good day. i'm chris jansing live from msnbc headquarters in new york city. one case down and one potentially even bigger supreme court case to go. we're reading the tea leaves of the unanimous decision today as we look ahead to whether the former president can claim immunity. plus, are we seeing the biden administration adjust its approach to israel in real time? the big meetings at the white house today with one of prime minister netanyahu's biggest political rivals. and super tuesday now just hours away. we are live covering a critical race for governor in north carolina. and former president trump just elevated a controversial candidate, saying he's like martin luther king jr. on steroids. a lot to get to but we start with donald trump heading into the biggest day on the political calendar super tuesday on the heels of what pears to be his

most sweeping and significant legal win to date. today's supreme court ruling not only ends colorado's attempt to kick trump off the ballot but stops efforts in maine, illinois and at least 14 other states. the court's reasoning essentially that colorado had overstepped its bounds. the justices saying, "we conclude that states may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office but states have no power under the constitution to enforce section 3 with respect to federal offices, especially the presidency." it is a big win for donald trump. >> i think it will go a long way toward bringing our country together, which our country needs and they worked long, they worked hard and frankly they worked quickly on something that will be spoken about 100 years from now and 200 years from now. extremely important. essentially, you cannot take somebody out of a race because an opponent would like to have it that way.

>> although the top line decision on colorado was unanimous, four of the nine justices, three liberals along with justice amy coney barrett, wrote separate opinions expressing concern that through its ruling the court itself may have overstepped. i want to bring in nbc's ken dilanian who's been digging through the decision. nbc's garrett haake is in palm beach, florida. gerard mogliaca is a law professor. and charles coalition sman a brooklyn law professor and msnbc legal analyst. we just heard from president trump. one of the things he seemed to praise the supreme court for was ruling quickly. so does that mean if logic follows that they should in his mind rule quickly on presidential immunity? >> no, chris. certainly not. in every other criminal case and i believe the civil cases against donald trump his strategy here has been to delay, to push off these cases as long as possible. and that's been his legal and

political strategy as relates to the presidential immunity decision, which he would like to see take as long as humanly possible if it prevents him going on trial or prevents him potentially being convicted before voters have their say in november. what we just saw from donald trump was kind of a lengthy rambling statement in which he took some questions and largely tried to do in front of a television audience what he does at his rallies, which is link all of these cases against him together as one over over conspiratorial effort. don't expect any consistency here between wanting to clear up these ballot access questions, which matter a great deal since both colorado and maine are on the super tuesday slate tomorrow, and his criminal issues, which he would much rather see be delayed indefinitely if not dismissed entirely should the immunity ruling go his way, chris. >> all right, ken, let's go back

to what happened today. give us the nuts and bolts of this unanimous part of the ruling. what did the justices say? >> what they agreed on, chris, was that the states have no power to disqualify donald trump or any other candidate from the federal ballot. they said that nothing in the constitution requires that we endure such chaos. the chaos that they said would ensue if individual states could decide. and so you'd have him on the ballot in some states but not in other states. and there would be different timetables. it just would have been a big mess. and they all agreed from conservative to liberal that that was not tenable. where they disagreed was in how far the majority went. the majority concluded that -- and i say majority. it was a unanimous decision. but the people who wrote the 13-page unsigned opinion concluded that the only way to enforce this provision of the 14th amendment, written after the civil war, was for congress to enact a statute. but the three liberal justices in their concurring opinion said that they thought that went too far because it foreclosed other potential avenues of enforcing

it. for example, a federal lawsuit where a judge ruled that someone had committed insurrection and therefore was ineligible for ballot. as of right now, though, that's not the law of the land. this majority written opinion holds and is a 9-0 decision, and what it says is that this 14th amendment provision designed to keep insurrectionists off the ballot cannot be enforced by the states, chris. >> so charles, you had said you wanted to understand the court's rationale for its decision. did they give you one? what can you tell us about that? >> they did, chris. i was surprised but ultimately it did make sense. if you look at it from the reasoning they provided in the majority with the main opinion, one of the things that they said was that a state could not remove a federal officer from office and so by that logic you can't necessarily regulate who is on a ballot or you can't put in place or deny someone access to the ballot if you are unable to remove them. and so they sort of used that lodgic and laid that out pretty plainly. what i was very interested to

