good to be with you. i'm katy tur. you're not going to want to go anywhere for the next two hours because we have multiple big stories that we're watching that will be changing while we are on air. in fact, our first story already is. we're going to begin in florida. the south florida federal judge who issued the warrant to search mar-a-lago has given donald trump's attorneys until 3 p.m. today, one hour from now, to oppose the justice department's request to unseal two documents related to the search.

both the search warrant and the inventory receipt. "the wall street journal" appears to have already seen both. the paper is reporting the fbi took 11 sets of classified documents from mar-a-lago, including one set of documents marked as tssci documents. that means top secret, sensitive, compartmented information. in other words, some of the most sensitive material the u.s. government says it has. stuff that is only meant to be seen in special government facilities. this would jibe with what multiple outlets have been reporting already, that the d.o.j. was looking for highly classified documents at mar-a-lago and potentially with what "the washington post," citing sources familiar, with that knows documents were about nuclear weapons. if so, that would explain the urgency behind the search. nbc has not confirmed "the washington post" reporting and we have not confirmed "the wall street journal" reporting but we all could be about to.

the warrant and inventory list could be unsealed right at 3 p.m. if not sooner. in a statement this morning, donald trump said he insists that both be revealed. keep in mind that statement is a bit disingenuous because donald trump and his team could unilaterally release any of those at any time. they have both of those documents. like i said, you're not going to want to go anywhere for the next two hours because a lot is changing. joining me now is ryan reilly, nbc news justice reporter. he has the background on what we could learn. ash live parker, national political correspondent. she's on the byline for that major scoop on nuclear weapons. joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, to put this all into context for us. this reporting from "the wall street journal," again, we don't have it yet but it appears that reporters have been able to see

these documents. walk us through them. >> sure. what "the wall street journal" reports is that there were 20 boxes and 11 sets of classified materials that were taken from mar-a-lago after the search warrant was executed. that's essentially what they were looking for. this is after a bunch of classified documents had already been removed from the location. they're supposedly going through all those materials and making sure that they had gotten all of those out of the facility but all of these were left behind, including chiefly that top classified document. there's not a is scif, something that's set up where you're allowed to go view these documents. that's some of the most protected information that the u.s. government has and it's very significant that they found and seized something there from that property and supports the reporting that ashley and "the washington post" have been doing regarding what that material actually is all about, katy.

>> so 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, a handwritten note and the executive grant of clemency from mr. trump's ally, roger stone. there's also something to do with the president of france. joyce, when you read through the wall street courage's reporting, how did you understand it? >> well, if this reporting is accurate, what it suggests is that there was a willful mishandling of classified material by mr. trump. because after being served a subpoena, and i'm going to make an enormous leap of faith here and assume that justice department folks when they got whenever they got previously out of mar-a-lago would have said is this everything that you have? are there any classified materials remaining here? and they would have gotten a no response. someone, whoever was speaking for mr. trump would have said we have given you everything that

we believe is classified. when we now see reporting that there is top secret, compartmental documents included in what has now been retrieved from mar-a-lago, it is very difficult to overstate the significance of that. to see these materials, not only do you need the appropriate clearance, you have to have a need to know about the specifics and you look at them in a secure room. they're heavily marked. there's a cover page, they're marked on every page. it's not the kind of thing you can make a mistake about. this is also the type of information that involves sources and methods of collection. it is extremely detrimental to the security of the united states for this sort of material to be revealed. so if this reporting is accurate, this was not some sort of a pedestrian effort to retrieve classified material. this was a very serious effort to restore material to the united states and also there's no telling what damage could

have been done in the slightly over a year and a half that it remained in the former president's possession. >> so i imagine if they had known that there was this sort of material in there, joyce, they might have moved sooner. does that give -- and i know we're making educated assumptions here based on experience so i want to just caveat all of this but does it lend credence to the idea there might have been a person in donald trump's orbit who said, listen, there's more here and more potentially sensitive stuff here? >> i'm better at educated guesses than uneducated ones when it comes to using a crystal ball. it does seem likely that someone in trump's orbit was letting the justice department know. in order to use a search warrant to establish probable cause for a judge to sign off on the search warrant, you have to have some indication that that informant is credible, that they're reliable.

