the mark menzies is stripped of the conservative whip after a bizarre 3 a.m. phone call had him demanding thousands in campaign cash to free him from being locked up by bad people and reborn in the usa. >> prince harry declares his official country of residence as the united states of america, fresh document filings reveal . fresh document filings reveal. has the prince given up on blighty for . blighty for. good.7 now, so much to cover today and of course, through it all, gbnews.com/yoursay is your way to get involved now. today i'm with a lovely emma webb because emily is away on holiday, sunning herself in somewhere that i'm told is not rwanda. but but lovely to be with you today and what a crazy day it is , and what a crazy day it is, given that we've got, another

tory mp. no longer taking the whip. >> yes, yet another one. pardon the double entendre there, tom, it just never seems to end . i it just never seems to end. i mean, we've only just had william wragg and now obviously, this story too, it really raises some serious questions about mps security and their really their common sense. >> and it does have all of these sort of evocative feelings of the 1990s where you had all these stories of tory sleaze. there was something called autoerotic asphyxiation that happened to one, mp who sadly passed away in the in the mid 1990s. passed away in the in the mid 19905. it passed away in the in the mid 1990s. it just has all of these harbingers of, of john major's sort of dying days of government. >> of course, this is not the first time either, that menzies has been caught up in a scandal like this. >> certainly hasn't. i mean, he lost his ministerial status in the you'd the early coalition years. you'd have that he might have have thought that he might have been deselected they been deselected then, but they might about might have done something about it but not it then, but clearly not absolutely . absolutely. >> and what's what's particularly interesting as well is that these stories about tory

sleaze seem to very, very quickly swamp out any discussion of similar stories in the news about the labour party , as we've about the labour party, as we've seen with angela rayner this week. so this is now the biggest story. >> that's certainly true, but there much more to there is so much more to talk about. covering all about. we'll be covering it all here on good afternoon britain. but headlines but first it's your headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you and good afternoon. the top stories . afternoon. the top stories. labour are calling for police to investigate what opposition ministers have described as extraordinary allegations that an mp misused thousands of pounds of campaign funds. according to the times, mr menzies used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people, who he said locked him in a flat and demanded thousands of pounds for his release. he denies any wrongdoing but has agreed to give up the conservative whip . give up the conservative whip. he'll sit as an independent in the house of commons while the allegations are investigated in scotland . the prescription of

scotland. the prescription of puberty blockers and gender affirming hormones for children has been paused. it follows a landmark cass review of gender services for under 18, which revealed children had been let down by a lack of research and weak evidence on medical interventions. ministers in scotland have welcomed the move, but campaigners argue the decision is the wrong one. like other parts of the uk, scotland has seen a rapid rise in the number of young people questioning their identity or experiencing gender dysphoria in england , the nhs has already england, the nhs has already stopped prescribing puberty blockers . commons leader penny blockers. commons leader penny mordaunt has said mps will consider further lords amendments to the rwanda bill on monday. the house of lords ignored ministerial calls to back down and again last night insisted on further revisions to the bill. the government has promised to do whatever it needs to do to get flights off the ground, defence secretary grant shapps told us this morning. the rwanda plan is the deterrent . rwanda plan is the deterrent. the uk needs to stop migrants

illegally into britain. illegally crossing into britain. >> let's pass this rwanda bill. >> let's pass this rwanda bill. >> let's pass this rwanda bill. >> let's stop messing around. as keir starmer was telling his lords to do last night by chucking this out again. so the commons is going to have to go and come back and vote on it. we've already voted for it numerous times, and let's actually illegal numerous times, and let's actua|of illegal numerous times, and let's actua|of beingegal numerous times, and let's actua|of being brought here. >> it's been revealed that uk aid funding has been invested in an overseas firm that backs a social media site offering sexual services and promoting the hamas attack on israel . mps the hamas attack on israel. mps are demanding answers from lord cameron and the foreign office following the findings. in a report from the independent commission for aid impact. more than £6 million of funding went to the india quotient fund last yean to the india quotient fund last year, the watchdog is warning the uk faces a major reputational risk because of those findings . as a criminal those findings. as a criminal gang involved in a website which taught subscribers how to defraud thousands of victims in

the uk has been shut down by british police . 480,000 card british police. 480,000 card numbers belonging to as many as 70,000 people were accessed via the website lab post, with criminals subscribing to the site taught how to access bank details and pin numbers. since its creation, the site has received just under £1 million in subscriptions from criminal users . detective superintendent users. detective superintendent helen rance says many more arrests will be made in the coming weeks. >> within the uk, we've managed to identify 25,000 victims and taking down an enabling service like this is absolutely what we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to get ahead and to dismantle an enabler such as post support for the conservative party has hit a record low with just 19% of pubuc record low with just 19% of public backing. >> that's according to a poll by ipsos, the prime minister's satisfaction rating has also dropped to a historic low of

—59, matching john major's record . the public also appear record. the public also appear divided on a conservative's leadership change, with 37% calling for a shift. sir keir starmer maintains his lead in the polls, but he too faces a drop in satisfaction, down from 29% to 25 since february . prince 29% to 25 since february. prince harry has officially listed the united states as his primary residence, according to documents filed in the uk. the change was made last summer. he and his wife meghan moved to america after stepping back from royal duties in 2020. dubai is still grappling with the aftermath of a record breaking storm that's brought much of the desert city to a standstill. thousands of passengers have had flights cancelled and severe floodings trapped residents inside homes, while waterlogged roads are cleared. some inbound flights at dubai's international airport have resumed, but on the whole, the airport says it's

still barely functional. the unprecedented rainfall has sparked speculation about cloud seeding as something the uae has denied . and nellie the elephant denied. and nellie the elephant said goodbye to the circus and decided to take a stroll. residents in butte in montana in the united states, had an unexpected visitor as viola, an adventurous elephant, escaped a travelling circus caught on camera, viola wandered through the streets before being gently guided away and despite the drama sparking both amusement and concern among locals, viola returned home unharmed . for the returned home unharmed. for the latest stories you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news .com/ alerts . alerts. >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:08 now. a failed asylum

seeker whose deportation flight was blocked has now pleaded guilty to raping a 15 year old girl. mr miller's flight to the repubuc girl. mr miller's flight to the republic of congo was stopped by an air france cabin crew after claims deportation minders had taped his legs and handcuffed him. well. he subsequently claimed deportation was against his human rights and stayed in the uk. >> he became a poster boy against deportation flights of illegal migrants, posing with a sign saying migrants are not criminals. you couldn't write this. this news comes as the passage of the rwanda bill has been delayed by the house of lords, blocking resettlement flights for those who enter the uk illegally. >> well, gb news political correspondent olivia lee joins us now. and olivia , this us now. and olivia, this couldn't paint a worse backdrop for yet another day of delay. we were thinking it could have passed . the whole bill could passed. the whole bill could have passed today. now it's kicked into yet another week . kicked into yet another week. >> exactly. tom, what we were expecting to happen last night

was for the lords opposition to melt away the government has a sizeable, just about still majority in the house of commons. so the lords, we thought, would put up a bit of a fight. but when it became clear that the government was determined to pass its flagship legislation, that that sort of support for the blocking amendments would fall away . but amendments would fall away. but that didn't happen. last night. the lords pushed through two different blocking amendments to this rwanda bill, which means that the bill will be back in the house of commons on monday, eventually , one way or another, eventually, one way or another, the government will almost certainly win this. it is a flagship piece of legislation from the prime minister and the lords. it would be democratically pretty tricky for the lords to try and continue to block it. the problem is there is a pretty tight timeline on all of this. rishi sunak has said that he wants to get flights off the ground by the spring. well, we're well into the middle of april by now, and

even once the bill has received royal assent, probably at some point next week, we can expect another six week delay due to paperwork , potential legal paperwork, potential legal challenges, etc. so we're getting very, very close to rishi sunak deadline. and of course, we're getting very close to the local elections as well. if no flights have left for rwanda by the 2nd of may, well, that will be the nail in the coffin. i suspect, of rishi sunaks hopes for the local elections. >> olivia, what do you think the political costs will be of this for the conservative party going into those next elections? is there a real worry that the labour peers in particular, might be trying to slow this down even more, with the hope that this will damage the conservative gives ? conservative gives? >> i think that is definitely the worry for the conservatives. there was a hope among conservative mps who i spoke to that labour peers would be would be reluctant to block the bill on the grounds that they expect that soon. a labour party will

be in power in the house of commons, and they wouldn't want to set a precedent for peers blocking government legislation. well, if they were worried about that, that worry to have that, that worry seems to have melted away because night melted away because last night labour all too happy labour peers were all too happy to push through. not one but two, wrecking amendments to that bill. it is all a question of timing. the reason why lords are still bothering to push ahead with these amendments, even though they know that ultimately they will be defeated, is because the longer this drags out , the more likely it is that out, the more likely it is that no flights will be off the ground by the local elections . ground by the local elections. and really, really and that would be really, really damaging to rishi sunak leadership position. >> really damaging indeed. well, olivia utley, thank you very much for joining olivia utley, thank you very much forjoining us live from much for joining us live from westminster. let's get some more now with political editor of now with the political editor of huffpost uk, kevin schofield. kevin, this is, just a mess that rishi sunak did not want to see, why did everyone get it so wrong thinking it could be passed this

week ? week? >> well, that was certainly what we were being led to believe, that the government were keen to get it passed this week, and that's was very that's why everyone was very surprised, was certainly surprised, i was certainly surprised, i was certainly surprised found out surprised when i found out yesterday afternoon that instead of bill returning to of the bill returning to parliament to the house of commons last night after the laws passed, those two amendments, and it wouldn't be until next week, it could have been back today. but i'm told that conservative mps were put on a one line whip, which basically means that they don't need to need to turn up. there are no important votes for them to part in, and it's all to take part in, and it's all very strange because this is supposed remember , supposed to be, if you remember, emergency when it emergency legislation when it was rishi was first announced by rishi sunak back in november, the idea that it wouldn't have passed five months later, i think would have been incredibly surprising if it was indeed meant to be an emergency . i mean, this has emergency. i mean, this has fallen on from the fact that it was delayed. before easter as well. there was a lot of surprise that the government didn't try to it didn't try harder, to get it through parliament before

easter. so yeah, it just seems very odd as, we were just hearing, given that rishi sunak has vowed to get these flights off the ground, then this spring, some might question rishi sunaks political judgement, given that he seems to himself up to fail here. >> do you think that that was political naivety on his part? what reason would he have to make promises like by spring this year, in the knowledge that obviously labour peers in particular are going to push back? so much against this? >> well, of course he's got form for making promises, and not being able to, to keep them. if you remember, at the start of last year , he made the five last year, he made the five pledges, one of them, of course, to stop the boats. and that clearly hasn't happened. he's managed halve inflation, but managed to halve inflation, but the other promises are looking a little bit dodgy, to say the least. so yeah, i don't understand . i really do not understand. i really do not understand. i really do not understand why he makes himself a hostage to fortune . and then, a hostage to fortune. and then, having made these promises, why he break his

he doesn't absolutely break his neck in order to try and keep them, especially at a time when public, the public, are pretty cynical about politicians in general, but the prime minister in particular, we've seen again, another poll this morning which shows that his personal shows that his own personal ratings completely cratered. >> such an odd thing for the cratered. >> su ministerd thing for the cratered. >> su minister to hing for the cratered. >> su minister to sort for the cratered. >> su minister to sort of' the cratered. >> su minister to sort of put prime minister to sort of put his political fortunes in the hands of a, of a, of a house of parliament, where he controls only one third of the seats, but kevin , we've also got to talk kevin, we've also got to talk about the other enormous story today. about the other enormous story today . rishi sunak has lost yet today. rishi sunak has lost yet another mp, the majority that once stood at 80 seats is today down to just 43. >> yeah, mark menzies has lost the party whip over allegations of misusing campaign funds in his seat in, in lancashire. and it's really the last thing that rishi sunak needed. we saw yesterday at prime minister's questions . he went yesterday at prime minister's questions. he went on yesterday at prime minister's questions . he went on the attack questions. he went on the attack over angela rayner trying to , over angela rayner trying to, obviously create a sense of laboun obviously create a sense of

labour, sleaze . and yet here we labour, sleaze. and yet here we are again talking about the conservatives. it's only a week or so since william wragg, also gave up the conservative whip over the honey trap scandal. and yet, as i say, it's just the last thing that rishi sunak needs. and also i saw, incidentally, it's maybe a minor detail , but it incidentally, it's maybe a minor detail, but it means now that that, tory rebels need one fewer letter to go in to the 1922 committee in order to trigger a no confidence vote. so who knows whether that may be significant or not. >> it's gone down from 53 to 52, i think, which is, interesting, as some have pointed out, actually, with respect to angela raynen actually, with respect to angela rayner, that this is a case of those who are in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. >> that obviously >> do you think that obviously this is the case with the conservative party criticising angela rayner and then having another scandal like this , that another scandal like this, that actually this is obviously a problem across the house and that labour would, would suffer from similar reputational , from similar reputational, issues if or when they are in

government. do you think that this is a problem, in the culture of parliament more generally, rather than a party political issue? >> well, there are 18 mps now sitting as independents who were previously elected either for conservative, mainly conservative or labour. i think there's one ply company and one snp mp as well. so, so yeah, there is. it's not just a tory issue and no doubt if there's a lot more labour mps after the election , then i guess they election, then i guess they might well find themselves more likely at least to be in this type of situation. but as i say, it's the worst possible timing for rishi sunak. they're already miles behind in the polls. there's just this feeling now. it's almost like before the 1997 election, when there lots of election, when there was lots of tory sleaze around then, and it just seems to feed itself and it confirms the public's view. i think that want see change. >> it's so interesting because i it sounds horrible and i don't sort of mean it like this, but i

can sort of understand that in these seats that the tories were sort of surprised that they won. they might not have had the best vetted there vetted candidates. there might be in amongst be some froot loops in amongst those but mark those surprise wins, but mark menzies is in a safe seat, and he's held that seat for 14 years. he's been in scandals before . it's remarkable that before. it's remarkable that there hasn't been any sort of process. there sort of. the red flags were there for everyone to see, he was waving them practically as vigorously and ferociously as he could, but but kevin. astonishing. >> almost a decade worth of trouble. yes >> yes, absolutely, kevin, we have run to the end of this segment, but thank you very much for joining us and talking us forjoining us and talking us through extraordinary through these extraordinary stories , out of out of stories, out of out of westminster but more westminster today, but much more coming on, on the programme. around asylum staying around 70 asylum seekers staying at raf wethersfield have been moved after serious safety risks. well, we'll be live on the ground very shortly. this is good afternoon britain on gb news, britain's election .

