join me back here next saturday/sunday 4:00 p.m. eastern. let me know what you think. for now i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and politics nation. [ music playing ] good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, washington on high alert. you to the the news coming out of the impeachment inquiry last week was a whirlwind. the week ahead is going to give you whiplash. four potentially explosive depositions happening on capitol hill. most of the testimony by diplomats who will defy orders by the white house and the state department to not cooperate with the impeachment inquiry. the most impact from witness testimony is expected on thursday when the ambassador to the european union meets with

congress. a key figure in the impeachment inquiry. gordon sonland who owns and mansion hotels all over the world, donated a cool million dollars to trump's inauguration fund. nbc news can now confirm that the focus of his testimony will be on the text messages he exchanged with bill taylor, the acting u.s. ambassador to ukraine. remember, sonland is the official who insists in those messages that the president wasn't asking for a quid pro quo. but "the washington post" predicts that sonland will quote blow a hole in that defense, unquote. he is expectsed to tell lawmakers he was only relaying trump's message and has no idea if it was actually true a new

poll shows growing support for impeachment, but fought repofl from office. 24% support impeachment and removal while 31% prefer impeachment inquiry only. so on day 20 of the impeachment inquiry, can the president deal with the massive cracks and leaks threatening to sink this white house? joining me now, amy holmes, a former speech writer for republican leader bill frisk and pete domenic comedienne and host of the radio show "stand up" on sirius xm. amy, it looks like a week that we're going to almost have daily testimonies, depositions, and i'm sure we'll get some of that leaked out or put out. it could be an explosive week for the president. >> it could be. but reverend, we really don't

know. and we we have been to this movie before. you remember when cnn falsely reported that james comey was going to testify that he had not given alert to president trump as trump had been insisting. he was under investigation. they were completely wrong. the testimony ended up being absolutely the reverse. the problem here, reverend, with what's happening, is it has all been behind closed doors. we are only getting drips, drab, leaks and spins from people behind those closed doors. we're not getting any transparency. >> isn't the problem, amy, and pete i want you to weigh in on this. sondhappen land can say either president told him to say that or there was no quid pro quo and have to explain why it wasn't and put himself right in the middle of the deal? >> sondland is under oath. >> that is to tell the truth of what he knows or doesn't know. he doesn't necessarily know --

>> he knows whether it was quid pro quo or not. >> he only knowss what the president toldle. does he necessarily know -- the point is reverend -- >> they're going to say, he was going to say i was only told what the president said, to not say that is he has knowledge that it personally was not there, how does he say it? >> i don't think he k. amy is right, he is not going to say and reporting in the past has been wrong. i'm not that concerned with what he says. the president has already admitted to extorting a foreign power for his own specific political -- there and soliciting -- >> both the ukraine, soliciting china. he said it to cameras and microphone, so we've got him. he's completely guilty. not to mention the ten instances of obstruction of justice that the mueller investigation found and the public opinion is obviously changing. if the democrats don't drop the ball, it's only going to make the case that much more. it's important to hear what people are saying in these

hearings. >> wouldn't you like to know? >> why aren't they? >> let's pick up on that point, in an interview today, house intelligence chairman adam schiff explained why his committee was not holding public hearings. >> we may very well call some of the same witnesses or all the same witnesses in public hearings as well, but we want to make sure that we meet the needs of the investigation and not give the president or his legal mignons the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases fabricate testimony to suit their interests. . >> so that's why not. >> so, in other words, he doesn't want the president to present a defense, that he wants to be able to pick and choose who they interview, who they you know grill. >> well, aren't these proceedings of the grand jury and the defense come to trial? >> when it comes to partisan on capitol hill, it's not a grand jury. >> you decide here whether you vote for impeachment, which is

an indictment, then you have the trial and the president will have a defense all he wants. if he can be quiet between now and then and not confess himself. here's a man charged with interfering foreign powers and comes out and says i want russia and china and everybody. >> hold on. if this were to be like a grand jury, that means that no members of the going are supposed to be discussing what happens in testimony to the press and public in anyway. also, it's supposed to be top secret in the first place. this is not like -- >> you don't have to wore about it. because republicans on the committee are going to go back to the president and tell them exactly what this guy said. >> as he should know. >> that's what it is. this ukraine scandal seems the more than of the any number of scandals we've heard from about this white house has seen to turn the public more against the

