stephanopoulos starts right now. leglegal peril. >> the two leaduts, absolute human scum. rhetoric as he faces his his - mounting legal danger and the potential indictment. >> what we see before us is not equal justice. >> if he keeps it up, he's going to get someone killed. >> this morning, rachel scott with the latest development, stan abrams analyzed trump's legal jeopardy and our power house roundtable. >> major show down. >> the united states does not seek conflict with iran.

one american contractor dead. as u.s. china tension rise on capitol hill over the popular social media app, tiktok. >> your platform should be banned. all the fall-out with congressman gallagher. . >> deadly tornados. >> at least 26 dead. >> dozens more injured after powerful storms ripped through the south. the latest on the devastation with fema's administrationer deadea deadeanne criswell. >> was this nation's sacrifice worth it? >> my sacrifice is with the united states. it is always worth it. >> two veterans reflecting on the war, their service and their lasting toll. from abc news, it is "this

week," martha raddatz. >> good morning and welcome to "this week," donald trump began his rally of the 2024 campaign on a defiant note with a hand over his heart while a massive screen shows images of the january 6th riot with those in prison taking part in it joining in the chorus of the national an testimony. trump detected them and himself as victims of political persecution and doubling down on his dangerous rhetoric ahead of a potential indictment by the manhattan district attorney. days after warning of potential charge, trump barbed prosecutors and calling them quote, "human scums," there were death threats against the manhattan da this week and fears protest called by trump can turn violent. we'll cover it all this morning

but we'll start in the south as the region braces for more severe storms after tornados where i happened through mississippi. a live image of the trail of destruction that spanned nearly 100 miles long and left at least 26 dead. dozens more injured and tens of thousands without power. over night, president biden approved a major disaster declaration making federal relief funds available to the hardest hit areas. whit johnson is there with the latest. the mayor says the town about 2,000 people was completely wiped off the map. >> reporter: martha, that's right. good morning to you. most of the buildings throughout the town were destroyed. those are uninhab take a look behind me. i will try to paint this picture for you.

this behind me was a lumberyard. a few neighborhoods made up of trailer homes, that's where some of the fatalities occur. right now is all just mixed together in this unrecognizedable pile of debris. we are seeing this as far as the eyes can see, across the street and down the street. this was a 60-mile path that was cut from the ef4 tornado. ef4s are incredibly rare. only 1% of all tornados are all e eef4s, this is what we heard from the community. they knew it was bad. many of them are already in their homes and started to take shelter. they didn't expect this. they didn't expect when they're in their homes, the walls and roofs and windows all around them would be ripped to shreds. you noted that we spoke with the mayor here. not only the devastation, he talked about the resilience of

this community as well. we know the search and rescue efforts are resuming this morning. they still have hopes that if anybody is buried they could find them alive. this live shot this morning, somebody planted an american flag right in the middle of the rubble here. that's a signal of the strengths and resilience that the mayor insists despite everything you see, martha, they'll rebuild. >> whit johnson, thank you to you, stay safe down there. >> we are joined by fema administrator, deana criswell. what's the latest you are hearing from your team about search and recovery effort? >> good morning, martha, thank you so much forgiving me an opportunity to talk to you today. i am heading to mississippi right now. i want to be able to see first-hand of the impacts of some of these communities have had. i know from yesterday's morning, the death toll have risen by two and there is still very much in

life-saving and sustaining mode. the first responders on the ground are doing an amazing job. some have lost some of their home themselves. we have teams that is are coming in. they arrive last night and more coming in today to help plan for and start the recovery process. >> what's the biggest priority for fema right now? >> the biggest priority for me is making sure that the local jurisdictions of those first responders have all those resources they need. the second we start to take care of these families. i know the american red cross is on the ground, standing up shelters and these are temporary shelters. we know families lost everything. we need to work with them and find out what that interim shelter solution is going to be and how do we support them for a longer term while they rebuild their own. >> to that point, you have seen those devastating images from rolling fork. the mayor says the town is completely wiped out.

what are those residents do? can they really rebuild? >> it just depends on what their level of damage is. that's one of the reasons i am going there today. i know i am going to be able to talk to the mayor and i want to hear what his residents need. everybody's situation is going to be individual and unique to them. so, we want to make sure we understand what their unique needs are and some of these communities, they are certainly some of the poorest communities the the state. we know we are going to bring the full force of the federal family in there to come help them. >> i want to point out that we are looking at those images and those homes are completely wiped out. should they every situation is unique to them. the one thing as people start to thi think thithink of

thi think thithink rebuilding i the safe protection, right now the most important thing is making sure people have a safe place to be when storms like this break out the future. >> what about access to those warnings? warning sirens are not always reliable or in place even and cell phones are good of course but 35% of the residents in the county lived below the federal poverty line and they may not carry cell phones with the warning system. how are they supposed to be warned? >> i think it is something that we have to continue to look at what we can do to better inform people. we know there are sirens and i know some sirens did go off. i don't have the exact picture where they went off. sirens are one of the best tools that we have to give a widespread of warnings to people quickly.

