 2025 greek adventures and find your home at sea. we'll also send you packing with these

luxury travel gifts for another chance to win a prize worth over £20,000. text win to 63232. text cost £2 plus one standard network rate message or post your name and number to gb04, po box 8690. derby dh1 nine, double two. uk only entrants must be 18 or over. lines closed at 5 pm. on the 26th of april. full terms and privacy notice at gbnews.com/win please check the closing time if listening or watching on demand. good luck i watching on demand. good luck! >> great stuff. now yesterday we covered the decision to shut down nigel farage at a conference in belgium. but today the event has gone ahead as planned and it's being hailed as a victory for free speech. and furthermore, the mayor might find himself now in a bit of a legal pickle. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

>> earlier on breakfast, we had businessmen, business women. i mean, this was. this actually was quite an intellectual gathering of people. >> i think rishi sunak has some questions to answer about his own mp5 and who they're associating with. >> you have to be able to be on a platform generally with people that you disagree with. >> they wanted down free >> they wanted to shut down free speech. they but i'm speech. they tried, but i'm pleased we've won. pleased to say we've won. >> i personally am, i think i've been converted grumpy pub . been converted to a grumpy pub. >> wait a minute. all right. >> wait a minute. all right. >> you're not going to it. >> you're not going to eat it. >> you're not going to eat it. >> try and be >> who's going to try and be healthy from six? >> it's breakfast on gb news. >> it's breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. it's 323. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now. later in the show, i'll talk about king charles's plans to have 2000 solar panels installed at his estate at sandringham. is it forward thinking or is it environmental

destruction ? varne now moving on destruction? varne now moving on to what's been hailed as a victory for free speech and the national conservatism conference in brussels has resumed today after a belgian court overturned after a belgian court overturned a local mayor's decision to close it down yesterday. and the court's ruling came shortly after belgium's prime minister, alexander de croo, condemn named mayor emir kiir's decision to send police in to shut down the conference yesterday morning and nigel farage has been at the conference and he spoke on breakfast, where he declared they'd won against the people who opposed the events going ahead. >> eamonn i can tell you in the room , you know, we had members room, you know, we had members of european royal families. we had distinguished academics, we had distinguished academics, we had businessmen, business women. i mean, this was this actually was quite an intellectual gathering of people. i can't think of a more peaceful group of people to be in a room with. the whole thing was a nonsense . the whole thing was a nonsense. they wanted to shut down free speech. tried. but i'm speech. they tried. but i'm pleased say we've won and i'm

pleased to say we've won and i'm heading off the conference heading off to the conference again. the conference again. now the conference will continue . continue. >> i haven't seen nigel in front of those brussels flags in some time. well, let's cross now to brussels and join our reporter , brussels and join our reporter, charlie peters. charlie. so they came , they saw, but they didn't came, they saw, but they didn't conquer free speech. they tried to close it down yesterday morning. the show rolls on. >> what's the latest with the moral authority to make judgement. well, yesterday, martin, when the police turned up at this venue to prevent people from entering or leaving for some time , we did see in the for some time, we did see in the house of commons wes streeting on the labour front benches, saying that suella braverman's speech was being interrupted by far right fanatics. well, in the last hour i've been hearing a speech from a think tanker in london talking about european unity and giving quite an intellectual take on the situation on the continent , but situation on the continent, but not necessarily the far right fanaticism that has been branded as thriving at this conference.

yes, we did also hear from a former polish prime minister and the serving prime minister of hungary, viktor orban, who gave a conversation with a leading conservative thinker on the current state of european politics. a5 nigel said in your in your clip just played now, it's been something of an intellectual conference, not a rally of any sort. and i think even the most critical attendee at this occasion would not say that it's a threat to public safety. and let's not forget , safety. and let's not forget, thatis safety. and let's not forget, that is the perspective that was put forward by the district mayor here, amir kier, when he issued that to order shut down the event, citing a potential for violence to erupt at this event. well, we've seen no such thing while covering the event today. it has gone on after some significant legal intervention, which ended at 2:30 am. this morning, with the judge stepping in to allow the conference to go on free speech has been the victor here in brussels ,

victor here in brussels, charlie, not everybody is happy. of course , about nigel farage of course, about nigel farage and others being in the city, especially brussels. a place, of course, that nigel fought his entire career to get away from, but nevertheless , this ruling but nevertheless, this ruling has showed us that your opinion of people isn't the same as being able to ban them . and we being able to ban them. and we spoke with stephen barrett yesterday. who barrister who says that the authorities in brussels may themselves actually of have contravened the human rights of the attendees. they may have broken the echr >> yes. and some of the organisers here who spoke to me last night in the midst of that legal challenge, did indicate they would look for slightly more aggressive legal options. once this was clear, they might look to react in the law. to those who try to shut down this conference yesterday, and while they were very disturbed by that, rather chilling effect to shut down the conference, in many ways, they're also quite grateful there have been grateful because there have been

several national conservatism conferences now. the one in london last year attracted headunes london last year attracted headlines for having tory mp5 such gove and miriam such as michael gove and miriam cates as keynote speakers. but the brussels gathering has always been a little bit more muted at a smaller venue . but muted at a smaller venue. but because of that, police pressure from a political directive to shut down the event suddenly natcon at brussels has attracted far more attention and more press and more headlines than any other event they've put on this local district. mayor tried to shut down this event, but organisers say it's put them bangin organisers say it's put them bang in the centre of the continental conversation . continental conversation. >> superb. >> superb. >> charlie peters there from the national conservatism conference in brussels. thank you for that update from the event . and update live from the event. and earlier today we spoke to paul coleman, one of the lawyers behind the legal challenge that allowed event to continue. allowed the event to continue. it's crazy 24 hours. the it's been a crazy 24 hours. the challenge last night was actually the third legal challenge. we had three different legal challenges in three languages in 24 hours. the

last of which was at 10 pm. last of which was at 10 pm. last night. it was an emergency heanng last night. it was an emergency hearing before the administrative tribunal here. the council of state, the court, to their great credit , convene to their great credit, convene this emergency hearing. we had the judge and advocate general and many other members of staff there letting us into the courthouse at 10 pm. to argue the case and argue the fact that , what was happening. the mayor's decree had no lawful bafis. mayor's decree had no lawful basis . it was disproportionate, basis. it was disproportionate, and it needed to be suspended to enable this event to take place. and that's exactly what the judge ruled, as you say, at about two in the morning this morning. >> now, the belgian prime minister that the move was minister said that the move was unconstitutional . panel. were unconstitutional. panel. were you the ruling? unconstitutional. panel. were you no. the ruling? unconstitutional. panel. were you no. we the ruling? unconstitutional. panel. were you no. we were the ruling? unconstitutional. panel. were you no. we were expecting|? unconstitutional. panel. were you no. we were expecting it >> no. we were expecting it because what we were surprised aboutis because what we were surprised about is that the mayor had acted in such a way to shut this event down in the first place. >> it was really quite extraordinary. we talk all the time about cancel culture, but not have experienced not many of us have experienced cancel riot police not many of us have experienced can deployed riot police not many of us have experienced can deployed by riot police not many of us have experienced can deployed by a riot police

not many of us have experienced can deployed by a public police are deployed by a public official in order to block an event that is espousing views different to that of the of the person in power. in this case, the mayor that was paul coleman. and yesterday we also spoke to a flemish mep who said, actually, this kind of closing down of events has been routine in brussels for many years . but brussels for many years. but once again, when they picked on nigel farage, they picked on the wrong man. that's why the whole world is now talking about this. the cancellation backfired . now the cancellation backfired. now there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00 later this hour i'll cross live to blackpool, where the number of children in care almost three children in care is almost three times the national average. but first, for your latest first, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's tatiana sanchez. >> martin. thank you. the top stories this hour. first to that breaking news in the last hour, a 28 year old man convicted of attempting to murder two elderly worshippers in what a judge

described as horrific attacks, has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. mohammed abacha, who was who has paranoid schizophrenia, threw petrol over his victims and set them alight outside mosques in birmingham and in london, the court heard 82 year old hashi oduah and 70 year old mohammed rayas were chosen at random because abacha believed they were possessed by evil spirits. today his sentencing took place with abacha attending via video link from ashworth high security hospital in merseyside . we've hospital in merseyside. we've also heard today that sussex police has formally apologised for serious failings in its investigation into the murders of two nine year old girls, nicola fellows and karen hadaway were sexually assaulted and strangled by paedophile russell bishop in a woodland in brighton in 1986. the attacker was acquitted at the end of his first trial in december 1987, due to weakness in the case and

lies told by bishop's ex—girlfriend , who was later ex—girlfriend, who was later jailed for perjury. sussex police force has also apologised for the wrongful arrest of nicola's father, barrie fellows . nicola's father, barrie fellows. in other news, the keir starmer has accused the prime minister of dodging questions over cutting the nhs or state pensions to cover the cost of scrapping national insurance. speaking during prime minister's questions, the labour leader criticised the conservatives for what he called their obsession with wild unfunded tax cuts. but rishi sunak fought back, telling the commons it's always the same with labour, with higher taxes and working people paying the price . and the israeli prime price. and the israeli prime minister has told lord cameron that israel will make its own decisions about how to defend itself as global leaders plead for restraint against iran. the foreign secretary has been speaking with benjamin netanyahu following iranian missile and drone strikes at the weekend. he

says more can and should be done to sanction iran. tehran however, rishi sunak told his israeli counterpart significant escalation is in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the middle east. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb news. common screen, or go to gb news. common alerts . alerts. >> for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . the gb news financial report. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2458 and ,1.1705. the price of gold is £1,918.93 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7864 points. >> rosalind gold proudly

sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> thank you tatiana, we've got lots more still to come. this hour and a few minutes i'll cross live to my home city of nottingham. look at that. we're the biggest english flag in the country. has been unfurled ahead of george's day next of saint george's day next tuesday. gets the juices flowing. but first, there's a new way to get in touch with us. and here's bev turner with all the details. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a new way of getting in with us way of getting in touch with us at gbnews.com/yoursay your say by commenting you can be part of a conversation and join our a live conversation and join our gb news community. you even gb news community. you can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the news the members of the gb news family go family. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay

to. >> welcome back. it's 337. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, a debate is going on right now at the scottish parliament, where the conservatives are calling on mp5, to back their motion mp5, msps to back their motion on repealing the hate crime bill. live pictures there from holyrood and will cross live to scotland to get the full story. a little later in the show. but first to a story that makes me very, very proud. the largest cross of saint george in the entire country has been unfurled in my home city of nottingham. look at it now. we all know how so many people have tried to cancel england's national flag, so this is a great thing to see. six days before saint george's day. well, we've been out and aboutin day. well, we've been out and about in nottingham to get the views of the locals. >> i think it's really good to see it up there. it's good to see it up there. it's good to see a celebration of, of england, the country. i think there's lot times we there's a lot of times now we don't celebrate it's good to

don't celebrate and it's good to see. it's pretty good see. i think it's pretty good actually. looks good. actually. it looks pretty good. yeah. support local, yeah. nice to support the local, the local saint, so to speak. >> i think it's amazing. >> i think it's amazing. >> i think it's amazing. >> i do, i think it's absolutely amazing. and it's proud for something in our country. oh, yeah. proud to be english, of course. coui'se. >> course. >> absolutely brilliant. yeah it should, should, celebrate it more . you know what i mean? yeah. >> does it make you feel proud to be english? >> oh, yeah. definitely. >> oh, yeah. definitely. >> yeah, definitely . >> yeah, definitely. >> yeah, definitely. >> it's in. well, let's cross live now to old market square and speak to natalie fahey, who's the editor of nottingham live. natalie, welcome to the show. always a pleasure to have you on. i know the old market square, my old stomping ground , square, my old stomping ground, that council house. brian clough lived european cups on lived the two european cups on that balcony behind us there, that balcony behind us there, that house. natalie that council house. natalie normally has flags for pride for trans awareness, for inclusivity, for black history month , for disability. but this month, for disability. but this when this flag came out today, the first reaction i had nancy

was, is it real? it's behind you. is it real? >> well, it's definitely real. >> well, it's definitely real. >> and it's interesting. you mentioned all those different flags because nottingham city council puts a flag for council puts a flag up for almost everything. council puts a flag up for alnif;t everything. council puts a flag up for aln if you erything. council puts a flag up for aln if you walk ng. council puts a flag up for aln if you walk past here at any >> if you walk past here at any given you'll see a flag given time, you'll see a flag for all those occasions you've mentioned, but also when a sports team well when sports team does well when forest and in forest were promoted, and in fact , you know, the saint fact, you know, the saint george's cross, which you can see behind me, it's 60 foot by 26 foot, which is absolutely huge. 26 foot, which is absolutely hugthis goes up every single >> this goes up every single year without fail. and i've been working for nearly working in nottingham for nearly 13 goes up every 13 years, and it goes up every single . in fact, this year single year. in fact, this year it's going an even longer it's going up for an even longer penod it's going up for an even longer period than it was last year, last year, you know, as a news team, we were getting quite concerned that the flag hadn't gone spoke to the city council >> we spoke to the city council about it because it's about it because we know it's important lot people important to a lot of people here who to here in the city who love to admire you've just seen. admire it, as you've just seen. >> they did put it up a day before. >> but this year, someone was walking past of our walking past one of our reporters said, oh, it's reporters and said, oh, it's gone week early . so we're gone up a week early. so we're hopefully week the hopefully getting a week of the

saint cross year. saint george's cross this year. and i think just great that and i think it's just great that nottingham city council is celebrating everything because we everything. we should celebrate everything. >> diverse >> we've got a great diverse city and there are a lot of people here who want to people here who really want to celebrate saint george's as celebrate saint george's day as they celebrate saint they want to celebrate saint patrick's day. >> pride and, forest panthers, whatever is. and the council whatever it is. and the council house is a great place to display all those things . display all those things. everyone sees it. it's iconic. brilliant. >> yeah. natalie you know, a lot of people are very, very happy about this. we've been inundated with viewers comments. i'll read a quick one out to you here. ted says martin, perhaps should says martin, perhaps we should make capital of make nottingham the capital of england , since i don't expect we england, since i don't expect we will see the like of this ever in london. it's fantastic. natalie, when spoke , it natalie, when we last spoke, it was under different circumstances about a machete attack in nottingham. it's fantastic to see something positive , coming out of the city positive, coming out of the city and we're speaking to locals earlier. they were delighted with their. what have your readers been saying to you about it? they're also massively swelled by this patriotic act .

