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tonight's laid, campaign crunch time. a handful of caucuses and primaries this weekend will be among the lost opportunities to change the presidential picture ahead of super tuesday. former president trump is campaigning in virginia tonight as a divided republican party holds a caucus convention and michigan. caucus is also being held in missouri and idaho. meanwhile, tomorrow's primary and the district of columbia could offer nikki haley one of her a few opportunities to win a contest outright. main while, president biden is preparing for his state of the union address, thursday, we are he'll have an opportunity to speak directly to the american
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people about his accomplishments, including the recovering economy with stock markets at all-time highs. and possible progress in the middle east. they administration has begun airdrops of humanitarian aid into gaza and stays far discussions are underway. a well received speech could help reverse a different popularity that has the president locked in a too close to call general election contest in november. all of that tonight on politicsnation. joining me now, congresswoman jennifer mcclellan, democrat of virginia. thanks for being with us congresswoman. let me go right in. as you mentioned, donald trump is campaigning and your home state of virginia tonight after they in north carolina earlier. both sides holding republican
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primaries this upcoming super tuesday. president biden bait trump in virginia but more than ten percentage points in 2020. but that latest polling out today from that new york times shows biden trailing trump by five points with registered voters and by full points with likely voters. both numbers within the margin of error. what's your take on the race at this moment? >> i think that it is still early and voters are just now starting to really tune in now that the likely lineup of trump the cis president biden is in place. and as voters look at the presidents record, as i look at they former president's record and look at what's on the ballot. we have reproductive freedom on the ballot. democracy is on the ballot. and we have that presidents
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need to finish the job of recovery, as you heard. we have a record recovery. we have over 14 million new jobs created in the past four years. but there is still a lot to be done to build on the progress of the last four years and not take us back, not only to the defendant in times of the trump administration, but he had reckless even fourth effect on a climate action, voting rights, and reproductive freedom, just tonight a few issues. >> stay with trump, there is a real concern now he will not stand federal trial for his actions in that last election before the next election day is held. this after the conservative super majority supreme court agreed to hear arguments over his claim of absolute presidential immunity in late april. leaving very little time for a trial before november. what is your reaction to what seems like a big win for trump
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this week? >> you know, the core process will play out. i don't know that it will necessarily be a big win at the end of the day for him. people are concerned about the likelihood that trump broke the law to try to steal the election. we already know he likely committed -- and voters are concerned about that. regardless of that, people are paying attention to how dangerous it would be if he gets another term. >> -- anniversary of tomorrow in alabama. [inaudible]
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a new study from the brennan center out today finds the voter turnout gap between black and white americans has increased since the voting rights act was gutted by the roberts supreme court into thousand 14. especially in those counties where histories -- with history of racial discrimination that was formally subject to federal oversight. what more can be done to push back the erosion of basic democratic rights so many of us filled so hard to achieve in the first place? >> forest i would note i am proud to be a cosponsor of the house version of the john lewis act, which was introduced back in september buttery soul. i think about john lewis all the time. and his final words to us, he said, democracy is not a state. it's an action that requires
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every generation to do its part. your generation did its part. my father, my grandfather, my great-grandfather -- now it is up to us. >> congresswoman, excuse me, what minutes and i'll come right back to you. we are getting breaking news right now out of missouri. nbc news is projecting that former president donald trump will play that winner of the republican caucus in that state. we will have more on the details as we get into it and just a moment. but let me go back to you, congresswoman, you are answering my question on voting rights. >> absolutely. john lewis said it is up to every generation to do its part to build our democracy, to save our democracy, to fight for outdoor moxie. now it is up to every generation to vote and this election like our very democracy depends on it. republicans believe -- that voting rights act was a partisan. every time it was reauthorized, it was done so on a bipartisan
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basis. but since the shelby decision, got to the voting rights act, republicans seem to believe that the only way they can win is by suppressing the vote. we have a saint rush of voter suppression laws across the country. not just in the south, except here in virginia, where we passed a voting rights act. that is the only why republicans feel they can. went by painting the roles to suit their. well we need to come out and vote no matter the cost. because our very democracy depends on it. that progress that we have built beyond the civil rights movement is facing a backlash right now and we have to make sure that we are vigilant to preserve our democracy, to preserve our progress that we have made on civil rights, on voting rights, on reproductive rights. and much, much more. >> and in the last year, with saint voting rights section two of the voting rights act. affirmative action, women's rights to choose, many rights that came out of the 60s and early 70s got hit by this
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supreme court. three of whom donald trump nominated to be on the court. but let me go back to the politics. what are your thoughts about missouri heavily going to trump and this breaking news story i just right? >> i'm not surprised. it has been clear that donald trump is the likely nominee. it is clear he's taken over the republican party. and about to put his daughter in law in charge at the rnc. i am not at all surprised by the result. but it makes crystal clear what's at stake in this election. this is going to be an election between do you want another four years of donald trump that will roll that progress on reproductive freedom, voting rights, civil rights, and on climate action, or do you want to continue the progress we've made under joe biden and kamala harris, rebuilding this economy, protecting reproductive freedom, protecting the right to vote, and protecting our for democracy?