>> okay, thanks so much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. safe travels. >> thank you, martha. to politics now. donald trump returns to the campaign trail in waco, texas, for his first rally of the 2024 campaign, sounding off about prosecutors and the manhattan district attorney's office and the threat of indictment. >> the weaponization of our justice system is not as some have called it a political spectacle. this is the central issue of our time. >> senior investigative reporter is standing by the courthouse in manhattan with the latest on the investigation. let's turn to our

congressional rachel scott right there in texas. good morning, rachel. >> reporter: martha, good morning, donald trump is as defiant as ever. making it clear that any possible indictment will not stand in the way of him running for president in 2024. the former president really leaning into his legal troubles, making it essential focus of his campaign message last night. you heard thim there telling his supporters that the central issue of our time is the quote, "weaponization of our justice system," presidential election cycles begin to take shape. trump is spending much more time focusing on the challenges surrounding him. >> trump also pulls no punches going after his top rivals in the 2020, primary race, florida, desantis. >> he took credit for desantis' success saying he got elected governor in

2018. he went onto say he's not as big fan of desantis. the florida governor, we know he's out touring these key states and testing the water, pitching florida as a conservative model for the rest of the country. he's likely announced for president after the legislative session ending in may. trump makes it clear, if desantis is in, he sees him as his biggest threat. >> thank you, let's turn now to erin. trump's rhetoric over those hush money payments have led to real threats targeting the manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg. >> there is been multiple threats and with trump pressing these verbal attacks, the courthouse is increasing their security. >> new york city courts are stepping up security as the grand jury is expected to return monday to hear evidence of how former president trump accounted for a hush payment to porn

actress stormy daniels. it is the most -- hostile rhetoric of the case and the prosecutors have put the courthouse behind metal barriers and hold bragg from security. trump made an ominous claim about the consequences of an indictment, writing on social media, it could result in potential death and destruction. on friday, a letter addressed to bragg contained a death threat saying "alvin, i am going to kill you" and a white powder that was deemed >> it is dangerous, if he keeps it up, he's going to get someone killed. we have seen the consequences of incitement

from the former president trump. >> the judge rejected executive privilege claims and ordered the chief of staff mark meadows and other top trump aides to testify. there are new development of trump's handling classified materials after he left the white house. jack smith fought to bring trump's attorney before a grand jury in washington on friday. sources told abc news this special counsel believes trump intentionally misled his lawyers of classify of markings, while attorney client privilege shielded lawyers from testifying, a judge was convinced that there was preliminary evidence to advance criminal schemes and comparing to those investigations and implications of doks si. democracy. it may be closest to resolution and involves the kind of charge routinely

brought by the manhattan district attorney. >> once the grand jury reconvenes here will do so under tighter security and could hear from one additional witness. martha. >> eric, thank you. let's break down these cases now with our experts, abc news chief legal analyst, dan abrams and also a former fbi special agent, thank you for joining us this morning. dan, let me start with you, as we heard all eyes are on the manhattan da this week. the case seems to hinge on a legal theory that's never been used in new york. how risky is this? >> look, it is risky for a number of reasons. the new theory is in getting it from the misdemeanor to the felony. they're kind of jerry-rigging it to some degree. the reason that's novel and difficult has not been quite done exactly in this way before.