swelled by this patriotic act. >> yeah, well, our readers do like it. i mean, we get a few comments saying, oh, i don't like it, and it's a bit, you know, right wing or that kind of thing. but there are a lot of people who are actually proud to be english and that we be english and think that we should celebrating saint should be celebrating saint george's other george's day alongside other things the too . things we celebrate in the too. city, and think you could city, and i think you could probably nottingham quite probably say nottingham is quite typically we've probably say nottingham is quite typithey we've probably say nottingham is quite typithe heritage we've probably say nottingham is quite typithe heritage of we've probably say nottingham is quite typithe heritage of robin ve probably say nottingham is quite typithe heritage of robin hood, got the heritage of robin hood, maid marian and what we've seen in previous years in old market square really sort square is this really sort of fantastic where get fantastic parade where you get people as saint people dressed up as saint george on horseback, and robin hood as well . so it hood takes part as well. so it becomes a really sort of traditional english celebration . traditional english celebration. and that's not actually happening this because the happening this year, because the costs putting on the parade costs of putting on the parade have gone up three fold. apparently so the saint george's association, based in association, which is based in radford, are doing a smaller scale event events at the old salutation inn, which is a great pub just over there, and they're going to be fundraising to make sure ahead sure the parades can go ahead next people do want next year. but if people do want to celebrate , there's an event to celebrate, there's an event going there there's going

going on there and there's going to songs played to be patriotic songs played all day all disco, so it's day at an all day disco, so it's really the place to go if you want to celebrate saint george's day. >> superb. i remember the old sally. i've had many a misspent night there. natalie fay, thank you much. a fantastic you very much. a fantastic story, well done for breaking this story nationwide and well done all the work you do. done for all the work you do. that's who's that's natalie fay, who's the editor nottingham live . editor of nottingham live. thanks for joining editor of nottingham live. thanks forjoining us live from thanks for joining us live from the market square. now moving on. blackpool made its name as the popular tourist the uk's most popular tourist destination, and as recently as 2022, more than 20 million people visited the seaside town . people visited the seaside town. but blackpool is also one of the most deprived places in the country, and it's now emerged as an incredible 1 in 52 children in the town are in care, and that's almost three times the average for england. well, our north—west of england reporter sophie reaper is in blackpool. sophie, these figures are shocking, aren't they? what's behind them ? behind them? >> well, i think shocking just

about sums it up, martin. those figures of course coming from the north of england today, as you say, blackpool faring the worst. but they're not alone. there are several other places, for example, hartlepool in the north—east of england. they're showing one in every 63 children in care. that's compared, of course, to the benchmark national average or english average, i should say, of one in every 140 children finding themselves in care. now, this problem is really amplified . i problem is really amplified. i feel when you compare places like blackpool and hartlepool to other parts of the country, for example , in hertfordshire, example, in hertfordshire, they're showing one in every 278. in buckinghamshire it's a similar story, one in every 256. so a real disparity there between places in the north of england compared to places in the south. now, the author of this report, doctor davara

bennett, has talked about how this report shows not only an issue with cuts to prevention, but also that child poverty in england in the north of england is becoming a growing issue , she is becoming a growing issue, she said. our report has exposed the deeply rooted social inequalities reflected in an exacerbated by the child welfare system . local authorities are system. local authorities are trapped in a cycle of ever greater spend on children in care at the expense of investments in effective support for families in need. strong words indeed there. from the author of that report from the university of liverpool. now the a spokesperson from the department of education has said they're pledging £45 million in pilot areas of the uk as they attempt to try and tackle this issue of child social care. they're also promising £250 million across three years.

that's to those people leaving care , they say. that's for care, they say. that's for providing housing access to education and for employment and training . now this, of course, training. now this, of course, comes as part of the wider , comes as part of the wider, longer terms plan to tackle the issue of child social care. but for places like hartlepool and here in blackpool, this is a very real problem . and it's very real problem. and it's a problem that's here right now . problem that's here right now. >> sophie reaper thanks for shining a light on this important social issue. live there from blackpool now is waleses controversial 20 mile an hour policy going to be scrapped? well, that's what they're debating right now in they're debating right now in the senate later this afternoon. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's channel

welcome back. it's 349. i'm martin

daubney on gb news now at 4:00. i'll have the latest from the rwanda debate in the house of commons, which you can see is going on right now on your screen. we'll have a full discussion on that in the next houn discussion on that in the next hour. but before that, almost 470,000 people have signed a petition calling for wales's 20 mile per hour zones to be scrapped and a debate on that very topic is about to get underway at the welsh synod. while the welsh conservatives called for that debate. and joining me now is the is their leader, andrew rmt davies. andrew, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so or almost half a million people signed the petition. now the labour party will say this. this limit is necessary to bring down deaths on the roads, to bring down air pollution . but what's your take pollution. but what's your take on it? >> well, we know from the government's own figures the welsh labour government's own figures, that this could potentially an economic potentially have an economic impact approximately £9 impact of approximately £9 billion on the welsh economy, money that the economy

money that the welsh economy desperately needs. we know from other other countries other surveys in other countries that have implemented 20 mph, that have implemented 20 mph, that there hasn't been the casualty reduction that we all want to see on our roads and so on, all counts. the information that welsh labour out there that welsh labour put out there is incorrect, and we know that, as in introduction , as you in your introduction, martin highlighted, this really has the attention of the has focused the attention of the welsh public by having a signature. biggest petition signature. the biggest petition signature. the biggest petition signature that the welsh parliament has had its parliament has had since its inception. 25 years ago of nearly half a million signatures. >> so that's why our first week back after the easter recess, we, as welsh conservatives have chosen to table this debate today. so we won't have the votes because labour plied in the lib dems want this to go forward. >> and sadly, the economy of wales and the people of wales will have to labour under this ridiculous rule that they brought in in september of last year. yeah >> well, andrew, half a million people have signed that petition. they're obviously not very about it. the very happy about it. but the fact matter is the setup fact of the matter is the setup of the senate means today's

debate as interesting as it may be, it won't have an impact. well, this will still be made law, but what are you intending to say ? to say? >> well, it is already law, martin. and it came in in september year. we will september last year. but we will continue highlight the continue to highlight the stupidity of these rules and this legislation. we believe that 20 mph outside sensitive sites such as schools, hospitals and care homes is a sensible precaution . but having precaution. but having a national reduction in the speed limit to 20 mph where it previously was 30 mph is, as i said by the government's own figures , a big hit on the welsh economy. >> up to £9 billion. >> up to £9 billion. >> and when you look at spain, you look at belfast and you look at other areas which have implemented 20 mph on a similar scale, there hasn't been the casualty reduction that the welsh labour government have tried to promote. and so we make no for using no apology for using parliamentary time to show that we are the side of the we are on the side of the people's choices when it comes to marking up priorities. we to marking up priorities. and we believe that given the scale of

this petition and the constant mailing to us as members of the welsh parliament, that this is an not going to go an issue that's not going to go away, not going to let it away, we're not going to let it go away we'll campaign right go away and we'll campaign right up we get it changed. up until we get it changed. >> andrew another >> and andrew isn't another reason will this will reason that this will this will stay law, is that these stay in law, is that these schemes lucrative. they schemes are so lucrative. they take off the take so much money off the motorists. they become huge motorists. they become a huge revenue for revenue source for the governments power . governments in power. >> well, it is a revenue raiser as well, obviously the government delayed the introduction of the sanctions. part legislation , and part of this legislation, and it's only the last month that sanctions started to be sanctions have started to be implemented, this could have obviously impact obviously a devastating impact on people's ability to go and earn a wage. >> we've heard from courier firms, example, how they've firms, for example, how they've had down routes and had to cut down on routes and obviously extend delivery times because can't get the roads because they can't get the roads , get around the roads that they need to. >> and we've seen best >> and we've also seen best services withdrawn from bus operators wales , mid operators in north wales, mid wales and south wales because obviously timetables have been impacted by the change, change in speed. >> but andrew andrew, the labour party, is

party, will say that this is necessary. might be painful, necessary. it might be painful, but necessary . vie it's but it's necessary. vie it's about air. it's about about clean air. it's about leading way . about clean air. it's about leading way. it's about leading the way. it's about setting a standard for the next generation. well that's just complete nonsense. >> nonsense. >> nonsense. >> i mean, we know that there's a transition the combustion a transition from the combustion engine car, and engine to the electric car, and ultimately that will happen in hgv commercial vehicles over hgv and commercial vehicles over time. but what we do need is an economy that can create quality jobs. we need safety on our roads. and as i said, the evidence doesn't show that there will that they will be that reduction that they purport say will happen. purport to say will happen. >> the retention of >> we support the retention of 20 mph outside sensitive sites such as hospitals, care homes and schools. but we do believe that this national policy across all 30 mph roads needs to be redacted and taken off the statute book and common sense prevail and the people's priorities isn't do okay. >> well, that's that's andrew davies, the leader of welsh conservatives ahead of that debate in the senate. this afternoon. thanks for joining debate in the senate. this afternoon. thanks forjoining us on the show. now, you've been getting in touch in your droves,

particularly on the saint george's flag. got a quick email here. flag here. linda says great flag makes so proud to see it on makes me so proud to see it on display. david, as this we should be proud of our history and our heritage, which is see saint george's flags everywhere now then. the rwanda bill has been debated in the house of commons right now, and after all of this waiting, it could finally become law very, very soon. we're expected to see this voted away today, perhaps tomorrow , and then go into royal tomorrow, and then go into royal ascension. will that happen? will will we finally get a single person off the ground and away to rwanda ? i'm martin away to rwanda? i'm martin daubney on gb news, but now it's time your weather and it's time for your weather and it's alex deakin . alex deakin. >> with a brighter outlook, with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news.

going to be a cold one tonight where we have the clearest spells. we could see some pockets of frost. a fair few showers still around this evening , some quite heavy ones evening, some quite heavy ones over eastern england, grey and damp over pembrokeshire, devon and cornwall. should and cornwall. that rain should clear we'll keep some clear away. we'll keep some showers going over the east, but for many it will be dry and with the clearer skies over southern scotland, northwest england and wales, that's where are wales, that's where we are likely touch of frost. likely to see a touch of frost. certainly countryside, likely to see a touch of frost. certaiitowns countryside, likely to see a touch of frost. certaiitowns ccitieslside, likely to see a touch of frost. certaiitowns ccitieslsidejust many towns and cities will just about freezing , but about hover above freezing, but it is going to be a fairly cold start to thursday . most will start to thursday. most will have a dry and a bright start though with some sunshine. could be some shower clouds over kent early they'll certainly be some shower clouds over kent early rain'hey'll certainly be some shower clouds over kent early rain coming ertainly be some shower clouds over kent early rain coming into nly be some shower clouds over kent early rain coming into the some rain coming into the highlands and the western isles, and across most of and that spreads across most of scotland. lunchtime, scotland. by lunchtime, the north of northern north and east of northern ireland likely to see a little bit of rain at times as well. and that rain will spread into northern maybe north and that rain will spread into northerby maybe north and that rain will spread into northerby the maybe north and that rain will spread into northerby the end maybe north and that rain will spread into northerby the end of|ybe north and that rain will spread into northerby the end of the north and that rain will spread into northerby the end of the dayth and that rain will spread into northerby the end of the day .| wales, by the end of the day. the far south, though, generally stays fine day for east stays dry. a fine day for east anglia london area. 15 anglia and the london area. 15 possible here, but elsewhere it will cooler as the

will be turning cooler as the cloud and the rain moves in. getting again through the getting windy again through the day breezy day day and another breezy day on friday a mixture friday with a mixture of sunshine showers . generally sunshine and showers. generally a grey start in the south, perhaps brightening little perhaps brightening up a little bit the showers bit with most of the showers across and eastern across central and eastern parts. day for scotland parts. drier day for scotland and ireland, but and northern ireland, but not much temperatures in some much warmer temperatures in some places. single figures and even in the south into the teens , but in the south into the teens, but feeling with the breeze. feeling colder with the breeze. bye . bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you. it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting from halls broadcasting live from the halls of all across the of westminster all across the uk. coming today's show uk. coming up on today's show could the rwanda bill be a step nearer being made into law

today? mp5 are debating it right now as you can see on your screen, and yet another lords revolt couldn't stop it. but will a single flight ever take off? next up yesterday riot police in brussels dramatically attempted to close down the national conservatism conference, where they not only failed to do that, but at 2 am, a judge spectacularly overturned that ban will be live from the scene where the show goes on and also scotland's hate crime law is being challenged by scottish conservatives and msps or debating that's controversial legislation right now. and again, you can see that on your screen. but will it be voted out in holyrood this afternoon, or will it still remain on the books ? and now for the good books? and now for the good news. inflation is down. but the bad news it's down a meagre 0.2, meaning a cut in interest rates is looking increasingly unlikely . and we'll have a full analysis

