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alex with reports. i'm -- in for alex. we are going to begin in washington d.c., mayor republican primary voters, they are casting ballots today. this gop presidential, race donald, trump nikki haley squaring off for the city's 19th delegates, republican convention, we are going to take you there in just a couple of minutes. then, trump handedly winning yesterday's michigan idaho and missouri caucuses. as the candidates look ahead to super tuesday, nikki haley is vowing to fight on. her supporters, say she should not give up yet. >> i think that she is a very unifying figure for democrats and independents under republicans in this country, my whole family actually switched from democrats to independents to vote for nikki. >> she is the only stain candidate out there that we still have left. i think she takes a balanced point of view. she is also very strong in terms of financial, in responsibility which i find
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very important. >> do you know who you are voting for? >> probably trump. probably. unless she amazes me, i could be persuaded. >> could be persuaded, and today also marks a 59th anniversary of bloody sunday, that voting rights advocates are gathering in alabama where vice president kamala harris is expected to speak. all of this as trump seeks to delay his flurry of legal entanglements as he forges ahead to clinching the republican nomination. all right, a big part of that clinching, it could have been this, week trump is not looking to roll through the super tuesday states, as he leaves the delegate count to 47 to 34. -- >> come on, raleigh, i know we can do it. >> a super tuesday showdown. >> donald trump nikki haley duking it out in north carolina. >> in a general election, we are given a choice. in a primary, we make our choice. >> are we going to win by the
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biggest margins i think in history. >> the gop rivals crisscrossing the country, before super tuesday when more than 800 delegates across 15 states are at stake. trump inching closer to the nomination with a caucus win in missouri. the former president and much of the republican party, ready to call them their nominee, even though the primary is not actually over. trump seemingly worked at haley staying power. >> people say don't even talk about her. i know her very well, she's very average. >> super tuesday's contest could essentially secure trump's spot as the parties -- and his win so far have been decisive. more than 50% in new hampshire, nearly 60% in south carolina, and almost 70% in michigan days later. for an almost incumbent like trump, losing between 30 and 40% of primary voters shows a party far from united. >> to have an incumbent like donald trump not get 40% in the early states, what we have received in the states are not small numbers.
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they can't be ignored. >> healy fouling to stay in the race until at least next week, but her supporters hoping she stays longer. >> i would like to honestly see her take it all the way to the convention. it pains me that he still has such a hold on our party. >> now it is not just voters looking for trump alternative here. republican senators from to super tuesday states alaska and maine just endorsed haley this weekend. senators lisa murkowski and susan collins or frequent trump critics, as well as haley's first senator endorsements. back to you. >> thank you to nbc's ali vitali for that. i want to go now to nbc's -- who is in washington d.c. for us covering in the d.c. primary there. it is the republican primary day in the nation's capital, you are the primaries only polling site. what do you see here? >> good morning, yasmin. so this is, we have seen a steady stream of voters come into the madison hotel here, this is the only place where republicans can vote in the primary, we actually are also seeing things pick up as people
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coming from after church as well as that after brunch crowd, they are coming here to vote. now people i spoke with say there are a range of issues that are driving them out today, ranging from the economy, to border security, as well as crime here in washington d.c.. now this is an urban area, the relatively high portion of college educated voters, and that is seen as a possible advantage for nikki haley in washington d.c. seen as a place where nikki haley could possibly have the best chance to pick up a win in one of these primary contest. trump did win the district and an uncontested, race but he came in a distant third back in 2016 third to senator marco rubio. i spoke to the mixed voters about why they are coming out today and who they are voting for. take a listen. >> i voted for trump, i think under trump we had a stellar economy, and our military was strong, and useful, and our
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border was secure. >> i really am not sure to be honest with you. i want to see, i'm guessing it is trump and haley on the, ballot but i can see i'm not terribly enthused with either one. >> i voted for donald trump. what he did, and we could see it around the city, when he was around here the city was very different. and these four years that it has all been downhill. so yes, i need him back. >> now i do want to say the second gentleman there, the men and the green shirt and the, hat after he left the poll seem to tell me he ended up voting for nikki haley. he said that was who he thought was the best choice. now here in d.c., 19 delegates are up for grabs. the polls were starting to open on saturday, and they will close here, excuse me, friday and they will close here at seven pm. we expect to have results about an hour after that. >> rejection first, -- on the legal front on a trump is looking ahead to his january six criminal trial in d.c.
