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following another indictment. it's been one week since the wildfires in maui began with recovery crews intensifying the efforts in the search for missing loved ones. and we take a look at how life in afghanistan has changed two years now since the taliban regained power. welcome to "world news america," we begin in georgia. 19 defendants including former president donald trump have until august 25 two surrender to authorities on charges related to election interference. accused of attempting to overturn his defeat in georgia. the 98 page indictment coming fr bonnie willis lists 41 of the total charges against the defendants. the former president is facing
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13 counts, including violating the georgia racketeering act, a type of organized crime where someone profits through dishonest or illegal activities. he's accused of violating the oath of public office and charged with conspiracy to impersonate a public officer. reminder that these are charges in connection to accusations of election meddling. additionally accused of conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree and facing charges as well for making false statements and filing false documents. the indictmentames 18 other defendants, from lesser-known individuals to high-profile lawyers and political figures. among them former trump lawyer, rudy giuliani, they're on the left, and former chief of staff mark meadows there on the right. also named in the case, lawyer john eastman, former department of justice official jeffrey clark on the right.
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trump has said that he will release a report on monday on what he claims was election fraud in georgia that he claims would exonerate him and he has maintained his stance that the indictments are a witch hunt and politically motivated. let's bring in our north america con this -- correspondent. u have covered many of these indictments before. this is the fourth criminal indictment against donald trump. how does this one stand out to you from the previous three? >> the fact that a former president wants to be prident again is facing a fourth criminal indictment, it still feels like deja vu but it's extraordinary that we are in that place. as you mentioned there, donald trump is the only one named in the indictment. there are 18 other defendant's. it's a long indictment, nearly 100 pages. also quite staggering is that one of the laws being used against the defendants is the kind of law used to bring down,
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you know, drug cartels. the mafia, gangsters, that sort of thing. the indictment came late at night. there were a lot of headlines, clever headlines that we saw like midnight pain from georgia. as you mentioned they have been given until next friday to appear in court so we don't know the exact arraignment date yet. carl: you touched on this, the case being touched on, the rico act stands for racketeer influenced corrupt organizations. what exactly is that? it sounds confusing. how is it being used in this particular case? >> original used to take down criminal organizations. like i mentioned, mafias, gangsters, that sort of thing. in georgia the rico act is actually a really, really powerful law enforcement tool. it's got pretty broad powers. it basically allows prosecutors to bundle together lots of
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crimes that seem unrelated that have been committed by a whole bunch of different people if those crimes are thought to have been for the purpose of a common goal and in the case of this indictment what these defendants are accused of is conspiring together to overturn the legitimate election victory of president joe biden and if these charges do stick they come with a maximum jail sentence of 20 years. carl: briefly here, there are 19 defendants in this case. what could it mean looking ahead for the timeline of a potential trial? >> the prosecutor in charge of the case once a trial in about six months time. we know that the trump strategy is to delay and it's likely the defendants will also do that. you know, donald trump may try to argue that it should be heard in a federal court where there is a more favorable jury pool with a judge that he appointed to the bench.