of what that means for the pound and the pence in your pocket. and that's all coming up in your next hour . welcome to the show. next hour. welcome to the show. well, it's been groundhog day for two years since dame priti patel introduced the rwanda bill as a concept. today could finally be the day when it gets voted through. well, a single flight, though take off. the lawyers are already licking their lips at picking holes in it. the judiciary, the charities, the ngos, the activists, the luvvies, the lineker rights they surely would do everything they can to stop those flights taking off. but earlier in the show today, we spoke with kevin saunders, a former chief immigration officer at border force, and he's confident that flights will take off as soon as june. let me know what you think. get in touch. the usual ways and there's a new way to get in touch. send your

views and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay or say send them in. this is your show just as much as mine. but before all of that is your is your headlines and it's polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, the top story from the newsroom today is that sir keir starmer has accused the prime minister of dodging questions on cutting funding for the nhs and state pensions to cover the cost of eventually scrapping national insurance . speaking during prime insurance. speaking during prime minister's questions a short time ago, the labour leader criticised the conservatives for what he called their obsession with wild, unfunded tax cuts. but rishi sunak fought back, telling the commons it's always the same with labour, with higher taxes and working people paying higher taxes and working people paying the price. well, the exchange continued, with sir keir pointing that keir starmer pointing out that no politician has put up taxes more times than the prime

minister. have a listen. >> i was a lawyer long enough to know when someone's avoiding the question. so i'm going to give him another chance. will he now rule out cuts to the nhs , cuts rule out cuts to the nhs, cuts the state pension or putting up taxes to pay for his unfunded £46 billion promise to scrap national insurance? which is it? >> but the prime minister said he makes no apology for wanting to end the unfairness of double taxation on work. >> the nhs is receiving record funding under this conservative government. pensioners have just received a £900 increase. under this government . but if he wants this government. but if he wants to talk about tax, let's have a look at what labour's brand newly appointed tax adviser has to say. this adviser, this adviser thinks that supporting pensioners is a complete disgrace . mr speaker, he disgrace. mr speaker, he believes their free tv licences are ridiculous and if it wasn't

bad enough, this adviser has called for increases in income tax in national insurance and vat . it all makes sense now. vat. it all makes sense now. that's who the shadow chancellor has been copying and pasting from . from. >> well, in other news today, downing street has ruled out making concessions on the government's flagship rwanda bill. if you're watching on television, take a look inside the commons , where mp5 are the commons, where mp5 are holding what could be the final debate on the migrant deportation scheme. the legislation proven highly controversial, of course, being passed around parliament to the commons, then back up to the upper chamber in the house of lords and through the courts as well. downing street is hoping to clear the final hurdle, as it puts it this week, and get planes off the ground soon. labouh planes off the ground soon. labour, insisting the scheme is doomed to failure. and it comes as reports in the times suggest the prime minister could use raf planes to take migrants to rwanda after the home office failed to find an airline that would charter the flights . the

would charter the flights. the prime minister has hailed today's inflation figures, saying they demonstrate his economic plan is working. figures show the rate of inflation has fallen to its lowest level in two and a half years, down to 3.2% in march, compared with 3.4% the month before. economists are saying a dip in food prices is the main reason for that slowdown . we've reason for that slowdown. we've been speaking to people in market bosworth in leicestershire to hear what they think. >> it's better than it going the other way , that's for sure, but other way, that's for sure, but i don't think it's going to make a difference to the man a massive difference to the man in the street. >> no, i haven't really noticed. i'm with my shopping. >> i know exactly what i buy every week, so i know what my bills are every week . bills are every week. >> and at this point in time, i haven't seen come down. haven't seen them come down. >> it doesn't really make any difference. is what it is. difference. it is what it is. >> people want more increase in wages. things have got to go up and i'm afraid they'll have to put up with it.

>> a 28 year old man convicted of attempting to murder two elderly worshippers in a mosque in what a judge described as horrific attacks, has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. mohammed aboukir , who has paranoid schizophrenia, threw petrol over his victims and set them alight outside mosques in birmingham and in london. the court heard that 82 year old hashi odowa and 70 year old mohammed riaz were chosen at random because obe believed they were possessed by evil spirits . sussex police has evil spirits. sussex police has formally apologised for its serious failings in the investigation into the murders of two nine year old girls, little nicola fellows and karen hadaway were sexually assaulted and strangled by paedophile russell bishop in woodland near brighton in 1986. the attacker was acquitted at the end of his first trial in 87, due to legal

weaknesses in the case and lies told by his girlfriend, who was later jailed for perjury . the later jailed for perjury. the sussex police force has also apologised for the wrongful arrest of nicola's father, barrie fellows , on the barrie fellows, on the international stage. the israeli prime minister has told lord cameron in no uncertain terms that israel will be making its own decisions about how to defend itself , as own decisions about how to defend itself, as global leaders plead for restraint over how it's going to respond to iranian attacks. over the weekend, the foreign secretary has been speaking with benjamin netanyahu following iranian missile and drone attacks. he says more can and should be done to sanction tehran. however, rishi sunak told his israeli counterpart significant escalation in the region is in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the middle east. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts , scan sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. carmelites .

to gb news. carmelites. >> thank you polly. now we've got absolutely loads to get through, so let's get weaving now. and nearly two years after then home secretary dame priti patel first announced the migrant deal with rwanda is the end. finally in sight? while mp5 are debating the bill right now as you can see live pictures on your screens there from the house of commons. and that's after the house of lords once again rejected it last night. this endless game of ping pong. and it's not even the olympics yet . when joined now by our yet. when joined now by our political editor christopher hope, who's live in westminster. chris, welcome to the show. so you earlier on were boorishly confident, very, very confident . confident, very, very confident. this will get the nod. this will go ahead and we will get those flights off the ground. what's the latest chris? >> this is democracy in real time. martin and hello from the house of commons. the historic westminster hall here in the palace of westminster. what you're seeing on screen there is

mp5 voting these four mp5 voting on these four amendments back to them by amendments put back to them by the house of lords. the house of lords is trying to change elements of the safety of rwanda bill, which the government thinks make for thinks will make it easier for lawyers challenge that act lawyers to challenge that act and stop flights taking off with migrants them. as soon as migrants on them. as soon as june. a5 migrants on them. as soon as june. as we heard from the former chief immigration officer at the border force, kevin saunders, on your show just an hour i can say that as we hour ago, i can say that as we sit here, two of the four amendments have gone back to the lords with majorities of 66. that clear majority in that that is a clear majority in that is the house of commons saying to peers house of lords, we to peers and house of lords, we will not accept what you're doing. primacy. we are doing. we have primacy. we are the elected chamber. you are not. so a majority of 66 for those two amendments, one to the lords are trying to make the government say that the only when the bill has due regard for international and domestic law, human rights and modern slavery, and secondly, that an independent body must say that rwanda is a safe country. both of those have been sent back

because the government would feel that become law, feel that had they become law, then those the modern slavery, human rights, issue of human rights, the issue of whether save country whether to save, save country that would allow lawyers to stop flights off. that bell flights taking off. that bell you're hearing now above me is the amendment, you're hearing now above me is the amendment , the voting on the the amendment, the voting on the fourth amendment. i will bring the result of the third as soon as i get it. but right now we are seeing the last the last gaspsi are seeing the last the last gasps i think the attempt to gasps i think of the attempt to stop the safety of rwanda bill. i the shortly i do expect the peers shortly to say as far as we can, say we've gone as far as we can, that bill will become law. and when that happens, i'll bring to bnng when that happens, i'll bring to bring that news to you straight away on gb news >> and chris, the lords may finally buckle. they they can see the direction of travel. a majority of 66 on both of those. probably not worth fighting just to remind viewers you have that bet with the prime minister. rishi sunak a single pint of beeh rishi sunak a single pint of beer. you bet that a flight wouldn't take off before the next general election . do you next general election. do you feel now, chris, that your beer might in danger ?

might be in danger? >> haha, of course the prime minister doesn't drink , so i'll minister doesn't drink, so i'll be drinking the beer. he always said i always thought there'd be no flights taking off before the election. back in september, which of course might have been a election. i think the a may 2nd election. i think the beer still safe. then we beer is still safe. then we heard kevin saunders, heard from kevin saunders, the former chief immigration officer from he said from the border force. he said to he , that he thinks to us, didn't he, that he thinks they will take off june. and they will take off in june. and i've checking my, my, my i've been checking my, my, my internet since last. speaking to martin at the spring ends martin june at the spring ends on the 21st, it is still on june the 21st, so it is still possible for the pm to hit his spnng possible for the pm to hit his spring target. according to kevin saunders , the former head kevin saunders, the former head of the force, the chief of the border force, the chief immigration officer okay, thanks. >> chris hope, live from westminster hall. course, westminster hall. of course, we'll to throughout we'll cut back to you throughout the for of the latest the show for all of the latest updates, i'm now joined in updates, but i'm now joined in the studio conservative the studio by the conservative life peer lord peter lillie. lord lillie, thank you for joining us. an absolute pleasure to company. well, you to have your company. well, you heard chris there, two heard it from chris there, two amendments back clear amendments sent back a clear majority of 66. know how majority of 66. you know how this you think now the this works. do you think now the laws will finally you laws will finally say, do you

know what? our point, know what? we made our point, but going to get through i >>i -- >> i think they will sometime today. but may two today. but we may have two rounds lord rounds today. they, lord anderson on the radio this morning said they were going to try again with the amendment, which says effectively the courts must have the final say on evidence as to whether or not rwanda is safe and they're making a big thing about this, even though for 18 years we had an act on the parliament of parliament, on the statute book introduced by blair, which introduced by tony blair, which said list countries said a whole list of countries were deemed to be safe and the courts couldn't challenge it. they made a murmur they never made a never a murmur about that . about all that. >> and now they're saying this is a huge matter of principle. >> any difference being, of course, the list countries course, the list of countries before all white countries before were all white countries is this is a country. so is this is a black country. so i think they're being somewhat racist concerns racist about their concerns about least because about safety, not least because rwanda has got 135,000 asylum seekers and refugees in it, already having a few hundred more from us. they're clearly capable of looking after them .

capable of looking after them. >> lordly though it has to be sad. it's taken two years and half £1 billion to get to this point. not a single asylum seeker has been flown to rwanda. and yet a report in today, the home office hasn't even procured an aeroplane . an air tanker an aeroplane. an air tanker apparently could now be taken an x or raf flight. but the rwandan airline have said that they won't do it. no, no charter airline will do it because of reputational damage . the reputational damage. the military themselves don't have the bandwidth. how can we spend half £1 billion? and how can we have gone two years down the line? and yet we don't have a craft to fly. these people away? >> i think the answer to that is the home office. i can remember even i was a minister, even when i was a minister, i was secretary state was secretary of for state social security. howard social security. michael howard was one of was the home secretary, one of the toughest, most the best, toughest, most brilliant had . brilliant ministers. we had. even he difficulty getting even he had difficulty getting the to do what the home office to do what it was supposed to do. and i think they've been dragging their they've just been dragging their feet. my suspicion. feet. that's my suspicion. i hope i'm wrong. hope it'll hope i'm wrong. i hope it'll turn they've got all the

turn out they've got all the preparations ready and things can rather than later. can go sooner rather than later. why do you mind? they ought to be to go to tomorrow be able to go to tomorrow morning. >> morning? e morning? m w" >> tomorrow morning? why do you think their think they're dragging their feet, because feet, lord liley? is it because they themselves opposed to they are themselves opposed to they are themselves opposed to the plan? >> i think an awful lot of people in the home office are opposed to it, and it's never been a department noted for its efficiency . efficiency. >> but nevertheless, you would like to see these flights leave tomorrow, as we said, kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer at border force. he thinks it could be as soon as june. but we've seen yesterday the lawyers licking their lips to pick holes in this , the mental health implications of the asylum seekers, the physical health of them being sent to a country. do you think this is in the hat or could we still feel with echoes of brexit, a wave of fresh attacks by the lawyers, the judiciary, the luvvies, the ngos, the lineker rights? is this battle over ? over? >> well, i fear you're right.

