opportunities from housesing to full and a new book profiles four remarkable women thah shatteredglass ceiling. hel oo oand well doom kqed newsroom. we begin with tense talks over immigration and terrifes. president trump is threatening ey hit mexican imports with tariffs as t announce that arrests at the border had surged to a ran the-year high. it's also theai fourth strght tsnth they've broken therarecord

for family arres meanwhile mexican officials are agreeing to boost immigration enforcement. they're also can considering changing asylum rules to mak the easier to deport central american migrants apprehendrdd add the . herer to discuss the issu are law professor and sean walsh a republican strategist. nice to have both of you back. so here's what's being laid out. and honduras. thaw would need to apply, rather than in the u.s. what do you think of this plan. survive for the united states to ingogsiate with other countries and have those count raz take mugerants. united states has

agreement with canada. the country has to be sauf. it's unclear if this would be unsafe given they'rexperiencinging record levels off crime. >> what do you think? >> we have an immigration problem that is out of control. people thought the numbers of migrants would decrease under trump with the tough rhetoric and talk of building the wabe but they'v increasing. and the costs associated with the documented immigrants in the count raeare increasing asual. california is flush with money and gavin nusom is puting outmanby programs. > would a program like this work to decrease the number of migrants trying to cross the bory r? >> i actuave president trump credit. he's using the trade policy t effect another major policy he wantso have happen. teter you flee your country, if

you're purpy having a problem with regards to your safety oryour well being. i think many the migrants areom g for economic benefit. i understand it. they're very, very poor. >> they are trying to flee countries that have horrible violence and unrest going on. >> but the issue is the united states shouldn't be the recipient of unregulated immigration. i willtleia th democrats in congress and state of california will regulate everything from your tooth paste to everything other issue yet they want no regulation in an immigration system. forerse and it costs th country billions of dollars. >> if you were visiting migrant detention centers, what did you

see? and do you agree they'r fleeing for merely poor economic reasons? >> i think the caricature to suggest any political bod doesn't want to regulate the border at all. but one of the things that you understand when you're at the border and you see it t etention facilities, when you're on the other side of the u.s./mexico border is that our immigration pall as, our enforcement-heavy immigration policy fundamentally misunderstands the reasons. the fact that someone mouth be fleeing desperaticbnomic is not -- we're talking about merely falled states. the fact is people dont want to migreat. only 3% of the world lives arn place they were not born. what you see are families with sm children making a 2,000

mile dangerous trip for chance to maybe run away from their country. i don't think it's as simple as saying they're running for economic reasons. >> let me lo at two other positions which is mexico isto looking pand an american program to allow them to wait while they're being caughted. and pledgig to send 6,000 troopes to border with guatemala.nt the presi has said all along that he wants mexico to come up with way tout a complete stop to illegal immigration. will theseene ghf to convince the president? >> mexico'come a long way. the question with donald trngmp is anyt ever enough? i'm not sure. unless mexiomes up with a big five-foot tall check saying i'm paying for the wall, that may not boo enough for donald trump.th

bue are very impactful public policy issues being put put forward. >> andei put forwardward by the u.s. asual. predent trump tying immigration to the threat of tariffs is a new approach by u.s. presidents. do you think there will be legal challenges a if so, on what grounds? >>ia could on the basis of whether guaranteesed safety, that is tosay it the thi can country has to be a safe place for the migrants to come. so i think that's one area where people mouth push back on such an agreement. givare people who, even i an plaus to stay unmexico, mexico may not be saf the other thing is mexico has for some time bun interested in controlling its own border. last year they deported 85,000

central americans back to central america. n a dont have an interest in not regulating its own border. i think there's a capacity concern. united states, asone of the wealthiest countries in the entire world has troublell contg its border, it's an open question how mexico a country less well resources can control its boarder. >> californ a top importeder, $34 arllion last rom mex co. how big is a dilemma isr this republicans adamantally opposed but concerned about how taufrfe will effect our economy? >> they're in favor of fe e flow of trd goods. in california the last major udy that was done in 2017 said undocumented immigrantwere listing the united states around

$125 billion and rnia, $23 billion. so even though you may pay morer for goods and services, where is the cost being born out by the taxpayerers? so there's additional costs. and so how much more of those costs when you factor in the increases in tariffs. >> you want to add to that? >> if we're trying to think of migration and hownt to col it, at theened of the day, no matter what up to of policyav we in the united states, it is, i think a f ttasy believe that we can unilaterally control migration. when people are fleeing circumstances in central american countries, that's not going controlled by all the things we'rallred a doing. that's why people keep coming despite knowing they might die.

