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toll. >> from abc news i ra >> good morning, welcome to "this week," donald trump began his rally for the 2024 campaign last night on a defiant note. joining in the chorus of the national anthem. trump depicted them and himself as victims of persecutions and double downed on his dangerous rhetoric ahead of a potential indictment by the manhattan district attorney. days after warning of a potential death and destruction of charge, trump barbed prosecutors leading investigation into him calling them quote, "human scum," there were death threats against the manhattan da and protest calls by trump can turn

violent. we'll cover it all this morning. we start in the south as the region prophbraces for more image, 26 are left dead and dozens injured and tens of thousands are without power. over night, president biden approved a major disaster declaration making federal relief funds available to the hardest hit areas. whit johnson is there in rolling fork with the latest. the mayor said the town of about 2,000 people was completely wiped off the map. >> reporter: martha, that's right, good morning to you. he said that most of the buildings throughout the town were destroyed, maybe a few left standing but those are uninhabitalble

as the son is coming up, i will try to paint this picture for you. this behind me is a lumberyard. right now it is all just been mixed together in this unrecognizable pile of debris and we are seeing this as far as the eyes can see. across the street, down the street. this was a 60-mile path that was cut from that one deadly ef4 tornado. ef4s are incredibly rare. only 1% of all tornados are all ef4s, they're that powerful. this is what we heard. they knew there was bad weather and they heard the warnings, they didn't have a lot of time to react. many of them were already in their homes and started to take shelter, what they didn't expect was this. they didn't expect when they were in their homes that the walls and the roofs and windows all around them would be ripped to shreds. that's why we see how deadly this storm was. we spoke with the mayor

here, he talked about not only the devastation wu the resilience of this community as well. we know that the search and rescue efforts are resuming this morning. they still have hope that if there is any buried they can find them alive. we noted as we arrived here this morning, somebody planted an american flag right in the middle of the rubble here. that's a signal of the strengths and the resilience the mayor insists. despite everything you see, martha, they'll rebuild. >> whit johnson, thank you to you. stay safe down there. we are joined by deana criswell. what's the latest you are hearing from your team about search and recovery efforts? >> good morning, martha, thanks so much for giving me an opportunity to talk to you. i am heading to mississippi right now because i want to be able to see first-hand.

the death toll risen by two and they're still very much in life-saving and life-sustaining mode. the first responders are doing such an amazing jobs. some which lost some of their homes themselves. we have teams that are coming in. they arrived last night and begin to help plan for and start the recovery process. >> what's the biggest priority for fema right now? >> the biggest priority for me is making sure that the local jurisdictions of first responders have all the resources that they need and second that we start to take care of these families. i know the american red cross is on the ground and stanning up shelters. these are temporary shelters. we know families lost everything. we need to work with them now and find out what that interim shelter is going to be and how do we support them for a longer term while they rebuild their own. >> to that point, you have seen those devastating images from rolling fork.

the mayor says the town is completely wiped out. so what are those jerez departments do? can they rally rebuild? >> it depens on the level of damage is. i want to hear from the mayor of what his residents need. everybody's situation is going to be individual and unique to them. we want to make sure we understand what their unique needs are and some of these communities, they are certainly some of the poorest communities in the state. we know we'll have to bring the full force of the federal family in there to help them. >> and i just want to point that we are looking at those images and those homes are wiped out. should they rebuild? >> again, everybody's situation is going to be really specific and unique to them. tornados like this is really hard to predict exactly where they're going to go. i think the one thing as

people start to think about rebilling is whether or not they can put a safe room and providing that level of protection. right now the most important thing is making sure people have a safe place to be when storms like this break out again in the future. >> there were tornado warnings in place but what about access to those warnings? warning sirens are not always reliable and in place. cell phones are good but 35% of the residents in the county lived below the federal poverty line and they may not carry cell phones, how are they supposed to be warned? >> it is something that we have to continually look to do to better inform people. i know there were sirens and i know some sirens went off. sirens are one of the best tools that we do have to give a widespread of warnings to people quickly, especially when you have nocturnal tornados like this that happens when people are