there is also another factor here, which is this is not just a misdemeanor case that they're trying to get into a felony. it is also a seven-year-old case. it is also a case that two other sets of prosecutors, the previous da and the federal prosecutors decided not to move forward with. when people say to me sometimes, well, this had been me, i would have been prosecuted for sure. my response is if this had been you, i don't know if seven years later they would have revisited this misdemeanor and try to turn it into a felony. it is a challenging legal theory, they may be able to do it, but there are >> what problems do you see? >> martha, i think that it depends on which legal theory they choose. so, if the manhattan da's office tries to tie it to a state or federal campaign violation, i do agree with dan that they can encounter

some significant issues. there is a pathway where the da can tie this to the trump organization business practices and in particular tax fraud. this is the same legal theory they used to prosecute the trump organization. they had a window into the trump organization business practices through that trial, which is maybe why they are resurrected this case. it is been known as the zombie case because it came back to light. that could be what's changed and on stronger footing if they go down the road of tax violations that directly impacts the state of new york. >> i want to stay with you, you were an fbi special agent. when you hear donald trump's rhetoric, he's called for protests and warn of potential death and destruction. how do law enforcement prepare for that? >> well, at this point, we know that he has some

followers who may act on his rhetoric after the surge at mar-a-lago last august. there were several that showed up with an ar15. someone else crashed into a barricade at the u.s. capital. so, i think the problem here is going to be the potential for lone wolf violence. i don't think there will be organized protests that we saw on january 6th, but i think they do need to prepare for that and we need to also look out for this information vacuum that may exist between the time that the da is negotiating to surrender. when the charges are actually made public and that's a time when trump can really, you know, spin and say what he wants without the manhattan da really being able respond or correct a record. that's what i think they'll need to prepare for. >> dan, let's turn to that document case, how

significant could the testimony of trump's lawyer be? >> see, i think that's case is a much more significant one. we also can't underestimate how important it is that a court has required his lawyer to testify. that almost never happens here. when a court rules and appellate court upheld is what's called this crime fraud exception. the legal advice was given in furthurance o they already determined that. that's the only reason the lawyer is required to testify. just that makes it already a big deal as to where we are in that case and so regardless of exactly what the testimony was of his lawyer, the fact that the court and now the courts have determined that there was a crime, that legal

advice was given already tells you a lot of where the investigation is. >> and make clear of the difference between donald trump's case and of mike pence's and joe biden's regarding classified documents. >> absolutely. i think that by pearcing that attorney/client privilege, what prosecutors have is the opportunity to demonstrate that trump actively lied and misled his own lawyers and knew that he still had these classified documents and really try to prevent law enforcement from getting to them. this stands and a starke contrast to the full cooperation of the vice president and president biden in terms of turning over documents. i think would be easier to distinguish why trump's case is prosecuted and theirs is not. >> dan, quickly if you could. trump is facing a real threat of being indicted in georgia.

>> yeah, that's another serious case related to overturning of the election. and we expect to hear from the fulton county da any day now. an advisory grand jury there, clearly has already advised, suggested that there be charges in connection with that case as well. >> thanks to you both for joining us. the roundtable is coming up, plus, after tiktok's ceo was grilled on capitol hill, is congress ready to ban the popular social media app. our interview with the leaders of the house committee taking on china, next. with operations in scotland, technologists in india, and customers all on different systems. you need to pull it together. so you call in ibm and red hat to create an open hybrid cloud platform. now data is available anywhere, securely. and your digital transformation is helping find new ways to unlock energy around the world.

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lawmakers on capitol hill hammering tiktok's ceo. joining me now is jerry gallagher. we'll get to tiktok in a moment. congressman gallagher, you are on the armed services committee. i want to start by asking you of the attacks and syria left service members wounded. the biden administration retaliated with airstrikes targeting iranian back

malicious believed to be responsible but that did not seem to stop them. what more should we be doing? >> i think we should be concern that our deterrence from iran is crumblig. reimpose a policy of economic pressure and resuscitates the comprehensive plan of action and force the pentagon to deliver something which is the report on the u.s. of technology working group which should have practical proposal of how we can turbo charge with the israelis and help them defend against the threat of missiles. so, very concerning, more we need to do and we need to have a clear idea of the regime we are facing in teheran. >> congresswoman, the 900 american service members and hundreds of contractors in syria, they're supposed to be part of an anti-isi

mission. why is this happening if we are there to fight isis? >> i think we are targets of opportunity for these iranians. we are not going anywhere. we have to stay in northern syria and work with our partners in iraq as well and fighting isis. i think the biden administration did what it had to do in responding to these iranian malicious. i believe there had been 78 attacks during the trump administration and now the biden administration. unfortunately, we are going to have to deal with them appropriately but we are not leaving that part of the world as we deal with isis. >> and congressman gallagher, russia president putin announced that russia will be deploying tactical weapons to belarus. how concerning are you on that? >> putin has engaged since the start of this crisis, it