>> the office of settlement is canceling class and reccreational activity like soccer. what kind of far reaching consequences could these policies have? >> first you have some legal concerns i thunk. the federal government can keep children only. tint has certrestrictions on how the federal government has to treat childre they requires that any states or any place where the children are held has to comply. those regulations emlves would require other types of classes, recreation activity, etc. so there might be immediate legal concerns with that pall as. more far reaching they're taking a vulnerab population, one that has under both republican and democratic administrations been treateddifferently that

know the other part of the immigrant detained popation an treating them just like the adult immigrant population. to>> i have move on to d.a.c.a. the hatse passed ledgen to grant a path to citizenship for d.a.c.a. recipients and protected status. it's almost certn to dive in the republican-ledsont. so what message are they try to send? >> 2020 election is coming up. when he said the's no way to control migration, that's wrong. israel put up a fence and they were able to control tatrorer cks on their own country. i believe if you use a border barrier, you have technology and enforce through real id, you can cut down significantly the number of people coming illeg al. with d.sc.a., wha important in my view and if i werer a

republicandvising the sena leader, mr. mcconnell, i wouldlo say don't go with dock fau. it's something they desperately want from a pr perspective. it should be put in something with a comprehensive immigration reform package that would include funding the wall. >> what are the chances a comprehensive plan will so many presidents have tried and failed? >> there is zeeree chance it's going to pass adneleast in the r future. the only part of comprehensive immigration proposal that has enjoyed bipartisan support has been dream actat legin, which at one time was supported by several republicans and introduced by several republicans. this proposal is can going nowhere. but ca is a piece thabe passed. >> we will have to leave it there. thanks to both of you.

nice to have you here. >> thank you. now to state politics. since 2012, rob has served thing california state assembly representing the east bay and the first philippine eo americans elected to the legislature. hiss proposal would say landlords would show just cause before they can evict. and a cftics o for profit prisons say they lack both safety andacan countability. and now here in the 1250 so i. soelet's begin with the housing crisis. we have a serious one in the bay area. it wouldall also allow tenants

challenge. >> it's a big problem right now. we're in a state of crisis. we understood use all the tools in the tool box. right now tenants are hurt in a lot of of different ways. one is by having rent raised incredibly high rates is that they are essentially economicly evict thaw are being evicted for reasons not faiand not just. this bill is simple and powerful. it says when you're evukted fo needs for a fair and just reason. not a reliatory reason, not an arbitrary reason. >> realtors and landlords say the legislare's opposed to trying to fixing the housing crisis is like foksingto much on issues that effect renters and not enough on streamlining processes to create more housing. >> woo are doing both. we have done lot on the supply side.

we had a housing bond pass. a recording fee pass to generator more housing, more erproduction, morsupply. we had streamlining paed that spp get more for our affordable housing up faster. what we haven't done is taken important steps to protect our tenants. it's awkward to har that icism given all that we continue to do. we haven't done enoughf to protectitants enough >> you have a bill that would phase tout the use of california's private scitizens y 2028. >> they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to maximize profits. they're cutting corners every way they n to services they eprovide to the inmates.ed we ake sure when they get out of prison are ready to be successful and our recidivism

rates are low and we have successful reentry. >> but t group that run private prisons say they do that. they focus on rehab and support uvr servicesr even afey get out. do you not believe tem? >> the facts show that not to be true. d we structure the whole set off incentives. theyave a fiduciary duty. their dut a is to maximize profit for their shareholders.th 's who we should care about are ca pfornians inson now that will get out andy with need to make sure they have theuman resources and rehabilitation to make that happen. the facts show assaults between oners and others is higher in for-profit prisons, the

assaults on guards is higher. the skill level is lower. so almost on every indicia, they lose. >> there are nearly 4,000 prisoners right now. where will they all go becau already counties are saying don't send them to us because und realinement we already have more people that would have been in the state prisons but nowr they're un facilities and we're seeing a much more iangerous popul at the county level. >> there should be zeer . and the reason we use for-profit prison initially was because we had a court-mandated cap for we couldn't have them in our prin system. i think we should have done it differently then. we can work with o county jails, we've done a study. housands off feds of capacity

where wecontract voluntarily an have them come to their facility and get goods, servi rehabilitation investment. there should be a public facility, not for-profit private one. >> and we've seen all year one of the most canvi dve issues has been the chart schools issue. youre the co sponsor of a bill that would make a harder to open a new charter school or expand an kpusing one. >> ewestarted an experiment over 20 years ago and there's been a lot of unintending ncnsequences then. we're drainingia the finany our school dustricates. we have more stude gsng to charter schools and when they do, we lose the economy and economic benefits in our public

school syste >> districts lose funding because there are few students. >> more facilities to operate. and one of the ideas behind charter schools was to do things differently, better, and bring thatk bnto our traditional public schools. it's staying in a corner off a district at a single set. the innovation -- there's no feedback. so -- >> even unyour own district, right, in oaklan 27% of students are in charter schools. that'se largest portion in any school district in california. there are lotsff oparents who feel that gives them choice of quality schools. and your proposal is talking that away from them. >> it's not. ours is nat authorns that don't exist right now. there's no students, noes fami