see was whether they were going to up it the other potential questions that i had, the due process question, which was an issue. i was surprised that they went with the jurisdiction issue the way that they did, but the decision was short. it was tight. and it was very definitive in terms of how it left the questions that needed to be answered. i do think, however, it does put a challenge in front of congress in terms of how congress decides to move forward and if congress ever decides to move forward around creating laws around how to trigger this section of the 14th amendment. >> all right, let's remind people. it's worth going back, i think. of some of the arguments they initially heard when this case went before and was argued before the court. here it is. >> why should a single state have the ability to make this determination not only for their own citizens but for the rest of the nation? >> your position has the effect of disenfranchising voters to a

significant degree. >> if colorado's position is upheld, surely there will be disqualification proceedings on the other side and some of those will succeed. it will come down to just a handful of states that are going to decide the presidential election. that's a pretty daunting consequence. >> so gerard, give us the big picket, what you think the significance is, not just of the ruling itself but of the arguments they laid out. >> well, i think that the trouble that i'm having with the opinion, having read it a couple of times, is it's unclear what's going to happen after the election if donald trump wins. that is to say, the opinion is clear that the states cannot exclude him from the ballot before the election for the reasons that you laid out and that were raised in the argument a few weeks ago. however, after the election the court could have said definitively either that donald trump is eligible to be president or that you cannot bring a challenge under the federal statute that governs the counting of the electoral votes.

but they didn't do that. and so it's -- people are going to be looking again at these challenges if he wins, and the court's opinion didn't answer the question of whether those challenges could go forward or not. >> so i want to talk a little more about the second part of this as well. and again, we said the vote was unanimous but then there were the four women who wrote in part this. "the court today needed to resolve only a single question, whether an individual state may keep a presidential candidate found to have engaged in industry rex off its ballot. the majority resolves much more than the case before us in a sensitive case crying out for judicial restraint it abandons that course." did it, charles? >> i think so. i mean, there are so many different other issues to be touched upon where the judiciary decided that for whatever reason

they weren't going to touch it. i also think that they understand quite clearly the implications of this decision on a number of different levels, whether you're talking about the timing, whether you're talking about the references to weighing in on an election in such a way that could potentially damage or threaten the appearance of the court's impartiality. all of these things clearly were a factor in the decision. but the ultimate opinion was relatively limited in terms of what it tacked about, what it chose to touch, and i don't necessarily know that it has answered many of the questions that could potentially be before it or that it could have chosen to address. in some respects that's not a surprise. when it comes to this particular supreme court and what we've seen from them more recently, vis-a-vis the power grab that they've taken in some of the cases they've taken on and the authority they've chosen to u i was a little bit surprise there'd wasn't additional commentary in certain areas. in many respects i would have to agree. >> i'm also interested, gerard,

when you consider two things, that on the main issue there was unanimity of opinion as we said, but then they diverged and amy coney barrett sides with the liberal justices. should we read anything into that? could it be a signal we should take into account as we think about how the court might rule on other trump-related cases? >> no, i don't think so. i think she's a more cautious jurist than some of the others and is more likely to take a narrow view, at least so far, in cases that come before them. i think what if may show a little bit is they're not working together as well as they could be, that as you could easily have imagined they could have ironed out some of these issues, maybe taking another week or two, and gotten to a single unanimous opinion rather than this fractured opinion where justice barrett then sort of says about the liberal justices, oh, why are you making such strident commentary, shouldn't we be turning the temperature down here? they have some issues to work out, especially as they get to

the criminal cases that are going to be harder. >> well, that's my question. so why -- i don't want to say fast-track. but do this relatively quickly. right? and to the point where donald trump said yes, they did this quickly. where they seem to be in some people's minds slow-walking the immunity case. >> well, i don't -- without knowing exactly what they're talking about behind the marble columns it's hard to know how that plays out. i mean, they clearly thought they had to decide this case before super tuesday, even though i don't know that that was really true, if they had decided it next week it wouldn't have made that much of a difference. on the slow-walking i suspect actually that one school of thought was that some of the justices wanted to put off the case on his criminal immunity until october because they would have said, well, that's when the normal course of things would go and the compromise was to have it be heard in april. so actually, that's probably as fast as it could go given how they may have thought about it.