channel. channel good channel. good afternoon. britain. it's 12:21. now. the home office has been forced to move asylum seekers out of an raf base in essex. this after safety concerns were identified on the site, including radiological contamination and unexploded ordnance. >> it's another setback for the home office and their attempts to reduce the number of hotels being used as temporary accommodation. reporter , ray accommodation. our reporter, ray addison, is there for us. hi ray i >> -- >> hello there to you both. yes, this is a bit of a humiliating turnaround for the home office. just months after they sort of marked their own homework, if you like, and deemed that the site was safe and fit for

purpose. we find out that 70 have been now removed from our former raf wethersfield here and taken to back to hotels, which of course, rishi sunak , the of course, rishi sunak, the prime minister, has been very keen to stress that he doesn't want asylum seekers in hotels because that's expensive and they want them in sites like this behind me. now the safety risks that have been identified include levels of radiation and unexploded unexploded ordnance as well. so obviously this kind of base has been used by military forces over the years. and there's a risk inside that there could be unexploded ordnance like artillery shells, for example. now, this site is one of the home office's largest accommodation sites for asylum seekers. it could house up to 800 people now. the original plan was for about seven 1700 home office are telling us they won't comment on how many people

are currently here at the moment, locals they've moment, but locals say they've heard around the 600 level heard it's around the 600 level now. last month they got planning permission to use this site for three years. they got a special development order granted an sdo which circumvented the council planning permission requirements, and there were concerns in that sdo about the risk of contaminants. now it does appear that those concerns have been realised . i've been have been realised. i've been here since about 6 a.m. this morning, and i've seen little white mini buses coming and going, taking the asylum seekers out to local towns and villages and the like, but also right at the very start of the day, two men left on foot and i got the chance to shout a couple of quick questions to them. this is what they had to say. >> another quick chat . no, no . >> another quick chat. no, no. are you guys worried about the contamination on the site? where

are you to ? off yeah, where are are you to? off yeah, where are you going? oh what job do you have ? have? >> well, i think it's very interesting from that brief conversation i had with the with the two men there that it sounded like they said they were off working. and of course, asylum seekers who are waiting for their claims to be processed, cannot have a job. they're the only two gentlemen that i've seen coming out on foot. they're the only two i've had the chance to ask that question . obviously, that question to. but obviously, that would the home would be of concern to the home office . if there are people here office. if there are people here at accommodation site going at this accommodation site going out and working in the local community, i have to say though, we are in a quite a rural area. the nearest village is about 20 minutes away by car, so i really don't know where they would be be working. although we are surrounded by fields so there's

that possibility. patel , that possibility. priti patel, the former home secretary, has said that these latest issues highlight why the home office was wrong to the was wrong to use the wethersfield site for asylum accommodation. she said that she warned them that it was unsuitable and that the plans were flawed . were flawed. >> this is just the most extraordinary story, ray. there was a moment when you said, i've been here since 6 a.m. and was been here since 6 a.m. and i was about say, i was about to about to say, i was about to ask, sort of, you grown an ask, sort of, have you grown an extra you you extra leg? have you have you sort sprouting sort sort of started sprouting sort of superpowers , but of radioactive superpowers, but it does seem, ray, that that these sort of allegations of radiological contamination, i mean, this this seems like the sort of spurious, vexatious challenge that is just trying to turf people out. i mean, people have been living here for a long time. no turned into time. no one's turned into spider—man . spider—man. >> well, it's an interesting point . i >> well, it's an interesting point. i mean, i don't know if you saw my interview, which i had, in the last hour or so, i was speaking to andrew hull. he's the chairman of the

wethersfield airbase scrutiny committee. for about a year committee. now for about a year ago, they commissioned their own what they call desktop survey, and they got an expert to assess by speaking to people who've worked on this site over the last many , many years, going last many, many years, going back as far as they could to find out what kind of activities have been carried out on here and what kind of potential hazards there could be. and in that interview, he said that they've highlighted a number of serious concerns and that they need to be investigated before anybody is actually on this site living, using it for accommodation. of course, that's too late. that's already happened. and now we're starting potentially to see the effects of this where now people are being taken back out and put in hotels because of concerns over contaminants . contaminants. >> goodness me, it does smack of the sort of newt counting that often , you see, that prevents often, you see, that prevents things or people things being built or or people

being moved around in this country. but ray anderson, thank you live from that you very much. live from that site. really, really, interesting story there. but of course, the home office has been in touch. they've had this to say in response. we've always been that use been clear that the use of asylum hotels is unacceptable, which is why asylum which is why we moved asylum seekers form a military seekers to form a military sites, which we ensure safe to sites, which we ensure a safe to accommodate asylum seekers prior to use . but should we go to to use. but should we go to downing street now? because christopher hope our political edhonis christopher hope our political editor, is there for us? he's just been speaking with the prime minister's official spokesman. do spokesman. chris, what do you have us? have for us? >> hi, tom. that's right. well, some big news for after last night's, double defeat in the house of lords. those two amendments pushed back on the safety of rwanda plan to get these flights taking off by the end end the spring. as the end of end of the spring. as the pm has been saying as recently as tuesday last week, as last tuesday last week, number 10 are now saying they will now not say that these were under flights take this under flights will take off this spring. that they've lost spring. that means they've lost this essentially lost a week on their timetable. they are now planning all this

planning to push it all this through very dramatic through in a very dramatic sitting the house of commons sitting in the house of commons and house of on monday, and house of lords on monday, and house of lords on monday, and to get royal and it's likely to get royal assent safety rwanda assent for the safety of rwanda bill have lost bill on thursday. they have lost a in their timetabling and a week in their timetabling and in a briefing an hour with in a briefing just an hour with the official spokesman, he the pm's official spokesman, he would that the first would not say that the first flights will take off for the spring. significant spring. that is significant because as recently as last tuesday, last week, april the ninth, the pm rishi sunak was meeting with paul kagame , the meeting with paul kagame, the leader of rwanda, behind me, in the building in downing street . the building in downing street. he saying that the he was saying then that the first take off by first flights will take off by the spring. that is now the end of spring. that is now not the case. will get a new not the case. we will get a new timetable for rwanda flights taking off if it goes through both commons and the lords both the commons and the lords successfully on monday, a big moment, a big setback for the prime minister and his plan to yes, stop the boats. >> chris, why would the lords back down on monday when they didn't? today . didn't? today. >> the government is hoping that they can push it through the commons and indicate that with

the majority in the commons of around 50 or 60 for both those amendments, the lords will fold. but i talking last night to but i was talking last night to tory peers with knowledge of what the government is doing. they said it could ping pong, ping they said it could ping pong, ping pong six times and monday is the fourth exchange of fire between the commons and lords. it could be another 2 or 3 times after that. what's clear from the briefing just now with the official spokesman of the pm? they are likely to go late on monday sit and and get monday and sit and try and get this through, and then hopefully it's next week. it's law by thursday next week. so the government's been planning yesterday. today was the bill would become the day this bill would become law. they've lost a week and they're now saying this is threatening the getting these flights by the end the flights off by the end of the spring, which is june 21st. before look it up before you look up, look it up on . on google. >> it couldn't seem to remember. i someone quite famous >> it couldn't seem to remember. i said meone quite famous >> it couldn't seem to remember. i said the ne quite famous >> it couldn't seem to remember. i said the definitionamous >> it couldn't seem to remember. i said the definition ofous once said the definition of insanity was trying the same thing over again thing over and over again and expecting a different result. but perhaps, perhaps members but perhaps, perhaps the members of meet that of the upper house do meet that definition but definition of insanity. but chris got to ask you on the

chris also got to ask you on the big, big, news today in the tory parliamentary party, mark menzies losing the tory whip in the most peculiar of circumstances . circumstances. >> that's right. mark menzies has lost the tory whip. there's no comment from the briefing just now with the with the prime minister's spokesman. it's a matter parliamentary matter for the parliamentary party. but yes, as we say, mark menzies has lost the whip while the investigation carry on into. well, extraordinary well, the extraordinary allegations in the times about finding asking money from a key aide, thousands of pounds, he was locked up in a room at 3 a.m. and so it goes on. it's all there. i mean, yes, nothing to be saved from the government today. >> well, thank very much, >> well, thank you very much, chris. bringing the chris. hope for bringing us the very there from downing chris. hope for bringing us the very and there from downing chris. hope for bringing us the very and newe from downing chris. hope for bringing us the very and new dates downing chris. hope for bringing us the very and new dates forwning street and new dates for our diary. write these one of diary. i write these one of these every single day. these down every single day. i've out thursday. i've scribbled out thursday. today was meant to be the day that rwanda, the bill became law. now it's next thursday. >> such terrible nerd . >> you're such a terrible nerd. in just a moment, we'll be speaking to transgender charity

runner glenn frank, who has run marathons as a man, a woman and a non—binary. that's three different, different gender categories. but first, let's get your news headlines . your news headlines. >> emma. thank you. the top stories this hour. labour are calling for police to investigate what opposition ministers have described as extraordinary allegations that an mp misused thousands of pounds of campaign funds . pounds of campaign funds. according to the times, mr menzies used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people, who he says locked him in a flat and demanded thousands of pounds for his release. he denies any wrongdoing, but has agreed to give up the conservative whip. he's also been suspended from his role as one of rishi sunak's trade envoys to south america. for now, he'll sit as an independent in the house of commons while the allegations are investigated . downing street are investigated. downing street has refused to confirm if

flights will get off the ground this spring, in the wake of the latest blow to its flagship plan in the house of lords last night, it's understood number 10 will publish more detail about the timing of the first flights once the bill has passed through parliament. will consider parliament. mps will consider further lords amendments to the bill . in scotland, the bill next week. in scotland, the prescription of puberty blockers and gender affirming hormones for children has been paused . it for children has been paused. it follows a landmark cass review of gender services for under 18, which revealed children had been let down by a lack of research and weak evidence on medical interventions . ministers in interventions. ministers in scotland have welcomed the move, but campaigners argue the decision is the wrong one. in england, the nhs has already stopped prescribing puberty blockers , lner train drivers blockers, lner train drivers have announced another strike on saturday, leading to the cancellation of around 3 in 4 services. members of aslef will walk out for the day and ban

overtime over the weekend, in a fresh dispute over terms and conditions . the rail operator conditions. the rail operator says it will run just 26% of its usual routes between london, edinburgh and west yorkshire, equivalent to around 40 services. the walkouts are separate to the long running dispute over pay between aslef and 16 train operators, including lner. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts

i >> -- >> good afternoon. britain. it's 12:37. now. a transgender charity runner has run marathons as a man. as a woman, and as a

non—binary person to and after running in the non—binary division in the boston marathon, glenn frank has finished all six world major marathons, raising around £36,000 for charity. quite a feat. well, we're delighted to say that she joins us now. glenn, thank you so much for coming into the studio and meeting with us today, because as far as i understand it, you've got perhaps a problem with the way in which marathons and sports sort of . it's not and sports sort of. it's not quite all settled yet. it's a bit confusing for lots of people. >> yeah, it is, i think it's just again, an awareness. and what happened to me last year was quite brutal. the abuse and threats i got for entering and under simple category , because under simple category, because when i enter any race or even a job application under gender orientation , there's only orientation, there's only limited categories. so male, female , non—binary or other no

female, non—binary or other no offence to non—binary and other. i don't want to be called other. i don't want to be called other. i know who i am, i'm a transgender woman and that's the whole thing. with any sport now, any category , applications is no any category, applications is no tick box. i don't want to categorise people in that category. and i'd highlight because i got abused for that as well. just so i know you're putting us in categories. no, it's that when i enter it's just that when i enter a race, know , i'm a sports race, you know, i'm a sports person, personal trainer, race, you know, i'm a sports pers i n, personal trainer, race, you know, i'm a sports persi do personal trainer, race, you know, i'm a sports persi do doing ersonal trainer, race, you know, i'm a sports persi do doing itsonal trainer, race, you know, i'm a sports persi do doing it foral trainer, race, you know, i'm a sports persi do doing it for whizz—kidz and i do doing it for whizz—kidz this year again. and the thing is, entered under women is, i just entered under women because i know i'm going be because i know i'm going to be a transgender woman . and the transgender woman. and the athlete that called me out , it's athlete that called me out, it's her. you know, it was her when she saw my interview . you know, she saw my interview. you know, she saw my interview. you know, she could have just phoned me personally because it's all about then . oh, i cheated, you about then. oh, i cheated, you know, 14,000 other women out of a better position. i'm a charity runner. i came 6,063rd or whatever it is, and i felt quite bad. and it did affect my mental health. but luckily i'm a strong person. i've done a lot of

marathons and i've done a lot of things. just want to call things. so i just want to call for you, enter a race. the for when you, enter a race. the categories are just simple as an lgbt maybe, and that covers everybody , because now there's a everybody, because now there's a lot of people out there that don't want to be called mister or mrs, which is great. but then in the elite sport , this is in the elite sport, this is where the grey area is. so the other thing is, i hear my yamanouchi, what you're saying, and i apologise on gb news last yean and i apologise on gb news last year, to the shotputter came on. but the thing is, in elite sport then it's quite simple , because then it's quite simple, because i think that world paralympics has just announced that they're transgender category. >> so. so you want that other opfion >> so. so you want that other option so you don't have to apply. >> i'm going to say there's not there's say divisions. so there's two say divisions. so there's two say divisions. so the non—athletes so the masses, they want to know there's a lot of people out there that are shy, that haven't got a voice, that scared to speak up . the that are scared to speak up. the lgbt community, even heterosexual , heterosexual straight people, whatever that she's scared to say anything because they don't

want get hated on. so when want to get hated on. so when i speak up i see there's a, speak up and i see there's a, there's a, there's a problem in this, you know, it's not fair. there's equality and diversity. but i say, what about inclusivity? the ceo of london, you know, phoned me personally in boston backed me in chicago and boston backed me because, know, it was quite because, you know, it was quite cruel what they did. and i'm scared to run on sunday and i'm even announcing, will you be competing in. >> well, unfortunately to keep the peace, which is this is this is another issue. >> am i getting another >> why am i getting another human it's okay, you're human to say it's okay, you're non—binary this year. oh that's fine, you're right now. so you're not going to be running. you're not going to cause trouble i don't want to you're not going to cause trime.e i don't want to you're not going to cause trime glenelg. i don't want to you're not going to cause trime glenelg. i don theant to you're not going to cause trime glenelg. i don the wayo i, me glenelg. this is the way i am. want bad karma. i am. i don't want bad karma. i didn't to under women didn't want to enter under women again want the again because i didn't want the aggro. but i should have entered under the women's category. i'm not other and i'm not non—binary. >> do you feel when you so you've you've raced against men and also against women humans? do you, do you feel that that obviously the argument is that men, biological men have a have

a, have a biological advantage over women. >> are you going to say that? >> are you going to say that? >> do you feel that it is more fair you to race against fair for you to race against men, or whether you have an edge when you compare? >> is the thing with elite >> this is the thing with elite sport. there's divisions sport. now there's two divisions puberty and that in elite sport. let me tell you now , the elite let me tell you now, the elite winner in chicago, the woman i think, who just has saturn , she think, who just has saturn, she she beat half the elite men. so check her testosterone levels . check her testosterone levels. mine are probably than mine are probably lower than yours because you have t blockers. when you go on blockers. and when you go on hormone replacement, it does change and changes change your libido and changes your, change your libido and changes your , weaker. not your, weaker. now, i'm not competing woman competing against a woman because i'm stronger as a man. because my friend in south africa can lift 50 kilogram barbell curls, but it's bone size , isn't it? size, isn't it? >> because if you've been through male puberty, if were through male puberty, if i were to you, no how much to race you, no matter how much i trained, probably win. i trained, you'd probably win. >> on on sunday's >> because on on on on sunday's boston, did hours. my boston, i did five hours. and my friend girl did it with friend who's a girl did it with a broken foot and she did 4.5 hours. it's i'm telling you now, i'm a personal trainer. it's got nothing to with that. but an nothing to do with that. but an elite because there's elite sport because there's

money public money involved and public interest. yes, i agree with interest. then yes, i agree with unfortunately, transgender unfortunately, the transgender athletes that have just competed because serena williams also didn't want to compete against her because it's not official yet . and that's what the whole yet. and that's what the whole thing is. so we need to have in elite sport, if i'm racing in an elite sport, if i'm racing in an elite in you're an elite woman and i'm an elite transgender woman, you still win your accolade and your prize money. i'm racing against you . i'm not racing against you. >> so would you be then in favour of having in both elite sports and for amateurs having a separate category for transgender runners, just for categories. >> biological man, biological female. transgender man, transgender female. because i'm changing my sex whereas non—binary and sexual orientation you're not changing your sex. >> so let me ask you if you were to. so you said earlier when i said biological man, biological female, you said human. why would you still have the difference between transgender man and transgender female? there's no biological. yeah. >> this is the thing in elite sport when it comes to money, it's public interest

it's all about public interest again. and the men's again. and the and the men's game against the female game. game as against the female game. and there's always again there's this divide between male this gender divide between male and female biological even. because at women's because look at the women's football. you know look at any any say blacksmithing. you know i watch i watch britain and there's you know people on there that i'm in a female dominated world. now you're in the human world, you know, clinic sports is different. >> you've spoken about the backlash that from backlash that you got from people when you were around, around category in a around the female category in a marathon, i wonder, have you had backlash from other transgender people now that you've said perhaps there should be a separate third category? >> after london, >> well, after london, when i said they missed, mistook what i was saying about categories as in a tick box, not categorising into a pen or there's all the there's all the weird people maybe. or there's all the heterosexual people or there's all the no, just a tick box to keep the peace because i entered under one. i'm not. >> i'm under attack from both sort of gender critical activists, but also trans.

