topics on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. now, this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's now, this show is all about opinion. it's mine . it's theirs. opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza wright . in a party adviser matthew laza wright. in a few party adviser matthew laza wright . in a few moments party adviser matthew laza wright. in a few moments i'll be mucking the week with comedian john martin. but coming up, my political spotlight , i'll be political spotlight, i'll be speaking with councillor rob mushowe, who's gone from a banana leaf thatched mud hut in uganda to being a rugby coach and a councillor in west london. he'll be here to shine a light on his incredible journey. then the great british debate this hour i'm asking, should rent caps be introduced? labour's shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, has suggested that she should support introducing rental controls in some areas of the country. and my difficult conversation. lots of exciting stuff happening there. cynthia's round will be here. my nigel with megan in nigeria. some people didn't really like them

at all. rada, i feel like she's going to add to the negative list that we already have in nigeria. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler . news with sophia wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon . afternoon. >> it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . in the gb newsroom. >> a conservative mp has accused his local water company of being incompetent after supplies were contaminated by parasites. the number of confirmed cases of crypto spyridium in the brixham area have more than doubled to 46. the mp for totnes says southwest water's response to the outbreak has been inadequate and has put people's health at risk. the firm says it's now cleaning a water tank where the parasites were found . meanwhile, parasites were found. meanwhile, olympian dame kelly holmes has joined protesters today demonstrating about poor water

quality. 37 protests are taking place in places including brighton, falmouth and edinburgh . water companies say they're spending more than £14 billion this year to protect waterways in england and wales. but campaigners emma jackson and emma pattinson are demanding tougher action. >> we want you to do something about the contamination of destroying our riverway, and local governments , national local governments, national governments in safeguarding clean water. shepherd's an open water swim is a body of clean water. it naturally cleanses itself. the river testing that we've done versus the water testing of the lake shows five times over the levels that the environment agency would act as safeguarding . safeguarding. >> in other news, two east london criminals who used a plane to smuggle migrants from northern france to essex have been jailed. the albanian nationals, who were part of a major crime network, arranged at least nine migrant trips in 2016

and 2017. the national crime agency's eight year investigation revealed the two men provided counterfeit documents to migrants, charging £10,000 per person for the trip. they received combined sentences of five years and two months behind bars. the health and social harms caused by alcohol in england cost the taxpayer more than £27 billion a year, according to new estimates. that's a 40% increase since 2003, the institute of alcohol studies says the cost of crime and disorder linked to drinking costs more than £14.5 billion alone on health alcohol related harms cost the nhs just under 5 billion. enough to pay for the salaries of almost half of nurses in england . however, the nurses in england. however, the dnnks nurses in england. however, the drinks industry says the data doesn't consider the £46 billion in direct economic benefits to the uk. almost 80 people over the uk. almost 80 people over the age of 65 are dying each day in england, while still waiting to receive social care, new

figures have suggested. charities and campaigners are calling on politicians to address the problem , accusing address the problem, accusing the government of a lack of investment. however the department for health and social care says up to £86 billion has been made available in additional funding over two years. pro—palestinian protesters are holding a demonstration in central london against the conflict in gaza. there are worries about a lack of aid there , despite a new of aid there, despite a new american built floating pier where supplies can be shipped in. but campaigners say it's not enough. in. but campaigners say it's not enough . meanwhile, israeli enough. meanwhile, israeli troops say they've destroyed 70 militant targets in its latest operations in rafah and jabalia, the largest refugee camp in the region. it comes after the bodies of three israeli hostages were recovered from gaza on friday. israel says it believes 100 hostages are still alive there. the condition of slovakia's prime minister has been described as stable but serious. after he was shot five

times at point blank range. 59 year old robert fico underwent another two hours of surgery yesterday. the man accused of attempting to assassinate him on wednesday has appeared in court, with officials suggesting the attack was politically motivated. now in the us , a man motivated. now in the us, a man has been sentenced to 30 years in prison for trying to kidnap former speaker of the house nancy pelosi. david depape also used a hammer to beat her husband, who's in his 80s, causing serious head injuries. the court in san francisco heard the 44 year old was caught up in conspiracy theories and believed news outlets repeatedly lied about donald trump and tyson fury says boxing fans should expect fireworks when he takes on oleksandr usyk tonight. as they finally go head to head to become the undisputed world heavyweight boxing champion. both fighters, undefeated at professional level, had to be separated by security at an eventful weigh in last night.

fury's final interview before the showdown had so many expletives. it's not broadcastable . around 3000 broadcastable. around 3000 british fight fans have travelled to saudi arabia for tonight's clash . and for the tonight's clash. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . nana. back to. nana. >> thank you. so fair good afternoon. just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, onune channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time to mark the week. and what what a busy one it's been. rishi launched what felt like the start of his election campaign with the charisma speech. i'm sure he was saying all the right things, but many had just stopped listening despite having 14 years with nothing to do but think about the future. >> labour have almost nothing to say about it. no plans for our

border, no plans for our energy security, no plans for our economy either. >> and no principles either. keir starmer has gone from embracing jeremy corbyn to natalie pinnell , all in the natalie pinnell, all in the cynical pursuit of power at any price. >> actually, that's true . that >> actually, that's true. that was the best bit, but what was he talking about? meanwhile labour leader sir keir starmer launched his six pledges. >> so here we are. one card, six steps in your hand . steps in your hand. >> a plan to change the country. this is a message that we can take to every doorstep across the country, every doorstep across the country and make that argument . decline is not argument. decline is not inevitable. politics can make difference. >> britain will have a better future , and you can choose it future, and you can choose it with labour.

>> great jeremy hunt had his say after costing out some of those pledges. apparently, according to him, labour's plans would leave a £38 billion hole. >> it comes to labour policies on jobs , welfare reform and tax. on jobs, welfare reform and tax. >> the difference if they are elected, will be profound and damaging for every family in the country . country. >> we had pathetic pro—palestine protesters who we can only assume were students, their faces hidden, camping outside cambridge university, giving suella braverman the silent treatment . treatment. >> well, hello, i'm just wondering if you'd like to have any kind of discussion at all with suella today . with suella today. >> hi, i'm suella i'm keen to find out your views and what you're protesting about . you're protesting about. >> nothing at all. >> nothing at all. >> nothing at all. >> no interested in why you're covering your faces . is it a covering your faces. is it a covid or a health measure ? covid or a health measure? >> pretty childish really, all of that. i mean, we can only assume that these people are giving the silent treatment. were students the great minds

that will be running this country? seriously grow up people. things didn't get any better in the studio when one of them. i don't even think she was a student. fiona i think it was, was invited to talk directly to suella, well, so. so you're saying your encampment is nothing to do with the events of october the 7th or israel's response to october the 7th? is thatis response to october the 7th? is that is that what you're saying is totally detached to october 7 and israel's response, the only thing that is detached, i would say, is actually your views and your approach to this whole situation and the whole the tory government, the people, the student protesters are very attached to what is happening in palestine , and they are doing palestine, and they are doing what they can in order to stop universal parties who provide, i think, £450 million to the israeli state, to the israeli military, rather than investing in their own education and what they should be putting money into . into. >> you are the one and your government is completely out of touch with what actually the

majority of people in britain think about what's happening. the majority of people in britain do not support what israel is doing. >> hang on a minute. i think she was saying that because money gets sent to israel, the students here don't get, i don't know. i've lost it and then feedback from actual nigerians on harry and meghan's faux royal toun on harry and meghan's faux royal tour. meghan's claim to be 43% nigerian. >> this is the nigerian action, let me start with you. >> are you proud ? proud 43% >> are you proud? proud 43% nigeria new entry meghan the duchess of sussex i don't know if i have to be proud if that's the no. i don't need to be proud. rather i feel like she's going to add to the negative list that we already have in nigeria. >> it's been a mucky old week . >> it's been a mucky old week. so coming up, comedian john

martin will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week at 320. in my roundtable discussion, we'll talk water, water everywhere . talk water, water everywhere. not a drop to drink unless you fancy the runs, that's what's happening in devon. of course. contamination is britain becoming a third world country. and joining me to shine a light in the political hot seat today, councillor rodney shisho, who's gone from a banana leaf thatched mud hut in uganda to being a teacher, a rugby coach and a councillor in west london, he's in the political hot seat at 345. that's coming up. tell me your thoughts on everything we're discussing. gbnews.com forward slash uk . right. so forward slash uk. right. so joining me is comedian john martin to mock the week. right. so let's see what was the first thing we talked about. >> can i just say before we start i'm a liverpool football supporter. oh yeah . and it's supporter. oh yeah. and it's a very sad time for us. of course this weekend the clocks go back. oh we're losing our manager

jurgen klopp, he retires if you like . like. >> clocks and clocks go back. >> clocks and clocks go back. >> yeah. do they. yeah they do actually very sad. so we had jurgen klopp i'm just glad we're not getting his brother to replace him. clippity clop . replace him. clippity clop. that's the big thing for me. >> so yeah, sad time for my football team, sad time for the country . country. >> you know, i saw there was parasites in the water. >> oh, i don't know. >> oh, i don't know. >> i don't know if they mean, like, actual bugs or whether they were the parasites were board of directors of the water company. >> very good. >> very good. >> yeah. so, but it has been a strange time. rishi sunak's wealth or his family wealth has gone up 120 million. you know, i love to see someone get on in life, but this is a man who, when he was chancellor of the exchequer, stopped small businesses, freelancers, people in my beloved entertainment business got absolutely nothing. he made the decision. he was chancellor during covid. during

covid, small businesses were totally excluded and i just think it's an absolute disgrace, i really do, it actually makes me sick. but what did he think that people would live on? >> because that sort of gets me. i think perhaps because he's got such untold wealth that he he kind of doesn't touch. maybe he's, you know, but then a lot of them are keir starmer he did his speech now, he had his sleeves rolled up like, what's his face, tony blair they reckon one day keir starmer will be prime minister. >> and i think one day we'll be long enough, to be honest . but i long enough, to be honest. but i wouldn't vote for any of them. we got the liberal democrats, their leader said. we are the third party. i thought, god, the other two must be fired and theft. >> do you know what, man? >> do you know what, man? >> when the council elections were on that, someone knocked on our door. he said to me, ukip here. i said, well, i live here. so i just wouldn't i just don't see any of them being worthy of my vote, i really don't. >> it is a bit it's a sad time.

>> you know, you you mentioned earlier about have we become a third world country. you know, you, you drive down the roads, there's potholes everywhere. we used to say we drive on the left. now we drive on what's left. now we drive on what's left . it's unbelievable what's left. it's unbelievable what's go to the airports in britain are terrible. manchester airport. i fly out of it a lot. it's absolutely disgraceful . all it's absolutely disgraceful. all these institutions and business is absolutely almost like falling apart at the seams . falling apart at the seams. >> well it is, i mean we've got an nhs falling apart. i mean. absolutely keir had his six pledges or six things he's going to do. one of them to rob private schools and add by charging them vat so they can pay charging them vat so they can pay for the public schools . it pay for the public schools. it doesn't even make sense. >> no. but don't i mean, forgive me. i'm not an expert on a private school. i went to a comprehensive school in in bootle, near liverpool and bootle's not an affluent area. i'm not proud of it or ashamed of it. you know, it's a i remember taking my driving test

in bootle when i lived. fella said to me, pull over when you think it's safe to do so. i had to drive 60 miles. but, you know, we had nothing. no one had anything. so don't some of these private schools have like a charity status? >> a lot of them do. >> a lot of them do. >> but it's very unfair that. >> but it's very unfair that. >> yeah, but a lot of them, a lot of them give and do things in the community. >> and so i'm sure they do my school a comprehensive did things, but they're not all very like. >> so there are the top end and then there's people in the middle and they're not really they're not super wealthy, are they? so why should you destroy one thing to feed another? it won't work. >> destroy? but how? there should be a situation. there should be a situation. there should be a level playing field. why shouldn't every kid get the opportunity? >> well, because life isn't level. i mean, that's nonsense. no it's not. it's like one of those things. >> right? >> right? >> well, yeah, but you can't mean it's right. but you cannot make something a level playing field. >> you can try and flatten the curves a bit, but you don't do it by depriving those who, because the assumption is that those on the higher playing field have got there because they've got more, and that's not really the case.