that supportthem or go to them. if you're a good, existing ontinue school, you'll to be because you'll be authorized by who authorized you before. mine says we should have school dustricate bords making decisions about they're schools and they should be able to consider the impact of the school. that seems exceedlegly reasonato me. toprohib a school board from consider the financial impactff decision they're making to me violates the fiduciary duty of a school board meer. >> thank you so much for joining us. and now tait tech. the struggle of women in sillicon valley are well documents. such as google and amazon to sexual harassment, to raising

capitol to their strps. a new book profiles four who shattered shatttereotypes in the tech industry. here to talk about this is author, julian guthrie. by now the dismal statistics around womli are well puzed. 94 prer are men and less than 2% of venture capital go start ups founded by women. was that one of the reasons you decided to write this book? >> no, journalists wantri to te st that haven't been told. and when i was around publicizing my last book "how to make a space ship i would see huge groups of , peop entrepreneurs, aviation folks and so few women and i thought these are such dynamic industries.

where are all the wem snn and i started to look more in my own backyard attech and this world of venture capital that i see as having this outside influence and little understood. when i started my recording 94% off all investing partners were men. and there's 6% who are women and succeeded and how did they edo it? and what is it li b to the only woman at the table chasing down these deals? >> they may not be household names butcertainly t ventures they're involved in bulding are well kbon. google. idp and so much more. were there common tlhreads that ran through theires stor of success? >> the struggles are very int successes.well as the i would say firstes commonali

in terms of successes. umor to defuse tense situations. i thuink that's a powerful mechanism. one of theam alpha girlsfrom indiana. she drives thst i old ford pint eo.he floor boards are so rusted out, she goes on to be one of the first partners in venture capitol. and she's tasked with firing at an entrepreneur twice h age. they're one on one meeting and she found out who'st sleeping one of of his employees. you're fired. and ooked at her and says i'm not going to be fired by a woman. and she thinks he's fuine being funded by woman but not fired by a woman.

and she said i don't see anyone else here. i am all you've got. that wasn't obly a win in using lightness, brevity. wheacshe went to her firm, all men, they looked at this because she was -- these women the only women at the table. the male partners looked at it as though this is how other women would handle the same situation. was this inkrmtal game for women. >> what were some of the most surprising things you learned after you talk to them? >> actually it was all surprising to me because it opened my eyes how women in male-dominated industries succeed and translates. it transsends place and time. the way they succeeded was very different from how the sucksis th

success i had studies in past books, they were able to succeed one step at a time. i glaubd on to this term called tempered radicals. theyto were abl have small vuktries where it wasn't just a win for them but for uthsers. they hadh things we, in journalism, because you spent 20 years at the san francisco chricle, your biline, my on air work is my on air work. but inthe meetings they were wondering should i speak ? and those are things ivent thought about. >> andwa i also lucky to work in a newsroom where it was very much a maur talkeracy. and that was something that surprised me about the ridiculous barriers that exist for women whether it's being taken serious onmeeting or working with entrepreneurs or walking into a board room and

what are you wearing? and is it commented on? but these women also had -- you .asked about commonaliti they had the sort of eyes on the prize mental. it if there were barriers, they found a way around them. so they kept this sns off where do i wanto get to? and they just teflon suits let the rest off it kind off wash off. >> so they paved the way. the specifics is still bizmal in terms of representation by women. so what do you think needs happen in order to have women in the tech force feel like there are opportunities for them the way women have? >> i thinkhe sam thing in industries beyond tech as well. and that is first of all wthen need telr own stories. nd thaw need be brave like the women off alpha girls told me their stories with hurts and

injuries and betrayals and successes but women need to tell their stories and other women's stories. i read a fact that we have 3500 years off record history and .5% have bn dedicated to stories ofwomanen. these women roo went what i call navigating to pioneering are creating the sister hood. tha they're founding women-run investment plalt form. investing in women-founded firms at unprecedented lvlts. it's about m sure you're speaking to this important demogrhic. and can companies show the more, divethe more profitable it is as well. >> and your research for this book had already begun with the #ime too movement hapened.>>

i think more women were slightly more willing to share their stories. but it was the hardest part to get them to and the hurt.isstep asd i felt so strongly that important to be honest in the story. >> and you did a great job bringing that out. i know it's going to be adapted for a series. >> and for an incredible alpha girl,womanen producer.ll >> and that o it for us. as always you can find more on kqed.com/newsroo n producer. >> and that will do it for us. as always you can find more on kqed.com/newsroom. do producer. >> and that wilt for us. as always you can find more on kqed.com/newsroom.

robert: a migrant surge a and trade standoff. i'm robert costa. welcome to "washington week." presoment trump:hing pretty dramatic could happen. we've told mexico the tariffs go on and i mean it. robert: president trump vows to putif tar on mexico and dismisses republican contribution. president trimp: they have no ideahat they're talking about. >> tre's not much support for taffs. robert: democrats say the president is reckless. >> this is dangerous territory. it's not a way to deal with migration and humanitarian needs at the border. robert: and global leaderser rememb d-day next. 12340e9