>> but i want to be the voice for transgender people and queer people lgbt and straight people and lgbt and straight people, got clients people, because i've got clients that are have got body dysmorphia, dysphoria dysmorphia, i've got dysphoria which every which are, see, ugly every morning. >> do think that there would >> do you think that there would be support broadly amongst transgender athletes and sportspeople? >> because. yeah, because in favour of having a separate trans category. because i know that again. and there was another news company that journalists from around the world were phoning me, by the way, canada, australia , you talk way, canada, australia, you talk around the world. and they said, do you give your medal do you have to give your medal and back? and your prize money back? i didn't win, you know what i mean? and i apologise. you brought in today. this is the six major marathons around the world. under my own esteem, under earn my living and under my. i earn my living and i paid. then i'm raising money for charity. >> you just hold it up for the camera again so we can all see that. this is six major that. that's. this is six major marathons , so. marathons, so. >> done 28 marathons >> and i've done 28 marathons around world. because around the world. wow. because i want the rainbow. this want to spread the rainbow. this is all about. is what it's all about. >> appreciate you >> we really appreciate you coming you for putting coming in. thank you for putting your across. it your case across. i think it will very interesting

will be very interesting for a lot people hearing idea lot of people hearing that idea for category. is that for an extra category. is that something perhaps be something that could perhaps be a a more thing in a more a more unifying thing in this debate? this very divisive debate? get in news. com forward, in touch. gb news. com forward, slash your views, your forward slash your views, your forward slash your views, your forward slash your say your say. got it wrong. >> you did it. you did it. >> you did it. you did it. >> we're talking about getting the lumina dress right. but, plenty more throughout the show, including all the latest as the government sent the rwanda bill back the lords again with back to the lords again with number 10 refusing to confirm whether take whether flights will now take off by the spring. we'll have all after this.

good afternoon. britain. it's just coming up to ten minutes to one. now, some scottish primary schools are appointing children. primary school children as lgbt champions. they are being urged

to ask pupils as young as four if they're gay, lesbian or transgender. >> the documents suggest that schools have been setting up lgbt clubs as part of their membership of a scheme run by the charity lgbt youth scotland well. >> the charity reportedly received £1 million of taxpayer money last year and also urges head teachers to mark transgender day of remembrance, as well as installing gender neutral loos . neutral loos. >> as we can now speak to dean thompson , who is a writer for thompson, who is a writer for think scotland. thank you for joining us. dean >> good to. thank you for having me . me. >> so explain to us a little bit more about this organisation , more about this organisation, given that these schools are part of this scheme, can you tell us a bit more about what it is that they're actually asking schools to do? and why people are objecting so strongly to that , the lgbt youth scotland that, the lgbt youth scotland is, an organisation that has,

like you said, received £1 million from the taxpayers , million from the taxpayers, 450,000 from the scottish government, 340,000 from councils that are cash strapped and £154,000 from the nhs boards. now, part of what they're talking about is lgbt. this should not be seen as just going into schools and saying being gay is normal. i'm gay. i would not have an objection to if that were the case. it's part of an i am has been alleged as part of an ideological push to promote, lgbtq+ i'm trans ideological and policy commitments that are more reflective of the political priorities of holyrood and sort of cut against some of the concerns that were raised, say in the cass review , about in the cass review, about clinical foundations not being as robust as they should. when we're dealing with gender children who are not

psychologically and developmentally fully formed yet , and their whole range of sort of policies that are being promoted in the schools include, getting higher marks if you have gender neutral bathrooms and things . and there's a it's quite things. and there's a it's quite a broad ideological policy agendain a broad ideological policy agenda in the schools . agenda in the schools. >> it's very curious this because i don't think a single soul on this planet should oppose people teaching that . oppose people teaching that. some people have two mums, some people have two dads, but this is something very different. this is asking children to sort of be almost advocates political representatives themselves. yes, absolutely . absolutely. >> i mean, as someone who was who is gay myself , i >> i mean, as someone who was who is gay myself, i can guarantee that i was not fully aware of my own sexuality, as it were, until i was beginning at secondary school. so the idea that a four year old or a five year old can see and fully comprehend and understand the difference between gay, transgender or questioning

non—binary is for the birds. transgender or questioning non—binary is for the birds . and non—binary is for the birds. and it's highly questionable how much of this is motivated by best practice in terms of policy? i mean, the scottish government and i've written articles, i think scotland in the past in relation to gra reform. there's real evidence and real science in regards to the whole, gender debate in scotland about policy being the result of policy capture by special interest groups, which of course undermines the robustness of policy and public confidence in the democratic outcomes that we see from holyrood in terms of legislation and lgbt youth scotland, as a charity organisation itself, it should be underscored that in the past this is an organisation that had to self refer itself to police scotland in the past over a historical allegations of abuse. so it is highly questionable why there receiving

such a volume of money, taxpayers money in order to promote political , political and promote political, political and ideological commitments in what are schools, and in in terms of the whole panoply? this is, of course, in the background of the scottish government's u—turn in relation to this sandyford clinic, has now said that clinic, which has now said that they're not going to be giving out the hormone blockers to anyone under 18. this is, of course, in light of the cass review and the scottish government initially responded with yes, it seems that the scottish government is very confused and all over the place on this issue. >> what do you think it is about the government over the the scottish government over the last couple of years that seems to gone fairly doolally to have gone fairly doolally over things. to have gone fairly doolally ove internal hings. to have gone fairly doolally oveinternal snp;. to have gone fairly doolally oveinternal snp problems, it's >> internal snp problems, it's entirely political. the first humza yousaf when he became first minister, he went out of his way to say i'm mr continuity , i'll promote nicola sturgeon's legacy. he alienated kate forbes and that whole more, sceptical

wing of the party in relation to the gender politics. and he is pretty much dependent. he put himself where he's dependent on the scottish greens in government to support himself as first minister, because there's a lot of pushback with fergus ewing and kate forbes within the snp. more generally and grassroots concerns. so he's landed himself in a position where the scottish greens are really driving a lot. >> we are running to the end of the hour here, dean, but thank you very much for coming on and talking through all that really serious with us. serious stuff. stay with us. we're debating the we're going to be debating the nhs next hour. should we nhs in the next hour. should we pay - nhs in the next hour. should we pay . appointments? pay for. appointments? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> welcome to this latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. it's a

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gb news. >> good afternoon. britain it's 1:00 on thursday, the 18th of april. the shocking story of a migrant saved from deportation by a mutinous air france crew now pleads guilty to raping a 15 year old girl. >> he will be staying in the uk. >> he will be staying in the uk. >> this comes as the house of lords again delays the passage of the landmark rwanda bill. it

had been expected to pass today. well now, number 10 refuses to say whether flights will even happen by the end of the spring. >> tory sleaze long standing mp mark menzies is stripped of the conservative whip after a bizarre 3 a.m. phone call had him demanding thousands in campaign cash to free him from being locked up by, quote , bad being locked up by, quote, bad people. bizarre. >> and should we be charging a fee to see gps? some say it's against the spirit of the nhs, while others say it will stop time wasting. we'll be having this debate in this hour, around 20 minutes. and we want your thoughts . what and we want your thoughts. what should we charge? a nominal fee in order to see gps? will that stop time wasting your comments are very welcome.

gbnews.com/yoursay we'll be having that debate in just a little bit . little bit. >> does the nhs have a spirit, you said? is it in the spirit of the nhs? >> i think i think there is a spirit of the nhs and which is sort of free at the point of use healthcare? >> know. think >> i don't know. i think the spirit nhs is to make spirit of the nhs is to make sure that many people have sure that as many people have access as access to health care as possible , and if that means possible, and if that means clearing the backlog getting clearing the backlog by getting people a little bit in people to pay a little bit in order to see the gp, then people might be willing to do that better that than having a universal better that than having a uni'itrsal better that than having a uni' it lsil better that than having a uni' it is what they in >> it is what they have in france . you have pay a sort france. you have to pay a sort of little fee. of nominal little fee. >> don't think that's an >> i don't think that's an argument sit argument that's going to sit well public. well with the british public. somehow so it somehow the french do it, so it must be good idea. must be a good idea. >> yeah. no, i think there's not much french that we much that the french do that we should although should copy wholesale. although 70% comes 70% of their electricity comes from is from nuclear power, which is great. does sound like great. that does sound like a good idea. they avoided much of the winter cost pressure the sort of winter cost pressure that did with when it comes that we did with when it comes to energy, but the question to our energy, but the question is, on the nhs, should we do this? charging because some

people say that actually that's too organisation for gp too much organisation for gp surgeries. implementing this system would be more time wasting and costly than it's worth . that's another argument. worth. that's another argument. >> it's interesting to see the labour party's comments on this , labour party's comments on this, particularly wes streeting, because the because it seems as if the labour party actually seem to think stand a better chance labour party actually seem to thiprivatising|nd a better chance labour party actually seem to thiprivatising thea better chance labour party actually seem to thiprivatising the nhs. er chance labour party actually seem to thiprivatising the nhs. so :hance labour party actually seem to thiprivatising the nhs. so maybe at privatising the nhs. so maybe those who don't want it privatised stick with the privatised should stick with the conservative me, conservative party goodness me, what turvy world we live in. >> well, we're having that debate well getting all of debate as well as getting all of the latest news stories the other latest news stories after headlines with after your headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> tom. thank you. the top stories this hour. downing street has refused to confirm if flights will get off the ground to rwanda this spring. in the wake of the latest blow to its flagship bill in the house of lords. last night. it's understood number 10 will pubush understood number 10 will publish detail about the publish more detail about the timing of the first flights for asylum seekers. once the bill has passed through parliament, mps will consider the lords

amendments to the bill next week. but the government has indicated that it will not be making any concessions. >> it's passed this rwanda bill. >> it's passed this rwanda bill. >> let's stop messing around as keir starmer was telling his lords to do last night by chucking this out again. so the commons is going to have to go and and vote it. and come back and vote on it. we've already it we've already voted for it numerous times , and let's numerous times, and let's actually break this illegal chain people being brought here. >> next is some breaking news from scotland, where the bodies of two men have been recovered from a waterfall after what's believed to have been a tragic accident. police scotland have confirmed that the men, aged 22 and 26, were pulled from the water at the linn of tummel waterfall in perth and kinross . waterfall in perth and kinross. police and paramedics attended the scene and began searching the scene and began searching the area last night. it is understood at this stage there are no suspicious circumstances surrounding the incident and investigations are ongoing . in investigations are ongoing. in other news, labour are calling for police to investigate what

opposition ministers have described as extraordinary allegations that an mp misused thousands of pounds of campaign funds. according to the times, mr menzies used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people who locked him in a flat and demanded thousands of pounds for his release. mark menzies denies any wrongdoing but has agreed to give up the conservative whip. he's also been suspended from his role as one of rishi sunak's trade envoys to south america. for now, he will sit as an independent in the house of commons while the allegations are investigated . the are investigated. the prescription of puberty blockers and gender affirming hormones for children has been paused . it for children has been paused. it follows a landmark cass review of gender services for under 18 seconds, which revealed children had been let down by a lack of research and weak evidence on medical interventions. ministers in scotland have welcomed the move, but campaigners argue the

decision is the wrong one. like other parts of the uk, scotland has seen a rapid rise in the number of young people questioning their identity or experiencing gender dysphoria. in nhs has already in england, the nhs has already stopped prescribing puberty blockers . it's been revealed blockers. it's been revealed that uk aid funding has been invested in an overseas firm that backs a social media site, offering sexual services and promoting the hamas attack on israel. mps are demanding answers from lord cameron and the foreign office following the findings in a report from the independent commission for aid, impact . more than £6 million of impact. more than £6 million of funding went to the india quotient fund last year. the watchdog's warning the uk faces a major reputational risk because of those findings . a because of those findings. a criminal gang involved in a website which taught subscribers how to defraud thousands of victims in the uk, has been shut down by british police. 480,000 card numbers belonging to as many as 70,000 people were accessed via the website lab

post, with criminals subscribing to the site taught how to access bank details and pin numbers. since its creation, the sites received just under £1 million in subscriptions from criminal users . detective superintendent users. detective superintendent helen rance says many more arrests will be made in the coming weeks. >> within the uk, we've managed to identify 25,000 victims and taking down an enabling service like this is absolutely what we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to get ahead and to dismantle an enabler such as post travel news now and lner train drivers have announced another strike on saturday, leading to the cancellation of around 3 in 4 services. >> members of aslef will walk out for the day and ban overtime over the weekend in a fresh dispute over terms and conditions, the rail operator says it will run just 26% of its usual routes between london and

edinburgh and west yorkshire, equivalent to around 40 services. the walkouts are separate to the long running pay dispute between aslef and 16 train operators, including lner and nellie the elephant said goodbye to the circus and decided to take a stroll. residents in butte, montana in the united states had an unexpected visitor as viola, an adventurous elephant, escaped a travelling circus caught on camera. viola wandered through the streets before being gently guided away and despite the drama sparking both amusement and concern among locals, viola returned home unharmed . for the returned home unharmed. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . or you can code on your screen. or you can go to gb news. com slash alerts . go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to tom and emma. >> good afternoon britain.

sorry, it's 1:08. >> a failed asylum seeker whose deportation flight was blocked has now pleaded guilty to raping a 15 year old girl. mr miller's flight to the republic of congo was stopped by air france cabin crew after claims deportation minders had taped his legs and handcuffed him. he subsequently claimed that deportation, his deportation was against his human rights and stayed in the uk. >> well, he became the poster boy against deportation flights of illegal migrants, posing with a sign saying and we're really not making this up. migrants are not making this up. migrants are not criminals. of course, you couldn't right now is he's pleaded guilty to being a criminal. but this news comes as number 10 has refused to confirm if flights to rwanda will take off by the end of the spring. in fact, that new line is what christopher hope, our political edhonis christopher hope, our political editor, is to here tell us about christopher. you were talking with the prime minister's official spokesman a little bit earlier. how did that conversation go? this deadline earlier. how did that

conve|on ion go? this deadline earlier. how did that conve|on slippingthis deadline earlier. how did that conve|on slipping .ils deadline keeps on slipping. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> some surprise mark and hi, emma. that's some surprise when as reporters, we said just just the usual question when the flight is taking off. expecting the pm's spokesman to say the spring. he didn't say that. he said we'll confirm the timing once this safety of rwanda bill has gone through the houses of parliament, that the parliament, that both the commons and the lords. we commons and the lords. now, we heard mordaunt, the heard from penny mordaunt, the leader the house of commons, leader of the house of commons, earlier there's earlier today. she says there's time set aside on monday and tuesday to push this through . tuesday to push this through. but number 10 is very clear that they said that they are they're aiming to get this through. the intention to get this through aiming to get this through. the int�*monday to get this through aiming to get this through. the int�*monday .:o get this through aiming to get this through. the int�*monday . that: this through aiming to get this through. the int�*monday . that suggests ugh aiming to get this through. the int�*monday . that suggests uglate on monday. that suggests a late sitting houses of sitting of both houses of commons and lords to push it through. at stake here are two amendments pushed by pushed back to commons by members of the to the commons by members of the house of lords last night, tabled by des browne, lord browne and david hope. lord hope tabled by des browne, lord brovthat nd david hope. lord hope tabled by des browne, lord brovthat the)avid hope. lord hope tabled by des browne, lord brovthat the formerope. lord hope tabled by des browne, lord brovthat the former the lord hope tabled by des browne, lord brovthat the former the formerope won that the former the former labour defence secretary. the latter former deputy head latter is a former deputy head of the of the supreme court.