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federal court, right now the trial date is in limbo with the supreme court deciding to take up his immunity appeal. once that ruling comes in, the pressure will be on judge tanya chutkan to decide if she will force a presidential nominee to sit in court in the final days of a campaign. here's what trump told voters last night about the case. >> it is really impossible for me to get a fair trial and you see, but that is okay, don't worry, i don't know what will happen, it is all going to, work out we will come out so i'm more popular than i ever was. because of these people. more popular it is true. >> i want to bring in joyce events of the former federal prosecutor at the album law school professor and msnbc legal analyst and host of the podcast sisters in law. joyce, always, it is a pleasure, referent thank you for joining us on this. can we talk about the timeline here? the d.c. case especially, with the hearing, the oral arguments
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happening april 22nd, then we are looking obviously to wait for the decision to come out which will likely be some are saying, and i don't know where you are on this, somewhere towards the end of the term, i.e. summertime, then if we are thinking about a possible trial, are we looking at fall biscuits in area? >> right. there are a lot of moving pieces. as you say, there are different predictions, but what is written instead is that the supreme court will hear argument on this appeal on april 22nd. they can move slowly, or quickly, when it came down to bush v. gore in the 2000 election contest, they decided a day after hearing the oral argument. we know that they often take much longer. it is possible they would not decide this case until the last week of june, or the first week of july when the supreme court term ends. then the case will go back to judge chutkan, that will take a few days for the mandate to issue. she has already told donald
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trump that he has about 88 days of preparation time left on the clock. that is why his lost during the -- appeal proceedings, and you know, do the math, something i did not like to do in public, i want to law school to avoid doing this. that is roughly three months out from when the case returns to the district court before trump can go to trial. >> do you think judge tanya chutkan would be willing to put the former president of the united states running for reelection on trial a month, or maybe 45 days out from when people will be casting their votes, or will she take that do you think into consideration? should she? >> you know, it is interesting that both she and judge cannon in florida have shown a lack of willingness to listen to arguments from trump's lawyers about how trial schedules, or litigation schedules might interfere with campaigning. i think that is appropriate. every criminal defendant has conflicts, and they have a job
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or family events that they want to attend. i understand that there is special sensitivity, here and it wouldn't in many ways be unfortunate to have the former president on trial during the election. but nonetheless, there is a speedy trial act that enters both to the benefit of defendants, and to the public, the supreme court has made it very clear that the public's entire to a speedy trial, just like a defendant's. with all the delays in these cases, it is tough to justify pushing them back further. >> but judge aileen cannon on friday was willing to entertain them. she was the one who brought up and ask the question of the government's attorney says about the 60-day rule. >> she did. and you, know judge cannon is a former appellate law in the u.s. attorney's office in miami, i assume she knew the answer before she heard it. these so-called 60-day rule at doj is a rule that says prosecutors can't take over it of investigative steps, or can't indict a case in a way that would interfere with an
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election. here is the thinking behind that, yasmin. what you don't want is for doj to drop news on the public that has no idea it is coming. that a candidate is under investigation. that truly could impact an election. that is not what this situation is about. these cases were indicted last year, the court now controls the schedule, this is about when the case will go to trial. that is not something that falls within doj's policy, and merrick garland made that clear about six weeks ago, he was answering questions and he also set trial settings have been whenever the case is ready to go to trial. this is not something that is within doj -- >> what i found,, joyce interesting, down in florida, jack smith's team prosecuting lawyers, attorneys, they -- for a july trial, date july 12th i believe. as i was thinking about, it i thought that if for instance judge aileen cannon or to
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choose july, let's say, that would mean absolutely tanya chutkan's trial would likely not go forward because of the overlap we would see. and my seeing this wrong? or could there still be room for tanya chutkan? i was curious as to why his team was advocating for that july trial date if they really wanted to try the d.c. trial first. >> right. so i think that july trial date presupposes what the supreme court will not decide the presidential immunity appeal until say, the first week of july, then trump gets three months to preparation for trial. so i think that is the assumption there but look, there are a lot of moving pieces. just because judge cannon set a trial, she did not seem inclined to go with the governments july suggestion. but if she, did that date still wouldn't be written in stone. all sorts of things could come up, where that trial date might not hold, and so at this point
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it is really difficult to understand and make decisions about whether the president will face any criminal trials other than the one in manhattan. it starts later this month before the election. >> what i also found interesting is there was really no tension between judge aileen cannon down on florida, and donald trump and his attorneys. however there did seem to be some tension between aileen cannon, and they prosecuting attorneys on the case, which is not necessarily something we have seen in new york with judge kaplan overseeing the e. jean carroll case, or judge engoron was overseeing the trump civil fraud trial cases well. politico saying this, that -- made a suggestion that aileen cannon was not moving quick enough. she said, quote, i can assure you that in the building, there is a good deal of judicial work going on. how do you see this tension playing out between the prosecuting attorneys and judge aileen cannon?