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>> we mentioned the state of the union coming two days after super tuesday. what do you think the american people need to hear from president biden in that address? >> i think he's going to talk about not only the progress that was made in the first two years, but how republicans have blocked that progress and how we need to build on it and continue moving forward. he has done a record job on addressing climate change and the new jobs coming along with it. he's done a great job of rebuilding this economy from that metal out and waving not one behind. with same potentially growth and black-owned businesses and small businesses around the country, just to name a few. i think he's going to talk about the economic progress and the progress building back better and help we still need to continue that progress going forward. >> thank you very much for being with us, a congresswoman jennifer mcclellan. joining me now is my political
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panel michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times and jeff timber, senior adviser of the lincoln project. jeff, we just mentioned the breaking news about trump winning the republican caucus and missouri. let's also get to michigan. former president trump already won the primary contest in the state and nbc news is projecting heat will sweep the caucuses. nearly a third of gop primary voters voted against him. what will actually be on display is disunity inside the state republican party where the rivalry between its thought right former leader and more established friendly replacement has taken place. we heard but lot about the uncommitted vote at michigan on the democratic side but what do you make of this infighting amongst republicans in this
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battleground state for nevada? >> i think that that republican party is doing everything it can to aid the democrats and joe biden in michigan, in particular. most of the coverage last tuesday, out of michigan, i think, got it wrong. the uncommitted vote and that democratic primary was right within the historic norms. that's not to say that it joe biden doesn't have issues with his progressive base, especially with gen z voters. but those are fixable. what thought numbers around trump show and michigan is that two or three out of every ten voters, voting in the republican primary, and 70% of those voting floor nikki haley near the, if going to vote for donald trump. that is the real story. that's how michigan should be covered. among college educated voters and michigan, especially women, chlamydia is more popular than
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donald trump. >> michelle, we mentioned uncommitted votes against biden in michigan, roughly 13%. in 2012, nearly 11% of michigan voters vote uncommitted instead of supporting president obama who still went on to win reelection. since the, vote the case for negotiations president biden told about have gotten underway and just today we saw what first airdrops of human current aid into gaza. has biden made any progress towards fixing this political vulnerability? >> no, i don't think that he has. and i also think it is worth pointing out, you are right, that michigan uncommitted vote was 11% in 2012, but that was, since then they've had mail-in voting and early voting and in 2020, when you hit a very competitive primary, the uncommitted foot was 20,000 -- this time it was 100,000.