different areas one about those who served with uk forces in afghanistan. should they be taken to rwanda if they if they come here illegally, and lord hope wanting to have regular checks on the safety of rwanda, both those are being , we're both those are being, we're being told, will not be accepted by the government. so it will be a battle royal once again on monday. what means for the monday. what this means for the safety rwanda bill is that safety of rwanda bill is that the first, the earliest can the first, the earliest he can get assent looks like get royal assent looks like thursday week. they've thursday next week. so they've lost time lost a week of their time timescale. they had always planned assent planned to get this royal assent through today, thursday. it will now next thursday and that now be next thursday and that means this spring target for the first flight is taking off. is under threat. spring, by the way, ends on june the 21st. >> that's actually rather late , >> that's actually rather late, i think, for spring ending, chris, what's the atmosphere like in in parliament at the moment? is there a kind of, you know, with all the news about, the mp recently who's just lost the mp recently who's just lost the whip? men mark menzies, this issue now with the rwanda bill,

the issues, with the raf base and the migrants being housed there is there a kind of apocalyptic feeling in the conservative party in westminster at the moment? and is there even any hope that this actually sorted out on actually will be sorted out on monday ? monday? >> well, certainly, if you look at the polls, emma , it is it at the polls, emma, it is it feels a bit apocalyptic for the tory party sir john curtice, professor of politics at strathclyde university. he gives the party 1% chance of winning a majority at the election, which i expect to be in november , i expect to be in november, others are more generous. joe twyman has said. maybe a 10% chance even delta poll. he told me on that chopper's politics podcast two weeks ago. it does feel as though it's the end of days. you see this issue today with mark menzies, the mp for fylde . he's now had his whip fylde. he's now had his whip suspended, facing an suspended, and he's facing an investigations by the tory party we hear in the number 10 lobby briefing. he now no longer is

the pm's envoy to. i'm just checking my notes here, chile, colombia, peru and argentina, that's a role which willis colombia, peru and argentina, that's a role which will is now in abeyance while he's investigated, but there's a feeling, i think, that there's opportunity here for a party which does have a notional majority of 50 or 60 in the commons that it can't get things through. and what is puzzling, i think, emma, this whole think, emma, is this whole safety rwanda bill was safety of rwanda bill was emergency legislation when it was announced by rishi sunak in november last year. it's now mid—april and nothing has happened yet, and i think it does beg a belief to describe this as any kind of emergency. we are told it's important for the government to get it through, the mps and peers through, but the mps and peers are from month long are just back from a month long houday. holiday. >> no it is it is remarkable to sort of sense that that perhaps, perhaps. chris, i know you were a journalist. you've been a journalist for a lot longer than i have, and in, in the 1990s, when things were sort of falling apart around john major, you had

all of these sort of stories of sleaze by elections. john major actually lost his majority by the end of that parliament in 1997, does it feel the same to you ? you? >> it does. it does feel a bit as though the things keep happening to this government and this party, and it's almost a pattern emerging, if they feel , pattern emerging, if they feel, yes, as you say, with a mark menzies issue this week, william wragg , last week, this carries wragg, last week, this carries on. there's always and it's about personal behaviour, of course it's denied by in the case of mark menzies and others. but yes, there's a feeling that the party is under assault from the party is under assault from the fates and almost anything they can try and get right. no one's listening properly. i thought the figures last week on the were interesting. the trade were very interesting. we're now the fourth biggest trade, trader in the trade, trade and trader in the world, up from the seventh. that's a big for brexit that's a big win for brexit britain, could argue. britain, you could argue. but few those who britain, you could argue. but few attention those who britain, you could argue. but few attention to those who britain, you could argue. but few attention to brexit)se who britain, you could argue. but few attention to brexit newsio pay attention to brexit news maybe. and i think that he's doing his best. the pm he's not

helping himself maybe with this cigarettes ban. that was what annoyed the right this week. although he did stand up very strongly, didn't he? for nigel farage braverman and farage suella braverman and miriam cates when they were nearly in brussels by nearly silenced in brussels by that left wing so he's that left wing mayor. so he's doing rishi sunak. but doing his best rishi sunak. but no one's listening yet. and they're trying make they're they're trying to make they're trying the weather. trying to change the weather. the sun is out in westminster. it's yet for the tory party. >> no, it is remarkable. this week we've seen inflation in the uk drop below the level of inflation states . inflation in the united states. isupposeif inflation in the united states. i suppose if you were to ask the average brit, they would say no, it's sunak best is not it's not rishi sunak best is not good enough. no, they're just not the time. but, not giving him the time. but, chris hope, thanks for chris hope, thanks very much for talking of that. talking us through all of that. really really, really appreciate it, really, really, in really, dark times in westminster despite the sun. but it's not just westminster. and that government that's reeling from u—turns because the scottish government has ditched its goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 75% by 2030. >> the climate change committee had already warned scotland that

the 2030 target was unachievable , and said the country had lost its uk lead in combating climate change. >> well, scotland's final goal reaching net zero by 2045, curiously remains . but curiously remains. but environmental campaigners are still branding the government's plans as a global embarrassment. raising question marks over that 2045 goal. two, shall we speak to one of those, climate campaigners, the director of climate media coalition, donna mccarthy , joins us now. donna, mccarthy, joins us now. donna, thank you so much for making the time you must be very disappointed in humza yousaf over this . over this. >> well, it is disappointing, but it is basically the reality of what the climate change committee said last month its committee said last month in its report . scotland has reduced its report. scotland has reduced its carbon emissions by 50. its economy has expanded during that time , but now the progress has time, but now the progress has stalled, the key areas of electricity has been extraordinary . scotland, now extraordinary. scotland, now producing 113% of its energy from of its electricity from

renewable resources. it's a net exporter of green electricity , exporter of green electricity, which is astonishing. however, in areas like heating, agriculture, transport, they're the stubborn ones that are not moving and the government has not been taking the actions necessary . necessary. >> vie are the snp waking up, do you think the reality of what you think to the reality of what net zero actually means and what it would take to actually achieve and is this achieve net zero? and is this something that, generally speaking , the public in scotland speaking, the public in scotland are happy with? or are they are they more pro , green energy, they more pro, green energy, more pro net zero than perhaps the rest of the uk ? the rest of the uk? >> well, the public, both in scotland and in the rest of the country are are way ahead of both the scottish government and the government on action the british government on action on change. large on climate change. very large majorities action on majorities favour more action on it. and looking at when you're talking about the reality of net zero, yes, reality is zero, yes, the reality is terrifying. look at the terrifying. if you look at the moment of the impacts on agriculture britain and agriculture in britain and across europe, we're looking at

food inflation directly linked to extreme weather, which is the most worrying one. from my perspective, you do not have a stable economy. if you've got rampant food inflation, and that's the real threat of net zero. if we don't act, is it irresponsible to be striving after net zero at a time when we actually have problems with food shortages and inflation? sorry, i just said we've got rampant food inflation linked with extreme weather linked to climate change. and you can respond to me saying, is it a responsible to act on net zero? i don't understand your question. >> i mean, is it irresponsible if there are effects farming if there are effects on farming of trying to achieve net zero? we've seen protests across the world, particularly in the netherlands, is do you think that it's therefore irresponsible, actually to be to be actions that will be taking actions that will affect farming, that will lead to further food inflation? >> sorry, what's leading food inflation? is extreme weather caused by climate change. the

farmers, the farms in england are have been under for water six months, six months under water from extreme weather. that's what's causing inflation, not action on climate change. the real issue with agriculture, interestingly in scotland is land use. emissions have gone down because they've stopped chopping trees . but what chopping down trees. but what the change commission is the climate change commission is saying they're saying is that they're not restoring wetland and the restoring the wetland and the lost fast enough to lost woodlands fast enough to take account of, to start restoring the carbon emissions that we've released. and scotland is absolutely blessed in natural resources to do that. massive amounts of woodland is the problem here that humza yousaf has run into is that they've done the easy bit, frankly, they've they've built lots of wind turbines. >> they've got the electricity grid , basically they're grid, basically they're everything else is a lot harder. and so whilst the uk government can crow about its reduction in emissions and it has been impressive, more impressive than most countries around the world, impressive, more impressive than mostinyuntries around the world, impressive, more impressive than mostin england|round the world, impressive, more impressive than mostin england and d the world, impressive, more impressive than mostin england and inthe world, impressive, more impressive than mostin england and in scotland, both in england and in scotland, wales northern ireland for

wales and northern ireland for that matter. but perhaps we've had easy bit and it's only had the easy bit and it's only going to get harder as the more difficult bits to decarbonise. come on stream. >> that's a fair question, a fair point. the, the, the electricity getting rid of coal was, was because coal was so hugein was, was because coal was so huge in terms of its emissions. and it's been a huge success story both for the british government and the scottish government and the scottish government we government that we have decarbonise coal decarbonise and got rid of coal so fast. real problem now is so fast. the real problem now is what do the car what do we do with the car culture? what do we do with our leaky housing stock? and leaky ancient housing stock? and what do we do with the addiction of british to public holiday of the british to public holiday abroad? basically 50% of the population thinks that's their human holiday abroad. human right to holiday abroad. if they could use the patriotic thing holiday britain , thing and holiday in britain, strengthen the british economy and emissions, and cut their carbon emissions, that's win, i think. and that's a win win, i think. and i see you smiling. we should do the patriotic thing and holiday in britain. >> no, you do the >> no, you should do the patriotic thing holiday in patriotic thing and holiday in the commonwealth. but. tanaka. tanaka. all we tanaka. thank you. that's all we have time for. really appreciate you coming on and talking through that big issue, that enormous from enormous u—turn there from the

snp . thank you. but, coming up, snp. thank you. but, coming up, should we be paying to see our gp? we're going to be debating that later. suggestion a surprising percentage of brits actually back measure . could actually back the measure. could it cut waiting times that debate after this

? good 7 good afternoon. britain. it's 1:23 now. almost half of us would be willing to pay for better nhs services . that's better nhs services. that's according to a recent poll. around 40% say they'd be open to paying around 40% say they'd be open to paying extra to have operations more quickly and get routine. opticians. check—ups as well as mental health appointments, with 9 in 10 respondents saying that the health service needs reform . the health service needs reform. >> is it time to start paying for nhs appointments? what do you think, tom?

>> well, they do this in france and is not. of course it's not. >> they do it in france. it's not an argument, tom. >> true, that's true. >> that's true, that's true. i might say, you know, might as well say, you know, they it north korea. it they do it in north korea. it doesn't good. but doesn't mean it's good. but i think the point here is that there are countries that sort of have a tokenistic have almost a tokenistic payment, not covering the entire cost of that. you're not asking people to sort of, you know, stump all of those health stump up all of those health care people without care bills like people without insurance the insurance have to do in the united states , instead having united states, instead having a sort tokenistic sort of little tokenistic barrier just to stop the time wasting, to stop people who go in to see a gp just to have a chat, or because they don't really need to. >> and maybe those who earn under a certain income could be exempted to. exempted from having to. >> yeah, are lots of ways >> yeah, there are lots of ways that could implement that you could implement it. but interestingly, that you could implement it. but interesunak', when rishi sunak proposed when he stood prime back stood to be prime minister back in summer 2022. but in the summer of 2022. but joining debate this now is joining us to debate this now is the author and broadcaster rebecca who says we should rebecca reed, who says we should not be paying these not be paying for these appointments, political appointments, but also political commentator russell quirk, who believes be service believes it should be a service with payments, with shortcuts to

better services for those willing to pay. well, goodness me, russell, you're the one who wants to change things. you go first. >> i do look, we've talked long and for a long, long time about innovating in the nhs. in fact, even labour's wes streeting talks a lot about innovating in the nhs. i think what we can't do in terms of improving it, and i know there's many people that believe doesn't to believe that it doesn't need to believe that it doesn't need to be we keep be improved. what we can't keep doing is more of the same, and also just sitting there with our hands out, or the nhs rather sitting there with their hands out, expecting more and more money at the nhs, money to be thrown at the nhs, as that going to as if that alone is going to solve problems. what we solve the nhs problems. what we need is some change, some need to see is some change, some innovation and i think if you end with, dare say , and i'm end up with, dare i say, and i'm sure this will be thrown at sure this will be thrown back at me second, a two tier nhs, me in a second, a two tier nhs, i think that is not only innovative, it seems innovative, but it seems entirely and practical entirely sensible and practical for couple reasons. one, for a couple of reasons. one, because effectively because it would effectively ensure that those that take the bafic ensure that those that take the basic level of nhs services would actually have more

resource , because obviously resource, because obviously there would be other people that are taking if you like, premium services. but the second reason, of course, tom, is that there would be money provided by that premium service that then of course would go on recruiting more doctors , more radiologists, more doctors, more radiologists, more doctors, more radiologists, more nurses and more equipment, which is exactly what the which surely is exactly what the left have been crying out for decades. >> but wouldn't people >> but rebecca, wouldn't people just paying twice? >> yeah , i mean, it's strange to >> yeah, i mean, it's strange to hear people saying, should we be paying hear people saying, should we be paying for our gp appointments? we pay for them. they're free we do pay for them. they're free at but a very at points of usage, but a very significant of your tax significant amount of your tax pays it, and i agree that pays for it, and i agree that nhs reform is important, but i think should all be equally think we should all be equally against system where you can against a system where you can have healthcare if you have better healthcare if you earn more money. and also, i find confusing hear about find it confusing to hear about this mooted as a new idea. if you to to see a gp you you want to pay to see a gp you can like over the easter weekend, daughter has asthma. weekend, my daughter has asthma. i wanted to get an inhaler done. i wanted to get an inhaler done. i wanted to get an inhaler done. i want wait in a&e. i i didn't want to wait in a&e. i had ability to £68 to go had the ability to pay £68 to go and gp very near my house and see a gp very near my house immediately on the dot like

that. exists already. if that. this exists already. if you want to pay for it, you can pay you want to pay for it, you can pay it. the suggestion pay for it. so the suggestion that it's to improve people's access disingenuous. access is disingenuous. what what people are really talking aboutis what people are really talking about is wanting to find ways to free more money. and free up more money. and what i find really, really egregious is the somebody would the idea that somebody would think, is my quite ill think, oh, is my child quite ill enough for me to stump up £75 to see a gp and maybe decide not to take their child because they don't have that budget don't have that in the budget that isn't right. that just isn't right. >> let's that right back to russell. >> well, one of the other problems with the nhs is, i'm afraid because it is free of charge. there is no accountability within that organisation. there's also no accountability on the basis of there being no consequences for there being no consequences for the public that uses it. which is why, on the very rare occasion that i go into my doctor's surgery locally in brentwood, sit on a brentwood, i sit there on a thursday afternoon watching the clock ticking in terms the clock ticking in terms of the amount of people that haven't shown up for their appointments. so i did that, so the last time i did that, i think on a thursday morning, 85 people hadn't turned