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there were more moments like this on friday as well. >> well look, she has been slow to rule on motions, slow to deal with the classified discovery questions that are before her. the prosecutors i think are at the end of the road. they realized that she confirms -- and in some cases, she seems to have ripped on the scales of justice in trump's favor. perhaps it is just an experience, maybe taking her, longer to handle her first significant case involving classified documents that prosecutors did something pretty interesting in their request for a trial date that has not gotten a lot of notice. in addition for the data itself, they asked that the judge require the parties to give monthly updates on the progress they are making. that is the governments effort to avoid houston area where trump would come back to trial and say two or three months, and say judge, the government has not been doing its job so we need more time.
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the government is doing everything they can to manage the behavior. >> joyce vance, thank, you appreciate it. all right, new reaction everybody to the uncommitted vote in michigan, and how president biden may keep it from impacting his reelection campaign. we are back in just 60 seconds.
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all right we are following breaking news at this hour, hamas officials are in egypt to discuss the terms of a potential cease-fire and hostage deal according to a senior u.s. official. israel has agreed to post a fighting of hamas agrees to really sick elderly, and fema hostages, meanwhile the white house is still facing criticism for its handling of the israel- hamas war. we want to go straight to nbc correspondent -- live for us at the white house. if you will, talk us through, this especially what we have been hearing from members of congress today on the front. >> yes, yasmin, the back front of this is essentially how this now nearly five-month-long war between israel and hamas has become a political
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vulnerability for the president as he campaigns for reelection. we have reported on these increasing protests by pro palestinian groups during his and his surrogates offense. these protests calling for the president to call for a permanent cease-fire in this war, to put more pressure on prime minister netanyahu as this war continues. and, we are seeing that play out on the 2020 campaign trail, several democrats on the sunday shows were asked about the presidents actions and what potentially he could do more to be able to tamp down these growing calls. listen to several democrats come to his defense. >> i think you see him stepping, up using more and more pressure, but i think this is a critical moment where social order is unraveling inside gaza. i have both publicly and privately counseled the president to use whatever leverage he has to try and get this long term cease-fire. it has to happen tomorrow.
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>> i think you have seen a change that the white house has been reaching out more, to the abdomen american muslim community, hearing their hurt, i am told that they are doing many things directly, but i pray we will get a temporary cease-fire and the minute. i know they have been working hard for, that and that it may lead to a permanent cease-fire. >> the president and this white house no doubt closely following any and all developments that come out of those developing cairo talks about a cease-fire deal that you mention between hamas officials, qatari and egyptian officials, because the u.s. officials and the president still say they are hopeful that a cease-fire deal will be able to be reached by the start of the holy month of ramadan on march 10th, yasmin. now exactly week away. >> nbc's allie raffa for. us thank, you ali, i want to bring in democratic senator from minnesota jimmy smith to -- thank you for joining. us i appreciate it.