>> there are lots of scholarships. there's lots of people with special needs at these schools. i understand that nobody's on the same level, but have a look at schools in areas where i'm from, merseyside and places like that. >> these, you know, the roofs are letting in and there's yeah, but that's bad policy. >> they should make them all good. they should raise them up to a standard. absolutely. rather than taking down the ones that are working now. >> i just think everyone should have a fair crack. i agree, i agree, but i don't think that i, you know, people who have money should be able to send people to private schools or people who are struggling to send their kids should also be able to do that. >> and but the state system should also be working and it just isn't. what about isn't it just isn't. what about isn't it just isn't. what about isn't it just isn't , is it? and what just isn't, is it? and what about the pro—palestinian protesters? the marchers? i don't know whether you saw what happened on patrick christys show. they were silent. >> i've been watching this, you know, and again, i'm a comedian. i don't necessarily understand, you know, my i looked at the situation in the middle east and l, situation in the middle east and i, i originally thought, you know, the middle east has all the oil. well, how come we have the oil. well, how come we have the dipsticks in parliament, where's the hostages ? that's the where's the hostages? that's the

you know, people aren't concentrating on the hostages . concentrating on the hostages. free the hostages. >> yeah. stop firing the rockets. free the hostages, and then we can all stop. ask for a ceasefire. yeah, and meghan and harry, let's finish on them on in nigeria . in nigeria. >> i feel a bit sorry for harry. i really do. i'm not. you know, he's. he was part of the royal family. i know he made his bed so lie—in . you know, the royal so lie—in. you know, the royal family is very much thinned down now and i think he'd be if they brought him back. whether people would accept him or don't know, but he'd be an asset and he'd be an advert for the country. i'm sure he would. >> but he hates us, so that's not going to happen. >> i don't think he hates me. >> i don't think he hates me. >> he does anything. he hates me. >> i think many people hate me. >> i think many people hate me. >> i think any anything that represents this country, i don't think he likes very much. wow. well, you've seen what he's saying and what he's doing the way he's behaving. you wouldn't want to destroy your country. and the things that made you great. but these people don't really care. >> well, you look at, you know, i'm sure our beloved prime minister, your beloved prime minister. i'm sure he'll end up in america pretty soon. well you

know, then he loses the election. i know he said he's going to stay on as mp. >> it's not a foregone conclusion that they'll lose. although it's suspected they will. it is john martin, thank you very much. lovely to see you. that is the brilliant john martin right now. stay tuned because it's the great british giveaway. your chance to win £20,000 in cash in time for the summer. what would you spend that cash on a dream holiday? get the garden done, or perhaps treat the family well. this is your chance to take part. and here's how. >> it's the biggest cash prize we've given away to date. an incredible £20,000 that you could use however you like . and could use however you like. and because it's totally tax free, every single penny will be in your bank account to do whatever your bank account to do whatever you like with £20,000 in tax free cash, really could be yours this summer. hurry, you've got to be in it to win it for another chance to win £20,000 in tax free cash. text win to 63232. text cost £2 plus one standard network rate message or

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3:00. this is gp news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua and it's time for my round table discussion. the number of confirmed cases of water borne disease caused by microscopic parasites has more than doubled. whilst more than 100 further people have been reported with similar symptoms of diarrhoea . similar symptoms of diarrhoea. so about 16,000 households and businesses in the wrexham area of devon have been told not to use their tap water for drinking water without boiling and cooling it first. so how bad is this parasite, and does this ongoing incident show the need for nationalisation of water? well, joining me now for the roundtable discussion is doctor renee hoenderkamp gp and medical writer. and also i'm joined by the former adviser to the bank of england and uk treasury roger gewolb. okay. roger, i'm going to start with you and just tell me what has gone on with this water business. well it all began back in 1989 when the water companies were privatised and they were privatised at an

undervalue. >> £6 billion was lost to taxpayers in an instant when they were privatised , and the they were privatised, and the investors in the companies made a 40% return on the first day, so that was deliberate undervaluing of something so that the people investing could make money from it. they made 40% in a day. lord mucky muck and baroness poo poo, who were given peerages to reward them for this, should be stripped of their titles. with all that's gone on now , who is lord mucky gone on now, who is lord mucky muck? lord mucky muck is that actually a lord mucky muck? >> no, no, you're making it up. yeah i'll write them down. i'm going to speak to them about that. but the people who did those privatisations for the government were either incredibly stupid and ignorant or or crooked, in my personal opinion. >> let me say , because to do a >> let me say, because to do a deal like that where investors make 40% in 24 hours, as alleged, without doing anything since then, the water companies have paid £74 billion to their

shareholders rather than investing in infrastructure, there has been the experts allege, no guidelines or supervision. there's nothing wrong with privatisations that would be put in in place of a normal privatisation, which aren't there, and we have been crooked and we're the ones paying crooked and we're the ones paying the bill now. the you know, what has hit the fan, or rather the water, and we're going to have to pay for it. >> so the effluent has hit the fan. doctor renee and what is this disease? >> so what's it is? >> so what's it is? >> a bacteria that's always around . it's not something around. it's not something that's not here, but it doesn't usually affect us too much, we can getit usually affect us too much, we can get it by drinking from swimming pools or drinking water. although usually our drinking water shouldn't be infected . we can also get it infected. we can also get it from droplets. people can actually cough it out so it has actually cough it out so it has a respiratory angle as well. it can give you horrible diarrhoea, terrible tummy pains, fever make you really watery diary which makes you weak. and in people who are unwell , underweight who are unwell, underweight young babies, old people, the immunocompromised , it can

immunocompromised, it can actually make them seriously ill and can be fatal . there was once and can be fatal. there was once and can be fatal. there was once an outbreak, i think, in spain, where 300,000 people got it and 100 people died. so it can be serious. most people will recover, it will be passed out in their faeces for about five weeks. so oh wow. grumble on for a little while . a little while. >> five weeks. is it still infectious then? is it? it's been passed. it depends. >> when they've got it and how long they're passing it for. >> but this could rumble for a while and obviously it can also transmit person to person because once somebody is infected, if they're coughing or coughing onto things that people touch, children if they're sharing toys and saliva can pass it on. so it's a really horrible disease. and in a first world country, we should not expect for our water to be contaminated with something. >> as vile as this. >> as vile as this. >> once you've had it once, do you have an immunity to it again? you can get it again. >> and for some people, when they first get it, especially if they're immunocompromised, they can recover and then find that they're reinfected, that they get it back again. so it's a horrible disease and not one we should experience. but just

going to roger's point, should experience. but just going to roger's point , the going to roger's point, the other problem with the privatisation of water is it was a monopoly . there was no a monopoly. there was no competition, so there was no incentive for them to fix the pipes or sort this kind of thing out because you couldn't say, i've had enough of you, mr water company. i'm going to your neighbour. that's a very important point. >> these companies that invested were allowed to make higher returns than venture capital, and other companies that invest in risky investments, even though these are controlled monopolies with virtually without risk, as you say. >> well, let me bring in environmental scientist and ecologist professor ian rotherham, professor rotherham, what's your view on the situation that has happened? because obviously there's faeces in the water which is clearly caused this situation . what's caused this situation. what's your thoughts on how the water companies are dealing with it and how did that stuff get in there in the first place? >> i think i agree absolutely with what the previous speakers have said. and we're dealing with a long term lack of investment in infrastructure , a

investment in infrastructure, a lack of capital investment and almost, if you pardon the pun, a perfect storm. >> we've got increasing urbanisation , we've got urbanisation, we've got inadequate infrastructure that's often inadequate. it's, antiquated . antiquated. >> so the sewerage system is growing beyond the capacity of the infrastructure to deal with it. there's not been the investment that's required . and investment that's required. and we're also getting extreme weather so that last year had a huge amount of water dumped into the system . and we still have the system. and we still have this idea that we have storm water overflow. so the sewerage system is not sufficient. >> and it's in times of storm, it's acceptable to dump raw sewage through stormwater overflows into the rivers and ultimately into the sea. it's pretty horrible. i've got a map here of, the sewage map from the rivers trust. and if you look at that , it's scary. it's horrible. that, it's scary. it's horrible. it shows you exactly what's

going in over the last year where they and it's horrible stuff. >> now it seems to me and i, you know, i have a personal view on this. >> it isn't necessarily the privatisation as such, except as we've already heard, it's not really privatisation because there's no competition. it was undervalued. >> but what we're also doing through that, the idea and i was involved in advising our local authority in sheffield back in the 1980s, 1990s on these things and water privatisation was very, very contentious . but the very, very contentious. but the idea was it would bring in new investment and it's done the opposite. it's sucked our money, our public money out to, distant remote shareholders and executives who, frankly, are being rewarded for failing. >> well , we being rewarded for failing. >> well, we clean them up. we're paying >> well, we clean them up. we're paying them your lines a little bit tricky at the moment, but we did get your point, professor. thank you so much for your thoughts. that's professor ian

rotherham. he's an environmental scientist and ecologist. i think he quite nicely laid out that didn't he. what the problem is there and the compounding factors that have made the situation as it is. well the bottom line is should these people should water companies if there's no competition they cannot be competition in this should they be allowed to be privatised? >> yeah. there's nothing wrong with privatisation . with privatisation. >> should they be allowed to water companies specifically? i agree absolutely . agree absolutely. >> there's nothing wrong with privatisations. if i were in charge, i used to be a merchant banker in the city. if i were in charge of the privatisation, i would make a privatisation that had controls and things that would make it run perfectly well. >> there's no competition. so what? >> well, well that means that means they don't get a really full price. that means they pay perhaps more than others because they've got a guaranteed income flow that is pretty much risk free. >> if i don't like the broadband that sky is delivering to me, i cancel my contract and i go to virgin or bt or whoever else . i virgin or bt or whoever else. i can't do that with thames water. i've got no choice. >> okay. and so your nationalise

it instead. and you have a bunch of absolutely loony politicians like the nincompoops in every party running this country at the moment . party running this country at the moment. how do you get rid of them? >> well, that's but that's not necessarily true. you can get people who know what they're doing to run the company. in fact, you could potentially keep those. but why can't you? >> yeah, like the government got people to run the post office. yeah. >> but the bottom line is there's not a profit incentive. there's nobody's going to take money. and the investment has to happen. >> but nana there's nothing wrong with the profit incentive. >> i mean, if you well, there is one. it's water because that's what happened. >> they gave this country over to be run by business people. if they would take the job, we wouldn't be where we are today, i promise you. what's wrong with those privatisations was that they were done incompetently or dishonestly, in my personal view. and if they were done right, like the many, many more privatisations around the world that have worked wonderfully to improve. i mean, there were even i >> -- >> aren't we the only country, though, that have our water not run by, not owned by the public? i think we're one of the we're one of the only. and why do you

think that is, simply because of politics? probably. certainly not commercial reasons. i would have no problem with an honourable company taking over and running the water supply with the right restrictions on them, i think we'd do better. >> renee final word to you've got about 30s. >> i would like to know that every single patient i have seen, i don't have to consider whether or not the water that's coming out of their tap at home has made them sick. >> i think that is a basic right of people living in a civilised country, and that's not where we are now. are how. >> are now. >> all right. thank you very much. doctor renee hoenderkamp. and also doctor roger gewolb, thank you for your thoughts. renee. we'll be back with the saturday five later and roger will be back in the next hour. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio coming up at just before, just after four minute nana niggle about meghan markle and how her trip with harry really went down in the nigerian community. but first, here's the latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> gnaana. thank you. it's 333. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb

news room. a devon mp has said the regional water suppliers response to a water borne parasite outbreak has been contemptible and just generally incompetent. there are now 46 confirmed cases of the diarrhoea inducing cryptosporidium bug in the brixham area, southwest water says it's working to resolve the issue and is now cleaning a water tank where the parasites were found . meanwhile, parasites were found. meanwhile, people are hitting the water on the paddle boards around the uk to raise awareness of sewage in our waters . it's been to raise awareness of sewage in our waters. it's been organised by surfers against sewage, who are demanding tougher action against water companies which pollute rivers and seas. 30 demonstrations are being held in places including brighton, scarborough and edinburgh . scarborough and edinburgh. olympian and keen paddle boarder dame kelly holmes is one of the famous faces who joined the demonstrations . pro—palestinian demonstrations. pro—palestinian protesters are holding a demonstration in central london against the conflict in gaza. it comes as israel's prime minister

is promising to return all hostages, living or dead, after the bodies of three people were recovered in gaza. meanwhile the israeli defence forces says it's been battling more fighters overnight in rafah and jabalia, the largest refugee camp in the region . and if you didn't see region. and if you didn't see the northern lights last weekend, well , they're due to weekend, well, they're due to return to the uk skies in around a fortnight . we typically see a fortnight. we typically see the bands of pink and green light when solar flares on the surface of the sun are really active. the huge sunspot cluster that hurled energy and gas towards earth last weekend will rotate back towards us in two weeks time, paving the way for more geomagnetic storms and displays of the natural wonder. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news common alerts. now it's back to . nana.

it's back to. nana. >> thank you sophia. still to come, councillor ramos will be in the political hot seat to shine a light on his incredible journey in my political spotlight. but next performer and mystifier uri geller will join me to discuss the latest from israel . after the bodies of from israel. after the bodies of three hostages were recovered by the israeli army. do not go anywhere

good afternoon. welcome on board. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online, and on digital radio. you can also download the gb news app. check out all the programmes. it's completely free, but it's now time to get the latest from israel. israeli forces rescued the bodies of three hostages from the gaza strip, announcing that they were killed by hamas at the nova music festival , i at the nova music festival, i mean, this is awful, isn't it, the bring them home now campaign posted on social media that they

were killed while they were dancing and celebrating life and the return of their bodies is a painful and stark reminder that we must swiftly bring back all of our brothers and sisters from their cruel captivity, the living to rehabilitation , and living to rehabilitation, and also the murder to a proper burial. well joining me now is performer and mr uri geller. uri, thank you very much for joining us. if you could just give us an update, that would be great. okay. >> nana, as you said yesterday , >> nana, as you said yesterday, we heard the very tragic news here in israel that the bodies of three israeli hostages have been found in gaza. >> now, look , let me tell you >> now, look, let me tell you their names. shani louk shani louk , amit buskila and itzik louk, amit buskila and itzik galanter . louk, amit buskila and itzik galanter. look, shani, by the way, was just 23 years old, a beautiful young woman in her prime of life. these three innocent people were, as you said, were the novel music festival when hamas attacked. now not only were they brutally

killed , but their bodies were killed, but their bodies were dragged and taken back to gaza. nanai dragged and taken back to gaza. nana i ask you, what kind of monsters do this? this is a reminder to everyone of the depth of evil, of the terrorists who israel is fighting . i also who israel is fighting. i also want to remind all your viewers that there is still about 130 hostages got , if they're still hostages got, if they're still alive, being held by hamas in gaza. these are men, women and children. none are children. children. the women are being abused in the most horrific ways. we know that for a fact from the hostages who have been released now , let me ask you and released now, let me ask you and all your viewers why doesn't hamas just let the hostages go? why are they holding them hostage? taking is an international crime. it is barbaric . just let them go and barbaric. just let them go and their war will stop immediately.