whether that's past provision of correct information, something about their character or presentation that indicia of reeblt, you -- reliability. there would be some expectation they would have recovered information that was consistent with the nature of what they told the judge they were looking for. >> when we're talking about tssci, top secret, you can walk us through the handling of those documents and the trump white house and how might that be. i first want you to start with your bombshell reporting that these documents they were looking for had to do with nuclear weapons. >> so my colleagues broke the news last night that some of these documents had to do

nuclear weapons, nuclear material. it did sort of bring to an end what had been washington speculation. it was informed speculation, best guesses, right? but nobody actually knew of why the justice department and particularly the merrick garland justice department who came in and was so careful to try to depoliticize the agency after four years under former president trump, who very clearly wanted to use the d.o.j. as a political weapon, why he would have the fbi search mar-a-lago for, for instance, to take back some of the stuff we previously reported that trump had taken down there such as a model replica of air force i in trump colors. that's supposed to be turned over to the national archives. is it worth sending dozens of fbi agents down to that compound? probably not. this is one piece that begins to

explain why the government would have felt such a sense of urgency that they could not wait for trump and his team to turn this over, what they had been refusing to turn over and they had to send fbi agents down in a way they clearly knew would become incredibly political. >> i was just reminded that back in 2019, i believe it was, there was a chinese business woman who trespassed at mar-a-lago while carrying a bag full of electronics. he was sentenced to eight months in jail back in november of 2019 but this is an example of the security of that compound compared to the security of a government facility, a scif as ryan was saying a second ago, might have increased concerns about who could get in where at that complex and compound. i want to bring in the chief.

he can help explain to us what "the wall street journal" said agents found. thank you very much for being with us, david. tell me what you can best assume now from what we've seen. >> well, i think what we understand is my distinguished former colleague join vance says that the government of the united states, the fbi and department of justice were incredibly concerned about the reports they were receiving since assurances apparently provided months ago that extremely sensitive, classified information, compartmented information, was still on the premises of mar-a-lago. at that point they had to lose all confidence in the representations previously made and had to set into motion a discussion to undertake this sensitive search warrant to prepare an affidavit that would persuade in a pulverizing fashion, i imagine, the probable cause necessary to search the premises of the former president. what they found was exactly what they were led to believe they would find to my shock, tsci

material and reportedly information relating to nuclear weapons. there's no plausible basis under law for that material to be residing on the private residence of anybody, even a former president of the united states. >> i just want to linger, tssci information, these are terms that are not in the recollection -- lexicon of americans. if you can explain what sort of material that is. >> in a classification system there are three levels, confidential, secret and top secret. each are defined in law. top secret is defined as information the disclosure of which could cause grave damage, grave damage to the national security of the united states. and information classified at those levels is sometimes also compartmented, meaning typically that it has been collected by extremely sensitive sources and methods. it could be electronic surveillance, for example,

typically that the national security agency collects. it could be human source information but it is the highest level of sensitivity that intelligence reports can have. that's what president trump apparently had in his personal petting zoo at mar-a-lago. >> what do you make of your successor, jay bratt, who signed the motion to unseal this information? >> look, i worked with jay closely. he was my deputy and principle tall deputy. i have the highest professional and personal regard for him. he is a stellar public servant. jay would have taken every step to ensure that the rule of law was being served, that the department of justice policy was being reserved and they button down every aspect of this going forward. i am confident there was more than sufficient evidence to meet the standard of probable cause here. i suspect it was something like probable cause plus that was so cogent in its quantity and quality of evidence set forth as to leave no doubt in the judge's mind that there was probable

