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leaders would not. >> kevin durant embodies what this league is all about and frankly sterling doesn't. >> the clipper's owner wants to turn over control of the team to his wife. what that means and more importantly what it does not mean. a black guy infiltrated the kkk and writes a book about it. yes, we dusted off the chappelle show skit as well. also, flush for good. how toilet pans are improving lives in developing countries. it's today's big idea. i'm craig melvin. good saturday. so much to get to. we start, though, with that developing story in california right now. sheriff deputies are investigating a drive-by shooting rampage where seven people including the gunman is dead. seven others are hurt. it happened just before 9:30 last night in isla vista. this is what one witness saw.

oh my god. officials are investigating nine different crime scenes right now. they say that the suspect shots the victims while he was inside his black bmw. at this point they believe he acted alone. deputies say the suspect died from a gunshot wound. at this point it's not clear weather that gunshot wound was self inflicted or whether he was shot by deputies on the scene there. officials have also identified the shooter. they have not released his name until a positive i.d. is made, though. officials are treating this as premeditated murder. >> we are currently analyzing both written and videotaped evidence that suggested that this atrocity was a premeditated mass murder. >> nbc's jennifer bjorklund is live for us in isla vista. jennifer, what's the very latest there on the ground?

>> reporter: i want to show you this, craig. behind me is where it all came to an end. this is the black bmw that went on the rampage with the driver, the gunman, who got into two gun battles with deputies last night around 9:30. it ended around 9:45 right here in the beach side community of isla vista, where most of the communities who don't live on campus at ucsb live, and a lot of them standing around trying to figure out what happened last night. deputies found the man dead with a gunshot wound to the head. not immediately clear, craig, whether he shot himself or whether he was killed by the gunfire. they did recover a semiautomatic handgun from that car. and they tell us that they are looking at nine different crime scenes here in isla vista. that's over a very small block string in this area where the shooting happened last night. so many students live here. so many of them were walking around outside on this friday night, before a long weekend. a lot of people had left town

for the long weekend. some students tell me they haven't heard from their friends. they're not sure if they left for the long weekend or if they're among the dead or the injured. again, six people killed by this gunman. he's dead as well. seven hospitalized with very crushing injury ls. >> jennifer bjorklund on the ground for us there in isla vista. jennifer, thank you. i can tell you now while we continue to wait for official confirmation, we can tell you that authorities are looking right now at a youtube video called eliot roger's retribution. again, eliot roger's retribut n retribution. they're looking at the video in connection to the shooting. at this point the alleged gunman has not been identified by authorities. when that does happen, we will of course pass that information along to you. right now, though, i want to bring in msnbc law enforcement analyst, retired fbi special

agent jim cavanaugh. what exactly will they be looking for? >> if that video turns out to be the shooter, craig, then what they're looking for is the mindset, the purpose. as distorted and perverted as it will turn out to be, that's what they're looking for. and then they want to go back and look at his psychological makeup in the months before. was there mental illness? was there coconspirators? it's unlikely. did anybody supply him with the gun? did anybody aid and abet in this act? >> this video that they're looking at now, there's reports there may be multiple videos in connection to the shooting. how were authorities not alerted

to this? i mean, if you have a bunch of videos or if you have one youtube video, how can authorities not know about something like this, that it may be about to happen? >> that's a great question, craig. but the web is a huge place. and the police aren't just sweeping the the web up like the nsa does in phone calls around the world. the police don't have that capability and they don't do that. unless they're centered on someone, if we had a suspect in a case, we would frequently look and see, are they making public postings on facebook pages, on youtube, and then we could clean those off. it's as if they advertised it themselves. >> yeah. >> but unless you're looking at the person, you're not sweeping the web. if a neighbor, friend, associate would alert authorities that a guy put a youtube video up discussing retribution, revenge, murder, mass murder, anything like that, then the police would have looked at it.

>> jim, really quickly here, university of california president janet napolitano has issued a statement responding to the shooting. he writes while details are scarce, the campus is is taking steps in response. university officials have set up a room for families coming to campus and they're making counseling services available to any students, faculty and staff who need our support. how can schools, how can universities better prepare themselves for sichxs like this. >> we see an upsurge in using social media to alert the police to get help quickly. and when you do an anallization of what happened, you can see the agents got there quickly. that ultimately led to his demise, whether he was killed by the deputies or his own hand. so that worked. and that should be leveraged more. because everybody has the cell phone on their hip. and they can make a quick communication by text.

>> yep. >> a phone call to authorities, to stop these shootings. and move to a safer place. when you hear that sound, don't think it's a backfire. don't think it's a firecracker. think that's a shot. i'm going to move to a safer place. that's what will keep you safe. >> jim, as always, thank you. pope francis is traveling with a mom, a rabbi, on a historic trip, mixing diplomacy with religion. right now he's on a trip to visit the world's holiest sites. the pope is in jordan where he was greeted by the king. in his remarks the pontiff called for a peaceful solution to the syrian crisis and for a just solution to the israeli-palestinian con in incompeten -- conflict. this afternoon pope francis will be meeting with christian, muslim and jewish leaders during the trip. he will also be visiting holy sites in bethlehem and jerusalem. raymond flynn is a former u.s.