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he may also argue that the charges he's accused of, they allegedly happened when he was in charge of the federal government and we might see delay tactics from the other defendants as well. to be honest it's unknown when the trial could take place. as we said, it's when the prosecutor wants it to take place and it might even happen after the election of november 2024. carl: our north america correspondent, thank you. ining me in the studio, but ryan lanza, former member of the donald trump transition team. fourth indictment. here we are. what is your take on this particular one? how strong of a case is there some mark -- is there? >> this feels like the kitchen sink, piecing together what the others haven't, duplicate what's happening on the federal side. the kitchen sink where jack smith cooks. the theory of using rico is creative, they can do that but it's a theory and she will have a long way to go to convince
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jurors and vots that the president acted in some sort of criminal enterprise. that's her challenge but she's entitled to ring if orderednd the president is entitled to his defense and it will be vigorous and my honest take is that you probably won't see an outcome until the election. carl: is that because of all the people? >> 19 people, that's too difficult to even seat a jury for even one person, that will take a month. now you have 19 without carl: you mentioned that this alleges a criminal conspiracy using the rico act. this was designed to crack down on and arrest criminal gangs. they used this against the mafia in the 70's. is this the appropriate way to indict a former president? >> i don't think that that is the appropriate way to go after
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political enemies. bringing in rico, i think you are not elevating the bar for a response for when republicans are in power. that becomes a dangerous thing. i remember during the nixon presidency, kennedy and nixon hawaii offered their own alternate delegates. under today's delegates that would be criminal. i remember senator boxer saying that the election of george w. bush wasn't legitimate. under rico that statement would be criminal. carl: the difference being that there were not attempt to download information allegedly from voting machines igeorgia or send false electors to washington. i do want to bring in a quote from the republican grgia governor, brian kemp, who said this on twitter in response to donald trump. he saying that the 2020 election was not stolen and that for three years now anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward under oath and prove anything in a court of
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law. the elections in georgia are secure, accessible, fair, and will continue to be as long as i am governor in the future of the country is at stake in 2024 and that must be the focus. what do you make of that statement coming from a republican governor? >> he's defending what was a fair election. trump lost georgia. there were extraordinary measures in georgia that caused this dilemma but i think that when governor kemp says the georgia elections were clean and fair, anyone who can attest to all the documents that it was, president trump has his beef and he's entitled to have that beef and entitled to say that the elections were not fair. but under this rico statute? that statement is a violation of law. that's not what we are ready for as a country, for the opposition to make a statement and that be a criminal activity and in essence that's what this products secure is doing and it's a high hurdle. carl: you have worked with
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donald trump. get in his brain for us for a moment. how could he be viewing these charges and is this a bigger threat than the previous three? >> not even the previous three. remember when we were running for president, many people used them of crimes. just before the election he was accused of sexual assaults. this is nothing new. he had the russia scandal. he had his campaign spied on. he had his first impeachment which was him saying hey i know for a fact that ayden and his son were corrupt, you need to -- biden and his son were corrupt and you need to investigate it. four years later we are starting to investigate that. i think that he feels over time he has been validated on these things and thinks he will be validated in this and this is another thing thrown at donald trump. more stuff next month or next week is what we are used to. carl: another indictment to wrap
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up nomination for him, that's what he's said to. how do you think that with this fourth indictment it will affect him politically? carl: the presidential -- >> the presidential primary is over. you can see the overwhelming target of the front running president running regardless of the activities and it feels off. you don't see this happen in the u.s., where you are prosecuting the leading candidate. that has helped to solidify him with the gop base. carl: georgia was a critical state that solidified the win for biden, going for the first time to a democrat to bill clinton -- since bill clinton. is there a difference there? >> you have to remember what was taking place. you had pennsylvania changing election laws contrary to the constitution on how they could change those rules. you had the media suppressing the hunter biden laptop. actively suppressing it. playing arbiters of putting their foot on the pedal to help
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joe biden. trump is use to fighting all of these things. they have always been uphill battles and it isn't new and my suspicion is that knowing how skillful he is at this, it will get delayed and the election will ultimately be for him and the american people the white house or the jailhouse. carl: plenty of legal battles now, a fourth one in georgia. brian lanza, thank you for being here. >> thank you. carl: you can find a complete list of charges and all the codefendants listed in the indictment on our website, bbc.com/news. now to hawaii, where it has been one week since deadly wildfires there devastated parts of maui, including the historic city of lahaina. teams continue to comb through burned-out rubble and with only 25% of the area completed so far , officials predicted the death toll of 99 could double in the coming days. officials are expected to begin
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releasing the names of those who have died once their families are notified. anyone with a missing family member is being asked to give authorities dna samples to help identify them. joe biden spoke in milwaukee on tuesday saying the federal government is behind hawaii. >> we will travel to hawaii as soon as we can. i've been talking to the governor about it. i don't want to get in the way, i've been to too many disaster areas, but i want to go to make sure that they have what they need. want to make sure that we don't disrupt the ongoing recovery efforts. thoughts, prayers, and not just prayers, every asset, every asset they need will be there for them. carl: joining us now from maui is helena humphrey. much of the focus is on the town of wailea -- the town of lahaina , but you are in another area of hawaii that was hit hard?