they will try and use every kind of loophole. and it is. it undermines ultimately respect for the law when the whole legal profession tries to manipulate the law to get a particular political result, rather than that which has been chosen democratically. so i hope they don't, but i fear they will, obviously the government tried to limit the scope for that, and that's why we're rejecting these amendments. but but remember, suella braverman and robert jenrick both thought that the bafic jenrick both thought that the basic bill, even unamended , basic bill, even unamended, contained enough opportunities for lawyers to do do their worst. i hope they're wrong . i worst. i hope they're wrong. i hope we will be able to get some flights off, not least because it's in the interests of potential refugees who might try and cross the channel dangerously risking their lives. so the sooner we can stop that, the better. >> could i read out a comment to you, lord lee, from one of our viewers. >> i think this is an important

point. marcus says this i voted for brexit. they didn't listen. the lords frustrated the will. i voted to control our borders. the lords don't listen. i'm wondering what's the point in voting any more. it's depressing to say things like that, but when people vote time and time again to get things done and we see this merry go round, this ping see this merry go round, this ping pong between the house of lords and the house of commons. admittedly, that's our system. it might not be the best, but it's our system . but people do, it's our system. but people do, you think are starting to lose faith. and that's a terrible shame. lord lilley. >> it would be a shame if, if the house of lords were to try and or succeed in wrecking and stopping and delaying this bill any further . the house of lords any further. the house of lords has only one legal power , one has only one legal power, one constitutional power, and that is to make the house of commons think again. i think its recommendations, proposed recommendations, its proposed amendments were, wrong. but it's told the house of commons to think again. the house of

commons has thought again several times, and by some midnight i think midnight tonight, i think will have the house of lords, have told the house of lords, thank you very much for your advice. we don't it. advice. we don't accept it. we're going ahead. so the elected house has primacy. democracy work. the house democracy does work. the house of lords can make a lot of sound and fury and it can offer very good advice. often when it does, when it's acting as a genuine revising chamber rather than a campaigning chamber, it's a good thing. when i was secretary of state security, they state for social security, they often to amend often had the temerity to amend my and i'd initially be my bills, and i'd initially be very but when i looked my bills, and i'd initially be ve the but when i looked my bills, and i'd initially be ve the amendments,hen i looked my bills, and i'd initially be ve the amendments, they looked my bills, and i'd initially be ve the amendments, they usually at the amendments, they usually wise i can't wise and sensible and i can't remember time when i rejected remember a time when i rejected them. now they're beginning them. but now they're beginning to campaign. it's a campaign to campaign. but it's a campaign they're lose because they're going to lose because they're going to lose because the house of commons has the ultimate power. >> and on that point, i've just heard the third amendment >> and on that point, i've just hea|been the third amendment >> and on that point, i've just hea|been votedthird amendment >> and on that point, i've just hea|been voted through endment >> and on that point, i've just hea|been voted through in dment >> and on that point, i've just hea|been voted through in the nt has been voted through in the commons. that's gone back down. yes sorry. yeah. it's gone back to the lords. and so therefore three quarters of the way there now to finish on the labour party saying that the

conservative party are flogging a dead horse, half £1 billion in no chance of many going on a total and utter waste of money, i guess, on the one point they would say that, wouldn't they? but do you think that they will have any answers if they're elected into power? okay. to criticise from the outside? >> well, they have made no alternatives, no alternatives have been put forward, although there cracked down there isn't. we'd cracked down on these people travellers. well we are, we spent hundreds of millions of pounds and the french police force and they're doing their best. but the only way deterrence. and it's way is deterrence. and it's interesting several other interesting that several other governments in europe are looking at what we're doing and proposing to do similar things. indeed, the danish government proposing to do similar things. indeedlooking nish government proposing to do similar things. indeedlooking evenjovernment proposing to do similar things. indeedlooking even before nent proposing to do similar things. indeedlooking even before wet began looking even before we did. so i think whoever is the next government is going to have to do something like this. and the sooner the better in the interests of humanity, as well as protecting our borders. >> superb, lord peter dodi, thank you so much joining us thank you so much forjoining us in on today's gb news in the studio on today's gb news martin daubney thank you.

martin daubney show. thank you. now 5:00, i'll be joined by now at 5:00, i'll be joined by a man who thinks the rwanda plan is a gimmick waste of time is a gimmick and a waste of time . and there's plenty of coverage on story right now on our on this story right now on our website gb com you've website, gb news. com you've helped the fastest helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country, so thank you very much. now, don't miss out on your chance win a £10,000 your chance to win a £10,000 greek cruise, a luxury travel bundle and a whopping ten grand in cold, hard, tax free cash . in cold, hard, tax free cash. it's our biggest prize of the year so far, and here's how you could hop on board with thanks to variety cruises is a family company sailing since 1942. >> you have the chance to win a £10,000 seven night small boat cruise for two with flights, meals, excursions and drinks included. you'll be able to choose from any one of their 2025 greek adventures and explore greece like never before. plus, you'll also win £10,000 in tax free cash to make your summer sizzle, and we'll pack you off with these luxury travel gifts for another chance

to win a prize worth over £20,000. text win to 63232. text cost £2 plus one standard network rate message , or post network rate message, or post your name and number to gb04. po box 8690 derby rd 192. uk only entrants must be 18 or over. lines closed at 5 pm. on the 26th of april. full terms and privacy notice @gbnews .com forward slash win. please check the closing time if listening or watching on demand. good luck . watching on demand. good luck. >> great stuff. now yesterday we covered the decision to shut down nigel farage at a conference in belgium . but today conference in belgium. but today the show has gone on. it's been hailed as a victory for free speech and will be live from the event. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

>> 2024 a battleground year. >> 2024 a battleground year. >> the year the nation decides . >> the year the nation decides. >> the year the nation decides. >> as the parties gear up their campaigns for the next general election. >> who will be left standing when the british people make one of biggest decisions of the biggest decisions of their lives ? their lives? >> who rise and who will fall? >> let's find out together for every moment. >> the the >> the highs, the lows, the twists turns, be with twists and turns, we'll be with you every step of you for every step of this journey 2024. gb news is journey in 2024. gb news is britain's election . britain's election. channel. >> welcome back. it's approaching 525. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now a big debate is going on right now at the scottish parliament, where the conservatives are calling on to back their calling on msps to back their motion on repealing the hate crime act and across live to scotland to get the full story a little later in the show . now to little later in the show. now to what's being hailed as a victory for free speech and the national conservatism conference in brussels has resumed today after

a belgian court overturned a local mayor's decision to close it down yesterday . and the it down yesterday. and the court's ruling came shortly after belgium's prime minister, alexander de croo, condemned mayor amicia's decision to send police in to shut down the conference yesterday. nigel farage has been at that conference and he spoke on breakfast where he declared they'd won against the people who opposed the events going ahead. >> eamonn, i can tell you in the room, you know, we had members of european royal families, we had distinguished academics , we had distinguished academics, we had distinguished academics, we had businessmen, business women. i mean, this was this actually was quite an intellectual gathering of people . i can't gathering of people. i can't think of a more peaceful group of people to be in a room with. the whole thing was a nonsense. they wanted to shut down free speech. i'm speech. they tried. but i'm pleased we've won and i'm pleased to say we've won and i'm heading off to the conference again. now, the conference will continue . continue. >> great. see nigel back in brussels causing trouble. and

let's cross to brussels now and join our reporter, charlie peters. charlie welcome to the show. well, they tried and they failed to close it down yesterday. in fact, now the mayor and his cronies might find themselves up before the beak. tell us more . tell us more. >> well, last night, the director of the think tank that's putting on this event, frank furedi, said that the mood in his team was defiant. there was a no surrender attitude and that this event was going to go ahead. one way or another. they said that they had a plan b venue lined up. it's worth remembering that this event, the claridge venue, was only put on by a tunisian businessman at the last minute after two previous venues had cancelled after political pressure was put on them . he stood firm even after them. he stood firm even after them. he stood firm even after the mayor's orders yesterday to shut down the event and that defiance has come through today. day two of the conference has gone ahead despite all of that pressure. yesterday, when the

order went through from the local mayor, emily carver, who said there was a threat to pubuc said there was a threat to public safety by the national conservative conference going ahead. well, i to say today ahead. well, i have to say today i've sat through some talks by conservative philosophers, theologian and ministers. not exactly the sort of atmosphere you anticipate a threat to safety with, but it went ahead peacefully and we did not see many of the protesters who had threatened to turn up, as they did last night. and all of this was achieved on the back of a successful legal challenge that came back at 2:30 am. this morning. that's how late . it morning. that's how late. it took for them to know that they could put on this conference today. well, amid all of this controversy, spoke people controversy, i spoke to people in earlier today in brussels earlier today to ask them what they think about them what did they think about them what did they think about the to shut down the mayor's orders to shut down the mayor's orders to shut down the country? the event in a free country? >> say >> and everybody can say whatever wants ? do you think whatever he wants? do you think that if i don't agree with them, but we are a free country, so that's what i can say.

>> do you think he made a mistake then, to make that order? >> yes. i think he made a mistake. yeah it's not even a democracy if i can't say what i want to say. we are not in a democracy anymore, that they should have done is not good. >> not no it's not good. >> not good? no it's not good. they should have keep it like this because the mayor was against it. >> but there is no reason. because everybody has his opinion. >> why why shut it down? >> so why, why why shut it down? >> so why, why why shut it down? >> actually, here in belgium, we have like, a censorship , like we have like, a censorship, like we call it the cordon sanitaire , call it the cordon sanitaire, which actually means that the far right parties are forbidden in the, news media's. yeah. sorry for my english. it's really bad. >> so. >> so. >> yeah, i have seen, like, 1 or 2 videos of it, with the police and with the, member of the flemish parliament, right wing extremists. yeah. and with them more. but i don't have any further information about.

>> well, i did also speak to one person who that they were person who said that they were in shutting down the in favour of shutting down the conference, but couldn't get conference, but we couldn't get them but if that them on camera. but if that commentator had had their way and had not gone and this event had not gone ahead today . we would have ahead today. we would have missed out on a keynote address from the prime minister of hungary, viktor orban. also, an address from the former prime minister other minister of poland. among other panels discussions panels and discussions taking place many at the event place. many people at the event were glad to be here, were very glad to be here, having faced down those threats from the police ordered by the local mayor yesterday. but they all asked one question why did so few eu leaders come out in support of their conference and against what they described as a blatant act of censorship? why was it only the prime minister of belgium, who issued a statement against that move? rishi sunak also made a statement and we heard from giorgia meloni as well at the event. but otherwise there's been a very little and limited commentary from eu leaders. >> charlie peters, an excellent

summary of what's been going on in brussels. and in fact, yesterday we had on the show one of those flemish meps. he told me this kind of censorship has been going on actually for decades, he said, against the flemish meps who of course want independence from belgium and certainly from the european union. so this is nothing new. but once again, they meddled with the wrong man they with the wrong man when they barraged with the wrong man when they barragethanks joining us peters, thanks for joining us live well don't live from brussels. well don't go because they debate go anywhere because they debate is right the is going on right now at the scottish parliament. and that is about hate crime bill. will about the hate crime bill. will that be repealed? the conservatives are leading that debate. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines. >> the top stories this hour. let's bring you up to date with events in the house of commons today where we know mp5 have

been the government's been debating the government's flagship migration policy, the rwanda you that flagship migration policy, the rwar have you that flagship migration policy, the rwar have rejected you that flagship migration policy, the rwar have rejected all you that flagship migration policy, the rwar have rejected all ofyu that flagship migration policy, the rwar have rejected all of the1at mp5 have rejected all of the latest amendments to that bill, made by peers the upper made by peers in the upper chamber. the legislation will now head back to the lords, though we don't yet know where the peers will attempt to re amend once again. downing amend it once again. downing street wants to get that bill, which declares rwanda a safe country and stops appeals from asylum being sent there asylum seekers being sent there on safety grounds. past this week and flights off the ground very soon. also in the news, the prime minister has hailed today's inflation figures, saying they demonstrate his economic working for. economic plan is working for. figures show the rate of inflation has fallen to its lowest level in two and a half years, down 3.2% in march. years, down to 3.2% in march. that's compared to 3.4% the month before. economists are saying a dip in food prices is the main reason for the slowdown , and sussex police has had to formally apologise for serious failings in its investigation into the murders of two little girls in the 805. nine year old

nicola fellows and karen hadaway were sexually assaulted and strangled by a paedophile, russell bishop , near brighton in russell bishop, near brighton in 1986. the attacker was acquitted at the end of his first trial in 1987, due to legal weaknesses in the case and lies as well told by his ex—girlfriend , who was by his ex—girlfriend, who was later jailed for perjury. the sussex police force has also apologised for the wrongful arrest of nicola's father, barry fellows , and the israeli prime fellows, and the israeli prime minister has been telling lord cameron today that israel will make its own decisions about how to defend itself as global leaders plea for restraint against iran . the foreign against iran. the foreign secretary has been speaking with benjamin netanyahu following iranian missile and drone attacks at the weekend. he says more and can should be done to sanction tehran . however, rishi sanction tehran. however, rishi sunak told his israeli counterpart in a telephone call yesterday a significant escalation in the region is in no one's interest and would only deepen insecurity in the middle east. those are the top stories .

east. those are the top stories. for more, sign up to gb news alerts or scan the qr code on your screen and go to gb news. com slash alerts . com slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now we've got some breaking news on that rwanda vote. i'm joined by our political editor, christopher hope.chns political editor, christopher hope. chris who's in westminster hall. latest ? hall. chris, what's the latest? >> martin. that's right. welcome to back to westminster hall here in the houses of parliament. so those four amendments to the safety of rwanda bill have been sent back by the house of commons to the house of lords. all now on the house of all eyes now on the house of lords now, sources in the house of lords tell me peers, the of lords tell me that peers, the holdouts want to try and holdouts who want to try and weaken the safety of rwanda bill before it becomes law, are going to look to try and amend it again for a fourth time. and we don't know how, whether it's two amendments or all of them , we're amendments or all of them, we're not sure which they're going to pick on. but if that is passed

again by the peers today, it could go back to the commons again tonight for another attempt to ram through. and attempt to ram it through. and tory and mp5 on the tory mp5 and mp5 on the government pretty government side are pretty unhappy having hang unhappy about having to hang around for but it may around for this. but it may carry through another. more carry on through another. more iterations this how they do iterations. this is how they do democracy this country. not democracy in this country. not all, not all the time that we get chance to look it get a chance to look at it closely @gbnews. but the importance of this safety of rwanda important to rwanda bill is so important to the attempt to stop the government's attempt to stop illegal migration. we're giving a but it's likely, a lot of focus, but it's likely, it seems, from sources in the lords, speak , that that at lords, as i speak, that that at least two of amendments least two of those amendments might and sent back might be voted on and sent back to commons. it's not over to the commons. it's not over yet . yet. >> thank you, chris, for that update. quick recap all four amendments sent back to the house of lords. two are expected at least to be challenged. the game of ping pong will continue into the now. more into the night now. plenty more to bring that in just a to bring you on that in just a moment, please don't go moment, so please don't go anywhere.

welcome back. it's 438. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb martin daubney, and this is gb news now. campaigners fighting for victims of financial misconduct or taking their battle to the heart of government. today, the enough is enough march for justice government. today, the enough is enough march forjustice is descending on the houses of parliament. let's cross live now to our reporter adam cherry, who's at that march? adam, what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> that's right. martin, i'm here outside the houses of parliament right now. we've been on a bit of a whistle stop tour of central london today. so the victims and the campaigners are about to arrive behind me in in parliament square . at the moment parliament square. at the moment they're outside hmrc in downing street campaigning for what they describe as a collective issue . describe as a collective issue. it's not just one specific type of fraud or abuse. they say. this is a collective problem from pension scams, investment scams , abuse from the financial

scams, abuse from the financial bodies themselves like hmrc. scams, abuse from the financial bodies themselves like hmrc . and bodies themselves like hmrc. and they want to. they want to shine a light on this publicly and they're campaigning for a statutory public inquiry. they in a way they compare this to the subpostmasters scandal. they think it's that big. so i spoke to the leader of this march, andy agathangelou, and this is what he had to say to me earlier today. take a look at this. >> this is so important, adam, because today's meeting isn't about any one individual campaign organisation. what makes this wonderful gathering different is that everybody has learned that individually, the campaign groups are not strong enough. we're all coming together. we all know that enoughis together. we all know that enough is enough , and that's why enough is enough, and that's why we're doing what we're doing today. we're campaigning for justice. specifically, we're campaigning who've campaigning for people who've been a direct been harmed as a direct consequence of financial misconduct. regulatory failure, egregious misconduct by various institutions . and enough is institutions. and enough is enough, adam, we're here to try and sort it out.