cause and that has all been ratified in the reporting so far. >> again, we have not confirmed this reporting from "the wall street journal," but again, these documents could be unsealed. we could get more of an idea from it as soon as 3 p.m., if not a little bit sooner, ryan. so walk us through what is happening right now behind the scenes. >> i think that it's very clear that d.o.j. has been pretty locked down about all this information, so we can safely assume that this is coming in based on going to "the wall street journal" as well as apparently fox news. i think you can safely assume what campus this is coming from, some of these leaks ahead of the actual formal release of this information. to go back to what david said for a moment and given his oversight of employees who had these very top-level clearances, this is a pretty unique situation because it's not often you have an individual who was essentially fired in this case by the american public who had access to these documents and then was a disgruntled employee

and took them off with him, like this is a different scenario than most of your average folks are dealing with. there's the other side of that, which is that trump did have the power to declassify things. what the battle could end up being -- it's suggested there needs to be contemporaneous documentation. the push back from the trump camp is you can do this michael scott style, i declare this declassified and that's that. we could see this go out for months, katy. >> he did that during the time he was in office during the russia investigation and hillary clinton's e-mail. he said i hereby declassify everything. one of his aides said, no, he

doesn't intend to declassify all of that. even though he said it on twitter and proclaimed it, his team and he himself didn't take the extra step of actually doing it. it seemed like they never really intended to, only wanted to hear him say it. on this idea that he can declassify anything, what is the process there? >> well, there is no process described in law governing a president of the united states declassification of material. there are executive orders that govern the declassification by subordinate officials who have the status of what's called an original classification authority, there are procedures prescribed for them but none for the president of the united states. so this would be a matter of first impression, if it were litigated before a federal court. but what i think is fair to believe is that there must be some kind of process, even if it's not set forth in statute or regulation that governs a process by which the president of the united states is actually

declassifying classified material. it can't just happen because he thinks it in his head or he's walking around as an original classification authority. it can't happen because he mentions it to an aide or writes it down on a cocktail napkin he halfway flushes down the toilet. there's got to be something that contemporaneously memorializing declassifying information. there has to be something that would corroborate his assertion that he declassified and it can't happen post hoc after he has left office because then he would have no authority to declassify anything. >> "the wall street journal" has appeared to see these documents again. it would be surprising if they saw these documents from

somebody on the official side of things, from d.o.j. or from the courts because they have not yet been unsealed. the question remains did somebody in the trump world show these documents to "the wall street journal"? but we have this statement from trump world that i'm just getting right now, i have it here. this is from president trump's spokesman and he says "the bide general administration is in offious damage control after their botched raid where they seized the president's picture books, a handwritten note and classified documents. this raid of not just unprecedented but unnecessary and now they are leaking lies and innuendos to try to explain away the weaponization of government against their dominant political opponent, this is outrageous. what do you make of that? >> well, look, what i actually think the more interesting statement and that is certainly interesting, was one that trump put out a little earlier. katy, you and i both know from

covering him during the campaign that often when something damaging about him comes out, there's this very familiar pattern and the first is he calls it a hoax, a witch hunt. he did that with the raid, right? he compared it to the impeachments, the mueller investigation, the russia collusion. and to be clear, he was impeached twice. it wasn't a hoax or witch hunt. and then after denying something, he sort of says the quiet part out loud and reveals that he actually did do the thing. he had this tweet this morning that basically said that -- all but admitted that there were classified documents relating to nuclear weapons at mar-a-lago where he basically said president obama did the exact same thing. he took thousands of classified documents with him and a lot related to nuclear weapons. he said it in a more trumpy, colorful way but that is sort of the tell.

now you're seeing his team and that taylor statement go from saying there was no justification for this raid to sort of they're slowly making their way to, okay, so what? you know, the justice department had no right to take what taylor and that statement in that statement you just read said are classified documents. the argument then becomes we did the thing, who cares, it's not a problem. and we're seeing that evolution in realtime in really just the past 24 hours. >> as ashley said, we've been seeing this for many years now from the campaign on whenever donald trump has been confronted with damaging information or actions he himself has made. thank you, everyone. still ahead, he was stabbed on stage. salman rushdie was attacked in new york this morning at a speaking engagement. what we know about his condition and the person who attacked him. and it appeared to be about the