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i think there's different ways to read it and i don't think really biden can't afford to lose any votes, especially in a state like michigan. and the eighth drop. yes, every tiny little bit helps. but in some ways it creates a perception of fecklessness. we have to go around how sensible greatest ally to get aid -- to aid the people that our bombs have commiserated. it seems very contradictory and i think it just underlines how biden's reluctance to take a hard line with israel, because of his understandable sympathy with them after october 7th, has created a situation where you really have netanyahu spitting in his face and getting away with. it >> jeff, footing is underway in that district of columbia's republican primary. it could be one of nikki haley's
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based chances yet to win a primary outright. the trump camp is so blurry about this possibility there even hinting they might try and check the voter rolls to try and catch disloyal lobbyists. what do you make of the threat and of haley's chances in this? >> i think when donald trump were issuing threats, people should listen. they follow through on their threats. but i think if nikki haley winds the washington, d.c., primary, they trump campaigned will spin this in their favor. it will be a hollow victory for haley because the trump campaign will spin it as the swamp voting against donald trump. so it's going to fit right into his narrative, at least to the republican base. >> michelle, let's turn to trump's trial calendar. this, week the supreme court through trump legal lifeline after deciding to take up his
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claim that presidents enjoy and almost total immunity from prosecution. meanwhile, there was no final trial title session in florida after a day of hearings yesterday in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. trump has also sought to delay proceedings until after the general election. all of this feels like an effort to avoid any guilty verdicts against trump before the election. which polls suggest could sway some voters against him. how much should these trials, and the trial dates, matter to democrats? >> that matter tremendously. that is why -- and some ways it is predictable that judges trump appointed us flipping and to help him get reelected. that's always been the essential bargain behind republican support for his presidency. they get the judges and he gets
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the power. but i think what is especially important is whether he gets convicted and one of these big cases that could really result in jail time. so voters know they're making the choice to elect a president that could put us into this constitutional crisis, because we don't have a mechanism to deal with us whether someone can pay endeley parchment themselves and get out of jail long enough to serve four years in the presidency. that decision, i think, he doesn't want legislation to be in front of voters. so it looks like, with the help of some of these very right- wing partisan judges, the only case we know is going to go for it before the election is what i think a lot of people think is the weakest. the alvin bragg case in new york about the hush money payments to a porn star. >> let me ask you this, michelle , i'm at of time, but i have to ask you. what do you make of trump
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winning michigan and missouri and taking all of the delegates? >> this is his party. the people -- as jeff said, the people voting for nikki haley, most of them are probably not going to vote for that republican ticket in november. the republican party is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the trump family. it is suitable he's about to install his daughter in law at the top of the rnc so he can turn it into a slush fund for his legal troubles. >> all rights, jeff timmer and michelle goldberg, think you both for being with us. coming, up in this weeks gotcha. goodbye and good riddance to mitch mcconnell, the longest serving and arguably most divisive senate leader in u.s. history. we will be right back. ack. here's to beating these two every thursday.
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this week, mitch mcconnell said eight will step down as the senate's longest serving later in november. since the announcement, much has been made of the senators longevity and political skills. however, i would argue that kentucky senator will leave washington much worse off than when he arrived. when mcconnell became minority leader in 2007, the senate already had a well earned reputation for blocking legislation and forcing tough compromises. but with mcconnell at the helm, obstruction wasn't a tool, it was the goal. take a listen to what mcconnell had to say about his political priorities under president obama. >> what can americans expect from republicans? let's start with the big picture. over the past week, some have
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said it was and delicate of me to suggest that our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny president obama a second term. >> mcconnell undermined the integrity of the senate by manipulating the roles of the chamber to obstruct just about anything president obama wanted to do. and know where it was that strategy more clear than and mcconnell's month long blockage of a nominee merrick garland in 2016. mcconnell was able to run out the clock on obama's supreme court pick ahead of the election, allowing trump to name a conservative to the seat in that next term. mcconnell went back on his own role just four years later, 11 trump to place conservative amy coney barrett on the court on the high court, just days before the election in 2020.
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mcconnell's heavy-handed approach to supreme court appointments not only makes a mockery of the senate's advice and consent rule, it has moved the courts far to the right of the american public opinion on issues like abortion, voting rights, and affirmative action. as a result, approval ratings of the court has fallen to all- time lows. the final washington institution mcconnell undermined was the presidency itself. because while mcconnell and former president trump never sought to eye, mcconnell routinely did everything in his power to shield trump from accountability for his actions. mcconnell voted against impeaching trump twice. the second vote coming after trump's supporters led a violent insurrection that desecrated mcconnell's beloved senate chamber itself.
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welcome back to politicsnation. on friday, the university of florida announced it had terminated all positions focusing on diversity, equity, and inclusion. including for attain full-time jobs and appointed -- 15 appointed positions as well. the move comes amid efforts by the state board of education and governor desantis to defund all diversity programs at state funded institutions. john it may not talk about it is alfonso david, president of the black economic forum and legal counsel to the fullest fund, which is currently facing a federal civil rights case.