ihave their war will stop immediately. i have to show you something else . this is unbelievable. but else. this is unbelievable. but look, there are two more things i want to say about this in london today. your capital city. there is another hate march. this is the 32nd week where london has been hijacked by hamas sympathisers. let's call them what they are. hamas sympathisers . nana have you ever sympathisers. nana have you ever seen a single placard calling for the release of the hostages? no. have you ever seen a single placard calling on hamas to accept the ceasefire? no now, do you know what this is? unbelievable. ordinary british people. and you better believe it. they don't want these marches anymore. and you agree with me? now i can feel it. you know how we know? i'll tell you how we know . this know how we know? i'll tell you how we know. this is know how we know? i'll tell you how we know . this is crazy. last how we know. this is crazy. last week was eurovision and the uk pubuc week was eurovision and the uk public vote gave israel the maximum number of points. this was a resounding rejection of

all these hate marches. it was the best signal which britain could have sent. it was just amazing. and finally, just one more thing. two days ago, israel was back at the international court of justice because south africa again has accused israel of genocide in gaza. nana this is a pantomime. the war has been going on for seven months. do you know why ? it is because you know why? it is because israel is trying so hard to avoid civilian casualties. exactly the opposite of genocide . if israel wanted to destroy gaza, it would have done it in seven hours, not in seven months. now, this is unbelievable. look at this tunnel. this is like the motorway . this tunnel. they motorway. this tunnel. they found 50 of these tunnels between egypt and rafah, egypt and rafah. this is my opinion. eqypt and rafah. this is my opinion. egyptis and rafah. this is my opinion. egypt is making billions on arms smuggling billions. you can move tanksin smuggling billions. you can move

tanks in these tunnels. anyhow, ihope tanks in these tunnels. anyhow, i hope that next time nana, next time we speak, next week, i hope the hostages will be released. the war will be over and there will be peace for israel and for palestinians. will be peace for israel and for palestinians . and we can all palestinians. and we can all start building a better future for everyone. >> i hope so, thank you so much. ihope >> i hope so, thank you so much. i hope so , thank you so much. i hope so, thank you so much. and also, but i'm not sure whether we have ever since that these actual tunnels are being used for arms to, to, to egypt, but also the other thing is a lot of people on those protests would argue that they are protesting for peace. there's no really good to talk to you as even really good to talk to you as ever. appreciate speaking to you as ever. so good. thank you very much. that is uri geller. those are his views on the whole situation. of course, he's there, live in tel aviv. but as i said, a lot of people on those hate marches would say that they are looking for peace and they're actually protesting because of the mass death that's happening in gaza. but what are your thoughts? gb news gb views @gbnews. com next, councillor robichaud will be in the political hot seat to shine a light on his

well, if you just join me. where have you been? this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time for this week's political spotlight. and joining me to shine a light is councillor ron mushowe. he's gone from a banana leaf thatch mud hut in uganda to being a teacher, a rugby coach and a councillor in west london. ron, thank you for joining councillor in west london. ron, thank you forjoining me. so thank you for joining me. so thank you for joining me. so thank you for joining me. so thank you so much. talk to me. how did you talk to me about your journey from uganda? >> well, i mean, it's, look back now 42 years ago, i grew up in a small village. >> you're 42. >> you're 42. >> 42? yes. >> 42? yes. >> you look young. you look. you look about 22. >> no, no, no, i, i guess i dnnk >> no, no, no, i, i guess i drink a lot of water, but no, not the water in devon. >> no, no, the water of south—west london. >> and, you know, i was born in a village called bududa in uganda. and through tragic

circumstances, i was sent by my father, who i didn't know at the time, to come to live with him here in london. and it took a while to get from uganda to going through kenya , back to going through kenya, back to uganda, just to get the visa process sorted out. and then eventually i arrived here in 1993, as a 12 year old. and i never looked back . never looked back. >> do you remember what your first memories were when you came here? like when you got out of the airport? what was the first thing you thought? >> lights. that was the first thing is a huge lights everywhere there. i mean, i'm used to the lights we had in our village were starlight and moonlight and paraffin lamps and. and i was amazed by the amount of lights that were there, especially that tunnel at terminal two going through there. oh, really, you know, i was mesmerised. and i remember the day i arrived because as soon as i got into the house, the, the, my dad put a tv on and it was the world championships.

linford christie becoming a world champion, 100m, i think it was gothenburg . so i remember was gothenburg. so i remember that very, very well. >> wow, that's quite a vivid memory. and when you came to this country , where did you go this country, where did you go to school? you must have gone to school somewhere. and what was it like? did you actually enjoy being in the uk and how did it compare to you? >> yeah, i really did. you know, when you're young, you take everything on, on board, you know, i mean, i went through some real tragic, traumatising experiences as, as a young boy in my village in uganda. >> can you, can you talk about any of those things? what happened? yes. >> well, yes, i the probably the two things happened. the two big things happened all at the same time. but remember , in the time. but remember, in the 19805, time. but remember, in the 1980s, uganda was just coming through the end of the civil war. and, and my dad was actually involved in some of those skirmishes. he was with milton obote getting rid of idi amin, so we knew violence in our villages growing up, and we could hear gunshots , you know, could hear gunshots, you know, we're in the mountains, we could hear ricochets. and, you know,

of fighting going on between the men in those villages, hiding away in the last skirmishes of the war of the civil war , so the war of the civil war, so that violence wasn't new to me in that sense. but what happened was , my grandfather was was, my grandfather was unfortunately attacked and murdered in cold blood by four men wielding machetes. oh, no. and i was a witness , and the one and i was a witness, and the one of the surviving people there , of the surviving people there, two of us survived, my aunt and l, two of us survived, my aunt and i, and it was that trauma that made my father act and call for me to come and have a new life with him here in london. and so. yeah. so when, you know, school for me was a fresh, a breath of fresh air, here i am. i'm mingling with people of different cultures from asian communities, southeast asia . communities, southeast asia. we've got white community. it was it was a mixture of different cultures. and i really loved it, i didn't know any english, by the way. i was

learning the language because i had very , very limited formal had very, very limited formal education in uganda . so i was education in uganda. so i was learning the language, learning my way around the, you know, the culture of this country and i found sports. so sports was really my, my kind of my ticket out of, out of the, the kind of the quagmire of things that were going on in my head. and i thought, and even to this day, i feel that sports is a real good, antithesis to anything else that you, that you, that you want to pursue. so sports just calms you down. that's true. >> actually, when i started school, there weren't any black people there at all, apart from my oldest brother, who everyone really liked and they chased me in the playground because they were teasing me and calling me names, calling me names. and they said, well, give me one thing that you can do better. and i said, i can run. and since then i've ran and i became all then i've ran and i became all the captains and all the sports, and they all wanted me on their team and is the perfect vehicle for meritocracy, you know, i yes, i couldn't speak the language. >> i couldn't do my maths, i couldn't do my english, but hey, i could play football and i

could play rugby. >> it's a language, isn't it, that everybody understands this language, that everyone understands. >> and it's the diplomatic language that i wish we use more of in this country. >> it's true, it's true. so how did you come to be a politician? because that's where we are now. yes. >> so the story thickens, because within two years of arriving to this country, i was fostered, unfortunately , things fostered, unfortunately, things didn't work out with my dad and stepmother , in the home. and my stepmother, in the home. and my school spotted this and saw the patterns of behaviour that were that were not quite right. they called the police, and i was taken away from, living with my stepmom and my dad. so i was fostered for, between from the age of 14 up until i was 22, 23 and my foster parents, i had six in total, the second last one was sherita thomas, who might be watching this. she lives in brighton, and my last and most loving foster parents are celine and donoso, who are also actually watching this, that's . actually watching this, that's. and they looked after me for eight years, and in fact, they

still look after me now. i see they really are my mums and dads. >> so we've got about a minute left. i want to hear, how did you get into politics? what was the. >> so they they got me. they saw that i was watching you know, back in 97. i was watching tony blair's new labour coming in and, and they said, oh ron, you must be quite interested in, in this sort of thing. i said, well, yes, i am interested. however it wasn't the labour party i was interested in. it was just the process of politics in general. and in 2005, i made a splash and joined the conservative party and i've been a member of the party ever since, and i got first elected in 2018. >> so you've been councillor, have you been reselected? >> yes, i won my reselection re—election in 2022, but unfortunately i just recently contested for the london assembly seat in south—west london, but that lost to the liberal democrats. >> well, listen, ron mashiho, you're a very interesting character. it's not long enough. we're going to bring you back. you have to come back. we have to talk more. i look forward to it. yeah. that is the fabulous ron mushowe. he's a councillor in west london, also a rugby

coach and a teacher. well, if you just join me , welcome on you just join me, welcome on board. stay tuned. because on the way, my amazing panel lizzie cundy and matthew lazo. but next up my nana nicole on miguel markle and nigeria's reaction to her recent visit. but first, let's get an update with your . weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. sunny spells for some but heavy showers, especially in the south where they could turn thundery . looking at the thundery. looking at the pressure pattern, we've got higher pressure out towards the west, but notice the isobars really spread out, indicating light winds. so across parts of wales and the south—west of england, we have got a weather warning in force for thunderstorms and slow moving showers. they'll gradually ease through the night elsewhere, turning largely dry. but we'll

start to see low cloud once more come in to northern parts and also across the east, holding up with temperatures around 10 or 11 degrees but feeling cooler in any clear spells, especially rural spots in the west . so to rural spots in the west. so to start sunday morning, quite a murky start for some of us with low cloud, mist and fog, especially across parts of the midlands, east anglia and the southeast to start sunday morning with a few showers, maybe clipping cornwall. elsewhere further west. lots of bright sunshine to start sunday, but across parts of scotland, especially across eastern areas , especially across eastern areas, once again we're going to hold once again we're going to hold on to a lot of low cloud mist and fog with some light rain and drizzle across parts of orkney and shetland, so through sunday morning we should see that low cloud mist and fog gradually breaking up through the later half of the morning to leave many places with plenty of sunshine on offer . we'll hold on sunshine on offer. we'll hold on to cloudier conditions for parts of scotland and also down the north—east of england coast.

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panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today, cancelled. so joining me today, it is broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza will coming up in nana niggle on meghan and harry. what did nigeria really think of them? did they love them? that i feel like she's going to add to the negative list that we already have in nigeria . for already have in nigeria. for this week's difficult conversations , i'll be joined by conversations, i'll be joined by businesswoman and award winning cake designer cynthia stroud , cake designer cynthia stroud, who will be telling us how she became the success that she is today despite having to go it alone. and then in clickbait, what happened when the former home secretary tried to engage with girls and protesters? >> i'm suella. i'm keen to find out your views and what you're protesting about . protesting about. >> exactly that all will be

revealed. you won't want to miss that. but before we get, we do that, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler. >> thank you. nana. good afternoon . it's 4:01. i'm sophia afternoon. it's 4:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . wenzler in the gb newsroom. southwest water has today reduced the boil water notice in the brixham area. following all clear test results . it's after clear test results. it's after water supplies were contaminated by parasites . as the number of by parasites. as the number of confirmed cases of cryptosporidium in the brixham area is now 46. but the water company has confirmed it is now safe for around 14,500 households in the alston supply area to use their tap water as normal, but they're still advising around 2500 properties in hillhead. upper parts of brixham and kingswear to continue to boil their drinking water before consuming it . water before consuming it. meanwhile, olympian dame kelly holmes has joined protesters today demonstrating about poor water quality. 37 protests are

taking place in places including brighton, falmouth and edinburgh. water companies say they're spending more than £14 billion this year to protect waterways in england and wales , waterways in england and wales, but campaigners emma jackson and emma pattinson are demanding tougher action. >> we want you to do something about the contamination of destroying our riverway and local governments, national governments in safeguarding clean water, shepherds and open water. swim is a body of clean water. swim is a body of clean water. it naturally cleanses itself. the river testing that we've done versus the water testing of the lake shows five times over the levels that the environment agency would act as safeguarding. >> in other news, two east london criminals who used a plane to smuggle migrants from northern france to essex have been jailed. the albanian nationals, who are part of a major crime network, arranged at least nine migrant trips in 2016

and 2017. the national crime agency's eight year investigation revealed. the two men provided counterfeit documents to migrants, charging £10,000 per person for the trip. they've received combined sentences of five years and two months behind bars. the health and social harms caused by alcohol in england cost the taxpayer more than £27 billion a yean taxpayer more than £27 billion a year, according to new estimates. that's a 40% increase since 2003, the institute of alcohol studies says the cost of crime and disorder linked to drinking costs more than £14.5 billion alone on health alcohol related harm cost the nhs just under 5 billion, enough to pay for the salaries of almost half of nurses in england. however, the drinks industry says the data doesn't consider the £46 billion in direct economic benefits to the uk. almost 80 people over the age of 65 are dying each day in england, while still waiting to receive social care. that's according to new

figures, charities and campaigners are calling on politicians to address the problem, accusing the government of a lack of investment. however, the department for health and social care says up to £86 billion has been made available in additional funding over two years now. pro—palestinian protesters are holding a demonstration in central london against the conflict in gaza. there are worries of a lack of aid there, despite a new american built floating pier where supplies can be shipped in. but campaigners say it's not enough. meanwhile, israeli troops say they've destroyed 70 militant targets in its latest operation in rafah and jabalia, the largest refugee camp in the region . it comes camp in the region. it comes after the bodies of three israeli hostages were recovered from gaza on friday. israel says it believes 100 hostages are still alive. there the condition of slovakia's prime minister has been described as stable but serious. after he was shot five times at point blank range, 59

year old robert fico underwent another two hours of surgery yesterday. the man accused of attempting to assassinate him on wednesday has appeared in court , wednesday has appeared in court, with officials suggesting the attack was politically motivated . and tyson fury says boxing fans should expect fireworks when he takes on oleksandr usyk tonight. as they finally go head tonight. as they finally go head to head to become the undisputed world heavyweight boxing champion. both fighters , champion. both fighters, undefeated at professional level, had to be separated by security at an eventful weigh in last night, fury's final interview before the showdown had so many expletives . it's not had so many expletives. it's not broadcastable. around 3000 british fight fans have travelled to saudi arabia for tonight's clash . and for the tonight's clash. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . nana.