search of mar-a-lago. the man who authorities say tried to attack the fbi in ohio had a revealing social media presence. what he was posting before he broke into a field office brandishing an a.r. 15-style weapon. first up, though, they are about to vote. if the house does pass the inflation reduction act in just a few moments, it will go right to the president's desk. congressman jim hynes joins me. e our custom fit orthotics use foot mapping technology to give you personalized support, for all-day pain relief. find your relief in store or online. woman tc: my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here. doctor tc: ruby's a1c is down with rybelsus®.f man tc: my a1c wasn't at goal, now i'm down with rybelsus®. son tc: mom's a1c is down with rybelsus®. song: a1c down with rybelsus® anncr vo: in a clinical study, once-daily rybelsus®

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within the next hour the house is expected to start voting on the sweeping package known as the inflation reduction act. we expect it to pass in a party line vote before heading to president biden's desk. it includes roughly $430 billion in spending and new taxes on companies that buy back their own stock. joining he from capitol hill is ali vitali. what is going to happen today? >> reporter: they're thinking they're going to pass this. the margins in the house are very slim here. speaker pelosi can only afford to lose four of her democrats, but at the same time, we do expect she has the votes on this. it's been on a glide path since the senate passed this

reconciliation package over the weekend and beginning of the week. now it's a moment for democrats to celebrate. not officially because they're in the second of three hours of debate. we expect in a few hours this bill will be passed in the house and on its way to president joe biden's desk. we know there's $430 billion in spending to shore up health care subsidies, and combatting climate change and incentivizing clean energy and paying for it through democratic priorities, leveraging more taxes on the wealthiest corporations and earners in this country. and the name of it alone is a priority for democrats. as republicans try to make this moment a referendum on democrats and president biden on the economy, this bill's title, the inflation reduction act, is meant to act as a counter to that. democrats now eager to take this message out on the campaign trail. you've seen members of the progressive caucus, as well as

more moderate front line members of this party saying this is something that they are eager to vote for and eager to tell voters about. >> i'm going to talk about that name in just a second. joining me is democratic congressman from the state of connecticut, congressman jim hynes. thank you very much for being here. it's been a long time. this bill does cover a lot of ground, a lot of big wins for the democratic party on climate change, on taxes, on health care. but it does kind of feel like those things were rebranded into the inflation act. the cbo says it will not significantly change inflation over the next two years. what do you say to that? >> i guess what i'd say to that, katy, and thank you for having me back, inflation is a complicated topic. when i have a town hall meeting

in southwestern connecticut, i don't have that meeting that some senior citizen comes up to me and says i can't afford insulin, i can't afford my prescription drug. inflation means something different to people on the ground than what it means to economists. and what this will will do, it will for the first time ever allow medicare to negotiate with the big drug companies, using their heft to negotiate volume discounts, which is what ford motor company and any big beyer of anything does in a way that will cause the cost of those prescription drugs to go down and put a cap on the out of pocket expenses of senior citizens. so, again, we could have a two-hour conversation about the nature of the cpi and everything, but this is going to reduce drug prices for senior citizens. >> you know, fair but inflation does have an actual definition. why not just call it it's going to make your life cheaper act,

if that's the case? >> it's just a lot of words. katy, look, if we're really dealing in thele world of reality here, you and i both know that inflation is largely managed by the federal reserve and that at this point, we could dramatically splash spending in this country. that's a whole other conversation. that would be, as economists say, the fiscal side. do we cut social security and medicare the way the republicans have proposed or do we cut defense spending? most of the action is going to be at the federal reserve and we're already starting to see their actions take effect as we saw in the last month, no increase month on month of inflation for american consumers. >> do you think this bill along with all the other stuff going on within the democratic party helps you guys in the mid terms? do you see a noticeable change in momentum? >> no question about it, katy. coming on top of the passage of the aid to burn pit wounded ved

rans, which was signed in law last week and on top of the chip act, right now if you tuned in to debate in the house floor, republicans can't argue against cutting prices for prescription drugs for seniors. they want to but it's hard for them to argue against making an investment against the devastation caused by climate change. so infed they're focused on -- for the party that claims to be the party of law and order, they're focused on the element that would provide the irs with a lot more essentially auditors to catch the tax cheats. there are estimates that every year the united states fails to receive $600 billion in tax ref newspaper because people cheat. that's what my republican colleagues are focused on right now. why they would want to make it easier for people to cheat on their taxes is beyond me. but here we are.