asleep. how they would have better gotten this message because we have to always work giving people early warnings so they can take action so they have enough time to take action to protect themselves and their families. >> thanks so much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. safety travels. >> thank you, martha. to politics now. donald trump returns to the campaign trail last night in waco, texas, for his first rally of the 2024 campaign, sounding off about prosecutors and the manhattan district attorney's office and the looming threat of an sdiement. indictment. >> the weaponization of our justice system is not as some have called it a political spectacle. this is the central issue of our time. >> senior investigative reporter is standing by the

courthouse and laura manhattan with the latest on the investigation. let's turn to our senior correspondent, rachel scott, in texas. good morning. >> reporter: donald trump is as defiant as ever making it clear any possible indictment will not stand in the way of him running for president. the former president really leaning into his troubles making it the focus of his campaign message last night. you heard him telling reporters that the social issue of our time is quote, "weaponization of our justice system. the presidential cycle begins to take shape and trump spends much more time focusing on the challenges surrounding him and the issues, martha. >> trump pulls no punches going after his top rival, florida governor desantis. > trump took credit for desantis' political success

and saying he got him elected in 2018. as for the florida governor, he's out touring these key florida states and testing the water. sources tell us he would likely announce he's running for president after the legislative session ends in florida in may. trump is making one thing very clear. if desantis is in, he sees him as his biggest threat, martha. >> thank you, rachel. let's turn now to erin and trump's rhetoric over indictment of hush money lead a real bragg. >> trump predicted he would be indicted by now and the next chance that could happen comes tomorrow. >> new york city courts are stepping up security as the

grand jury is expected to return on monday to hear president trump how he was indicted of payments to stormy daniels. trump's rhetoric about the case and the prosecutors have put the courthouse behind barriers and compelled alvin bragg to of his own security. reassuring his staff they would not be intimidated. after falsely claiming he would be arrested last tuesday, trump made an ominous claim about the consequences of an indictment writing on social media could result on potential death and destruction. on friday, a letter addressed to bragg contained a death threat and a letter saying "alvin, i am going to kill you." >> it is dangerous and if he keeps it up, he's going to get someone killed. we have seen the

consequences of incitement from the former president. >> the judge rejected executive privilege claims and ordered mark meadows and other top trump aides to testify. there are new developments of trump's handling classified materials after he left the white house. jack smith successfully brought to bring trump's attorney before a grand jury on washington on friday. sources told abc news the special counsel believes tru tru tru trump misled his lawyers of classified documents. a judge was convinced there was preliminary evidence that trump may have used kron. the new york case centered around falsifying business

records may seem less consequential. it involves the charge brought by the manhattan district attorney. >> once the grand jury reconvenes here will do so under tighter security and could hear from one additional witness. >> erin, thank you. let's break down these cases now with our experts, abc news chief legal analyst dan abrams and the assistant dean of school of affairs and our special fbi agent. dan, let me start with you, as we heard all eyes are on the manhattan da this week. the case seems to hinge on a legal theory that's never been used in new york. how risky is th >> it is risky for a number of reasons. the new theory of getting it from a misdemeanor to a felony. the reason that's novel and

difficult has not been quite done in this way before. but, there is also another factor here which is this is just not a misdemeanor case they're trying to get into a felony. it is also a seven-year-old. case. the federal prosecutors decided not to move forward with. when people say to me sometimes, well, this had been me, i would have been prosecuted for sure. my response is, if this had been you, i don't know if seven years later they would have revisited this misdemeanor and try to turn it into a felony. it is a challenging legal theory. they may be able to do it, but there are problems here. >> usher, what problems do you see? >> martha, it depends on which legal theory they choose. if the manhattan da's o

tries to tie it to a campaign violation, i believe with dan that they can encounter some legal issues. there is a pathway where the da could tie this to the trump organization's business practices and in particular tax fraud. this is the same legal theory that they used to prosecute the trump organization. they had a window into the trump organization business practices through that trial which is maybe why they have resurrected this case, it is been known as the zombie case because it came back to light. it could be on stronger footing if they go down the road of tax violations that impacts the state of new york. >> i want to stay with you, you were an fbi agent and when you hear donald trump's rhetoric and he's calling for protests and warning for potential death or destruction, how does law enforcement prepares for that?