ambassador to the vatican. pope francis continues to improve that he's a hip 21st century pontiff. he tweetd this morning, dear friends, please pray for me during my pilgrimage to the holy land. again, that tweet from the hope himself. what does the pope hope to accomplish on this trip? >> well, i think the first thing you want to accomplish is uniting the various leaders in the holy land. . i think that's what he's attempting to do, bring the message of peace. he has an extraordinary record in this already, based when he was archbishop and now as the leader of the catholic church as the pope. so he brings that credibility to the table, and this is his first visit to the holy land. the craig -- the issue i always look at because i'm a former politician is i'm confident ha the religious leaders, whether

it's bartholomew, a greek patriarch or pope francis or any of the jewish leaders. the chief rabbis of jerusalem or the muslim leaders, i'm convince hd that they will come together. my concern is whether or not you can get the politicians together. whether or not diplomacy can actually work in the middle east. so far it's been a huge success. i think the religious leaders will come together. pope francis' leadership on this is extraordinary. now the question, can you bring the diplomatic leaders are together to end the war in syria and the crisis and chaos. >> realistically, ambassador, we know that this pope is on track to become perhaps the most popular pope of our time. how far can he go in terms of

dip diplomatic solution? how much headway is he going to be able to make with the politicians of the region? >> well, that's a great question. and the first thing you want to do is unit the group of people who are very respected, who are very important. unite them at least. and then you set an example for the political diverse community in the middle east. and then they hopefully will follow suit, and they will be ashamed not to at least sit at the negotiating table w whether it's the international community, the united states sitting down with the leaders in those respective countries. >> ray flynn, ambassador, always good to see you. thank you. donald sterling and his wife are reportedly getting a divorce. now the clippers owner wants to turn over control to his soon-to-be ex-wife. is all of this legal maneuvering? and will be nba support his game plan? plus, how is your memorial day weekend shaping up weather wise?

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the unofficial beginning to summer, memorial day weekend got off to a bit of a rough start weather wise in charlotte. a hailstorm dropped golf ball sized ice. . in new york a fierce thunderstorm meant heavy lightning, including this lightning strike at one world trade center. let's head to the weather channel's dr. greg postel with the very latest. specifically, what can we expect for memorial day? >> well, i think memorial day is not going to look that much different than today, spr except maybe warmer in the northeast. . the most unsettled weather will

be in the southern plains here. we have a chance for severe weather in texas. in @ northeast, boston with a high of 59 degrees. but the southeast is relatively dry and pretty warm. tomorrow, kind of unsettled. upper 60s in new york. the severe weather threat remains largely placed in the middle of the country. and the west about the same tomorrow as yesterday. . and finally in the 80s. that's good news. we have storms in the middle and the west about the same. and really across texas we have a chance for hail, high winds and even some torrents. so that threat exists. the good news is the rain they're going to get in the next few days because they desperately need it. craig, back to you. >> dr. greg, thanks as always, sir. the weather may be sunny in

l.a., but there's still dark clouds surrounding the l.a. clippers and their now embattled owner. he has handed over control of the team to his wife. she now wants to negotiate with the nba on how to sell the team. but adam silver said friday he's going to go ahead with a vote next month to terminate the sterilings ownership. rob has been following the story since it first broke. he joins me live now. she says she wants to sell the team ammicably, but what has th nba said? >> well, craig, the nba commissioner, adam silver said he would prefer if the sterilings, particularly shelly would sell the team voluntarily. they would be happier if this could play out in a voluntary manner and not in a forced way. but they were not going to allow

either sterling to maintain any ownership interest in the team. shelly expressed a desire to remain a minority owner. the nbas not going to be okay with that. they want both sterilings completely out. so that's the plan that the sterilings have here and allowing shelly to negotiate with the league. the nba is not going to have that. that's why they've made it clear they're going ahead with the process of voting the to terminate their owner ship. >> you're an attorney. we've talked about this divorce between the sterilings. what, if anything, does this transaction mean for any type of divorce proceedings? or do we know? >> there is no divorce proceeding yet. but divorce is definitely one of the tools the sterilings could use. shelly in particular, if they want to gum up the process a little bit. if shelly were to file for divorce, then this whole situation would end upmost likely in front of a family

court judge. and that could at least, if nothing else, delay the process. because the court may need to look at the clippers as a marital asset that needs to be divided. they may need to bo through an evaluation process. at the end of the day. if this were just a normal divorce under normal stirks. they would probably say, okay, sell the team and split the proceeds, 50/50. that's what happened when the dodgers were the subject of a divorce as well. the mccourts divorced, and that's what happened. they sold the team and split the proceeds. so it may slow shings down, craig, but i don't think it's going to keep the sterlings owning the clippers much longer. >> this vote to oust them is scheduled for june 3rd. the nba needs three-quarters of voters to go along with it. is that vote public?

are we going to know how each owner votes? >> i know we expect a vast majority of owners to vote in favor of termination. f while they will not come out and say here's what the votes look like. if it's unanimous i think there's a good chance the league will volunteer in stating it was an unanimous vote so they all know it was unanimous. if they happen to get a vote or two against it, they will probably try to keep that quiet. the one that we have seen express public hesitation about the whole thing is marc cuban. he's not skrvl with the idea of term terminating someone's owner ship because of private comments. he had comments about how he and most people are a little bit bigoted. everyone is a little bit racist, as the song in the show goes. so it's interesting to see whether he will ultimately vote. i think the pressure on the