people that week hadn't turned up. now, if you were to charge people nominal that people a nominal amount that level of consequence and accountability would then eradicate that problem and actually ensure that waiting lists at a stroke of a lists literally at a stroke of a pen, at a stroke of a new policy being introduced , as i'm being introduced, as i'm suggesting, would actually shorten the that it takes shorten the time that it takes to the gp. so, you know, to get to the gp. so, you know, i again, what we can't be i say again, what we can't be doing throughout this, this what is now going to be an election campaign over coming weeks campaign over the coming weeks and to talk and months, is simply to talk about having to be more about there having to be more money the nhs. tell you, money for the nhs. i tell you, if were all taxed more and if we were all taxed more and the went directly into the the money went directly into the nhs , it would not improve nhs, it would not improve because the problem is not one of it is one of of funding, it is one of efficiency lack of efficiency and lack of innovation and lack of good organisation. >> you suggesting that >> so are you suggesting that charging for gp appointments wouldn't put more money into the nhs? you're saying on one nhs? so you're saying on one hand the nhs doesn't need more money, also we should charge money, but also we should charge people how people for appointments? how do those two things so those two things tally so, so because money becomes an incentive or rather a disincentive . disincentive. >> so in that respect it's not

necessarily about the money. it's the fact that it would create shorter waiting lists for gp's. i'd also go further. frankly, you won't like this very much. i would say that if you to waiting you want to jump the waiting list operation, you list for an operation, you should to pay for that should be able to pay for that privilege . privilege too. >> can you go private? >> but you can you go private? >> but you can you go private? >> ipsis let me me in >> let me ipsis let me let me in the let me put this in the nhs. >> let me put this in the nhs. let put to rebecca let me put this to rebecca quickly. you say that you, quickly. so you say that you, you, you paid 60 odd pounds and it is possible for people to, to go and pay for a gp's appointment. there are many people who wouldn't be to people who wouldn't be able to do the suggestion is do that, and the suggestion is that would be much, that the fee would be much, much lower that help clear lower if that were to help clear the nhs backlog, stop time wasters from using up nhs resources, would that not be something that you would be in favour for if it were to actually help people have better access to the nhs rather than what we have now, which is almost a universal lack of healthcare. >> but i think it's the freedom of that's great, of choice thing that's great, right? have the ability right? if you have the ability to i think you should to pay, then i think you should take it upon yourself to do so. to pay, then i think you should t.think upon yourself to do so. to pay, then i think you should t.think that's/ourself to do so. to pay, then i think you should t.think that's aurself to do so. to pay, then i think you should t.think that's a veryf to do so. i think that's a very responsible thing to but

responsible thing to do, but making that don't making it so that people don't have you know, have that choice, you know, people's income fluctuates. i might be afford might be able to afford something month something this month that i can't month. that can't next month. so having that freedom of accessibility is really, important . but really, really important. but the that your your the idea again, that your your access should access to healthcare should depend on your budget per month doesn't make especially doesn't make sense, especially if already paying into doesn't make sense, especially if and already paying into doesn't make sense, especially if and whateady paying into doesn't make sense, especially if and what you paying into doesn't make sense, especially if and what you then ng into doesn't make sense, especially if and what you then get 1to doesn't make sense, especially if and what you then get into this. and what you then get into is well, hang on, is people saying, well, hang on, i'm my private i'm paying for my private healthcare. i paying healthcare. why am i paying the same nhs ? and then same taxes? the nhs? and then you a22 tax system you get into a22 tier tax system and becomes a disaster. and that becomes a disaster. >> people shouldn't pay >> russell. people shouldn't pay twice. surely >> i think if they want to and are willing to, and it alleviates pressure on resource and allows that person the freedom of choice as rebecca's actually just setting out my argument entirely. then. then what is wrong with that? it is a matter of freedom of choice . but matter of freedom of choice. but but again, otherwise all i'm heanng but again, otherwise all i'm hearing from rebecca, respectfully, is an ideological argument. you know, it's not right we shouldn't this or right that we shouldn't this or we shouldn't that. i'm more about pragmatism and practicality and ensuring that

by way of innovating and also helping to better organise the nhs, this actually in terms of charging for, for gp appointments and also for other services within the nhs, would, would create two solutions more money and actually free up resources . it's a win win. resources. it's a win win. >> surely we need more money. you said a couple of minutes ago the nhs doesn't need more money. so how? and then saying so how? and then you're saying they do need. >> but i'm saying. they do need. >> but rebecca, i'm saying. they do need. >> but rebecca,i'm throwing but but no rebecca, i'm throwing your on on the your own argument on on the left. and forgive me for labelling left, but labelling you as the left, but i'm pretty certain you are. i'm pretty certain that you are. that hear from the left that what we hear from the left is needs be more is that there needs to be more money, and should come from money, and it should come from the i'm suggesting money, and it should come from the the i'm suggesting money, and it should come from the the so—called esting money, and it should come from the the so—called the ng that the rich so—called the middle classes pay directly without money actually without that money actually having to go through the indignity of going through having to go through the indisystem: going through having to go through the indisystem and ng through having to go through the indisystem and thenrough having to go through the indisystem and then back tax system and then back out again. it's a perfect scenario. look, envy , look, the politics of envy, though, i'm afraid, rebecca, the politics of doesn't allow politics of envy doesn't allow this system to work, because of course, those that say they can't afford it don't want others that have worked hard that can to have better circumstances. it seems okay. >> working hard and having

>> well, working hard and having disposable income are not necessarily thing. lots necessarily the same thing. lots of on very low incomes of people on very low incomes work not the work very hard. it's not the politics envy. i am somebody politics of envy. i am somebody who homeowner of a three who is a homeowner of a three bedroom house in london who uses a gp. envious of a private gp. i'm not envious of anything. i am, however, responsible and see other responsible and i see other people struggling and i worry about those people. so being socially isn't being socially conscious isn't being envious. us, myself envious. many of us, myself included. finish included. if i could just finish very much agree that the nhs needsitis very much agree that the nhs needs it is not run efficiently. we are all in agreement that the nhs is not run efficiently . the nhs is not run efficiently. the pay nhs is not run efficiently. the pay structures don't necessarily work, trust system doesn't work, the trust system doesn't necessarily from necessarily work. reform from the but the inside? absolutely. but don't ability to don't take away the ability to see a gp at three point of access because people will die. well there go. well there we go. >> we started you, >> russell. we started with you, rebecca. you . rebecca. we finished with you. fair's fair. we've to the fair's fair. we've run to the end debate. thank you end of the debate. thank you very participating. i very much for participating. i think some really think we had some really interesting sides interesting stuff on both sides there. just like to bring in there. i'd just like to bring in a comment from nick, who there. i'd just like to bring in a that:omment from nick, who there. i'd just like to bring in a that innment from nick, who there. i'd just like to bring in a that in france, rom nick, who there. i'd just like to bring in a that in france, people :k, who there. i'd just like to bring in a that in france, people pay ho says that in france, people pay ,26 to see the doctor. it's going up to ,30 very shortly and it actually makes the system work. that's what nick says. but

gbnews.com/yoursay is how you get involved in this debate . up get involved in this debate. up next, 70,000 people have been victims of a huge online fraud operation. we'll have the very latest on the police's investigation there. after your headlights . headlights. >> tom. thank you. 133 these are your top stories this hour from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer says the rwanda scheme is a gimmick and he's calling it a waste of taxpayers money. in the wake of the latest blow to the wake of the latest blow to the government's flagship bill in the house of lords last night, the labour leader's comments come as downing street declined recommit to the declined to recommit to the prime minister's spring deadline to get deportation flights off the ground. it's understood number 10 will publish more detail about the timing of the first flights to rwanda, once the asylum legislation has passed parliament. mps passed through parliament. mps will consider the lords amendments to the bill next week. but the government has indicated it will not be making

any concessions . indicated it will not be making any concessions. in indicated it will not be making any concessions . in other news, any concessions. in other news, labour are calling for police to investigate what opposition ministers have described as extraordinary allegations that an mp misused thousands of pounds of campaign funds, according to the times, mark menzies used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people who he says locked him in a flat and demanded thousands of pounds for his release. he denies any wrongdoing has agreed wrongdoing but has agreed to give up the conservative whip. he's also been suspended from his role as one of rishi sunak's trade envoys to south america for now, he'll sit as an independent in the house of commons allegations commons while the allegations are . next to some are investigated. next to some breaking news from woolwich crown court, where a man has been sentenced to four years in prison for a hoax terrorism campaign targeting primary schools, airports and shopping centres , in 2013, gary preston centres, in 2013, gary preston sent 42 envelopes containing white powder and threatening

letters that caused panic and evacuations at various locations nationwide. over a six week period. those envelopes contained talcum powder and threatening letters with arabic texts . one envelope led to the texts. one envelope led to the evacuation of a 300 room hotel. the 64 year old was arrested after more than ten years and pleaded guilty to 21 charges. prosecutors say. today's ruling is a positive outcome and preston will now spend a significant time behind bars in scotland. the prescription of puberty blockers and gender affirming hormones for children has been paused. it follows a landmark case review of gender services for under 18, which revealed children had been let down by a lack of research and weak evidence on medical interventions . ministers in interventions. ministers in scotland have welcomed the move, but campaigners argue the decision is the wrong one. like other parts of the uk, scotland has seen a rapid rise in the number young people number of young people questioning or questioning their identity or experiencing gender dysphoria in

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i >> -- >> good afternoon. britain. it's 20 to 2 now. dozens of suspected cyber fraudsters have been arrested across the uk after authorities brought down an illegal website used by thousands of criminals to defraud victims across the world. >> police have identified at least 70,000 victims in the uk alone as sophisticated online enablers, trained to train

criminals to set up fake websites, to scam victims into handing over personal details . handing over personal details. as our homeland security editor, mark white has this special report . report. >> across the uk, does dozens of suspected cybercrime . suspected cybercrime. >> well, it looks like that report was going at about half speed. something that certainly never goes at half speed is mark white himself. we can speak to mark now . we're going to see if mark now. we're going to see if we can get the tech on that programme working. perhaps these scammers have been attacking our systems. >> normally i'm normally >> yeah. normally i'm normally on about quarter speed. i think . on about quarter speed. i think. >> well mark, what is the story here. >> well it's a worrying new development in terms of the way in which cyber criminals who have got a degree of expertise in setting up these fake websites are passing on that knowledge. now to those

criminals who might be minded to make easy money through the likes of these phishing scams, but just don't have the technical know how to do this. now, i would classed, i think now, i would be classed, i think , quite comfortably as a luddite, but when i ended up police briefing and listened in on the tutorials that were part of this package that criminals would enrol in, they would see the website, they would click on this course and, you know, it was a woman that was voiceover from a woman giving instructions on how they work their browser to put on these fake websites . to put on these fake websites. and even i would be able to follow it. but now, as you can see from the vision, there , see from the vision, there, multiple people up to 48 individuals in the uk and around the world being rounded up by authorities after this investigation of more than two years that was able to infiltrate this website. lab

host. it's called and bring it down. and the authorities have now actually put up a banner heading on that site saying it is it has been taken down by authorities. they're putting out trolling messages as well. to those criminals that have enrolled on this course saying, we know who you are and we're coming after you, but 2000 criminals had enrolled on this website, paying a subscription of about 2 to £300. the website criminal masterminds behind this have made more than a million pounds through this scam. and of course, those they train have then gone on to scam many thousands of victims and of course during that have actually raised hundreds of millions of poundsin raised hundreds of millions of pounds in illegal profits . pounds in illegal profits. >> it's a hugely concerning development. mark white, thank you for bringing that to us, and good to see that there have been

quite so many arrests, actually, police but next police doing theirjob. but next up we're going to be talking to a conservative mp who's hugely concerned about what's going on in scotland . children are being in scotland. children are being appointed as lgbt champions in primary schools. that's asking children as young as four four to say if they're gay, lesbian or even transgender. miriam cates will be with us after this

good afternoon. britain. it's 1:47. now, some scottish primary schools are appointing children as lgbt champions. they're being urged to ask pupils as young as four if they're gay, lesbian or transgender. >> documents suggest that schools have been setting up lgbt clubs as part of their membership of a scheme run by a charity called lgbt youth scotland well. >> the charity reportedly

received £1 million of taxpayers money last year and also urges head teachers to mark transgender day of remembrance, as well as installing gender neutral loos . but let's speak neutral loos. but let's speak with the conservative mp miriam cates, who's very vocal on childcare issues and child safety , because miriam, i think safety, because miriam, i think everyone can see that a level of lgbt education is a good thing in schools. some people have two dads, some people have two mums. that's okay. this is something very, very different. this is going well . going well. >> beyond that it is and it appears as though, children are being recruited to an adult political cause. and of course, that's exactly what we've seen exposed through the cass review in the last week. and that's received an enormous amount of attention. with attention. adults with a particular are pushing particular ideology are pushing that ideology on children with with very damaging , effects. but with very damaging, effects. but i think the next thing that has to happen is not only to

recognise what what's gone wrong in the nhs, but also this is happening in schools. and this is a really, concerning is a really, really concerning example because of course these are children, are primary school children, these children who've not these are children who've not been through puberty. don't been through puberty. they don't have so asking have sexual feelings. so asking them if they're straight or gay is only ridiculous , it's is not only ridiculous, it's actually quite disturbing because why adult in because why would an adult in a school be asking a small child about their sexual feelings ? about their sexual feelings? this is very, very worrying. but it's being dressed up to look as though it's a diversity agenda. it's agenda . but it's an inclusivity agenda. but actually, if we think about what's happening here, it goes against safeguarding against all safeguarding principles we've to call principles and we've got to call it the back of the cass it out off the back of the cass report. >> miriam, you mentioned safeguarding given that safeguarding there, given that the this organisation is receiving so much taxpayer money, is the scottish government morally complicit in those safeguarding issues within those safeguarding issues within those primary schools ? and in those primary schools? and in addition to that, obviously the cass report is looking specifically at transgender issues. but one of the activities that these schools have been doing is having a

coming out day, which could effectively pressure children as young as four, into revealing that they are same sex, oriented , which, as you say, children that young don't know their feelings . it seems like a very feelings. it seems like a very strange thing. so do you think the scottish government have something answer to here something to answer to here in being culpable? being morally culpable? >> the scottish government certainly need to look at this carefully, and whether or not this charity is, is appropriate, to receive taxpayer funding. but of course, we know over the last ten years a number of very radical political charities have, across the uk have received taxpayer money. and that's part of the problem. that's part of the reason why so many of our institutions have become captured by some of these ideologies. so the scottish government needs to government certainly needs to look at it. but but it's not, of course, only institution, course, the only institution, that's at fault but i that's at fault here, but i think cass review is a real think the cass review is a real watermark , a watershed moment in watermark, a watershed moment in this has this ideology, because it has been revealed as as a kind of emperor's new clothes story,

where lots of people could see what was going on, that these were not children, who needed medication . these were children medication. these were children who needed help. and yet they were pushed into a particular ideology for adult political reasons. that is happening reasons. but that is happening in schools, too, as this charity is demonstrating . but in on one is demonstrating. but in on one hand, we can say it's just absurd to talk to a four year old like this, but it's actually more sinister than because , more sinister than that because, as you know, understand as you know, we understand teachers, understand safeguarding understand safeguarding experts understand that adults do not talk to children sexual feelings. children about sexual feelings. normally, we would call that grooming. with adolescence , grooming. even with adolescence, who obviously do have sexual feelings, appropriate feelings, it's not appropriate for a teacher, for a counsellor in school to ask a child directly about those feelings. that crossing important that is crossing important boundanes. that is crossing important boundaries . and it seems that boundaries. and it seems that this charity has set itself up in order to cross those important boundaries. and so there should safeguarding there should be a safeguarding investigation into the operations charity. investigation into the ope no,)ns charity. investigation into the ope no, it's charity. investigation into the ope no, it's a charity. investigation into the ope no, it's a strong1arity. investigation into the ope no, it's a strong cally. investigation into the ope no, it's a strong call you >> no, it's a strong call you make there. but i suppose there is a distinction there between primary schools and secondary schools. level of