>> well, at this point, we know that he has some followers who may act on his rhetoric. after the search at mar-a-lago last august, there were someone that showed up at the fbi office with an ar15. someone else crashed into a barricade at the u.s. capitol. so, i think the problem here is going to be the potential for lone wolf violence. i don't think there is going to be the kind of organized protests that we saw on january 6th. but, i think that they do need to prepare for that and we need to also look out for this information vacuum that may exist between the time that the da is negotiating the surrender and when the charges are actually made public and that's a time when trump can really, you know, spin and say what he wants without the manhattan da being able to respond and correct the record. that's what i think they'll need to prepare for.

>> dan, let's turn to that case, how significant could the testimony of trump's lawyer be? >> i think that case is a much more significant one. we also can't underestimate how important it is that a court required his lawyer to testify. that almost never happens here. when a court rules and appellate court upheld is what called this crime fraud exception. meaning the legal advice that was given, was given in furtherance of a crime. they already determined that. that's the only reason the lawyer is being required to testify where the attorney/client privilege is being pierced. just that, makes it already a big deal as to where we are in that case, and so regardless of exactly what the testimony was of his lawyer, the fact that the court and now the courts

have determined that there was a crime. that legal advice was given in furtherance of it already tells you a lot of where that investigation is. >> and also make clear of the difference between donald trump's case and mike pence and joe biden, regarding classified documents. >> absolutely. by piercing that attorney/client privilege, what prosecutors have is the opportunity have to demonstrate that trump actively lied and misled his lawyers and trying to prevent law enforcement from getting to them. this stands a starke contrast to the full cooperation of both the vice president and president biden in terms of over documents. it is easier to distinguish why trump's case is prosecuted and theirs is not. >> dan, quickly if you could. trump faces a very real threat of being indicted in

georgia? >> yes. that's another potential serious case related to overturning of the election. we expect to hear from the fulton county da any day now. a special grand jury which is an advisory grand jury there clearly advised and suggested that there be charges in connection with that case as well. >> thanks to you both for joining us. the roundtable is coming up. after tiktok's ceo is grilled on capitol hill, is congress ready to ban this app. our committee taking on china, next. with operations in scotland, technologists in india, and customers all on different systems. you need to pull it together. so you call in ibm and red hat to create an open hybrid cloud platform. now data is available anywhere, securely.

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that didn't seem to stop them, what more should we be doing? >> well, i think we should be concerned of our deterrent posture of iran is crumbling. we can't afford another return like that. some practical steps going forward to reimpose a policy of maximum economic pressure, a ban to attempt to resuscitate comprehensive plan of action. a report on the u.s./israeli technology group which should have a practice proposal how we can turbo charge against the israelis and help us to better defend the threat. very concerning, more we need to do and we need to have a clear idea of the regime we are facing in teheran. >> congresswoman

krishnamoorthi. why is this happening if we are there to fight isis? >> well, i think we are kind of targets of opportunity for iranian back malicious. we are not going anywhere. we have to stay in northern syria and work with our partners in iraq as well and fighting isis. i think the biden administration did exactly what it had to do in responding to these iranian malicious. i believe there had been 78 attacks during the trump administration and now the biden administration. unfortunately, we are going to have to deal with them appropriately but we are not leaving that part of the world as we deal with isis. >> and congressman gallagher, another subject, vladimir putin also announced yesterday that russia will be deploying weapons to ukraine neighbor, belarus, how concerned are you about that?

