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and meghan's security in nigeria. >> meanwhile , reports suggest >> meanwhile, reports suggest king charles met with david beckham whilst his younger son was in the uk this morning. >> dozens of motorists are braced for chaos on the roads, with closures on the m25 and the eurovision final is upon us, with sweden ramping up security amid increasing pro—palestinian protests . protests. >> good morning. it's all eyes on the bottom of the premier league, with nottingham forest able to secure survival at 530 against chelsea, whose manager maurizio pochettino hints that he, not the owner, might be the one to decide on his future at stamford bridge this summer. we'll look ahead to the lunchtime old firm clash and in cricket the end is nigh for jemmy anderson's test career . jemmy anderson's test career. >> it's finally happening. a warm, sunny day across the uk today, but how warm will it get and how long will it last.7 i'll have all the details in the weather coming up soon. >> i'm isabel webster and i'm martin daubney and this is breakfast on gb news.
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>> so if you are just tuning in a slightly different look for a saturday morning, don't worry, it is saturday. i know normally in on a monday, but few people off sick and various other staffing issues. we've stepped into the breach, haven't we, martin? >> yes. delightful to be back here with you. >> likewise. well, our top story this morning. we're leading with the economy. it's good news. it's grown at the fastest rate in two years, outpacing both america and the eurozone. >> and that means that the uk is officially out of recession, with many hoping for tax cuts over the next few months. >> and this comes after the former labour leader, lord kinnock, has claimed that voters in britain are not in love with sir keir starmer, with some concerns emerging of a shock result in the upcoming election. >> yeah, if you recall, back in 1992, neil kinnock was thought to have lost an election that was deemed unusable . was deemed unusable. >> well, joining us now is political commentator peter spencen political commentator peter spencer. good morning peter. good to see you. and let's start
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with the good news, shall we. lots of reasons for number 11 to be feeling pleased, i think coming out of recession , short, coming out of recession, short, sharp recession was always, i suppose, part of jeremy hunt's plan and beating america in the eurozone. but but are we still ahead of where they would be pre—pandemic ? pre—pandemic? >> that is a very good question. and of course , a jeremy hunt is and of course, a jeremy hunt is picking up this. we've turned the corner. the plan is working. yayi we are winning at the same time, his labour shadow, rachel reeves, is saying, look, you know, we're still pretty much in the doldrums and we've had 14 years of stagnant living standards and crumbling public services. so hey, what's new guys? and actually, i'm rather interested in there's a fairly senior city economist called simon french who said, well, quite frankly , they're both quite frankly, they're both talking through their, if you're, pardon the expression, naughty bits , it's worth naughty bits, it's worth remembering that during this,
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this shallow recession, that the chancellor was saying, oh, well, look, there's really nothing to it. it's ever so chalerm and it's ever so technical. it doesn't really mean a great deal doesn't really mean a great deal. and then when we've come out of it saying, hey, everything's changed, magically corrected . and so, i mean, corrected. and so, i mean, there's a great deal of spin going on there. and of course , going on there. and of course, thatis going on there. and of course, that is heavily echoed, i have to say, by conservative supporting newspapers. but of course we are. let's face it, in a pre—election period, it's interesting because, liam halligan gb news, economics and business editor interview rishi sunak yesterday , and he actually sunak yesterday, and he actually drilled into the data to show that if you compare year on yean that if you compare year on year, not period on period , and year, not period on period, and if you add in inflation and population boost, we're actually 0.8% down per capita per head. >> so they're spinning it as best they can. but the big question is, are people actually noticing any difference in their pounds and the pence and their wallets and their purses? i would suggest perhaps they're not. >> but the expression lies, damn lies and statistics comes into mind here. does it not? no, i
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don't think. i don't see how they can possibly, be be registering this at this stage may be later in the year before the election. if we have, substantial tax cuts, they might register that. but in the meantime, no, there's that sense of just that the country has gone to the dogs and we need a change, which of course brings us into neil kinnock's thing, which i suspect, well, so. >> well, let's talk about that, because a lot of people will remember neil kinnock shock loss in 1992. he's done an interview , in 1992. he's done an interview, i think it was on radio four where he's kind of said, look, all elections are unique. 97 and 92 aren't comparable with today, but there is a scenario, isn't there, where starmer could have an upset because as kinnock is alluding to there, people don't seem to be enamoured with him. >> well, no, i mean, it has to be said. i mean, going back through the history of this, that, neil kinnock, i mean, it seems only yesterday in 1992 and he went, yeah, at a party conference and then proceeded to fall in the sea, both little
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easily and metaphorically. when john major snuck in and, and got a surprise victory and he i mean, he's he's said this to me, he said, look, i've never forgiven myself for overplaying my hand at that stage. and it is a warning to keir starmer. but then, not that keir starmer needs that much of a warning, frankly, because he's very, very well aware of the danger of complacency in the run up to an election . i mean, and when it election. i mean, and when it comes to the country not being in love with keir, i mean, the fact is when tony blair came along, he was dripping with sex appealin along, he was dripping with sex appeal in political terms, of course. and whereas a keir starmer simply does not have that same appeal, there's no getting around it. i mean, they said there's sort of a try to dress him up and say, oh, well, he's jolly solid and dependable . he's jolly solid and dependable. it reminds me of when they used to say about gordon brown, well, he's not flashy. he's just gordon, but i mean, the, the, the opinion polls, though, do
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clearly indicate that, frankly, the labour party can't do worse . the labour party can't do worse. and this lot and so although there has been one set of analysis on the basis of the local elections that suggested there might be a hung parliament, that is, local elections don't function in the same way as national elections and all the other opinion polls, point to a very clear labour victory indeed. the latest yougov poll gave them a 30 point lead, suggesting that the tories will end up with fewer than 100 seats in parliament, which is a pretty rubbish result by any standards. okay peter spence, with your analysis, always appreciated. >> thanks very much indeed for joining us bright and early this saturday morning . saturday morning. >> let's talk about tony blair sex appeal. >> i thought, well, i actually recently read i don't know why, don't ask me why, but i recently read cherie blair's autobiography. i've got a bit of autobiography. i've got a bit of a thing about reading the people who are sort of not in power , who are sort of not in power, but next to them. yeah, not
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necessarily always women, but quite often it is women . and she quite often it is women. and she was just talking about how she just couldn't keep her hands off him. she literally could. i mean, they famously had a baby, didn't they? that was conceived in balmoral when they were on one of his prime ministerial visits up there. so she clearly thought he had sex appeal. yeah. in spades. yeah. but you know, i hope you're enjoying your breakfast out there. >> it's this, this little, glimpse into your mind there. isabel you're chosen. >> you asked me to go there. no, i read a lot of political books. believe it or not, i'm a bit of a loser like that. but, yeah, i find it interesting little insight into what goes on in number two. >> i suppose he was quite, you know, he had a certain certain he was young panache for those days. >> i don't think there were that many young politicians. it was before obviously cameron as well. and margaret thatcher, let's be honest, unless you're a particular type of person, she wasn't exactly sexy. >> we know, and we really shouldn't delve into john major's, sexual activity at this time. yeah. you started this conversation. where have we gone? sorry. let's move on, shall we? okay. >> edwina currie might have something to say about it all. let's talk about travel. that's much less controversial and only
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travel if absolutely necessary. that's the warning. if you're in the m25 area, advice has been given to thousands of drivers following another unprecedented closure of one of the busiest. or is it the busiest motorways in the country, the m25? >> it is ridiculous. once again, the five mile stretch in surrey between junctions nine and ten are now shut until 6 am. on monday, causing delays and a 90 mile diversion. well this is the first scheduled daytime shutdown of all lanes on the m25 since it opened back in 1986. well, joining us now is travel correspondent for the independent, the legend simon calder. simon, welcome to the show on location as well. >> already dependable. >> already dependable. >> you know this guy is always going to be in the right location. simon the nightmare returns part two is back and it's going to be chaotic for drivers. tell us how bad is it going to be? >> well, martin and isabel, first of all, thank you for those interesting insights. just now i think it is very good that we talk about traffic this time
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in the morning. we talk about traffic this time in the morning . so, okay, the in the morning. so, okay, the m25, as you say , the world's m25, as you say, the world's busiest. oh. sorry. not necessarily the world's busiest motorway, but, it just sees an incredible amount of traffic in particular, about ten miles, from here. and the reason i've chosen this location, i'm in tolworth, which is in the south western part of greater london. that's because this is the key intersection of that diversion route. and as a truck, obviously just, roaring past, there's been quite a lot of actually , eastern quite a lot of actually, eastern european trucks going past. and that's typical because they don't necessarily know because they haven't been paying attention, understandably, that there's been massive close down of this crucial stretch of motorway last time. and we're going back to march , which they going back to march, which they managed to close a stretch of the motorway and it didn't have too much of an effect. and they say, well, that was because everyone paid attention. you
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might recall the guy in charge told everyone, decorate the bathroom that weekend, don't go out. and they seem to have, paid attention to that. the big worry today , today and tomorrow. and today, today and tomorrow. and this continues until 6 am. on monday morning, is that people will just think, well, it was fine last time. so we won't change our plans, if that were to happen , it would be, quite to happen, it would be, quite messy. not least because they're saying go by other forms of transport and you think, okay, well, i will go from london to portsmouth by train then, which you can't do because there's engineering works. >> don't tell me that that's how i'm supposed to be getting home. crikey, there you go. i couldn't work out my best route today because it was one. you know which way was worse, frankly, with the m25 closures and the train problems. oh, well, that's something to look forward to, so what are they up to on the m25, simon? and why are they deciding to do it in the daytime? surely they could do this stuff under cover of darkness. >> yes. they're basically
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replacing a bridge or putting in a bridge at a gantry. and those could be done at night. and actually we've had overnight closures fairly regularly in fairly in a number of parts of the m25 over the decades since it opened. the big problem is that you spend typically half the night moving the stuff in, and you've got half the night moving the stuff out , and as moving the stuff out, and as a result, that's going to nuremberg. by the way, i think, as a result of that, the, the valuable time for actually doing anything is reduced. there's also concerns about worker safety. and so they've taken this unprecedented step, and there's going to be three more of these in the rest of the yean of these in the rest of the year, they just say it's much better. and if you warn everybody in advance then it shouldn't be too much of a problem . although, of course, problem. although, of course, we're here. crucially, at, the half way point between heathrow and gatwick airport, the two busiest airports in the uk, and
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lots of people trying to get between the two of them, simon, one thing that leapt out at me is a bit of a nightmare. >> the 19 mile diversion goes past chessington world of adventures . there'll be loads of adventures. there'll be loads of parents in the backs of cars with their kids. been there, got the t shirt, complete nightmare, gridlock trying to get in and out of there. is there any way around that? short of being airdropped in? >> no. it's a really good point. and actually, yeah, i know you have your your helicopter on standby , but, when you're off standby, but, when you're off the air, but the, no, the crucial thing is that a lot of people are going to be following their satnav or the diversion, and that's wrong, because if you've got a car which doesn't qualify for the, emission levels that are required by ulez, the ultra low emission zone, then you are going to be okay because i'm well within the ulez here. you're going to be okay as long as you stick to the diversion route. but if you think, oh,
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chessington world of adventure, i'll just nip off down here, then suddenly you're liable for £12.50 if your car is not exempt i >> -- >> the charge c charged for the privilege of sitting in gridlock. wonderful. something to look forward to. this absolute heatwave of a weekend. simon calder, thanks very much indeed for risking your life on a roundabout for us there. i hope you're okay and see you again soon. >> mowed down by a polish truck? >> mowed down by a polish truck? >> well, i hope not, right. it's 613. let's take a look at some of the other stories that are coming into the newsroom this morning. >> and the northern lights spectacularly lit up the skies across britain last night as one of the strongest geomagnetic storms for years hit the planet. usually they are seen in the far north of the country and are caused by charged particles hitting the different gases in the earth's atmosphere. >> do send us in your pictures if you were lucky enough to see them. i'm always fascinated to see if anyone's been lucky enough. it's gbnews.com/yoursay the us has suggested israel may have broken international law using american supplied weapons dunng using american supplied weapons during the war in gaza. the
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state department said it was reasonable to assess that the nature of the conflict had created severe military challenges. however, the document also noted that hamas uses civilian infrastructure for military purposes and civilians as human shields. >> now, if you're planning your summer holidays and you might need to rethink your destinations because the authorities in the balearic islands are cracking down on excessive drinking in some tourist hotspots after locals complained of poor behaviour , complained of poor behaviour, including climbing into people's homes, the sale of alcohol will now be banned from 930 in the evening until eight in the morning . morning. >> it's the best bit i was going to say. you have to cancel your magaluf lads trip, aren't you martin? it's all off. >> what will i do all year, if you are planning on going to the lovely balearic islands, let us know if that will affect you. i mean, to be honest, i think that's a good thing. why do you need to be buying alcohol on the streets after half past nine at night? if indeed you're not just going to be causing trouble, you
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know, if buy in the nightclub, fine. buy it in the bar. but you don't have to be buying it in a supermarket or whatever, do you? >> perhaps much younger isabel may have thought differently. >> maybe same as me. that's true. >> i mean, now i'm like, get to bed, you get to bed? >> yeah. i don't even want to be in the restaurant at 9:30 anymore. anymore although in spain, maybe it's slightly different. yeah. we're going to turn our attention now to the sentencing yesterday in relation to the death of pc beshenivsky, the family and friends and colleagues of the murdered west yorkshire officer, sharon bosevski have been remembering the hero policewoman and as the ringleader of the gang responsible for her killing in bradford in 2005, begins his life prison sentence. >> sharon's friends say the dedicated officer and mother will never be forgotten. >> well, our home security editor , mark white, has been to editor, mark white, has been to bradford to look back at a crime which shocked the nation. >> a grainy cctv video is all that charts the final few moments of sharon beshenivsky life, as she's seen crossing the road, with colleague theresa milburn responding to the
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activation of a raid alarm at a bradford travel agent. just seconds later, the officers are gunned down, shot by armed robbers fleeing the scene . robbers fleeing the scene. almost two decades on, the moment justice finally caught up with the ringleader behind that robbery and murder as piran ditta khan was taken into custody at a british police station in. after years on the run in pakistan . boarded up and run in pakistan. boarded up and derelict, the site of the robbery, universal express travel agents , has long since travel agents, has long since closed down. the only evidence of the horror here a memorial stone to a fallen officer shot at point blank range. sharon beshenivsky died here on the pavement. theresa milburn was rushed to hospital and survived. she would later testify that neither she nor pc beshenivsky stood a chance that the moment
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the gunman saw them, they opened fire on the two unarmed officers, piran ditta khan, the last of seven men convicted for their part in the deadly raid, was its mastermind and captured on cctv five days before the robbery in november 2005, khan was driven up from his home in london in this audi for a reconnaissance trip to scope out the travel agents . he was the the travel agents. he was the only one of the gang who had previous dealings with the business. khan fled to pakistan two months after the robbery when he was finally captured, extradited and charged back in west yorkshire. he denied any involvement in the robbery and murder. the gang, he said, were only meant to intimidate the owner of the business, who he claimed owed him money. >> on the 18th of day of november 2005, murdered police constable sharon beshenivsky.
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>> the only reply to that charge. do you wish to say anything? >> i'm not murdered anybody. >> i'm not murdered anybody. >> sharon. theresa went to work on that day back in november 2005, fully expected to come home to their families and friends due to the horrific actions of those individuals that have now been convicted for those offences . those offences. >> that wasn't the case in a safe house in leeds. the robbers met the night before the raid . met the night before the raid. later, police searches of the property found clothing and other items belonging to the men. a workman renovating the house overheard the gang celebrations as khan told them the business kept up to £100,000 in its safe . armed with in its safe. armed with a machine pistol and other weapons , they set out the next day to rob the travel agents as khan travelled in one of three vehicles waiting outside. as three of the gang carried out
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the robbery , the owner's son the robbery, the owner's son managed to press the raid alarm that brought sharon beshenivsky and theresa milburn to the scene. west yorkshire police federation chair craig nicholls, like so many others , serving like so many others, serving officers, can remember exactly where he was when he heard the news of the shooting. almost two decades on, the tragedy is still deeply felt. >> the memory will never go away and we will never allow that memory to go away. sharon's dedication to her communities and to the communities that she served within, not only bradford but also west yorkshire, will never be forgotten . west never be forgotten. west yorkshire police will never allow that, and neither will the west yorkshire police federation and her colleagues and her friends. >> i need you do okay now. >> i need you do okay now. >> the final member of the gang who ended the life of a dedicated officer has been jailed. and at 75 years old, there is little doubt piran ditta khan will die behind bars. mark white gb news bradford .