>> the the kur eed interest loophole is not closed. that would have raised a ton of money from the very tippy top who are making a ton of money after something that should not be taxed as a capital gain as a lot of people out there argue. >> katy, i am not over my outrage right now. and more people involved in private equity and edge funds -- >> than you. >> than i do. giving a preferential tax rate for the capital gains on money that is not theirs is beyond absurd. it serves no public purpose and as they will tell you in many instances, you know, it's deeply, deeply unfair. the one thing i would take issue with, it wasn't actually a huge source of revenue for the bill. it was in the tens of billions of dollars, not in the hundreds

of billions of dollars. i know kyrsten sinema. next time i see her i'm going to have a bone to pick with her because that should have been in this bill. frankly, that's a better way to raise revenue than putting a a 1% tax on i represent a lot of private equity and edge fund people in the united states congress. i'm really unhappy that was taken out of the bill. >> how do you feel about the fbi's search of mar-a-lago? from what you understand so far from what merrick garland said yesterday, do you think it's justified? >> i'm going to going to wait for a single fact to come out -- number one, the president is not above the law. if the president broke the law or retained classified documents that are out there creating a vulnerability to the national security of the united states, the fbi will have done the right

thing. you don't get exempted from legal process just because you're a big shot in this country, we're all equal before the law. but we have to wait for the facts to come out. why a united states senator, why the republican leader of the house republicans would jump to the conclusion that this was unfairly done, there's only one answer to that question, katy, which is that you're trying to once again to look -- in this case i get animated because people will die if they keep whipping up and encourage violence. a 42-year-old gave up his life yesterday because he was motivated by lies and told by people who they know are lying and we've had, two things are going to happen, more these are entities made up of very

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we're learning more about the armed suspect killed by police after trying to breach an fbi in ohio. one suspect is identified as ricky schiffer. he was at the capitol on january 6th. the fbi has faced an uptick in violent threats after the search of the former president's home. and christopher wrait said we will adjust our security posture based on what we're seeing. ben, you follow all this. what did you say online from

this suspect, from schiffer? >> we saw in the last few days a full radicalization towards targeting fbi agents. he's always been posting about things like 1776 -- >> are we certain it's him? >> absolutely certain. he's posted selfies and he's been seen at the capitol. his user name was his full name with his middle initial in it. this guy didn't not necessarily want to be cause. he said over and over again let's use this to kick off a war basically. he wanted to be known as that person. because of that he said target fbi agents, if i can't do it, you guys do it. he didn't come up with that on his own. he came up with that when the gop apparatus of the last few days started calling him the gestapo. >> we talked about this on tuesday. on tuesday after the raid, not even 24 hours later, we talked about what you were seeing online, the uptick in calls for civil war, the lock and load

stuff, and it only took a matter of days before someone take that into real life and attacks the fbi field office. >> i'm not a mystic but i can tell you when the alarm bells are going off. the alarm bells are going off. when they talk about going out and lock and load and take up arms, somebody eventually is going do that. there are groups who are coordinating like this and they have been for years. they have nicknames for the fbi. this guy was new to the game in targeting but these guys aren't. >> we've seen terse statement

from fbi director christopher wray. we heard the same thing from merrick garland yesterday saying they're not going to tolerate this. what does that mean in real life? they're increasing their security posture but how do they protect themselves against people online when they only have so much access to watching folks online. >> you would hope a guy using his real name at the capitol on january 6th who was tipped off by fellow trump supporters that he was going to go kill someone. so that's one way to get that. there are some known entities here. they are repeat offenders and still calling for the civil war. the hard part, some of this is not intuitive. my editor was the only person who could get the search function to work on that web site a couple days ago. from a technical standpoint, they use some very dumb apps and