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let's talk about a potential cease-fire here. near colleagues chris murphy ended up saying if israel hamas cannot agree to a bilateral cease-fire, then israel should halt military operations on their own because of humanitarian crisis that is continuing to unfold in gaza. what is the likelihood even at this point considering who is in charge their prime minister bibi netanyahu and his conservative cabinet. >> well i think this is an incredibly difficult and very important moment. there is an opportunity if bibi netanyahu will truly get serious about this of achieving at least a temporary cease- fire, working towards returning of the hostages, and of course looking down the road to a place where we can have two states in the middle east, israel and palestine. people who live on the gaza strip, have an opportunity for self determination, and for
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building their own life. i think that the president is doing everything that he can in this moment to pull the table, and also understand that a cease-fire is not real if hamas continues to attack israeli citizens. so it is a very fraught moment, and i'm hopeful that we will have good news in the days ahead. so israel is really one of the only countries in the world in which we provide unconditional aid to. there is an aid package sitting in congress that has not yet passed because of the holdup in congress, 14 billion dollars worth of arms and ammunition aid that the united states has promised to israel amidst this war. is it time to provide additional aid, or halt it altogether? -- until israel stops its offense on gaza. >> i mean, absolutely. here is the situation. i work with many of my senate, democratic colleagues to work on legislation that would make
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it clear that any country including israel, but any country that receives foreign military assistance from the united states will be held accountable for following u.s. law and international law. it is important also to remember that president biden signed a presidential memorandum stating that fact, and in fact within a month or so, israel and any other country like ukraine that receives foreign aid must certified to the united states that they are following international humanitarian law, and are allowing humanitarian aid to get into war zones like gaza. if that doesn't happen, then the president can exercise his full power to halt military aid. so i think this is an important bit of leverage for the president has with netanyahu, as i said in the beginning, seems sort of hell-bent to continue this terribly destructive to civilian life battle in gaza. >> i want to bring up this new poll that came out yesterday in
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the new york times, is siena college poll which is not necessarily showing president biden with good numbers right now. 48 to 43 in a head to head matchup with donald trump. it is of course within the poles margin of error, are you worried about this? >> well look, what i do in moments like, this is a look at what american voters are doing, not what they are saying, not how they are responding to some online poll that they are participating in. new reality is, time after time voters are voting for democrats. president biden is actually outperforming pulls in the elections we have had on the primary side, and presidential byzantine performing those polls. so this is a very important moment. this election will be desperately close, and still americans everywhere after look at this and say what my going to do? what is the role that i have to play to make sure i built the country i want, and much was in this moment couldn't be more
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clear between president biden who is on the side of building a country that works for americans, and president trump who is on the side of himself and fighting with what appears to be a battle of chaos and retaliation, and vengeance. >> in that effort, i want to talk about ivf and the bill that you signed to protect ivf and for two lucky treatments on a national level, in which senate republicans -- blocked. what is that saying to you about the state of reproductive rights and the protection of reproductive rights in this country? how worried should women be? >> once again, i'm very worried. i think i have such empathy for the women and families in alabama who are on the path of building a family, using this incredible technology, only to have the rug pulled out from
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underneath. some of them in the middle of, this very challenging, but a very successful. so again look at what these republicans do, not what they say. they have professed to support future federalization, and that other fertility treatments, but yet the blocked legislation in the senate to make that the law of the land. over 100 of them in the u.s. house of representatives have signed on to legislation that life begins at inception legislation which is at the root of all of this. again, i take this all back to donald trump, that he hadn't taken the action he took, the supreme court wouldn't be what it was, wrote wouldn't have been overturned, and this terrible situation in alabama would be very very different. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> snowed out, and stuck, indoors a big effort to -- after this life threatening blizzard. we will be right back. right b. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth
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to that powerful storm out west, or residents in california and nevada are hoping for some relief today from heavy snow and high winds. a major swath of california's interstate 80 remaining closed in the nevada state line, more than 20,000 households without power in that, state the wind forecast to keep blowing more than 100 miles an, hour 7 million people still under winter alerts through monday, and we see steve patterson is on the ground for us in california, wow, steve the snow just keeps on coming. >> it doesn't stop. another daily battle, it goes faster into a war of attrition for, crews for chp officers, and for the residents who have to live in this. we saw the sun briefly today, and i remember my producer and i having a conversation about how we had it felt because of how long it has been since we have seen anything but blowing snow. once again, the blowing snow has been right back, we expect another day of this.