but who knows? >> more to come. gerard magliocca, ken dilanian, charles coleman, thanks to you will of you. coming up trump's other legal entanglements, the shifting calendar timelines and what impact they'll have if any on trump's bid to retake the white house. we're back in just 60 seconds. e. we're back in just 60 seconds. a mystery! jessie loves playing detective. but the real mystery was her irritated skin. so, we switched to tide pods free & gentle. it cleans better, and doesn't leave behind irritating residues. and it's gentle on her skin. tide free & gentle is epa safer choice certified. it's got to be tide. introducing, ned's plaque psoriasis. he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. otezla can help you get clearer skin. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression, suicidal thoughts, or weight loss. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. live in the moment.

ask your doctor about otezla. zyrtec allergy relief works fast and lasts a full 24 hours so dave can be the... deliverer of dance. ok, dave! let's be more than our allergies. zeize the day with zyrtec. the supreme court's decision on the colorado ballot today did provide some clarity and finality to one of donald trump's legal battles. something still sorely lacking in others. the florida classified documents case, the georgia election interference case, and the january 6th case in d.c. all on hold right now as the judges or the supreme court decide what's next. joining me now, former republican pennsylvania congressman charlie dent and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin with me here on set, as you often are. lets go one by one. there was a time, right? when the d.c. interference case was supposed to start today.

so where are we? >> the d.c. interference case, chris, we are still on hold. there is no case more directly affected by the presidential immunity question that the supreme court is going to decide than the d.c. federal election interference case. that's where the presidential immunity issue arose. that case is on hold until that issue is resolved. >> in georgia judge mcafee says he'll make a decision within two weeks on what's going to happen with fani willis. i know you listened to the arguments, as i did. we heard the closing arguments just at the end of the week. what's your gut? >> my gut is first judge mcafee has to determine two things that i think are hard to predict. one is what is the correct legal standard to apply? is it just that there's a financial conflict of interest or the appearance of impropriety or does it have to be as some believe, and i do, that it is a financial conflict of interest that actually disadvantages the defendants, that it has some connection to their ability to defend themselves fairly in the

case? if that's the legal standard that governs, i predict judge mcafee will not disqualify fani willis. but that doesn't mean that fani willis and nathan wade are off the hook entirely. he could find that their testimony was not credible and refer them, for example, to the state bar for disciplinary hearings. that could also be true, for example, of terrence bradley, who himself is an attorney as well as a witness whose credibility was questioned by many of us watching those hearings. >> and could even that delay things? >> i don't think that that would delay things. i think that would be separate and apart from judge mcafee's ruling. and he also has to consider whether or not he needs additional evidence. you'll remember that stave sadow, president trump's lawyer, wants to put in some cell phone records that he thinks further corroborates the existence of a relationship between willis and wade before the point in time they're willing to admit they had a personal relationship. that is another variable here for judge mcafee to consider as he weighs his opinion. >> let's talk about judge cannon, who we thought maybe on friday would set a trial schedule for the classified documents case in florida, did

not happen. do we know anything now about that? >> we don't. and i personally didn't think judge coop was going to set a trial date. i actually thought there would be a very overt request from trump's lawyers and indeed there was, not to schedule the trial date until after the election, if at all, because they have a presidential immunity motion to dismiss pending in that case as well. and they may say their client's right to be immune not only extends to his ultimate liability in the case, chris, but also his right to be free from the burdens of trial. and if that's the case they may convince judge cannon that she shouldn't go forward with that case until they can resolve whether or not donald trump has to stand trial at all. >> so congressman, purely from a political standpoint, short of a conviction that could send him to prison do you think any of these cases will matter donald trump? because it seems like win lose or draw his poll numbers just keep going up. >> well, we have to be really careful with all these poll