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mark white gb news bradford. >> okay, time now to get a check on the forecast with aidan mcgivern. and i think basically based on what we're wearing, you can discern it's going to be hot today. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you on this beautiful sunny day. for many of us, it's going to be very warm into the afternoon. however, as temperatures rise, the chance in 1 or 2 spots of a thundery shower. by the time the day comes to a close. but for most people, as we begin saturday, it is sunny out there, some low cloud and mistiness around eastern parts of england that will linger around the north sea coast through the day. otherwise, inland blue skies for many, some patchy cloud developing, but with light winds and that strong sunshine, high
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uv levels as well. temperatures widely reaching the low 20s and in places the mid 20s are possible once again , then into possible once again, then into the evening as temperatures rise. well, the chance of a thundery shower or two across higher parts of central scotland. but for the vast majority it stays dry and that theme continues overnight. a bit more cloud arriving on saturday night and into the start of sunday. but it's going to be once again dry with clear spells and temperatures dipping to 12 or 13 celsius in many places. a bright start then on sunday, but some patchy cloud around . and some patchy cloud around. and then as temperatures get, higher through the morning, the chance of some thundery showers developing once again more widely this time across western scotland into western england, wales and northern ireland. by the afternoon, where these occur, they're going to be heavy with torrential rain and lightning , but they will be hit lightning, but they will be hit and miss. still some warm sunshine away from these. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of
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welcome back. now it is day two of the duke and duchess of sussex's. i don't know what you call it, really. i mean, they're calling it a tour of nigeria. whether you call it a publicity stunt or a sort of victory lap. i don't know what you want to call it. many are calling it a sort of royal tour on their
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terms. >> quasi tour? quasi quasi quasl >> yeah. whichever >> yeah. whichever >> not the real thing. >> not the real thing. >> yes, anyway. >> yes, anyway. >> but commentators noted that nigeria is actually the 12th most dangerous country in the world, and the military base harry travelled to is somewhere the foreign office advises against all travel to, and this highlighting the hypocrisy over their security fears in britain. >> yes, this comes as reports suggest the king was too busy to meet his son in the uk because he was actually having a private meeting with the famous footballer david beckham. that's got that's got to hurt. you can kind of understand, i mean becks golden balls over ginger. >> i'll leave it there. right. joining us now is the royal biographer and former photographer ian lloyd. ian, welcome to the show. always a delight. so there are no other global privacy tours this time. nigeria. what's the point of it? they're not royals anymore. is it just a showbiz ding dong ? it just a showbiz ding dong? >> they're not royals, but the reason that harry and meghan are famous is because he's the son of king charles the third and
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diana, princess of wales, who is still quite internationally famous. although she's been dead nearly 30 years now. but, it's that royal brand that, that, that royal brand that, that, that they need and it's their sort of post royal life has been waning. they've not really done very much in the last 3 or 4 years, apart from the book, obviously, and various documentaries , they need to documentaries, they need to boost the image. so they've come over here and could almost use the british royal family to have this sort of show themselves as on the world stage , if you like. on the world stage, if you like. so, i mean, i don't know, it's interesting. i saw all the documentaries in nigeria, the news bulletins , and i don't know news bulletins, and i don't know what the people there thought, who they were. you know, whether they're just celebrities or whether they're royalties. it's very unclear, i think. but, yeah, i mean , and ironic, as you yeah, i mean, and ironic, as you say, because they want supposedly privacy and they've gone on this very high profile toun gone on this very high profile tour, haven't they? >> and the key point here is the security or more to point, the
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hypocrisy surrounding it. >> don't forget, here's a fella that went to court saying that the british taxpayer should support him in all security matters while on british soil. and yet the global peace index puts nigeria to 144th least safe country on the planet. there are 72% more violent crime in nigeria than in the uk. not a peep about any of that. >> well that's it. he's supposedly or they've supposedly hired four, security people and the nigerians have put an awful lot of money behind the tour to ensure their safety . in ensure their safety. in a country where most people earn £1.50 a day to survive, you know, so there's again, a bit of hypocrisy and irony in all of that. so it's, it's you know, in in a good way, i suppose it shows what what we harry could have offered to the british royal family by going over there as a, a working royal and but it
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highlights the fact that our royal family, the working royal family, can't get over there to commonwealth countries at the moment. that's the other the other problem, the optics, if you like , what about the you like, what about the language that we've been hearing from meghan, saying thank you to the people of nigeria for welcoming her home because of course, she's discovered, hasn't she, through dna analysis , that she, through dna analysis, that she's of nigerian heritage. and yet i'm reading this morning that she actually met harry in the windsor suite at heathrow en route to nigeria, but dislikes this country so much, where she got married and welcomed into the royal family. she didn't even want to step foot outside the airport. i mean, many people would say this should be her home with harry. i mean, it sticks in the craw a bit, don't you think? >> yeah, i mean, it's, i think it's the fact that she knows she's not 100% popular here. i mean, when she was at saint paups mean, when she was at saint paul's with harry for the. i think it was the platinum jubilee, they got booed, some says there was boos the other day, so she knows her image is not 100% popular. so she probably wouldn't want to, to do
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that. and as you say, there would be irony. irony if they're supposedly feeling unsafe in this country, if they keep regularly popping back as a couple, it seems to undermine that that argument, doesn't it ? that that argument, doesn't it? >> ian lloyd, thank you very much indeed. we'll watch it with fascination, don't we, as this tour continues. but royal photographer and former photographer and former photographer indeed. thank you for talking to us this morning. >> 43% nigerian. she claims to be. yeah 43. yeah. >> it's her home. >> it's her home. >> yeah. and that's it. and she feels at home and she had this thing about, she said some kids. as i look around this room, i see myself in all of you. it's so saccharine. >> she grew up in la. yeah and also just the fact it just really has fascinated me that she would not step foot outside of the windsor suite, which is actually only supposed to be for the royals. anyway. and they're not technically royals anymore, but does she really hate this country so much she couldn't spend a night or even half an hour inside our country. she had to wait in the airport for
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harry. >> i think you're right. what was so interesting as well, when? when harry walked up the steps at saint paul's cathedral in the week, he was cheered the last time they were together, they were booed. is she the boo factor? >> yeah, but she's just not reading. reading the room, you know. anyway that's what we think about harry and meghan this morning. let us know what you think . get in touch via you think. get in touch via gbnews.com/yoursay. now brace yourselves, it's time to go through all the latest sports news broadcaster aidan magee is here in the studio with us now. >> it's all tight at the bottom, pardon my pun, in the premier league. crikey it's one of those mornings, isn't it? obviously my team nottingham forest. no visit to breakfast land will be complete without me talking about nottingham forest. but seriously, today is the day where the big drop is all the agenda. >> without doubt, it's all eyes on the bottom of the table. we should say man city are in action as well. at the top at 1230. they can go top today if they beat fulham at 1230 over at craven cottage. however, at the bottom , nottingham forest in bottom, nottingham forest in action against chelsea at 530. chelsea in decent form. just one defeat in the last 12 matches in
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the premier league. an upward curve generally . we'll come on curve generally. we'll come on to those in a moment, but a win today for nottingham forest should all but guarantee survival. i would think luton have got a very tough game at west ham at 3:00. david moyes last game in charge at the london stadium, of course, and i think generally speaking, if you look at the bottom three, i think sooner or later you have to say to them, you have to say to say to them, you have to say to yourself, the three teams that came up last season, given the problem, given the problems that that everton and forest have had with points deductions and yet still they look like they're going to survive. everton relatively comfortably. with three games to go, you have to say it wasn't particularly great effort from the sides coming out. having said that, it's not over yet. luton have showed that they have the capacity to survive. for forest it's quite reflective. yes they didn't they, they're upset that they didn't get their points deduction appeal lodge or they got it lodged but they didn't get it, get it realised didn't get it, get it realised didn't get any points back. so marinakis was disappointed. nuno espirito santo was also disappointed. but marinello the also murillo the centre back, is confident that they're going to stay up this, this this season.
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i think he's every reason to be confident because i think although chelsea can be a bit of although chelsea can be a bit of a tricky proposition, only two defeats in their last home game. home, home. ten visits to the chelsea have made to the city ground as well, so history is on their side. >> forest beat chelsea this season so the omens are good there. what this says to me though, aidan, is that look at the teams at the bottom. they've been promoted financially. it's so, so difficult to compete. that's why everton and forest spent the extra. wonga got slammed with the point deductions . does this suggest to deductions. does this suggest to you there's no real way for the teams that come up to stay up? >> well, i wouldn't say that. no i mean i think it's this could be the first time since 1998 that all three promoted sides have gone straight back down. so generally speaking, at least one stays up. most of the time it's two, sometimes even three. so i don't think i mean, i'm going back over, i'm going back to 1998 here. i'm looking at in a kind of historical context. however, it maybe just shows that that i mean, i don't want to use the phrase, but cheating prospers because it's worth it's worth throwing the money at trying to stay up, even if it means getting a points deduction. as long as you can
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guarantee that you're going to finish above three other teams. now, i think it's perfectly possible next season you could see three teams coming up from the championship who hold their own and we'll stay in the premier league. i just think it's one of those years where it just hasn't worked out. don't forget luton have got no history in the premier league. they literally dropped out a couple of months before the premier league was formed in 1992. so their starting point is far, far lower than, say, burnley, who had, what, seven years in the top flight before getting relegated back in 2022 and they came back. no one expected them to struggle in the way they have, but they haven't changed their principles. and so there are different reasons sheffield united sold their best players in the summer, so they're weaker coming into the premier league than they were in the championship last season. so it's not as easy to throw as thrown a broad brush blanket kind of analysis over it. each team has different, different issues, different challenges. if luton go down, they'll go down with £150 million in their pocket. it means they can build a stadium that they've been talking about since the 1980s. >> a quick well done to ipswich town, the tractor boys i know it was last week. i've got mates who are tractor boys fans. are they going to find it tough coming up? well of course they
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will. >> yeah. but they're in a similar position to luton. they got relegated from the premier league back in 2002. i used to cover them. it's a wonderful club. it really is. it's steeped in history. they used to vie with nottingham forest. >> they beat arsenal. >> they beat arsenal. >> they beat arsenal. >> they beat arsenal in 1978. yeah exactly. roger osborne scoring the winning goal now sadly no longer with us, he i mean you know you look at forest and ipswich used to vie with each other for the title back in the early 80s alongside aston villa. and you're seeing a bit of a renaissance with these clubs, i hope. i hope we can do it. but you could see norwich joining them as well. they're in action in the playoffs today against leeds united. >> beautiful isabel completely zoned out there. we were just talking about forest i don't blame it. so probably did the viewers apologies for that but i enjoyed the show. >> it's a big, big day for you. it's the first thing you mentioned when you walked in this morning. >> it's only thing he mentioned. >> it's only thing he mentioned. >> isn't it exciting? >> isn't it exciting? >> only thing. the only thing he mentioned. >> anyway, thanks very much aidan. we'll very shortly, we'll be swapping him with kevin schofield this schofield and emma woolf this morning. us morning. they're taking us through making news through what's making the news in a minute. don't go in just a minute. don't go anywhere.
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of the program. it's when we go through your saturday morning newspapers that start with the front pages. shall we? we shall. >> and on the times it leads. with private school enrolment numbers falling the most in over a decade due to fears of a vat on fees if labour win the election, here's the mail that's leading with the uk economy outpacing america, germany and other eurozone nations . other eurozone nations. >> after growing by 0.6% in the first quarter of the year. >> and the telegraph leads with voters not in love with keir starmer, according to lord kinnock, party insiders fear that the general election could become a repeat of 1992. >> here's the i newspaper it's leading with reports that the treasury is working on cutting national insurance by £0.02 in september . september. >> meanwhile, the mirror leads with the lawyer subjected to a five year ordeal by a stalker portrayed as martha in the netflix tv drama baby reindeer fears over what she may do next. >> i haven't watched baby reindeer, but i've been hearing lots about it. i need to watch
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that. >> i have watched it and should i say this, don't spoil it. probably not the real life person . person. >> libel. >> libel. >> anyone used to follow me on twitter and retweet me all the time , so i'm a little bit time, so i'm a little bit concerned i could be next. >> you could be next, well, we're going to go through the papers this morning in the company of the political editor at the huffpost scope, kevin scope. i don't know what i'm calling you, kev. sorry. and emma woolf a writer, columnist and journalist. welcome to both of you. and thank you for joining. i'm not used to the saturday show. i know you're not used to seeing you here. so gatecrashing the party, emma, let's start with you. it's being sort of picked up, particularly in the right wing press anyway, this morning as being a big boon. this growth in the economy out of recession. and let's face it, that has to be good news. but i suppose, as martin was sort of digging into the figures a little bit earlier, are we really in that much of a cause for celebration when we compare how sluggish we've been compared to those other nations in the last few years? and actually, per capita, we're not really doing as well as we might. >> and our real exactly. our real people feeling any better off? most people are feeling poorer at the end of this government than they were at the
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beginning of it, and that's a pretty pathetic state of affairs. we've had a dire few years, you know, we put the economy into the deep freeze over the lockdowns, over covid, all of that. so to according the office for national statistics, gdp jumped by a staggering 0.6% in the first quarter of this yeah in the first quarter of this year. but as always, you know, digging into the numbers, what does this actually mean? the population is soaring people in terms of the public services that you can actually access, there's more and more and more pressures on that. added to that, and more importantly, i think, is the fact that people have the bills landing on their doormats. they have food and fuel prices, which are non—negotiable. you know, you can be rich, you can be poor. you still need to buy your food, fuel, transport, whatever, but all still need to pay your mortgage, your rent, all of that stuff. and that is still a huge pressure on people. >> all of that could have still been the case, but we might not have had the growth. so there has to be some cause for celebration here, surely. and the chancellor was always saying he wanted to have a bit of sharp, a short, sharp recession in order to help kerb inflation. so maybe it does help with some of the issues that emma's outlining there. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and obviously rishi sunak after he became prime minister,
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that was one of his five pledges was to grow the economy so he can say, look, i'm making good on that promise. but yeah, i think the danger as well for the government is they can't be seen to being over celebratory about it, because you're right, people don't really feel it in their pockets. and if the government are jumping up and down saying, isn't it great? the economy's going great, guns. people are like, hang on a minute, you're a bit out of touch, aren't you? because i'm paying, you know, 20% more for my weekly shop, my mortgage is going up by a few hundred quid a month. you guys just don't get it. so they've got to be really careful. >> and labour have talked about this kind of gaslighting, almost gaslighting the public. rachel reeves has said that, you know, people are around £300 a year worse off, but i think people really do feel a bit, a bit kind of taken aback when they're told things are, i mean, going gangbusters saying that the economy is going gangbusters. well, people just don't look around and we're in london. but i mean, in parts in the rest of the country, even in london, things just feel quite depressed. it's better with a sunshine. of course it is. but i don't know what gangbusters they're, they're talking about. >> well, i mean, it comes down
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to what planet are they on? and kevin, that leads us quite neatly into the next story from page of the guardian, the united nafions page of the guardian, the united nations general assembly backs palestine to join them. >> yes. it's so basically this means is it doesn't straight away make palestine a full member or give it voting rights, but it's a step closer. and it wasn't even close. you know, it wasn't even close. you know, it was 143 to 9. in favour of this abstentions, 25 abstentions, including the uk, which i think is significant. but yeah, you can absolutely understand why israel has gone , nuts about israel has gone, nuts about this, decision , i also thought this, decision, i also thought it was quite interesting. i had to read the story twice , there's to read the story twice, there's no mention at all in the article about october 7, or the fact that so many hostages are still being held in israel. it doesn't kind of put into context exactly why, the war in gaza is taking place. and regardless of what you think of, the, the israeli
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government's approach to this conflict and the fact that they're going into rafah against a lot of, international condemnation, including from including from the us president . including from the us president. but i think you have to put it into context. they've not just doneit into context. they've not just done it for no reason. you know, this started in october the 7th with a horrific terrorist attack. and many, many israelis who were taken that day still remain hostage . remain hostage. >> it has it begs the question, emma, you know, hamas is the political power in palestine. there haven't been democratic elections in years. there are scant for human rights women, for people of gay. i mean, you wouldn't even want to be gay in palestine. at what point is it a goodidea palestine. at what point is it a good idea to accelerate that kind of nations joining the united nations? >> and it feels dangerous, actually, to use these kind of terrible, terrible atrocities. and obviously the sympathy that everybody feels for those suffering in gaza now, of course they do. but to use that as a way of getting, you know, as a way of getting, you know, as a way of getting, you know, as a way of justifying palestine's questionable entry into the into
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un sort of full membership, kevin's absolutely right. we mustn't ever forget. we can't let it just fade and fade because october the 7th is now six months behind us rather than three months or, you know , but i three months or, you know, but i suppose if democratic elections was the reason or the justification for rejecting somebody from the united nations, you wouldn't have russia. >> you wouldn't have china. i mean, there's plenty of countries within the united nafions countries within the united nations and just to go back to your point, you know, at the risk of sounding like george galloway, you know, if the stated aim is to annihilate hamas and they won't stop until they do that, there is an argument that that will mean the entire destruction of gaza and everybody in it, and is that at any point, you know, perhaps disproportionate to the terrible and horrific atrocity that happened on the 7th of october? >> no, listen, there's absolutely no doubt that it's absolutely no doubt that it's absolutely terrible that probably tens of thousands of innocent civilians , including innocent civilians, including many children, have died as a result of this conflict of course it is. and there has to be a resolution at some stage , be a resolution at some stage, but unfortunately, i think things like this just, lead to even more outrage and anger, and
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it makes a resolution less, less likely . likely. >> it's not on our paper's list to discuss this hour, but i just want to bring it in because it feels relevant. and obviously how this is leaked into the eurovision this year. we'll be talking about it later on in the program. there's a big row brewing. you actually have a theory, don't you, that you think israel, their contestants, are going to possibly win? yes, i do, because it could be the sort of underdog theory in all of this. but there's a hugely politicised debate now about whether or not, if you're banning russia from certain events because of their political stance, should israel be able to have a female singer ? be able to have a female singer? they're talking about rain in october. yeah. and other political issues, i mean, big debate. >> well, that's a big debate , >> well, that's a big debate, but i don't see the comparison really. i mean, russia invaded its neighbour. yeah, whereas israel was responding to a terrorist attacks. i think that's where the comparison falls down. i think it's terrible, really, that, this is really singer has now facing
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such a horrific backlash or protests outside her hotel were enormous. >> well she has to have 24 hour security now . security now. >> i mean she was going around with a convoy of about 100 police cars. she's a 20 year old girl. i mean, just think about the pressure on her of course. yes. she's a she's a singer and she's in the public eye. but it's unbelievable how this. well, twas ever thus . the well, twas ever thus. the eurovision is neverjust been the sort of, you know, kitsch music event, but it's become so politicised. it's become a virtue signalling, gesture signalling, box ticking thing as well as everything else. all the international pressures. tonight is going to be and, you know, the way it's been taken over by the way it's been taken over by the kind of pro—palestinian, the calls for boycotts and protests and everything. >> but there's always been an element of politics in eurovision, you know , dodgy eurovision, you know, dodgy block voting. let's support our east european neighbours. probably >> we do so badly. >> we do so badly. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we always seem to get beaten up every year. >> of course i've mentioned nottingham forest. >> hello. we so would have won if it hadn't been. >> no, no i've mentioned nottingham forest. >> i'm now about to mention brexit. >> oh okay. >> oh okay. >> brexit became a factor but
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this is a, this is a different level. yeah. because what's happening here is that 10,000 people outside a hotel room, including greta thunberg and a fascinating thing happened. she she performed eden golan , an she performed eden golan, an astonishing israeli. yeah. the israeli candidate and a candidate. >> candidate . i mean, it even >> candidate. i mean, it even sounds like a politician. >> yeah, yeah , i'm using the >> yeah, yeah, i'm using the language of that. >> yeah, an astonishing performance against all the odds that she was booed and harangued. but they edited that out. she made the final. what's happened now is she's the bookies second favourite to win because i believe people are going to vote for somebody who they think is being bullied. there's going to be a backlash . there's going to be a backlash. i think israel are a sneaky candidate to win. i've got 20. i know you've got £20. >> i was thinking last night, i've never bet for and i was thinking , i've never bet for and i was thinking, how would you find a betting shop? >> how would i do this ratings booster? i hate to be cynical tv element, but more people tune in. >> absolutely to see if she wins and encourages all of this controversy behind the scenes. >> absolutely. who knows , let's
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>> absolutely. who knows, let's get back to our list then. sorry, we went on a bit of a eurovision tangent there, tonight. >> yeah, yeah. let's talk about cancer cases , emma, half of cancer cases, emma, half of which are linked to obesity. and this is on the front of the telegraph this morning. >> i've been saying for a very, very long time that the big health crisis of our times is not covid. it's obesity. and just go to a hospital, just look around the population. anyway, this is a big, big, big study. credible study from lund university in malmo. again, malmo, a study of over 4 million adults followed them over 40 years and has found great links. i mean , significant, i think i mean, significant, i think about 40% link between excess weight and specific 32 different types of cancer . and weight and specific 32 different types of cancer. and you weight and specific 32 different types of cancer . and you know, types of cancer. and you know, we can keep ignoring this. we can keep pussyfooting around the fact that people are becoming obese and increasingly unhealthy and increasingly then falling prey to the things which are unked prey to the things which are linked to that, like diabetes, heart attack, stroke, heart disease, all of those things, plus cancer, of course. >> obviously that's awful for their own personal health, but
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it also has an impact on all of us as taxpayers . massive us as taxpayers. massive pressures on the nhs, nhs, which, you know, i feel like there should be a kind of moral conscience to try and get people to lose weight, even if they don't want to do it for themselves, they should do it for us. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> but and yet, you know, successive governments have covered so many stories about it, you know, cracking down on obesity, encouraging people to eat more healthily, sugar taxes, fat taxes . but it never seems it fat taxes. but it never seems it never seems to work. you know, people , because we live we live people, because we live we live in a obesogenic society . in a obesogenic society. >> we live in a society where we move far, far, far less because everybody is sitting on screens or ordering an uber or just not or ordering an uber orjust not moving. we don't need to move. we don't need to do physical housework or anything, and eating more calories are now cheap, cheerful junk. and we're empty calories and depressed, anxious feelings. why do you think that we're asian? i mean, it's just obesity is people like kevin , anyone who's thinking kevin, anyone who's thinking about sending their child to a private school or has tragically got themselves into the handcuffs of already paying school fees is in for a shock when labour come along. >> and this is having an effect
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on enrolment numbers, according to the front page of the times. >> well, i mean, labour have been very clear. >> this is one policy that they're sticking to at the moment. they haven't rolled back on this one yet and said that they will basically bring they'll change the rules so that there's vat applied , to fees there's vat applied, to fees that will potentially put fees up that will potentially put fees ”p by that will potentially put fees up by 20, depending on how schools want to handle that. and, there's figures coming out next week which, which will show the enrolment at independent schools have fallen . now we schools have fallen. now we don't know for certain that's because of what labour party do. but i think it's safe to say it's the biggest drop in safety . it's the biggest drop in safety. say that it's probably that's what it's to do with i mean, overall , when you drill down overall, when you drill down into the figures, it shows that there'll be a 0.1% decrease in there'll be a 0.1% decrease in the overall numbers of pupils at private schools. so that's not a big fall. however enrolments have fallen by 2.7% in this academic year, which is obviously quite considerable. i think a lot of people will probably struggle to feel much sympathy for folk who can afford to send their kids to private school. >> however, however however, our audience, however, a lot of if
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it means that they'll have to pull their kids out of private school to then go into state school to then go into state school , then it's actually the school, then it's actually the taxpayer pick up the slack . taxpayer pick up the slack. >> i just say, all of us, as somebody who proudly went to a comprehensive who had for many years had a chip on my shoulder about private schools, i got it wrong because a lot of very hard working, working class people, you see it like shop owners, you know, they put everything they've got into getting their child into a private school . child into a private school. they're the ones who'll be forced out, not the chinese overseas students who won't bat an eyelid about the vat. >> they won't make a difference. >> they won't make a difference. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> and as someone who is one of five kids and my parents never had any spare money, but they sent all of us to private schools on a on a combination of scholarships, bursaries and then saving, you know , people can saving, you know, people can choose what to spend their money on.and choose what to spend their money on. and as you say, some people really do save up for that and do make it their priority rather than foreign holidays or, you know, new cars. >> my parents were the same. they worked really, really hard . they worked really, really hard. both architects, not huge salaries. my brother and i both got scholarships to private school. i remember them struggling. i remember we didn't take foreign holidays some summers and it was a huge
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commitment. they were just really keen to do it. but what i'm reading and what i'm hearing from the independent sector is that even if a small percentage or a significant percentage of a small school has a fall in in enrolment or people being withdrawn, that could then lead to the closure of the school as a whole, because it's not sustainable and labour needs, and that has a huge impact on those state schools, then it is the wealthy, middle class parents who can afford to be near the good ones. yeah and then with the sharp elbows, advantaged backgrounds that get shoved and labour need to be careful what they wish for, because actually the pressure on state schools with pushy middle class sort of previously private school parents is going to be really quite intense. >> these policy decisions don't happenin >> these policy decisions don't happen in a vacuum. >> there's always a, you know, a knock on effect. >> but i wonder if the labour party get that. i mean, we all seem to comprehend that there is a knock on effect. those houses get hoovered up by the wealthier and the working class get shoved out . they end and the working class get shoved out. they end up in the and the working class get shoved out . they end up in the bucket out. they end up in the bucket schools and round and round we go. and the wealthiest don't care. >> well, i think the labour party do get it. and they've made a calculation politically that actually this is worth it
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because of the people like you who describe having a bit of a chip on their shoulder. they see people who are sending their kids to private school as toffs. and this is like a politics of envy. but they're wrong. they might be wrong, but it might be successful at the ballot box for them as a policy , who knows? them as a policy, who knows? >> but they might live to regret it further down the line. >> yeah . go on then. you you >> yeah. go on then. you you choose where we go next time. >> for anything else, let's have a let's have a little talk about the solar flare. can we, that could disturb the internet. this actually might do humanity a favour . our actually might do humanity a favour. our phones might switch off. >> well, actually, when you read the story, however, it's already out of date because , these solar out of date because, these solar flares or sunburn , as the star flares or sunburn, as the star decides to call it, they were due to hit at 2 am, which was about five hours ago. and the last time i checked in and it was still working. well, we're still here. yeah. and the electricity hasn't gone down. >> so, is this anything to do with the northern lights that are totally different ? are totally different? >> no, i wondered whether it was. but i think that's a complete solar flare where was it? >> we missed this. >> we missed this. >> yeah, that's a long story.
