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nation" -- iran launches a massive retaliatory attack on israel. will it lead to a major escalation of conflict in the region? overnight iran launched its first ever direct attack on israel. most of the hundreds of drones and missiles were shot down by israeli defense systems, and its allies, including the u.s., in a powerful show of international support. but how and will israel respond? will those allies be able to keep the response in check? declaring before the attack whoever hurts us, we hurt him, the pressurep on prime minister netanyahu to not engage further and put an end to the war with hamas grows. president biden is also under pressure to rein in the israeli prime minister. back at home, politically, america's support for the israeli side of the war with hamas in gaza is dropping, especially among democrats.

we'll have the latest news and tell you why what happens next is crucial to the security of the middle east and the perception of the u.s. leadership around the world. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ good morning and welcome to "face the nation." as we come on the air, we are learning that the damage from those strikes overnight has been extremely limited, and we are now awaiting word or actions from the israelis about their response. president biden spoke last night to prime minister netanyahu and we'll hear more about that in a moment. here in the u.s. there is increasing political pressure on president biden on a number of fronts when it comes to doing something to end israel's six-month long war on hamas in

gaza. our new cbs news poll taken before the iran strikes show that only a third of americans approve of president biden's handling of the conflict. that's down 5 points since february. in fact, within his own party, more democrats now sympathize, quote, a lot with the palestinian people, that's a larger number than sympathize a lot with the israelis. our debora patta reports from tel aviv on the attack and the aftermath. >> reporter: from the north to the south, israel's powerful air defense systems intercepted more than 300 iranian drones and missiles, with the help of the fl united states, jordan and the uk. it's the scenario everyone has feared since the october 7th hamas attack, a state-to-state confrontation that could spiral into a regional war. hardline iranian supporters

celebrated the strikes as the regime boasted that their operation "true promise" had exceeded their expectations. despite israel saying it intercepted 99% of the incoming projectiles. >> a number of iranian missiles fell inside israeli territory, causing minor damage to a military base with no casualties. >> reporter: israel is still weighing up its response but a former senior israeli diplomat to the u.s. told us president biden warned prime minister netanyahu last night not to retaliate. >> my understanding was that biden told mr. netanyahu, if you act against iran, based on this, we will not stand by you. >> reporter: he said netanyahu benefits with a war with iran given growing anger over his government's failure to protect israelis from the october 7

attack. >> mr. netanyahu wanted an escalation with iran as early as november. for him, it was a way change the narrative, to distance himself from october 7th by wrapping it in a bigger story, in a bigger narrative. >> reporter: just hours before the attack, tens of thousands of israeli demonstrators took to the streets of tel aviv, protesting against netanyahu's mishandling of the war in gaza and rising tensions with iran. pinkus told us iran had telegraphed details of the strike and knew most of the missiles and drones could be shot down, allowing iran a shock and awe spectacle with minimal damage, that israel can choose to walk away from. >> that's debora patta in israel. and we turn now to coordinator for strategic communications at the white house, national security council john kirby. good morning and welcome back. >> thank you, margaret.

good to be with you. >> do you believe that iran intended these strikes to be successful and lethal or just look like they could be? >> oh, no question. look at the size and scale, the scope of what they fired at israel from iran proper. more than missiles and drones. they wanted to cause damage, no question about that. but they were utterly unsuccessful in doing so. >> israel clearly has the military upper hand here, but the israeli foreign minister said days ago that if -- that israel will respond if iran attacks from its territory. you said they did exactly that. so has israel committed to the u.s. that they will give a head's up before they take action against iran? >> i don't think we're going to go into the details of the conversation that we had last night between the president and the prime minister. it was a good conversation, really focused on the incredible success that israel achieved last night with their partners. i mean, two really -- things are

clear about last night. israel doesn't stand alone and the united states stands with them as well as others, and two, the israeli military does have superior capability to be able to defend itself. for what the -- what the next steps are, i think i'll leave that to the prime minister and the war cabinet to talk about. >> and that war cabinet meeting is ongoing, but i asked because as you know, the u.s. has significant presence in the region, troops in iraq, in syria, in jordan. >> we do. >> and there is risk to that. >> absolutely. >> and you said and pentagon spokesperson said that the u.s. was not notified in advance by israel before they carried out the april 1st attack that started this chain of events. should they have forewarned the united states and as a matter of principle what is the u.s. position on bombing what israel says it's a facility. >> i won't talk about the details of that strike. to the larger point we have a lot of troops in iraq and syria going after isis. we have a lot of facilities

elsewhere in the recently and ships at sea, and so what happens there certainly has an affect on us, and we want to make sure -- we want to make sure the conversations we're having with the israelis are as k contextual as possible to make preparations for our troops and facilities. the message the president said over the last few days and discussed last night, is we're going to take whatever steps we need to take to protect our troops, our ships, our facilities in the region going forward. that was the case last night before the strikes last night and it's going to be the case today going forward. >> does the u.s. need to be prepared to draw down a presence from any of our diplomatic facilities? >> that's a conversation that the president and secretary blinken are having in real time. we talked about that as well yesterday. i won't speak for secretary blinken and the state department. they'll make those kinds of force protection decisions as they see the threat in the region, but the threat changes from time to time and you're always monitoring that. >> i know you don't want to go into a phone call between