schools. we do expect a level of sexual education in secondary schools to show children best practice, to stop abuse . practice, to stop abuse. >> there is a difference, though, between education and intrusion . there's a of course, intrusion. there's a of course, it's important to teach children facts and to educate them, but asking them individually, as, as, as people, as human beings about private sexual feelings is not appropriate in a school. it's not appropriate for an aduu it's not appropriate for an adult to speak to a child like that, whether it's 1 to 1 or in a classroom, to ask them about their sexual feelings. there's of course, there's a difference between educating children, but to ask them those personal questions not appropriate . questions is not appropriate. >> now we're running out of time. i do want to quickly time. so i do want to quickly get your former get a word on your former colleague. now, menzies colleague. now, mark menzies lost the conservative whip today. frankly, shouldn't he lost the conservative whip today lost nkly, shouldn't he lost the conservative whip today lost it.ly, shouldn't he lost the conservative whip today lost it a, shouldn't he lost the conservative whip today lost it a long, ldn't he lost the conservative whip todaylost it a long, long he lost the conservative whip todaylost it a long, long time ago? >>i ago? >> i don't know anything about the story other than what i have read. glanced at in the telegraph between meetings today, so i just don't feel

qualified to comment on it, i'm afraid. >> i suppose you've shared tea rooms with mark menzies. you've beenin rooms with mark menzies. you've been in the same party as him for, for years , this isn't the for, for years, this isn't the first scandal he's got himself into . into. >> they said. the only thing i know is what i have glanced at in the telegraph. i got a train from saint pancras at 7 a.m. i got into sheffield at nine. i've been at constituency meeting till ago and then till an hour ago and then catching up on email. so as i said, i from i've said, i mean, from what i've seen in telegraph it looks seen in the telegraph it looks absolutely but can't absolutely dreadful, but i can't comment reliably because all i've article i've done is read that article fair enough. >> well, miriam cates, thank you very for joining >> well, miriam cates, thank you very forjoining us, i'm very much forjoining us, i'm sure you'll understand, big, big story there. yet another story there. losing yet another colleague in a series of conservative sleaze stories that we seem to be getting week after week at the moment. miriam cates there. well, i mean, this has been perhaps something that is of a backdrop to which we're used now, and it does have all these all these hallmarks of what was going on in the late

john major era of government, the sleaze stories. >> yeah, i think i think people are probably feeling quite exhausted, actually, by all of this, almost westminster this, sort of almost westminster bubble, scandal after scandal after scandal on both sides of the house. i think people will be, you know, wondering what is exactly is the ethical calibre of the people who are representing them in parliament. >> yes. worth remembering. there's still a number labour there's still a number of labour former suspended former labour mps suspended without , with no without the whip, with no explanations. going explanations. but we're going to be asylum seekers in be on to asylum seekers in wethersfield after the break. apparently there have been some serious safety risks. we'll give you the details after this . you the details after this. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> welcome to this latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. it's a fine day across the south today,

but further north a lot of cloud outbreaks of rain and drizzle as well. it was a chilly old start . well. it was a chilly old start. temperatures slowly picking up with in the with a bit of sunshine in the south. north though, south. further north though, sunshine short supply because south. further north though, sunssete short supply because south. further north though, sunsset of short supply because south. further north though, sunsset of weatherupply because south. further north though, sunsset of weather fronts)ecause south. further north though, sunsset of weather fronts have se this set of weather fronts have been trickling southwards, bringing the cloud the bringing the cloud and the outbreaks won't rain outbreaks of rain, it won't rain all day. drier spells, all day. some drier spells, particularly eastern particularly in eastern scotland, and scotland, but the damp and drizzly now spreading drizzly weather is now spreading in england, much in across northern england, much of the south, though dry and fine, over over the fine, clouding over over the midlands but we'll midlands and wales. but we'll hold hazy sunshine hold on to some hazy sunshine across east across southern england and east anglia, and that cold anglia, and after that cold start, temperatures creep start, temperatures could creep up 1516 here. but up to 1516 degrees here. but it's day as the winds it's a cooler day as the winds pick up further north with the outbreaks of rain. that rain will continue to trickle south so damp over the so it will turn damp over the midlands , lincolnshire, east midlands, lincolnshire, east anglia evening. anglia through this evening. patchy rain then spreading across the south—east overnight. much of the southwest staying dry. the winds notice coming down north but actually down from the north but actually it'll be a much milder night tonight compared to last night because there'll be more because there'll be much more cloud temperatures, because there'll be much more cloud holdingemperatures, because there'll be much more cloud holding uperatures, because there'll be much more cloud holding up atitures, because there'll be much more cloud holding up at 7jres, because there'll be much more cloud holding up at 7 ors, mostly holding up at 7 or 8 celsius, so it won't be as chilly first thing tomorrow

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gb news. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 2:00 on thursday, the 18th of april. >> tory sleaze, long standing mp mark menzies is stripped of the conservative whip after a bizarre 3 a.m. phone call that had him demanding thousands in campaign cash to free him from being locked up by bad people.

very weird fishing for criminals. >> dozens of suspected cyber fraudsters have been arrested as law enforcement takedown of an illegal website used to defraud around 70,000 victims in the uk , around 70,000 victims in the uk, reborn in the usa. >> prince harry declares his official country of residence as the united states of america. fresh document filings reveal. has the prince given up blighty for good? >> i sure hope so, but the same can't be said for prince william, who's very much still with us here in the uk. carrying out his first public engagements since his wife catherine's cancer diagnosis. we'll have all the latest of his latest visit. what a contrast, what a contrast . the day we learn prince harry has given up on the uk, declared

residency in the united states is also the day that prince william gets back out there quietly , diligently getting on quietly, diligently getting on with his job. >> you know, i'm going to call it. i don't think that he really is going to give up, the uk, you think harry so readily. i think he's done. i mean , he backdated he's done. i mean, he backdated the date of in this filing to the date of in this filing to the date of in this filing to the date when he was evicted from frogmore cottage. so obviously , you know, everything obviously, you know, everything harry does has some kind of symbolic weight relating to his victimisation, his feeling hurt, the decision of the king to evict him from that cottage that was given to them by the queen when they first got married. i don't think that he's going anywhere it does seem anywhere he has. it does seem that to out of that he's had to back out of this recent case, this, recent court case, or possibly of the just possibly because of the just sheer amount of money that he would have to spend on pursuing that. and so may settle out of court as a result. so i don't think that this is going to be, unfortunately, the last we see of prince harry. >> no, is it is >> no, but it is it is interesting. it's this sort of duality. it's this schrodinger

prince harry. right, one that's a clunky statement. >> i, i think this might be the first time anyone's ever said it. >> i don't know, but at once. he wants to be private and quiet and away from the eye of the evil media. >> and then they set up a lifestyle brand and a netflix series and a podcast and a worldwide privacy tour , but worldwide privacy tour, but we're going to be getting to the, to the royals and indeed some stories a little bit closer to home as well. after your headunes to home as well. after your headlines with tatiana . headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you and good afternoon. the top stories . sir afternoon. the top stories. sir keir starmer says the rwanda scheme is a gimmick and a waste of taxpayers money. in the wake of taxpayers money. in the wake of the latest blow to the government's flagship bill in the house of lords last night, the house of lords last night, the labour leader's comments come as downing street declined to recommit to the prime minister's spring deadline to get flights off the get deportation flights off the ground. it's understood number

number 10 will publish more detail about the timing of the first flights to rwanda, once the asylum legislation has passed through parliament. mps will consider the lords amendments to the bill next week , but the government has indicated it will not be making any concessions. labour are calling for police to investigate what opposition ministers have described as extraordinary allegations that an mp misused thousands of pounds of campaign funds . pounds of campaign funds. according to the times, mark menzies used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people , who he says pay off bad people, who he says locked him in a flat and demanded thousands of pounds for his release. he denies any wrongdoing but has agreed to give up the conservative whip. for now. he'll sit as an independent while the allegations are investigated. labour leader sir keir starmer says though it's taken too long for the government to act, i'll be honest, there's a degree of frustration as well. >> we're two weeks away from really important local and mayoral elections when you know

there's a lot of positive arguments that we want to make about the change we can bring about the change we can bring aboutin about the change we can bring about in these elections . about in these elections. >> and yet again, we're talking about misbehaviour by tory mps. >> and if ever you needed evidence of why we need to turn the page on this shower and, and have a fresh start with labour, i think it's in these allegations coming out today in scotland , the prescription of scotland, the prescription of puberty blockers and gender affirming hormones for children has been paused. >> it follows a landmark cass review of gender services for under 18, which revealed children had been let down by a lack of research and weak evidence on medical interventions. ministers in scotland have welcomed the move, but campaigners argue the decision is the wrong one. like other parts of the uk, scotland has seen a rapid rise in the number of young people questioning their identity or experiencing gender dysphoria in england , the nhs has already england, the nhs has already stopped prescribing puberty blockers . it's been revealed blockers. it's been revealed

that uk aid funding has been invested in an overseas firm that backs a social media site, offering sexual services and promoting the hamas attack on israel. mps are demanding answers from lord cameron and the foreign office following the findings in a report from the independent commission for aid, impact . more than £6 million of impact. more than £6 million of funding went to the india quotient fund last year. the watchdog's warning the uk faces a major reputational risk because of those findings . a man because of those findings. a man has been sentenced to four years in prison for a hoax terrorism campaign targeting primary schools, airports and shopping centres . in 2013, gary preston centres. in 2013, gary preston sent 42 envelopes containing white powder and threatening letters that caused panic and evacuations at various locations nationwide. over a six week period. the envelopes contained talcum powder and threatening letters with arabic texts. one envelope led to the evacuation of a 300 room hotel. the 64 year

old was arrested after more than ten years, pleaded guilty to 21 charges. a criminal gang involved in a website which taught subscribers how to defraud thousands of victims in the uk, has been shut down by british police . 480,000 card british police. 480,000 card numbers belonging to as many as 70,000 people were accessed via the website lab post, with criminals subscribing to the site taught how to access bank details and pin numbers, detect superintendent helen rance says many more arrests will be made in the coming weeks. >> within the uk, we've managed to identify 25,000 victims and taking down and enabling service like this is absolutely what we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to do to tackle fraud. we need to get ahead and tend to dismantle an enabler such as la poste . poste. >> new data suggests almost a million private renters in england have been handed a no fault eviction. in the five years since the government

promised to ban them. yougov research suggests it's costing £550 million a year in unwanted moves. if other upfront costs, including rent paid in advance and deposits are factored in, that total rises to £12 billion, according to the findings. but the conservatives insist section 21 notices will be banned for the new tenancies by the general election . lner by the general election. lner train drivers have announced another strike on saturday, leading to the cancellation of around 3 in 4 services as members of aslef will walk out for the day and ban overtime for the weekend. in a fresh dispute over terms and conditions, the rail operator says it will run just 26% of its usual routes between london, edinburgh and west yorkshire, equivalent to around 40 services, and these walkouts are separate to the long running pay dispute between aslef and 16 train operators, including lner and some royal news. the prince of wales has

returned to public duties for the first time since kate's announcement that she's being treated for cancer. william's been meeting volunteers at a food distribution charity in surrey , as well as lending surrey, as well as lending a handin surrey, as well as lending a hand in the kitchen. he was also presented with a get well soon cards for his wife. the prince's last official engagement was a month ago. he's now travelling to west london to meet young people who benefit from the organisation's deliveries . for organisation's deliveries. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's over to tom and emma. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:09. now, the home office has been forced to move asylum seekers out of an raf base in essex after safety concerns were identified on the site. these include radiological

contamination and unexploded ordnance. >> it's another setback for the home office and their attempts to reduce the number of hotels being used as temporary accommodation, which has been growing, has seen growing protests from local residents. >> i'm a little bit sceptical about how genuine these these concerns are, but our man on the ground who somehow managed to survive all of the radioactive substances that are clearly around him, is ray addison rae , around him, is ray addison rae, how are you holding up ? how are you holding up? >> yeah, i'm doing all right. i'm doing all right. but must be very stressful for the people inside. the asylum seekers inside. the asylum seekers inside. i mean, just think of the situation. you've made your way through several countries. very journey. you've very dangerous journey. you've got the united got yourself to the united kingdom, you've been placed here, waiting for your here, you're waiting for your asylum claim to be processed. and out that this and then you find out that this site has serious safety risks. it could have radiation and might even have unexploded ordnance. and that's what we're being told today of course, ten

months ago, when everybody moved in here for the very first time, much against the wishes of the local residents. by the way, the home office said that this site was safe and fit for purpose. and now we find out that this u—turn is taking place or sort of a partial u—turn, because 70 of a partial u—turn, because 70 of the residents here have finally been moved back out and back into those expensive hotels that the prime minister is so keen to stop using. now, this site is one of the home office's largest accommodation facilities. it could have up to 800 people. we hear local residents here that there's just under 600, and last month they got planning permission to use this facility for these asylum seekers for another three years. and that came under a special development order. and what that meant was that they were able to circumvent the local council planning applications and things like that. by the way, the local council not too keen on this facility being used for a variety of reasons as well. now,

in that special, that special development order, there were concerns raised about contamination here at this site. and it appears that those concerns have now been realised. now there's been buses coming and going, taking asylum seekers off to the local towns and villages through the day. but just earlier on, at the start of the day, two men walked out on foot and so i grabbed a quick word with them as best i could. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'lli them as best i could. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'll haven as best i could. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'll have aas best i could. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'll have a quickt i could. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'll have a quick chatyuld. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'll have a quick chat .ild. foot and so i grabbed a quick worwe'll have a quick chat. no, >> we'll have a quick chat. no, no. are you guys worried about the contamination on the site ? the contamination on the site? where are you off to? yeah where are you going? walking. oh, what job do you have ? job do you have? >> they would. they were saying something about working then, which of course is not legal for asylum seekers to do as things stand. really curious. >> it sounds beautiful there, ray . you can you can hear the

ray. you can you can hear the birds tweeting was this site used previously for, for military personnel? i mean, we've seen a similar story , at we've seen a similar story, at raf scampton in lincolnshire, with a similar concern about contamination. if this is inhospitable for refugees, surely this would also be a problem for military personnel, wouldn't it ? wouldn't it? >> yes. it's definitely been used . you know, it's a farage, used. you know, it's a farage, a former raf base. it's definitely been used , you know, been used, you know, historically for a variety of uses , i think for both uk and uses, i think for both uk and american forces. i've been told. however, i won't pretend to be an expert in the history , the an expert in the history, the military history of this site, but i hear what you're saying, that question there, well, why have we got a problem now if we didn't have a problem before? and i think perhaps one of the reasons is a lot of the buildings in here be sort buildings in here would be sort of buildings. of prefab buildings. they will have around . and as have been moved around. and as as i've seen people coming and going, very busy site. going, this is a very busy site. i'm middle of nowhere, i'm in the middle of nowhere, essentially quiet

essentially on a very quiet country lane, but there's all manner deliveries, handymen manner of deliveries, handymen in builders, ups, not not to mention the deliveries of the mention the deliveries of the men coming back and forth from their their day trips as well. this is very, very busy. their their day trips as well. this is very, very busy . and so this is very, very busy. and so a lot of work is going on in here. i've heard anecdotal evidence from residents that they had to dig and widen the drainage system for the waste water to, to go out of the base here, because it wasn't used to that many people. and so a lot of work is going on here. and so if there have things buried if there have been things buried or left and covered over, through no malicious intent just because of the passage of time, then there is a risk that there are potentially dangerous items here in the camp . here in the camp. >> it is. it is just a little bit fishy, isn't it, that we get a boat, we get the bibby stockholm a barge. suddenly there's all sorts of problems with it. all the doors are the wrong thing for fire safety. all the it. scampton the rest of it. scampton you have problems.