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show a quick blast about having a p0p show a quick blast about having a pop at the sussexes in nigeria. >> oh, go on then. you've got minute. >> this is this is not the royal toun >> this is this is not the royal tour. tour? yeah. so this is not the royal tour. tour, tour. so they had all their favourite things. they had women's empowerment. they had a visit to a school they had gushing about mental health. they had a bit of polo, polo fundraiser for harry, loads of outfit changes . meghan loads of outfit changes. meghan looking utterly flawless in a kind of gown in the middle of nigeria. she's discovered, as you said earlier, she's discovered that she's 43% nigerian and she thanks them for welcoming her home. well, i mean, i just sort of i'm slightly speechless at this stage. >> she said. she feels at home there many people from gb news land might say, well, stay there andisnt land might say, well, stay there and isn't it hilarious about her? >> not even. >> not even. >> it's odd because they aren't royals and they've purposefully decided not to be royals, presumably because of that type of thing that they would have to do. or maybe do it once in a while , you know? while, you know? >> well, that's what they wanted to do. they put their toe in it. yeah. >> worshipped and adored, but just on their timetable. >> it's very odd . >> it's very odd. >> it's very odd. >> well, it is in their world, that's the end of our paper's
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world. thank you for now. we'll see more from both emma and kevin after 7:30. but for now, here's aidan mcgivern with a check on your saturday forecast . check on your saturday forecast. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you on this beautiful sunny day. for many of us, it's going to be very warm into the afternoon. however, as temperatures rise, the chance in 1 or 2 spots of a thundery shower by the time the day comes to a close. but for most people, as we begin saturday, it is sunny out there, some low cloud and mistiness around eastern parts of england that will linger around the nonh that will linger around the north sea coast through the day . north sea coast through the day. otherwise inland blue skies for many, some patchy cloud developing but with light winds and that strong sunshine. high uv levels as well. temperatures widely reaching the low 20s and in places the mid 20s are possible once again, then into
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the evening as temperatures rise well, the chance of a thundery shower or two across higher parts of central scotland. but for the vast majority it stays dry. and that theme continues overnight . a bit more cloud overnight. a bit more cloud arriving on saturday night and into the start of sunday, but it's going to be once again dry, with clear spells and temperatures dipping to 12 or 13 celsius in many places. a bright start then on sunday, but some patchy cloud around and then as temperatures get, higher through the morning , the chance of some the morning, the chance of some thundery showers developing once again, more widely, this time across western scotland into western england, wales and northern ireland. by the afternoon where these occur, they're going to be heavy with torrential rain and lightning, but they will be hit and miss. still some warm sunshine away from these. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news.
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on. gb news. >> where you don't have to readjust your sets. it is martin and isabel in on a saturday. we're here all the way until 10:00. we've got plenty more coming up for you after this break, including all the latest on the eurovision row. see you in
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very good morning to you. it is fast approaching 7:00 on saturday, the 11th of may. today are things looking up for the prime minister? the economy has grown at the fastest rate in two years, outpacing both america and the eurozone . yes. and the eurozone. yes. >> the chief economist at the ons says the economy is, quote, going gangbusters. ons says the economy is, quote, going gangbusters . might it be going gangbusters. might it be enough to start to close the polls and give rishi sunak a little bit of hope for the general election ? general election? >> gangbusters. now a former leader of the labour party, claims voters aren't in love with keir starmer, with opposition mps fear in the country could see a shock result in the upcoming general election
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, reminiscent of 1992. >> a right royal hypocrisy critics hit out at the sussexes dunng critics hit out at the sussexes during their tour of nigeria. the 12th most dangerous country in the world, after he questioned his own security here in the uk . in the uk. >> and this morning, dozens of motorists are brace for chaos on the roads. dozens say thousands with closures on the m25 and the eurovision final up to 6000 vehicles in both directions. >> could we take out dozens tailbacks? i'm here at junction nine to see how bad it gets , and nine to see how bad it gets, and the eurovision final is upon us. >> sweden ramping up security amid pro—palestinian protest. >> good morning. it's an old firm feast this afternoon as rangers travel to parkhead to face celtic at 1230. just three points separate the two sides at the top of the table. we'll be joined by two time celtic title winner alan stubbs later this houn >> it's finally happening. a warm , sunny day across the uk
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warm, sunny day across the uk today, but how warm will it get and how long will it last? i'll have all the details in the weather coming up soon. >> hey, very good morning to you. i'm martin daubney and i'm isabel webster, and this is breakfast on gb news. a lovely morning. great to have your company. thanks for joining morning. great to have your company. thanks forjoining us. now the economy has grown at the fastest rate in two years, outpacing both america and the eurozone. >> yep. that means that the uk is officially out of recession , is officially out of recession, with many hoping for tax cuts over the next few months. >> and this comes after former labour leader lord kinnock claimed that voters in britain are not yet in love with sir keir starmer, with concerns emerging of a shock result in the upcoming election that could be reminiscent of 1992, when sir neil kinnock lost an election that was thought to be unusable . that was thought to be unusable. well, joining us now is gb news political correspondent, katherine forster catherine,
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always a pleasure. it's fair to say that people haven't especially warmed to sir keir starmer. it's not especially the most charismatic of leaders. he's no tony blair, but then few are. but will it be an issue or actually is being mr magnolia quite useful? >> mr magnolia, i like that, in ordinary times it might be a problem for him in that we've seen again and again despite this 20 point lead in the polls. you know, that focus groups, people basically are a bit meh about him and labour more generally. but the thing is, we're not in ordinary times. generally. but the thing is, we're not in ordinary times . the we're not in ordinary times. the conservatives have been in office for 14 years and they've whistled through a whole load of prime ministers, including, you know, in the space of just a few months at the end of 2022, we went through three, including liz truss for several weeks and the, the disaster of the mini—budget, so these are not ordinary times. and i think
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after the chaos , a lot of people after the chaos, a lot of people might think that being actually not terribly exciting is fine. i think most of the poll lead, a lot of it is people, conservative voters sitting at home fed up with the conservatives sitting on their hands or voting for reform or whatever, saying they're going to vote for reform, rather than this great love of labour. but it seems to be there is a feeling in the country that we've had enough of this lot, andifs we've had enough of this lot, and it's time for a change, which i think is why, despite the £0.04 off national insurance in the last few months, the polls at the moment are not shifting. >> so i think it's extraordinary for neil kinnock to come out and say his son is in the shadow cabinet and stands to be an immigration minister should labour win the election. hugely unhelpful , labour win the election. hugely unhelpful, i'm sure, for his son in all of this. but you know , in all of this. but you know, laboun in all of this. but you know, labour, as you say, you know, not necessarily coming out with anything that's sort of amazing and awe inspiring and yet here we are seeing conservative mps defecting to in a matter of
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weeks. and yet there's good news on the economy. there's not such awful news as you might have expected in other areas. why is why is that happening ? why is that happening? >> well, because of the polls. because of the way the wind is blowing. so yes, rishi sunak and the chancellor have had some really, really good news yesterday with these economic figures . growth 0.6% out of figures. growth 0.6% out of recession, nought point 6. i mean that's proper growth. the you know, the ons chief economist has used this phrase going gangbusters , but the going gangbusters, but the economy's been in a pretty dreadful state for many years now. and going forward , growth now. and going forward, growth projections are not good at all. and yes, i mean, lord kinnock has said it's no done deal by any means that labour are going to get a landslide. it could be another 1992 situation. they just don't know . but another 1992 situation. they just don't know. but i think it suits both parties to play to that. suits both parties to play to that . this is not a suits both parties to play to that. this is not a done deal narrative because they don't want any complacency in labour
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voters. they want to get their voters. they want to get their voters out. and similarly with the conservatives, we've seen all these, you know, conservative mps saying they're not standing. again, two defections in just the last couple of weeks , to labour. couple of weeks, to labour. rishi sunak wants to believe and make people believe that it's still all to play for, because if they accept that they are going down, that takes all the energy, all the impetus away . energy, all the impetus away. and it doesn't galvanise people who might be wavering to come out for the conservatives. >> what was fascinating yesterday liam halligan, of course, gb news business and political economics editor, sat down with rishi sunak and he pointed out to him, when you compare year on year, not quarter on quarter, and when you add in inflation and the population boost, almost a million in that time, actually the gdp per capita, which is what counts the pounds and the pence in your pocket is 0.8% down. so you can massage the figures any way gangbusters isn't it? no. exactly. so i wonder actually if people buy
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this, it's like you're better off. am i? do people actually feel better off? >> well, yes. i don't know. and it would seem not at the moment. of course, the government are hoping that by the time we get to the next election, maybe november potentially, some of this will have filtered through and people will have felt the benefit of these tax cuts. but of course, you know, most people are still ultimately getting worse off because of fiscal drag. and as you say , although drag. and as you say, although the economy is growing, that's largely because there's simply more people in it, more people paying more people in it, more people paying taxes, because we had three quarters of a million more people come to the country last year than leave. but individually , less is being individually, less is being produced per person. and of course , we feel the economy, course, we feel the economy, don't we, as individuals, you and me, do. i feel better off? are you better off? and although you know, inflation is coming down, interest rates are still high and food inflation for example, was up at 40% only a year or so ago. and inflation is
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coming down. but ultimately pnces coming down. but ultimately prices have still gone up an awful lot over the last few years, and a lot of people's wages haven't even begin to keep tabs, keep getting pricey. >> you know , gas bills getting >> you know, gas bills getting pricier, your petrol, nothing's getting cheaper. nothing is getting cheaper. nothing is getting cheaper. >> yeah. i mean, who can afford to eat out anymore ? it just it's to eat out anymore? it just it's an arm and a leg. >> a pint of beer if you're not careful. now is like thick in the £7. in the wrong pubs around london, things are still getting more expensive. >> they're just getting more expensive, more slowly than they were before. so perhaps we nofice were before. so perhaps we notice it less. but we have had these huge jumps in prices that we're now all having to sort of adjust to as the new normal. but i don't think that necessarily means then that we're all going to think, oh, i'm much better off. and of course, that's the that's the labour central attack line is do you feel better off than you did 14 years ago when the conservatives came to office? and they're pretty sure that the majority of people are going to think , no, no, i don't. going to think, no, no, i don't. >> thanks very much, catherine. appreciate your analysis. just to say, if you're into your politics and you've got any of
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the papers this morning, there's a couple of really good long reads. there's an exclusive with akshata murty, the prime minister's wife, into what it's like inside number 10 and how there's no sort of format for what you do as a prime minister's wife. and she's done this. lessons from ten on friday. she's had thousands of schoolchildren through, but she talks about still going on the tube walking her dog all the time. most people don't recognise her. she picks up food from tesco's locally and people don't recognise which i thought was quite funny. and there's also a long interview with natalie elphick's mother, who says the reason that she defended her husband for so long against those awful sexual assault convictions was because she's a devout catholic. and of course , she this week now course, she this week now infamously defected to labour. so a little bit to look forward to. perhaps we'll delve into those in the papers a little bit later on. great stuff. >> now it's day two of the duke and duchess of sussex's tour of nigeria , and what many are nigeria, and what many are calling a royal tour on their own terms as well. >> the commentators have noted that nigeria is actually the 12th most dangerous country in the world, and the military base that harry travelled to is somewhere that the foreign office actually advises against visiting. >> of course, this comes as reports suggest the king was too
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busy to meet his son in the uk because he was at tea with david beckham. ouch >> well, earlier we asked royal biographer and former photographer ian lloyd what's going on? >> it's that royal brand and that that that they need and it's their sort of post. royal life has been waning. they've not really done very much in the last 3 or 4 years apart from the book, obviously. and various documentaries, they need to boost the image. so they've come over here and almost used the british royal family to have this sort of show themselves as on the world stage, if you like. so i mean, i don't know, it's interesting. i saw all the documentaries in nigeria, the news bulletins, and i don't know what the people there thought, who they were, you know, whether they're just celebrity or whether they're royalty. it's very unclear. i think . but, very unclear. i think. but, yeah, i mean, and ironic, as you say, because they want supposedly privacy and they've gone on this very high profile toun gone on this very high profile tour, haven't they? >> and, ian, a key point here is
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the security or point, the hypocrisy surrounding it. >> don't forget, here's a fella that went to court saying that the british taxpayer should support him in all security matters while on british soil. and yet the global peace index puts nigeria at 144th least safe country on the planet. there are 72% more violent crime in nigeria than in the uk. not a peep about any of that. >> well that's it. he's supposedly or they've supposedly hired four, security people and the nigerians have put an awful lot of money behind the tour to ensure their safety . in ensure their safety. in a country where most people earn £1.50 a day to survive, you know , so there's again, a bit of hypocrisy and irony in all of that. so it's, it's you know, in in a good way, i suppose it shows what what we harry could have offered to the british royal family by going over there
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as a, a working royal and but it highlights the fact that our royal family, the working royal family, can't get over there to commonwealth countries at the moment. that's the other the other problem, the optics. if you like, what about the language that we've been hearing from, from meghan saying thank you to the people of nigeria for welcoming her home because of course, she's discovered hasn't she, through dna analysis, that she's of nigerian heritage . and she's of nigerian heritage. and yet i'm reading this morning that she actually met harry in the windsor suite at heathrow en route to nigeria, but dislikes this country so much, where she got married and welcomed into the royal family even want to step foot outside the airport ? i step foot outside the airport? i mean, many people would say this should be her home with harry. i mean, sticks in the craw a bit, don't you think? yeah i mean, it's i think it's the fact that she knows she's not 100% popular here. >> i mean, when she was at saint paups >> i mean, when she was at saint paul's with harry for the i think it was the platinum jubilee, they got booed and some says there was boos. the other day. so she knows her image is
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not 100% popular, so she probably wouldn't want to , to do probably wouldn't want to, to do that. and as you say, there would be irony. irony if they're supposedly feeling unsafe in this country, if they keep regularly popping back as a couple, it seems to undermine that that argument, doesn't it ? that that argument, doesn't it? >> well, do let us know what you think about that story. gbnews.com/yoursay. lots of you getting in touch , commenting, getting in touch, commenting, funnily enough, on what meghan's wearing, which is actually what we've all done prior to sort of falling out of love with her, she was a bit of an icon, wasn't she? but people saying, you know, why is she wearing a ball gown and other people saying that looks like it's designed for somebody much taller than her. and but aside from what they're wearing, let us know whether you think that this is a good thing, that they're out and about whether or not you know, she has every right to get in touch with her. i suppose her home coming, or if, like us, you think it's a bit strange that she feels she has more connection to a country she's never really been to than a country where she got married and married into. yeah, 43%
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nigerian. >> she claims to be. i feel at home in nigeria , she says, to home in nigeria, she says, to which many people might say, well, perhaps she could stay there . there. >> okay, let's take a look at some of the other stories coming into the newsroom at 713 this morning. and the united states has suggested that israel may have broken international law using american supplied weapons dunng using american supplied weapons during the war in gaza. the state department said it was reasonable to assess that the nature of the conflict had created severe military challenges. however, the document also noted that hamas uses civilian infrastructure for military purposes and civilians as human shields and the northern lights lit up the skies across britain last night as one of the strongest geomagnetic storms for years hit the planet . storms for years hit the planet. >> usually they are seen in the far north of the country and are caused by charged particles hitting the different gases in the earth's atmosphere. so now you know , and if you're planning you know, and if you're planning your summer holidays, you might need to rethink your destinations. >> the authorities in the balearic islands are cracking down on excessive drinking in some tourist hotspots, after
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locals have complained of poor behaviour, including climbing into . people's homes. sale of into. people's homes. sale of alcohol will be banned from 9:30 in the evening until 8:00 in the morning . you can have to scrap morning. you can have to scrap your holiday plans, then we'll just make sure you get your stash in before 9:30. >> the thing about that, you know , 9:30 at night is late in know, 9:30 at night is late in the morning. that's the sweet spotif the morning. that's the sweet spot if you're a youngster. >> greek islands if you're a youngster. >> but of course, when you're at my age, it's like, get to bed, you know, i know, but i can see as a local how irritating to have all these drunk louts on the streets and people climbing into your home. >> there has to be a point where you say, this is actually where we live. it's not just where you come and let your hair down once a year, but there is this backlash against the brits. >> we've seen it in spain, in tenerife, now, the balearic islands. i would say this millions and millions of pounds of our tourist money is pumped into your economies. this sounds like wanting to have your cake and eat it, take the cash and put up with our drunken, loutish
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behaviour. >> is that what you're saying? >> is that what you're saying? >> swings and roundabouts? >> swings and roundabouts? >> yeah. maybe well, let us know what you think this morning. speaking of travel, you might have a few problems if you're sticking around here in the uk only travel if absolutely necessary. that's the advice that's been given to thousands of drivers following another unprecedented closure of the m25 and the five mile stretch in surrey between junctions nine and ten are now shut until 6 am. on monday morning, causing delays and a 19 mile diversion. it is the first time that this has been shut during the day. there has been a night closure already and this is the first time since the motorway, which is one of the busiest, if not the busiest in the country, opened back in 1986. >> well, joining us now is gb news reporter ray addison rae. welcome to the show. absolute bedlam is expected. a 19 mile diversion and i couldn't help but notice it goes past the chessington park . that means chessington park. that means nightmare for beleaguered parents with kids in the back. been there. got the t shirt. what should people do ?