president than any of the preceding ones. and i think the big difference here is you are seeing over half of those polled saying we want to see an inquiry or him write, put right out of office. this is not the run of the mill kind of thing. >> it's so easy to understand. if you want to defend it, i'm super entertained listening to people trying to defend the president of the united states reach -- extorting a foreign leader, an ally in ukraine and china, an adversary, saying find dirt on my political opponents. this is very easy for the american people to understand. my daughters understand this really well. they're smart, but they're 12 and 14. this guy did a terrible thing not for america but for his own political interests. >> i think the difference here -- i think the difference here as compared to previous quote/unquote scandal is that the american people have been able to read the rough transcript, if they so choose and i have.

i have been able to look through it and make their own judgment and decision. when i read biden's name. hold on, let me finish. >> i think the american people read the summation. >> he said it to a camera. >> and the president said in that summation, that, in fact, this is what was said. >> well, what he said. >> you don't have to read the whole thing. >> hold on, everybody. what he said to the camera is i'm extorting ukraine and china. >> yeah, he did. >> he said go look up dirt. do i like it,? no, i don't. when i read the part about joe biden. i thought it was inappropriate and unethical. >> that is why there is an inquiry going on. >> time out. we are not talking about what he said. we're talking about it he said it holding up wait a minute holding up $400 million of military aid to ukraine that had been approved by the u.s. congress. him having bad manners is not what we're talking about. we're talking about

congressional approved money that he's holding up that he's having this discussion. that's what makes the difference. >> yes, it does make a difference. i understand the context. as we are investigating, which i think is appropriate, the context of this phone call, we've also learned the president of ukraine said he was not even aware that this money had been held up and in point of fact the money was released in september. well, you remember the testimony because it doesn't fit your narty. the other testimony does. >> we are not dismissing a narrative. >> the president of ukraine said he didn't know about it. >> clearly, the president, i'm sure the president of ukraine circled, knew the money was being held up. that was one of the reasons they wanted the call. >> that's a deposition and investigations are all about. >> everybody in ukraine, first of all, they would not have wanted the military aid if they didn't call up to find out they were granted the military aid and they had not received it. let me go to another point,

earlier on "meet the press" republican senator rand paul was asked whether it was okay for rudy guiliani to have been dispatched to ukraine to advocate an investigation against the bidens. listen to this. >> are you comfortable with the role rudy guiliani has been playing on behalf of the president? >> i don't really know enough, he traveled over there to seek information on hunter biden's corruption. i think a lot of americans see the $50,000 a month hunter biden was making and it didn't pass the smell test. >> i see you wanted to get that in there. you think it's okay for him to go and seek heap in a campaign? >> i think it's equally as the democrats going there and saying, hey, we should investigate trump. >> is it appropriate the president should send rudy guiliani his personal la you are to find dirt on his potential opponent? >> no, if rudy guiliani wanted to do this as a private sid or a journalist or any other

capacity, of course, he can go and investigate whomever he likes. but he was doing it as a capacity for the lawyer for the president. i think that was inappropriate. it is appropriate to have the department of justice to be looking into all this rudy guiliani running around ukraine, talking to his mysterious ukraine sources on behalf of the president i did not think was appropriate. >> this is outrageous. first of all, the president's last personal secretary is in jail for doing his crimes. >> michael cohen. >> of course. rudy guiliani may be indicted by his former office the spny. the ives are out, i predict rudy guiliani will turn into a bat and sing like bird on trump and tell them everything he knows. the idea you would send your personal attorney to do, to investigate your actual domestic political opponent what president trump has done is a criminal abuse of power. there is no way to spin it. >> rudy guiliani is going to turn on trump or trump is going to turn on rudy? i'm asking?