numbers. i ienlds them too, and i see that donald -- joe biden clearly has a problem there's a lack of enthusiasm for him. but for donald trump he has a significant number of republicans that are not going to vote for him under any circumstances. and that's part of the reason nikki haley is still in this race. nikki haley is in this race in large part because she wants to be the alternative in the event something happens with donald trump in all these trials. a lot of republican voters want a presidential candidate, not a criminal defendant. so trump has a base problem. yes, he has the maga wing. but that 10% to 30% who say they're not going to support donald trump under any circumstances could be devastating to him. so i don't buy the argument these trials help donald trump. if anything it causes a lot of angst among some republicans and a significant number of independents. >> so what do you think at this point there really are in terms of people who have not decided? because look, it's just anecdotal evidence but our reporters are out there all the time in particularly battleground states talking to

people and there are people who say well, you know, i'm worried about joe biden's age, i'm worried about the economy, yeah i don't like some of the things donald trump does, says or has done in the past but i just don't know. how big a slice is that right now? >> i think that's a very big slice. look, somewhere close to -- between 60% to 70% of voters think one of these candidates joe biden is too old and the other, donald trump, is too crazy and dangerous. that's what we're dealing with. and many are looking for an alternative. i mean, rfk jr. is polling rather well. jill stein is -- and cornel west are likely to pick up votes as well. this is the challenge that they have. and whether or not no labels fields a candidate remains to be seen. but i think there has never been such an appetite for an alternative to the two major party candidates because of the glaring deficiencies of each candidate. that's the harsh reality right now. whether it will make a difference in the end, it's too soon to tell.

but there are a lot of voters out there who voted for biden last time, didn't want to vote for trump, probably won't vote for trump, are probably going to sit it out this time or vote for one of these small party candidates. >> lisa rubin, thank you as always. charlie dent, you're going to stick around. one of the things we know about voters is that reproductive rights here in the states is going to be very big in november. and we've got now this breaking news out of paris from just moments ago. massive celebrations are under way after france became the first country in the world to make abortion a constitutional right. lawmakers passing that measure in overwhelming fashion, 780 to 72. afterwards nearly the entire joint session of parliament gave it a long standing ovation. president emmanuel macron promised to bring the legislation forward after the dobbs decision in the u.s. rolled back the constitutional right that was established here by roe v. wade. up next, vice president kamala harris meeting with israeli war cabinet member benny gantz

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on their favorite sport. breaking news just in. a federal appeals court giving texas a week to use that controversial immigration law to arrest and jail undocumented immigrants. nbc's julia ainsley is following

this for us. what do we know? >> reporter: this law was supposed to take effect this week, chris, but right now -- or earlier last week, rather. a western district court said that it could not take effect. in other words, it should not be up to local and state law enforcement in the state of texas to stop anyone they suspect might have recently illegally crossed the border, that that really should be up to the federal government. just today we're learning that the fifth circuit court of appeals has now sided with texas, with governor greg abbott's administration. they're taking a victory lap on this, but it's a very temporary stay. in fact, it should only last until about march 9th. and this is typical, chris. we've seen over and over again when texas does something on immigration that the biden administration wants to challenge, whether it be razor wires or buoys or in this case give their police the ability to stop anyone they suspect might be migrants, the biden administration sues, the lower courts agree with the biden zrijs, at least on a short-term basis, the fifth circuit

reverses that, sides with abbott, and then it's ultimately up to the supreme court or for one of these lower courts to have the time to actually hear oral arguments and rule on the merits. but it very -- very well could be that this is something that goes all the way to the supreme court and will be up to the supreme court to decide whether or not federal immigration law can actually be enforced by state and local police and if they do decide that, chris, you can imagine that will have a nationwide ramifications. >> julia ainsley, thank you for that. two days and now two times that vice president kamala harris has taken the lead on a notably tougher administration push for israel to agree to a ceasefire in gaza. this afternoon she'll be meeting with israeli war cabinet member benny gantz. prime minister benjamin netanyahu's main political rival. just yesterday harris called for an immediate ceasefire, citing the humanitarian catastrophe in gaza. president biden's support for israel continues to be a drag on