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what should people do? >> well, just as i've been here, i'm basically on a gantry above the m25 junction nine, heading northwards near leatherhead . and northwards near leatherhead. and just while i've been here for the last sort of half an hour or so , i'd have to say that the so, i'd have to say that the traffic has nearly quadrupled . traffic has nearly quadrupled. and where there was only a few cars using this exit, and where there was only a few cars using this exit , there's cars using this exit, there's now starting to be a steady stream of vehicles who are being tailed back further and further down this motorway. i'm actually going to step out of your way so you can get a better shot. this is the exit here. junction nine. you might be able to see on the right hand side of your screen there, the actual blockage of there, the actual blockage of the road. and all they're doing at the moment is allowing through the vehicles, who were involved in the construction of that new bridge, national highways obviously closing this for the whole weekend. so they construct a new bridge. now, last time, if you remember, they
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closed, junctions ten and 11, and we saw around a five mile tail back at junction 11 heading southbound . so it'll be southbound. so it'll be interesting to see how bad that disruption is. now there's that 19 mile diversion route in place, and it takes people through some pretty, small villages. now, last time there wasn't two. it wasn't too bad. there wasn't too many tailbacks in those small villages. but it will be interesting to see what happens on this occasion. the diversion route is taking people through the a3 and the a2 40 a national highways , urging national highways, urging motorists to follow their official diversions. do not follow your satnavs because they've suspended part of the extended ulez charges, but if you stray off of that diversion, you stray off of that diversion, you could end up facing that charge. if you're not somebody who normally drives in this
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area, you could therefore end up with a penalty to pay. now there are going to be i'll just step back here. there are going to be further closures. so this isn't the end of this disruption for people on the weekends. there's going to be further inclusions or, closures on three more weekends of this year. and that's going to be between july and the end of the year, we're told, although they're not too clear about exactly when. but this disruption started last night . at 9:00. we're going to night. at 9:00. we're going to see how busy it gets today . and see how busy it gets today. and it goes all the way through until 6 am. on monday morning. so if you're an early an early riser, you're travelling into one of the major cities. early on, you could find yourself disrupted if you try to use this route . so at the moment, route. so at the moment, national highways advising try to avoid , if at all possible. if to avoid, if at all possible. if you can't avoid, only follow their designated routes, not
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your satnav. >> okay, top tips ray, thanks very much indeed. and a little tip to add to all of that as well. if you're trying to use the train as an alternative to being on the roads, a little warning that the rain rail line that cuts through surrey and crosses over the m25 and the a3 and the other roads, south—west trains, they've got engineering work to be trying to get down to the coast today, so that's going to affect lots of people. so yeah, good luck with that. if you're out there today and that's your route home. yeah. well i suppose i don't really know what i'll do. maybe i'll stay here all day. you lucky things. aidan mcgivern here with your forecast. now >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you on this beautiful sunny day. for many of us, it's going to be very warm into the afternoon. however, as temperatures rise, the chance in 1 or 2 spots of a thundery shower. by the time the day comes to a close. but for most people , as we begin
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next. welcome back. you're watching and listening to breakfast with isabella martin this morning. if you're tuning in and a bit confused , it isn't monday confused, it isn't monday morning. it isn't monday afternoon. it is. in fact, saturday. but we've stepped in with a few absences and illnesses around . so we are here illnesses around. so we are here taking one for the team, aren't we? >> we are. and it's very hot in the studio and indeed the hotly contested eurovision final takes place this evening amid some confusion after the dutch act was banned from rehearsals as officials launch an official investigation. >> but all of this comes as pro—palestinian demonstrations continue to surround the event , continue to surround the event, calling for israel to be banned in the same way that russia was. well, let's discuss all of this this morning with showbiz reporter hayley palmer. and hayley, you normally want to come in here and talk showbiz rather than politics, and we won't get too deep about it all, other than to say, you know, obviously this is really there's a lot of sentiment or isn't there a lot of feeling around
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all of this ? and yet a lot of all of this? and yet a lot of people saying, this israeli girl, you know, she's not actually responsible for any of the actions on either side . the actions on either side. she's just there to sing. yeah. >> i just looked up her age. she's only 20 years old. that is so young to be taking all of this on. you know, she's got people outside her hotel room , i people outside her hotel room, i can't imagine how that must feel. i'm sure she's got a very strong team around her, but nevertheless, it's not specifically her fault. so, i do really, really feel for her, i mean, look, i'm a massive eurovision fan. i'm all about bucks fizz. the fizz, skirt ripping days , katrina and the ripping days, katrina and the waves. that's my thing. and i like a good song. like, i think i'm getting old because i watched olly alexander's performance, and i honestly feel like i can't watch it. i'm like, oh, it's too much for me . so oh, it's too much for me. so maybe i am old fashioned, but i just want to hear a good song. i feel like the song just goes. it just it floats. it doesn't do anything for me. >> the irish contestant doing some sort of like, witchcraft and that's very scary. acts on
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stage. looks like it's a bit freaky. >> exorcist baby . bambi. >> exorcist baby. bambi. >> exorcist baby. bambi. >> yeah, but let's talk about apart from the politics of all of this, because, you know, there are. and i know that you're convinced you've got a theory that actually israel could win. yeah, out of all of this. but the other hot, hotly contested, country . forgive me. contested, country. forgive me. ineed contested, country. forgive me. i need some more coffee. i know, is croatia. yes. that's baby lasagne. >> baby lasagne. now they have a track called i think i've got this right rim tim diggy dig. there's actually a dance routine which i won't do that now, but it's kind of going viral and everyone's doing it on youtube and stuff, and, you know, it's kind of a silly song, but it's a bit more eurovision. it's a bit more eurovision, but i'd rather see a silly song win in a political race, to be honest. so i think that's in with a good chance and my vote is going to go on that. i'm going to put a bet on that . but i also think bet on that. but i also think switzerland are in with a really good chance they're represented by nemo, the staging is fantastic . he's by nemo, the staging is fantastic. he's on a flat disc
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and he's sort of sliding in. he's jumping. and he's sort of sliding in. he'sjumping. i think and he's sort of sliding in. he's jumping. i think that's really, really cool. so for me, it's croatia, switzerland or i think ireland might do it, you know, because everyone seems to be talking about that. and it is the first time that they've qualified in about 7 or 8 years. so i think they could be in with a chance didn't they. they always are. yeah >> sure thing. >> sure thing. >> i want to quickly talk about the bookies odds because you're right croatia or are they 1.8. they were when i last checked. what are they now, i think that's what i read, but i heard that's what i read, but i heard that olly alexander is the 11th favourite to win. >> he's got no chance. a especially after he had a pop at the union flag. but i want to come back to israel quickly because they weren't even down to qualify as a 10,000 people protesting outside this this lady's home. eden golan is the contestant she went on. she smashed it. she not only qualified , she's now the second qualified, she's now the second favourite at 4 to 1. social media sentiment seems to be people are taking the sympathetic ear towards her. as you said , it's not her conflict. you said, it's not her conflict. she's got no involvement in the geopolitics . she's just geopolitics. she's just a performer. don't stop the music, people , i think, are going to people, i think, are going to sweep behind her. i think she's
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got a chance of nibbling this . got a chance of nibbling this. >> i do think she may have a chance, but i also think there might be some big things happening tonight. i mean, they put extra security around the stage. apparently it's impossible for people to get onto that stage. but for me personally, it does concern me what might happen tonight at the eurovision, like i say, i want to bring it back to the music. i want to bring it back to the love and the everyone coming together. and that's for me, what i want to see. we've got enough going on. people want enjoyment. we need some escapism. we don't. we do. i don't want to hear this. >> no , exactly. you know, people >> no, exactly. you know, people would argue we have to talk about these things, but i feel like people can go on twitter and talk about that. is that no matter which perspective, whether you're here for the music or for the politics, it's going to be good for ratings. everyone's going to be tuning in to see what it is. >> and if you don't like it, don't tune in. and if you do like it, let's have a party tonight. >> all right, well, on that note, hayley, thanks very much indeed.thank note, hayley, thanks very much indeed. thank you. i'm sure we'll catch up with you to see how it all turned out. very sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> superb. now, still to come, we'll be joined by former celtic football captain alan stubbs. that's next, because it's the
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big old firm derby today north of the border. this is gb news with isabella
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martin. welcome back. 735 is your time. you're watching and listening to breakfast with isabel and martin. >> now it's time to go through all the sports. now with broadcaster aidan magee. good morning. aidan. >> good morning. good to see you both. >> right. let's quickly talk about moyes. david moyes last game as west ham boss. and he's going to have a big impact at the bottom of the table because they're playing luton town, who are one beneath forest. >> exactly. well look it's going to be more of a celebration at west ham, i think. look, there's been lots of conjecture, lots of consternation and lots of rancour actually, in the last couple of months about david moyes , whether he's going to moyes, whether he's going to stay at west ham, he delivered two european finishes, he delivered a european trophy . of delivered a european trophy. of course, he rescued them from relegation not once back in
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2017, but also when he came back to the club in 2020, achieved it again after the manuel pellegrini era and all the money that was spent back then. so david moyes has every right to expect the most warm of send offs. yeah, at the at the london stadium. you think he'll get it? oh, without doubt, without doubt. because look, even, even those west ham fans who would rather see a change, they'd rather see a change, they'd rather see a new broom. they'd rather see a new broom. they'd rather see a new broom. they'd rather see somebody come in and play rather see somebody come in and play a slightly more expansive football, even if that means dropping down the table a couple of couple of places even. they, especially the regulars and sam allardyce always used to say to me when he was in charge of various clubs, he said. the ones who the fans who go regularly know the score, they ignore the ones on social media, the ones who go regularly are the ones who go regularly are the ones who can see things for what they are. and i don't doubt for one moment, especially at home to luton, a match where they would be expected to win. i think he would get a rousing reception and it'll clear the way. then for julen lopetegui to take over next season, and it's going to have a big impact at the bottom. >> obviously, as i said, nottingham forest playing later on the day against chelsea old firms huge today as well. >> we must say at 12, at 1230 i want to bring in alan stubbs if i can actually two time title
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winner with, with celtic. alan, good morning to you. welcome to gb news. good to see you. i want to look at the top of the old firm. first of all, sorry, the top of these spfl. first of all because three points separate the two sides. it's very unusual for the title race in scotland to still be running into may isn't it. it's normally done and dusted by now either way. >> yeah it is i think, you know, if you look over the last few years and certainly from celtic's point of view, normal , celtic's point of view, normal, you know, they'd rather be ten. you know they've won it by 21, 12, nine you know and it'll be over by now. but the fact that we've, we've come this far in the season, is a testimony really to, to the job that, clermont has done at rangers. he's, you know, he's done very well since he's come in, but recently they've had a blip at the wrong time. >> alan, i remember graeme souness saying as far back as the 90s that it's all about the title race and what happens in those four games in the season. i'm thinking back as far back as
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your first season in in scotland in 96, 97, celtic, probably more consistent outside of the old firm games, but they just couldn't beat it, couldn't beat rangers on the big games, could they? even with van hooijdonk and cadete and di canio , it's and cadete and di canio, it's a little bit similar this year, isn't they? rangers been fairly consistent, especially since clement took over, but they just can't beat celtic, can they? >> no they can't. and you know and i think that's a huge psychological boost for celtic going into the game today. you know brendan rodgers record in in the old firm fixtures is nothing short of incredible. i think he's won . he lost 1 nothing short of incredible. i think he's won . he lost1 in nothing short of incredible. i think he's won . he lost 1 in 16 think he's won. he lost 1 in 16 when he's been manager of celtic. so you know he's got he's got the hoodoo over over rangers. and today is huge . you rangers. and today is huge. you know i think there's been a little bit of psychological comments over the last week in terms of, you know, brendan saying we're going to have a bit of fun next week, which mr clement took, took, offence to and, you know, today is probably one of the most anticipated games they've had for quite a
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few years. >> is that a sign of the pressure though, getting to one or both of the managers, do you think? allan. >> yeah, i think, you know, brendan doesn't really get involved in in any psychological, comments. but it seemed to, rub mr clement up , seemed to, rub mr clement up, which, you know, i can see why, but, you know, all the talking today is going to be on the pitch. and i've got to be honest, and i'm not just saying this from a celtic point of view. i do think celtic will win the game today, you know , so the game today, you know, so celtic are in a good, good place right now since brendan rodgers has come back. >> well, you won your . first >> well, you won your. first title back in 9798 under wim jansen. obviously fans were a huge part of it then, as they were in many years since then, but no fans at the moment. and what sort of difference would that make? although they will be back in next season? we understand. >> yeah, i think it's i think it's, it's a, it's a shame really that it's come to it's come to this over the last few years where no away fans have been at the game, which i think is, is a huge loss to the to the actual game itself. i think, you
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know away fans in, in the stadiums add so much to an old firm clash. but celtic park today will be an unbelievable atmosphere , today. and i'm sure atmosphere, today. and i'm sure the place will be absolutely bouncing later on. to be honest, i actually do wish i'll be there because the atmosphere would be incredible , so it's going to be incredible, so it's going to be an intimidating, intimidating game for , for the rangers game for, for the rangers players. they've not dealt with it over the last number of years when they've gone to celtic park, they've had a, they've had a tough time and today will all be about who holds the nerve the best. >> just quickly alan, before we 90, >> just quickly alan, before we go, it'd be remiss of me not to ask about everton safe with three games to go. some great stuff, and towards the end of the season under sean dyche. but problems ahead with the ownership perhaps. but the stadium still looking good. >> the stadium looks looks amazing, i must i must admit that the problems with everton right now are all off the pitch. you know , there's that in the you know, there's that in the owner needs to decide what what
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is happening off the pitch because there seems to be not enough information coming from from the owner. a lot of the fans are looking for answers. you know, there is there's talk of potential. the club going into administration, which which is just unthinkable , or even is is just unthinkable, or even is crazy to think . about when you crazy to think. about when you look at the club. but you know, sean dyche has done a, done a very, very good job this season in terms of steering everton clear from the bottom, so you know, he just needs to try and deal with what's going on . on deal with what's going on. on the pitch. but off the pitch, mr moshiri really does need to try and sort sort everything out once and for all. >> alan, great to see you as always here on gb news. we hope you enjoy the game later on. we hope for better news for, thank you everton off the pitch as well. good to see you. that's alan stubbs, talking about the old firm and everton. who of course he played for with distinction. >> always a pleasure. thank you. aidan magee. thank you aiden. now still to come we're going
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through today's papers and the top stories with emma woolf and kevin schofield in making the news. and that's next. this is gb with isabel and
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martin. >> welcome back at 744. it is breakfast with isabel and martin. this saturday morning. we go through the papers with the political editor at the huffpost, kevin schofield, and the writer and broadcaster emma woolf. good morning, and welcome to both of you , emma. let's to both of you, emma. let's start, shall we, with prince william confirming on the isles of scilly yesterday that kate is doing well. i thought it was a very brave, lady question allowed to ask how the princess of wales is. and i thought, well, we're not so good for you . yeah. >> and there's been so much and i know we're trying to give them their privacy, but, i mean, i think lots of us really do feel really concerned about how catherine is doing and all of that. so we kind of see that these little snippets, don't we? so william , on on the other side so william, on on the other side of the royals, on the slightly
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more hard working side of the world, he's been visiting cornwall two day trip. it's sort of the first time he's been away for a couple of days since the diagnosis was announced. he's been down in cornwall. he went to the isles of scilly. he bought five pasties for his entourage. in one of these delicious cornish shops. and one of the harry's cash. does he interesting i don't yeah , well, interesting i don't yeah, well, maybe you don't need to. >> these days. you just have card. >> maybe he had a card. i was wondering about that. how did he pay wondering about that. how did he pay for them, and in one of the hospitals he visited on the isles of scilly , an isles of scilly, an administrator, a hospital administrator, a hospital administrator, asked him how kate was doing , and he said kate was doing, and he said she's doing well. thanks. so that's all we have. but we have to hope that that is. >> i mean, he was hardly going to say, well, actually, last week when she was having x, y, z. >> z. >> yeah, z.- >> yeah, of z.— >> yeah, of course z. >> yeah, of course it was. >> what was interesting is that she was able felt able to ask him what we are told. we're not to ask. and that's fair enough. let them have their privacy. we're all desperate to hear the answer. >> no we are. >> no we are. >> and yeah, obviously when, it was announced , that friday was announced, that friday evening of what had been going on, it was a massive shock to the whole country, wasn't it? and until till we hear official
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word from the palace, then we're just going to have to rely on little snippets like this, because we just don't know, not forget. >> initially we were told until after easter. then there was a question a lot longer about trooping the colour . question a lot longer about trooping the colour. but question a lot longer about trooping the colour . but now trooping the colour. but now there seems to be no sort of talk about when and, you know, fair enough. but, you know, it does seem to be serious. so it does. again, we wish her well. >> it's quite, quite telling as well. i went through some of the social media comments on this and people that live on the isle of city were just saying how close they got, how wonderful it was. he's supporting local businesses. that pasty shop will now be like treasured , you know, now be like treasured, you know, forever people, forever on the quay. >> it sounds great. it's on the quay. >> compare and contrast with this. i feel at home in nigeria vibe that meghan's putting out two very, very different takes on to how be a royal, how to be a royal. >> and yeah, all the sussexes do they want to be royals or do they want to be royals or do they not because they seem to want sort of half the trappings, but without all the kind of responsibilities. but yeah, i mean william's doing it exactly right, isn't he. and he loves tresco, which is one of the isles down there. and he used to
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go visit. i know it's beautiful . go visit. i know it's beautiful. he used to go there as a child i think so, yeah. he's back. he's back down there. >> it's just very sad on a human level as well, isn't it? these two brothers who obviously went through a lot growing up, obviously can't stand the sight of each other right now, and it's just really sad. >> well, it goes beyond the brothers. >> i mean, we are told from some of the papers this morning that the king didn't have time in his schedule to see his son because he was actually meeting david beckham for a private meeting. >> who would you choose? i mean, i know who i saw about priorities, but, you know, you surely. >> i mean, it's sad pop in as well. >> i reckon that it was very. >> i reckon that it was very. >> harry and becks are pals. probably so what's gone on there and will, you know, will they ever be able to repair things? >> i and they really were so close. >> i mean, when you compare the buckingham palace garden party a couple of miles down the road , couple of miles down the road, literally harry was at westminster or wherever, wherever it was, it wasn't far. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> they were like he would have been possible for three miles apart and yet absolutely worlds apart and yet absolutely worlds apart in terms of their emotional state. >> kev, let's move on to the front page of the telegraph. bit of politics. voters not loving
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sir keir starmer the red on red this. >> yeah, i mean neil, i think he's right as well. the polling backs that up. the problem for the conservatives though is that they dislike rishi sunak even more. you know, when you when you look at the figures for who'd make the best prime minister which is tends to be the best indicator of a general election result, really. starmer is really considerably ahead. >> the number one choice is. >> the number one choice is. >> don't know. well, well actually although i did i did see one polling. >> company did a briefing through the weekend. it did show that starmer is now ahead i don't know. so that's something isuppose don't know. so that's something i suppose the achievement of. but, but yeah, it's, but neil kinnock is absolutely right. and labour clearly despite all the indicators suggesting that they're going to win , are very they're going to win, are very nervous about complacency. they don't want voters to think it's already in the bag and not bother to come out to vote. but but i think at the moment they're swimming against the tide, really. i think everyone and all the pollsters say the
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same thing. spoke to quite a few of them this week, and they're all saying the same thing. one of them, actually, from savannah, told us this week that the tories are heading for pasting. >> that's what he said. >> that's what he said. >> kev, i want to ask you strategically . sorry i'm being strategically. sorry i'm being interrupted here. >> no, i was just laughing because i think it's more kevin. but go for i don't mean okay. >> i don't mean that. don't mean we're all friends here. >> marty. >> marty. >> kevin, mr schofield, so politically, strategically, what's going on here? because as you said, red on red, it could be damaging. or is it, fired towards labour voters to make sure that they get out and put their vote out? there has to be a political reason that he's he's briefing in this way. >> yeah, i think i think that is that i think they're guarding against complacency. pat mcfadden, who's the national campaign coordinator for labour, make the point. no vote has a cliche. no one's cast a single vote yet. so the result is still up in the air, but that that was why i thought it was quite strange that rishi sunak came out early in the week and said, oh, you know, hung parliament. it's looking like a hung parliament because local elections that is just going to encourage. that's good news for labour because their voters are going like, well, hang on a minute, it's not in the bag yet.
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>> we'd better get out and vote. but then why do sorry to jump in, but why do such bizarre things as accepting natalie elphicke into the labour party, which most people in the country won't, won't, won't really care about? >> but for core labour voters, thatis >> but for core labour voters, that is a real slap in the face. a lot of people within labour, even some of the whips, are not happy about that decision. why do something like that when you need to shore up your core labour vote? >> i think i think you touched on it there at the beginning when you said that most people, if they're aware of the story at all, will just think, oh, tory mp goes to labour. wow the tories must be in a right mess. but they won't drill down into the fact that this is someone coming from the right wing of the conservative party. it's not a moderate, it's not a wet. i mean, that's what is so alarming really about it. but in general terms, most voters won't even doesit terms, most voters won't even does it put the message out that, wow, you know, people often joke excuse any further. >> right wing should be off the white cliffs of dover . but does white cliffs of dover. but does it send out the message? well, if she can switch party, then so can i as a voter, because that's where the votes are going to be won in the red wall.