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meta portal with smart sound. helps reduce your background noise. bring that sense of calm, really... so you come through, loud and clear. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home work for you. new york state police are investigating an attack on author salomon rushdie. police say a man rushed the stage as the author was being introduced to give a lecture in western new york. he suffered an apparent stab wound to the neck and was taken by helicopter to a local hospital. his condition is not known. his work has sparked protests in the muslim world throughout his career. he spent years in hiding and under police protection after death threats from iran in the 1980s. joining me right now is david rhode, executive editor of

thenewworker.com. >> it's not a place you would think you need security. what do you make of this? >> it's chilling, intimidating and it's terror. you don't know the motive. the attacker as far as i know hasn't been identified. i'll be honest, i've given talks from that same stage. it's a beautiful spot on a lake in western new york. people come to that amphitheater, it's enormous, beautiful amphitheater and people come into it and there are conversations. and rushdie was giving talks about authors and freedom of speech when he was attacked. so i'm horrified by this. and i think there was a security lapse. again, i've been in that

amphitheater. there are many, many entrances and what surprises me is that no one was up to the blocking stage. the assailant was able to just run up on to the stage. >> especially for someone like rushdie. he's endured threats for decades now and only recently did he start living a more public life. >> yeah. there was a state trooper there, he ap mended the suspect. there was a young person who was interviewed about this, who said the assailant was 15 feet and ran by dressed in black. >> can you explain the 1989fatwa

for people who don't remember? >> sure. the leader of iran at the time you said it was a sacrilegious prescription and he issued this edict calling for rushdie to be killed. and there was a reward for that. iran sort of backed off of that after the death of ayatollah khomeini and i'd say for the a least the last several years, maybe decade, rushdie has been out in public giving talks without, you know, large amounts of security around him. i don't blame him. he literally lived in hiding under a pseudnym for a decade.

he's just this incredibly talented person and writer and author. >> got it. one other question for you on rushdie before we get back to mar-a-lago and the d.o.j. and everything that's happening there. if this has to do with iran and that's a big if, we don't know right now but we do know iran has gotten a little bit more brazen with trying to, you know, kill john bolton, putting a number on his head recently, this would be a big deal for relations between our two countries. they're not good as of now. david, are you there? he's frozen. naturally. david is going to be sticking with us. we're going to get that connection. we're going to go back to what's happening at mar-a-lago, back to what's happening with these documents. we might be just about to get those documents so do not go anywhere. find out exactly what the fbi fbi was looking for, at least

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correspondent ryan riley. so you have the doc. what does it tell you? >> well, we have three things going on here. there is a -- i'm going to read them off here. so there is a u.s. code 2071 which is concealment, removal or mutilation. there is a 793 which is gathering transmitting or losing national defense information and then there is 1519, destruction or alteration or falsification of documents in federal investigations. so those are the three items that we now know that the former president of the united states was under suspicion for, for violating those laws. and there is a whole list, there is 28 items on this list here of items that were seized from the property. there is a description obviously of mar-a-lago itself and then there is a rundown of exactly what they actually took including top secret security information, being the takeaway there. in additions to boxes of classified information. but it is really, it is a

remarkable thing just to be going through this sort of remarkable moment in american history where a former president of the united states is under investigation or a suspicion of having possession at mar-a-lago of these documents and pretty big news here. >> so that is an understatement. so, the warrant was issued a few days before the fbi actually executed the search. what do you make of that delay? if there were documents relate to nuclear weapons, top secret information, the most sensitive stuff that the government said it has, what is the deal with that delay. >> so i wouldn't put anything to that delay. this is a friday, saturday, sunday and then then executed it on a monday. so this was actually issued midday on friday, if we know anything about the fbi, they like to have all of their ducks in a row before they go through something like this.