back to. nana. >> thank you sophia. just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua . people's channel. i'm nana akua. oh, dear. harry and meghan, if you thought that the newspapers in this country went all gushy over the pair when they went to nigeria, you'd be right. but if you ask many nigerians, it was a whole different other conversation on meghan's claims that she's 43% nigerian. this is what many actually thought. >> this is the nigerian action. >> this is the nigerian action. >> so let me start with you. >> so let me start with you. >> are you proud ? proud 43% >> are you proud? proud 43% nigerian new entry meghan the duchess of sussex i don't know if i have to be proud if that's the no. i don't need to be proud. rather i feel like she's going to add to the negative list that we already have in nigeria. >> on how meghan has treated our

late queen and her in—laws in nigerian girl were lucky enough or whatever. >> marry into the royal family. i think she would know to what do. i think she would have respected her in—laws because that's the way we were cultured. we have aunties, uncles, we have extended family. she would have respected the extended family and before, you know, a nigerian woman would have earned the queen's love and respect that she would start cooking jollof rice within the royal family and i believe the queen would have been eating jollof rice before she passed away. >> and their message to her now that she thinks that she is a nigerian , the only advice i nigerian, the only advice i would give to her is she needs to go to nigeria and learn some manners. >> well yeah yeah yeah, she needs to go to nigeria. lesson nigeria manners are well. >> i saw this trip for what it was a fake royal looking tour under the guise of invictus .

under the guise of invictus. meghan couldn't even be bothered to step outside heathrow airport, choosing to meet harry in the windsor lounge at the airport for an on board flight to nigeria. they can't seriously expect us to believe that they're concerned about their safety. i mean, nigeria rates as one of the most dangerous places in the world, but my favourite bit on this tour was when the duke and duchess were forced to stand for the uk national anthem, god save the . anthem, god save the. king. lviv . lviv. awkward. the nigerians aren't falling for their fake crud ehhen falling for their fake crud either. the pair have successfully isolated pretty

much every country they visited and back in the us. they were not, it would appear, invited to the met gala. i mean, they may have turned it down, but it's a big old event. i can't see meghan not wanting to go to that. they've become a laughing stock there as well. you see, repeatedly slagging off your own family on an international stage when it is because of them that you have the privilege does not bode well. and whilst your dna meghan might be in the main nigerian being nigerian is about a culture just like being british. i may have ghanaian dna for which i'm thankful, but my culture is british, i'm british, the people of nigeria are not stupid . the sussexes would be stupid. the sussexes would be wise not to underestimate them . wise not to underestimate them. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this out, i'm asking, should rent caps be introduced just now? shadow chancellor rachel reeves has seemingly gone rogue by saying that there may be a case for

rent controls in parts of the country. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should rent caps be introduced? then at 450, it's royal roundup time. angela levin will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu. harry and meghan reportedly thrilled at how their quasi royal tour of nigeria went down with the locals. perhaps they should watch my monologue. and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversations. cynthia stroud will be in the studio to discuss her story, how she became such a successful businesswoman despite having to go it alone. that's coming up in the next hour as even coming up in the next hour as ever. tell me what you . as ever. ever. tell me what you. as ever. tell me, what do you think on everything we're discussing? get in touch. gbnews.com forward slash your say. but right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast columnist lizzie cundy. also former labour party adviser. matthew laza right lizzie cundy . you know right lizzie cundy. you know i always come to you first. she's she's itching. yeah i mean we don't want to be horrible to her. come on. >> but i just want to ask the question why? why.

>> yes absolutely. >> yes absolutely. >> that's it. we can stop now. we can stop. why? why they're no longer working royals. they're not politicians. and they're certainly not rock stars . what certainly not rock stars. what was that tour all about? i mean, what a sham. it's a fake royal toun what a sham. it's a fake royal tour. and i think the only reason they did it was to rattle the cage of king charles and william. and i'm so sorry. she described this tour as so meaningful and so really focus on the real things that matter to us. i mean, they were entertaining and for three days they had dancing, polo . so, all they had dancing, polo. so, all they had dancing, polo. so, all the works, no mention at all of the works, no mention at all of the horrific human rights issues that go on in nigeria. the horrific human rights issues that go on in nigeria . the, you that go on in nigeria. the, you know, the child brides, the poverty. it's 43, of that country is below poverty. and there she is in all her different dramatic outfits, costing thousands and thousands of pounds, totally not reading the room, oblivious or and oblivious. and i just think they're laughing stocks. i'll tell you why they did this tour. they did it for photo

opportunities for a pr stunt. and sadly, to rattle the cage of king charles. and i think it's really awful what they've done . really awful what they've done. what do you think matthew laza. >> well i think they fail to rattle king charles's cage. >> i think they just made fools of themselves really. >> i mean, not least the national anthem was a pretty extraordinary footage there wasn't it, of i mean, i've never seen somebody look so sort of embarrassed, then you can imagine. >> i mean, i think this is absolutely right. >> why they have to accept ehhen >> why they have to accept either, you know, they could have been working royals, in which case they would have been representing our country abroad. and they would have had meetings. to that end, they may well have had a trade delegation with them, which is what you usually have on a royal visit. so it's not just the pomp and ceremony. there's real business behind it. and as you say, they're not politicians, they're not rock stars. they're just a couple of people without anything to do, you know, and so and, and why should the nigerian be sort of doff their caps to them? i mean, there's this thing called white saviour, mentality, which is. yeah, which is sort of, you know, all those films comic relief used to make where

it sent off celebrities to go and, you know, pose with children in, in villages in africa. and that's kind of moving away from the whole charity sector has moved away from that. and yes, people want to do their bit, but it's sort of assuming that whether you're white or you're of mixed heritage like meghan and you're just turning up in a country, as you say, where you, you know, you say, where you, you know, you may have found some dna, but you may have found some dna, but you haven't actually found any cultural links to it. you're not you didn't grow up there. you didn't spend time there. you just look like you think you know best. i think it's incredibly patronising. the visit. yeah, and totally unnecessary. >> i think you're totally right, matthew. and for her to say i'm 43% nigerian. well, i'm sorry, i'm not surprised that half of the country is asking her for proof, because recently she was saying she was maltese. i honestly, i and for her to say this is my country , i absolutely this is my country, i absolutely it's such an insult to nigeria and for and for them. to harry address an audience and say, i feel like you're my in—laws. when he himself, i mean, he hasn't even visited or met his own in—law. yeah. i mean, it is just something else, you know, that's just utterly

embarrassing, isn't it? >> i mean, it's utterly cringe behaviour. it's white, white, posh, white boy tries to be cool and get down with people of colour. and it's just it's risible. i mean, it's actually offensive. >> it is really. and i commend the nigerians for playing the national anthem and forcing them, because obviously they then had to stand. now the nigerians have very clever people. they're not stupid. they would know that that is a message to king charles. that is a message to king charles saying, yeah, we're being polite, we're doing what we should do, but we're with you, charles. absolutely. >> i mean, nigerians say it how it is. i've just been on the bus and seen two nigerian ladies telling the bus drivers, you get a map to nigerian grannies. look, and so they've certainly, you know, the same, you know, telling it like it is there, as we saw in the reaction in the clips, people just think we don't need this patronising. >> sadly, they're becoming a laughing stock and they're embarrassing britain actually. and they're embarrassing britain. they're embarrassing, you know, everyone and they're doing it to all themselves. they've got south park doing cartoon features of them saying it's the, you know, the privacy toun it's the, you know, the privacy tour. they wanted privacy. what are they doing? yeah. as i said, i either have a private life or ,

i either have a private life or, you know, be a public figure, which is what you had the choice to do or go and do something which actually, you know, you know, if meghan went back to being a film star, i know there were issues whether she would, you know, get, get the jobs or not. >> but if she went back to being a, you know, film star, then, you know, she might be promoting a film or something, but literally just sort of finding something to do, actually take up gardening. >> but nobody the thing is, nobody would be interested in what they're doing if they weren't didn't have connections with the royal family. so they are, again, leveraging their connections to make themselves relevant. and i just think, well, listen, you had a chance to do what you are doing now under the guise of being royal. and actually in this discussion, i played you some of the clips, but the entire thing i'll send, i'll put a link out there on my facebook page where you can actually, it's actually out there on my facebook page where you can see the entire thing. and it is just the, you know, it's almost as though they think that they can patronise, in a sense, the nigerian people and pull the wool over their eyes and, and do nothing. what do they what sadly, they meaning they what sadly, they meaning they have to feel relevant and sadly, not just here, but over the pond. >> they're just losing all popularity. and they they this is them trying to feel

important. well, i'm sorry guys, you blew it. you walked out on this game. >> he uses the invictus games like he's representing a country . yeah. i mean, it's a very worthwhile charity, but it is a charity. you know, you don't tend to make your whole life about about one thing, you know, obviously, you know, when they actually happen, etc. but just a sort of sort of, you know, he doesn't represent britain. he doesn't represent britain. he doesn't represent britain. he doesn't represent anywhere else. he just sort of, you know, potters around the world. yeah. and shouldn't the money for the trip be spent on the, on the soldiers who were involved in exactly . exactly. >> and they're losing all concept of life. they, they're just in their own world, aren't they? and i've heard that king charles and william are absolutely livid with this because it is making a laughing. >> that's probably what that's probably part of it, isn't it? they probably want to infuriate the royal family. it feels like they just don't want to play ball and try and be at least friendly. the royal family are having their own issues at the moment, and it would just be nice if perhaps they showed a little bit of respect. but look, you know, i'm not against them going and doing things that are good and charitable. if there's a point, if there's a good point to it and good on them if they do. but if you're going to do

something good and charitable. when i used to work for the bbc, they said, look, if you're going to impoverished area, make sure you dress down, don't over dress. and i respect that. if i'm going, like with rishi sunak wearing those prada shoes, £500 prada shoes, when he went to that sort of place in the north where it's very deprived, that doesn't bode well. so things like that, it's just all of it. >> it's about sensitivity and empathy. >> but make a note everyone will be looking at don't have do they ? they? megan knows that. everyone will be looking at what she's wearing and how much it is. i mean, she wore just a summer dress that was over £4,000. what? it's just so offensive. and she totally forgets to read the room because it's all about me, me me me me. >> meanwhile, camilla, who they off, is, you know, is doing a great job. well, while the king is, you know, on, you know, not not on full time duties. >> well, listen, you know what? listen, we don't want to be too horrible because i feel half of me, you know, there's a moment where you think, oh, wouldn't it be wonderful if there had been gone with the royal thing and done all the tools? they could have done this with everyone's backing, but they didn't want to. they wanted privacy. and this is how it's turned out.

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housing and force up rental prices. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should rent caps be introduced? well, to discuss this former adviser to the bank of england roger gewolb property expert ricardo blanco , a former labour ricardo blanco, a former labour mp, stephen pound and the director of priced out freddie poser. right. i'm going to start with you, ricardo. what's your view on this? i mean, she didn't specifically say that we would do that. she just opened the door for the possibility for councils to have the control for this. >> she did. and i think it's because mayors like sadiq khan and andy burnham have been calling for local powers to be able to control rents. now, you know, i think we need to ask the question , why are rents high? question, why are rents high? it's because of a shortage of supply and, you know, if we introduce rent caps, then it's quite likely that landlords would sell up and we'd see even more of a shortage of supply. so i think this would just be addressing a symptom. it really wouldn't be addressing some of the root causes, so, you know, i'm very much against rent caps. i'm very much against rent caps. i think it would be a big mistake. what we need to do is build more houses. we haven't managed to build those 300,000 a year since the 1960s. and 70s,

and also encourage more investment in the private rented sector. so take away those punitive, tax taxation that they brought in against landlords in 2015. and encourage more investment. >> do you mean the taxes where you actually taxed on not your profit, but you actually taxed on the amount of money that you getin? on the amount of money that you get in? so as a landlord, years ago, you would get taxed only on the profits of the deducts your mortgage payments. but now everything you make from that property, irrespective of how much you pay in the mortgage, is taxed, which many say is unfair. i'm going to bring in, director of priced out freddie poser. freddie, what's your view on this? >> well, i broadly agree with richard. >> we think that all of these come down to a supply crisis . come down to a supply crisis. and this is another failed attempt to do demand side regulation of something that's a shortage of homes. >> so we've been calling on labour to stick to their guns really on housing supply and actually go through with their promise to back the builders, unlock that housing supply and bnng unlock that housing supply and bring down rents, bring down rents that way, not bring in

rents that way, not bring in rent caps, which we don't think will tackle the root of the problem. and have, you know, a whole laundry list of negative second order effects. okay. roger gewolb your view on this? >> well, i don't think that the issue of rent caps is really inflatable at the moment with how many houses we build, i think it would be fine if they're going to be rent caps to have them temporarily, until those houses are built. the issue is that rent caps will keep landlords from exploiting people. i mean, rents have just shot up to an alarming level. i know one lady who is now living in a room rented in a not particularly nice house in peckham for the same price she was paying for a beautiful studio in notting hill. some, some rents have gone up 4,050% in london. it's quite crazy on the other hand, if the decisions are put in the hands of, can i say, you know, lefty councils that just, have their own agendas and they set rents at ridiculous low levels, they will drive the market out. so it's a