is something to be concerned about. we should not allow his threats to deter us. we can't allow that to be a cause of delay, critical weapon some that we need to deliver to the ukrainians. i think broadening is out, we need to understand that putin's xi jinping's jr. partner. if we try to separate these problem sets, i think we'll result in a gio political posture that's in effective. these are countries that trying to undermine us. we have to understand what we are up against and make sure we are rearming so we can learn lessons from ukraine and apply them to places like east asia, for example. >> let's turn to tiktok shou zi chew's testimony. he pushed back and initiatives they called

project texas. congressman, did anything he say persuade your concerns? >> no, it did not. i think it created more concerns quite frankly. i will point to a few things. one is that he was not willing to call what the chinese employees at byte dance did and spying on american journalists and citizens as being spies. everyone was scratching their heads when he said that. he was unwilling to acknowledge that there is a genocide going on with regards of the uighur people in the northwest corner of china. again, bowing to pressure from this chinese communist party and finally, you know, there is a saying don't mess with texas. project texas is a mess. their whistle blowers coming forward saying whatever the tiktok management is saying about project texas is a pack of lies. even when they erected this

firewall with regards to data of american users, these chinese employees of byte dance, the parent company were able to spy on american journalists. so, unfortunately, i don't think that he did tiktok any favors to his testimonies. >> how likely is it that there will be a ban? >> i think after that hearing and that same day on capitol hill there were two other hearings related to china including to the hearing we held on the largest ethnic religious entournament of the holocaust. the only reason were explained of his evasiveness is fear. i think this actually increase the likelihood that congress will take some action. we have the only bipartisan, bicameral bill that'll allow for either ban.

the key part that's missing from project texas is mitigation strategies is control of the algorithm. that's what we need to address. it is not just ex filtrating data from an american phone. it is what they are able to push through americans and through the algorithm and control our sense of reality and control the news and meddle in futures election. >> and congressman, there are 150 million tiktok users, most of them are younger people, the secretary of commerce, gina romana says if tiktok is banned, you are going to lose every voter under 35. your response? >> well, i think that good policy makes good politics. in this particular case, we have to recognize that while tiktok is another social media app and we have a generalize concern about these social media apps, it

is different than any other social app because its parent company is be holden to the chinese communist party. that's why on a bipartisan basis, we banned tiktok from all federal devices. that's why the fbi director and the director of national intelligence and cia director and the entire intelligence committee believe it is a severe risk to our national security and we have to deal with it. >> thanks very much for joining us. you got a long road ahead. the roundtable is next, we'll be right back. (cecily) it's probably gonna take us a while to move this sign. (vo) time to get moving, because this offer won't last. switch to verizon and get welcome unlimited for just $25 a line. (seth) i love that it's guaranteed for 3 years. (cecily) yeah, get an awesome network and save money doing it. (seth) not bad. (cecily) you get to keep your phone. more savings. (vo) switch and get welcome unlimited for $25 a line. guaranteed for 3 years. (cecily) hey, that could catch on. (vo) yup! don't wait. switch to verizon today.

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numbers that are incredible. we had one today. 69 for trump and 18 for desantis. >> you can call me anything you want, just as long as you also call me a winner because that's what we'll be doing in florida. >> they're already squaring off. let's bring in our roundtable, donna brazil. alex burns, new york times national reporter. and our spokesperson now and abc contributor. donna. i am going to go straight to you. i don't know if you watched it but you heard of donald trump last night saying the pledge of allegiance and the january 6th prisoners on tape singing the national an testimony. it was a really a look back and

>> first of all, i watched it. from 6:00 p.m. until 7:45 p.m. i watched it. of course, look, donald trump yesterday played the victim card. he played all of his grievances of the best of donald trump of a little sprinkling of what he's been talking about lately, i am being prosecuted, come to my defense, i need your help. whole thing with the fingers and the hands. it is despicable what he's doing. donald trump is a leading front runner in the republican primary. leading front runner. there is no one close to him. although governor desantis tried to catch up but he's the front runner. it should be condemned by

everyone, there's no place in america of what he's projecting of these upcoming court cases. >> terry? >> donald trump in 2015 was running at the changed candidate and he was not tied to any records. he was able to say whatever he wanted. that was the different than the 2023 trump we are seeing. you are seeing desantis pursuing a different strategy than what we saw of the 2016 candidate. the 2016, every candidate was trying to be that person who would be up against trump. you don't have that this time because of the dynamic with trump and desantis really turned into a bit of a binary race, it looks like the hillary clinton and barack obama primary from 2008 in some ways where you have the changed candidate now is desantis. not allowing donald trump to flank him on any issues but trying to draw that contrast as we saw that he's the