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>> oh yeah. one, former minister, tory minister said to me, you know, the problem that labour well, it's not a problem this is she her views are the views of the people that labour need to get to win the election, he says. so it's only a win, but it's exposed. he said a lot of labour mps at the moment still aren't ready to go into government because this is the type of thing that you just have to swallow. >> but it's difficult, surprising really, that she didn't go to reform. and i suppose that plays into my point that i was going to say the kind of mr vanilla or what was it you called it, mr magnolia of keir starmer has worked thus far because there has been this tory psychodrama. but if he wants to avoid that vote split on the conservatives you know, i'm making no sense at all because the vote split will help him out in the long run, won't it? so he doesn't mind. okay, i'm just ignore that for, you know, i mean, i think i think your point. >> i knew what you meant. >> i knew what you meant. >> i knew what you meant. >> i don't know, but you all make brilliant points. >> and the thing is, is this just we're a really broad church. we can accept, you know, we can go for the red wall, all of that. or is it actually storing up problems for the future? because rosie duffield has been saying, look, i feel real discomfort about this. you know, this acceptance, i think,
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and so do many labour mps. >> the line of the week i heard on that, i spoke to tom tugendhat this week and he said labour's a broad church, but they're so broad now they're going to start throwing bar mitzvahs. yeah, let's move on. there's a great line now then this clip , there's a great line now then this clip, emma, it certainly has got a lot of people's blood boiling . the magna carta boiling. the magna carta targeted by geriatric . just stop targeted by geriatric. just stop oilers. we've got a clip . so you oilers. we've got a clip. so you can see them there. there's a couple of old doris's . couple of old doris's. >> oh they're old. they're ladies in their 80s. >> what is one of boxt solar on? there's one is a priest. >> yeah. and one is a former teacher . and there they are. and teacher. and there they are. and people are filming them. no one is saying to them, stop attacking. this is in the british library right now. >> luckily, they've got all the force of a sparrow hitting a garage window, and they don't manage to get through . manage to get through. >> but why is no one saying to them, stop doing that. we're in a museum. we're in a beautiful national heritage. what do you think when you see that, kevin? >> i mean, to me, this is a sacrosanct document of global
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historical significance . it's historical significance. it's the foundation of every liberal democrat, democratic society on earth, and it's just been hacked at with a hammer and chisel. does that make people support them ? them? >> no, i don't i think it's counterproductive. >> i think people will be like, well , why >> i think people will be like, well, why this isn't going to make me more likely to support you.the make me more likely to support you. the people who already support it will support it. but i think you're the most people are in the middle somewhere, probably got some sympathy of a bit. the whole climate change and the message that they're trying to get across. but when it comes to attacking the magna carta, i think people think that the gallery now, the gallery that displays the magna carta is closed until further notice. >> so little children, school children coming in to see the magnets, sorry to see magna carta will not be able to see it. so well done these old ladies. what they said is the magna carta is rightly revered, blah blah blah. there will be no freedom, no lawfulness, no rights. if we allow climate breakdown to become the catastrophe that is threatened, we must get off our addiction to oil and gas by 2030, starting
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now. that's how they justify this. >> yeah, well, let us know your views. i have a feeling i know which way they will swing gbnews.com/yoursay in all of that. gbnews.com/yoursay in all of that . and we say thank you very that. and we say thank you very much to emma and to kevin. a brief papers this hour. we'll hopefully have a bit more time just after 8:30. >> okay. thank you very much. looking forward to that. i won't call you kev next time. i'll call you kev next time. i'll call you kev next time. i'll call you kevin . superb. thank call you kevin. superb. thank you very much. now let's get your weather. that's the most important part of the show with aidan mcgivern. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . the sponsors of weather solar. the sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather. brought to you by the met office. the fine and often sunny weather many of us have had recently will continue for a little while yet. yes, there are some mist and fog patches around first thing this morning, but these will quickly burn back because there'll be plenty of sunshine around. lots of bright blue skies on offer as we head into the afternoon. they're a bit more cloud towards shetland . a little bit of rain
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all the words of the office for national statistics chief economist. but are you beginning to feel better off? >> a former leader of the labour party claims voters aren't in love with starmer, with opposition mps fearing the country could see a shock result in the upcoming general election , reminiscent of 1992 and a
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right royal hypocrisy. >> while critics hit out at the sussexes during their tour of nigeria, the 12th most dangerous country in the world after he questioned his own security in the uk , thousands of motorists the uk, thousands of motorists are bracing for chaos on the roads, with closures on the m25 today. >> up to 6000 vehicles in both directions could cause huge tailbacks. i'm here at junction nine to see how bad it gets . nine to see how bad it gets. >> go on ray and the eurovision final is upon us. with sweden ramping up security amid ongoing pro—palestinian protests . pro—palestinian protests. >> good morning. it's been the worst kept secrets in world football. but killing mbappe has confirmed he'll be leaving psg this summer. where next for him? that's what we'll be asking . that's what we'll be asking. it's a big day also of premier league and old firm action and in cricket it looks like the end for the test career of england's
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legendary bowler jemmy anderson . legendary bowler jemmy anderson. >> it's finally happening. a warm, sunny day across the uk today, but how warm will it get and how long will it last? i'll have all the details in the weather coming up soon. >> i'm isabel webster and i'm martin daubney and this is breakfast on gb news. >> and don't panic. it's not monday morning. you haven't missed the weekend. we've stepped in. there have been a number of sicknesses and holidays and things over the weekend. so we've taken one for the team this morning, haven't we, martin? >> it's delightful to be working with you again. likewise >> lovely guys. well, leading the programme this morning, the economy has grown at the fastest rate in two years, outpacing both america and the eurozone. >> and that means that the uk is officially now out of recession, with many hoping for tax cuts over the next few months. >> well, this comes after the former labour leader, lord kinnock, has claimed that voters in britain are not yet in love with sir keir starmer, with
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concerns emerging of a shock result in the upcoming election. >> if you recall, back in 1992, kinnock lost an election that was thought to be unusable. >> well, joining us now is gb news political correspondent, katherine forster, to go through those political stories. let's start with the good news, shall we? look, a lot of people will be pleased to hear we're out of recession. we're doing better than america, france, germany. fabulous. but in real terms. are people feeling better off? and that will be the challenge, won't it, for rishi sunak to translate that into the feel good factor which causes people to vote for him? yes, because the government desperately needs some good news and they have got it in the shape of this 0.6% growth of the economy in the first quarter of the year. >> and that's, you know, that's a proper substantial amount of growth. but are people going to feel it? well, of course we've had £0.04 cut from national insurance in the last few months. that's going to beginning to feeding through . beginning to feeding through. although i have to say given one of those was in the autumn, one
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of those was in the autumn, one of those was in the autumn, one of those in the spring, the polls, it didn't seem to have any impact at all on the polls. now, some talk of another fiscal eventin now, some talk of another fiscal event in the autumn before a general election, possibly another £0.02 off there. so that would be 6. i mean, they'd basically cut the rate of national insurance in half, which would be a really, really big deal. but the definition of madness is repeating the same thing and expecting to get a different result. is it that people have stopped listening? and also, of course, despite these tax cuts , because of these tax cuts, because of fiscal drag, because of the tax thresholds, not moving, ultimately, most people's taxes have still been going the key. >> and you put that alongside the cost of living and all of the cost of living and all of the other problems. yes, inflation has come down, but the cost of goods from a year ago still more expensive people just aren't feeling better off. despite the hard work that the government would say that they've been making. >> yes, exactly. so you can look at these figures and rishi sunak and the chancellor will rightly be able to say , look at this,
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be able to say, look at this, we're turning a corner, the plan is working, etc. etc. inflation has come down massively . you has come down massively. you know, we expect it to hit the bank of england's target soon, soon. interest rates are not moving at the moment, but they expect that they will by the summer. so all of those things will help. but will it be enough? come november? december, whenever the elections held ? i whenever the elections held? i still think mid—november, shortly after the american election. let's see, will it be enough that people will really, really be feeling it? and even if they are beginning to feel it all the last 14 years, you get to a point always as a political cycle isn't there. you get a government in that people are hopeful, etc. etc. and then gradually they get fed up of them until it comes to a tipping point where they just think, we've had enough of this lot. it's time for a change. even though there's not massive enthusiasm for labour. >> well, it was brilliant yesterday is liam halligan gb
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news, economics and business edhon news, economics and business editor, sat down with rishi sunakin editor, sat down with rishi sunak in oxford. rishi sunak expecting to trumpet this good news. and liam said actually when you look at year on year compared to a year ago, not the last quarter , if you add in last quarter, if you add in inflation, if you add in population boost, largely driven by immigration, thick end of a million, actually gdp per head, that's the pounds and pence in your pocket that you notice is actually down 0.8. so they may have given a bit of good old fashioned topspin here. but let's move on to the red on red treble here. lord kinnock of course, a failed former well didn't even get to be prime minister, did he? but he's saying voters aren't in love with sir keir starmer a bit below the belt. don't you think? >> well you hear this time and time again from focus groups and pollsters . somebody said to me pollsters. somebody said to me a few weeks ago that basically he, people are very non—committal about about keir starmer , but about about keir starmer, but they think he's a bit more normal than rishi sunak, because of course, we know that rishi sunakis
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of course, we know that rishi sunak is very wealthy and the bafic sunak is very wealthy and the basic feeling is, well, it's time for a change. but of course, yes, it's not great for lord kinnock to say this in some ways, but also i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing because labour do not want to be complacent or certainly what they don't want is for their voters to be complaining, because if everybody feels it's a done deal, they're not going to have the same energy. voters aren't going to feel compelled to turn out necessarily, so i don't think it's unhelpful for labour and certainly not unhelpful for rishi sunak, which as i think part of the reason why, after those really pretty awful local election results, rishi sunak was pushing, you know, the one, result, the one sort of manifestation going forward of how that might lead to a hung parliament. it's not very likely that that would be replicated. but rishi sunak wants to say to his mps, stick .
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wants to say to his mps, stick. with me. you know, we're not necessarily going to go down. you're not necessarily going to lose your seat. we have a plan, and also to voters, don't think it's all over. don't think you can just take your vote off to reform or sit at home and it won't matter. the tories have still got a chance. >> well, if mps are defecting to labour from the conservative party, who knows where voters might go at the election? catherine, thank you very much indeed for explaining all of that to us this morning. great stuff. >> now it's day two of the duke and duchess of sussex's tour of nigeria, and what many are calling a royal tour on their terms. >> but commentators have noted that nigeria is actually the 12th most dangerous country in the world, and the military base that harry travelled to is somewhere that the foreign office is actually advising against visiting. well, this highlights the hypocrisy over their security fears here in britain. >> and this comes, of course, as reports suggest , the king was reports suggest, the king was too busy to meet his son in the uk because he was at tea with david beckham. it's gotta hurt.
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>> well, let's talk now to the royal broadcaster and photographer helena child. good morning. thanks for joining photographer helena child. good morning. thanks forjoining us this saturday morning . let's this saturday morning. let's focus first of all on this. i don't know. it's not necessarily a royal tour. it's a publicity trip. whatever you want to call it a pr trip for the sussexes. i read in the papers this morning it's more selfies than handshakes. a little bit of the dancing and the necklace bearing that we're used to seeing on the royal tours. i mean, what exactly is the thrust of this? >> i mean, goodness me, i mean, it's certainly lively, isn't it? a great photo opportunity, etc. i mean, everyone loves the invictus games, it's a guaranteed press moment. so for prince harry and meghan, this is perfect , they, you know, love perfect, they, you know, love being in the limelight. they're having a lot of fun, this it's elevating them. and i think invictus games sort of it sort of elevates them in the world of philanthropy , and they're taking philanthropy, and they're taking advantage of the, you know,
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obviously with the pr, that's going with this . and they going with this. and they certainly do need to keep their platform, their royal platform , platform, their royal platform, not to forget as well that this is very good for nigeria. and we know that they were invited by the nigerian chief of defence, and this all goes back to, the invictus games last year in dusseldorf. and it's about nigeria as well, showcasing themselves in a different light. and they want to be host, in i think it's 29. and so it very much is about invictus. but we, i say . it's about invictus i say. it's about invictus because but then you see there's lots of different things going on today. we've got the training sessions with unconquered, which is lovely. that's all about empowerment, self—esteem, wellbeing . and a lot of it is wellbeing. and a lot of it is about wellbeing. so it's positive, i do know that i think meghan is going to be co—hosting
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an event, women in leadership , an event, women in leadership, today, so that's an interesting one, i suppose in a way we can think there are lots of people within the military far more in nigeria, something like 200, 230,000 people serving, of which 30, funnily enough, are women, as opposed to 17% elsewhere. so that's very interesting. okay, helena, there's lots. yes >> could i ask you about this, slight furore with some justification, you might say, about the hypocrisy around security concerns. you know, prince harry banging on that the taxpayer should cover his back when he's back on british soil. yet here he is in nigeria , the yet here he is in nigeria, the global peace index, as it has it, as down as the 144th least safe country on the planet, right down in the bottom , 72% right down in the bottom, 72% more violent crime in nigeria . more violent crime in nigeria. not a peep about that . not a peep about that. >> absolutely. i mean, it's
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madness. i feel, and they're very much in the hands of the nigerian government. i mean , nigerian government. i mean, this obviously, again, has not been signed off by by our government. and, you know, anything could happen . but, anything could happen. but, remembering as well that not just that the security and everything that they're providing is being paid for. so that's another controversy because i think at least three, three quarters of the country are in poverty , that's why are in poverty, that's why should they be paying for security ? helena, one of the security? helena, one of the reasons for their own, they chose to go there as well was because, of course, meghan's been looking into her heritage and she's discovered that she's 43% nigerian and she's described feeling like it's a homecoming, feeling like it's a homecoming, feeling very much at home in the west african country. >> and yet we're told, i'm, i read in the paper this morning that that she actually came to the uk to pick harry up en route there, but didn't step foot out of the windsor suite, heathrow airport. so little is her
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affection or small is her affection or small is her affection for us here in the uk, where she had a huge wedding , where she had a huge wedding, welcomed into the royal family but feels more at home in a country she's never visited before . before. >> absolutely, you know, a big shame that she couldn't be supporting harry, actually, at saint paul's at the 10th anniversary of the invictus games. and you know, she's making it more than clear that she doesn't want to set foot in in the country to do with lots of things. but i think actually because she doesn't want to, she, she, i think doesn't feel loved. i mean, both harry and meghan do love to be loved, and i don't think she feels that love here in the uk, understandably, and there's a security issue which is still, you know, there's court cases going on and i don't think we're going on and i don't think we're going to see her any time soon, but yes, to see her in nigeria , but yes, to see her in nigeria, feeling at home and obviously very happy and relaxed, it's the irony really , it's unbelievable. irony really, it's unbelievable. but, interesting to see how
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things will, pan out, and also be interesting to see how this unofficial, pseudo sort of royal toun unofficial, pseudo sort of royal tour, comparing it to , to, to, tour, comparing it to, to, to, ones which are signed off by our government . so that would be government. so that would be something to look into. >> okay. helena and, she's meghan said, i feel at home in nigeria, to which many people might say, well, maybe you could stay there . helena charred. stay there. helena charred. always a delight to have you on the show. thanks for your input. >> i have a feeling she'll be wanting to jet back to la just as soon as she can. as 500“ as she can. >> as soon as she can. >> creature comforts, it's 814. let's take a look at some of the other stories coming into the newsroom for you this morning. and israel has ordered more palestinians residing in rafah to evacuate as it extends its encroachment into the city. it called on people to move north to the expanded humanitarian area in al—mawasi, the city's acting as a massive refugee camp for hundreds of thousands of displaced gazans , and the displaced gazans, and the northern lights lit up the skies across britain last night as one
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of the strongest geomagnetic storms for years hit the planet, and usually they are seen in the far north of the country and are caused by charged particles hitting the different gases in the earth's atmosphere . so now the earth's atmosphere. so now you know, and if you're planning your summer holidays, you might need to rethink your destinations. the authorities in the balearic islands are cracking down on excessive drinking in some tourist hotspots, after locals complained of poor behaviour , complained of poor behaviour, including climbing into people's homes. well, the sale of alcohol will now be banned from 9:30 in the evening until 8:00 in the morning. somehow i think that's going to. be and i think that's going to. be and i think that's going to. be and i think that's going to clip the wings a little bit of brits abroad in magaluf and ibiza this year , don't you and ibiza this year, don't you think that's a sweet spot. >> half nine at night till eight in the morning. >> yeah, maybe. but you know. yeah. the drunks on the street. it can't be fun if you're a local. i can totally see it. well, happens. >> but having said that, though, the spanish are complaining, the
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moaning about the brits in tenerife now, the balearic islands, millions of pounds of tourist money gets pumped in. you can't have your cake and eat it well, but maybe they'd rather have the family tourists than the drunken teenagers there to be boring old people like us. >> exactly. they just want us. that's fine by us. if they stop serving alcohol after 9:30, right. talking of travel, balearic islands might be a bit ambitious. you might be struggling to get out of london today. m25 closing for the first time in its history in the daytime. so the advice is being given to thousands of drivers today to follow those diversions. >> yes , an unprecedented closure >> yes, an unprecedented closure in the five mile stretch in surrey between junctions nine and ten are now shut until 6 am. on monday morning, causing delays and a 19 mile diversion. well let's check in then, shall we? >> now, who are we speaking to? ray addison on this yet? ray addison is out on a gantry somewhere in surrey to give us an update. and when we spoke to you a little bit earlier, ray, it looked as if that closure was in place and the m25 on
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characteristically quiet for this hour of the day. >> yeah, and it's just got a lot more quiet. i'm slightly distracted as you were doing the introduction there, because some kind of national highways vehicle has just pulled across the exit. the only last remaining exit here at junction nine and completely blocked off the road. and there's two workmen now doing something on this slip road exit. and i can see far in the distance all of the vehicles that were using junction nine as their exit into that 19 mile diversion have come to a complete stop. and i don't know how long that's going to for . last but know how long that's going to for. last but right know how long that's going to for . last but right now, know how long that's going to for. last but right now, this seems to be in addition to the expected reason for the delay. obviously, the construction of that bridge , these this, this that bridge, these this, this large, heavy vehicle has now pulled over two men out on the road and complete only complete standstill now for all traffic .
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standstill now for all traffic. so if i, if i just move out of the way, you can see there we've got the barriers there across those four lanes of the m25. this is junction nine at leatherhead. and the direction we're facing is northbound. you can see the traffic maybe on the right hand side that's still flowing. they've come back in on junction nine, but we have this, main disruption now occurring on this ten mile stretch lasting until 6 am. on monday. so that national highways can install a concrete beams for that new bridge. and of course, we had that a few weeks ago. we had the closure of junction 10 to 11, and we saw those, five mile tailbacks at junction 11. so a 19 mile diversion on people actually being asked and advised by national highways to come off at junction eight, you can come off at junction nine. but they were asking people to come off at junction eight. i'm wondering
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if what we're seeing now. right. that vehicle has now started moving. so those men out of the road, now you're going to be able to see on the left hand side of your screen, you're going to be able to see that vehicle now moving down the slip road itself. that's the vehicle that had pulled across and was blocking the final remaining lane of this motorway. and you, you you should be able to see very, very shortly all of that built up traffic moving back and coming off of this slip road here at junction nine. so that 19 mile diversion, affecting the a2 one seven, the a2 40, the a3 taking all of that traffic, there's the police cars now , and there's the police cars now, and you can start to see these vehicles now as well, taking people past, chessington world of adventure, causing a lot of significant delay to people trying to get to legoland windsor thorpe park as well. but major works ongoing here, causing significant disruption and up to 12,000 vehicles every single hour. expected to be
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affected. >> superb. so thank you, ray addison. more bedlam on the m25. the problem of that sort in about five minutes in japan or china, you're absolutely right. >> but for anybody who doesn't live in and around the m25, it's hard to overstate how big a deal this is, because obviously it wraps around the city. 9 million people inside the m25, and it is the busiest motorway in the country . so i'm sorry if you are country. so i'm sorry if you are watching us from scotland and not that fascinated by the m25, but for us down here it's a pretty big deal. and as you say, unprecedented. never been closed before since it's opened in the daytime. >> and a special, heartfelt sorry to the parents trying to get to chessington world of adventures today. stuck in that 90 mile tailback with all the kids in the back and you just a dad and you're just desperate to go home for a beer. maybe that's just me. >> i had my 12th birthday party at chessington world of adventures, and i remember, i don't know if i should say this on the tv. i fibbed to one of the ride operators that i was 14, in order to get on, but my
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mum had dropped us off at the age of 12. now i'm as a mum. i'm thinking, gosh, that was quite brave. she left me in a cohort of friends age 12 to go round. that explains a lot about me. things i did look 20 when i was 12. i just grew up really quickly, anyway, maybe you're on your way this morning listening to us in the car on the way to chessington world of adventures. godspeed. if you are, let us know how you get on. >> okay, now it's aidan mcgivern with your all important weather. >> it's going to be a scorcher. >> it's going to be a scorcher. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you on this beautiful sunny day. for many of us, it's going to be very warm into the afternoon. however, as temperatures rise, the chance in 1 or 2 spots of a thundery shower. by the time the day comes to a close. but for most people , as we begin most people, as we begin saturday, it is sunny out there, some low cloud and mistiness around eastern parts of england that will linger around the nonh that will linger around the north sea coast through the day.