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nigerian schoolgirls. "the new york times" reports this morning that many involve fld the rescue effort say the military is not helping. boko haram has not let up. they've killed dozens of people in three villages this week alone. and the eve of the presidential election in ukraine. a man described as some by willy wonka because he made a fortune selling chocolate. officials expect some interference from pro-russian separatists. they've already threatened election staff, we're told. this weekend as the country remembers the men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice, there's new controversy surrounding the department of veteran affairs hospital scandal. there's been new calls for secretary eric shinseki to

resign. but house leader boehner said it goes deeper. >> this isn't about the secretary. it's the entire system underneath him. the general can leave and we can wait around for months to go through a nomination process. and we get a new person, but the disaster continues. >> brian mcgoff is a former employee and also an iraq and afghanistan war vet. congressman murphy was the first vet tran to serve in congress. he's host of the show taking the hill, that airs here on nbc msnbc. a new episode will air tomorrow. congressman jeff miller, the chairman of the the veteran committee said thursday there's much more to learn. this is the quote here. the scandal is just the tip of the iceberg. i know there's more to come. we received information and tips that will make what has already come out look like kindergarten stuff. congressman murphy, what else do

you think is out there? are you hearing there is more? >> we covered this on the program. there's a lot more in a sense that you have 22 veteran who is committed suicide every day. you have a civilian military gap in the nation. less than 1% of america served in iraq or afghanistan. there's a lot of issues people are not paying attention to. i hope they let the va know about the tips he's getting now. we have to make this better. we can't be playing politics with this. >> brian, the army times reported the new american customer satisfaction index, as it's called, found that veterans have positive feelings about the state of va health care in this country. . the va's satisfaction index for inpatient care. is it 84? index for outpatient care, 82. it's remained consistent for the

past year. it's held steady for a decade. a sign that generally va patients are content with their health care. you work for the va. does that jive with your experience? >> it absolutely does jive with my experience. i didn't work on the health care side of things. i know plenty veterans that go to the va for health care. i go to the va for health care. majority of people we talk to are satisfied with this. the va is a humongous system. there's over 5 million patients in the va in 2012. that's over 5 million unique patients. there are going to be some unfortunately who have issues. if these 40 veterans are on a secret waiting list, these are just allegations at this point. nothing has been proven. we don't know. there's an investigation looking to see if the allegations are true. if they are true, how horrible. this is still a small number of the veterans going in for health care. and this is not terribly

surprising to a lot of folks because the va is so massive and the resources at its disspoe sal have been stretched so thinly. >> the resources at the disposal are not stretched super thin. the problem is -- there's multiple problems. one is you have a congress that likes to use the power of the purse to push things a little far in my opinion and hold that over the va's head. so you have hospital administrators that are afraid to ask for more assets because they know it will come back of asking congress for more assets. but they're saying we're giving you plenty, we're giving you plenty. the standards are very high. he's trying to push them down to the field. if you have a situation with one hospital director who is, you know, as the military calls it shamming and trying to get away and pull one over on everyone, that hospital director needs to be held accountable. >> patrick, "washington post" columnist and his lump in the va scandal, lumped it with the trouble.

president obama's va scandal is the most serious and damaging of his presidency. it's the obama administration in some and in competent management of a health system, defended by crude media manipulation. how fair or unfair are the criticisms of president obama's administration and maybe his management style as well. >> i think it's an unfair attack. obamacare or affordable health care act rkts as you know, craig, was trying to help get people access to health care because there's millions without access. and every year when we vote in the bill in 2010 when i was still in congress. 26,000 americans, craig, died because they didn't have access to health insurance. and we can all agree that was a complete disaster. he got him in there to fix it.

and it's not that we can just not pay attention anymore. i will say i appreciate brian's comments. i disagree that the va is a major bureaucracy. but craig, the allegations that veterans that have died is unbelievable. and i know dr. sam foot is the whistle blower. he walked some of that back. the earlier reporting wasn't exactly accurate. but if one veteran died prematurely because they didn't have access to the va system, that's wrong. we need to make sure that never happens again. >> brian, patrick, should it be privatized? is that a conversation we should be having in this country? the privatetization of the va? >> absolutely not. you're talking about 5 million patients right now. where are these veterans going to go? >> patrick, really quickly? >> hell no. >> that was really quickly.

thank you, sir. former veteran affairs insider brian mcgough. patrick's program, taking the hill. tomorrow at 1:00 eastern on msnbc. it will be a good one. since the supreme court decision struck down the defensive marriage act, we've seen a steady stream nationwide. that was not the case years ago as they passed amendment two, banning same-sex marriage. that was argued before the colorado supreme court two decades ago today. >> the vast majority of coloradans who supported amendment two did not do so out of hatred or malice. they did not want government to intervene and impose values on an unwilling segment of the public in this most controversial area of public debate. >> the decision touched off months of dialogue and it mostly failed because people flocked to

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the writing is literally on the wall to fight air pollution. a poet and chemist teamed up to create what's being called the world's first air cleansing billboard. there it is there. it's a poem written on a special piece of paper, a massive piece of paper. it soaks up pollution created by 20 cars every day. the giant poster is hanging on the side of a building at the university of sheffield in the united kingdom. it's going to hang for a year. by the time they take it down, it will have collected pollution from about 7,300 cars. and now to this big idea. a toilet pan. that's right. a toilet pan that can reduce the spread of diseases in the developing world. it's today's big idea. american standard developed this sanitary toilet pan. it has a trap door that

completely seals up litrines from the open air. that's a major source of diseases in the developing world. but what may be the best part about particularly this big idea is the cost. it's just a $1.50. jim is joining me live now. let's start with how you guys came about developing this thing. walk us through it. >> craig, great to be here. this started in 2011 when the gates foundation afounsed the reinvent the toilet challenge. we heard about that. we figured we have to be involved in this. we suggested a few ways in which we thought we would help. one was to utilize the product development expertise to design a more hygienic product that people could use to use simple pit litrines. >> i don't think a lot of folks appreciate how big of a deal

this this is in other countries, jim. >> yeah, it's a huge deal. there's about 2.5 billion people who do not have access to safe sanitation. >> and every day 1,400 children die from diseases caused by unsafe water or inadequate sanitation. you saw the effects when you took a trip to bangladesh, india. how confident are you that this is the invention that can bring those numbers down? >> well, that's true. it was march 2012. a colleague of mine teamed up with i.e.d. international development enterprises. they do a lot of sanitation work and studied what people are currently doing in bangladesh to build the trains. the way it's done in the past and still pretty much today,

they'll dig a hole. they'll line it with concrete rings and place a concrete slab with a plastic pan like this that acts like a toilet bowl. and these are poor flush latrines. and they use the teapots, some of the water to cleanse themselves, and the rest to pour into the latrine to give it a flush. the the big issue is the pans have no seal, they're just open down into the pit. that's not a good thing. >> so you had the fecal matter that seeps into the ground. >> it seeps into the ground. but the openness allows flying insects to get in and out and continue to transmit disease. the other issue is it smells really bad. and people don't like to use these latrine. so we brought the challenge back to the team in new jersey.