>> he will throw him in the michael cohen bin. he will toss away rudy guiliani the way he's tossed away every single close member of his group he's worked with. everybody that he's ever worked with. >> we will have more with amy and peter later in the show. coming up after one more week of trump versus biden saga, new polls are out showing just how this back and forth is affecting the former vp. first, my colleague richard luis with other stories we are watching this hour. >> reporter: hi, rev, police are on the scene in boca raton, florida, police say there is now no active shooter at the town center mall. they're searching the area to figure out what happened. one person was wounded transported to the hospital. no word yet on whether the shooter is in custody or not. rescue crews are still coming through rubble at a hard rock construction site in new orleans. >> that collapsed yesterday. more than 100 workers were on site when that building suddenly

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unfounded attacks on joe biden and his son this week despite taking heat from all angles in the ongoing impeachment inquiry. this as a few poll indicates some early state voters read biden's response to the president's antics could have been better. three in four voters are very or somewhat satisfied with biden's response. nearly a quarter of those surveyed were somewhat or very dissatisfied. and it looks like the president's smears could be hurting biden's standing among democratic voters. >> that same poll shows biden trailing massachusetts senator elizabeth warren by six points in early primary and caucus states. 31% to the former vp's 25. joining me now is the mayor of tlaebt, a surrogate -- of

atlanta, a surrogate for the biden campaign. welcome back to "politics nation" madam mayor. >> thank you for having me, reverend al. >> how do you read the poll numbers with seeming, with these polls in the early states that the former vice president is now behind nor warren? >> i think that poll numbers fluctuate. i don't think that's anything to be concerned about. but what i do know is that when i went to south carolina a few weeks ago for the vice president, his spoert in south carolina is stronger than ever and we know that nobody will get the nomination unless they can make it through south carolina. so it depends on which poll you are looking. a there are some polls that have the vice president still up as much as by ten points, some that have him trailing. but at the end of the day, i always say the streets don't lie. by that i mean that when i'm out and about talking to people

about this election, especially african-americans are solidly with the president. also, very importantly, many republicans i have talked to have said they absolutely could vote for joe biden but they don't necessarily feel that way about others in this race. >> now, do you think that last statement you just made about oh some saying they could vote for joe biden not others. do you think that that is the reason we are seeing these attacks from president trump on joe biden? i had a guest here last night that said that the president is afraid of joe biden to face him? do you think that's what this is all about? >> that is absolutely what this is about. and if there was ever any question on who donald trump feared going into the 2020 election, he's answered it, himself. he is so concerned about joe biden that he will stop at

nothing even destroying our democracy to make sure that joe biden is not the one who he has to face in november of 2020. because what he's confirmed is what many of us have known all along that joe biden is the strongest person to go up against donald trump and win. >> what do you make of those that are saying joe biden should have come back sooner and more aggressively against these ukraine charges? >> i think that joe biden has been doing this a very long time and i will not begin to question his timing, especially as it relates to responding to something that's a direct personal attack against his son. something that's unfounded. i think that he has done it in the appropriate time, in the appropriate way, in hess way. he's been very firm that these attacks are unfounded.

we also know there is nothing that substantiates these attacks other than donald trump's mind and also that joe biden wants to stay focused on this election and this is a distraction by donald trump and what i would just say to the american people is let's not be tricked by this. don't be fooled by this man again. he wants to distract us. he wants us to not think about what he needs to address going into 2020 and so he's making up things that he's publicly calling for foreign interference in our election. it's a slap in all of our faces. >> ms. mayor. we are about 48 hours away from the fourth democratic debate in columbus, ohio, we're coming to right outside atlanta. we'll talk about that i'm sure before we get there with you. but what do you think will be the former vice president's

strategy on the stage on this coming tuesday at the debate and what do you hope it will be for the first time you are going to see him there with some polls has senator warren ahead, you have bernie sander's returning to the stage after having health concerns, you'll have a tom desire that has not ever been on the stage and you will have 12 not ten and many of us felt 10 was too many. so what do you think the vice president's strategy is going to be on tuesday night? >> i think the vice president will continue to remind us why we value him so much. he brings experience, foreign policy experience, that we so sorely need right now and i hope that he reminds us of that during this debate. but also, i think going into this debate, trailing behind in the polls is good in a way. i think it's time some other candidates trailing close to him

or ahead begin to explain and answer for themselves. right now the vice president has been taking all of the hits because he is the front runner. but i do think it is time that others begin to explain how they'll pay for some of these policies that that i are proposing. at the end of the day, i think it's most important joe biden be joe biden. the joe biden we know and love. i am sure he will do quite well in the deba it this week. >> you are the mayor of one of america's largest city and certain will i the dominant city in the south in terms of international reputation. does it concern you that the democrats in a primary fight may give the perception is that there are things in a general election could be held against the party and in many ways make people feel na the democratic party is much more extreme in some of its policies than really