have similar problems. wethersfield you just find problems. almost if problems. it's almost as if people trying to find people are trying to find problems. is this game of problems. it is this game of whack mole. whack a mole. >> make you wonder >> it does make you wonder whether bar just whether the bar is just set a lot higher for asylum lot higher for these asylum seekers than it for the rest seekers than it is for the rest of uk population. of the uk population. >> certainly them for >> well, certainly for them for the figures who had the military figures who had been years been stationed there in years past , ray anderson, thank you past, ray anderson, thank you very all of very much for giving us all of that. and indeed for braving all of that radioactivity. have to of that radioactivity. i have to say , i used to, do sort of. say, i used to, do sort of. i grew in cambridgeshire, where grew up in cambridgeshire, where a radioactive stuff was, a lot of radioactive stuff was, was developed war, was developed during the war, and distinctly remember being and i distinctly remember being told, so much. i told, explains so much. i was going bike ride that one of going on a bike ride that one of the fields to my, to my side was sort of where lots of experiments done. didn't experiments were done. i didn't do maybe it did do me do me any. maybe it did do me enormous harm. maybe it did, but in response , the home office has in response, the home office has had to we've always had this to say. we've always been clear that the use of asylum hotels is unacceptable, which is why we moved asylum seekers to former military sites , which we ensure are safe to accommodate asylum seekers prior to use. well let's hope they

have ensured that it's safe. >> downing street has refused to recommit to rishi sunak's spring deadune recommit to rishi sunak's spring deadline to the deportation flights to get deportation flights to get deportation flights off the ground to rwanda, as his bill remains stuck in a deadlock after defiant peers again insisted on changes to the scheme . changes to the scheme. >> well, earlier today, sir keir starmer was asked about the bill and whether the labour party are committed to tackling immigration . immigration seriously. >> it is absolutely important that we stop the small boats coming across the channel that has got to be done and that's why i've always said we've got to take down the criminal gangs that running those boats in that are running those boats in the first place, and i'm determined that we will smash those gangs. >> what will not help is the rwanda gimmick , which has cost rwanda gimmick, which has cost an absolute fortune , to remove a an absolute fortune, to remove a fraction of the people, £2 million per person. >> that money could be used to smash the gangs and stop this

vile trade in the first place. >> so i would roll up my sleeves and tackle this in an effective way. >> not a gimmick. >> not a gimmick. >> i do love it when politicians wear hi vis vests and hard hats and all the rest of man of the people. really pretend that they've ever been on an industrial site before. who doesn't love wearing a hi viz and pretending they're something they're they're used to a >> yeah, they're used to be a website in ppe , which website called ppe in ppe, which was about politicians with politics, philosophy and economics degrees, wearing personal protective equipment. >> brilliant . >> brilliant. >> brilliant. >> sounds like an instagram account. yeah. >> no, it's very, very funny. but shall we get some more with the correspondent at the political correspondent at the political correspondent at the ? james heale, the spectator? james heale, james, start off james, we're going to start off with this rwanda issue. keir starmer calls it a gimmick, the prime minister seems to think it's the magic solution. and the house of lords simply not playing ball . playing ball. >> absolutely. there, tom. i mean, we hoped at the start of

this week that there was going to be passed into law by the end of it, but actually, the game of ping of it, but actually, the game of ping gone on longer ping pong has gone on longer than thought. than some previously thought. the standing the lords are really standing their their their ground, dragging their heels on of this. and last heels on all of this. and last night again back. night they were again sent back. the legislation the commons night they were again sent back. the itwo.lation the commons night they were again sent back. the itwo amendmentscommons night they were again sent back. the itwo amendments which )ns night they were again sent back. the itwo amendments which are with two amendments which are now debated. now going to be debated. we think the next think, into the start of next week. really, of course, week. and really, of course, this timely because rishi this is all timely because rishi sunak previously said hoped sunak previously said he'd hoped to the by to get them off the ground by spring. i think you can just if you of play around with the you sort of play around with the sort can just sort of calendar you can just work you think sort of work out. if you think sort of six delay will six weeks delay or so will mean that take in that they could take off in june. i don't whether that they could take off in juneconsider n't whether that they could take off in june consider that whether that they could take off in juneconsider that springiether you consider that spring or summer not, but really it's summer or not, but really it's about the flights about showing that the flights and to work and the scheme is going to work before election. and there's before an election. and there's a opinion within a difference of opinion within government a difference of opinion within goverr ye s, |t a difference of opinion within goverryes,|t will you think, yes, this will be, you know, and, know, a totemic thing and, you know, a totemic thing and, you know, real know, actually works, a real deterrent. others bit more deterrent. others are a bit more sceptical it's more sceptical and say it's more about proving about at this point, proving a test of political virility and proving can be done as a sort proving it can be done as a sort of point scoring thing. but do of point scoring thing. but i do think really shows . if think that it really shows. if you immigration you look at immigration as one of concerns of voters, of the top concerns of voters, that needs done. that something needs to be done. and at point, and the tories at this point, it's years the it's been two years since the scheme announced.

scheme was announced. they really need to get the legislation and the legislation through and get the scheme running. scheme up and running. >> james, if they can't get this over what hope >> james, if they can't get this ovthere what hope >> james, if they can't get this ovthere of what hope >> james, if they can't get this ovthere of them what hope >> james, if they can't get this ovthere of them gettingt hope >> james, if they can't get this ovthere of them getting itiope >> james, if they can't get this ovthere of them getting it over is there of them getting it over the monday ? the line on monday? >> next week they'll be >> i think next week they'll be able over line. able to get it over the line. i think there was a slight think there was always a slight degree know, concern at degree of, you know, concern at the of week, given the beginning of the week, given the beginning of the week, given the tempers were the way in which tempers were rising house about rising in the upper house about this. take this. they've managed to take originally, at the start of the week, seven week, there were seven amendments. they're amendments. now they're quibbling so monday, quibbling over two. so monday, tuesday to tuesday they should be able to get the and royal get it over the line and royal assent next assent in the middle of next week . they might be week. they might thereafter be some tidying up some kind of sort of tidying up exercise rwandan exercise with the rwandan government, we government, but i think we should expect see it into law should expect to see it into law next week. >> i'll believe it when i >> well, i'll believe it when i see we need move see it, but we do need to move on this story that is on to this other story that is really engulfing the conservative party another week, another a member another suspension of a member of parliament this time. mark menzies. now, james, this isn't the first time that this particular mp has found himself in hot water. >> yes, quite. >> yes, quite. >> i mean, ten years ago i remember being in the house of commons, and walking past two mps on the day that, he was

actually featured in the news headlines. he was forced to resign as a parliamentary aide because he was caught up in a story involving brazilian rent story involving a brazilian rent boy. was described in boy. and he was described in that being a top tory. that story as being a top tory. and i remember one of the other tories saying, well, he's tories saying, well, if he's a top tories, what the what top tories, what does the what does that make me, top tories, what does the what doe yes, that make me, top tories, what does the what doe yes, it that make me, top tories, what does the what doe yes, it mark that make me, top tories, what does the what doe yes, it mark menzies1ake me, top tories, what does the what doe yes, it mark menzies is

conservative party >> i think it's the difficulty of incumbent governments, which is that over time there are less and less people, less fresh faces to put in positions, it's a diminishing return element to this , and it makes really hard. this, and it makes really hard. you boris was rare you know, boris johnson was rare in 2019. and being able to pull off trick of reinventing the off the trick of reinventing the conservatives and running against previous against his party's previous record different against his party's previous recorof different against his party's previous recorof conservative, different against his party's previous recorof conservative, i different against his party's previous recorof conservative, i thinkrent type of conservative, i think this shows for rishi sunak is now much harder , partly now much, much harder, partly because seen, you know, because we've seen, you know, pandemic that pandemic and brexit and all that sort , you amount of sort of, you know, amount of energy the energy that's taken out of the party, also because, you party, but also because, you know, in their know, everyone's fresh in their minds about happened with minds about what happened with liz truss, 18 months ago. so i think gets to the think it's this gets to the sense what anneliese dodds sense of what anneliese dodds called, know, and called, you know, sleaze and scandal around scandal swirling around the government . it's very difficult government. it's very difficult to re—energize yourself government. it's very difficult to reinvent-energize yourself government. it's very difficult to reinvent yourself yourself government. it's very difficult to reinvent yourself when elf government. it's very difficult to reinvent yourself when these and reinvent yourself when these kind of headlines are kind of sticking to you mud day sticking to you like mud day after week week, after day, week after week, month month. month after month. >> part me that >> there is a part of me that does little bit sorry for does feel a little bit sorry for rishi because course, rishi sunak because of course, this this individual, this mp this is this individual, this mp that's whip. mark that's now lost the whip. mark menzies he was an mp

menzies of course he was an mp under david cameron, chose to stay reselected , as you stay on, was reselected, as you say, in 2015 and then under theresa and under boris theresa may and then under boris johnson under liz truss. i mean he's there time. he's been there all the time. and this , these allegations, and this, these allegations, this very peculiar 3 a.m. phone call demanding money from bad people, that that is understood to have happened some time ago. >> it does raise some questions. surely about, you know, with william, with william wragg as well that it raises some questions about the, the judgement of mps, doesn't it, james, or vetting . james, or vetting. >> it does i mean but again, you know , it's sort of like, you know, it's sort of like, you know, it's sort of like, you know, there's issues around rishi sunak and i've spoken to people who criticise him for some such, know, one issue some such, you know, one issue or on this, or another. but on this, you know, could he really have know, what could he really have done? inherit the done? you basically inherit the party you're given by your predecessors, and it was a bit like government, like in the major government, a lot of things that blew up in the major government actually happened predecessor, the major government actually happenecthatcher, predecessor, the major government actually happenecthatcher, things cessor, the major government actually happenecthatcher, things like or, margaret thatcher, things like the arms the matrix churchill, arms debacle. so i think that it's really hard someone after a, really hard for someone after a,

this amount of time in government when people basically have, you know, been going up to all of stuff, know all sorts of stuff, and i know these just allegations right these are just allegations right now, like coming now, but things like coming on the the rag story, the back of the will rag story, it really hard , it just makes it really hard, for the government to go out there talk about the things for the government to go out thewants talk about the things for the government to go out thewants talk alabout,3 things for the government to go out thewants talk alabout, like 1gs he wants to talk about, like falling instance, falling inflation, for instance, when political when of course, we as political journalists all want to talk about the misdemeanours instead. >> there. >> and you're very right there. i we have these meetings every morning and we have the discussion. what is more exciting to put on the telly box? is it that inflation is down or is it that down by 0.2, or is it that someone's , been into a bit someone's been, been into a bit of hot water, a bit of scandal, although they deny the allegations. but james heale, thank joining us. thank you for joining us. really, interesting stuff really, really interesting stuff there, william there, now prince william has returned royal duties out on returned to royal duties out on his first engagement since his wife's cancer . royal his first engagement since his wife's cancer. royal diagnosis. well, our royal correspondent will keep us updated. we'll be with him .

next. good afternoon. britain. it's 2:26. now. prince william has been out of royal duties. out on royal duties for the first time since his wife catherine's cancer diagnosis. >> we can head live to our royal correspondent, cameron walker , correspondent, cameron walker, who is in felton, where prince william has been visiting . hi, william has been visiting. hi, cameron . cameron. >> good afternoon. well, this is the first time in more than three and a half weeks that we have seen prince william out on a public engagement. we did see him briefly with his older son, prince george, at the villa game last week, but all three of his children went school children went back to school yesterday . and prince william, yesterday. and prince william, clearly scenes, clearly behind the scenes, has been wife been supporting his wife following her cancer diagnosis. but very today but his focus very much today was on his work and specifically surplus food. so he visited a charity a little bit earlier today in surrey called surplus today in surrey called surplus to supper. it redistributes

three tons of food a day to various charities around the area, and this month it's celebrating a milestone that it launched in 2017 and it's going to hit 3 million meals, or the equivalent of 3 million meals saved from landfill. and one of those areas that prince william did say was helping them to pack the food, cook the food, and then it delivered. and then he delivered them here to the hanworth centre hub . but before hanworth centre hub. but before that, he was handed two envelopes by volunteer rachel. those two envelopes contained get well soon cards for both the princess of wales and his majesty the king, both of which are still battling cancer. but at this youth centre here in middlesex, they receive a box or a few boxes from from this food distribution charity three times a week. and that really helps them with those vulnerable young people who use this service . i people who use this service. i spoke to one girl, 15 year old ella, who uses that food to cook for her fellow young people and

her peers here once a week. inside this hub, she also had the chance to speak to prince william, telling me he was really earth, really william, telling me he was really in earth, really william, telling me he was really in the earth, really william, telling me he was really in the kind, really william, telling me he was really in the kind of�*ally william, telling me he was really in the kind of work that engaged in the kind of work that this centre but this youth centre does. but clearly this is a huge focus of prince william's. he's very keen on the environments on preserving the environments for future generations. sees for future generations. he sees a that, of reducing a big part of that, of reducing waste, his earthshot prize, which set up in 2020, finding which he set up in 2020, finding different solutions to repair the over the next ten the planet over the next ten years has a category in it called waste three called build a waste three world. so it all ties, all ties in to those key aims of prince william's work. so although behind the scenes he's very much having to balance his being a father and a loving husband to a wife who is clearly still battling cancer and looking after three very young children in front of the scenes in public. he's very much focused on those key words on that key work, where he tries to attempt to make the world a better place. >> but cameron , of course, at >> but cameron, of course, at the forefront of his mind, must indeed be his wife and his

father, both suffering cancer. you told us about the cards he was given. what did you notice about how he's holding himself about how he's holding himself about how he's coping, frankly, with the weight of this institution on his shoulders? more so than ever before ? more so than ever before? >> well, i think it's very early, to easy put a brave face on.and early, to easy put a brave face on. and you could really see that prince william was very much engaged with the work that he had here. i think it's fair to say that he was very touched when he was handed those two cards. he told rachel, thank you very much. that's really kind. but he didn't go into any detail about the princess's condition, as perhaps you would expect. as i said , his focus very much i said, his focus was very much on here, but clearly it on the work here, but clearly it is going to be a bit of a strain behind the scenes. there was a lot of social media speculation, wasn't about wasn't there, about the princess's condition and they asked privacy the asked for privacy over the easter so could so easter break so she could so they could, as a family, come to terms that diagnosis. but terms with that diagnosis. but i'm getting the sense from

prince really here today prince william really here today that does continue as that he does want to continue as normal public work, normal with his public work, behind with the behind the scenes with the earthshot prize. with this surplus initiative , which surplus food initiative, which he's been supporting and spotlighting today. and i think we're going to see that going forward of forward in the future. but of course, king charles is still also battling a cancer, although it appears that his doctors seem to be suggesting or sources seem to be suggesting or sources seem to be suggesting at least that things are going in the right direction. so i think it's looking positive we go looking positive as we go towards summer. towards the summer. >> cameron, just quickly, did you mentioned the you pick up on you mentioned the young person that you spoke to who said that william was very down to earth. did you pick up on the atmosphere? there? was there was there a lot of concern expressed for, kate and the king, or were people more excited just simply to see william out and about again ? william out and about again? >> i think actually there was a bit of nervousness before prince william arrived here because of course, he is incredibly high