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helena: wildfires came through this area in upcountry maui. take a look at the devastation behind me. at least 20 properties here completely decimated where we saw flames going from house to house and locals telling me they were jumping at random. at would have been a challenge for firefighters that night, fighting blazes on multiple fronts. taking a look at ts -- in this direction locals have been telling me about this geographical situation that made things so muchorse. the canyon there, the valley, locals saying that with hurricane winds coming over the hill it acted as some kind of chimney, blowing it forward in the hurricane winds made it tender to spark the flames further. taking a look at this instruction, thiwoman escaped with her life but there is nothing else left. you can see how the flames twisted metal, chair there,
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television over here. her washer dryer, just nothing left. she said she came here to this high elevation area to breathe the clean air here on maui and instead all you can really still taste is the thick, acrid, acrid smoke that still hangs in the air here. take a look at the rubble in front of me. this is what people will be seeing in lahaina, the kind of rubble they have to carefully comb through in order to try to find the remains of the people still unaccounted for. carl: it really is striking to see just how disruptive some of those wildfires were. earlier president biden detailed some of the federal response and you have been speaking to locals for several days. what did they tell you about the levels of aid reaching the island? helena: more federal aid is people said that any of the aid utow byou saw coming in was us d
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they are frustrated and angry i some parts about the response. taking a look at this level of destruction here, 20 properties here burned to the grod and in lahaina we know it's about 2000. doing the math you can see that the destruction we are seeing here is times lahaina 100 very likely in -- times 100 very likely in lahaina. when things came down tuesday night they were out with rakes trying to rake the blazes away from their homes. saying that some of the faucets had run dry, water wasn't coming out. someone else had managed to get a helicopter into the air and took water from a swimming pool to dump in the area. but so much of the time the people we have been speaking to have been talking about the community response that came first. we know president biden said he would be visiting with the first lady at some point right now they say they don't want to
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distract from the recovery effort that continues. carl: briefly what can you tell us about the progress that has been made in terms of the recovery and search efforts going on right now in lahaina? helena: it's slow going. authorities say they have managed to comb through 25% of the area and have the asset they need in terms of cadaver sniffer dogs in teams coming in from fema. the warning from the governor is that it could take at least 10 days to know the full extent of the death toll. carl: bbc's helen humphrey reporting for us there in maui. thank you very much. wildfires like these could contribute to future health problems. new study out this week from the journal american federal association finding that 180 8000 dementia cases in the u.s. each year may have been caused by air pollution and the types of pollution most linked to those ces are wildfire.