central democrats are and people like you have to manage and govern cities and work with people in washington and you want to see people that are willing to work with you? >> well, mayor al, i know as mayor it can't be all or nothing. if you truly want to get something done or accomplished. and i think that's what separates the vice president from others, because he served at the executive level before. what i know as mayor is that you can be as far right on some issues as you can be as far left on some issues, but the vast majority of people want you to make sound decisions that impact our decisions in an impactful way. >> that takes most of us governing somewhere down the middle. i think that's what the party is looking for. you know in atlanta we've done aggressive things. we've done criminal justice

reform. we closed our doors to i.c.e.. but on the other side, we've also been good for business. we have a great partnership with our corporate community in this city. we successfully hosted the super bowl. and even today as we celebrate pride in the city of atlanta one of the largest pride parades in the world, there were representatives from delta airline, the home depot, ups. i can go on and on. because that's where we are in this city. we are able to address the concerns of our community while also balancing that twith other interests as well, that's why i think that makes joe biden tweet donald trump in 2020. he is our most moderate candidate and he has a hardened concern for our communities flu is forgot to mention is you really celebrated in big fashion the 98th birthday of reverend

joseph loury. >> thank you. >> thank you for being with us mplgs coming up, just weeks ahead of election day a city in georgia already known for it's racial insensitivity has taken a new step that's been called an act of quote clear voter suppression. details next. but before we go to break, i want to share with you another horrific instance of police killing and shooting black citizens. this time a 28-year-old texas woman atatianaeverson was murdered in her ft. worth home watching her 8-year-old nephew. body camera footage show police responding to a non-emergency call from the neighbor because he noticed the woman's doors were opened, the lights were on. police arrived on the scene, later firing one shot through the window killing miss

jefferson. afterwards, the neighbor said, quote, there was no reason for her to be dead because there was nothing violent going on. the shooting police officer is currently on administrative leave for the duration of the internal investigation. but local activists are calling for more accountability. if history has anything to say about it, i won't hold my breath. we better keep the pressure on to find out what happened. r keen to find out what happened. sometimes, the pressures of today's world can make it tough to take care of yourself. but nature's bounty has innovative ways to help you maintain balance and help keep you active and well-rested.

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this week's gotcha is specially dedicated to the city leaders in jonesboro, georgia. just when you thought voter suppression couldn't get any more blatant, last month the nearly all white city council and its county board of elections moved to relocate the town's long polling place from a fire house museum to a police precinct citing issues of construction. and that may seem like a harmless change of location. but i wonder what they're doing and so is the aclu and civil rights groups in the state of georgia. jonesboro city manager ricky carl, jr., reportedly said

officials there chose the location because it is quote the most comfortable and familiar location for residents end of quote. but my question is, most comfortable for whom? jonesboro is a city that is about 60% black. yet its local police is led by all white branch. the department has been plagued with allegations of police brutality and mistreatment by its citizens for more context in a city in a county that allows law enforcement to hand out fines up to $480 when people sag their pants. after this group's argue that forcing voters to cast their ballot under the watchful eye of police the a clear violation of the voting rights act. and to think that black folks in the current climate would feel comfortable voting at a precinct is ludicrous. this is reminiscent of the jim

crowe era tactics that were used to stymie the black vote long ago. unfortunately, this is our stark reality today. and this is far from an isolated incident. ever since the u.s. supreme court struck down a provision of the voting rights act in 2013, officials around the country have been able to change polling locations without having to prove their actions were non-discriminatory, and in that same type, and in that same time period, over 1,600 of those locations have been closed due to charges of voter discrimination. so no matter how jonesboro officials try to dress this up, suppression is suppression. in fact, in this case, is the downright intimidation. and i gotcha. intimidation and i gotcha it was a life changing moment for me.