>> so some really moving stories, which i've heard on the march today , andy described one march today, andy described one particular instance with a man called ian. ian was a member of this campaign group, and unfortunately a few months ago he took his own life after he lost all his money to one of these scams. he was a lawnmower repairman, you know, not a footballer or some sort of high profile individual. although there are some of those here today, it's a story of the common man and woman suffering as much as it is those with a lot of cash, and they're actually carrying a coffin representing those who've lost their lives to suicide from these sort of scams to parliament as we speak. hopefully at some point shortly we'll see them. so a big scandal brewing here, martin. and i think something that will be very interesting for our viewers to understand. the scale of it . to understand. the scale of it. >> thank you. adam cherry, a moving report there from the

enoughis moving report there from the enough is enough march people power on the people's channel. thank you, adam cherry. now the man who attempted to murder two elderly men by setting them on fire as they left separate mosques, has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. mohammed abacha, nearly killed hasher oduah and mohammed riaz outside mosques last year. jack carson has this exclusive report. >> two men doused in petrol and set alight 82 year old hashi odowa and 70 year old mohammed riaz had just attended prayers when mohammed akua attempted to murder them on their way home. originally from sudan, abacha came to the uk seeking asylum in 2017 and was granted leave to remain in 2019. in february last yeah remain in 2019. in february last year, he attempted to kill mr odowa as he made his way to a neighbour's car outside the west eaung neighbour's car outside the west ealing islamic centre in west london. in this footage, released by west midlands police, abco is seen following the 82 year old leaving the mosque. he engages in

conversation before pouring petrol on him from a water bottle and setting it alight. dufing bottle and setting it alight. during the trial, birmingham crown heard how the 29 crown court heard how the 29 year old sudanese man told mr odowa i swear in the name of allah, in the name of god you will know me. a month later, 70 year old mohammed riaz suffered serious burns, particularly to his head, in a second attack by abacha, this time near a mosque. abacha, this time near a mosque. a hundred miles away in edgbaston. in march . mr riaz was edgbaston. in march. mr riaz was followed for more than five minutes after leaving the prayer hall of birmingham's dudley road mosque . cctv shows abacha within mosque. cctv shows abacha within feet of him as they passed a canbbean feet of him as they passed a caribbean food store. there's a confrontation between the two. a 70 year old riaz pushes abacha back in an attempt to get him to leave him alone. like his previous , abacha takes previous attack, abacha takes a clear plastic bottle from a rucksack, pours petrol on his coat and sets it on fire. in this photo released by the riaz family, the extent of the injuries can be seen just 24 hours after the attack. evidence

collected by west midlands police shows how badly his clothes were burnt . chief clothes were burnt. chief inspector haroon chugtai, of birmingham describes the attacks. >> these were horrific, unprovoked attacks on men in their 705 and 805. >> these are two men who had left their mosques after their prayers very close to ramadan, starting so you can understand the tensions and the fears in the tensions and the fears in the wider muslim community. >> you can see from the cctv that these attacks planned. that these attacks were planned. you the screams of you can hear from the screams of mr , which were caught on mr riaz, which were caught on cctv, that he must have been in indescribable pain. >> have been left >> the victims have been left with injuries and with lasting injuries and significant mental trauma. i'd like to thank them and their families for the courage that they've and the support they've shown and the support that us that they've provided to us throughout ordeal. that they've provided to us thr(during: ordeal. that they've provided to us thr(during the ordeal. that they've provided to us thr(during the trialaal. that they've provided to us thr(during the trial ,1l. that they've provided to us thr(during the trial , the court >> during the trial, the court heard psychiatrists who heard from psychiatrists who said suffering said mohammed akua was suffering from schizophrenia at from paranoid schizophrenia at the attacks . the 29 the time of the attacks. the 29 year believed people year old believed the people he had were among had set on fire were among several controlling him through magic. jurors deliberated for more than seven hours over two days, having been asked to consider whether abacha should be not guilty by reason of

be found not guilty by reason of insanity. in the end, he was found guilty of attempted murder and after sentencing. today, the victims families victims and their families finally have justice jack carson gb news. >> okay, let's cross live now to jack carson jack, a heinous and premeditated set of attacks. yet abacha was handed an a hospital order and not sent to prison. why is that? >> well, there was lots for the judge in this sentencing today to consider . judge in this sentencing today to consider. we heard from one of the clinicians that's currently looking after abacha, as he was already been reprimanded in a mental a secure mental hospital undergoing treatment for his schizophrenia. now, we heard from that clinician about his belief that a hospital order was the right course of action for the sentence because of the level of schizophrenia that abacha is currently, being treated for . currently, being treated for. they don't still know yet. we heard in court today whether he

might actually be treatment resistant and have a treatment resistant and have a treatment resistant form of schizophrenia. he will have to undergo an extensive course of therapy and also more , extreme, doses of also more, extreme, doses of treatment. and so the best way in order to ensure that that treatment could be administered, in the judge's view, in sentencing today was through a hospital order given a custodial sentence. there was risks about the risks to prison staff , to the risks to prison staff, to also other other inmates as well. and also the fact that under the mental health act, the treatment can't be forced in a custodial sentence, whereas treatment can be properly administered throughout a hospital order. now this is an indefinite hospital order. there is no length, particularly on this sentence. but the judge did say that it's highly likely he will require lifelong treatment for his illness. >> okay. thank you. jack carson live from birmingham crown court . now, just 16 days after the scottish hate crime act came

into law, the conservatives are calling on msps to scrap it. there's a live debate going on right now on martin daubney, on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 449. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, the scottish conservative are calling on msps to back their motion on repealing the country's hate crime act. live pictures on your screen. you can see the debate is going on right now at holyrood. and first minister humza yousaf, a strongly backed the law and accused opponents of spreading misinformation about it. well, joining us now is the academic and the author doctor heather brunskill evans. welcome to the show, heather. so the debate is going on as we speak, 16 days old, nearly 8000 complaints have been filed .

complaints have been filed. what's your take on this on this law ? law? >> well, i think it's a very dangerous law and i think it should be repealed, the trouble with the law is that what is hate is dependent on the person who's experiencing it. >> there isn't an objective test for it . so, for example, i could for it. so, for example, i could be accused of being hateful if l, be accused of being hateful if i, for example , say, what i'm i, for example, say, what i'm going to say now is that i don't think that we should call men who identify as women, trans women. i think we should dispense with the terms completely because it obfuscates or hides the fact that , trans or hides the fact that, trans women are in fact, men. now, i don't mean that in a hateful way. i'm i'm talking about biological reality, and i'm attempting to protect women and children. but somebody might might perceive that as being hateful or bigoted, transphobic

and that i want to erase them and that i want to erase them and deny them of their rights, which isn't the case. but who is? who is to interpret what i say, the police begin to interpret what i say, and adjudicate as to whether i'm expressing hate or not. then we're going to live in a very dangerous society. >> and heather, of course, jk rowling has tested this law on precisely the same lines you just mentioned elon musk, of course, the owner of x formerly twitter, has also been very critical. but of course, humza yousaf and the snp, they say these laws are important. they are well meaning they are designed to eradicate hate and protect people . do you think protect people. do you think there's a well—meaning notion at heart, or do you believe the entire thing is simply flawed and should go? i think both, i think, i think i'm sure it's well—meaning , but i think it's

well—meaning, but i think it's entirely flawed. >> the trouble with the, well, meaningfulness of it is that people who think that it's progressive can't actually hear the dangers. it doesn't matter how many times you explain the dangers to them. they can't. they can't , apparently hear that they can't, apparently hear that there are any dangers with it. the trouble with this is, and women have been predicting this for years and years and years , for years and years and years, that the more we attempt to be inclusive and kind and generous, which is wonderful, i, i, i'm all in support of that, is that it's actually having the opposite effect. it's actually discriminating more so than against women and children for example. so in a reverse kind of way, it's protecting a tiny, tiny group and discriminating against a much, much larger groups in the population. it has the reverse effect . the reverse effect. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us on the show. that's

the academic and author doctor, heather brunskill evans on the hate crime bill being repealed. and that debate happening as we speak in holyrood. now, i've had loads of your essays . you've loads of your essays. you've been getting in touch throughout the and the topic that's been getting in touch throughout the got and the topic that's been getting in touch throughout the got you the topic that's been getting in touch throughout the got you going pic that's been getting in touch throughout the got you going todayat's been getting in touch throughout the got you going today is; really got you going today is that george's flag that's that saint george's flag that's been on the council been unfurled on the council house in nottingham market house in nottingham and market square , my home city, and square, my home city, and there's been an outbreak of patriotism amongst you out there. let's read out a few of your comments. dennis says this all councils should take a leaf out of nottingham's example and also fly the saint george's flag. well done, nottingham , flag. well done, nottingham, martin, not me, says this as a nottingham lad myself, it makes me so proud to see the flag of saint george proudly displayed in our city. pity the parade will not go ahead, but our city readers , readers like the 23rd readers, readers like the 23rd of april, like no one else. martin. and we spoke to natalie fahey, the editor of nottingham live, early on, who broke this

story , and she said, there's story, and she said, there's normally a parade in nottingham market square this year. apparently that's been that's been pulled back to been pulled back due to escalating costs. but nevertheless, flag, nevertheless, that flag, believed biggest in believed to be the biggest in the land, 62 foot by 18 foot, majestically there and normally on that council house, there are pride flags, trans progress flags, black history month flags, black history month flags, disability awareness and visibility flags, you name it. ukrainian flags. visibility flags, you name it. ukrainian flags . they're always ukrainian flags. they're always there. but what a majestic sight to see that flag ahead of saint george's day. now don't go anywhere in the next hour we'll be discussing all the things rwanda and rainer. but for now, it's for your weather with it's time for your weather with alex deakin. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your

latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. going to be a cold one tonight where we have the clearest spells we could see some pockets of frost, a fair few showers still around this evening, some quite heavy ones over eastern england, grey and damp over pembrokeshire, devon and cornwall. that rain should clear away . we'll keep some showers away. we'll keep some showers going the but for going over the east, but for many will be dry with the many it will be dry and with the clearer skies over southern scotland, and scotland, northwest england and wales, are wales, that's where we are likely to a touch of frost. likely to see a touch of frost. certainly countryside, certainly in the countryside, many and will just many towns and cities will just about freezing, but about hover above freezing, but it is going to be a fairly cold start to thursday . most will start to thursday. most will have a dry and a bright start though some sunshine. could though with some sunshine. could be over kent be some shower clouds over kent early certainly be early on. they'll certainly be some rain coming into the highlands and the western isles, and spreads most of and that spreads across most of scotland. lunchtime, scotland. by lunchtime, the north east of northern north and east of northern ireland likely to see a little bit of rain at times as well. and rain will spread into and that rain will spread into northern england, north northern england, maybe north wales, of the day. northern england, maybe north wal

stays dry. a fine day for east anglia the london area. 15 anglia and the london area. 15 possible but elsewhere it possible here, but elsewhere it will cooler as the will be turning cooler as the cloud and the rain moves in. getting windy again through the day another on day and another breezy day on friday mixture of friday with a mixture of sunshine and showers. generally a grey start in the south, perhaps brightening little perhaps brightening up a little bit of the showers bit with most of the showers across central and eastern parts. day for scotland parts. drier day for scotland and ireland, not and northern ireland, but not much temperatures in some much warmer temperatures in some places. single figures and even in south into teens , but in the south into the teens, but feeling colder the breeze. feeling colder with the breeze. bye . bye for now. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boiler boilers, sponsors

well -- well . well. >> a very good afternoon to you all. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. coming up yet more ping pong for the government's plan to deport illegal migrants to rwanda. mp5 have now rejected

all four amendments recommended by the house of lords, meaning peers will once again vote on whether to give the bill the green light . whether to give the bill the green light. groundhog day once again, labour's deputy leader angela rayner is facing multiple investigations into her tax affairs and the sale of her council house, police say there's a clear public interest to investigate, but as it turning now into a witch hunt, a later in the hour, we'll speak to the daughter in law of retired nurse paula dawson, who tragically died in a hospital after her hospital notes were mixed up with a man aged 90, whose notes read do not resuscitate , mate. and resuscitate, mate. and apparently king charles is planning to have 2000 solar panels installed on the sandringham estate. he called himself an eco warrior. is this environmental destruction or forward thinking? green energy planning? well, that's all coming up in your next hour.