the number one toilet in consumer reports, and they came up with this pan, which i have an example of here. >> show it to us. this is the only place where you are going to see a toilet demonstration. >> great. well, i'm not going to gallon stra demonstrate the toilet. it looks similar to the old one, except with now we have a trapped door at the bottom. and that's counterred with filling it with concrete. during the insulation process when this is cast in the concrete, they fill this up cup up with concrete. it can still be flushed with a teapot. the weight of the water will open the door and allow everything to fall down into the pit. but the weight is sufficient to close it quickly and keep a little bit of water in this door that keeps a water tight seal that blocks smell from coming

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this guy, black guy, infiltrates the ku klux klan. . that's not the start of a joke. not a reference to the chappelle show skit, which i will give you in a second. this craziness happened. for nearly a year in the 1970s, ron stalworth is his name. he was then a detective at the

colorado spings police department. he went undercover and became a card carrying member of the kkk. he talked to leaders by phones and when face-to-face meetings had to be held, he used a white cop using his name. he talked to the grand wizard himself several times a week. he became so popular that he was vote ed to lead the local chapt. ron stallworth is the author of black klansman. again, the first black detective in your department. why did they have you do it? why not get one of the white cops to infiltrate the kkk? >> well, i was the officer on duty at the time. first of all, how are you? watch your show all the time. i was the officer on duty at the time. and i was the one that saw the ad in the newspaper, in the classified section, and i responded to the ad.

i didn't think it was going to amount to anything. >> how does it even read? >> it read ku klux klan for information, and then there was a post office box underneath. so i wrote a letter. and used all the buzz words of that that they like to hear and like to use and said i was interested in getting more information, and then i made a critical error, i signed my real name instead of the undercover name i usually used. but i signed my name. gave the undercover phone line, and gave the undercover post office box address and mailed the letter off. >> too late to turn back. when my team and i first heard about this, we immediately thought of the dave chappelle show skit where he spoofs the idea of a black guy becoming a white supremacist. take a look. >> right. >> we are looking for clayton bigsby. >> well, look no further,

fellow, you found me. >> clayton bigsby, the author. >> what, you don't think i can write them books? just because i'm blind don't mean i'm dumb. >> how could this have happened? >> a black white supremacist. >> and for obvious obscenity reasons we can't show more than that clip. you were the real life clayton bigsby, sir. how were you able to pull it off? walk us through that. >> well, i basically talked to them on the phone p pretended i was a white supremacist with their same values, the same sense, projected the same rhetoric, the same values and i used the buzz words of hate they like to use and like to hear. when i talked to the local organizer on the phone, he said you're just the kind of guy we want to talk to. we want to meet. and i arranged a meeting for him

but obviously couldn't go. i got a white officer to pose as me and sent him in my place. that's how we pulled it off. when it required a face-to-face, i sent a white officer. >> could they not tell your voices apart when you sent the white officer? >> they weren't the brightest light bulbs in the socket. let me put it that way. they should have been able to know they were talking to two different people. our voices are distinctly different. and sometimes i would send the the officer into a meeting. he would be there for an hour, come back to my office, and i would want to follow up on something said at the meeting, so i would wait a half hour and pick up the phone and call them. and i would engage them in whatever topic it was over the phone. and only one time was i ever challenged. the guy said, you sound different. what's wrong with you? i said, oh, i coughed a little bit. oh, i have a sinus problem. .

no big deal. >> he said, yeah, i give those all the time and then proceeded to give me a remedy for it. >> what were your conversations with david duke? i understand you had a number of conversations with dave duke. what were those like? >> he was very cordial to me because he thought i was one of them. and we talked about a variety of topics, including his family. he loved his children, loved his wife. we talked about them and the beauty of their being in his life. he was very pleasant conversati conversationalist. when he wasn't talking his klan ideology, he was a pleasant individual. the minute the klan subject came up, he became a monster, so to speak. we talked about that. david duke never used the "n"

word in public. on the phone we threw the "n" word around like a baseball. . back and forth. >> not to cut you off, we're running out of time. but ats the end of the day, it was all about preventing any incidents from the kkk. how many incidents do you think you were able to stop? incidents of hate crimes. >> well, i know we prevented at least three cross burnings, because i got invited to participate in them. they told me the location, and they b told me how they were going to initiate the burning of the cross. he would dispatch extra patrol units to that specific site at the appointed time. and they would chicken out once they got there and saw how many cops were there. >> ron stallworth, we're going to have to leave it there. t a fascinating story. thank you for your time. seven people are dead after

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>> the lgtb debate is heating up in houston. it's one of the country's largest cities, but it does not have something that many smaller do have. laws to protect lgbt residents. one woman is trying to change that. also, rosie the riveter. this memorial day weekend we're honoring our vets and the millions of women who jumpeded into the workplace after the men went off to war. . this weekend is also the unofficial start to the travel season. if you're looking for great deals, we have you covered on that front as well. good saturday to you again. i'm craig melvin. we start with the breaking story from california this afternoon. we're learning more about the investigation into the shooting rampage that left seven people dead, including the gunman. authorities are looking at a youtube video called ellio elliot rodgers' retribution.