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but as you have been referencing, perhaps the last day of, this this storm strangely enough does not feel like, it but it is the post a break at some point, perhaps later on today, giving away from one storm to what we expect to be another system to follow by it with its own maybe 1 to 2 feet of snow in the mountain regions and further reaches down lower where we are. the storm though still going to produce anywhere from 5 to 10 feet depending on where you are, upwards of 12 feet if you're up in the mountains. the biggest worry of course is what is happening behind me, i don't know if you can see, it but this is the roadblock, the interstate 80, still the major thoroughfare in this entire mountain region shut down for an should miles because of how unsafe, how the white conditions affect drivers and how it is just impossible to try and navigate this thing. we have been speaking to officials there say there is no sign, there is no word about when it could reopen. it is a major stopgap for people who need to get around
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in this, area if you're coming anywhere from merino to south lake tahoe, it is just completely impossible. they have it locked down -- meanwhile hopefully this is sort of a last gasp of the storm, but i can tell you, right, now it sure does not feel like this. this could last another few hours, of course with the winds picking up it is still a very dangerous situation for everybody. >> unbelievable. steve patterson for us. and you know, never to say, wow the sun, is out because you get that something else this coming. it is like in the news business, never say it feels like a quite, day because then you know something is coming. all right, steve patterson, thank you. the supreme court under pressure, and the observation and it is being pulled in more directions than it is capable of being pulled in. so why take on the donald trump case. we will be right back. right b. . allergic reactions can occur, even days after using.
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in the state department... where he took on the epidemic of violence against women in the congo. i see a fighter, a tenacious problem-solver... who will go to congress and protect abortion rights and our democracy. because he sees a better future for all of us. i'm peter dixon and i >> welcome back. a supreme court already facing a backlog of cases has decided to take on yet another case. donald trump's claim about the presidential immunity. today's washington post highlighting the challenges for the nine justices who are already behind and releasing decisions from the start of the term in october. the court is drawing enormous criticism for basically boosting the former presidents efforts to delay his d.c. election obstruction trial until after the 2020 election. the supreme court is now -- i
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should -- say june or july, this morning republican presidential candidate nikki haley weighing in. >> to turn around and not stop people from breaking the law, when he had the opportunity to do, that it is questionable and that is what i think the courts are going to have to play with and figure out how they are going to do it. i'm not a lawyer, i'm not going to try and play in that. i've told you what i think in terms of the fact that anytime there is lawlessness, and you condone lawlessness, and you don't do anything to stop lawlessness, he is going to have to answer for that. >> i want to bring in don calloway, democratic strategist, host of the columnist podcast, national voter protection action fund. -- former florida congressman david jolly are both msnbc political analysts. don, let me start things off with you. as you are kind of watching this decision unfold, more this ruling on which they will hear now this immunity case on april 22nd, do you see this as being
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politically motivated? >> absolutely. that is absolutely politically motivated. it is to a degree whether the trump campaign in some respects allows a delay to happen. but in a general universe of saying prudence, there should not have been -- questions of law are so -- but i think you have to rely on the supreme court -- and potentially after look to nick gorsuch or someone else who has shown a reasonable -- to do the right thing here. the fact of the court 63 in favor of the conservatives does not look good for democrats, but this was so obvious based upon -- that we have established putting -- -- it is so obvious what the ruling is to, me but it is a -- and in doing so it is -- >> susan, with a waning trust
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and confidence in the supreme court that we have seen really happening over the last four years or so, do you think the supreme court in the manner in which it is constructed now survives this? >> yes, i do. it is the supreme court. and let's not forget, at times they make decisions like when it came to the 2020 election, that the did side on the facts and on the reality that joe biden was in fact elected president. there was some voter fraud. but what concerns me is what you said as far as the trust within the court, it seems to me that i will leave it to the two attorneys on the set to discuss the legal side, >> i wish you were all on set. >> i'm sorry, who are onscreen with me. but my concern is that the had
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an opportunity to kick this down, because it seems to me every legal scholar i have heard says, they will not grant any president complete immunity. but, they chose not to. and i guess, the only other second bite at the apple, here is how long do they -- to come back with a decision. they have not been, speedy has been talks about late schoon or early july at the end of the session, but maybe just maybe they can surprise us i hope. it is the reputation of the supreme court of the united states, not the 63 conservatives, -- >> susan, that has never really affected them in the last couple of years as we have talked about the reputation. david, i will bring you in on this, conversation and that is kind of why i am kicking around this question. i know it is a controversial, one because of what the supreme court means to our body of government, how it is engraved in our constitution, but