leaders, but the fundamental premise of what we're talking about here is the blowback for the united states, so do you have reason to believe that prime minister netanyahu shares the desire not to escalate this further, which the president has made clear is his intent? >> i would say that prime minister is well aware that president is not looking for a conflict with iran, that the president doesn't want tensions to escalate anymore and the president is doing everything and has since the 7th of october, to try to keep this from becoming a broader regional war. i mean, one of the reasons we were able to help the israelis knock down so many missiles and drones is because the president made decisions in recent days to preposition additional ships in the eastern mediterranean and an extra fighter squadron in the region, that literally had a huge impact on last night. >> to deter? >> to prevent a greater sense of destruction inside israel. >> would the u.s. participate in offensive action if there is an

israeli reprisal? >> i'm not going to get into hypotheticals. the president made it clear we're not looking for a war with iran or a broader regional conflict. everything we've been doing since the 7th has been designed to prevent that outcome. >> the irgc chief of staff went on tv saying they sent a message in the u.s. participates in an israeli reprisal u.s. bases and personnel will not be in the security zone. >> i'm mindful of the comment and statement. i will go back to what i said before. we're not looking for a war with iran or a broader regional conflict. the other thing the president has made clear is, we will do what we have to do to help israel defend itself and we did last night and we will do everything we need to do to make sure our troops, facilities and ships at sea in the region are protected. we have interest in the region too. obviously, we're all focused on israel and rightly so, but we have broader national security interest rate in the middle east, a force postur we're monitoring to make sure we can meet those interests.

the president takes that seriously. that has been communicated to iran as well. >> the iraqi prime minister will be at the white house this week talking about the troop presence tomorrow. >> tomorrow. we anticipate having a good discussion about not just the force posture, but the mission set inside iraq and what that looks like. it's an advise and assist mission, to help the iraqi defense forces in their operations to go after isis inside iraq. >> the ma sad announced hamas rejected the latest proposal for the release of hostages saying it proves the hamas leader in gaza does not want a deal. does the u.s. share that assessment? is the diplomacy dead or is this just another bump in the road. >> we're not considering diplomacy dead. there is a new deal on the table that director burns negotiated a week or so in cairo. it is a good deal and it would get dozens of the most at risk women elderly the wounded out, get us a six-week cease-fire, a little bit more calm and get us

an opportunity to get more humanitarian assistance in. the hamas leaders need to take that deal, and we're not considering this dead. >> the moussaid rejection is not closing the door. last sunday when you were here you told us that the u.s. expected to have talks with israel, perhaps as soon as this week, about their plans to go into southern gaza into rafah. when is that happening? do we have any further details? >> we think that discussion -- first of all there's been staff technical level talks, since you and i last spoke. we expect that larger conversation with our israeli counterparts to happen in the coming days, hopefully this week. >> hopefully this week? >> hopefully this week. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. we turn now to the republican chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, texas congressman michael mccaul. welcome back to the program. >> thanks for having me, margaret. >> we just heard from mr. kirby about the conversations in regard to u.s. personnel in the region. in your role you have oversight of the state department and some of these embassies.

how concerned are you about the security threats to americans abroad and is the u.s. prepared to do an evacuation if needed? >> we're always concerned and we don't want escalation in the region. that would be a threat to our troops and embassies. as i understand talking to the state department the embassy is in good shape right now in israel. >> in israel. >> yeah. and the fact of the matter is mr. kirby mentioned 99% of the rockets and drones were shot down. >> right. >> pretty impressive display of force showing a force in collaboration with the united states, jordan and other allies, and it also showed us iran is 10 feet tall. >> not 10 feet tall militarily, fair assessment there. i'm sure then you don't agree with some of your republican colleagues who are saying that this necessitates any kind of military action against iran? >> i do think the -- this is a choice for israel. we cannot have daylight between us.

we had daylight prior to this when we joined with them and gantz came out with a statement saying we want to be joined with our partners -- >> than prime minister netanyahu -- >> i think a proportionate response, one option to take out the facilities where these drones and rockets came from, and also destroy the manufacturing facilities that build the drones and rockets. not just for israel's sake, but also for ukraine's sake because these rockets and these drones are being bought by russia and they're killing ukrainians every day. what happened in israel last night happens in ukraine every night. >> ukraine's ambassador to the united states was tweeting about that point. she called it an axis of evil between russia, iran and north korea. the speaker of the house doesn't seem to share -- and we've talked about this before -- the sense of emergency that you have. why is there still not a date for a vote on ukraine? i did see the statemnt from steve scalise, the whip, saying that there should be a