they believe their son is the suspected gunman. recently talked to police. the gunman's name, ellio elliot rodger. the rampage happened near the campus of uc santa barbara. according to sheriff deputies, the suspect, rodgers shot the victim while he was inside the black bmw. they say he was driving the bmw, and they believe at this point he was acting alone. officials are investigating nine different crime scenes right now. they say the suspect died from a gunshot wound. at this point it's not clear if rodger shot himself or if deputies shot him. this is what one witness said he saw. >> i realized what was going on and ran across the park. i kind of took cover there. and there was a few people that were with me on the other side. >> did you see the car? >> yes. he doubled back and exchanged fire, and it looked like there was somebody on the ground. at first i thought it was

somebody else exchanging fire with him. somebody later said it was a deputy. >> jennifer bjorklund is live for us in isla vista. we have the suspected gunman's name at this point. what more do we know? >> reporter: well, i can tell me the scene has changed. you right now, craig, p behind they have taken the car away, and they're going to be doing a lot of forensic investigation on that. it's still a very active set of crime scenes. there are nine total. it started last night at 9:30 as a rolling rampage came through the streets of isla vista. this is adjacent to the uc santa barbara campus. the sheriff investigators are looking into the youtube videos attributed to the alleged shooter and some written evidence that says possibly this was a premeditated mass murder. >> what sort of written evidence, jennifer? >> reporter: i believe he kept

a -- yeah, he kept a blog. and he actually wrote -- he wrote a lot on some online forums, that they're also looking at as well. with the youtube videos, there was some sense he said he had taken the videos down in recent weeks. just because they were upsetting to his family. i think a lot of things written on the the youtube videos and in the comments, they're going to be looking at that and some facebook posts as well. >> jennifer bjorklund for us on the ground there in isla vista. jennifer, thank you. i want to bring back nbc larnlt analyst, retired special agent jim cavanaugh. i understand you have seen one of the videos. what was on the video? >> it's a very disturbing video. the guy is laying out his suicidal and homicidal manifesto and how he's going to kill everyone he's mad at for his perceived wrongs.

it's not out of character for a spree killer who has been on revenge and maybe suffering from mental illness to do something like that. it's going to give police insight into his mind, and what they're going to want to do is give the youtube to forensic psychologists and behavioral . >> what would it take? if this was a youtube video that was up for some time, and at this point it appears it was up for a bit, what would it take for police to act on a video like that? >> well, what should happen, craig, let's talk about what should happen if you're a police commander and this comes to your attention, you should immediately dispatch law enforcement. if you can, if your department has crisis negotiators, that we used to call hostage negotiators, a detective, go interview the man, the 22-year-old. go interview him right away.

it's on public video. it's on youtube. you want to kill others. let mem deal with it. maybe they'll find weapons, a bomb. he had bombs all over the house. he may see him and make an arrest. otherwise they can refer to him for mental heflt evaluation. as a uniform police officer, i took many people under health care. we had statutes to allow us to do that. we would take them to a medical doctor or psychiatrist. they can evaluate them to see if they're going to hurt someone. so there should be no delay. when it comes to law enforcement, you immediately react. >> jim, standby for me. i want to play a clip of one video. we have taken great care to make sure that what we have showing is appropriate and i want you to show you the video and talk to

you about it on the other side. here's a snid bit of it. >> i don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me. but i will punish you all for it. it's an injustice, a crime. because i don't know what you don't see in me. i'm the perfect guy. and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men. instead of me. the supreme gentleman. i will push all of you for it. >> jim cavanaugh, that's beyond disturbing. clearly premeditated there. and the video goes on for some time. how likely is it that there were signs before this? >> well, likely there were. these guys are slow boil. they work up to this and they

tell others. they tell neighbors, friends, coworkers, family members, youtube, facebook. they're not a total secret. somehow the motivation slipped out. and the rest of us have to do something about that. we have to recognize that the the notice is there. that's the notice. we have to call authorities. and authorities have to act quickly, too. they have to dispatch the right trained detectives and negotiators to assess it. and the mental health professionals come in and do a great job every day of interrupting and intervening in many of these cases that we don't hear about. and when one slips through, then you have tragedy like santa barbara is facing today. and from a criminal standpoint, craig, it's clearly premeditated murder, but i think anybody who looks at that can see this guy is obviously suffering some mental disabilities here, and a forensic psychologist, psychiatrist could probably tell us a lot more. >> we've turned out one more clip.

we want to play just one more clip. we're not going to play them all afternoon. this is precisely what gunmen like this want. but this is one more clip from the suspected gunman. take a look. >> you denied me a happy life. and in turn i will deny all of you life. >> seems to be taking great pleasure in what he's allegedly about to do there. >> right. he's obviously homicidal, suicidal, mentally challenged at this point, and he wants to get those who he believes have wronged him, his belief, his grudge, his revenge is that, and i agree with you, craig, 100%, that this guy gets his few hours and a little bit of infamy, and then he should be forgotten in the pages of history. let's remember the victims. >> let's remember the seven

people still recovering and the seven lives we lost. jim cavanaugh, as always, thank you for your insight. in washington right now there's a push to make something old new again. lawmakers introduce bill this week to restore funding for research on gun violence. the money has slowly dried up since the '90s, leaving americans with unreliable statisti statistics. and it leaves advocates for gun control with a big hole when arguing for tougher laws. tell us about the bill and what it would do. >> well, craig, unfortunately in america, more children die of gun wounds than of cancer. twice as many people die from being shot. like we heard happened in santa barbara last night. and our bill calls for nearly $10 million in funding in the center for disease control for gun violence.

what can we do to try to prevent it? yet, this has been stopped in the united states congress. the republicans have passed legislation saying you cannot study gun violence. >> why? >> ask them. i don't know of any issue that is so controversial it can't be debated and studied and researched. to me it's outrageous. president obama with an executive order has tried to lift the ban. but we need the funding. now it has nearly $11 billion. we're asking for $10 billion. we spend $5 billion a year in cancer research. yet more people die of gun wounds. we need to study kauss and effects. >> specifically what kinds of statistics or research would we get with this funding that we are not getting right now? >> well, there's no research now on gun violence. just what happened today. >> no federal research. state by state research.