very difficult question, and i'm not really in favour one way or the other without seeing a specific proposal . specific proposal. >> yeah, but what about interest rates? like there was a hike in interest rates. you capped the rent, you've got the landlord paying rent, you've got the landlord paying for the difference especially to be needs to be adjusted. yeah. but especially with the fact that the landlord no longer is simply taxed on the profit. but is taxed on the entire take from the property. >> so it would be a mindless council that didn't have a provision to raise the caps. if interest rates go up. >> yeah, well, a lot of them are mindless. stephen pound. >> yeah. well, speaking on behalf of leftie mindless council , behalf of leftie mindless council, some councillors can i say we would have loved to have had that. >> but look, we had rent caps dunng >> but look, we had rent caps during the war. >> they brought them in, they brought them in all across europe and have got rid of them fairly quickly. >> we actually have a system in this country called rent tribunals that don't get used often enough. >> you can go to a rent tribunal. >> all the details are on the government website, and you can government website, and you can go there if you've got a problem about disrepair, noise nuisance, the rent being increased, service charges. >> so don't forget a lot of rents may stay static, but the service charges will go through the roof. >> it's one way of getting

around it, but you've got to ask yourself the question, and i hate to agree with everybody else because that's not my natural inclination. >> but yes, this is a supply side problem. this is not a solve a problem that can be resolved by tinkering around at the outcome. we've got to deal with supply, or we've got to ask ourselves, where in the world do rent caps work? there's a system similarly, something in vienna that's quite similar, but it's not not comparable. >> new york had rent caps and nowadays they're being bought out, so it doesn't work anywhere else. let's concentrate on building. >> let's concentrate on actually supporting the good landlords and giving the tenants some security, maybe move away from assured shorthold tenancies, maybe go to a more secure form of tenancy. >> there are ways of dealing with. >> but. but she said that she's not convinced. rachel reeves said she's not convinced by it, but she's still prepared to open the door to it. ricardo. and that's the thing, isn't it? >> yes. this was a surprise, really. it sort of came out of the blue because we've been told by, labour politicians at westminster that it's not their policy to introduce rent caps. and, you know, they've been trying to kind of sidle up to business over the last few, couple of years, at least ,

business over the last few, couple of years, at least, and move towards the centre. so i think, i think she made a mistake . i actually i'm not sure mistake. i actually i'm not sure it is labour party policy, and i'm surprised that she said it, but i think she certainly is having her ear bent by some of the mayors that really do want those local powers . and you those local powers. and you know, what you could end up with is, say, rent controls in manchester but not in birmingham. and then, you know , birmingham. and then, you know, people wanting to move to manchester because the rents are cheapen manchester because the rents are cheaper, but then there aren't enough properties and, you know, all sorts of ridiculous imbalances that that just wouldn't work for the nation as a whole, because what she said there may well have, because i am a landlord , but only by am a landlord, but only by default. >> i moved somewhere else . and >> i moved somewhere else. and with somebody who i don't live with somebody who i don't live with now, but i didn't know them well enough to actually buy a property with them, and i didn't trust them well enough. and i was flaming right as well. but i'll go there. no, but you know, you you meet somebody new, you don't immediately go, i'm going to buy a house and everything. so i rented out my property and we gave it a try to live together. it didn't work. i'm glad that i didn't, but i'm not a landlord because i'm making

loads of money in it. and i do feel. roger that. sometimes labour policies or the things they're going to stand by feel like a bit of politics of envy. >> well, first of all, i mean, i have to say that any man who couldn't live in a successful relationship with you must be a total idiot. secondly, exactly . total idiot. secondly, exactly. secondly, you know, rent controlled properties have, as you say, worked in manhattan and they have worked for decades and decades quite well in paris, so, as i said earlier, it's a question of the specifics, not a bunch of politicians . hot air, bunch of politicians. hot air, let's bring in freddie poser for his thoughts on on this. so, in short , do you think that there short, do you think that there could be any element of rent capping that might work in this country and under a labour government ? government? >> no, i think i'm very against. i'm not sure i would agree that they have worked well in manhattan or paris because the answer is the question is for whom have they worked? and they work very well for the sitting tenant who gets lucky enough to

be grandfathered into a lovely rent controlled apartment. but they're very bad for the dynamism of the market. and i don't think this is a it shouldn't be seen as some moral crusade for or against landlords. this should be all about making sure that our housing stock is as high quality and as accessible to people as possible, and the only way to do thatis possible, and the only way to do that is the supply side things. and i think that rent caps, or even the threat of rent caps is not just a distraction. it is. it has its own negative impact on its own. i really want to see labour stick to its back, the builders pledge and actually get house building unlocked in the uk. >> i would agree with that because the moment i heard that i thought, i'm going to sell up, let's get rid of this thing that i haven't buy an actual house that i actually live in. freddie poser, thank you very much. from freistadt, is the director of that stephen pound, former labour mp, former property expert, no property expert. you're not a former one. you still are property expert ricardo blanco and also former adviser to the bank of england. roger gewolb, thank you so much for your thoughts and please, what do you think at home? gb news. com forward slash your say this is gb news. we're live on

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38 minutes after 4:00. welcome. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua, andifs people's channel. i'm nana akua, and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, should rent caps be introduced? shadow chancellor rachel reeves has seemingly opened the door to the possibility of introducing rent caps, saying that there may be a case for it in some areas. although she did say she's not convinced. so for the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking, should rent caps be introduced? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also former labour party adviser matthew laza matthew laza . i'm matthew laza matthew laza. i'm going to start with you. should they be introduced? >> so i agree with rachel, you may not be surprised to hear, i think that there is a for case rent control in very specific circumstances, in very specific areas, which which is what. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> so what the specific

circumstances are. well, i think if there's a particular problem in a local market, if it's just there's, you know, we've there's an issue of second homes in some parts of the country and whether you should introduce a cap so that local people can still get access to homes. but i'm not in favour. and neither is rachel of a blanket rent cap across the board, because it hasn't worked in other places. and we've seen in other places. and we've seen in scotland, which is trying to do it recently, it hasn't worked in scotland, i don't, she said. >> she's not convinced, though to be fair to them. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and i and i think that's a very vague answer. >> which one of those things what's crucial about it is, is that she's saying that it should be up to local councils and therefore, you know, well, no, therefore, you know, well, no, therefore you would have a direct say, i mean, about, you know, with elections. so, i mean, we all we can all laugh at that. but for example, there's a low traffic neighbourhoods which a lot of people hate. you know, people have said we ate them and they've been taken out in some cases taken out, i think in specifically when sadiq khan realised that ambulance drivers and people like that were complaining and his own tfl and people like that who he works closely with were telling him that it doesn't work. i think also that, you know, campaigning makes a difference. so i think

i'm in favour of councils having the opportunity, having the, the powers to do what's right for their particular area. but it has to be specifically focused on an area. >> i think it's scary. lizzie cundy it's scary. >> i don't think rachel reeves is doing the right thing. i don't think she thought it through. and look what's happenedin through. and look what's happened in scotland. it seriously hasn't worked, matthew has it? >> no, i agree, a blanket ban doesn't work and my friend who i think people think of landlords as these big fat cat landlords, my friend is a landlord and is deeply worried about this. >> they've been attacked enough and what all it will do is reverse effect, because they will won't, you know, they work hard, they get a second home, which they rent out that, you know, they're very to good their tenants. and now we're going to get this cap and they're just going to sell up, and then we're going to sell up, and then we're going to sell up, and then we're going to have less housing. i mean, it is going to have the opposite effect. >> matthew, there are 2000 people a week selling you know, who are in, who have rented a house or flat, and that home is then being sold by the landlord. and that's leading to the issue about the no no fault evictions. >> but the landlord might need to sell the house. >> i mean, no, no, i'm not saying that landlords shouldn't be prevented from saying selling

the house, but the government has actually done a lot of the tory government has done a lot of things which are very bad for landlords, starting with not being able to deduct mortgage interest. so a lot of people are already leaving. i would say that you have to think very carefully about rent controls because it could lead to more landlords leaving, but if it helps, if it has that advantage for landlords in that you've got stability in a particular market, then that might work. even proceed with caution. >> even her saying that though now and opening the door has made someone like me an accidental landlord, think, yeah, i'd be an accidental london at that time too. that's the thing. and it's we make up the thing. and it's we make up the majority of landlords, so we're not it's not people with 300, not three people. you know, that's very rare. if you appear on daytime tv when they're at the auctions. >> but that's because that's their full time job. >> but that's because that's theirfull time job. but >> but that's because that's their full time job. but i >> but that's because that's theirfull time job. but i don't their full time job. but i don't think people realise how much we've got. >> we've got empty houses in england, 600,000 empty houses, rental outlets that are empty, 6000. we've got 1.3 million that are waiting for housing. surely we need to deal with that. there's all this and we need to buildings that are empty. >> and that's why they build more houses . rachel reeves don't

more houses. rachel reeves don't do this. we need to build on the grotty bits of the greenbelt and protect the actual green bits of the greenbelt. >> this is not going to work. it's only going to the marginal landlord. this is going to just leave the market. it won't be worth it for them. >> they'll just say, i think it's fine for local councils to have the powers, but i don't think that it should be imposed across the country. i don't, and neither does all. >> you're going to have the powers at all, you know. not a lot of them are bankrupt. if you've seen, especially some of the labour ones. i know some conservative ones too. >> yeah, but from the tories, birmingham, from labour. >> but look, this hasn't worked in scotland. it hasn't worked. >> it hasn't worked even to open the door to it. >> it frightens people. >> it frightens people. >> why should mention it's, it's her pet project, you know, we need quality. we need quality landlords, we need quality homes, and we need more. we certainly need more homes. >> well, listen, this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voice, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. where should we're discussing. where should we go? oh, yeah. >> the map is back. >> the map is back. >> we love the map. right, let's go to bristol. you know, let's have a chat with leigh harris. leigh harris, your thoughts on this? she opened the door to it.

she didn't say she's not convinced she said, but there may be a case for it in some places. >> well, apart from matthew, as far as i can tell, there are very few sensible people, including economists, that think rent controls are a good idea. >> you know, as you've already, you think i'm a sensible personally? >> no, no, i think so. >> you weren't. >> you weren't. >> no. you said you weren't sensible. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, no, you you know, i like you, matthew. >> but on this i like you too. i can't like nana said, you can't give even more powers to councils. that'll just be ridiculous. >> but, you know, as you've already discussed, you have all you have to do is look at scotland. >> you know, the loopy greens, along with the snp, introduced rent controls and their prices have skyrocketed by about 10 or 11% in some parts. in scotland, about 20, which is even faster than london. and all of it was totally predictable. new properties that are coming on the rental market are much more expensive to rent, because landlords, can't change the price during the contract , and price during the contract, and it's reduced the supply of houses because landlords are selling up , houses because landlords are selling up, which has made the problem even worse. it's resulted directly resulted in less houses for rent at much higher cost. >> i mean , what did rachel

>> i mean, what did rachel reeves do? >> look at scotland and everywhere else in the world and think it's worked well. >> you'd have to be mad to think that. >> i just don't get it. >> i just don't get it. >> the only thing that i can think of is it's obviously a very popular policy with lefties and renters, and it's just a cheap way to get more votes. >> and as soon as they get into power, they'll just not go ahead with it. just like almost every other pledge, labour, labour have made. >> well, let's let's hope that they they don't go ahead with it or she doesn't open the door to it because it's already putting the frighteners up a lot of people. leigh harris, thank you very much. really good to talk to you. that's leigh harris. he's a great british voice in bristol. that's what he thought . bristol. that's what he thought. yeah. agree with him. >> totally. >> totally. >> i do as well. listen what do you think gb news gbnews.com forward slash your say coming up my difficult conversation . my difficult conversation. businesswoman and cake designer cynthia stroud m.b.e. will be joining me to talk about her career in business. but next, angela levin will be here to give us the latest from behind the panels. walls do not go anywhere.

good afternoon. if you just tuned in. where have you been? that's right, i forgive you. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and there's always something going on in the royal household. and this week has been no different. in each saturday, i'll have to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin? angela. hello. hello. so what have we got? >> well, what? >> well, what? >> i want to obviously mention something about harry and meghan and my feeling about it is a comment that harry made , which i comment that harry made, which i think is very dangerous for all of us and him. and he says that it's important for us to meet directly with people supporting our causes and listening in order to bring about solutions , order to bring about solutions, support and positive change. >> what's wrong with that ? >> what's wrong with that? >> what's wrong with that? >> well, there's a lot wrong with that because it's not his job to do that. >> he is not a royal member of the royal family he's not

working for them and he is going to sort of start repairing things and handling things and making it all right. and i think this is the implication often that they want to go to other places around and sort of take it over from the king and the family, because they are difficult. it's difficult for them at the moment. they can't go abroad because of the cancer issue, so they're trying to take it away. i think that's why otherwise that there visit wouldn't have been so spread out to all sorts of different things. if they were going to talk about invictus games and just meghan having 43, genes, they wouldn't have had such a broad, platform that they talked on. it was all very carefully done. on. it was all very carefully done . and the royal family go done. and the royal family go because they're told to by the government, they're not just make up their own mind and pop along. you know, they have to have everything like those two

out, like those two, because they need to know exactly what they're doing, exactly who they're doing, exactly who they're talking about , they're doing, exactly who they're talking about, and make sure that they don't commit the country to maybe a country that thinks they still have some power. and i think it's very , power. and i think it's very, very dangerous. >> well, the nigerians didn't buy into it, actually, and there were many people. >> unfortunately not. i mean, they showed how bright they were. they immediately worked it out . but i do were. they immediately worked it out. but i do think they can still start going around other countries , liz, and make it countries, liz, and make it their place. and find a reason that it's very special. this is my home number two, and make it very difficult for the country . very difficult for the country. >> i don't think that that will work. that tactic because nobody's buying it. and i think the elephant in the room, if you i don't know whether you saw but they played god save the king and harry and meghan were forced. they were absolutely, absolutely frozen. >> he hated it and they didn't move their mouths. one bit, tiny bit to sing it along . bit to sing it along. >> but it's genius of the nigerians to put that in there though. genius. yeah well, they didn't want to make the king

feel out of it. >> i wanted to show respect. exactly, absolutely right. but i still think, you know, i think meghan is so determined. she has to win. and this is part of her attempt to win and secure things that the royal family can't do. none of her stuff works out in the end. the germ and you know, anything else. but i do think that this is something to be very careful of. and i think the king and prince william need to be, which i know that they're being very cautious now. >> maybe it's time to strip the titles properly and just let them know that that's complicated, because it has to be done through parliament. >> yeah, but you have to. i think what the idea is that you ring other countries and say , ring other countries and say, you know, it is not right. >> well, it's dangerous as well. i mean, look, nigeria does rate as one of a very dangerous place, although , you know, they place, although, you know, they spent a lot of money protecting the sussexes on that trip, you know, so it's a big demand for a thorough investigation as to who's paid for all of this.