especially something as unprecedented as a search on the former president's estate. they don't do things willy-nilly or the by seat of their pants. they are a specific plan. and it is common in terms of when someone getting -- having an arrest warrant or a search warrant issued on a friday, that get executed on a monday. it is highly unusual for them to do something like that over the weekend. and it didn't seem like there was any pressing reason for that saturday or sunday necessarily, especially if the president wasn't in town and was away. that there was a need to sort of execute that on a weekend which would have been highly unusual to see saturday or sunday activity. >> can we confirm with the "wall street journal" reported about what the agents took, the 20 boxes of items, the 11 sets of classified documents, and you mentioned this, the various classified tsa, css, top secret

stuff that has been compartmented, the stuff that you're only supposed to see when you are in a government facility. a top secret facility like a scif, not necessarily the private home and club of a former president of the united states. and i know you're looking at your phone so you just got this document a second ago. if you wouldn't mind, just typing my email in there and forwarding it to me, would you appreciate it so i could get a handle on it too. but what could you tell us? >> sure. i'll just go through some of the highlights there is an executive of roger stone and information on the president of france and miscellaneous top secret documents and top secret documents again, miscellaneous confidential documents and miscellaneous secret documents, miscellaneous confidential documents and top secret documents, miscellaneous top secret documents on that last one, someone accidently added an e to the end of top so it said

tope, but someone crossed it out and put the initials next to it to make sure everything was executed on the warrant. >> and the search and seizure warren signed by bruce reinhart. the quote 45 office as well as all storage rooms and other rooms or areas within the premises. used or available to be used by the former president and his staff and in which boxes were documents could be stored including all structures, or buildings on the estate. let's bring in joyce vance. what is your reaction? >> well, i think this confirms some of the worst suspicions that we've been discussing ever since news of this search warrant broke. the warrant documents apparently confirm that doj is investigating what could be criminal violations in the mishandling of classifying information. and the breadth of this search

is pretty spectacular. it suggests that there are multiple areas, not the rooms where guests at mar-a-lago stayed, but pretty much any area where the president, the former president or his staff had access and where documents could be stored, that the search was broad and expansive. so what we're seeing here is something where it is still not clear, was this an effort to retrieve documents or will there be a follow-on prosecution. but nothing is off the table at this point. >> i have received the documents. ryan riley, thank you very much for forwarding it. coy say that with the "wall street journal" reported about what they searched and where they searched is indeed true, the 45 office and those store yj rooms, but not into any of the private areas of the club that are not having to do with the president of the united states. let -- let me ask you about the

affidavit. there was confusion about whether that would be contained in the oun sealing of the documents and whether trump could have had access to it. that is not the case. >> that is correct. that is not the case. and the affidavit is this sworn statement that the agent prepares in coordination with the prosecution team and they rehearse their probable cause for the judge to evaluate. earlier, katy, david laughman characterized what would be in this search warrant affidavit as probable cause plus, with the government not wanting to rely just on the normal amount of probable cause. but going above and beyond. i think that is very likely what is contained in that affidavit. unfortunately for all of us, at least for now, that appears to remain sealed. although some of the media, i might use that term loosely for some of the people who have asked that it be unsealed, but

if we were ever to see the affidavit, it would be seriously redacted because otherwise revealed in the full form this possible cause would likely reveal national security implications. >> so the former president has truth social and he's tweeting it as he would twitter and as we would expect him to during his presidency and the campaign whenever he felt like he was being attacked or he was under duress or maybe he did something wrong, he would go on and start posting a lot in a lot of capitals and with lots of exclamation points and we're seeing that right now as well. he said, barack hussein obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. how many of them we are pained to nuclear -- word is lots. let me just read you the statement from the national archives. on president obama's records. they sent this out almost

immediately after donald trump started posting these, these truth socials i guess. the national archives and records administration assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of obama presidential records when president barack obama left office in 2017. in accordance with the presidential records act, narra, the national archives and record administration moved 30 million pages of unclassified records to a nara facility in the chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by nara. additionally they have a nara facility in the washington, d.c. area as required by the presidential records act. former president obama has no control over where and how the national archives records administration stores the presidential records of his administration. so that was an immediate clap back from the national archives. donald trump is also going out