>> and not for profits. but no federal research. that's usually the most reliable and best funded. yet, we can't get $1 in it because of this ban. it's the only area in the entire government where they ban the research. we could look at certain things and how you store your guns, the connection with mental health and gun violence. there's so many areas that you could look at that researchers want to look at but can't get the funding to do it. >> is it really about money? $10 million is a lot of money to me and you. when you start talking about the amount of money that a federal government spends, it's a drop in the bucket. >> it is a drop in the budget and the bucket. what is it about? >> it's about stopping any type of research in the area of gun violence. it started and propelled by the nra, and yet many of their members support background

checks and the support making and selling an illegal gun a felon. support areas that could make our country safer with more gun safety and end to gun violence. >> while i have you here, i want to talk to you really quickly about the hearing. the latest benghazi hearing, secretary of state john kerry, as it was reported yesterday, is going to be a i peering before your committee. you're on the oversight committee. is what do we expect to hear from secretary kerry that we have not heard already? >> we've already had five investigations. really, craig, seven people died last night. more died in benghazi. yet we can't get $10 million to investigate the relationship between mental health problems and gun violence. and we have investigated this from a to z, in five different committees. five separate investigations. i look forward to hearing what secretary kerry has the to say.

i don't think we'll learn anything new. >> why did the democrats change their mind? initially a number of democrats said they would not participate in the latest rounds of hearings. what changed in the meetings with democratic leadership? >> well, i believe it's just a witch hunt. it's a waste of time. yet, they're having endless amount of revenue spent and endless hours focusing on a tragedy. it was a tragedy. as was the tragedy in santa barbara. more people died last night than in benghazi. every life is sacred and every life should be protected. but we lost 58,000 americans in the past two years. in 20 years we lost 58,000

troops in bomb combat. yet, they're preventing us from studying gun violence and its causes and spending hundreds of millions of dollars investigating the investigation of the investigation of the investigation. say benghazi is a problem enough and the american people will believe it. it seems like one investigation after another after another. the most important thing to come out of the hearings is a list of recommendations from the state department on how to make our overseas and personnel safer. the state department and government have moved to implement every single one of them. that's important. that will save lives in the future. >> new york congresswoman caroline malo ney. >> thank you. >> what's the new baby's name? >> delano. we call him del.

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there's a debate heating up in houston right now. the fourth largest city in the country is lacking something in other cities have, a law protecting the equal rights of lgbt residents. houston has an openly gay mayor. her name is denise parker. she's drafted an ordnance to try to fix that. it goes up for a city council vote on tuesday. it's been met with heavy resistance. ellen cohen joins me live from houston. she's a member of the city council. she's cast a vote on the ordnance tuesday i understand. councilwoman, why does houston need this ordnance? >> well, that's a very good

question. we need this ordnance because houston, as all other cities and places in this world, need to treat people with the dignity and respect they deserve. houston itself has a greatest ethnic diversity in any city in the country. as a result we want people to feel welcomed and accepted and we have no local ordnance to do that. >> what would this ordnance do that existing laws currently do not? >> well, we have no local laws. there are laws on the book federally that say you can't discriminate. but we don't have anything locally. . in fact, that's why i got involved. a friend of mine brought it to my attention. two of the men she works with in a law firm went to a bar, and they happened to be african-american, and they were refused admittance.

and she said, where they can go and who can they talk to? and i checked into it. and locally they didn't have in place to go and express the grievances. so this ordnance passing in houston, for houston, will give anyone who has been discriminated a place to go. >> a vote on the ordnance we understand was delayed earlier this month. mayor parker said that she had the votes to pass it up, or to pass it, rather. if that was the case, what was the holdup? >> i missed the first part of what you said. but we do have the votes. we believe we have the votes to pass it. there was a council member who wanted to add an amendment to the ordnance and a number of people around tennessee table want to look into it more and understand it. and we will be voting on wednesday. the fact of the matter is it's going to be a very long day

because we have a public session first, which we'll have well over 200,000 people to testify. later in the day when that's completed, we'll have the vote with the 17 council members. >> was that the bathroom clause? >> that amendment, people have tagged it as the bathroom clause. it was really to make sure people were respected and able to use facilities that we most relate to. again, i want to say this one thing. this is not an lgbt ordnance. this is to show respect and dignity. it's nondiscrimination for all group ls. >> and what are the other groups? >> the other groups are one i don't say u know at the federal level. those based on age, religion, sex, disability. any of the other groups that

typically you cannot discriminate against. >> koun sim woman, thank you. we look forward to that on tuesday. houston is one of several cities with protection for the gay communities right now. there's a lot more on the website, including the outcomes of recent efforts. that's at msnbc.com/craigmelvin. really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention.