winner and donald trump has lost so many of these recrept races. >> alex, desantis has not announced yet. >> i think to sarah's point of the 2008 comparison, barack obama had been in the race for more than a month. when you start off behind a universally known candidate, you got to get in the ring. we hear more and more from republicans certainly and washington of this anxiety of this window right after the midterm elections where it was a totally mainstream and widely discussed view in the republican party that donald trump blew it in 2022 and maybe it was time for somebody else and that window is not that it is closed, but it may be a little bit narrower three or four months ago. when desantis gets in, it may be a sli fight eight or 12 weeks ago. >> let's go back to florida

here. he announced of the expansion of the controversial law "don't say gay" to all grades now. >> is that going to help him? >> this is a fight he's intentionally picking. he wants to see the friendly media and he wants to get on fox news. that's how he raised his profiles away from other challengers. his position on ukraine is one that he had to walk back over the last couple of weeks and created some daylight for other candidates, folks like nikki haley or mike pence trying to take a slice from him. desantis is doing a careful dance before he gets in the the race trying to speak at the maga base of donald trump. donald trump is a values driven candidate. he's not going to calibrate braced on what he thinks he

has to try to get around the base with. other candidates pulling from desantis in a different way that we see him being on the defensive of in the last couple of weeks. that speaks to alice's point of the growing window of nervousness and he may have missed it. >> these cultural issues is a good thing for republicans? it didn't help him in the midterms? >> you can argue that in fact the school issues and the crime issues were incredibly effective. in 2022, you didn't see it work for those candidates that made it much more about revisiting the 2020 election, much more about donald trump. so, i am not sure we quite know how the issues actually will fair with candidates who are pursuing them like a glenn youngkin. i think desantis is threading those needles really well. donald trump is the

prohibited front runner the polling. the national polling does not matter. what's going to matter if donald trump loses big in iowa and goes to new hampshire and can't hold on, this whole thing is totally different. >> let's not leave out biden here. what he's doing and angering several democrat and moving to the center. >> the decision at dc is terrible. on immigration and some of the other -- >> new oil drilling. >> and trying to make sure the united states remain competitive and we can produce our own petroleum and he blocked off a lot of federal lands for conservation efforts. joe biden will start to invest in an america tour where he's going to spend the next two or three weeks along with members his cabinet, the vice president when she returns from africa, they'll talk to people of anxieties and

concerns that everyday americans have. this is the republicans going through another round of silly season. to begin to, you know, basically outlaw drag queens, they had somebody going to a quote on quote, drag queen to see if they are a drag queen. if you want to learn how to dance, come to my house. desantis is running on a 1950s america, not a 2050 america. the america the future. i think joe biden will have a real good advantage going into 2024. >> talk about joe biden, what do you see? >> i think he's doing his best to claim that center ground. people close to the president say he's always more of a that's true. he did an awesome job cranking the fog machine. now, he's facing a divided

congress and emboldened in some way a republican party certainly on the hill. he's looking at a fight for reelection. certainly not going to be easy assuming that he does run. he's trying to minimize his political vulnerabilities on energy and immigration and crime. the risk to republicans here, martha, donna and sarah talking about the virginia election in 2021. what worked well for glenn youngkin was tapping into families and education at the height of the pandemic and their fears about crime. when you are talking about drag queens and sort of specifically changing school curriculum choices, i am not sure if that speaks to parents the families in the political middle. i am quite sure it does not in the same way that the youngkin campaign did in 2021. the risk of the gop is you

are spending time on this niche of internet-right wing issue while joe biden is minimizing his political vulnerability. >> there is a difference. the glen youngkin was thinking of the election in virginia and donald trump were thinking of the republicans for the primary. we have seen those internet cultural war pick or choose your grievance issues really rise to the you see that reflected in all the candidates language. not just donald trump, not just ron desantis but when nikki haley and mike or even tim scott, that's really motivating a lot of the republican base. while there is certainly a gap between where that

rhetoric is in a general election audience that we saw in the midterms, these folks are thinking of a republican primary where it seems that's the plurality of where the electorate is. >> let's turn to donald trump's legal problems. do you think he had said in the past that would help him? >> yeah. >> if he was indicted. do you think it will and particularly with in independents, how do they see that? >> the picture is much worse for donald trump. there is the legitimate backlash. there is a legitimate feeling of a criminal element that deserves to be indicted. most americans both and even if we talk about alvin bragg's decision thought this could be political and believable. it was something that you can see donald trump doing.