>> exactly. because, you know, they say the country does it come out of the country's purse with so why not? >> well, what else have we got then? well, i'd like to talk about the lady gabriella windsor. >> she's a delightful woman, and she lost her husband of four years very recently . he died. years very recently. he died. and there's some complicated idea of what what he died from. yeah, and, it's. the royal family are taking her under their arm, and king charles has asked her if she would like to take part and go on the balcony, andifs take part and go on the balcony, and it's be very , very nice for and it's be very, very nice for her. if she did that, if she felt like it. because the following week, there's a service on behalf of his passing, the actual , death was passing, the actual, death was very small. there were very few people came, and i thought it would be such a very nice gesture. >> lovely, isn't it, to bring her. >> to bring her in. the other

thing i'd like to say is that i love the painting of king charles. although it's red, it's very red, wasn't it? it's very red, but i thought it was beautifully done . and the face beautifully done. and the face showed everything about him. you know , his happiness, his concern know, his happiness, his concern and the butterfly on his shoulder, which could have been his mother. a lot of people say that a butterfly represents someone who's passed away. and i thought it was absolutely brilliant and i loved it. >> oh, bless him, he's a great, isn't he? well, listen, also , isn't he? well, listen, also, the king he gave, he gave his colonel in chief, army . yes. he colonel in chief, army. yes. he is that about william met to do that. >> he had it when he was a duke. he's had it for 30 years. he's passed it over to william, and apache helicopter. and harry is very annoyed that he thinks he should have done it because he flew them. but but he's not a working royal, so he can't. so they're so they're exactly.

>> yeah. you're not working royal anymore, harry. but anyway, andrew levin, thank you so much. always a pleasure to talk to you. that is the royal biographer angela levin. still to come this week's difficult conversations, businesswoman and an award winning cake designer cynthia stroud, m.b.e, will be here to tell us all about her career and how she built a successful business. first, it's the . weather. the. weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office into sunday. we'll see showers easing, but it's going to be a murky start before plenty of warm sunshine. so high pressure situated out towards the west, low pressure further towards the east and in between . towards the east and in between. not too much going on, a lot of light winds around so the showers that we've seen today across wales and parts of the southwest will generally fade, especially across scotland as

well . but elsewhere plenty of well. but elsewhere plenty of dry weather, clear spells but we will see low cloud returning for parts of scotland and the south—east of england, but otherwise temperatures holding up at around 10 or 11 degrees in the towns and cities . so to the towns and cities. so to start on sunday, it's going to be a murky start for some of us with low cloud, mist and fog, especially for parts of the south—east of england and east anglia. further towards the west, though, plenty of bright skies to start the day, and that transferring across parts of wales and the north of england , wales and the north of england, but across scotland especially further east, you go a lot of cloud to start the day, with low cloud to start the day, with low cloud lingering across those coastal regions and further towards the north. cloud thick enough, thick enough for some patchy rain and drizzle. so throughout the rest of sunday any low cloud, mist and fog should generally lift and break away to leave plenty of sunshine on offer for most of us, it will stay rather cloudy across parts of scotland and here we could see a few showers, and especially across that

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water supplies were contaminated by parasites. the number of confirmed cases of crypto spyridium in the brixham area are now 46, but the water company has confirmed it is now safe for around 14,500 households in the alston supply area to use their tap water as normal, but they're still advising around 2500 properties in hillhead upper parts of brixham and kingswear to continue to boil their drinking water before consuming it . water before consuming it. meanwhile, olympian dame kelly holmes has joined protesters today demonstrating about poor water quality. 37 protests are taking place in places including brighton, falmouth and edinburgh. water companies say they're spending more than £14 billion this year to protect waterways in england and wales. but campaigners emma jackson and emma pattinson are demanding tougher action. >> we want you to do something about the contamination of destroying our riverway, and local governments, national

governments in safeguarding clean water, shepperton open water swim is a body of clean water. it naturally cleanses itself. the river testing that we've done versus the water testing of the lake shows five times over the levels that the environment agency would act as safeguarding . safeguarding. >> in other news, two east london criminals who used a plane to smuggle migrants from northern france to essex have been jailed. the albanian nationals, who were part of a major crime network, arranged at least nine migrant trips in 2016 and 2017. the national crime agency's eight year investigation revealed the two men provided counterfeit documents to migrants, charging £10,000 per person for the trip. they received combined sentences of five years and two months behind bars . of five years and two months behind bars. the health and social harms caused by alcohol in england cost the taxpayer more than £27 billion a year. that's according to new estimates. that's after 40%

increase since 2003. the institute of alcohol studies says the cost of crime and disorder linked to drinking costs more than £14.5 billion alone on health alcohol related harm cost the nhs just under 5 billion, enough to pay for the salaries of almost half of nurses in england. however, the dnnks nurses in england. however, the drinks industry says the data doesn't consider the £46 billion in direct economic benefits to the uk. pro—palestinian protesters are holding a demonstration in central london against the conflict in gaza. there are worries about a lack of aid there , despite a new of aid there, despite a new american built floating pier where supplies can be shipped in. but campaigners say it's not enough. in. but campaigners say it's not enough . meanwhile, israeli enough. meanwhile, israeli troops say they've deployed 70 militant targets in its latest operations in rafah and jabalia, the largest refugee camp in the region . it comes after the region. it comes after the bodies of three israeli hostages were recovered from gaza on friday. israel says it believes the 100 hostages are still alive. their families of

hostages have been holding a news conference in tel aviv, calling for their return. >> the war must be stopped at once and the hostages must be rescued . rescued. >> war cabinet members stop the expansion of the rafah operation and secure a hostage release deal now. >> our family members are being raped in captivity. they are being starved and tortured. why do you allow netanyahu to continue sabotaging the hostage release deal? >> negotiations ? >> negotiations? >> negotiations? >> why do you remain silent in the face of his actions? >> why do you not come out and tell the public, as galant has done, how netanyahu tirelessly takes action to sabotage the hostage release deal? >> now, the condition of slovakia's prime minister has been described as stable but serious. after he was shot five times at point blank range. 59 year old robert fico underwent another two hour surgery yesterday. the man accused of

attempting to assassinate him on wednesday has appeared in court with officials suggesting the attack was politically motivated . and tyson fury says boxing fans should expect fireworks when he takes on oleksandr usyk tonight . as they finally go head tonight. as they finally go head tonight. as they finally go head to head to become the undisputed world heavyweight boxing champion. both fighters , champion. both fighters, undefeated at professional level, had to be separated by security at an eventful weigh in last night. fury's final interview before the showdown had so many expletives . it's not had so many expletives. it's not broadcastable. around 3000 british fight fans have travelled to saudi arabia for tonight's clash . and for the tonight's clash. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts . now it's back news .com/ alerts. now it's back to . nana. to. nana. >> thank you sophia. just coming

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discussing that very shortly, as there were some of your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay . so thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay. so it's now time for this week's difficult conversations. now, how hard is it to go it alone in business? and not only that, but to go on and then be really hyper successful? well, my next guest is a business owner , guest is a business owner, mentor and cake designer who has suppued mentor and cake designer who has supplied cakes to the brit awards i know queen charlotte's ball, kensington palace and the london clothes show and as a result has won several awards for her business and individually as entrepreneur. and she is also a food judge on multiple tv shows and networks. well i'm very pleased to say that i'm joined in the studio by business owner and award winning cake designer cynthia stroud. cynthia well , you're really good cynthia well, you're really good to see you. love your hair. >> good to see you. >> thank you. what kind of outfits are sort of similar in design ? in style? the code you design? in style? the code you got, the code you got the

message . so cynthia told me message. so cynthia told me about your journey. then because about yourjourney. then because you. you weren't born in this country. no talk to me about your journey. country. no talk to me about yourjourney. how did country. no talk to me about your journey. how did you country. no talk to me about yourjourney. how did you get here? what happened in your life for you to find yourself on the shores of the united kingdom? well i, i actually studied microbiology and into my second yeani microbiology and into my second year, i came to england for the first time. >> i was from where? from nigeria . and i arrived, mid nigeria. and i arrived, mid december . it nigeria. and i arrived, mid december. it was dark, it was cold and i loved it. i did honestly, everyone expects me to like hot temperature, but i just knew that i liked the, you know, i liked the weather, i liked the can do that. i seem to sense around it . around it. >> i like the fact that women seem to be able to do almost anything. >> so i started trying to figure out how i was going to come here and study, but i couldn't afford to. >> so i happened across a clothing store, primark, and i

thought, well , let's see if thought, well, let's see if i could buy some things here. take back to my undergrad , sell them back to my undergrad, sell them for a profit and build up money that way . that way. >> and that's exactly what i did. >> really. >> really. >> so you bought them in primark . you were living in the uk? yes. and then i was living in nigeria. so you're living in nigeria. so you're living in nigeria and you bought the stuff from primark and then you took it to nigeria and sold it and sold it for a high mark—up and they just loved it because there weren't that many stores. >> so it was a gap in the market. i mean, in nigeria , most market. i mean, in nigeria, most things you could buy then or you could get then were sort of custom made clothes and it wasn't really western fashion. so i became this sort of fashion career where people would say, oh , can you look for a blazer oh, can you look for a blazer that's in such and such colour for me? and i'll say, okay, it will be x amount of money, go buy us. you know, buy it from primark and go and sell there. and i just saved up money and then try to find somewhere that would let me do an mba. i'm sure this is all perfectly legal as well. >> you did it all perfectly.

>> you did it all perfectly. >> oh, it was very legal. >> oh, it was very legal. >> yes. professionally and properly. absolutely. yeah. so then you saved up money to do an mba. and where where did you do that mba? >> well, i applied to lots of places, but i was either too young or didn't have enough office work experience. and then i went to university of buckingham because it had a great reputation with nigeria and still does. and it didn't mind that i was 21. it said, yeah, come on along . so i went yeah, come on along. so i went and started my mba in university of buckingham. >> that's quite incredible, isn't it? so you did your mba. what was it? was it business? >> yes, business. majoring in marketing and i thought the whole about three months in and i was thinking, i want to live here, i want to work here because the, the, the plan was do the mba go back home and get married and have kids. nothing wrong with that if that's what you wanted. but i sensed that i was supposed to do a little bit more than that, so i started applying to every and anywhere i

wrote about 113 applications for. i got my first job, which was somewhere i'd never even heard of . so i moved my little heard of. so i moved my little self over there, knew no one, and started my job. >> what was your job? >> what was your job? >> marketing developer. okay for scientific instrument. so it linked. it linked the with your mba and my degree. but then that's when i realised that what i thought marketing was is not actually what marketing is. i thought marketing was me selling and doing all of that. no marketing in that sense was more about, you know , creating about, you know, creating brochures and no, no, no, no. and i just, you know, i sell i and ijust, you know, i sell i knew, you know, i like to gauge what people want and what they're after. so so, unfortunately, at this point, i'd got married and then lost the baby. >> oh, that's very sad. >> oh, that's very sad. >> and then when i was pregnant again , i knew before i ever even again, i knew before i ever even discussed it, i thought wild horses would not keep me away from this baby. when he arrived . from this baby. when he arrived. and i thought, i've got to figure out to how work from

home, but still make money. >> can i ask how you lost the baby? was it just it was very poorly. >> he. he didn't develop very well. he had something called polycystic. polycystic hygroma, so his kidneys and lungs just would not develop, you know? and it was it was horrendous. i was heartbroken, but thank god got pregnant again to a healthy for a healthy baby. and the whole time i was pregnant, i thought, whatever. my ex—husband says, i'm not going back to work. i'm not going to leave. not because i didn't want to go back to work because i did. but i was not going to leave this baby in a nursery and go. i didn't know it, but i think, well, it later emerged i had separation anxiety, understandably so. once i went on maternity leave, i thought, you know, the difference between my salary and childcare was about £500. then i thought it must be possible to make £500, right? so i started baking loaf cakes.