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because it has become such a controversial government body, a judicial body, david, and because of the decisions have affected this country negatively according to the polling and how americans feel if we look back at the dobbs decision specifically, but now also how it is affecting presidential -- the possibility of a former president of the united united states not being tried ahead of the election, november could affect how people turn out, whether or not a turnout, i just wonder if it will affect the future of this body and how it is reformed even if it is the supreme court as susan says. >> yes, look, its numbers are at an all-time low, but can it go lower? i think this is a tipping point for some otherwise sober minded board observers. i count myself as one. i think i'm sober minded. but i actually like the world in which the supreme court provides finality to this question, even though i think
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the answer should be, obvious what concerns me and the reason this would be a tipping point in their credibility for even those who would like the supreme court answer, is the delay. there is zero reason. there is no reason for the courts operations that it should take this long. if you look at how they handle bush v. gore, if you look how they handled the nixon, case they could do this thing in 2 to 3 weeks i'd give an answer. the other thing i think pauses a lot of questions is they actually in their statement one or two sentences, they gave a bit of -- us to the weather this might be official acts. >> alleged official acts they said. >> that is right, the whole case is they are not official acts. this was not donald trump and the administration of elections, he was trying to get votes for himself. he wasn't worried about any of joe biden's concerns. he was candidate trump. for the supreme court, the high court to suggest maybe there were official acts involved, that gives a lot of reason to question whether or not this is a fair. >> we talk about the delay,,
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right there is a colorado primary right around, we still haven't gotten the decision whether it comes to whether or not the former president could be on the colorado ballot, so as much as we talk about whether the supreme court actually knows the importance of these cases, how it could affect our electorate, the governing body of our country, this point, they haven't shown up in that way. >> no, they have not. but think in favor of the trump campaign is that only relatively blue states have thus far dismissed him from the ballot. so even if the supreme court with the -- uphold those states without action it will make a huge difference of the electoral college. but there isn't david and susan are, right there is a significant statement being made by the supreme court, and as much as we have not seen them declare they are going to move to resolve the swiftly, in theory it could be -- all the way until after the november election and then that puts us into an entirely new different state of uncertainty.
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but what is certainly does, and it pauses criminal, matters at pauses criminal trials, particularly in georgia which is still caught up with fani willis hearing about who will prosecute that case. so all of these things have to come together in a timing way, which certainly praised to the presidents, benefit and the supreme court has not helped that are all for the administration of justice has helped it with a trump campaign. >> so let's bring up this new york times college poll because i want you to you t points amongst likely voters by four points. all within the margin of error. but this is going to be a head to head, really a tight match up with whatever poll that you are looking at. how concerned, at this point, should the biden administration, the president be, with his reelection bed? >> well, you're absolutely right, this is going to be a tight race no matter what. the differences, when campaigns do their interim police, they
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don't ask the same questions as public polling that we see here. they're oltrying to find out wh is -- they have eight months to find more people to persuade more people, to use the campaign to do so. what's concerning to me about the public polling, especially [inaudible] while, is twofold. one, it's four -- more importantly, they build a narrative. they continue to have it in the public realm because that is what we discussed. i don't think joe biden's age would have been nearly off the t charts as it is now if we hadn't started polling yet so early. i think that there are danger signs for the biden campaign, but, again, these polls are really meant to create narratives, not intentional narratives, but that's what they do. >> nathis is exactly, david, wh it is that it's important for instance, to see this trial
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play out before the election. i'll tell you why, since i've been llon the campaign trail talking to folks, especially amongst republican voters in voting in these primaries, many of them have said to me, whether or not it's true or not, this is what nthey say to me. that, while they're supporting donald trump now, and when i come back and say, what about the indictment? what about the 90 plus indictments? what about the accusations in d.c.? i call them alleged accusations because it's also their voters that i'm speaking with. what about all of this? they say to me, he hasn't been convicted yet. right? i say, will that change your mind? they say, it could possibly change my mind. yet, if this doesn't play out, they could potentially be voting for someone that would have been convicted before they cast their ballot, and had the supreme court not taken out this immunity case. >> yasmin, i think that's consistent with what we n,see i the polls as well. the conviction question is a