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we want to get you caught up on the breaking story we've been following on msnbc. an attorney for the family now confirmed to nbc news that elliot rodger is the gunman in the mass shooting in california.

investigators are saying they're hoping a youtube video featuring them will give them some insight into a possible motive. the family attorney says that rodger's parents were aware of that post and contacted police out of concern. last night's shooting killed seven people, including rodgers. we know at least one of the injured is now in surgery. all of this went down before 7:00 local time near the campus of the university of california santa barbara. and again, according to the family, according to the family attorney, allen shiftman telling nbc news that he suffereded from a form of asbergers as well. we will continue to gather that information and pass it along to you as it becomes available. . in the last hour, oregon has lifted an order telling people

to boil their water. test results came back this morning. the test results were clear. . meanwhile, in nigeria, the search continues overseas for the kidnapped nigerian schoolgirls. t but reports say the military is not exactly taking control of the investigation. boko haram has not let up. they've killed dozens of people in three villages just this week alone. . another day. another nba owner making comments about race that led to an apology. mark cuban owns the dallas mavericks. the created quite the stir when he admitted wednesday that he is prejudice and he also has some bigotries. >> i know i'm prejudice. i know i'm bigoted in a lot of ways. and i've said this before. if i see a black kid in a hoodie at night on the other side of

street, on the same side of the street, i'm probably going to walk to the other side. other than safety issues, i try to catch my privileges and recognize and be very self aware that, you know, my stream of thought is never perfect and i've got to be careful. >> i want to bring in james peterson. msnbc contributor and professor at lehigh university. professor peterson, thank you for being on with me. we should know cuban has apologized to the family of trayvon martin for obvious reasons there. those comments notwithstanding, professor peterson, what do you make of what cuban said. >> i think the message that he's trying to communicate is important. but it's ineffective. by the nature that he had to issue the apology disfrakts from what he's trying to say there.

those are racial biases, class biases, gender biases and those affect things constitutionally and systematically in terms of jobs, hiring and firing, in terms of promotions, the kinds of decisions people make with weapons in their hands. a real problem that most folk are going to be confronted with and don't know about. and the sample he's going to lose is so insensitive to the current moment. we're essentially not talking about the issue anyway. and so he detracted from his own message and the ways in che he tried to communicate with it. >> you use the term implicit bias. and that's not a term that we use a lot on cable news. explain to folks what implicit bias is, and how as you put it

so eloquently there, we all have them. we make decisions informeded by what psychologist refer to as social bias. . when you see something, there's certain itchly kagss that you dra based on what you have seen. they're not logical. they're not informational. they're not based on your experiences. they're based on the images that you see of people of color or women in the media. and again, even black people make decisions based upon implicit bias. and thgs what he was trying -- this is what mark cuban is trying to say. everyone has these buy seize. but t biases. but we have a lot more to do to understand p what bias is. and one more step for folks to understand, everyone has bias. the real question is how is the bias used. how do we root it out? and who are the people in power

that make the bias decisions that impact the people implicit live? >> you know steven. he's been widely criticized for his comments on cuban's comments. he said, quote, i want to emphasize i have absolutely, positively no problem whatsoever with what mark cuban had to this say. zero. so then this is what he said yesterday defending that remark. take a listen. >> i don't care who in the black community disagrees with me. i'm not interested in their agreement at the particular issue. they're not looking at the bigger picture here. mark cuban in the same breath that he talked about walking across the street from a black dude in a hoodie, followed that up by talking about the white dude who is bald headed with tats all over his face and body and what have yo u. >> i think we can infer from

that that steven crosses the street when he sees a black dude in a hoodie or guys who have tats. what say you to that? it seems any time someone talks about race, they catch it from all sides. >> yeah, we are not capable of having held vi conversations about race for a couple of reasons. we're too caught up in the conversation about what people are wearing. that shows the bias that the society is dominated by now anyway. and we're so focused on the sensational issues. something mark cuban or dan sterling says, instead of being focused on larger systemic issues, the more persistent issues that are the constitution of what race is in america and what racism is in america right now. i love steven a. smith. he's a great sports commentator. he's wrong here in the sense that this is less about whether or not you think that you should cross the street when you see

someone wearing something and more about the fact that more black men and black boys were shot, beaten and killed based upon the implicitly bias decisions. it's not just when they wear hoodies either. >> >> they can dress like prefs sor peterson. always good to see you. i'm glad you carved out time for us. thanks for coming in memorial day weekend. speaking of memorial day, it was an iconic image of world war ii on the home front. rhoshosie the riveter. she symbolized the millions of american women who jumped into the workplace to take the place of men who went off to war. . some 6 million women entered the workplace, which runs the rhoshii the riveter national park in california. f 3 million of those women worked in war plants. others in more traditional jobs. ann montague is the founder of a

group dedicated to fostering rosie the rif theer. you talk about the rosie legacy. what does that mean to you? >> well, the rosie legacy means to me we have forgotten most of the women and now they are dying. and now we are about to in america realize that the women not only have wonderful stories to tell, but the women are still able very, very often to at least make decisions on how the legacy will be passed on, even if they can't be physically involved. . and sometimes as often as possible, we make arrangements for them to be involved. so we work to get projects for

any community in america. to get to know the rosie the riveters and to get to do something that leaves part of the legacy behind. >> you talked to some of the women who worked during world war ii for a documentary called "we pulled together." i want to play just a little bit of what one woman said to you. >> okay. >> the wartime almost now seems like a dream. cause when i think of some of the things that we did, i don't know whether we could repeat it today or not. >> what do you think about that? >> well, i'm going to tell you what i think. i have so held onto that one statement, and i have decided over the last couple of years that we can pull together in america, it's a matter of will be we. we can do anything we want to in america. will we? and i think we were going to

have a national movement that will successfully pull america together because they want to know what's been left out in the american history of world war ii and what women can do, even at age 90. >> ann montague. i wish we had more time. we had a lot of breaking news today. did this week's primary mark the end of the tea party as we know it? that's a question floating all around washington and beyond this weekend. this week, rather. we're going to tackle that right after this. they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. bp supports more than aca quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america.