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good to have you back, oh phones are. let's start tonight with your reaction to the headlines out of florida. we have been seeing conservatives target diversity and affirmative action programs at colleges and universities nationwide. your reaction? >> thank you. it is disturbing what's happening in florida right now because it's not a crime and the data. i think it is very important to correct discussions about dei in that day type of course there's a lot of, noise a lot of misinformation. we are seeing it from the far- right. let's talk about what the public thinks about dei last year there was a survey issued by harris polling and the black economic alliance. that polling found, this is very important, that antidote and the united states by very what margins support but this is taking active steps to reflect the diversity of the american population. we are talking about 78% of
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americans support dei. most notably, this broad support of companies efforts to increase diversity righteous across racial lines, across generational lines, across ideological lines. we saw that, across abdullah lines, using this as an example, 67% of republicans surveyed support dni. 90% democrats. a broad coalition across generations. 74% of boomers, 60 or 83%, i should say, of millennials supports dei. and again, it is not within just talk about the public's perspective. just think about businesses. a survey conducted two months ago by morning consult for public private surveys institute found that majority of senior executives across political affiliations sit that diversity initiatives play a critical role and the success of their company. >> we are only talking about
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reflecting the populace. and for people, as you state, in this data, the majority of americans are saying of course colleges and businesses and corporations ought to reflect the population that are paying taxes, that a via consumers. it just seems normal. let me say this. we mentioned you represent the fearless fund, a capital project focused on black female entrepreneurs being sued under the civil rights act. i was at you with you -- and it is their fearless funded founders defended their program. full months later, one of the funds founders, aerial simone, joined us to protest at the offices of hage fund manager pill ecklund who led the charge to remove clawing guy from harvard and one of the leading
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proponents against dei. as the attorney of fearless fund, what is the latest you can tell us about that case? >> i want to thank you for protesting to highlight the hypocrisy that we are seeing when he says one thing, but dylan another through the lens of dei. so, thank you. with respect to the fullest fund, as you mentioned, this is a venture capital firm. it also has a charitable army supporting black women entrepreneurs and other women of color. they were sued by edward blom and his organization. we asked the global black economic forum as well as -- our part of a strong legal team representing the fearless fund. we were successful in defeating the alliances petition for preliminary injunction they sought in emergency appeal from a three judge panel which stayed the issuing of currents, and now we are before the 11th
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circuit. we are awaiting ruling from the 11th circuit. i want to remind everyone, the main principle we are fighting for here is economic freedom. we highlighted to a court, and now we stated here, the fearless foundation is a charitable organization providing grants consistent with their mission. this is no different than every other charitable organization that does the same thing. there are no claims against those organizations, that their practices are violating federal law. so we're awaiting the rolling. >> the congressional black caucus, who's chairman will be on this program tomorrow with may from selma, they are pricing corporations who made to force the pledges after george floyd's murder in 2020 two state a. colors and make good on the commitments they made to funding racial progress, even as they are now under pressure from conservatives to wind down diversity programs. who do you think winds out in this total war?
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>> i think that congressional black caucus ultimately winds of this. i applaud their efforts. as we think about ultimately political resistance here, i think we always have to think about the extraordinary power that we have as a collective. so i applaud everything that the congressional black caucus is doing because of businesses are making pronouncement about their support of dei, i think it is fair to hold him accountable to support dei. and we also know dei supports the bottom line. so all the investment that businesses said they would make for black communities and brown communities, i think it is important that they be held accountable to make sure that those commitments are indeed made. and as we think about ultimately where this all leads, right, this was all about making sure that we honor our right to vote. yes, dei is under attack that we have a voice at the ballot box. i want to make sure folks don't forget that.
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as a constitutional right that doesn't exist everywhere around the globe but it is just here in the u.s. and people have to exercise their right to vote. one less the unmentioned on that. the global black economic forum and the lawyers committee for civil rights announced a partnership a few days ago to mobilize black voters at the 2024 essence festival of culture. we are prioritizing election protection -- getting voluntary integrated into the infrastructure laura's committee has created. it is incredibly important we use of once this election nation, otherwise outright's are on the ballot. and if we are not there to vote, we might lose them. >> you know, i've been to every essence festival. but this is more important this year than ever. will obey the, pushing to go to register and vote. let me bring this up. a new report from a business data firm found that while overall stock funding fell by four to 7% last year, the drop
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for black founded companies was nearly twice that. 71% decline in 2023, going from an all-time high of five billion dollars in the year buffet george floyd's murder to just over 700 million last year. the first time since 2016 that black-owned start ups failed to say a billion dollars in funding. how much of that is from this anti-diversity push, alphonso, and briefly, i'm out of time, but i have to ask, what does the impact look like for black entrepreneurs? >> the impact is severe. this is edward blom's goal. to try to defund black businesses that are trying to address systemic inequities through a systems. they are looking to attack these businesses, to make sure these but this is kind function and ultimately to ski away investors who are looking to
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support black businesses and brown businesses or across the country. so if you have not heard about this, i would ask for folks to engage, come out to the essence festival of culture. we'll be speaking at south by southwest as part of the council for economic opportunity. thank you for the national action network being part of the council. and we have to amplify athlete of the year because black and brown businesses at the a looking today construct the systems that have historically the funder those businesses, have made it more difficult for those businesses to grow. we have an opportunity to shine a bright light on oppressive systems and we have to work against them. >> it is blatant hypocrisy. on the one hand, they say, don't ask for a handout. on the other, they insist they don't want us in business for ourselves. alphonso david, as always, thank you for being with us. the increase of attacks on reproductive freedom has not decreased abortions.