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. in just two short days i'll be in westerville, ohio, sitting in the audience for the fourth presidential debate. 12 contenders will take the stage at the audubon university. but there should be a 13th podium up there for impeachment. as the inquiry into president trump's abuse of power is sure to receive a ton of speaking

time on tuesday night. my panel that would be amy holmes, former speech writer for the republican senate majority leader bill frisk and pete domenic comedienne and host of the radio show stand up on sirius xm. amy, as a republican, what will you be watching for on tuesday night? >> well, as a conservative independent i will be watching to see if the candidates on stage take advice from the maur you just interviewed to tack back to the middle. we've seen a lot of very far left progressive views being expressed and agreed with on the democratic stage is alienating in 2020. i'll be watching how they position themselves within it comes to win the general election. >> i'm excited to watch these policy ideas and see elizabeth warren and the plans for the

more desperate candidates. i'm all for it. it won't be an issue, you don't really, if you all agree on on issue, you don't want to stay on board with it. i don't see tucci about impeachment. >> we'll hear a lot about trump. >> you will hear a lot about trump, but also you want to hear the policy. i think you got to do both. >> yes. >> amy, when you look at the fact that their going to be 12 people up there. ten was a lot. >> yeah. >> you are looking at the fact that this was the first debate where in some polls elizabeth warren is a front runner, not joe biden. so people will be watching warren and biden. >> right. >> this is the first time we will see bernie sanders since his health condition and you have tom desire up there who has never been up there and no one knows whether he makes a dramatic attempt to d.c. so there is a lot to watch for. >> there will be a lot of new

stuff. it will be interesting to see if senator warren's competitors gang up on here, tom desire, it will be see if he is a fish out of watt, flopping around on stage. oftentimes people in successful business life think they are better in politics than they are. i know you agree with that. they have never had you know that kind of frontal attack from political opponents in their life. i think for mr. desire it will be the first time we see him on the stage. >> let me go back to something amy said, she said she hopes they go more centrist and away from from i'm kur why us to see if they do. >> but is it not the argument being made that i happen to agree with that the center is more left than it has been in the past? >> yeah, with erefer to as the over-- we refer to the overton window, what amy says is far left is fwhoot i say is far left. what you say is centrist may not

be what i say is centrist. i prefer healthcare and environment and racial injustice and so on. we can debate those. i think it's a primary and obviously a lot of, there is a tremendous amount of energy with progressives, with young people. it will be interesting to see by the way what kind of shape bernie sanders is in? you know, this guy had a heart attack. he's 77-years-old, it will be interesting to see if tom desire performs well and stands up there or is a pile of his money. why he is there i have no idea. >> amy, he mentioned, heart attack, bernie sanders 77-years-old. >> i love him. >> will age become an issue because of that? even from the candidates or the moderator? smr we saw julian castro in that last debate going after joe biden. >> he wasn't going to do it. >> he was losing his marbles. i think in the case of bernie sanders, of course, people will

see, how much energy he has on the stage. does he have the endurance for the deba it? >> i'm not talking bernie, i'm talking will age be an issue? >> it should be, joe biden and joe wide reason all in their late 70s. i think it should be an obvious issue of health reasons and health concerns, more importantly, do you understand what younger people think about and automation and andrew yang and 20 and 30-year-olds are concerned about. can you capture young women? >> they can ask young candidates do you understand what seniors care about and senior are the bed rock voters they don't go away. >> those over 65ers. i don't care about the age of the candidate. i care about their health condition and the stamina and the ability to do the job. let's face it. if one of the candidates was old like yoda, we'd love it. if they're old and not understand where they are, not

where the arguments are, not having energy, that becomes a problem. >> well, we have a yoda up there. it's elizabeth warren, she's not 900-year-olds, she's brilliant and a lot of brilliant people. i think it will be interesting to watch these think about this field ten or 12 versus what we had in the republican primaries with all due respect, they were talking about the president's privates, marco rubio, they were talking about the size of his hands, they weren't getting into issues. >> the one disrespectful was the one conducting that kind of conversation. >> donald trump, it's preposterous. >> amy holmes, pete domenic. thank you both for being with us. coming up, the birthplace of the civil rights movement, montgomery, alabama made history yet again. i'll explain how next. istory yet again. i'll explain how next. - do you have a box of video tapes, film reels, or photos,