>> putin have engaged since the start of this crisis. it is something to be concerned about. we should not allow his threat to deter us. we can't allow that to be a cause for delaying critical weapon system that we need to deliver to the ukrainians. broadening this out, we need to understand that putin is xi jinping's junior partner. he's xi's agent of chaos and goat in europe. if we try to separate these problem sets, we'll result in a geo political posture that's in-effective. they're trying to undermine us. we ave to ups what we are up against and make sure we are rearming so we can learn lessons from ukraine and apply them to places like east asia, for example. >> let's turn to tiktok's ceo,

congressman did anything he say created concerns? >> i will point to a few things, one is that he was not willing to call what the chinese employees at byte dance did in spying on american journalists and citizens as being spying. everybody was scratching their head when he actually said that. he also was unwilling to acknowledge there is a genocide going on with regarding to people. and bowing pressure to this chinese pressure. project texas is a mess. whatever tiktok management is say about project texas

is a pack of lies and that even when they erected this firewall, supposed firewall with regards to data of american users, these chinese employees at byte dance, the parent company were able to spy on american journalists. so, unfortunately, i don't think he did tiktok any favors through his testimony. >> congressman gallagher, how likely is it that there will be a ban? >> well, i actually think after that hearing and that same day on capitol hill, there were two other hearings related to china including the hearing we held relating to the uighur genocides. the only reason that would explain his evasiveness is fear of angering hi his overlord in the chinese

party. we have the -- that's missing from project texas is mitigation strategy is control of the algorithm. that's what we need to address. it is not just ex filtrating data from american phones. it is what they are able to push through americans through the algorithm and control our sense of reality, control the news, meddle in future elections. they united republicans and democrats out of concerns of controlling the most dominate platform in america. >> congressman, there are hundreds of millions of tick knock users, the senator said, if tiktok is banned, you are going to literally lose every voter under 35. your response? >> in this particular case, we have to recognize while

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you will see some numbers that are incredible. you will see some numbers - we had one today, 69 for trump and i think 18 or 19 for the d >> you can call me whatever you want but just as long as you can call me a winner because what's what we have been able to do in florida. >> they're already squaring off. let's bring in our roundtable, donna brazile and alex burns and new york times national political reporter, astead our spokesperson and now a spokesperson on abc. alex burns. i don't know if you have watched it but i am sure you heard of the pledge allegiance and the january 6th singing the national anthem. it was a look back

grieva grievance. >> first of all, i watched it. from 6:00 p.m. until 7:45 p.m. i watched it. of course, look, donald trump yesterday played the victim card. he played all of his grievances the best of donald trump with a little bit of sprinkling of what he's been talking about lately which is i am being prosecuted, come to my defense, i need your help. the whole thing with the fingers and the hands. it is despicable what he's doing. donald trump is a leading front runner in the republican primary. leading front runner. there is no one close to him. although desantis tried to catch up, but he's the front runner and for the front runner of a major political party to incite his crowd the way he's doing, it should be condemned by

everyone. there is no place in america for the kind of political violence he's projecting with these upcoming court cases. >> were you surprised by any of it? >> no, i mean it is certainly different than what we saw at this point in 2015. donald trump in 2015 was running as the changed candidate and she was not tied to any record and was able to say whatever he wanted about the problems people had and how he was going to solve them. this was different than the 2023 trump we are seeing. you are seeing desantis pursuing a different strategy from what we saw in 2016 candidate. in 2016, every candidate was trying to be that person who would be up against trump. you don't have that this time because the dynamic of trump and desantis turned antonio a binary race, it looked like the clinton and barack obama primary in

2008. you have desantis not allowing trump to flank him on any issues and trying to draw the contest that he's the winner and donald trump lost so many races. >> i think to sarah's point of the 2008 comparison at this point, barack obama had been in the race for more than a month. when you start off behind a universally known candidate, you got to get in the ring, right? i think we'll hear more and more from republicans in washington of this anxiety there was this window right after the midterm where it was totally mainstream and widely discussed view in the republican party that donald trump really blew it and maybe it was time for somebody else. that window is not that it is closed but it may be a little narrower than it was three or four months ago. when desantis gets in, it may be a slightly harder fight than it would have been eight or 12 weeks ago.