his re-election efforts. he is now trailing former president trump in a series of new polls both nationally and in battleground states. nbc's aaron gilchrist is reporting from washington, d.c. back with us former republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. also with us cornel belcher, democratic pollster at brilliant corners research and an msnbc political analyst. good to have all of you here. aaron, harris is about to meet with gantz at the white house. it's an invitation netanyahu has not gotten. is this signaling a shift from the administration strategically and intentionally, especially after the message michigan democrats sent last week? >> chris, i think the administration would say that the message that we heard from the vice president, the meeting that we're seeing today is consistent with what the administration has been trying to do over the last several weeks and months in particular. we know that this meeting with the vice president is set to happen somewhere in the 3:00 hour between vice president harris and benny gantz of the war cabinet in israel.

and the vice president as we understand it from a white house official intends to sate things we've heard before, that the administration does support israel in its fight against hamas but that there's an expectation from the u.s. that israel will do more to reduce the number of civilian casualties, to make sure that the mechanisms are being pulled correctly to make sure a hostage deal gets into place so there can be then a ceasefire. and of course to make sure that more aid flows into gaza, all of gaza, faster and in a much bigger sense. i want you to hear a little bit of what the vice president had to say 24 hours ago. 24 hours before this meeting with benny gantz on the ground in alabama during a speech yesterday. listen. >> the israeli government must do more to significantly increase the flow of aid. no excuses. there must be an immediate ceasefire. for at least the next six weeks.

which is what is currently on the table. >> and so a white house official tells us that call for an immediate ceasefire of at least six weeks is something the administration has really been pushing for over the last self-days and last couple of weeks in particular and the vice president's tone as we all noted was something that seemed more assertive and aggressive than perhaps we'd heard from her before in the past in formal remarks but were completely consistent with the messaging from president biden. it is something the vice president will say this afternoon to benny gantz and as we understand it when he meets with the national security adviser jake sullivan also this afternoon it is something he will hear from mr. sullivan as well, chris. >> and congressman, as we said, benny gantz going to a place where frankly benjamin netanyahu has not been invited. i wonder what you make of this profile of kamala harris. could it be some kind of trial balloon on a little more assertive stance? is it building up harris at a time when it's clear concerns over biden's age and ability to

serve are growing? how do you read the administration and in particular kamala harris coming out to the front on this issue where she has been largely in some other realms notably abortion and reproductive rights? >> well, it seems to me this is a little bit of a shot across the bow of bibi netanyahu. that seems to be the matter of -- it's quite clear that the administration is unhappy with netanyahu and maybe this is a little bit of a shot at him by bringing benny gantz in. a bit of a slight. it also appears to me that particularly since the michigan primary and so many democrats choosing not to vote for joe biden it feels like domestic political considerations within the democratic party in particular are maybe driving this administration to this call for an immediate ceasefire, at least for six weeks. that's what it feels like. they're feeling a lot of pressure that dearborn, michigan

may be directing the middle east policy, at least the policy in gaza for this administration. i could be wrong, but that's what it sure feels like. >> we see kamala harris now, by the way, she's speaking to a group of firefighters. that was a previously unannounced visit she's making there. look, cornell, i want to look at the polls, then, overall. we've had four of them just in the last several days. the "wall street journal" describes the democrats by saying, and i'm quoting, the bedwetter caucus is back. look, on the other hand, biden is down in every poll and somewhere around a quarter of americans or fewer depending on the polls think the country is moving in the right direction, which means the vast majority think it's headed in the wrong direction. would democrats be wise to panic at least a little bit? >> look -- well, no. that's an absurd sort of thought. the -- >> hold on. if i can interrupt you, she's speaking about gaza right now.