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boycott in montgomery in 1955 has elected its first black mayor. stephen reed. reed a judge for montgomery county won roughly two-thirds of the vote defeating white tv station owner david correia woods. next month reed will replace current mayor todd strange, who is not seeking re-election. mayor-elect steven reed joins me now. welcome to "politics nation, mr. mayor elect. >> thank you, reverend al, how are you today? >> i'm doing well. explain to me and the viewers how you were able in montgomery to get two-thirds of the vote to be mayor in this city that manes so much to the voting rights movement, what were the strategies that you used and the issues that was able to bring people together and vote in such a huge margin, black and white

for you as the -- to be the next mayor? >> well, we use a lot of data analytics to identify base voters and to try to make sure we can attract them throughout the campaign. we wanted to identify them early and really make sure we were speaking to them regarding issues they were concerned about, issues like public education, neighborhood safety and economic opportunity. we utilize that throughout the course of this campaign around a message of opportunity and we found it resonated in a very profound way so we did the traditional things, knocking on doors. we used the data and technology of social media in tracking our voters as well as using our other ways of contacting them and connecting with them to inspire them to get out and vote. i really think they took control of the message and the opportunity they have to really change the narrative of montgomery.

>> you were probeing judge, now on your way to being mayor of winning this astounding election with that kind of logic. what inspired you? you as a person, what has inspired reach for things that has not been achieved in your city before? >> you know, i wanted to be able to impact outcomes in a more positive matter. when you're on the bej of a judge, you can only deal with those issues brought before you. i wanted to be able to prioritize issues in the city in a way that i thought put the people first and really prioritize issues that have been looked over for a number of years. there have been times when i suggested ideas to local officials that didn't really seem to get much traction, but i really thought that if i were able to get in the driver's seat, we could create more positive outcomes. and i just think that fundamentally, montgomery has not reached its full potential and i think the future is better than our past, and i believe that i'm the best person to

chart the course. so after weighing some of the options with my family, i decided to jump in the fray because as you all have talked about before, local politics matters. so many things now are happening at the local and state level that we don't realize because of the gridlock in washington. if we aren't at the table pushing our agenda, we aren't able to make the changes that are necessary. >> i think you also made it very clear that you respect all of the history that has led up to now, even recent history, and you wanted to continue that but in a more inclusive way. >> absolutely, reverend al. the history here is one that i benefit from. i'm born and raised in montgomery. left and came back here, did not expect to get involved in politics. really thought my future would be in business, but i got pulled in because of the legacy that exists here from dr. king, from many others who have led movements, e.d. nixon as well,

and so many others. my father, joe reed, as well, leading the democratic conferen conference. so so many others who have played a positive role here at various stages, but what i really thought was necessary was for the new generation to take the baton and really transform our local government and really make a difference in a way that reaches people right now where the problems are in this day and age, and positions us for a brighter future. >> well, you can tell that you have bridged a lot of gaps because i got that night, you could tell by age who is calling because people your age, even up to mine, said, you know, the judge won at two thirds of the vote. older people said joe reed's son won. so i can tell who was calling by that, but you have excited a lot of people around the country. and i think that you looking nationally at what's going on, what do you hope the democratic party will bring to the table that could help mayors like you

be more effective as they run this campaign and highlight issues? >> i think we have to talk to issues that are impacting voters every day. in particular, in our urban centers, in our cities, how are we going to better fund local government. how can we make sure that economic opportunity is accessible to all? hoe can we make sure we're restoring the diginanity of wor and creating opportunities that pay a livable wage for people who want to get advanced skills training, who want to make sure they're part of this knowledge-based economy, and i believe all of the democratic candidates have to make sure they're not overlooking any base, in particular that black voters. we have to make sure that we're being spoken to, not only in montgomery, alabama, but across the country, as we know we're the base of the democratic party. i hope there's an economic message that reaches out, and i also hope there's a message involving health care and criminal justice reform as well, that all of these presidential

candidates will take to heart and make sure they're articulated across the board wherever they may be. >> steven reed, mayor elect of montgomery, alabama, thank you so much for being with us. up next, my final thoughts, but before we go to break, a bit of levity, courtesy of "saturday night live." >> my question is, if elected, what will you do to bring clear voices into your cabinet. >> well, first of all, gracias. as a democrat, i want to apologize for not being gay. but i promise to do better in the future. however, i am latino, which we can all agree is something. look, i'm young. i'm diverse. i'm latino. i've always been fascinated by what's next.

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