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otherwise, inland blue skies for many, some patchy cloud developing , but with light winds developing, but with light winds and that strong sunshine, high uv levels as well. temperatures widely reaching the low 20s and in places the mid 20s are possible once again, then into the evening as temperatures rise well, the chance of a thundery shower or two across higher parts of central scotland . but parts of central scotland. but for the vast majority it stays dry. and that theme continues overnight. a bit more cloud arriving on saturday night and into the start of sunday, but it's going to be once again dry with clear spells and temperatures dipping to 12 or 13 celsius in many places. a bright start then on sunday, but some patchy cloud around and then as temperatures get, higher through the morning, the chance of some thundery showers developing once again more widely, this time across western scotland into western england, wales and northern ireland by the afternoon, where these occur , afternoon, where these occur, they're going to be heavy with
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channel. >> welcome back. you are watching and listening to isabella martin. we've also been gossiping with aidan magee. there about their love life as well. we'll have more on that. maybe a little bit later on in the programme. but let's turn our attention now to eurovision . our attention now to eurovision. now i have to say, you all say this morning absolutely full of people saying i'm not interested in eurovision. i don't like all of that nonsense. but actually it's not just about the show now. and all of the camp or fabulous whatever view you have on the music, it's actually turned quite political. and this
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is all relating to israel and gaza. >> absolutely. and the hotly contested eurovision final, of course, takes place this evening amidst some confusion after the dutch act was . banned from dutch act was. banned from rehearsals as officials launched an investigation . an investigation. >> well, all of this comes as pro—palestinian demonstrations continue to surround the event, calling for israel to be banned in the same way that russia has been. >> and we're absolutely delighted now to be joined by 981 bucks fizz eurovision winner jay aston. jay's absolutely a delight to talk to you on this day. a day, of course, when you made history with bucks fizz. let's just talk about that moment for everyone remembers the skirts getting ripped off, but what about the feeling when you weren't? it must have been that absolutely magnificent moment. >> it was amazing and it changed our lives. it was quite historic. we didn't realise it at the time. we only won by a few points and i think the skirt pred few points and i think the skirt ripped definitely helped. but we went into this sort of at the at the end of the show, we went
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into this big arena and then it was just flashbulbs going off. and for the next 2 or 3 years we literally were in and out of different countries in europe, all over the world, our lives changed because of that silly, silly song that meant nothing, and it was only three minutes long. >> eurovision isn't. it should be about silliness and meaninglessness, and yet it seems to be being hijacked by political issues. now do you have any sympathy for the contestant from israel who herself hasn't come out on any particular side of the argument? just happens to be from the country in the centre of a big geopolitical row. should she be treated like this? >> i do feel very sorry for her because she's 20, you know, she's to me , she's a young girl she's to me, she's a young girl or young woman and she'll have all of this conflict. so she's going on stage and she's got cheers and boos and it will in a way tarnish her career. i mean, i'm sure she'll be very successful in her homeland, but it's just really difficult. it
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does seem to be that eurovision, which is meant to be a bringing together of people to just listen to music and to be a happy event is more and more often being taken into a political arena, and it's being used for that purpose. i mean, we didn't realise it back in the day, but we'd had a threat actually by the ira, and although we knew there was some kind of problem because we had all this extra security, we were unaware of what it was. thankfully it all went off very well. then but it is, you know, it's frequently kind of hijacked for these reasons. so i, i hope it goes well for her, i mean, people are protesting outside . people are protesting outside. they have a right to protest. but i think booing, you know , but i think booing, you know, booing her is not going to change anything on the ground in gaza. is it? >> i think, jay, that one thing that could come out of this is that could come out of this is that the public watching this, many of whom would have been ambivalent or neutral and, as you say, not especially interested in the politics. they're there for the lambrini and the feather boas and just the ding dong lambrini . well, the ding dong lambrini. well, you know what i mean. they're there for the old fashioned fun
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of it all, you know that camp kitsch get together. suddenly it's become something quite different. could actually that feeling of this 20 year old israeli woman being so attacked and ostracised end up going in her favour because we know that the general public love an underdog . underdog. >> that's true. i am very interested to see what happens because you get the vote from the kind of the judges that are more technical from each country. but then when it goes to the public vote, you can be at the bottom of the leaderboard and you can go to the top when the public vote happens, i mean, obviously we did really well with sam ryder and he was doing really, really well. of course, we all sort of voted for ukraine at that time, last, you know, two years ago. and it changed everything. and they shot to the top. so we'll see how the public feel about this situation . and i feel about this situation. and i guess that's why it's, you know, it's become a political event, which it shouldn't be. >> but yeah , winner tends to >> but yeah, winner tends to have some sort of political story behind them perhaps. and
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maybe that will happen tonight if it isn't, israel or whoever the, you know, the sort of political vote goes in favour of who have you got your money on? because there's lots of talk around croatia and baby lasagne and ireland called bambie thug. now for me, of the two bambie thugis now for me, of the two bambie thug is all a little bit demonic and a bit frightening, but maybe that kind of is the spirit of the crazy . the crazy. >> but i guess she's got a gimmick, you know, it can be to your advantage. i do think, at the moment, baby lasagne, the croatian song does seem to be literally in the lead. so probably i put my money on that one and bambi for good merit, probably second. but i think israel will come , you know, israel will come, you know, probably in the top five. sadly, i'm not sure about our song, although it's good. it's not a great song, he's a great performer, olly, but i don't feel i hope we're on the right side of the leaderboard and not down the bottom. >> great. many people watching this , j. | >> great. many people watching this , j. i said earlier this
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this, j. i said earlier this week, let's bring back bucks fizz. it was an era of innocence , of bubblegum, of fun. a full on foregone era. if you imagine now everything . is now everything. is so politicised, don't you think? we just want to get back to basics, keep eurovision just about fun and love? >> absolutely. yeah. i don't think we'll be going back. i mean, mike's actually just announced that he's leaving the band at the end of the year, and we've only got a couple of major concerts left, a farewell concerts left, a farewell concert for him in november. so i think you struggle with that one. but then, martin, how's your skirt ripping skills? i mean, you know, i know you're a bit taller. >> us. >> us. >> it's a bit, at least. at least get me a drink first. jay. >> yeah, well, i think we might say goodbye. >> otherwise, we're going to get a call from air. >> carry on, carry on. don't stop. we want to keep going. no. go on. all right, jay, appreciate it. >> and i know you'll be raising a glass to olly alexander at this evening, come what may. thanks very much indeed. >> now, that didn't go where i
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expected it to, but in a good way. let's move on. let's calm my pulse now. still to come. kylian mbappe is off. he's given up on paris saint—germain and he's off to madrid. and that's all in the sport. next with
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aidan magee. >> just keeping an eye on all of your views. coming in to your stay. and in amongst them was one from mrs. webster. yeah. complaining you got your facts wrong there, martin. i did fact checking from the webster house. or what was she saying? >> so i said there's going to be a 90 mile tailback today. but it wasn't that. >> it was at 19 mile diversion, which is different . which is different. >> a little bit of journalistic license. >> michelle h has got in touch. isabel the m25 was closed for the whole weekend back in march. this is not the first time it has been completely closed. you are right. but as i've been saying all morning, it's the first time it's been closed dunng first time it's been closed during the day and it's been closed at night as well. so it's been closed till monday. so
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there as my director has just said to my ear, so anyway, now we've put the scores right, let's go to the sport. >> how come in the fact check you look good and i look bad i don't know, i'm selectively picking the ones i want to read out there because you're the boss. no problem at all. now. welcome back. you're watching and listening to breakfast. of course, with isabel and martin. now it's time to go through all the sports news and it's aidan magee in the studio. let's talk about mbappe, kylian mbappe, of course. paris saint—germain bowing out. he looks absolutely devastated in the week when dortmund, borussia dortmund knocked them out of the champions league and now it looks like he's auf. >> well i was going to ask you a favourite bucks first song. first of all, why are you making your mind up? i'm going to do the i'll do i'll do the sport. yeah, yeah, yeah. so, kelly, kelly mbappe it's no, it's no, it's no great secret that he was going to go and he's announced this week or yesterday. in fact, he said it's my last year at psg . i will not extend and the adventure will come to an end in adventure will come to an end in a few weeks. they've got two league games left. they've got a french cup final against lille on may the 25th and that'll be him. be over and out now. i look
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back on the season , ten years back on the season, ten years he's been there. he joined in 2017 for i think it was, £125 million from monaco. he's a parisian look. they regularly won the league. they won the league every year i think apart from one that he was there and i. but he just couldn't land the champions league. they got to the final in 2020 against bayern munich. no fans in the ground. they lost that one, and obviously in the week as you said, look devastated to lose against borussia dortmund. and then it's all eyes on where he goes next. 255 goals. he's won a world cup in 2018. he scored a hat trick in the final, which ultimately france lost to argentina at the end of 2022. but he is worth whatever madrid real madrid would pay for him if he was worth any value. his contract is out. so they're saving. they're saving on the on the transfer fee. but the money instead £128 million, we believe will go on a signing on fee. so that means he's wages £12.8 million a season. probably aren't as high as they would be for a player commensurate with his level. but if you're getting £128 million upfront in your pocket, then you know that's that's going to smooth things over a little bit. but real
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madrid is going to be an outstanding move for him. that's where he wanted to go. that's what agents are are increasingly doing these days. martin. they're they're plotting. they're they're plotting. they're plotting the players timeline. so and the same thing is going to happen with erling haaland, i think when they get to 25, 26, that's when they make the big move to real madrid and they confirm their status as a galactico . but that's clearly an galactico. but that's clearly an mbappe over and out at psg. a couple more weeks of him there, but then we're going to see him to move to spain. >> there's no chance of any premier league team having a nibble trying to get him over here. >> arsenal. arsenal flirted a few a couple of months ago back in january. i think arteta was asked about it, but i don't think if you're arteta and you want to look like an ambitious club, a club that's preening to go towards the premier league title for the first time in 20 years, you don't want to be distancing yourself from a player of that magnitude, but in all reality, everyone has known in football . i all reality, everyone has known in football. i mean, he he joined real madrid two years ago and eventually he signed the extra two year deal. so i don't see him going anywhere else. real madrid looks a natural fit. he's a big personality. he's got a bit to prove because he's not one that champions league. of course, despite everything he's
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achieved, international level. but we're going to see him go there and i think he'll he'll look the part like he's done loads of football all morning. >> let's move now to the crack of leather on willow. we're talking about jemmy anderson ending his test career. >> well yeah, it looks like i mean, you know, i don't think it's his decision. i think it's going to be the decision of brendon mccullum. as as we mccallum as we as we know him. he played he's played four out of the last five england tests. so he's still very much part of the side. but the next time the ashes comes around martin he's going to be 43 years old. you have to jump off the carousel at some point now. i remember back in 2008 when they played the ashes and he was he was instrumental in reclaiming the ashes that time for england as a very young player. but, i think i think we might get one more farewell this summer when they face the west indies . but after face the west indies. but after that, just like mbappe, i think he's going to be exiting, that, just like mbappe, i think he's going to be exiting , stage he's going to be exiting, stage left. but what a career. i mean , left. but what a career. i mean, 700 700 odd test wickets in 187 tests. and as i say, still very much part of the squad and made an impact last summer as well. the during the ashes as england plundered a draw.
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>> okay. aidan magee superb as ever and we'll see you in the next hour and then we will dive more into the upcoming premier league action later on today. >> oh, something to look forward to. >> thanks very much aiden. all right. still to come. we're taking a look through the morning papers in the company of kevin
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>> right. grab yourself a cup of tea. a piece of toast. settle in. we're going through your saturday morning newspapers in the fantastic company this morning of kevin schofield and emma wolff. and emma, we're going to start with you with a comment piece in the express, following on from sir keir starmer's announcement yesterday that he's going to reverse the rwanda deal, the rwanda bill, just as soon as he gets into power. >> yeah, well, this is really interesting. there's a couple of angles here. firstly, do we believe keir starmer that he's got the magic. you know, he's got the magic. you know, he's got the magic solution to all this because he's given it a fancy new name. he's going to spend what 75 million on this, on this really intractable problem that no one else has
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managed to deal with, but also agreed rwanda is a ludicrous policy, agreed the cost is eye—watering and maybe now sunak is saying maybe flights will get off the ground in june, not july. so we're actually bringing it back. but i wonder, is it right if it is working, if it does become a deterrent and i've got no you know, i've got no truck with the rwanda scheme. is it right then for keir starmer. he's sticking to his guns. he's saying i'm going to scrap it even if it's working. i'm going to scrap the scheme, which really just adds insult to injury. it's, you know, even more colossal waste of taxpayers money, what, 500 million probably north of that. so, i mean, there's a sort of sort of a mess. obviously keir starmer wants to look tough on this. he keeps saying this same old line about smashing the criminal gangs, using international law, and then this border elite border force that he's an elite elite border security command unit , elite border security command unit, command unit that kevin featuring m15 and £75 million of money. >> that's about what they spend
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on hotels in one week. what i find fascinating about this is this notion that you can just smash the criminal gangs we've been trying that the national crime agency has tried that with links that we spent half £1 billion with the french. we've arrested multiple individuals. the latest one is the scorpion. barzan majid . he was nicked in barzan majid. he was nicked in iraq. and yet at the same time , iraq. and yet at the same time, sir keir starmer was giving this announcement yesterday. if he looked out the window, 200 people rocked up in dinghies. >> yeah. i mean, you'd think they've already surely been trying this and it hasn't worked and unclear as to how it would suddenly work under a labour government . and also, you know, government. and also, you know, the point of the rwanda plan is to make it a deterrent. now, i'm sure the people smugglers are looking at the same opinion polls that we are. and if they're thinking, well, hang on a minute, we're going to get a labour government by the end of the year who have committed to getting rid of the rwanda plan, then where's the deterrent is gone. we might as well just keep coming, which the figures suggest is happening, is up 35% already this year compared to last year. so the government have stopped talking about the numbers coming down. and again, rishi sunak plays to stop the
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boats. that's the problem for him politically is that, you know, it's a very simple pledge to make what's so difficult to actually we've got some a labour shadow cabinet member coming on in around ten, 15 minutes. >> so we will ask them about it. but i'm not clear if they could find a third country that was deemed safe by the supreme court, whether they actually would continue with the policy, if it's actually rwanda that they've got the problem with, or if it is the issue of deporting people without actually having a case heard the issue, i think it's more about whether or not they are legitimate asylum seekers. >> labour, the party would find it very difficult to force deportation to anywhere, even if it was somewhere nice. i just don't think. or somewhere safe. >> well, they've mentioned costa rica, which i've heard is a wonderful place to live. >> the quality of life in costa rica. and, you know, they're not having any they don't want to take off. >> botswana is a fantastic place as well. that's also quite a few brits who'd quite like to get a £5,000 tax free payout, get sent away for five years. >> i will move to costa rica. >> i will move to costa rica. >> they can give me some money as well and i'll do it, kevin, let's take a look at the front
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of the eye. they are saying that the treasury is working on a further tax cut. the question is really whether or not that will move the dial for the government. we've had all this good news. yeah. and yet people just don't feel better off. >> no. and it's another £0.02 cut to national insurance. now they've already cut £0.04 off national insurance and the polls. if anything are getting worse. so i don't really see why they think just knocking another £0.02 off is going to produce any tangible political benefit for them, not least because they're talking about announcing it in september, i'm not sure when it would be implemented, but if we're going to have an election, maybe a month, maybe two months at most after that, no one's going to notice it in their pocket, and they're certainly not going to notice it in time to give the tories any kind of political benefit. so it just feels to me like it's far too little, far too late. really? >> yeah. i think people are starting to believe, aren't they, emma? you know, the conservative party always genetically in its dna, the party of low tax. we haven't had that. party of low tax. we haven't had that . we've got the highest that. we've got the highest taxes since world war two. a lot of people might, might start to
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think . all that time ago, think. all that time ago, i voted for boris johnson. did we get jeremy corbyn? >> exactly. and look, as we've said before, it's people are voting with their wallets. people are feeling poorer. they're not going to notice toopy of national insurance for a month or two as a kind of obvious bribe, an obvious before the next election. they're not fools. >> they might think, you know what? i'll just be taxed even more under labour and think that a toopy , tax cut, whether or not a toopy, tax cut, whether or not they notice it or not, will just resonate. maybe that's the theory anyway. >> well, that's the theory. >> well, that's the theory. >> moving the dial, but that's a bit of a hail mary pass really for them, i think. >> right. >> right. >> it's britain. so of course it's sunny today, which probably means it's going to thunder and chuck down with rain tomorrow . chuck down with rain tomorrow. emma, let's talk about the weather. we love it. >> it's a bit depressing this because we are going to have i mean this is basically summer. so today and tomorrow is basically summer. i just heard from a friend in stoke who's watching saying, we've got storms here tomorrow. you know, we've just had a few days of proper and i think the mood has lifted. i think people, you know, we were in westminster yesterday and you were talking about people sort of strolling around, getting out to the pubs, all of that. it's a lovely
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feeling out there . but, you feeling out there. but, you know, apparently after this we've got a day or two more and then we've got thunderstorms and very, very unsettled weather, and then the warm weather will be back so easily get will we have a summer weather? >> weather forecaster webster. >> weather forecaster webster. >> yes, we will, but it will be earlier. i have a theory that our summers now are more sort of may to end of july, and august and september start to get a bit dodgy. >> i've noticed. >> i've noticed. >> yeah, well, i didn't watch last night. i was, i was out, not out, out, but i was taking, i was giving some of the lift and the bins out. >> that's a massive downgrade from being out last night. >> yeah, yeah, i drove somebody somewhere. i should quickly clarify that. and, and it was just like such a lovely, warm evening and people were out. yeah walking with their kids. it was just. it makes such difference. >> obviously we don't go out, out, but we hear them outside living their lives as we take out the bins first thing in the morning. >> you're not out. yeah, yeah. >> you're not out. yeah, yeah. >> well, this morning i was cycling in at five and there were people who were still out, out. and i felt very old. they were in miniskirts. they were . were in miniskirts. they were. they were still clubbing. >> yeah. yeah.