once a show. always a pleasure to have your company. well it's been sent back to the lords once again. the rwanda bill. yet more ping again. the rwanda bill. yet more ping pong. more ping pong than the paris olympics. and still we don't have a result . the paris olympics. and still we don't have a result. this one could go late into the night. you have any faith that a single flight will take off any time soon before the next general election? kevin saunders , the election? kevin saunders, the chief immigration officer at border force, he told us that he does believe flights will take off perhaps as soon as june. do you have any faith in this bill? do you think anybody will ever get flown to rwanda? please send me your views. we've already had hundreds of them, but i want more. send those comments in and post them by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay get stuck in. this is your show. that's all coming up. but first it's your

latest news headlines and it's time for polly middleton first. >> martin, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom today is that mp5 have rejected all amendments to the rwanda bill suggested by the house of lords . suggested by the house of lords. the rejected legislation will now the upper now head back to the upper chamber , though we don't yet chamber, though we don't yet know whether peers will attempt to re amend it once again. downing street wants to get the bill, which declares rwanda a safe country and stops appeals by migrants, passed this by illegal migrants, passed this week, with flights getting off the within weeks . and the ground within weeks. and we're just hearing that labour peers back two amendments peers will back two amendments tonight in the lords, we're told voting expected there from 6:00 this evening. full details here on gb news. if those amendments pass , mp5 will consider them on pass, mp5 will consider them on monday . in other news today, sir monday. in other news today, sir keir starmer has accused the prime minister of dodging questions over cutting nhs

funding and state pension funding and state pension funding to cover the cost of eventually scrapping national insurance. speaking during prime minister's question time today, the labour leader criticised the conservatives for what he called their obsession with wild, unfunded tax cuts . but rishi unfunded tax cuts. but rishi sunak fought back, telling the commons it's always the same with labour, with higher taxes and working people paying the price. and the prime minister hailed today's inflation figures, saying they demonstrate his economic plan is working. figures show the rate of inflation has fallen to its lowest level in two and a half years. it's down to 3.2% in march. that's compared to 3.4% the month before . economists are the month before. economists are telling us a dip in food prices is the main reason for that slowdown. we've been speaking to people in market bosworth in leicestershire to hear what they think. >> it's better than it going the other way. that's for sure, but i don't think it's going to make a massive difference to the man

in the street. >> no, i haven't really noticed. i'm with my shopping. i know exactly what i buy every week, so i know what my bills are every week. and at this point in time, i haven't seen them come down. >> it doesn't really make any difference. it is what it is. >> people want more increase in wages. things have got to go up and i'm afraid they'll have to put up with it . put up with it. >> in other news, today, a 28 year old man convicted of attempting to murder two elderly worshippers in mosques in what a judge described as a horrific attack has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. mohammad ahmed akua, who has paranoid schizophrenia , threw paranoid schizophrenia, threw petrol over his victims and set them alight outside mosques in birmingham and london, the court heard 82 year old hashem, odawa and 70 year old mohammed riaz were chosen at random because akua believed they were possessed by evil spirits.

mohammad riaz said his father's attacker should have been sent to prison to face the maximum. >> tum mohammed upkar, who set my father on fire. >> he's not going to serve a prison sentence, but he's going to be going to a hospital, probably get served a three course meal and have an evening cup of tea, whereas he should be in a prison, you know, facing, you know , maximum, maximum you know, maximum, maximum punishment, especially setting two people on fire in two main cities of the united kingdom. >> you're talking about london and birmingham. i mean, how could this happen ? could this happen? >> the boss of the post office has been exonerated following an independent investigation into allegations of bullying. nick read always rejected claims of misconduct , read always rejected claims of misconduct, but the firm read always rejected claims of misconduct , but the firm says he misconduct, but the firm says he has its full backing now to lead the organisation, which continues to fall under the scrutiny over the horizon it scandal, during which hundreds of subpostmasters were wrongly convicted of theft . sussex

convicted of theft. sussex police has formally had to apologise for serious failings in its investigation into the murders of two nine year old girls in the 19805, nicola fellows and karen hadaway were sexually assaulted and strangled by paedophile russell bishop in woodland near brighton in 1986. the attacker was acquitted at the end of his first trial in 87 due to legal weaknesses in the case, as well as lies told by his ex—girlfriend . and his ex—girlfriend. and meanwhile, paedophiles convicted of serious sexual offences could lose their parental rights over their children. a proposed law could mean that offenders are stopped from being able to decide where their children go to school, as well as important health and travel choices. only the serious sexual offences the most serious sexual offences rape of a child under 13, for example, would be covered under the new rule. but labour mp harriet harman says the rule could extended to cover less could be extended to cover less serious sexual offences against children future . and one

children in the future. and one update for you on international news. the israeli prime minister has told lord cameron that israel will make its own decisions about how to defend itself as global leaders plead for restraint over how is for restraint over how israel is going respond to those going to respond to those iranian drone attacks. at the weekend, foreign secretary weekend, the foreign secretary has been speaking with benjamin netanyahu, those netanyahu, following those strikes. he says more and can should be done to sanction tehran. rishi sunak has also been telling his israeli counterpart last evening that significant escalation is in no one's interest, and would only deepen insecurity in the middle east. that is your updated news bulletin for you. for the very latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now or go to gbnews.com/alerts . gbnews.com/alerts. >> thank you polly. now we've got loads to get through so let's get cracking and we start with some big news that we broke

in the last hour. and mp5 have rejected all four of the lords amendments to the rwanda bill. but now we're hearing of a major possible setback for rishi sunak. and let's cross now to our political editor, chris hope, in westminster, who has all the details. chris what's the breaking news? >> yeah, martin, it's getting more and more complicated, but that's the nature of our parliamentary process. of course, heard earlier, course, as you heard earlier, those amendments by the those four amendments by the house lords to the safety of house of lords to the safety of rwanda bill, they went back to the of lords. now i'm the house of lords. now i'm heanng the house of lords. now i'm hearing on extremely good authority from labour authority from senior labour figures that labour will force a vote on two of those four amendments from lords hope and lord brown. one of the amendments would force the government to not send migrants arriving here who had arriving here legally who had fought with uk forces in, in in afghanistan . they would not be afghanistan. they would not be sent to rwanda. the other amendment they're looking at, at pushing back onto the government is a requirement ensure that is a requirement to ensure that rwanda is a safe country and is said be so monitoring ,

said to be so by monitoring, monitoring committee. that's lords brown lords hope and that's lord brown . now, peers will vote after 6 pm. on that. if crossbenchers support the labour peers , it's support the labour peers, it's likely these two amendments will go back to the commons on monday, not tomorrow. a5 government whips have been planning for weeks. so rather than tomorrow, the rwanda bill becoming law, it could go into next week. it could mean this thing is dragging on and on and it could threaten that deadline of the spring deadline set by rishi for those first rishi sunak. for those first flights taking off. we heard earlier former border earlier from that former border force officer he thinks it could be june . well, that could be be in june. well, that could be under threat. if this happens, it's all to play for. we'll keep you abreast of all the developments on gb news and chris, we suspected there'd be. not that there would still be late drama on this. we haven't even got yet to the supreme court. we haven't even got to the stage where the lawyers get involved. and i know i mentioned brexit every single time, chris, but the i have the wounds i have the scars. and this is what

happens. and here we go again. so it could be pushed into next week. the conservatives were starting to do a bit of a victory lap, but here we go again. it's been snatched away. chris that's right. chris hope that's right. >> and there are rumours that there might been a victory there might have been a victory press conference tomorrow by the prime and maybe the prime minister and maybe the home secretary, james cleverly, that will kicked the that will be kicked into the long grass if this carries on over weekend. it's not what over the weekend. it's not what number 10 were expecting. again, we're we'll bring we're not there yet. we'll bring you as soon as we get you the news as soon as we get it live gb news. voting is it live on gb news. voting is expected the house of lords. expected in the house of lords. i expect of four i fully expect two of the four amendments try amendments that the peers try to push the commons. all push back on the commons. all four rejected two of those four. the going to and the peers are going to try and stick we'll and see. stick by. we'll wait and see. it'll be quite a dramatic night here parliament. here in parliament. >> chris from >> thanks, chris from westminster of course westminster hall. and of course we'll you for the we'll cross back to you for the latest it happens. but latest news as it happens. but until then i'm joined in the studio by the political commentator andi mack . donald commentator andi mack. donald andy as chris hope broke that news you were. you were news there you were. you were sniggering away. and i sense that's because this is

completely expected. >> yeah, well, it's just a bit ridiculous, really, isn't it? >> you know, the rwanda bill has been described by as a gimmick by, you know, prime minister rishi sunak, the bloke who's really now, and the really pushing it now, and the fact labour peers are going fact that labour peers are going to start revolution to apparently start a revolution in the in the lords, where it was expected that the lords were just going to give up and let this die, is really kind of testament to how much this rwanda bill is contested. >> even people >> i mean, even the people that support of dealing support the idea of dealing with illegal migration aren't in favour this rwanda anymore. >> and let's just remind >> and let's let's just remind ourselves is all for 200 ourselves this is all for 200 spaces a plane. spaces on a plane. >> this isn't a permanent solution to the migration crisis. is for 200 places on >> this is for 200 places on a plane. >> kevin saunders from border force earlier on, he said that we need this deterrent, something like rwanda has to be in place. he thinks this can be effective. the big question, though, of course, is and the we haven't got to the supreme court yet. we haven't got to the stage of the ngos, the charities, the

establishment. taking this on, even if it limps through the lords. the battle's just beginning , lords. the battle's just beginning, isn't it? yeah. >> mean, absolutely, know, >> i mean, absolutely, you know, in and november of last in october and november of last yeah in october and november of last year, the supreme court decreed that unlawful. that it was unlawful. >> the rwanda plan was unlawful, that safe third country. >> and even if this bill does get passed somehow, if there is a miracle for rishi sunak and it does get pushed through the lords and the commons, it just because , you know, the ngos, the because, you know, the ngos, the lawyers, the supreme court will all it because all stand against it because there serious questions there are serious questions about rwanda about whether or not rwanda is a safe country. there safe third country. there are perfectly safe third country. there are per but.y it also does go back >> but then it also does go back to that thing. >> i hate to harp on about it, but it is only 200 spaces plane. >> you know, we have 200 people come across couple of days. come across in a couple of days. this a significant this isn't a significant deterrent. with deterrent. i agree with the principle deterrent stop principle of a deterrent to stop people illegally, people coming over illegally, but a real but it has to be a real deterrent, not oh , just, there's deterrent, not oh, just, there's 200 spaces. >> pointing out, >> it's worth pointing out, though, that back in the though, andy, that back in the day, a certain tony day, tony blair, a certain tony blair entertained the idea of offshore containment and processing in africa. in fact, the current labour regime has

talked about a potential deal with a country such as turkey or greece or others. and so the idea of processing offshore isn't, you know, isn't off the cards for the labour party. the big question is it's to okay say this isn't going to work. it's okay to say we're going to vote this down. but what will the labour party do instead? >> well, think if i if i knew >> well, i think if i if i knew the answer, i'd be working for yvette cooper. the answer, i'd be working for yvebutzoopeh the answer, i'd be working for yvebut i'm er. the answer, i'd be working for yvebut i'm sure that the answer, i'd be working for yve but i'm sure that yvette >> but i'm sure that yvette cooper's team looking cooper's policy team are looking across of legal options. across a range of legal options. >> i think of >> i think the idea of a processing unit in france has been with a few been flirted with by quite a few on progressive left . i think on the progressive left. i think it is really interesting to see that the election is that as the general election is ticking closer and closer. what the official manifesto position will the will be by yvette cooper in the shadow home team. >> there's also, course, >> and there's also, of course, been rumours contra deal been rumours of a contra deal with european union . that with the european union. that would mean if we were allowed to return to the eu or any other nafion return to the eu or any other nation where it required going through eu member states, there will be a reciprocal deal and that was voted, that was voted against in the european union

last week. poland went rogue on that. so did hungary. last week. poland went rogue on that. so did hungary . and the that. so did hungary. and the political groundswell is against this kind of reciprocal deal with the european union. but that seems to be something that the labour party is entertaining. >> well, obviously it's in our interest to make a deal with mainland about the people mainland europe about the people coming from mainland europe. it's interests of it's not in the interests of mainland europe to try and prevent mainland prevent people leaving mainland europe, think europe, obviously. so i think it's surprise that the eu it's not a surprise that the eu aren't a fan trying to aren't a big fan of trying to cap the amount of people legally who leave france, who can leave france, but i think it is important that keir starmer made it clear that starmer has made it clear that we rejoin the starmer has made it clear that we under rejoin the starmer has made it clear that we under a rejoin the starmer has made it clear that we under a labour rejoin the starmer has made it clear that we under a labour government, eu under a labour government, but think important to but i think it is important to have those close to have have those close ties, to have those with very, those relationships with very, very close neighbours. >> deal with brussels >> a close a deal with brussels if get power, that if labour get in power, that remains seen. thanks for remains to be seen. thanks for joining in studio. andy joining us in the studio. andy macdonald , always pleasure. macdonald, always a pleasure. now on now let's get the latest on labour's deputy leader angela rayneh labour's deputy leader angela rayner. and it's being reported that least dozen greater that at least a dozen greater manchester police officers are involved investigating involved in investigating multiple allegations. now miss rayner denies any wrongdoing.