profile figure in public life and i think the focus here for them actually was not about the princess and indeed the king. it very much was on prince william trying to spotlight those kind of initiatives when it comes to redistributing wasteful food and feeding communities , the cost of feeding communities, the cost of living, clearly something that has affected this area. i spoke to one member of the charity who said the demands for their services has gone over services has really gone up over the five, six years or so, the last five, six years or so, and having someone like prince william high profile william with his high profile spotlighting makes more spotlighting that makes more people in this local community aware of the growing problem as well. >> cameron walker, thank you very much for bringing us all of that from sunny felton, where it seems that the weather at least is on the up, as we hope is the king's health. well, up next, 70,000 people have been victims of a huge online fraud operation . we'll have the very latest on that police investigation, which our cameras have seen. but first, your headlines with

tatiana . tatiana. >> tom. thank you. the top stories. sir keir starmer says the rwanda scheme is a gimmick and a waste of taxpayers money. in the wake of the latest blow to the government's flagship bill in the house of lords last night, the labour leader's comments come as downing street declined to recommit to the prime minister's spring deadline to get deportation flights off the ground. it is understood number 10 will publish more detail about the timing of the first flights to rwanda, once the legislation has the asylum legislation has passed through parliament, mps the asylum legislation has passconsidergh parliament, mps the asylum legislation has passconsider the arliament, mps the asylum legislation has passconsider the lords1ent, mps will consider the lords amendments to the bill next week. but the government has indicated it will not be making any concessions . labour indicated it will not be making any concessions. labour is calling for a police investigation into mp mark menzies, who's been suspended from the conservatives over claims he misused thousands of pounds of campaign funds, to according the times. he used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people who locked him in a flat

and demanded thousands of pounds for his release. he denies wrongdoing. but the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says there are a lot of unanswered questions. for now. mr menzies will sit as an independent while those allegations are investigated. a man has been sentenced to four years in prison for a hoax, terrorism campaign targeting primary schools, airports and shopping centres. in 2013, 64 year old gary preston sent 42 envelopes containing white powder and threatening letters that caused panic and evacuations at various locations nationwide over a six week period. the envelopes contained talcum powder and threatening letters with arabic texts. one envelope led to the evacuation of a 300 room hotel . evacuation of a 300 room hotel. and as you've been hearing some royal news, the prince of wales has returned to public duties for the first time since kate's announcement that she's being treated for cancer. william's been meeting volunteers at a

food distribution charity in surrey , as well as lending surrey, as well as lending a handin surrey, as well as lending a hand in the kitchen. he was also presented with get well soon cards for his wife. the prince's last official engagement was a month ago . for the latest month ago. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts

good afternoon. britain. it's 2:38. now. we've been discussing , of course, an enormous number of topics today, and it's been a fast moving, news day. but it's not just us who'll be gracing your screens. of course, we're going to be going to martin daubney in just a moment to tell us what's coming up on his show,

because you will. no doubt want to stick around for it. there's an enormous amount happening today. of course, what? >> hell might be unfolding >> fresh hell might be unfolding in in westminster ? in in westminster? >> oh goodness me. well, the thing is, mps are all trotting off back to their constituencies this so think this afternoon, so i don't think there's much business in parliament, which perhaps is a big sigh of relief for everyone . big sigh of relief for everyone. after all the debacle that went on rwanda bill last on with the rwanda bill last night, no doubt martin is going to be welcome. >> welcome relief for rishi sunak that the mps are being released into wild . released back into the wild. >> oh, oh or perhaps not welcome. are they going to >> oh, oh or perhaps not welup1e. are they going to >> oh, oh or perhaps not wel up to are they going to >> oh, oh or perhaps not welup to at are they going to >> oh, oh or perhaps not wel up to at their'e they going to >> oh, oh or perhaps not wel up to at their weekends?g to get up to at their weekends? well, here's daubney well, here's martin daubney martin. what's coming up on your program ? program? >> superb show emma doing a fantastic job. complete natural. well done. what's on my show? well, rwanda suffered a nightmare last night for rishi sunak. it's about to get a whole lot worse. we've got fresh line on the rwanda bill. it's turning into a nightmare for rishi sunak. as is yet another

by—election this time. mark menzies 1990s style sleaze coming back to haunt the conservatives. now yesterday you remember , i got very excited remember, i got very excited about the biggest saint george's flag in britain , on the market flag in britain, on the market square of my home city of nottingham. today i'm asking , is nottingham. today i'm asking, is it time for a minister for flags to protect our flags? well, one tory mp thinks so , and it's an tory mp thinks so, and it's an idea that certainly floats my boat. plus, is it time to ban smartphones for teenagers? katy ball from spectator is coming on. i've got anneliese dodds from the labour party and sir steve redgrave, the olympic rowing legend , has lost his job rowing legend, has lost his job at the bbc rowing to department at the bbc rowing to department a woman, if he's not safe, is any white man. that's all coming up on my show. three till six. goodness me. >> and a smorgasbord of stories there, martin, look forward to it. we'll see you from three. now, dozens of suspected cyber fraudsters have been arrested across the uk after authorities brought down an illegal website

used by thousands of criminals , used by thousands of criminals, all to defraud victims across the world. >> police have identified at least 70,000 victims in the uk alone. a sophisticated online enablers training criminals to set up fake websites to scam victims into handing over personal details . our home and personal details. our home and security editor, mark white, has this special report across the uk , dozens of suspected cyber uk, dozens of suspected cyber criminals had a rude awakening as law enforcement here and around the globe moved in to smash a multi—million pound onune smash a multi—million pound online scam that's defrauded many thousands of victims. >> multiple addresses were raided and some suspects were pulled off flights at manchester and luton airports . and luton airports. >> you've been identified as involved in lab host, an online phishing platform which allows users to set up fraudulent websites in order to impersonate

onune websites in order to impersonate online services such as banking . online services such as banking. >> this is now the front page greeting any would be cyber criminal trying to access the services of this illegal online site . the website lab host is site. the website lab host is part of a hugely worrying development in cybercrime . it development in cybercrime. it aimed to provide an easy, step by step guide on how to download and use fake sites your page has installed and you're ready to spam. >> make sure to check that it works before starting your spam. stay safe and good! >> spamming unsuspecting members of the public would then believe those sites were pages from legitimate businesses like banks and retailers. all with the aim of phishing or fooling victims into revealing personal details, which would be used to commit fraud. >> there are unfortunately, many enabung >> there are unfortunately, many enabling services to fraud. however, together with our law enforcement partners, we are tackling them. to take out an

enabler means that we are able to take it out at source . and to take it out at source. and this, we hope, will send out a message to those using similar services that we can get their data and we will be onto them. >> law enforcement have identified at least 70,000 victims of this latest cyber scam in the uk alone. the lab host site made more than £1 million from 2000 criminals who subscribed to download its services. those attempting to access the site now are faced with a bit of online trolling from law enforcement. >> you've targeted victims all around the world. the police there may not be too happy with you. think carefully about where you. think carefully about where you go on holiday next. that was your 2023 lab host wrapped lab host is dead now with that illegal site now infiltrated and disrupted by authorities , dozens disrupted by authorities, dozens of those it was training and

equipping in the art of cyber fraud are in police custody and likely facing prosecution. >> mark white gb news, we have mark white, our home and security editor, with us now. >> mark, can i ask you , why >> mark, can i ask you, why would these criminals do this ? would these criminals do this? what benefit is it to them to share their secrets and their trade secrets with the public and anybody else who'd like to do the same? >> well, it's about making money. and they have made money. about £1 million from this one website which is hosting these two tutorials. 2000 criminals so far had enlisted , subscribed to far had enlisted, subscribed to this website. and the longer that website was running, the more money the criminals would make. and it was a step by step guide, really, for even those with the most basic of technical knowledge would be able to, once they've gone through this very short tutorial, be able to

download these scam websites alerts. so emails, text messages that would be sent out would send for those that might fall for it. people to these fake websites where they would potentially hand over sensitive of information, personal details that could be then used by the criminals to set up bank accounts in their name, get credit in their name, even apply for loans or actually directly take money from them out of their accounts. depending on the kind of information that victims were giving over to these criminals. so i think the very worrying thing about these enabung worrying thing about these enabling websites , and it's not enabling websites, and it's not just this lab host, there are multiple sites across the world that are springing up all of the time, and the really worrying aspect of it is that there was always a threshold. there's lots of criminals out there, but they don't necessarily have the know

how. the technical ability to set up scamming sites , this is set up scamming sites, this is giving them that. it will mean in the months and years ahead, that many more people will be onune that many more people will be online and looking for potential victims out there. and given that we all of us now conduct so much of our life online than it is a really , really worrying is a really, really worrying area in terms of how there is potential for people to be defrauded . and, you know, in the defrauded. and, you know, in the interactions they have from the bank accounts and with retailing sites, whatever they're doing online, they could potentially be scammed . be scammed. >> what a unique story. and what a concerning one to the sort of proliferation of these scammers. mark white, thank you so much for bringing us all of that. but isuppose for bringing us all of that. but i suppose good news there that they were caught. now coming up, prince harry declares his official country of residence as the united states of america. so is it. goodbye to blighty for good? that .

next? good afternoon. britain. it's coming up to 10 to 3 now. prince harry has officially left the country for the usa. officially. now after confirming his primary residency is no longer in this country. >> the change in residency status was seen in filings published by companies house, where the duke's country of residency is now listed as the usa . four years after initially usa. four years after initially making the move. that means it's final , making the move. that means it's final, doesn't it, tom? >> that means it's all proper and official. but let's get more now with the royal commentator angela levin . angela, thanks for angela levin. angela, thanks for making the time for us this afternoon. by this is perhaps confirming what we knew all along. prince harry is now a californian .

californian. >> yes. it's, it's a huge change of course, because how he'll be treated in the uk , how the treated in the uk, how the obugafions treated in the uk, how the obligations are far fewer and diminishing as we speak, but i think he said that because, again, he's so furious with how he thinks he's been badly treated , the date that he has treated, the date that he has changed was last year , though he changed was last year, though he actually filled in the forms last year, but they were only released yesterday. but he actually did them on the day that he and meghan had to leave frogmore castle. >> frogmore cottage, sorry, frogmore cottage, but they'd rented from the royal family, from the queen, but as they were hardly ever there and the queen had it in her mind that she would put prince andrew in there because he doesn't need a great huge mansion. but that didn't work with prince andrew. but it was enough for harry. he'd been there that year and, barely used it. and that was the end of it.

so they think, and newspapers as well have said they've been thrown out. but actually lots of people will, get a time of a year to say, to use a flat or to use a home. so i think that's just being nasty about the royal family. but, they have gone so that with that goes him possibly being a counsellor of state and these are people who can stand in for the monarch if they're away or unwell. there has to be four of them, and it has to be done by hierarchy . but the vital done by hierarchy. but the vital point is that they actually have a home in the uk, as he doesn't. that's the end of anybody's worries that he's going to sign a document one day. if the queen, or if the king or anybody else is unwell and actually vie, or hand it over to meghan and there'll be a complete disaster and fury amongst the population. so that's gone, it will also make it much harder for him to

be, looked after by the police when he comes over, because if he's not an english citizen, then he definitely won't have number one protection. and that is a protection officers with guns, the rest are not. there's lots of very good protection officers, but they're the only ones that allowed guns . and ones that allowed guns. and harry has said he can't bring his family because of that. he doesn't feel safe. but now, that's definitely out. and also he will, perhaps stop his annual yearly sort of anguish about the british press, which he's trying to, make it a whole different one and not be nasty and have misinformation . he's taken misinformation. he's taken everybody to court that he possibly can. and i think that he will not be able to continue to go on and on and on about that. >> angela, do you think that this is a sign that harry is finally accepting that he's made

his bed and he has to lie in it, and now he's going to commit himself to being a californian, and he's going to , back out of and he's going to, back out of any of these suggestions that he might come back to assist the royal family, which i'm sure many people , yourself and myself many people, yourself and myself included, i'm sure, don't want that to happen . that to happen. >> i don't think so, actually. i think it's actually he's so angry with us in the uk, so angry with us in the uk, so angry with us in the uk, so angry with his family. it's a sort of remains of spare where he feels he's just been so badly treated. and i think it's sort of, a nasty thing to do. i don't think he'll be happy doing that because he did say, and he said many times before, london is my home. i love it. and it will always be that way, and i think he's done it just to say, no, no, no, no, no in words , but i no, no, no, no in words, but i don't see him being very happy. he's a very sad man and nothing is quite right. and i think it will be something that he feels

he has to do, not really wants to do. >> angela levin , thank you very >> angela levin, thank you very much for putting it in such eloquent terms. really appreciate your, your contribution. thank appreciate your, your contforjtion. thank appreciate your, your contfor joining thank appreciate your, your contforjoining us thank appreciate your, your contforjoining us here thank appreciate your, your contforjoining us here on ank appreciate your, your contforjoining us here on good you forjoining us here on good afternoon britain. thank you. that's all we have time for. in fact, in programme up next fact, in the programme up next is and emma is martin daubney and emma webb has been a marvellous sight, sort throughout sort of co—presenter throughout today. we're back again tomorrow. >> thank you tom. so you can go anywhere. >> stick with gb news for martin daubney . but also at midday daubney. but also at midday tomorrow, it's us two again. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> welcome to this latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. it's a fine day across the south today, but further north a lot of cloud outbreaks of rain and drizzle as

well. it was a chilly old start . well. it was a chilly old start. temperatures slowly picking up with of in the with a bit of sunshine in the south. further north though, sunshine short because sunshine in short supply because this weather fronts have this set of weather fronts have been trickling southwards, bringing and the bringing the cloud and the outbreaks rain, it won't rain outbreaks of rain, it won't rain all day. some drier spells, particularly in eastern scotland, the and scotland, but the damp and drizzly spreading drizzly weather is now spreading in england, much in across northern england, much of the south, though dry and fine, clouding over over the midlands we'll midlands and wales. but we'll hold some hazy sunshine hold on to some hazy sunshine across east across southern england and east anglia. and after that cold start, could start, temperatures could creep up to 1516 degrees here. but it's cooler as the winds it's a cooler day as the winds pick up further north with the outbreaks of rain. that rain will to trickle south will continue to trickle south so it will turn damp over the midlands, lincolnshire , east midlands, lincolnshire, east anglia through evening. anglia through this evening. patchy rain then spreading across the south—east overnight, much of the south—west staying dry . the winds notice coming dry. the winds notice coming down from the north, but actually it'll be a much milder night tonight compared to last night tonight compared to last night there'll much night because there'll be much more cloud around temperatures, mostly at 7 or mostly holding up at 7 or 8 celsius, so won't be as chilly first thing tomorrow morning. we'll quite drab start.

we'll be quite a drab start. cloud and rain over wales and southeast that should southeast england. that should tend clear away, but lots of tend to clear away, but lots of showers will come over showers will come in over central parts . a central and eastern parts. a much brighter day for western scotland tomorrow. northern ireland up too, with ireland cheering up too, with some sunny spells some good sunny spells developing areas through developing in many areas through the afternoon. but winds the afternoon. but the winds still the still coming down from the north, bringing north, so still bringing a fairly chilly feel. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you all. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. coming up on today's show last night, rishi sunak rwanda bill was dealt yet another huge blow when the lords

once again revolted and frustrated the commons. and today, gb news can reveal it's about to get a whole lot worse . about to get a whole lot worse. and it's back to the 1990s. it's a tory party suffered its seventh sleaze scandal, this time focusing on shamed mp mark menzies. would it trigger yet another by—election and police have smashed a worldwide online fraud network, with dozens of cyber criminals getting arrested over 70,000 brits were conned into surrendering bank details and their pin numbers to fraudsters, and mark white will have all of the latest and help to keep you safe . and today, to keep you safe. and today, prince william made his first pubuc prince william made his first public since princess public appearance since princess catherine's cancer diagnosis. and while helping a charity cook dinner today, a visibly moved wills was handed get—well cards and promised to look after kate . and promised to look after kate. we'll have the full wonderful story. all of that coming up in your next hour