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>> yeah. yeah. >> i remember those forlorn, distant days. yeah. anyway, this caught my eye. kevin cat flaps should be banned. what on earth is about? >> yeah. so this is a peer, there was a debate yesterday in in the lords and lord blencathra says that it would basically help preserve, garden birds because, i mean, the numbers are enough. we've got a couple of cats and i think a cat flap, not having a cat flap or not or keep your cats in is quite cruel because cats need to be outside. they go bananas. totally agree indoors, but they kill 260 million mammals a year in the uk . now that includes mice, obviously, and rats and a lot of birds. and he says basically keep them in so that they don't kill all this or put a collar with a bell on. >> that's what we've done. makes a huge with a bell, because the birds hear the bell coming and scarper. >> so he's not saying cat flaps are problematic, just letting your cat outside. i thought there was something actually wrong with cat flap. >> no, he does see here. he says i would make it even worse. sorry. >> feed our birds in the garden with a bird feeder. and then we
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have a cat. it's like we're enticing them in. and it's a hot buffet. >> yeah, the cat and our cat has just discovered his murderous abilities . abilities. >> he was just recently kitten. >> so now my cat, a cat, my cat got cat napped when it was six months old. >> we got it back. oh, you got cat naps? and do you know what? i bought this satnav device for the column. like an airtag? >> yeah, and it was so big. >> yeah, and it was so big. >> the cat was, like, dragging it , and i >> the cat was, like, dragging it, and i thought, i've got to take it off. we've got a cat flap and i absolutely swear by it, because otherwise the cat just does his business on the floor. cat flaps are brilliant. >> yeah, you gotta let them out. you've got to have them. do you still have this satnav on your cat? >> why, no, it was too big. >> why, no, it was too big. >> but just get an airtag. >> but just get an airtag. >> where do you put it? on the cat collar? >> yeah, if you want to see where they're going. >> well, it's better than a satnav, my friend. >> i'm fascinated to find out where they go. >> yeah, absolutely. i wish they could. my idea. >> absolutely. i feel like there's lots they don't tell us. >> but he was talking around with the neighbours. you see, that's what happened with shapps. >> why was he stolen? >> why was he stolen? >> no, he's a moggie. oh, right. >> no, he's a moggie. oh, right. >> he just good looking. good
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looking. >> yeah, yeah. one of those. harry, harry the mog. >> harry people like. >> harry people like. >> right. >> right. >> okay. well, we're going to say goodbye to kevin and to emma and hello to harry and hector, my cat at home. if they're watching , it's a good day for watching, it's a good day for bird hunting. aidan mcgivern has all the forecasts for you now. >> what happened there, harry? in >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you on this beautiful sunny day. for many of us, it's going to be very warm into the afternoon. however, as temperatures rise, the chance in 1 or 2 spots of a thundery shower. by the time the day comes to a close. but for most people , as we begin most people, as we begin saturday, it is sunny out there, some low cloud and mistiness around eastern parts of england that will linger around the nonh that will linger around the north sea coast through the day. otherwise, inland blue skies for many, some patchy cloud developing , but with light winds
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developing, but with light winds and that strong sunshine, high uv levels as well. temperatures widely reaching the low 20s and in places the mid 20s are possible once again, then into the evening as temperatures rise well, the chance of a thundery shower or two across higher parts of central scotland . but parts of central scotland. but for the vast majority it stays dry. and that theme continues overnight. a bit more cloud arriving on saturday night and into the start of sunday, but it's going to be once again dry with clear spells and temperatures dipping to 12 or 13 celsius in many places. a bright start then on sunday, but some patchy cloud around and then as temperatures get, higher through the morning, the chance of some thundery showers developing once again more widely, this time across western scotland into western england, wales and northern ireland by the afternoon, where these occur , afternoon, where these occur, they're going to be heavy with torrential rain and lightning, but they will be hit and miss. still some warm sunshine away from the a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather
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starmer, with opposition mps fearing the country could see a shock result in the upcoming general election. reminiscent, of course , of 1992, a right of course, of 1992, a right royal hypocrisy . royal hypocrisy. >> critics hit out at the sussexes during their tour of nigeria , the 12th most dangerous nigeria, the 12th most dangerous country in the world, after he questioned his own security. we here in the uk and this morning, thousands of motorists are braced for chaos on the roads, with closures on the m25. >> with up to 6000 vehicles in both directions every hour, we could see major delays . i'm here could see major delays. i'm here at junction nine to see how bad it gets and the eurovision final is upon us. >> sweden, though, is ramping up security amid pro—palestinian demonstrations . demonstrations. >> it's a big weekend in the title . race it is both north and title. race it is both north and south of the border. the old firm kicks off at 1230 at parkhead, just as manchester city get underway at fulham.
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we'll also hear about mauricio pochettino's warning to the chelsea hierarchy. and in tennis, andy murray is primed for the french open. >> it's finally happening a warm, sunny day across the uk today, but how warm will it get and how long will it last? i'll have all the details in the weather coming up soon. >> i'm isabel webster and i'm martin daubney and this is breakfast on gb news. now, our top story this morning. the economy has grown at the fastest rate in two years, outpacing both america and the eurozone in. >> yeah, that means that the uk is now officially out of recession , with many hoping for recession, with many hoping for tax cuts over the next few months. >> well, this comes after the former labour leader, lord kinnock, claimed that voters in britain are not yet in love with sir keir starmer, with concerns emerging of a shock result in the upcoming election. >> now, you may well recall back
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in 1992, neil kinnock lost an election that many thought was simply unlosable . jul. simply unlosable. jul. >> well, i suppose with comments like that, it's really helping, you know, a little bit of red and red there. and lord kinnock might not have realised that his own son is in the shadow cabinet, stands to be in government if labour win comments like that, i'm sure really unhelpful. or maybe it's exactly what the labour voters need to hear in order to galvanise them and make sure they do turn out, which they failed to do in the numbers that everyone was expecting in the local elections. well, let's get the thoughts this morning of the shadow minister without portfolio, nick thomas—symonds, who joins us from wales. very good morning. great to see you. not only a little bit awkward for your colleague then in the shadow cabinet but unhelpful red on red. this from lord kinnock, a grandee of the party. >> well first of all very good to join you. but i'm sorry, i've only just joined so i haven't caught. what the what the comments are. i didn't see the previous clip because i couldn't hear it. so sure, perhaps you could just explain to me what?
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what? >> absolutely. with pleasure. so this was an interview that lord kinnock gave to radio four. it's on the front of the telegraph this morning, where he feared a 1992 style disappointment may occur where he himself lost an election that was deemed unusable. and he fears that voters are not yet in love with sir keir starmer and warns that we could see a repeat of 1992. >> i think that's that's a listen, that's a prescient warning to every single person in the labour party from the shadow cabinet to mps generally to all other representatives and party members, that we take absolute nothing for granted. and i think that it is very good advice to be saying that it's a message that keir starmer frequently gives to all of us quite rightly, not a single vote has been cast in the general election yet, and that is a reminder of us being out there fighting for every single vote, which is exactly what we will do. that's what you know in the
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local elections. indeed, in blackpool south, where i was in recent weeks, of course, we got that enormous 26% swing. but that enormous 26% swing. but that happened not only because of what's happening at westminster . of what's happening at westminster. keir of what's happening at westminster . keir starmer of what's happening at westminster. keir starmer is changing of the labour party, but also it happened because of the real hard work and graft of activists on the ground. and what you're saying important, what you're saying important, what you're saying is something different. >> forgive me. what you're saying is there's no room for complacency. and that is a point that all members of the labour party need to bear in mind. but what lord kinnock here is actually pointing to is somebody who is presiding over a 20 point poll lead at the moment, and still people are not in love with your leader. it's hardly a ringing endorsement. in fact, some people could say that that's actually cutting away at his success and could could do him some harm. >> no, i don't, i don't agree with that, obviously. look, i'll have to look at lord kinnock's comments in a bit more detail and see see the context as well as you can imagine. but at the
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same time, i think the central message that we have come a long way as a labour party, but we know we have to go even further to win trust. that is an absolutely sound point to make. and that is precisely what we will be doing. we take absolutely nothing for granted. and whilst i think most people would say the transformation of the labour party and the keir starmer's leadership from our worst defeat since 1935, back in 2019 to where we are at the moment, is a quite remarkable one. we all know that that is not complete, we all know we have to continue trying to gain the trust of more and more people, and that is, frankly, precisely what we will do going forward. heeding whether it's lord kinnock or indeed anyone else, setting out that that's what we should be doing. >> but you must nevertheless admit that, sir keir starmer is no tony blair. tony blair could play no tony blair. tony blair could play the guitar. he had oasis in 10 downing street. he's a guy
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who resonated with the public, a fantastic orator, somebody who switched on the optimism . and switched on the optimism. and the need for change. back in 97, i covered that election. the dying days of the john major regime, mired in sleaze, eating itself, self—immolation. history is repeating itself in that sense, with the conservatives but what you don't have is a blair type figure to get the people really, really excited. so keir starmer is mr magnolia . so keir starmer is mr magnolia. >> well, i don't necessarily agree. i think keir is somebody i'd say, by the way, he's a much better five a side footballer than, than tony blair. though tony might disagree with that, what i would say though is that every politician, every leader is a product of their time. and this is a very different time, from 1997, because in 1997, compared to now, the economy was in a very different position . in a very different position. pubuc in a very different position. public services were certainly on their knees in 1997, but in
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2024, i would argue the challenges are even greater. it isn't just about public services . once again, being in a dire state after a long period of conservative rule, but also the cost of living crisis at a level that, frankly, it wasn't . that that, frankly, it wasn't. that in 1997 and what we need in 2024 is not, one of our leaders of the past. attlee was right for the past. attlee was right for the post—war era. harold wilson was right for the 1960s. tony blair was right for the 1990s and the years after that. but what we need for 2024 is a different type of leader. we need a leader like keir starmer , need a leader like keir starmer, who frankly understands the scale of the challenges and is a serious figure for serious times , who is willing to put in that hard , difficult work that is hard, difficult work that is required to tackle the profound challenges we face. and we saw that, frankly, yesterday in his speech about creating a border
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security command unit. >> we'll come to that in a minute. but just yeah, we will come to rwanda in a minute. but just on on the point of your endorsement, i suppose your faith in sir keir starmer as the right man for the job at this point, will you put your money where your mouth is then, and rule out any sort of election pact with the liberals? a lib—lab pact. >> there will be no pact going in to the general election. we are aiming for a what about coming out of it labour government? well, coming out of it , i'm never government? well, coming out of it, i'm never going to prejudge the judgement of the british people. but one thing i can say, ruling it out, then we will never do a deal before or indeed after the general election with the scottish national party, because . their values are because. their values are completely inimicable to ours. but more broadly, in terms of numbers in the house of commons, the reason we don't get into this discussion is because we are aiming to win. we do not go out there aiming for anything
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less than a labour government with a working majority . and with a working majority. and that's absolutely what. >> forgive me, just to check that i've heard that correctly. you are ruling out any sort of deal with the snp after the election, not ruling one out with the liberal democrats. but you're trying to tell me that's nothing to do with the fact you don't have enough faith in your own party to win an absolute majority. well, the reason that i'm saying that in respect of the scottish national party is that anybody looking from outside can see, obviously , that outside can see, obviously, that our values are completely different. >> we believe in the yes, certainly we believe in strong devolution, but we believe in the union of the united kingdom. they do not. that is so fundamental that all i'm doing is stating the obvious to you in terms of the fact that there are no circumstances in which we could come to any arrangement with the scottish national party. so that's just making that obvious . point more that obvious. point more broadly, in terms of other parties. the reason i'm saying to you as i am, which is that we
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are not in any sense planning for deals either before or after the election is because we are absolutely determined to get a majority. and the swings that we've seen. blackpool south 26, the swings in tamworth, in wellingborough, you know, selby and ainsty, of course, these are all, very, significant , swings all, very, significant, swings that would point towards that, which is what we're doing . which is what we're doing. >> well, the thing about power sharing deals, nick, you know, is that nobody wants to do them until they have to do them and then suddenly they'll jump into bed with whatever it takes to get the vote over the line. in terms of the majority, i digress. let's move on to border control. sir keir starmer yesterday rebadging what you've offered before the now, the so—called elite border security command sounds a bit like something you promised before, but with a different fancy name. £75 million sounds like a lot. that's actually only about the amount of money spent on hotels in one week. and the key strategy seems to be smashing
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the gangs overseas. i put it to you, we've been doing that for years. the national crime agency has been doing that for years. we've given £500 million to the french every year. that hasn't worked. this week, the scorpion , worked. this week, the scorpion, a man called barzan majeed, an iraqi citizen deported from uk, one of the biggest people smugglers into . the uk, smuggled smugglers into. the uk, smuggled so many people into britain he's forgotten the true number. he's been nicked. he'll be replaced immediately. isn't this. it sounds great. it sounds effective. but really, unless we actually stop the boats getting to britain, unless we turn them back to france, they will continue to become. because britain is such an attractive proposition. >> well, i don't agree with with that analysis. and but let me just say, first of all, martin, i've actually been. >> don't you agree? >> don't you agree? >> well, i'll come to that, but let me just say i've been down to dover. i've actually seen the work that our frontline law enforcement are doing, and i've
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been across to france as well and seen that work. and it isn't and seen that work. and it isn't a criticism of what front line law enforcement officers are doing. it's about the lack of leadership , the lack of leadership, the lack of competence of the government. now, why would the border security command be different, which is the fair challenge that you're putting to me now with that border security command. first of all, you have a commander who reports direct to the home secretary. but what they do is they bring together they do is they bring together the different organs , nations the different organs, nations that are involved in this. so from . border force, the national from. border force, the national crime agency, crown prosecution service, international immigration enforcement, but also very crucially, m15 , which also very crucially, m15, which allows all these organisations to share information, the information that they need. we also need to be sharing information with europol in the hague as well. and the reason we do that is we do that to make sure that the arrests just finish this point. martin come back to your point. make sure
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that we are actually tackling the people smuggling gangs at source across europe, and we treat it like we have counter—terror operations with, yes, the commander and the unit, the additional, specialists that we can recruit with the additional £75 million, but also the powers, things like serious crime prevention orders we've been using so that we can restrict what people do prior to conviction in areas like counter—terrorism. we successfully transfer it here. so comprehensive plan to bust the gangs, not just a gimmick. yeah. >> and forgive me for interrupting. we did hear extensively from sir keir starmer on that plan. james cleverly, the home secretary, today saying that this will turn the uk into an asylum sieve, the asylum capital of the world. but we're almost out of time and i really quickly want to ask you about another story that's making headlines coming out of labour hq and that is private schools. a new report has found that enrolments in independent schools has fallen by 2.7. that is the biggest drop in over a decade, and this is believed to be as a result of reticence,
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fear ahead of this huge 20% increase in fees that you would be levying on private school pupils, do you think that this could become a policy that you come to regret if you do indeed implement it? because all the word that we're getting from the independent sector is that use hugely underestimated the number of children that will then have to return into the state sector, as schools are unable to sustain the low level of pupils that can still afford those extortionate fees . fees. >> no, i don't, and i think if you look at private school fees over the last ten years, they've risen very substantially indeed. it's up to the independent schools themselves , by the way, schools themselves, by the way, whether they want to pass on all of this to parents or not. but the independent institute for fiscal studies has looked at this policy, looked at the fact it will raise around about £13 billion. and what that enables us to do is to put around about 6500 additional teachers into our state sector . in 6500 additional teachers into our state sector. in my 6500 additional teachers into our state sector . in my view, our state sector. in my view, this is a fundamental issue of
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fairness for not just yes, if parents want that choice, if parents want that choice, if parents want that choice, if parents want to pay for their children to go to private school, they can continue to do so. but it also low levels, just levels that playing field a little bit for the 93% who just have to interject. >> i know we're out of time, but ineed >> i know we're out of time, but i need to make this point, don't you think? just look at the make up of private schools now. you have so many people from overseas, they won't care about the fees going up. they'll they'll still keep paying it. british hardworking families who give everything to get their kids into those schools, they'll be forced out of it. it will hit those who who are aspirational middle working classes, people from china, people from asia. they'll just keep paying the money. >> but also the reason this matters to everybody is that those middle class families who can no longer afford the now extortionate fees will be able to afford the houses near the good state schools pushing out those children who aren't from such wealthy backgrounds to the worst schools, and it is the most disadvantaged who will suffer at the hands of a labour
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policy. will it not be? >> i'm sorry, but but on on the first, on the first point, it's up to the independent schools. the extent to which they wish to passit the extent to which they wish to pass it on. but secondly, and crucially, i don't accept for a minute that the 93% who go to state schools don't have aspirational parents as well. this idea that it's only the 7% who go to independent schools, families who make huge sacrifices, which will just not be able to continue in that vein. >> but you don't address the point about those from the most depnved point about those from the most deprived backgrounds. actually being affected by this policy. no. >> because those. no. hang on, the most deprived backgrounds, the most deprived backgrounds, the 93% who go to state schools will benefit significantly from this policy in terms of mental health support in every school, in terms of additional teachers. so the most vulnerable actually will get a better deal in the state sector as a result of this policy. so actually, it's the opposite effect to what you've just suggested. >> okay. nick thomas—symonds, thank you very much for joining us and being so forthright this morning on breakfast. always a pleasure to have your company.