make £500, right? so i started baking loaf cakes . oh yeah. baking loaf cakes. oh yeah. >> baking. >> baking. >> oh, nana baking. well, you know, you know, baking is such a feel good thing. yeah right. >> eating is feeling even better. >> well, so you think . but if >> well, so you think. but if you bake, you actually enjoy the baking. almost more than the eating. but almost, almost. >> so you started making cakes. >> so you started making cakes. >> i started making cakes. and like, literally, i had to put my pride aside. i had yes, i had a two great one degree, i had an mba and i literally started going to fairs and fetes and stuff and trying to sell these loaf cakes. right. and the truth was, i was a good baker. so people were buying and i realised, okay, i'm making these cakes and i'm selling out quicker than i can make them. how can i make this make the same stuff but sell it more expensive ? then i tweaked on expensive? then i tweaked on wedding cakes, wedding cakes and then moved into that. >> and there's a dog cake. is that a dog in a cake? >> so that was actually, a cake i made for the owners of bicester village. bicester village is this shopping mall or

shopping centre. and they've got a huge , bear sculpture. and it a huge, bear sculpture. and it was, i think it was some 10th anniversary they were celebrating and they said, can you make us a cake shaped like that? i thought, why not? and you did. my motto is just don't say no. go and figure out to . how >> says a loaf cake was the first one. that's the one that you brought me, which i'm going to stuff my face in. exactly. it's a private cake for me as well, not for the others. >> so, yeah. >> so, yeah. >> and it was, you know, i decided if you're going to do this, i don't want to have any regrets. say yes to everything you know and figure out how to do it. so i was constantly learning. and then eventually people knew that if you wanted something outlandish , go to something outlandish, go to cynthia. yeah, because she will do it one way or another. never mind that i wouldn't sleep for three days before doing it, but it will get done. and you know, we developed this reputation for being reliable and it was fantastic . absolutely fantastic. fantastic. absolutely fantastic. and some of the best parts were my staff. >> but you ended up making

supplying the brit awards yes, the queen charlotte's ball. yes i mean, and the london clothes show. you weren't. you didn't become just, you know, people make cakes. you say, oh, just make cakes. you say, oh, just make a couple of cakes here, there. but you ended up supplying some of the most prestigious events and some of the most, you know, important people, as it were. how how do you know it was just if you want it, go out and get it. >> i know that i don't mean that sound blase , but i'll give you sound blase, but i'll give you an idea. when i supplied london's clootz show, i'd only been going about 15 months. wow. and i was flipping through a magazine shapps, which. and i saw something about london clothes show something in the previous page. i was talking about tendering, and i thought, oh, i put those two together. they weren't even related. so i googled, yeah, organiser of london clothes show. i went, hey, i don't suppose you thought about having cakes? and i went, no, no, no. and i said, well, i could do them at this price. made it really low price . i

made it really low price. i went, go on there and send us some samples. and that was how i did it. and i went, oh, my team and i did it. and i went, oh, my team and! nana did it. and i went, oh, my team and i nana there was no team. it was myself and my son and we literally baked almost 24 hours. oh wow. and i had no van. i just loaded boxes and boxes and boxes into this saloon car with my babyin into this saloon car with my baby in a corner somewhere, and drove and delivered and at the back, you know, backstage they had, you know, bands they wanted all these models eating the cakes. and i thought, god , it cakes. and i thought, god, it really goes to show if you want it enough and you're willing to be bold, you can do it. yeah. and then after that they went, could you do birmingham clothes show? and i thought, oh, that's a bit far, i said, i don't suppose you know other people i could supply. and i went, how about bretton woods? i thought, ha ha. actually, yeah, i'll do that. i wrote to them. >> wow. >> wow. >> and yeah . >> and yeah. >> and yeah. >> and yeah. >> and the rest is history. you. so you've got an mba ? yeah. so you've got an mba? yeah. >> mba from the school. yeah >> mba from the school. yeah >> yeah. and you've, you've done

i mean, i mean , what is one of i mean, i mean, what is one of the, what has been one of the most amazing moments in your career. >> the bretton woods was pretty amazing , but >> the bretton woods was pretty amazing, but i'll be >> the bretton woods was pretty amazing , but i'll be honest with amazing, but i'll be honest with you . when i went and got for my, you. when i went and got for my, my investiture, when i went and got the mba , i was, i was. got the mba, i was, i was. you're supposed to care. >> that's what i meant. an mba , >> that's what i meant. an mba, not the mba. >> yeah, i was, that's why you went. >> and you were very polite to let me out. i said home mba. even i knew i was mba, i do mean an mba. >> i got both so we could talk about whichever one. >> that was where the confusion lay. i was like, she's got both. actually so you've got an mba. what i was trying to say, that's where i was going with that. >> but it was, it was i was supposed to get the, you know, you know, the person that pins the badge, by the way, on you is, you know, someone from the royal family. we didn't know who we were going to get. i really wanted it to be william. and it was prince william. and you know, why not? >> william? what's wrong with william? >> no, i wanted it to be. you

want it to be? yes. and it was him. and >> and was harry still at the royal family at the time? no oh. was he gone by then? no. no. >> yeah. we don't talk about that. and we i'd walked up there and this, you know, this gentleman was telling us what to expect and da da da da. and he was going on and on, and i sort of tuned out a little bit. and you're supposed to walk up there, then turn like so and curtsy and then he'll ask you questions and you're polite and he'll answer, right, okay, fine, but i was wearing a dress that was cut like this, not deliberately, because i had no idea where this thing was going to be pinned. and i was going towards him and realised, oh, he's going to pin it there. i didn't do the whole l—shape. i just went like straight there and then stood. i didn't curtsy and then stood. i didn't curtsy and he started talking to me and just as he went to pin it, i went, oh shoot, i'm supposed to curtsy, aren't i? he went, well, whatever you do, don't curtsy now and then we both laughed and i just, you know , it's just, oh, i just, you know, it's just, oh, he sounds great. hang on a minute. i'm joking. >> and he's joking with you.

>> and he's joking with you. >> with the future king of england. >> wonderful. >> wonderful. >> yeah. when i was coming here selling primark clothes, i did not imagine this would happen . not imagine this would happen. but it confirmed everything i thought about england, which is ? thought about england, which is? it is a country of opportunity. yeah. you can build the life you want. you really , really can. want. you really, really can. it's a shame for anyone to do otherwise . but no. so that was otherwise. but no. so that was one of the most, sort of otherwise. but no. so that was one of the most , sort of wow moments. >> and cynthia we're running out of time. so easily. what are you up to now? and you know, you're doing your motivational stuff. if people want to get in touch, do you have a website or somewhere they can go? >> yes. so my website is cynthia .co.uk , i'm just working with, .co.uk, i'm just working with, you know, mainly women who have had all sorts of things, you know, in the background. and they, they have the work ethic, but they don't know how to convert their business. it's not you know, i don't charge for it, but i just want to help people sort of realise that bit, realise that potential. no

>> absolutely. right. so people can check you out on your website , which is remind me website, which is remind me again of cynthia .co.uk, cynthia sarah carter uk. thank you very much, cynthia. she's a business owner, an award winning cake designer. wow, that was a fabulous cynthia stroud . still fabulous cynthia stroud. still to come click bait. we'll be discussing how former secretary home secretary suella braverman tried to engage with cambridge protesters. but next it's time for the great british debate this out and i'm asking, is zakir the man to save britain? as he announces six election pledges earlier this week? i bet you can't name them .

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don't forget , you can stream the don't forget, you can stream the show live on youtube. it's time now though for the great british. debate this out and i'm asking is sir keir starmer the man to save britain? the labour leader unveiled the six key policies his party would enact if he wins power at the next general election. the pledges are to deliver economic stability, to set up a publicly owned clean power energy company, to create 40,000 more nhs appointments a week to create a border security command to stop the small boats crisis, to stop the small boats crisis, to provide more neighbourhood police officers to reduce anti—social behaviour and introduce new penalties for offenders to recruit 6500 more teachers. i mean , is this really teachers. i mean, is this really the look of our future government? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking mr starmer, the man, to save britain. well joining me now, political commentator peter spencen now, political commentator peter spencer, former labour adviser paul richards, political commentator stephen carlton—woods . all right. so i'm carlton—woods. all right. so i'm going to start with peter

spencen going to start with peter spencer. is sir keir starmer the man to save britain on. >> its asking rather a lot but i think he's in with a chance simply because at the very, very top of his list and it's overwhelmingly the biggest thing is economics , stability. if he is economics, stability. if he can convince big business that the economy is sound and is going to remain sound , then big going to remain sound, then big business will invest in the british economy. the british economy will grow and will be all, will all be in a better position to prosper. and i do make the point that, of course, rachel reeves, his shadow chancellor is in fact a former economist at the bank of england. and it's pretty obvious he has got the movers and in the city of london on side . i mean, city of london on side. i mean, it's interesting to note that on friday, the day after his big launch, right , friday, the day after his big launch, right, right leaning newspapers went with, jeremy hunfs newspapers went with, jeremy hunt's rebuttal. you know, the labour's tax bomb, essentially,

whereas the financial times, whose readers, after all, are movers and shakers in the city who require information rather than propaganda , stuck with the than propaganda, stuck with the starmer story. i mean , that's starmer story. i mean, that's one point you have. i got time for another small point. >> yeah. go on, give me a minute. another point. yeah. >> the other the other big thing, of course, is the nation's security. and i think about , the prime minister's about, the prime minister's speech earlier in the week when he promised to up spending on defence and given the putin and chinese price president axius later on in the week, that is a very timely warning. however, it's all very well for him to say i'll up spending and the labour party aren't promising the same thing. well, he can promise. he can promise apple pie. he can. he can promise free beer for the workers. he can promise pink cadillacs for all political correspondents because he probably won't be there. he probably won't be there, man. well, yeah, but you could say that about keir starmer could promise anything, which he has been doing in between because he

wasn't in power when he when he does come to power, if he comes to power, then we'll see how well his promises work. >> paul richards i'm loving the fact that peter spencer looks like he's in a caravan in cornwall. i didn't look, it does. you're right. it might be having a nice time. >> so the pledges are , serious. >> so the pledges are, serious. and they are, you know, addressing some of the big issues of our time. the small boats, our energy bills , the boats, our energy bills, the fact you can't walk down a high street without worrying about antisocial behaviour. but it's only just for starters, and if you look at the 1997 pledge card, of course, it didn't even have things like the national minimum wage on it. so labour is offering these up as first steps, but i think they all each of them does chime with something that's wrong with the country. and maybe to say storm is going to save britain might be hyperbole , but on the other be hyperbole, but on the other hand, it puts us on the right course, you know, growing economy with more jobs, more police, more teachers and cutting waiting lists in the nhs

. these are the bread and butter things that people really want, which i think why we're not complacent about the next election, but we do think that we are on the right course here and that people are looking afresh at labour, thinking maybe voting labour for the first time even voting labour for the first time ever, or maybe in decades, because we're now speaking to people's language , but some people's language, but some people's language, but some people might think that these are sort of quite vague and i don't know , stephen carlton—woods. >> well, i find this quite interesting, really, when you look at the language in it and the content within these six pledges, i think they are worried that they may , form worried that they may, form after form a government in november or towards the end of the year. but they're quite weak in the way that there's very little detail. and if you do compare them to 97, blair's, pledges , there's a lot less pledges, there's a lot less detail in them. and when you think about the criticism they put under the conservative government for the last few years, you'd think they'd have a

lot more to go at with, you know, a lot more hope for the for the british economy. but, just to use some of the language that you're using, it seems like they've borrowed it from the conservative party. and, and i think they're, they're quite worried about the direction they're going to go. and we've seen an over the gentleman that was saying about, jeremy hunt coming up with the, you know, the, backlash with all this. but when the conservative party did look at the figures on this and there's already a £385 look at the figures on this and there's already a £38.5 billion black hole at what rachel reeves reeves has, come up with. and, she did say that they wouldn't put anything forward that's not fully costed or funded. well, that's already backfired on them. >> well, paul's shaking his head. paul. head.paul >> well, no, there's nothing timid about a great british energy company. and not only is that something that the conservatives wouldn't do, it's actually something probably new labour wouldn't have done ehheni labour wouldn't have done either. i can't imagine blair putting that on the pledge card. it's a big, bold bit of state action to intervene in a in a in

action to intervene in a in a in a broken market to save people money on their bills and also green the energy supply so well. >> i'm glad you called. well, i'm glad you mentioned the green energy detail. well, i was i was just going to say that i'm glad you mentioned the green energy, because they had to backtrack because they had to backtrack because they had to backtrack because they were worried that it might destabilise the markets. remember that one? >> yes i do, yeah . >> yes i do, yeah. >> well, paul, do you remember that they the green energy 28 billion. they retracted it because it was the markets were worried about its stability. >> well indeed. but this isn't the same as that. this is a pledge specifically to build a new company that will save us all money on our bills and, you know, give the gb a lead in green technology and create jobs and apprenticeships along the way. and to say there's not specific things, i mean to say 6500 teachers is a very specific thing. you can be measured on that. you either do or you don't recruit 6500 teachers, 13,000 more cops. and while there either will be or there won't be. so it's very measurable. >> but isn't the trajectory of the population? isn't it sort of

going downwards rather than sort of upwards in terms of schools? so i mean, you know, you could have more teachers. i don't know, it all sounds a bit woolly andifs know, it all sounds a bit woolly and it's a nice idea, isn't it? over five years. >> it's the opposite of woolly. >> it's the opposite of woolly. >> it's the opposite of woolly. >> it's actually specific isn't it. >> it's a number that you can measure. so it is from the air. >> more like. i mean that's what i think. peter spencer, final word to you . word to you. >> stability is the key. i come back to it and of course, rishi sunakis back to it and of course, rishi sunak is a pretty stable character and a pretty savvy guy as well when it comes to spreadsheets and so on. but it's the tory red button thing, buccaneering boris. then we had loony liz , and he hasn't had loony liz, and he hasn't had long enough to really establish his. >> stephen, would you agree with that, that richard sunak hasn't really had long enough and, no. >> well, he did set out that , >> well, he did set out that, you know, measuring by, what he's done and achieved. so he's really sticking to that. and i think they're overperforming really from, the, the terrible mess that was happening a few years ago to where we are today. so, like harold wilson says, a

week is a long time in politics. we've still got a few months to go yet, and at the end of the day, angela rayner could turn out to be labour's achilles heel >> well, the mess you refer to was of their own making. and remember the conservatives, they've been in power for the last 14 years. covid wasn't our own making really, but but but before that it was still a bit, it was still going a bit wrong. but listen, thank you so much for your thoughts. political commentator peter spencer, former labour special adviser paul richards, political commentator. stephen carlton—woods. thank you. right this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we continue with the great british debate. this hour i'm asking is sir keir starmer the man to save britain? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy and matthew laza. but first let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler . latest news with sophia wenzler. >> nana. thank you. it's 532. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines thousand of people can now safely drink their tap water again. following a parasite outbreak. south west water has