>> and we had desantis, let's go back to florida here. he announced the expansion of the controversial law "don't say gay" to all grades now. >> is that going to help him? >> this is a fight he's intentionally picking. we have seen him use the governor's office for this kind of set plays to pick and choose of the cultural war he wants to see the friendly media he wants to get on fox news and that's how he raised his profile away. his position in ukraine is one that he had to walk back over the last couple of weeks and created daylights for other candidates like mike pence and nikki haley to try to take a slice from him. desantis is doing a careful dance trying to speak to the maga space of donald trump while looking at the broader republican electorate. it is a grievance value but

he's not going to calibrate based on what he thinks he has to work around the base with. other candidates pulling from desantis in a different way that we see him be on the defensive in the last couple of weeks. that speaks to alex's point that he may have missed. >> sarah, are these good thing for them that didn't hit off in the midterm? >> you can argue that the school issues and the crime issues were incredibly effective. in 2022, you didn't see it work for those candidates that made it much more about revisiting the 2020 election, much more about donald trump. so, i am not sure we quite know how the issues actually will fair with candidates who are pursuing them like a glen youngkin, i think desantis is threading that

needle incredibly well on those issues for a republican primary. at this point, donna said, donald trump is the prohibited front runner in the polling. the national polling does not matter. what's going to matter if donald trump loses big in iowa and goes to new hampshire and can't hold on. this whole thing is different. >> donna, let's not leave out joe biden here. what he's doing and angered some democrats is moving to the center. >> i don't think so. i know people believe that the decision on d.c., iing thout it was really terrible decision. support home ruling and there was no need to interfere in local affairs. on immigration and some of the others -- >> new oil drilling. >> d trying to make sure the united states remaining competitive and he blocked off a lot of federal land for conservation efforts. look, joe biden this tuesday will start to invest in an american tour where he's going to spend the next two or three weeks along with his members of the cabinet and the vice president,

they're going to begin to talk directly to the american people on the anxieties and concerns that everyday americans have. i want to say something, this is the republicans going through another round of silly season. it does not matter what happened in virginia. to begin, basically outlaw drag queens. they had somebody going on a drag show to see if there were drag queens. if you want to learn how to dance, come to my house. don't wait for a queen. come on, i will invite you over. ron desantis is running on a 1950s america. not a 2050 america. the america of the future. i think joe biden will have a good advantage going into 2024. >> i think for his first two years when he had unified democratic control of congress, he did an awful

careful job cranking that fog machine. now, he's facing a divided congress and facing emboldened some ways our republican party is on the hill and he's looking for a fight in reelection that's not going to be easy assuming that he does run. yeah, he's trying to minimize his political vulnerability on energy and crime. the risk to republicans and donna and sarah talking about the virginia election in 2021, what worked so well for youngkin into families about the way education works about the height of the pandemic and the fear of their crimes. when you are talking about drag queens and school curriculum choices, i am not sure if that speaks to pa parents and families in the

political middle. the risk of the gop is you are spending time on these niche kind of internet right-wing issue. >> there is a difference. two for what the glen youngkin was thinking about the election in virginia. unfortunately, for that audience, we see those internet culture war pick and choose your grievance issue really rise to the top. cpac was a this year. you see that reflected in all the candidates' language. not just donald trump and not just desantis but when mike pompeo and tim scott, someone that's suppose to be an inspirational type figure in the republican party reflects the kind of grievance-driven and fear

and motivating a lot of the republican base. and certainly there is a gap where that is and what we saw many the midterms, these folks are thinking of the republican primary where that's a plurality of where the electorate is. >> you do talk to a lot of people across the country about this. let's turn to donald trump's legal problems. do you think he has said in the past that he thought that would help him if he was indicted? do you think it will and particularly with independents, how will day see that outside of the hard core? >> i think that when you talk about independents and outside the hard core, the picture is much worse for donald trump. it is undeniable that there is a legitimate backlash to folks thinking not only there is generally too much drama which is the lane that desantis is trying to take. there is a legitimate feeling of a criminal element that deserves to be indicted and a smallment of polling we see on this and