the thing is back to the point of the audience is donald trump is using the language of victim hood more broadly about himself. this is the republican party that have become victims on every level of the federal government, doj and fbi, they are saying this prosecution is another instance of that. for the hard cores, it will stay for the independents, i don't think so much. >> sarah, you are watching all of this, the house judiciary committee demanded alvin bragg to testify and share records. he said no way. now, they're looking at legislation. >> this is the problem when both sides believe that the other side already broke the rules. and so, you have the left saying donald trump has already broken all the norms, undermined all the rules of law. so, it is okay if we bring sort of charges that don't really work that are boot strapped as dan was saying earlier in the show. he's guilty of stuff, right? cut down all the laws in england to get to the devils.

republicans say look, they undermined the rule of law, now, we have to do what we need to do to prevent them. it is a dangerous thing and we have seen it over and over again on all sorts of issues in this country. >> a lot to watch going forward every week. thanks for joining us today. 20 years after u.s. invaded iraq, two veterans in congress reflected the war's lasting legacy. stay with us. shingles. some describe it as pulsing electric shocks or sharp, stabbing pains. ♪ this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older, ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingles. and we're done. hm, what about these? looks right.

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iraq most certainly in baghdad, the next phase for millions of people is going to be very violent. >> it is been 20 years since u.s. forces invaded iraq. a war on eye-travel to dozens of times. for many, their times overseas led them continue a life of public service back home. some 35 iraq war veterans serve in congress. i sat down with two of them. sena senator tammy she was reminded of her mission everyday. she was one of the first injured. when the grenade pierced her helicopter in 2004, she lost both her legs and badly

injured her right arm. >> i thought i deserved because i did not help my crew, i did not serve according to my training. sorry -- and, my husband caught me crying and he realized i was awake. i said, i could barely talk. i crashed the air traffic. that's my fault. no, you didn't. he said, no, you landed the air pad. really? i have been fine ever since. >> that was more important than anything, knowing you didn't cause it. >> knowing that i did my job when the troops were down as i was trained. as an officer i let my crew down. >> when president george w. bush announced the invasion of iraq. >> these are opening stages. >> reporter: duckworth did not support the reasons

behind the war but never hesitated going into combat. >> i was proud to go because it was my job to obey all lawful orders. was your sacrifice worth it? >> my sacrifice is with the constitution of the united states and always worth it. >> reporter: he previously deployed to iraq. >> when you look back on the decision to go into iraq that george bush made, what did you think? >> it is a complicated situation. it is super easy to look back in time and say i could have done it. 2020 hindsights are wonderful thing, mistakes are made. you can't talk about what the counter facts was. crenshaw was in iraq from 2008 and 2010 watching as the u.s. begin to draw down troops. by 2010, i was leaving in a

platoon. it was much of the same in 2008. we did run into some connected warfare at times but nothing like 2006. certainly nothing like what i have faced in afghanistan in 2012. >> reporter: three years later, isis swept in filling the gap left behind by the u.s. >> 2014 we are back against the crisis. do you think that was easy to see? >> it was painfully obvious. all of these bad guys we were tracking, they're always on syria on the eastern border. pretty obvious that they were laying and pretty obvious that it was american presence that was keeping them there. we were in a stable place by the end of 2011. we were not investing a massive amount of resources. it should have been a lesson. >> reporter: both crenshaw and duckworth say there are

many lessons to learn about war from their own experiences. >> we never know what the parameter is going to be and what the end goal of the fight will be. so, we are not stuck there for decades with no off-ramp. >> you don't prevent it by being weak and letting people bully you around. you don't prevent it by waiting until the last minute to act. >> reporter: despite the out comes of these wars, there are injuries. and thousands that endured, they remained immensely proud of their service. >> it is the best time of my life that i don't regret for a second even with the missing eye. we go to do the bidding of the united states. i don't want anyone to feel sorry for us. i don't want anyone to feel sorry for me because of my injuries. i chose to do what i did. >> a lot of soldiers are apart of me. if you ask me to do it

again, i gained so much more than i ever gave up. >> our thanks the all of our veterans and their families. we'll be right back.

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