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specific types of pollution linked to the likelihood of the -- developing dementia. other than other risk factors like diabetes and hypertensn, air pollution can be decreased, calling it a prime target for wide large-scale prevention efforts. ukraine, now. local government officials say that a russian missile attack killed three people in a northwestern region of ukraine. the ukraine air defense forces say 28 missiles were launched by russia overnight with half of them shot down by ukrainian defense systems. here's james waterhouse now with a new report. james: there is a broader pattern where we are seeing a definite increase in airstrikes across ukrainian cities. moscow seems intent on relentlessly targeting places and relentlessly suppressing the population in they cannot occupy interesting about last night, a
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night air raid sirens were sounding, was not only the scale, 28 missiles reportedly launched from the black sea, the caspian sea, but the fact that western ukraine was in the targets where you had the western city there where residential blocks were reportedly damaged with falling debris after missiles were intercepted. people have been evacuated in some areas. this place was once seen as a place of refuge where millions of you indians were trying to escape the early fighting in the full-scale russian invasion. in one northwestern city here three people are dead after a business was struck i missile. then you have the par for the course here in eastern ukraine where another person has been killed in the eastern city there, a daily occurrence for places like that that are so close to the front line. ukraine has used the attacks as
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a chance to call for more ammunition and air defense systems. broadly speaking they are effective but the reality is that as long as russia continues with this kind of tactic, missiles will always make their way through. carl: in could or another political leader has been killed amongst unprecedented violence in the country. the fatal shooting was the third politics related killing in recent weeks. a leader of the left wing citizen revolution party shot dead by a gunman on a motorcycle. his party's presidential candidate said in a tweet that ecuador is experiencing its bloodiest era. the murder is the late -- the latest in a string of deadly attacks on politicians this year . others assassinated include omar menendez. shot dead in february hours before the polls opened. he did win the election. in july, the mayor of monta was
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killed as he toured the port city. five days ago presidential candidate fernando vs nco was assassinated. american fbi agent's are now helping with the investigation into his murder. tuesday marks two years since the taliban returned to power in afghanistan after the u.s. and other countries pulled out. u.n. says the country is experiencing one of the most severe humanitarian crises in the world and warned of a huge shortfall in funding and economic crises. there's been a bar on girls attending secondary school. our chief correspondent -- international correspondent has this report. >> days gone by. stadiums with female fans. female footballers. now, sports are only four men and boys.
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girls once went to school. now, the high schools are shut. carnal lake, outside couple. -- kabul. once a family favorite, now only men allowed. afghan women are banned from public parks. even beauty parlors were shut two weeks ago. this salon went underground. schools operate in secret. it's risky. but these women are fighting for more than just beauty. >> we are a safe place for woman. i even have customers coming only to talk and spend some time, laugh and cry. the only thing i can see from my heart is that the women of my country are deeply distressed. >> the u.n. says this might be
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gender apartheid. the taliban government spokesman told us the world shouldn't interfere. >> this is just an excuse to put pressure on afghanistan. we have made progress in other areas. there is just one small issue remaining and we will sort it out as well. >> it's just a matter of time? most people seem to believe they are there to stay. >> women are working in some places now. and for the rest as well, as long as sharia allows it and there is a need. the same goes for girls education. we never said these restrictions would be forever. >> afghans ask if, when their lives will change. security is better now. no more taliban attacks, of course. foreign troops are gone. but donors are turning away. the u.n. appeal is only one quarter funded. >> one message they give us so
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forcefully and strongly is please don't abandon us. we already have a more difficult situation and if you take away our jobs and take away even the basic needs that we have, what should, where should we end up? >> more and more children are ending up like this. like these two, working 14 hours a day to feed their families. together they earned about one pound per day. just enough to put bread on their table. their father used to be a driver with a foreign company that shut down when the taliban took over. >> my baby has no cradle. i wanted to buy some flour. if there is no other way i will be forced to sell my children to
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survive. >> agonizing choices. that's life in afghanistan now. carl: before we go, update on u.s. soldier travis king who crossed the border into north korea last month. north korean state media say that he decided to come into the country because he harbored ill feelings against the u.s. army and expressed willingness to seek refuge in another country. these have not been verified yet by the bbc. thank you so much for watching "world news america." ♪ narrator: nding for this presentation of this program
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♪ geoff: leaving. i am geoff bennett. amna nawaz is away. on the "newshour" tonight, former president trump and 18 others are indicted in georgia for attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. president biden takes his economic message on the road as questions linger about his re-election campaign. and, life in afghanistan remains dire amid firm taliban control and major crises two years after the fall of the american-backed government. >> we are jobless, possibly we might flee, because there is no work, no income for me in this country. my children are hungry.

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