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thank you. to see you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much indeed. right. tell us where we're going next team. are we on to our next or are we taking a break. oh we are. we're going to the m25 because we're being told travel is only allowed if absolutely necessary or advised, as thousands of drivers are following the unprecedented closure of the m25. >> yeah, and the five mile stretch in surrey between junctions nine and ten are now shut until 6 am. on monday, causing delays and a 19 mile diversion. >> well, it is the first scheduled daytime shutdown of all lanes on the m25 since it opened back in 1986. >> well, joining us now is the intrepid gb news reporter ray anderson, stuck somewhere on a flyover around the m25. ray, what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> well, the latest is the traffic here. i'm in leatherhead, just overlooking junction nine of the m25 , where junction nine of the m25, where that closure is taking place. and the latest is with the traffic. is increased considerably. it's often at a
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crawl and sometimes at a standstill . although if you take standstill. although if you take a look behind me now, you'll see that it's too not bad at the moment. so it seems to be intermittent and we are expecting it to build throughout the day. this is, of course , a the day. this is, of course, a full weekend . closure until full weekend. closure until 6 am. on monday, so that national highways can install concrete beams for that new bridge. that was the reason for the last closure as well as work began on that new bridge over the m25, aa warning this is going to be incredibly busy today and tomorrow. up to 6000 vehicles in both directions. forced into that 19 mile diversion . and of that 19 mile diversion. and of course, people wanting to really enjoy the sunshine this weekend. one of the hottest weekends, if not the hottest weekend . of the not the hottest weekend. of the yeah not the hottest weekend. of the year. people heading to thorpe park, legoland in windsor as well. people commuting between
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heathrow and gatwick would be using this stretch of the motorway and they are going to be disrupted now. we understand national express are putting on extra coaches for people as well, but they'll have to travel along that diversion too. and so national highways saying only travel if it's completely necessary because remember those five mile tailbacks that we had last time and all those little villages hit by all that extra traffic? although we did see last time, it wasn't as bad as expected at some points as people heeded that advice. so this route is taking people through the a2 one seven, the a2 40 and the a3. and so it's actually going past chessington world of adventures in oxshott as well. so if you're headed there, the diversion is taking taking you there if it as you will. now people are being warned though. don't follow your satnav. don't follow your satnav. don't follow your satnav. follow the official diversion because the official diversion because the official diversion takes you on a route where you won't be charged extra
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for ulez. ulez, of course, is i think £12.50 a day. if you don't pay think £12.50 a day. if you don't pay it, you can get £180 fine. now, if you stray from that official route, you could end up in an area where you're being charged. if you're not aware of it, you could end up with that penalty. and so people say only travel if necessary. and be careful that you only follow that official . route. i think that official. route. i think you can see now the traffic is slowing. i can see just heading towards me now. it's slowing to a complete standstill at the moment. >> okay. ray anderson, thank you for that report. excellent as even for that report. excellent as ever. and bedlam out there. and you know that 19 that 19 mile diversion past chessington adventure park. what a nightmare that's gonna be for parents. got the t shirt in there myself. stuck in there. >> it's always on hot days as well. so you're going to have the screaming kids in the back of a boiling hot car and oh, nightmare. i just want to read out a couple of your saved views. paul anthony has been in touch, having worked at a well—known private school in
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you just had a shot of espresso. he's buzzing now. he's like you. me, you to you to me. to you, anyway. i'll go. welcome back. you're watching. listening to breakfast with isabel and martin. don't worry. it's not monday morning. you haven't overslept. missed the whole weekend . we've stepped in. weekend. we've stepped in. there's been a sort of rotor jiggles, and we've taken one for the team, haven't we, martin? we have. you're doing a 12 week, 12 day week. yeah. >> i'm doing. i'm just on five days doing the weekend. doing next five days. that's gonna be 12 days. my record is 19 days. >> this place would fall apart without you. well done. >> top work. i'm falling apart being here anyway. >> let's move on. espressos tucking them. >> time to go through all the latest sports news. broadcaster aidan magee here is here with us. it wouldn't be a sports round without me banging on about nottingham forest, but today it is relevant. it's all today it is relevant. it's all to play for at the bottom of the table. >> well why not i mean look it's a huge game for nottingham forest after all the travails they've suffered this season with the managerial change, all the financial issues, the financial penalties as well
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because the profit and sustainability issues, they have a chance to secure themselves for another season and that cannot be overstated. martin. i mean, just staying in the premier league, in the last 15, 20 years, it's become existential. it's more important to be here than actually do anything in it. yeah. and so for forest, who obviously spent a penod forest, who obviously spent a period between 1999 and 2022 outside of the top flight to secure a third season in the top division is absolutely enormous for them and marinakis has spoken out, the owner said that, you know, we were disappointed we didn't get the appeal. nuno nuno espirito santo said. likewise, you've got marinelli or sorry murillo. they've got the centre backs saying that they're confident they're going to starve. i think that the club has resolved, given that mark clattenburg left the club a couple of weeks ago, they need to move on from this and they've resolved to think, well , resolved to think, well, actually we're going to get away with it this season. we're going to be all right. so let's not stop bleating about what's gone before everyone gets a clean slate next season and we go there. chelsea, you never know what you're going to get. they've had problems of their own this season. hugely. i mean, they've spent £1 billion last summer that puts everybody else's spending in the shade
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doesn't it. it really does dwarf anything else. any, any anything anyone else has spent. however, chelsea don't travel that well to city. the city ground. they've not been there many times in recent, in recent years they don't travel well. there and of course forest won at stamford bridge earlier in the season. >> yeah, i've got a few quid on this. i've got a few spread bets, i reckon. i reckon forest could have a little nibble here. i think it's a final home game of the season. you know city ground is a is a fantastic arena. you know when that mull of kintyre starts blasting i think also i think luton as well going to west ham today i mean that'll have a bearing on stuff down there. >> what happens down there. but i also think that it doesn't play i also think that it doesn't play well on the three teams we've come from the championship that i think for the first time in 1990, since 1998, we've got a real chance that all where all three promoted sides could go back down. and that's even allowing for the fact that both everton and forest have been hit with financial penalties. >> and let's talk about that west ham luton game. so of course luton played before forest's. if west ham do win today that obviously will affect things at the bottom. let's let david moyes, it's his final swan song as west ham gaffer. >> yeah, and i think he will get a really good reception on his way out as well. i mean, you know, it's rare that i mean,
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alan curbishley said to me years ago when he left charlton, it's better to be clapped out the front than ushered out the back. and everyone knows david moyes is leaving. he'll go and get a decent job elsewhere. i'm absolutely certain of that. he saved them in 2017 after manuel pellegrini or so before manuel pellegrini or so before manuel pellegrini took over after the bilic era, and he said he kept them up. he then came up and did them up. he then came up and did the same. he came back to the club and did the same thing. then there were the european finishes, top tens and some of the players they've signed there as well have really burgeoned under his management have been absolutely outstanding. declan rice among them, he went off to arsenal, he got paquetta in midfield. you got jarrod bowen up front, marco antonio. we thought it was finished 3 or 4 years ago. david moyes seemed to be able to eke a little bit more out of him. and so i think he has every reason, given that they won the europa conference league last summer as well, to be really celebrated today and they should beat luton town at home. but you never know when a club has to fight for their life. >> fair to say. a lot of hammers fans have been grumbling over the months and years about the way that moyes plays. not the most dynamic, no, maybe. >> maybe not. i quite enjoy watching his teams, actually, i have to say, and i've covered him at most of the clubs he's been at. however, next season,
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when they're 4 or 5 places below in the division and the football's better, let's see. let's see if they're moaning then because i suspect they will be. >> and a little bit of action at the top. man city man city in action at 1230. >> same time as old firm kicks off in scotland. man city can go top today or just for a few for overnight. certainly until until arsenal go to old trafford tomorrow . arsenal go to old trafford tomorrow. i'm hoping to be at that game at 430. i'm still waiting to hear if i'm getting tickets and it's going to be a quick turnaround. >> me getting to old trafford andifs >> me getting to old trafford and it's on a knife edge at the top, who do you think's going to bag it? >> mystic magee i think it's going to be man city. i do. i just think they've got an easier and easier run in and when they've got the when they've got they've got the when they've got the prize in sight, they're very rarely take their eyes off it, do they. >> superb. always a pleasure aidan magee. thank you very much. good to see you both. hope you been keeping keeping everything crossed for nottingham forest later on. >> never known so much in my life about nottingham forest as ihave life about nottingham forest as i have as when i sit with you, but i suppose it makes a change from man united. it does? yeah, fabulous. right? stay with us. summer has finally arrived. we're enjoying a heat wave. it's hitting the country. but could it all end in tears? with the thunderstorms on the horizons? we'll have all the details in just a moment.
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just warming up for an interview with nicki french. she was our entry into the eurovision. and she sang total eclipse of the heart . and we were just watching heart. and we were just watching her rendition of it. and in the break and singing along. and then you were just regaling me with another version of it that you've had, which is not broadcast, but highly entertaining, but anyway, for more highly entertaining segments on eurovision, stay with us, because we've got nicki french coming up just before 10:00. >> yeah, but just when we thought we could enjoy a few days of sun, the met office says we can expect a weekend of weather madness. >> yeah. tomorrow there is a heat wave. 27 degrees in some places, followed then by, of course, the inevitable thunderstorms on sunday. >> well, joining us now is gb news scotland reporter tony maguire . tony, welcome to the maguire. tony, welcome to the show. good morning to you.
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what's the weather like north of the border? looks glorious. >> gorgeous. still got a jumper on though. yeah in norway yes i would say i'm being a little pessimistic. >> maybe a little cynical because of course it is at the minute, about 90 degrees up here in scotland, here in glasgow's botanical gardens and of course it looks very much like it's going to be a nice morning at the very least. and of course, scotland very famous for having four seasons and one day and indeed this weekend. well, it looks like we might start with a 99 and we're likely to end the weekend with holding an umbrella with those thunderstorms expected to bring rain all the way up the west coast and indeed much of the country. but right now, as you can tell with the big blue sky behind me, i was here early enough to set up the big green screen to make it look nice and sunny for you both. this morning, but indeed, basking and the warm temperatures in here in the west end. and of course , these great
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end. and of course, these great weather spell that we're having just now . well, that's the just now. well, that's the reason for those clear skies last night, which of course, we saw that the largest, geo thermal storm since geomagnetic storms since 2003. and of course, those amazing pink green aurora pictures coming from everywhere around the country, as far south as portsmouth and certainly today. i think the question on everyone's mind is, you know , is it too early to you know, is it too early to call summer yet? because we are technically in a three day spell that will make this a mini heatwave , as it will even if it heatwave, as it will even if it does come crashing and come down crashing and burning tomorrow with those thunderstorms which unfortunately is going to lead to a couple of weeks of rain . to a couple of weeks of rain. and certainly with the weather being as it is , of course, and being as it is, of course, and it may may come to an end sooner than you think, we'll be looking around glasgow to see whether we can even find a 99 for £0.99, because of course, the price of ice cream is another huge talking point as.
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ice cream is another huge talking point as . we move talking point as. we move forward into the summer. but for now at least, lots of people getting into position to get the best spots here in the botanical gardens in glasgow. >> lovely spot there. thanks very much, tony. appreciate it. although i'm reading, according to pa there's a warning of wildfires in parts of northern scotland because of this tinder dry weather. i hope that's not the case. appreciate it. let's head to will. will. hollis. >> yeah. and will you're there in nottingham court as an epic football fixture half past five this afternoon. will the sun be shining down on the city ground . shining down on the city ground. >> yes. well no mist rolling in from the trent today martin. bright clear blue skies. lots of people here on the side of the river trent preparing to enjoy england's third longest river. taking their canoes into the water, enjoying a quick row in the morning. lots of people out running as well, because this weekend is going to be the hottest weekend of the year so far. 26 degrees today expected in the southeast, even hotter
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tomorrow , but it doesn't last tomorrow, but it doesn't last forever. those thunderstorms . forever. those thunderstorms. two yellow weather warnings in place for the west coast of england. and then one one more for northern ireland. and the met office brings these yellow weather warnings into place for when there are risks of low level disruption , particularly level disruption, particularly for things like traffic and travel. but there are also 31 flood alerts in place. the lowest level of flood alert, a flood alert. the deputy chief meteorologist, dan harris , for meteorologist, dan harris, for the met office, says that when those thunderstorms start, intense downpours are possible and hail, frequent lightning strikes and strong wind gusts will be will bring additional localised hazards. but for right now, people all across the country will be making the most of those summery conditions the first time really this year that we're getting temperatures like this. the advice though, as always, when it gets to
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temperatures that are moderately warm, not quite the hottest we will experience for this year. so no heat health alerts from the uk h.s.a the health security agency. but there are still those general bits of advice wear sun cream, drink lots of water and don't go open water swimming in places that you shouldn't be. >> thank you. there will hollis, on the banks of the river trent. trent bridge in the background. of course. that's the city ground behind you there. hopefully they'll be outbreaks of sunshine with showers of lager later on. tony maguire also, thank you for joining us live from glasgow. i think you might take your jumper off. when? about july . when? about july. >> honestly. he cracks me up. see where the floodlights are. that's where the stadium is. and oh, you're just so excited. even i'm getting into it now i knew it. rubber. yeah of course. absolutely well good luck to them i suppose. and nice day for it. come what may. stay with us. lots more to go including are you ready for the eurovision final? obviously. lots of fun and excitement and kitchen campness, but also a lot of politics. this year. or maybe
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it's always the way with eurovision. we'll be talking to the one and only nicki french in the one and only nicki french in the studio for a total eclipse of our hearts. >> turn around
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i >> -- >> for you're doing. stop doing it ! sit >> for you're doing. stop doing it i sit down. whether you're in it! sit down. whether you're in the car, pull over. because i've just been told we're going to have a gb news exclusive. where martin daubney is going to duet with our eurovision entrants. from what year was it? nicki french ? french? >> i did 2000, but the one he wants to sing was from 1995. okay, the 1995 rendition of total eclipse of my heart . total eclipse of my heart. >> you just committed to it, nicki. so off you go, martin. take it away . take it away. >> turn around. >> turn around. >> every now and then i get a little bit lonely. and you're never coming round . never coming round. >> turn around, carry on. >> turn around, carry on. >> every now and then . >> every now and then. >> every now and then. >> what a good sport. that's brilliant . do
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>> what a good sport. that's brilliant. do you >> what a good sport. that's brilliant . do you know warmed brilliant. do you know warmed up. martin has been doing that all morning in the advert break. so thank you so much for indulging us. well welcome to the absolutely fabulous nicki. thank you so much for coming in. do you get excited about eurovision every year still every year? >> yeah. every year. and it's wonderful. i've had hardly any sleep. and yet as i said just now, it's the busiest week of my life. i love it, i love everything to do with eurovision. of course, it's a little bit difficult. this year, but it's just such a wonderful event to be a part of. it's normally it's so supportive there. everyone gets on, everyone's supporting each other. you make friends for life. you know, there's people from 2000 that i'm still in touch with. >> oh yeah, well, martin and i were saying , i >> oh yeah, well, martin and i were saying, i mean, we >> oh yeah, well, martin and i were saying , i mean, we people were saying, i mean, we people keep saying to us all morning, you know, this year is a bit different, but actually, if you think about it, eurovision has been a bit political for years. i mean, during the brexit years we got heavily penalised, didn't we, with the nil points. yes. and then we had obviously sam ryder losing out from top spot. perhaps a lot of people think that's okay because ukraine had had a worthy cause that year.
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but i suppose politics does kind of flirt with eurovision always. yeah. >> the ebu tried desperately to keep it out, to keep politics out . you know, they they clamped out. you know, they they clamped down. if i mean, in my year , the down. if i mean, in my year, the latvians, one of the guys was wearing a manchester united shirt and he had to cover it up with black tape so that there was no product placement or anything , was no product placement or anything, and the was no product placement or anything , and the political anything, and the political side, yes. there's there's sort of politics. there's also neighbourly voting , you know, neighbourly voting, you know, you know, the acts that are in the next door country to you because they're on the radio all the time. so you're going to vote for them. >> before we get onto the pro—palestine stuff , one thing i pro—palestine stuff, one thing i thought was particularly uncouth this time was the contestants having a dig at each other. so the whatever you think about the israeli situation, eden, golan, the israeli contestant at a press conference last night and the dutch contestant joost klein, was extraordinarily rude towards her, crossing his arms and interrupting . and also in
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and interrupting. and also in your day, were people catty and were they like this? >> absolutely not. and i've always said this . it's one of my always said this. it's one of my quotes is that eurovision does more for international relations than any government minister ever could, because that's how it's always been. everyone's always so supportive and really friendly, and it's such a positive feeling when you're when you're part of that huge eurovision bubble. it's such a positivity vie, and, you know, it's just you ride along on this bubble of, of eurovision energy if you like. and it's, it's fantastic. >> except this year, this, this political overview has cast a shadow over matters. i know you don't want to get too much into that, but the sight of 10,000 protesters outside a hotel, including greta thunberg, as you say, performers want to perform,
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singers want to sing . whatever singers want to sing. whatever you think about the situation in israel, eden golan isn't responsible for what's happening on the ground as an artist, to be prevented from singing must be prevented from singing must be the worst thing on the planet. >> yeah, and olly had the same thing. you know, he's had a lot of negativity for carrying on and olly alexander. >> who's our entry? yeah, he obviously was critical of the union jack flag, and that's gone down extremely badly. but you're saying that's not fair. judge him on his song, not on his views. >> well, and also i read the whole article and what he said was he was looking forward to waving the union flag and, representing all the positive things about it, and then made the comment that, you know, that it can be divisive. so that was a little comment out of him saying, i want to wave the flag for all the positive things about the united kingdom. so it's kind of a little bit different. i suppose, once you've made the rule, martin, and said, russia can't participate . participate. >> i mean, she whoever the
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contestant for russia was wasn't personally responsible . but if personally responsible. but if for one country you're, you know, punishing them for the actions of your nation, then there is an argument, you know, with the united nations and various people saying that there's this famine and there's this horrendous situation going on in rafah as we speak. there are legitimate concerns about what's happening. you know, is that not relevant at all, would you say, or do you think those people instead should actually boycott, take themselves out rather than make the contestants from israel suffer? >> what i would say to that is thatis >> what i would say to that is that is that russia specifically and deliberately set out to invade ukraine, whereas israel find itself on the receiving end of a programme of an invasion from hamas. i think the situations are quite different, but what i'm interested in talking about, nikki, is, do you think the public sympathy now might swing behind? >> yeah, you've got a theory. >> yeah, you've got a theory. >> israeli entering, because i've got a theory. they weren't expected to make the final because of the politics. they have made the final. she went out and gave the performance of her life. the. the song is fantastic. you must have heard the song many people have said it's possibly one of the best
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songs in the contest this year, which is, you know, it's ironic and what's happened now is that she's gone from a rank outsider to being second favourite at 4 to being second favourite at 4 to 1. i wonder if people might sweep behind this now and think nobody likes to see an artist be bullied, be be targeted like this. might you find ourselves on on the receiving end of a lot of sympathy votes? >> possibly. but then if people are aware of that, the anti bngade are aware of that, the anti brigade will also be voting. so the only winners will be the telephone companies. really. >> were they ireland in that as well. well let's look at some of the talent. some of the people that are getting attention. we were talking earlier in the program about ireland's entry bambie thug now, not our cup of tea, but seems to be the one people are talking about. and, you know, this is somebody who's been doing sort of satanic acts on stage and looks a bit like self—harming to me . self—harming to me. >> i hide behind the sofa when she's on very camp kitsch crazy what eurovision is all about. well, could she win, isn't it? i mean , that's the thing. some of mean, that's the thing. some of these acts are trying so hard to
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be radical and be out there and send a message or shock or whatever it's like, but guys, it's eurovision. it's all been done. yeah yeah. >> and i guess we do like looking at the extravagant acts from, from overseas. and this time it might be the irish who's the favourite though. you got the favourite though. you got the favourite though. you got the favourite down there. yes. >> baby lasagna. i mean no pnzes >> baby lasagna. i mean no prizes for the name. it's horrendous. but that's croatia. yes. yeah i mean, gosh, the name of the song. give us the name of the song. >> rin tin tin din. right. do you think they are deserving possible winners? i mean , possible winners? i mean, everyone wants to go to croatia for a few weeks, don't they , i for a few weeks, don't they, i had a holiday there myself a few years ago , it's not my cup of years ago, it's not my cup of tea, i said weeks ago. if someone can give me a good song with a good singer, i'll vote for it. france it's amazing. and if you're watching about two thirds of the way through, he takes 2 or 3 steps back from the
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microphone and sings the chorus again a cappella. no instruments, and it's just as loud and just as strong, and it's stunning. it makes the hairs on my arms stand up. it's beautiful. no, no computer graphics to interact with. he's just a really good singer with a really good song. and that's what i love about eurovision. i don't want all the gimmicks. i want a good song about the music. >> nicki, nicki french i think that's your cue to make people's hair stand up on the back of their minds . hair stand up on the back of their minds. can you belt something out for us now to really get people? >> don't ruin it, martin. >> don't ruin it, martin. >> three hours sleep. >> three hours sleep. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> well, you don't have to. just a couple. >> okay? do you want me to do a little bit of my eurovision? yeah. don't play that song again . reminding me of how it used to be. you see, stephen sang that the other day, didn't he ? the other day, didn't he? >> that's me. >> that's me. >> but not as well as you. my goodness, you can belt that out up close and personal. you've got some serious gas in there.
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thank you very much. that's the right phrase . welly or what's right phrase. welly or what's the technical term for wim frijns? there we go , foghorn frijns? there we go, foghorn french. that's it from us. have a lovely day, ben. and olivia. up a lovely day, ben. and olivia. up next. >> that was great. >> that was great. >> gas in the tank. i don't know if that's what i meant. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . sponsors of weather on . solar. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you on this beautiful sunny day. for many of us, it's going to be very warm into the afternoon . very warm into the afternoon. however, as temperatures rise, the chance in 1 or 2 spots of a thundery shower. by the time the day comes to a close. but for most people, as we begin saturday, it is sunny out there, some low cloud and mistiness around eastern parts of england that will linger around the north sea coast through the day. otherwise, inland blue skies for many, some patchy cloud developing , but with light winds developing, but with light winds and that strong sunshine, high
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uv levels as well. temperatures widely reaching the low 20s and in places the mid 20s are possible once again, then into the evening as temperatures rise well, the chance of a thundery shower or two across higher parts of central scotland, but for the vast majority it stays dry. and that theme continues overnight a bit more cloud arriving on saturday night and into the start of sunday. but it's going to be once again dry, with clear spells and temperatures dipping to 12 or 13 celsius in many places. temperatures dipping to 12 or 13 celsius in many places . a bright celsius in many places. a bright start then on sunday, but some patchy cloud around . and then as patchy cloud around. and then as temperatures get, higher through the morning, the chance of some thundery showers developing once again more widely this time across western scotland into western england, wales and northern ireland. by the afternoon, where these occur, they're going to be heavy with torrential rain and lightning, but they will be hit and miss. still some warm sunshine away from these . from these. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of
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gb news. away. >> very good morning to you. i'm ben leo, alongside olivia utley . ben leo, alongside olivia utley. >> and this is saturday morning live. >> great to have your company this morning. and we have got an action packed show to get to. >> we do indeed. all of the day's top stories with political commentators. joana jarjue and alex armstrong . alex armstrong. >> and the royal drama continues after the king snubbed a meeting with his son, prince harry in london. the duke is now gallivanting with meghan across nigeria, the 12th most dangerous country in the world for what's being dubbed a fake royal tour and we'll be meeting this week's greatest briton, an incredible man who's on a mission to spread kindness and make the world a better place . better place. >> stay tuned for that.
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and i'm not sure if you guys at home have seen or you olivia, but philip schofield of this morning fame, apparently he's plotting a big tv comeback. he was snapped out and about with declan donnelly over the past couple of nights. elsewhere, wes streeting the shadow labour health secretary. he's done a big interview in the sun this morning saying he's anti—woke. would you believe that changed his tune a little bit. >> i think wes streeting there. >> i think wes streeting there. >> he's he's the guy who said, of course that trans women are women, etcetera , etc. supported women, etcetera, etc. supported black lives matter. tell us what you think about that, about that. plus a big weather weekend, balmy hot weather, still expected today and tomorrow and last night's spectacular for northern light show. >> philip sent us this photo from wakefield. and please do keep sending in your pictures. ben and i were asleep and we are very jealous. so we want to hear from you. send your views and posts by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. >> but before we do anything else, sophia wenzler has all your news headlines

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