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wild card. some polls suggest it would. that is out lsof the control of the biden campaign. that is now, with the court. if you are ijoe biden, i think the most important thing about the polls that we continue to see is that donald trump's criminality is not moving people right now. whether or not there was a trial conviction, joe biden can't control. what he can control is what this race is about. the interesting thing in these polls, joe biden needs to make this about the economy, the border, and reproductive freedom. that should be the race. let the courts take care of the courts. -- >> not even the polls, but any type, anytime reproductive rights is on the ballot, reproductive rights wins, right? anytime reproductive rights is on the ballot for democrats as well, they win. as we look back at the midterms that feel like 17 years ago. all right, guys, appreciate you all. thank you. as i'm talking about the supreme court, everyone, we have some breaking news from the supreme court. we e just learned something potentially e big for tomorrow the last couple of minutes, after the break, we'll talk
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>> all right, we're following breaking news. we're just learning that the supreme court will be releasing decisions tomorrow, and one of those decisions could, and i want to stress, could, involve a very closely watched case. we have nbc's lawrence hurly. if you could, walk us through what we are learning here, and the potential at the very bay case that we've all been watching and waiting for being
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released tomorrow. >> yeah, the court, this afternoon, said for the first time that they're going to have rulings tomorrow. that's a little unusual for them to wait for the last minute to announce rulings. there is strong reasons to think that it could be this case in which president, ex president donald trump is contesting this colorado decision to kick him off the primary ballot. one of the big reasons why we think that is likely that it could be that decision is because of the colorado primary itself is on tuesday. the court, obviously, has a reason to want to get this ruling out. before then. you know, going back to -- last month, it seems pretty clear that the court was not, probably not going to kick him off the ballot. there is still a reason why they'd want to get that ruling out ahead of tuesday. that's why we probably think it is going to be that case. >> to be, clear what days to the supreme court usually release some of these decisions? how often do we get such kind of last minute notice that it's
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happening? >> it's pretty unusual. usually they have very set days where they have rulings. they usually announce it well ahead of time, usually on the friday before the week starts. this week, coming, up actually, it was not a week where they're scheduled to have any rulings. the court actually isn't sitting this week, they're just going to issue the ruling. the justices won't be in the courtroom, it'll just be a piece of paper in the courthouse, and online. so, it's a little unusual. that's because, you, know this case was being heard in an expedited schedule. they only took it up last month. it's been heard very quickly. they obviously want to get it out of the way, if that is indeed what it is. of, course we can't say for certain that it is. if it is, then, you know, they can understand why they'd want to get ahead of it this week. >> i'm just wondering what could've happened between yesterday and today that they wouldn't have given a heads, and i know the supreme court is kind of the very secretive body, we don't know a lot of
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the answers to these questions. but why would we have not learned at this on friday? why they wouldn't have given a heads up, as they normally do, on friday, that the decision would be released monday? >> yeah, the same element within the court is that the issue ruins when they are ready. so it may have been on friday, they hadn't quite signed off on it. maybe one of the justices was waiting to say something, or sign off on that opinion. you know, there's all kinds of things like that that could be an issue. basically, it seems like they were probably aiming to get this ruling out before the primary. it's already taken a little bit longer than some people thought it would because it's been, it was heard of such an expedited basis. it's a little last minute, but if that is indeed put the case, as you can see why they'd want to get out quickly. >> we're going to be talking more about this. lawrence, something that i want you to think about, because i'm going to bring it back in just a couple minutes to talk more about, this other things that are happening within the supreme court, but a question
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that i've had on my mind, we're not going to get an answer, now but just to put this out there free to think about over the next five minutes as, how is a supreme court justices deliberate. for instance, when it comes to the immunity here in. the actual abc's of their deliberations, they're doing it in person, or doing it behind closed doors. i'm fascinated by this question, and if you know the answer, think about it, ruminate, i'm going to come back to you in just a couple of minutes. for now, lawrence hurly, thank you. the number that took everyone's breath away at around 9:00 last night. that's coming up. last night. that's coming up. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. a force to be reckon with. no, not you saquon. hm? you! your business bank account with quickbooks money, now earns 5% apy. 5% apy? that's new! yup, that's how you business differently.
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>> a beautiful moment in nba history last night. lebron james became the first player to score 40,000 points and a career. the 39 year old reach the milestone with this move in the second quarter of the lakers game against the nuggets. the crowd gave him a steadied ovation. the lakers posting on

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