but i'm asking today with country experiencing a knife crime epidemic and offences like shoplifting going through the roof seemingly unpunished , is roof seemingly unpunished, is this a good use of police time ? this a good use of police time? and i'm joined by former met police detective peter bleksley peter, always a pleasure to see you.so peter, always a pleasure to see you. so the police say there's a clear public interest in this. there is a process to follow. but as we're seeing with currently, there's a debate going on in holyrood about hate crime laws. are we getting lost in chasing cases that are kind of symptomatic of the fact we're not actually solving real crime ? not actually solving real crime? >> no. i think what we've got to do here when we look at the allegations that are made around angela rayner, is take those in the round as a, as a separate item. and i think it is only right that they are investigated impartially , thoroughly and impartially, thoroughly and professionally because there

could be and i say could be some criminal offences revealed which if so, would relate to a very prominent politician. it's the same as when we had partygate allegations during covid. it was only right then that the lawmakers, who were alleged to be lawbreakers, were investigated . and i understand investigated. and i understand people might be frustrated that this is not burglary, knife crime, violence against women , crime, violence against women, but it is necessary and it also shows why our police should always remain entirely impartial from political influence . from political influence. >> yeah, but peter, we get you on this show . >> yeah, but peter, we get you on this show. how >> yeah, but peter, we get you on this show . how often to talk on this show. how often to talk about knife crime and nothing ever seems to get done. and yet what i'm saying is the police seem to be able to find time to investigate politicians. they seem to be find time to investigate people's social media feeds, policing their tweets and not the street. do

you think the public would just like to see some actual firm action on the ground? rather than faffing around like this ? than faffing around like this? >> i strongly suspect that every viewer and listener of yours today would really have liked to have seen a local patrolling neighbourhood police officer go past their window or their front door today. that's what the pubuc door today. that's what the public want. that's what makes the public more trustworthy of the public more trustworthy of the police . when they know them, the police. when they know them, they know their name, their number. they can trust them. they can report stuff, covertly to them. that's what people want. but there is a time and a place for when allegations are made against people who are very prominent in life , say in prominent in life, say in politics, say in sport, say in show business, that those people's allegations are investigated thoroughly, impartially and professionally. we cannot have one rule for one and one rule for another . and one rule for another. >> excellent input as ever. and i always say peter bleksley , if

i always say peter bleksley, if we have more people like you back in the police force, we might stand a better chance. thanks for joining might stand a better chance. thanks forjoining us. always an thanks for joining us. always an absolute pleasure to have on absolute pleasure to have you on the show. there's still the show. now there's still plenty grab your plenty of time to grab your chance win greek cruise, chance to win a greek cruise, travel goodies and ten grand in cold, hard, free cash and cold, hard, tax free cash and hazel details that you need to hop on board. >> don't miss your chance to win our biggest prize so far. there's an incredible £10,000 in tax free cash to spend however you like . plus, courtesy of you like. plus, courtesy of variety cruises, a bespoke seven night small boat cruise for two worth £10,000 with flights, meals, excursions and drinks included , your next holiday included, your next holiday could be on us. choose any one of their 2025 greek adventures and find your home at sea. we'll also send you packing with these luxury travel gifts for another chance to win a prize worth over £20,000. text win to 63232. text cost £2 plus one standard network rate message , or post

network rate message, or post your name and number to gb04, po box 8690. derby dh1 nine, double two uk only entrants must be 18 or over. lines closed at 5 pm. on the 26th of april. full terms and privacy notice @gbnews .com. forward slash win. please check the closing time if listening or watching on demand. good luck . watching on demand. good luck. >> and coming up, a mentally ill man who sat light to two elderly worshippers as they made their way home from mosques, has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. we'll have more on that soon. i'm martin daubney on that soon. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

>> i'm patrick christys every weeknight from nine, i bring you two hours of unmissable, explosive debate and headline grabbing interviews. >> what impact has that had? >> what impact has that had? >> we got death threats and the bomb threat and so on. >> our job is to do what's in >> ourjob is to do what's in the best interest of our country.

>> you made my argument for me one at time. one at a time. >> my guests and tackle the >> my guests and i tackle the issues matter issues that really matter with a sharp i'm sharp take on every story i'm heanng sharp take on every story i'm hearing up down the country. hearing up and down the country. >> was a beginning, not an end. >> patrick christys tonight from 9 on gb news, 9 pm. only on gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. it's 523. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now, later in the show, i'll talk about king charles's plans to have 2000 solar panels installed at his sandringham estate. but before that, a mentally ill man who set light to two elderly worshippers as they made their way home from mosques, has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. mohammed abacha was found guilty last year of attempting to murder hashi odowa in west london and mohammed riaz in birmingham, and abacha appeared for his sentencing. hearing by video link to the ashworth high security mental health hospital

in merseyside and our west midlands. reporter jack carson has the story and a warning. this does contain graphic images from the start . from the start. >> two men doused in petrol and set alight 82 year old hashem doa and 70 year old mohammed riaz had just attended prayers when mohammed abkar attempted to murder them on their way home. originally from sudan , abacha originally from sudan, abacha came to the uk seeking asylum in 2017 and was granted leave to remain in 2019. in february last yeah remain in 2019. in february last year, he attempted to kill mr adoa as he made his way to a neighbour's car outside the west eaung neighbour's car outside the west ealing islamic centre in west london. in this footage , london. in this footage, released by west midlands police, abkar is seen following the 82 year old leaving the mosque. he engages in conversation before pouring petrol from a water petrol on him from a water bottle and setting it alight. dufing bottle and setting it alight. during the trial, birmingham crown court heard how the 29 year old sudanese man told mr adoai year old sudanese man told mr adoa i swear in the name of allah, in the name of god , you allah, in the name of god, you will know me. a month later, 70

year old mohammed riaz suffered serious burns, particularly to his head, in a second attack by abkar. this time near a mosque a hundred miles away in edgbaston. in march. mr reyes was followed for more than five minutes after leaving the prayer hall of birmingham's dudley road mosque . birmingham's dudley road mosque. cctv shows abkar within feet of him they passed a caribbean him as they passed a caribbean food store. there's a confrontation between the two. a 70 year old riaz pushes abkar back in an attempt to get him to leave him alone. like his previous attack, abkar takes a clear plastic bottle from a rucksack , pours petrol on his rucksack, pours petrol on his coat and sets it on fire in this photo released by the riaz family, the extent of the injuries can be seen just 24 hours after the attack. evidence collected by west midlands police shows how badly his clothes were burnt. chief inspector haroon chugtai, of birmingham police describes the attacks. >> these were horrific, unprovoked attacks on men in their 705 and 805. >> the two men who had left their mosques after their prayers very close to ramadan. starting so you can understand

the tensions and the fears in the tensions and the fears in the wider muslim community. >> you can see from the cctv that these attacks were planned. >> you can hear from the screams of mr riaz, which were caught on cctv , that must been in cctv, that he must have been in indescribable the victims indescribable pain. the victims have lasting have been left with lasting injuries significant mental injuries and significant mental trauma. to thank trauma. i'd like to thank them and families for the and their families for the courage they've and courage that they've shown and the they've the support that they've provided throughout this ordeal. >> during trial, the court >> during the trial, the court heard psychiatrists who heard from psychiatrists who said abkar was said mohammad abkar was suffering paranoid suffering from paranoid schizophrenia at the time of the attacks. the 29 year old believed the people he had set on were among several on fire were among several controlling him through magic. jurors more than jurors deliberated for more than seven hours over two days, having been asked to consider whether abkar should be found not reason of insanity not guilty by reason of insanity . in the end, he was found guilty of attempted murder and after sentencing. today, the victims and families victims and their families finally justice. finally have justice. >> well, that story was by gb news west midlands reporter jack carson. we can join jack now.

he's live outside birmingham crown . jack, a heinous crown court. jack, a heinous pair of clearly premeditated hatred and brutal attacks, attempted murder. many people watching jack will be asking the question why, once again, has a person like mohammed abacha been handed an indefinite hospital order and not instead be sent to prison ? prison? >> well, certainly that is still martin. questions that are being asked by the family of those of mohammed akua victims. of course, this court hearing how he will serve an indefinite hospital order. now, during the sentencing today, we heard from the clinician that is currently deaung the clinician that is currently dealing with mohammed abacha in this secure mental hospital up in liverpool, which he'd been reprimanded into a few months ago just before christmas, from his custodial cell that he was being kept in after of course, the verdict back all the way in november had found him guilty by

jury november had found him guilty by jury of attempted murder. now the judge heard the evidence from the clinician and decided when delivering sentence to sentenced to just a hospital order, rather than what he could have considered would have been a hybrid order of a of a custodial centre. sentence later . for now, that was because, in the of the judge, it may the words of the judge, it may well be the case that he will require lifelong treatment for his illness. he was diagnosed with schizophrenia . now, the with schizophrenia. now, the court heard today that abacha had had responded to some of the forms of treatment that they've been giving him at this secure mental hospital, but they weren't still and couldn't yet determine whether he had a treatment resistant form of schizophrenia. now there is a drug called clozapine, which they are considering to be treating him with, and it was the view of the clinician and ultimately the judge at sentencing today that in order to be able to administer that treatment, that he would have to stay in a hospital. it's difficult, of course, in the

words of the judge before a prison officer, to be able to spot the signs that maybe a mental health trained clinician would be able to spot in terms of relapse, it was the dangers possibly to prison staff and other people, such inmates other people, such as inmates within that's the within the prison. that's the reason why mohammed will will stay hospital , as in a stay in a hospital, as in a hospital, secure mental hospital, secure mental hospital, indefinite. but speaking after that sentence on the steps here at birmingham crown court was one of his victims, mohammed riaz, his son, mohammed ijaz. here's what he said. >> mohammed abacha, who set my father on fire. he's not going to serve a prison sentence , but to serve a prison sentence, but he's going to be going to a hospital, probably get served a three course meal and have an evening cup of tea, whereas he should be in a prison , you know, should be in a prison, you know, facing, you know, maximum, maximum punishment, especially setting two people on fire in two main cities of the united kingdom. you're talking about london and birmingham. i mean,

how could this happen ? how could this happen? >> yes, certainly only a feeling of partial justice being done after this sentence. i mean, the court also heard, of course, that mohammed abacha was an asylum seeker. he came from sudanin asylum seeker. he came from sudan in 2017 here was granted leave to remain in 2019. now, the defence cited that he had had no history of violence but the family after the sentence today, saying that that only dates back to there's no dates back to 2018. there's no record or history of whether he was violent and a previous offender he came offender in sudan before he came to and they are to this country, and they are going start, they a going to start, they say, a campaign in for for campaign in order for for justice the things like this don't happen again . don't happen again. >> jack carson live from birmingham crown court. thank you for that update and it's hard not to agree. isn't it, with mohammed ayaz there, the son of one of those gentlemen who was set on fire by mohammed akbar with echoes of the valdo calocane triple killing in my home city of nottingham. when

people are sent to hospital for the rest of their lives, is that true justice? the victims , those true justice? the victims, those that the bereaved in the valdo calocane case certainly didn't think so. they felt this was trial by doctors. this they felt justice was not served and it seems that mohammed ayaz, one of the son of one of the aggrieved here, he feels the same. let me know what you think about that , know what you think about that, gb views .com forward slash your say now. still lots to come between now and 6:00. and i'll talk to a woman whose mother in law died after a hospital mixed up her notes with the man whose notes read do not resuscitate. but first it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour mp5 have rejected all amendments to the rwanda bill, suggested by the rwanda bill, suggested by the house of lords. the rejected legislation will now head back

to the upper chamber, though we don't know yet whether peers will attempt to re amend it once again. downing street wants to get the bill, which declares rwanda a safe country and stops appeals by illegal migrants, passed week with flights passed this week with flights getting off the ground within weeks. we're hearing weeks. and we're just hearing labour peers will back two amendments tonight in the lords voting, expected from 6:00. we'll follow that for you live on gb news. if those amendments pass, mp5 will consider them once again monday. pass, mp5 will consider them once again monday . also in once again on monday. also in the news today, sir keir starmer has accused the prime minister of dodging questions over cutting and state pension cutting nhs and state pension funding to cover the cost of scrapping national insurance. speaking during prime minister's questions today , the labour questions today, the labour leader criticised the conservatives for what he called their obsession with unfunded tax cuts. but rishi sunak fought back, telling the commons it's always the same with labour. he said higher taxes and working people paying the price . and as people paying the price. and as you've been hearing, a 28 year old man convicted of attempting

to murder two elderly worshippers in a mosque in what a judge described as a horrific attack, has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order. mohammed akua, who has paranoid schizophrenia , threw petrol over schizophrenia, threw petrol over his victims and set them alight outside mosques in birmingham and london. the court heard 82 year old hashi odowa and 70 year old mohammed riaz were chosen at random because abkir believed they were possessed by evil spirits , and the boss of the spirits, and the boss of the post office has been exonerated . post office has been exonerated. following an independent investigation into allegations of bullying, nick read always rejected claims of misconduct. the firm says he now has its full backing to lead the organisation, which continues to fall under scrutiny over the honzon fall under scrutiny over the horizon it scandal, during which hundreds of subpostmaster voters were wrongly convicted of theft. those are your latest news headlines. do sign up for gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts .