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the gop establishment trumped tea party candidates in gop primaries on tuesday. the big winner, of course, senate minority leader, who beat back a challenge by matt bevins. mcconnell took more than 60% of the vote. this is what npr's rob elving wrote. quote, the the time has come for us all to take a long step back, look at this thick we call the tea party. @ results from republican primaries strongly suggest the party such as it was is over. is that accurate? >> in some ways. the tea party such as it was was over. but it's living on in a lot of ways inside the republican party. if you think back to the republican party under president bush, that was a party that spent a huge amount of money, had record deficits. was okay with tarp, with bailouts and that sort of thing.

and the tea part has certainly, they are having a very tough time getting their candidates to beat folks in primaries. that's something i don't think is going to change, and something that i think is going to continue. but in doing that, they are forcing the candidates who are winning to change their positions or at least modify their positions, and that's going to have an eskts. >> this may be what he's talking about. the monday before the primaries. our own casey hunts found none of the gop for the georgia senate there, this is what they said about the tea party label. take a listen. >> do you consider yourself a member of the tea party? >> well, tell me what that is. i have many ideals that we agree

on. >> well, somebody who i support so much of the tea party values. >> you know, i get a little frustrated with all of the different labels out there. i suppose, yes, i would be tea party. >> i suppose. i kind of am. maybe. . i mean, i mean, we should also note here that kingston and purdue will be facing a runoff for the senate nod. what do you make of the unwillingness to move away from the label itself? >> well, it has everything to do with the fact, i mean, it's almost like they're radio active. the gop establishment, gop voters decided what we need to do is figure out how it is that we're going to stay in power, be relevant and part of the conversation and more importantly have some kind of -- make 2016 in some ways in play. not that long ago the conservatives were saying that a chris christie could never, ever make it out of a gop primary,

and for example compete for president. all of the sudden, bridgegate aside, his lot is certainly looking a lot better. i think there are a couple of questions, though, we need to think about going forward, craig. f that has to do with, for example, for november, is the gop establishment able to convince the tea party to fold in and support establish. candidates in order to stay gop? for the gop to stay competitive and not give up the competitive races from democrats. in general, midterm elections as you know don't tend to be characterized by people going out in droves, the way you see the presidential. . absolutely. i this i the the last thing, too, just really quickly, is what kind of flash points may emerge from here until november, like the economy, for example. >> rebecca, how will we know if and when the tea party is dead? what's the measure?

>> well, the interesting thing -- well, there's two things happening here. the first is that clearly we've learned from the primary season, if we didn't know before, the republican establishment has ha figured out how to run against the tea party. so as an electoral force, they don't have the element of surprise anymore. they both have now candidates who know how to run against them, who know how to beat back the challengers and an establishment that's ready for them and able to beat them back. so instead of seeing these candidates peaking after the primary, we're seeing them peak before the primary. but to a certain extent, the label itself, part of the difficulty you're seeing here, the big lights of the tea party, the rand pauls and marco rubios, the ted cruz's, there's so many little policy ground between them, it's kind of difficult for even republican voters to say exactly what the tea party needs at this point. >> we're going to have to leave it there. i wish we had more time for you guys. vivian from the wise, rebecca from politico, peter from

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pope francis started his historic trip to the middle east today with a stop in jordan. the pope celebrated mass before a crowd of thousands in amman's international stadium. the trip itself marks the first time a pope is traveling with leaders of other faith. a rabbi and an imam are both accompanying the pope on this trip. claudia is in the capital of amman. >> reporter: craig, tens of thousands of people welcomed the holy father on his first trip to the holy land. pope francis landed in amman this morning, on the first leg

of the trip that will take him also to the palestinian territories and israel, where he held a big mass at the international stadium here in front of a crowd of more than 20,000 people. but it was mostly for the hundreds of thousands of refugees, many of them christians who have found refugee in this country after they were forced to flee from neighbors countries like syria, the palestinian territories, and as far as iraq, because of war, persecution, and economic constrai constraint. in jordan, christians believe that jesus was baptized to meet some of these refugees and tell them, you are not alone. but the pope is trying to keep these pilgrimages as entwined as he can. the pope will be walking a political tightrope. craig? >> reporter: all right, our man, claudio lavanga, traveling with

the pope there in the middle east, mixing a little religion with a little politics. we'll have more on that tomorrow. that's going to do it for us on this saturday afternoon. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 eastern. right now, though, "disrupt with karen finney." karen, what do you have on tap? >> hey, chris. we're going to update folks on the latest on that mass shooting overnight in california and then we'll pivot and talk about some of the biggest political stories from the week, including, we think this tea party is still going strong, no matter what anybody says. and a trifecta of moves this week proves that the war is not even close to being over. "disrupt" will be right back after this. new car! hey! [squeals] ♪

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>> the santa barbara county sheriff is calling this a premeditated mass murder by a suspect who was severely mentally disturbed. >> around 9:30 pacific time last night, gunfire rang out from a suspected attacker, driving a black bmw. >> i heard somewhere between 12 and 20 shots. >> did you see the car? >> yes, he doubled back and exchanged fire. >> seven people are dead, seven others wounded. >> nine separate crime scenes that stretch over about eight blocks. >> we are not releasing the suspect's name until a positive identification can be made. >> police are also investigating a youtube video posted before the shooting spree that's been described as a manifesto and a warning, a specific warning. >> likely in a spree killing like this, the motives are going to surround revenge and hatred. he hates somebody and he's seeking revenge.