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just ahead, we look at that real effect these restrictive laws are having on the lives of american woman. stay with us. with us.
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welcome back to politicsnation. lawmakers and alabama this week passed legislation protecting and giving protection to in
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vitro fertilization after a controversial state supreme court roland last month found frozen embryos can be considered children. the impact of the court decision as being felt throughout the country. in the senate, mississippi republican cindy hyde-smith blocked quick passage of a bill protecting access to ivf and doctors who perform the procedure. joining me now is doctor blackstock, founder and ceo of advancing health equity. she is also the author of her new new york times bestselling book legacy, a black physician reckons with racism in medicine. thank you for joining us tonight uchi. doctor, 40 was out there who are going through ivf have
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loved ones. what did that need to know about this court ruling and the firestorm it has created? >> thank you so much for having me. i think people in the reproductive justice world recognize that this is probably a long time coming. that embryos, which are essentially a cluster of cells, fertilized eggs, will be considered a protected class. people have to consider what's happening right now and alabama. for a ivf facilities close and down for care. they're not to own procedures. the university of alabama and birmingham, for example, has suspended ivf procedures for now until the figure out what's going on. and unfortunately only people with mains might be able to take their frozen embryos to another state. but even that might be an issue. because facilities might not
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want to give those embryos to their patients sophia of legal repercussions, if something happens to those embryos entrance for. so this is a really very, very profoundly serious ruling that is going to impact everyone who is entrusted and having difficulty getting pregnant and using ivf. again, we know that alabama has some of the most draconian reproductive health was on the book. this would be the continuation of. that >> this ivf ruling comes in the wake of dobbs, it seems all reproductive rights are under assault. new data from the society of a family plan released wednesday finds the number of abortions performed in the u.s. since the overturning of roe v. wade has not changed. however, more women are traveling to less restrictive
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space to get them. another study finds many of the most restrictive states hit higher levels of rape reluctant pregnancies. as a doctor, focused on patient safety, how much does numbers concern you? >> very, very much. these restrictive abortion laws are going to have a consequence on health and could even lead to harlem and death. many restrictive abortion laws, like an alabama, our own states with the highest maternal mortality rights and they hit a maternity care deserts. they already have very few mentioned that he health professionals and with the increasing laws they are actually -- papal actually leaving these states. health providers leaving because they are too scared to practice in the state. essentially it is going to become more dangerous to consider becoming pregnant and
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given birth in these states. >> you have written a new book called legacy about your extraordinary story. you and your sister and your mother of doctor's. you talk about, in the book, about discrimination you'll faced as a black woman in medicine. as well as the bias black female patient's face on a daily basis. tell me about what drove you to write this book now. >> reverend al, a lot of it is connected to what we're talking about in terms of not under ticket, and terms of how bleak the thing people and women ought not able to get the care, the quality care, the culturally responsive care of health professionals actually listen to them, listen to their concerns. often their concerns are being dismissed, ignored, and minimized. we know that happens even with someone as famous as serena williams, one of the greatest athletes of all-time was not
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listened to. so it was important for me to connect the dots for traders and for a broad audience. not just people on health care or medicine to understand why in 2024 we are seeing the maternal health crisis that we are seeing. which if it myself, and i've said this, as a black woman with a hollow to degree, and the great and medical school, i am still three or four times more likely that my what p is to die of pregnancy complications. this is not just about socioeconomics that is. this is about the racism embedded not only in our health care system but all of the social institutions and our country. >> all right, thank you doctor blackstock for the book. it is cold legacy, a black physician reckons with racism in medicine. thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. with us. e. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein,
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