common alerts. >> for a valuable legacy your family can own , gold coins will family can own, gold coins will always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , checking news financial report, checking on the numbers for you today and the pound buying a $1.2434 and ,1.1679. l ,1.1679. >>- ,1.1679. >> the price of gold is £1,916 an ounce, and the ftse 100 has closed the day to day at 7847 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> thank you polly. now there's a new way to get in touch with us here @gbnews. hundreds have already done so. saint george's flags have really got you going. well, bev turner with well, here's bev turner with all the details . the details. >> we to be gb news >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views . now there's

know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a know, we always love to hear your views . now there's a new your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us @gbnews d'ivoire slash your @gbnews cote d'ivoire slash your say by commenting. you can be part a live conversation and part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can talk to me, bev turner can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family. go to news family. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay kwasi

i >> -- >> gb -_ >> gb news 5mm >> gb news is the home of free speech. >> we were created to champion it, and we deliver it day in day out. >> free speech allows us all to explore and debate openly the issues most important to us, our families. and of course , the families. and of course, the british people having challenging conversations to enlighten other. enlighten each other. >> which is why we hear all sides of the argument. we are the people's channel. >> always stand by the >> we will always stand by the freedom to express yourself on tv, radio and online. >> this is gb news, britain's news channel . news channel. >> welcome back. it's 539. i'm

martin daubney and this is gb news now. pat dawson died after staff at royal blackburn hospital mixed up her notes with a 90 year old patient who had a do not resuscitate notice on their hospital notes . the 73 their hospital notes. the 73 year old retired nurse was taken to hospital by ambulance with a suspected bowel obstruction, but she died after she collapsed and medics stopped any attempts to resuscitate her. well, join me now is pat's daughter in law, paula dawson. paula welcome to the show. i'm so sorry for your loss. nobody deserves this. would you please mind sharing with gb news viewers what happened on that eventful day? >> yeah. so, my mother in law, pat, was . she felt poorly on the pat, was. she felt poorly on the friday and she, she she was okay. she was getting getting a little bit better , but then on little bit better, but then on

the tuesday , her daughter rang the tuesday, her daughter rang my husband and said she needed she needed some help. she was a little bit poorly, so we rang an ambulance for her and they suspected a stomach blockage. so they took to her blackburn royal hosphal they took to her blackburn royal hospital, sorry. royal blackburn hospital, sorry. royal blackburn hospital on the tuesday evening . hospital on the tuesday evening. and, when she was taken through to a&e, she she was put into, put onto the corridor. because there was no room within any of there was no room within any of the cubicles. she, she was given given a drink, but she, she didn't feel quite right, but she needed to go to the bathroom , so needed to go to the bathroom, so because she couldn't make her way there, she was. >> she was really weak and quite faint. >> the her my husband, her son asked for, a commode to be brought to her on four separate

occasions . she'd asked. brought to her on four separate occasions. she'd asked. he'd asked for this commode to be brought and it never arrived. so one of the healthcare assistants asked if she could get to the bathroom . so they took her in a bathroom. so they took her in a wheelchair to the bathroom , it wheelchair to the bathroom, it was really loud outside, so john had his ear up to the ear, up to the door. asking if she was all right. and she did reply to say yes. she was fine. but after the third ask, she she didn't reply, 50 third ask, she she didn't reply, so john asked if the door could be opened and she was slumped on the on the, toilet, and a passing doctor was brought in and they started cpr on her, because she'd gone into cardiac arrest and she, she was brought round very quickly within 305 and was moved into a, into a separate bay. and whilst all this was was happening, she ,

this was was happening, she, sorry. the staff went to the desk , had a look at her notes, desk, had a look at her notes, tried seeing, what was going on with her and it flagged up saying that she had a dnr and in all the time that she's been around , she's never been poorly. around, she's never been poorly. she's never been to the doctors, the hospital , so it was it was the hospital, so it was it was a it was a thing that we she wouldn't have had. but that was never discussed with john. and they said, no, she's got a dnr and chose not to, to resuscitate. and i think it was about 20 minutes later after she'd passed, john was taken into the relatives room and, and told that there'd been a mix up, and they checked a another patient's notes who turned out to be a 90 year old male . to be a 90 year old male. >> it's an astonishing mix, but it beggars belief. yeah paula.

and the inquest, found out that staff failed to check the nhs number on pat's wristband, or even the gender and age on the notes. it was called the emergency consultant. ahmed al—aboud called the tragedy an honest mistake because staff were rushing about. honest mistake because staff were rushing about . what would were rushing about. what would you like to see come out of this ? >> 7- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so we've never , ever pointed >> so we've never, ever pointed the finger at any member of staff. it was extremely chaotic that day , there were patients that day, there were patients everywhere . they didn't seem to everywhere. they didn't seem to know what patient was located, where they had to ask who people were because they didn't know whereabouts they were within the within the department. they were down corridors. and it needs to change because more people are going to end up in the same situation as pat's. and families

like us, where we're going to lose people because everybody's too stretched, they can't carry out their job, which they have been sworn to do because of the, the ties that they that they're being faced with. they are being pressured too much and overstretched . overstretched. >> okay. >> okay. >> well, i hope you find peace as a family. i hope, pat, rest in peace. thanks forjoining us on the show and thanks for sharing that story. i hate to be intrusive, but i think these stories, they really, really need to be told. thank you very much for joining need to be told. thank you very much forjoining us. thank you much for joining us. thank you very thank you . very much, gb news. thank you. absolute pleasure. jawad absolute pleasure. now, jawad hussein, who's the executive medical director and deputy chief executive at east lancashire hospitals nhs trust, said this this is .atragic said this this is .a tragic incident that should never have

happened and for that we are truly sorry. we know there is nothing we can say to lessen the pain felt by mrs. dawson's family. the trust has reviewed all of the learning from this case and has already implemented improvements . okay now king improvements. okay now king charles has never been afraid to show off his green credentials and is now taking steps to make his sandringham estate more eco friendly. but is it actual eco destruction? i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel.

welcome back. it's 549 on the final furlong. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now. king charles is well known for his views on climate change, and apparently he's now taking steps to make sure that his

sandringham estate is more eco friendly . well, it's been friendly. well, it's been reported that the king is planning to have 2000 wind solar panels installed on that estate, andifs panels installed on that estate, and it's set to make the estate largely self—sufficient with a supply of its own green electricity. well, joining me now is former royal correspondent, the absolute legend that is michael cole . legend that is michael cole. michael, twice in two days i feel blessed. look, king charles has long been talking up his eco credentials. some may uncharitably compare him to greta thunberg in a tweed suit. it's one thing, however, to be self—sufficient in energy , but self—sufficient in energy, but got to be said solar panel farms. there hardly eco friendly, although they destroy environments. what's your take? >> i certainly agree with that. >> i certainly agree with that. >> the king has indeed, as you say, martin, and good afternoon to you. applied for planning permission now this is going to be a bit of a mini solar farm,

2000 solar panels on a site of two hectares. that's about four acres, by my reckoning. >> and as he has the sandringham estate, 20,000 acres, four acres isn't going to be very much. >> and it's nowhere near where he lives at sandringham house. now these things which we're seeing on the screen are hugely controversial up here. a monster one is being planned on the borders between suffolk and cambridge , and the people there cambridge, and the people there really despise it . a5 cambridge, and the people there really despise it . as they say, really despise it. as they say, quite rightly, is this grade a agricultural land being turned over to this semi—industrial use and spoiling the look of the countryside and changing it irrevocably, irrevocably , and in irrevocably, irrevocably, and in a negative way, also . a negative way, also. >> so i'm in suffolk. the king is up in norfolk when he's there, it suffolk is suffering. >> suffering .

>> suffering. >> suffering. >> besides nuclear power station at sizewell a new one, sizewell c, north sea power. >> offshore power's being brought ashore at walberswick . brought ashore at walberswick. >> a very scenic and historic artistic village . and in the artistic village. and in the charming village of preston, too. so we're under siege. >> and a double row of monster pylons is going to be planned down the spine of suffolk and essex to tilbury . essex to tilbury. >> but this is not happening. >> but this is not happening. >> not happening on the north norfolk coast, where the holkham estate and the houghton estate of the earl of leicester and the marquess of chumley are, and, of course , where sandringham house course, where sandringham house is. >> so if you want to go and live somewhere where there's not going to be a nuclear power station or a monster solar farm, go and live near the king because it's not going to happen there. and on aviation maps, there's a circle, a purple circle around sandringham house

which says you can't even you're not allowed to fly here. only royal helicopters . so it's a royal helicopters. so it's a token. it's, speaks to his eco credentials, but it doesn't add up to much because the power is only for the sandringham estate. it's not going to be exploited and used and exported to the people . people. >> superb. well, thanks for joining us. former royal correspondent and current everyday legend michael cole. always an absolute joy. there we go. king charles's sandringham estate will be self sufficient with its solar panel farm, but will it be a blot on the landscape now? you've been getting in touch throughout the show. gbnews.com forward slash. your say, of course, is how you can get in touch. and the big topic that's got you going today and i'm delighted to say the patriotic spirit is alive and kicking. i'd expect no less from you in gb news land because in my home city, nottingham, they unfurled this morning the

country's biggest saint george's flag. look at it. look how majestic that is. that is the balcony, by the way, where brian clough lifted two european cups. the nottingham forest team on that balcony . i remember that that balcony. i remember that well as a boy. this is a council normally raising trans flags, pride flags, black lives matter flags, ukrainian flags, you name it. now this beauty has gone up andifs it. now this beauty has gone up and it's got you going in your droves . maggie says this i think droves. maggie says this i think there should be a bank holiday for england. saint george's day. i'm fed up of having to be ashamed of our english flag . ashamed of our english flag. christopher adds this go for more english celebrations for our country and make it a bank houday our country and make it a bank holiday to boots. he agrees with maggie. keith adds this national and heritage flag should be flown all over the uk as and when appropriate. if certain sector of the population object to it, well, they know where the boats and planes leave from one way clear off. i'm proud to be

english. say it as you mean it, keith. and andrew adds this the flag of england in nottingham is big enough. well it is, well done. nottingham. now every city and town in england should be flying similar sized english flags from palaces, castles, stately homes , town halls, all stately homes, town halls, all official buildings right down to individual houses and only the flag of england. well, that's it from me. thanks forjoining me. there's a new you can get in touch. don't forget it's breakfast. dewbs& co is up next. don't pardon me. breakfast in the morning from six with stephen followed by stephen and ellie, followed by britain's newsroom. andrew and bev. and then it's tom and emily. then i'm back at 3:00. anyway. dewbs & next. but anyway. dewbs& co next. but first it's weather with first it's your weather with alex deakin . alex deakin. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news afternoon. >> welcome to your latest

weather update from the met office here on gb news. it's going to be a cold one tonight where we have the clearest spells we could see some pockets of frost, a fair few showers still around this evening, some quite heavy ones over eastern england. grey and damp over pembrokeshire, devon and cornwall. rain should clear cornwall. that rain should clear away . we'll keep some showers away. we'll keep some showers going over east, but for going over the east, but for many be dry and with the many it will be dry and with the clearer skies southern clearer skies over southern scotland, and scotland, northwest england and wales, we are wales, that's where we are likely a touch of frost. likely to see a touch of frost. certainly the countryside, certainly in the countryside, many will just many towns and cities will just about above freezing, but about hover above freezing, but it is going to be a fairly cold start to thursday . most will start to thursday. most will have a dry and a bright start though, with sunshine . though, with some sunshine. could shower clouds over though, with some sunshine. coulrearly shower clouds over though, with some sunshine. coulrearly on. shower clouds over though, with some sunshine. coulrearly on. they'llr clouds over though, with some sunshine. coulrearly on. they'll certainly)ver kent early on. they'll certainly be some rain coming into the highlands the western isles, highlands and the western isles, and spreads across most of and that spreads across most of scotland. lunchtime, scotland. by lunchtime, the north of northern north and east of northern ireland likely to see a little bit of rain at times as well, and that rain will spread into northern north northern england, maybe north wales, of day . wales, by the end of the day. the south, though, generally the far south, though, generally stays a fine day for stays dry. a fine day for east anglia the area. 15

anglia and the london area. 15 possible here, elsewhere it possible here, but elsewhere it will cooler as the will be turning cooler as the cloud and the rain moves in. getting windy again through the day another day on day and another breezy day on friday a mixture of friday with a mixture of sunshine and showers. generally a grey in south, a grey start in the south, perhaps brightening up a little bit most of showers bit with most of the showers across eastern across central and eastern parts. drier day for scotland and ireland, not and northern ireland, but not much temperatures in some much warmer temperatures in some places. single figures and even in the south the teens , but in the south into the teens, but feeling with the breeze. in the south into the teens, but feelifor with the breeze. in the south into the teens, but feelifor now with the breeze. in the south into the teens, but feelifor now . with the breeze. bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler , sponsors of weather boxt boiler, sponsors of weather on

have you lost the will to live when it comes to all this? do you still back it? did you ever back it? will it ever actually

finally become law or not? and good news. inflation falls again. so do you reckon we've turned a corner? do you think it's going to help the tories after all? and do you actually feel better off. and do you think it's time for an think now it's time for an interest cut or not? and interest rate cut or not? and get this, nearly 3 million people in this country are on long terms, sick leave. many of those people. apparently it's because their mental health because of their mental health when it comes to our welfare system. do you think all of this is sustainable or not? and let me you this do you think you me ask you this do you think you should be to smack your should be able to smack your child, grandchild ? it's child, your grandchild? it's unlawful scotland and wales unlawful in scotland and wales but in england and but allowed in england and northern ireland if it constitutes reasonable punishments. experts now want that to be outlawed . do you that to be outlawed. do you agree with them or . not? yes. agree with them or. not? yes. expect some robust debate over the next hour . but before we get the next hour. but before we get stuck in, let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's 6:00 news.