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39 minutes after 5:00. welcome. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i am nana akua. it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is the keir starmer the man to save britain now? this week, the

labour leader unveiled the six key policies that he is going to enact in government delivering economic stability, cutting nhs waiting times, launching a new border command, setting up a publicly owned energy company , publicly owned energy company, cracking down on antisocial behaviour and recruiting 6500 teachers. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking ipso keir starmer the man to save britain. well, joining me now, my panel broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy , also columnist lizzie cundy, also former labour party adviser matthew laza i have to come to matthew laza i have to come to matthew first because obviously you are a former labour adviser, is he the man to save britain? >> yeah, absolutely. i think, and he's the man that the british people are putting their confidence in, as we saw in the results of the local elections just two and a bit weeks ago. so, yeah, i mean, but i think what's interesting about this week is he's not promising. he's got a magic wand because the country is in such a state. well, nobody could because the country is in such a state. >> it's not real. a magic wand isn't real. >> exactly. oh you shatter him. you're shattering my dreams now, lizzie . lizzie! nana. oh, now lizzie. lizzie! nana. oh, now i'm blushing . no, there isn't i'm blushing. no, there isn't there isn't aren't easy solutions. it's not the tommy

cooper politics just like that. he's not going to sort it all just like that. >> well, no, because he hasn't got a wand. >> you're just trying to put me off my stride. i'm not. right. so. so that was interesting because i'm old enough to remember the tony blair pledges the first time round, and they were much more gung ho. and the reason that these are called very interesting in the language is my first steps, because he's being realistic about what he can do in the first stages of a government. but we need to get the country back on track. and look, he you know, he hasn't got this big personality of blair, but he has got is that quiet competence and stability that you were talking about earlier. >> i get so fed up with this. my first steps into the i can't promise you much i will may raise taxes. >> no, no, no, we may cut taxes. no he's not going to raise taxes. >> lizzie cundy blah blah blah blah. >> you're going to say what? you didn't know what a woman is, aren't you, lizzie? >> or should i say blair? blair. blair. oh my word. >> good. very good. >> good. very good. >> we love it. rolled up sleeves. >> you might think you'd rehearsed that, lizzie. >> his white tight shirt showing rather too much, the only thing

he hasn't got with blair is that keir starmer talks like one of the darlings. he don't like that. and you kind of nearly nod off to sleep when he starts talking. let's not forget this man, has done 27 u—turns. >> have you been counting them? >> have you been counting them? >> yes, i've been counting everyone. and the recent 28 billion. don't forget, on the green investment and the only thing i feel we can trust him on is probably getting worn out flip flops. because he flip flops so much , and he's. and i'm flops so much, and he's. and i'm sorry he hasn't got the leadership qualities it makes. the speeches might be written by blair. he might try and look like blair, but he has not got the charisma of blair and there is no fanfare there is no great feeling. he's just go winning because of the awful, you know, default of the tory. >> neil kinnock did say that people aren't really in love with labour. yeah, he wouldn't love neil. >> he would know. yeah. and absolutely. and i love neil and he's right because i don't think people are in love with any i

think people are really hostile about politics. jeremy, at the moment, i think the public are really angry. but i disagree with lizzie. he's shown real leadership. keir starmer has shown real leadership in changing the labour party, and now he's ready to change. change, though are they absolutely. >> because he still saw the anti—semitism. exactly everything that people have gone. he couldn't say what a woman was. and then eventually he said it because he knew well, he said it because he knew well, he got embarrassed because, you know, if somebody starts asking you questions about about, you know, willie's on radio, it's not a real worry. >> what do you mean? as a woman for our next prime minister not to know what a woman is? that is a clear. and he could do all the straplines. he's like, now, you know, we had blair's new labour. now this is changed. labour. i'm sorry, he isn't tony blair. he has nothing. and i'm very worried about our next. no one else is there. >> i mean, look, there's nothing sir davey . sir davey. >> like i said, there's no one else. >> this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome some of our great british voices. their opportunity to be on and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. right let's see. how many of you have i got?

i've got four of you. right. i'm going to start with david baldwin. watford is he the man to save britain keir starmer are know i think at the moment it's anyone here. >> but i'd like to remind everybody back in 92 i can't hear you neil kinnock said i'm going to we're going to take power. he lost to john major theresa may nearly lost 20, lost 20% lead in the polls to jeremy corbyn. starmer has a personality of a wet flannel . personality of a wet flannel. and he every time look at ed miliband with his ten commandments. it's the same old rubbish each time, dressed up to what he thinks the public wants or what he thinks london voters want. he doesn't think about the north of england. he's not thinking about north down in cornwall. he's not even considering those because, hey , considering those because, hey, we don't count. >> well, he would argue that he thought keir would argue that he is and that he, you know, his policies cover everybody. but that's what he would say, isn't

it. all right. let's go to alan cook. alan cook in london. are you there ? you there? >> hi there. nana. yeah, but i'm not actually in london today. i'm at the mall london beach race in margate, so apologise if there's lots of noisy motorbikes in the background. i've taken a break from that just to come up and talk to you. >> come on, get on with it. you're losing time. keir starmer. >> is he the man to save the uk? well, save the uk from what, i where's it all going wrong? >> the debt, the crime, the flat economy . these are all being economy. these are all being caused by global socialism and net zero. so starmer is the leader of a naturally socialist party. so the worst case scenario we're going to get is the status quo. however, he's a weak leader . the status quo. however, he's a weak leader. he will be bullied by the far left. the marxist , by the far left. the marxist, the unionists. so actually, no, we can look forward to, a lot of wealth taxes, a lot more debt. we'll look forward to, a lot worse coming our way. if

somebody wins, i'm afraid. >> oh, god. doesn't sound great. let's go to nadia cenci. she's calling in ipswich. nadia, welcome , great to have you on welcome, great to have you on right now. what do you think? is he the person to save us? >> absolutely not. i think i agree with the previous speakers. he's no charisma , he's speakers. he's no charisma, he's no plan. but worst of all, he has no vision. >> what is his vision? >> what is his vision? >> he has changed his leadership launch 16 times because for the very reason that he doesn't have a vision, he has no strategy. >> he talks in output, small outputs. >> they mean nothing . >> they mean nothing. >> they mean nothing. >> they mean nothing. >> the people want change, i think, and they think, let's just try starmer. >> but they're going to be deeply disappointed . and that deeply disappointed. and that vision and that charisma is what is going to take the country forward and actually make some changes. forward and actually make some changes . and he has none changes. and he has none whatsoever. what is his vision on immigration? >> what is his vision on crime? >> what is his vision on crime? >> what is his vision on crime? >> what is his vision on nhs ? >> what is his vision on nhs? you know, tell me, i don't know . you know, tell me, i don't know. >> well, that's a good question.

we're all waiting bated breath. but unfortunately, if that's what we've got, that's what we've got. thank you very much. nadia chennai six, alan cook, david barbe , great, great david barbe, great, great british voices. but next it's clickbait. what happened when the former home secretary tried to engage with gaza protesters ? to engage with gaza protesters? well, you'll find out in just a moment. don't go anywhere.

welcome aboard. it's near the end of the show . now, this welcome aboard. it's near the end of the show. now, this is gb news. we're live on tv, online, and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. but moving on to a story that caught my eye today for my clickbait. this week, i wanted to take a look at how suella braverman got on when she tried to engage with gaza protesters at cambridge university. yes. it wasn't. they didn't say anything, did they ? anything, did they? >> hello. i'm just wondering if you'd like to have any kind of discussion at all with suella today. >> hi, i'm suella i'm keen to find out your views and what you're protesting about .

you're protesting about. >> nothing at all. >> nothing at all. >> no. interested in why you're covering your faces . is it a covering your faces. is it a covid or a health measure ? covid or a health measure? >> okay, so let's see what my panel make of that . matthew panel make of that. matthew laza. lizzie. cundy! lizzie cundy, quickly. >> oh how embarrassing. there's those students. supposed to be our brightest stars in the making. how embarrassing. absolutely appalling. >> matthew laza . >> matthew laza. >> matthew laza. >> yeah, i can tell you, when i was a student politician, i wasn't. it wasn't ever in a tent. but if tory minister had come up to me, i'd have taken them on in debate and not just sat there looking daft, pathetic. >> right now it's time for the quick fire quiz, the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the stories hitting the headunes some of the stories hitting the headlines right now. okay, lizzie cundy, your buzzer matthew laza your buzzer. question one please play along at home. labour has begun the process of choosing a new candidate in jeremy corbyn's constituency. but what year was he first elected as an mp? is it a 1987 b 1983 or c 1993 lizzie cundy a 1987 b 1983 1983. says matthew laza 1983 matthew laza.

i thought he would get that one nil right. question two. closest answer wins. how many households were infected by the contaminated water in devon ? contaminated water in devon? matthew laza, 30,000. lizzie cundy 29,000. 9000. the answer is 17,000. lizzie cundy one. oh, ihope is 17,000. lizzie cundy one. oh, i hope you got it home. question three keir starmer launched his six election pledges on thursday. what were they ? thursday. what were they? >> not all six. come on, great british energy , economic british energy, economic stability, five for five seconds. five for five. i can't name all six miles off my head. >> two. one. exactly >> two. one. exactly >> this is done to deliver the economy, crack down on antisocial behaviour. recent, there are 6500 new teachers deliver the economy, a new nhs unden >> labour here. you were right . >> labour here. you were right. you were right. of course it was the delivery. hang on. >> she didn't get bored of border control. >> i want a new border security command set up. great british energy, crack down on social behaviour. recruit 6500 new teachers. i'm going to take

that. >> when i worked for ed miliband, he had the pledges written on his arm. so he never forgot them. >> that says a lot. >> that says a lot. >> true or false? you. king charles was taught about reality tv show love island this week at a creative industries garden party. j0y a creative industries garden party. joy mathew. laughter. true, it was true . true, it was true. >> you could say false just oh well, well, i'll say false, but i'll say false. >> it's true. you are wrong. it is. matthew was right. right? of course . five. which country is course. five. which country is the most expensive for coffee in the most expensive for coffee in the world? is it a canada b denmark or c finland? matthew laza b denmark. >> lizzie cundy i'm going to go for a canada, a canada. >> the answer is denmark. mark matthew laza, you're taking two. >> two. no, it's two h is it. >> oh is it two h. oh okay. don't know. all right. fair enough. two each. listen to that. she's quite feisty right. it's two. all well done to them. right. so on today's show i've been asking rent caps. should they be introduced ? well, they be introduced? well, according to the twitter poll, just 36.7% of you say yes and 63% of you say no. thank you so

much to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza, and a huge thank you to you at home for your company today. i shall see you tomorrow. same time, same place. but up next it's time for the saturday five. do not go anywhere. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler is sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. sunny spells for some but heavy showers, especially in the south where they could turn thundery . looking at the thundery. looking at the pressure pattern, we've got higher pressure out towards the west , but notice the isobars west, but notice the isobars really spread out, indicating light winds. so across parts of wales and the south—west of england, we have got a weather warning in force for thunderstorms and slow moving showers. they'll gradually ease through the night elsewhere, turning largely dry, but we'll start to see low cloud once more

come in to northern parts and also across the east, holding up with temperatures around 10 or 11 degrees but feeling cooler in any clear spells , especially any clear spells, especially rural spots in the west. so to start sunday morning, quite a murky start for some of us with low cloud, mist and fog, especially across parts of the midlands , east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the southeast to start sunday morning with a few showers, maybe clipping cornwall elsewhere . further west. lots of elsewhere. further west. lots of bright sunshine to start sunday, but across parts of scotland, especially across eastern areas , especially across eastern areas, once again we're going to hold once again we're going to hold on to a lot of low cloud mist and fog with some light rain and drizzle across parts of orkney and shetland, so through sunday morning we should see that low cloud mist and fog gradually breaking up through the later half of the morning to leave many places with plenty of sunshine on offer, we'll hold on to cloudier conditions for parts of scotland and also down the north—east of england coast. that's where it will be feeling

cooler. but underneath all of the sunshine we will see temperatures reaching highs of up to 23, possibly even 24 degrees for the likes of the southeast through the rest of sunday evening. then plenty of late evening sunshine on offer to end the weekend. a few showers may be possible across scotland, but otherwise a dry evening. plenty of sunshine on offer on monday, but turning unsettled on tuesday and wednesday . wednesday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on

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