consideration of legislation to support israel, but what does that mean? is that a vote on the national security supplemental? >> that is a speaker determination. i'll be talking to him this evening with other national security people and chairs. i think it's -- i talked to the ambassador to ukraine as well and said the situation is dire. car kyiv could implode any day now. that's 2 million people. and the power grid is under threat right now. if the power grid goes out in ukraine we don't have time on our side. we have to get this done. i would implore -- what i need to educate my colleagues, they're all tied together. >> yeah. >> i mean iran is selling the stuff to russia. guess who is booig iran's energy, china. you know why? because we lifted our waived the sanctions that we had, this administration, on the drones and the missiles, and on the energy. this is giving them $100 billion in cash to fund their terror

operations. >> you're talking about iran. >> that's why we're seeing this. >> okay. you still don't have a commitment from the republican speaker of the house to vote on what you say is a republican priority that has to drive you mad here. do you expect to get an answer when you talk to the speaker tonight? i have a commitment it will come to the floor, my preference is -- >> when? >> this week. >> your preference? still an open question. i mean the speake of the house went down to mar-a-lago stood beside donald trump, and we have not heard the republican frontrunner in any way endorse the package that you are saying there are republican votes to pass. >> he did say he supports the idea of a loan program. 80% of the funding goes -- >> that's not in the national security supplemental? >> well, that would be added in our bill, right. in addition, repo, my statute to get into the russian sovereign assets to help pay for this, you know, in addition, $80 billion of this money, 80% i should say, of the ukraine funding goes into our defense industrial base to

replenish and modernize our stockpile in the united states. these are compelling arguments that senate bill doesn't have, and, so i am an eternal optimist. we didn't pick and choose our enemies in world war ii. we went after all of them, japan, italy, and germany. we can't just pick, you know, and say iran's bad, but russia is okay, and china is bad. >> you can't do stand alone. >> they're in this together an it's clear to us in the intelligence national security community. >> you said something interesting here. you said you have to educate your colleagues. our polling shows that among republicans, the most trusted source of information on ukraine and russia is donald trump, 79%, congressman. 60% trust the pentagon. conservative media is 56% separated from journalists in war zones which is 33% and the state department 27%.

how do you fight that information war when the republican frontrunner for the presidential nomination is helping to spread some of that disinformation about the war effort? >> that's why the speaker went down to mar-a-lago to talk to him about the ukraine package, to get him to agree the loan program for direct government assistance, like the eu does, would be acceptable. remember the first lethal aid package that ever went to ukraine that i side off on $300 million came from the trump administration. they don't want to see us lose in ukraine like we did in afghanistan. the repercussions long term, weaker america, not stronger. i don't think trump wants to own that. i think he wants to help us get to the point where he gets in and can finish the job. >> doesn't that graphic tell us in order for any bill to pass you need donald trump to endorse it, even though he's not in office. >> i will be honest he has influence over my conferenc and

it's important we have these discussions with him. but we also -- we're all independent thinkers and represent our own districts. i happen to think we haven't seen a threat like this since my dad's war, world war ii, and if we don't stick together against this unholy alliance that came after afghanistan, remember afghanistan was the turning point and that is when the russian federation came into ukraine, chairman xi looking at taiwan, ayatollah rearing its ugly head. >> they invaded in 2014. >> correct. >> i take your point. see if that phone call changes minds or the meeting at mar-a-lago did. we'll follow this. thank you. "face the nation" will be back in one minute. stay with us. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death

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security issues. the u.s. intelligence assessment back in february that was declassified said iran is, quote, not currently undertaking the key nuclear weapons development activities necessary to produce a nuclear device. are you concerned some of these calls for strikes on iran by israel, for even u.s. participation in them, could that change iran's calculus? >> well, i think it could and that's why we don't want to see this escalate. last night we supported israel in their defense very successfully. this is a very aggressive act by iran. they've been, you know, doing this for months now through their proxies but now directly from iranian territory. this is significant. we don't want to see this escalate into a wired cder conf. at the same time i'm looking at the iranian nuclear weapon capability. they could get pretty close

pretty fast if they chose to do that. >> they have not as yet decided to make that political decision? >> that is our intelligence community's analysis of this. >> okay. >> i would agree with that. >> okay. >> in a poll that was taken before this iranian reprisal, democrats support for sending weapons to israel has dropped from almost half to a third since october 7th according to our latest poll that we released today. democrats are now more sympathetic to palestinians than to israelis. are you concerned that israel's conduct in this war in gaza and the use of u.s. military equipment is going it hurt president biden in november? >> well, my first concern here is the israeli people and the palestinian people. i mean, israel was violently attacked on october 7th. i've watched an hour of footage

from that day. it was horrific, and israel has a right to defend itself. the way this has been conducted in gaza i have serious concerns and expressed those. most recently about a week ago with the israeli prime minister with what happened with the world central kitchen. reckless act, and irresponsible and they need to do better. we provide them with significant aid, and we will need to provide them with more because of what happened last night. we need to replenish their rounds. i'm concerned with perceptions in an election, but the thing that's always top of mind for me, because i sit on the intelligence committee, and i'm on the armed services committee, it's our own national security and the national security of our allies. >> and, senator, i know you have a been concerned about the security of ukraine as well and that national security supplemental. i want to talk to you more in

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