alvin bragg's decision have thought this could be believable. it is something you can see donald trump doing. the thing is back to the point of the audience, donald trump is using the language of victim hood more broadly about himself. this is the republican party that's becoming victims on every level of the federal government. the doj and fbi, they're saying this prosecution is another instance of that. for the hard cores, it will stay for the independents, i don't think so much. >> sarah, you worked in the justice department and you're watching all of this. alvin bragg is demanded to testify. >> this is the problem where both sides believe that the other side already broke the rules. you have the left saying donald trump has broken all the norms, and undermined all the rule of law. it is okay if we bring sort of charges that don't really work that are boot strapped as dan was saying earlier in the show because he's guilty of stuff, right?

cut down all the laws in england to get to the devil. republicans are saying look, they undermine the rule of law so we have to do what we need to do to precht precht them. it is a dangerous thing that we have seen over and over again. a lot to watch going forward. thank you for joining us today. coming up, 20 years after the u.s. invaded iraq, two veterans reflect on the war's lasting legacies. stay with us. lected the war's lasting legacy. stay with us. shingles. some describe it as pulsing electric shocks or sharp, stabbing pains. ♪ this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older, ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. and we're done. hm, what about these?

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helicopter in 2004, she lost both her legs and injured her arm. >> i thought i deserved it and i failed as a pilot and i did not serve honorably and according to my training. sorry - and, my husband caught me crying in my hospital bed when realized i was awake. i said to him, you know, i could barely talk. i said i crashed the air traffic. it is my fault. he said, no, you didn't. no, you landed the aircraft. i started - really? i have been fine ever since. >> that was more important than anything knowing that you didn't cause it. >> knowing i did my job when the ship were down and as a pilot, i didn't let my crew down. >> when president george w. bush announced the invasion of iraq. >> these are opening stages of will be abroad and

concerted campaign. >> duckworth did not support the reasons behind the war but never hesitated going into combat. >> i was proud to go because it was my job as a soldier to obey all lawful orders and this was a lawful order. >> was your sacrifice, this nation's sacrifice worth it? >> my sacrifice is with the constitution of the united states and always worth it. >> congressman crenshaw deployed to iraq in 2012. >> when you look back on the decision to go into iraq that george bush made. what did you think? >> it is a complicated situation. it is super easy to look back in time and said oh, i could have done it better. 2020 hindsights are a wonderful thing. mistakes are made. you can't talk about the counter facts. crenshaw was in iraq from 2008 and 2010, watching as

the u.s. began to draw down troops. >> by 2010, i am leaving the platoo platoon. we did run into some warfare at times. it was nothing like 2006 and nothing like i have faced in 2012 in afghanistan. >> three years later, isis swept in filling the gap left behind by the u.s. >> 2014, we are back. >> yes. >> do you think that's pretty easy to see? >> yeah, it was painfully obvious and all of these bad guys we were tracking, they're always in syria and on the eastern side of syria. that was their safe haven. pretty obvious that they were laying and it was american presence that was keeping them there. we were in a stable place by the end of 2000. it should have been a

lesson. >> both crenshaw and duckworth say there many le lessons to learn about war from their own experiences cht >> we better know the parameter and what the end goal of the fight will be, so that we are not stuck there for decades with no off ramp. >> you don't prevent it by being weak and let people bully you around and don't wait until the last minute to act. >> despite the outcome of these wars, their own injuries and those thousands of veterans still endured, they both remained immensely proud of their service. >> i look back and think it is the best experience of my life. it is the time of my life where i don't regret for a second even with the missing eye. we are volunteer force and we go to do the bidding of the united states. i don't want anyone to feel sorry for us or me, because of my injuries, i told to do

what i did. >> like a lot of soldiers, if you ask me to do it again i would do all over again because i gained so much more. >> our thanks to all of our veterans and their families. we'll be right back.

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