let's listen. >> i have been aligned and consistent from the very beginning. israel has a right to defend itself. far too many palestinian civilians, innocent civilians have been killed. we need to get more aid in. we need to get the hostages out. and that remains our position. and i will tell you that it is important that we all understand that we're in a window of time right now where we can actually get a hostage deal done. we all want this conflict to end as soon as possible, and how it does matters. >> we saw last week in michigan -- >> so she had just finished that speech we saw tape of. those are her live comments. again clearly a recognition, cornel, by this white house they have got to be out there a lot on this. we see it reflected in the polls. we see it reflected with young people. we see what happened in

michigan. but let me go back to you on what you read in these four polls. >> first of all, let's break down some context here. one, it's not like -- you know, the secretary of state has been back and forth in the middle east now for several months and lord knows diplomatic corridors working their fingers to the bone trying to get a ceasefire. it's not like a ceasefire is something new. they've actually been working at that very, very hard. and the idea that this is some sort of new thing just -- >> but cornell, it's not working. you're the pollster. correct me. >> let me finish. it's not working but -- it's not working but -- >> i'm saying whatever messaging they're giving is not enough for a lot of democrats. >> there's no silver bullet that says we're going to solve this problem. but in the real world of real politics the diplomatic piece has to actually work. and that's what they've been working at. right? so they've been working at trying to bring both sides together, to bring about a ceasefire, and from all accounts they're making headway.

right? they're making headway. on the idea that this is being driven by michigan, look, i worked for a guy who 11% of people voted uncommitted in michigan on the way in 2012 to him winning michigan. is this an issue for a lot of democratic voters? absolutely. they want a ceasefire. but it's not like this administration has been working towards a ceasefire. and what we're also missing from the other piece of this is quite frankly as opposed to talking about the polls i would actually like to talk about what the differences are between the two candidates so people can make an informed choice. because if you look at where donald trump is with netanyahu and calls -- and the palestinians, literally the man who's calling for a ban on muslims, i would actually like for us to break down where they are so people make an informed opinion. it's also interesting that we didn't put the quinnipiac poll out there today and the quinnipiac poll shows that biden is actually ahead. but there's too much polling, not enough policy talk.

>> let me ask you about one particular thing if i can, cornell, because that is age and on that the polls have been very consistent, this concern about president biden's age. but donald trump had a number of gaffes while campaigning this weekend. i'm going to play just a couple of them. >> putin, you know, has so little respect for obama that he's starting to throw around the nuclear word. you heard that. nuclear. >> did you just see maduro, venezwer -- it's unbelievable. >> oil exploration and production in the united states. >> the biden border will -- well, you know this. right? even argentina, they went maga. you know argentina. great guy. >> we will expel the warmongers. >> we are a nation that just recently heard that saudi arabia and russia will re be do -- ah. >> among other things, cornell, once again confusing barack obama and joe biden.

but here's the numbers. 42% of voters say donald trump is too old to be effective compared to 73% who say biden is too old. why is there such a difference? public perception, do you think? >> i don't know why there's a difference in public perception. but i will say this because both of these men are old and americans overwhelmingly want younger elected officials. you see this at presidential office, you see this at the congressional and senate side. but in the end the truth of the matter is i want to drive a ferrari. but when i go out to my driveway every day i don't have a ferrari sitting in it, so i can drive what i drive or get on the bus. so it's going to be a hard choice between these two candidates regardless of the age. i will also point out that a lot of democratic voters in the primary states we've had so far also think that joe biden is too old but yet when they have to make a choice they made a choice for joe biden. >> every time i go out into my non-existent driveway there is no car. but i do have the new york city

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"known for her grilling of corporate executives." with "deep policy knowledge." katie porter's housing plan has "bipartisan-friendly ideas to bring homebuilding costs down." and the chronicle praises "her ideas to end soft corruption in politics." let's shake up the senate. with democrat katie porter. i'm katie porter and i approve this message. this election is about who shares your values. with democrat katie porter. let me share mine. i'm the only candidate with a record of taking on maga republicans, and winning. when they overturned roe, i secured abortion rights in our state constitution. when trump attacked our lgbtq and asian neighbors, i strengthened our hate crime laws. i fought for all of us struggling to keep up with the rising cost of living. i'm evan low, and i approve this message for all of our shared values. there are critical races

tomorrow beyond the presidential primaries in 16 super tuesday states around the country. among the slew of crucial down ballot races, key congressional races and governorships at stake. that's especially true in north carolina, which has five open house seats that lean republican as well as arguably the biggest governor's race this year. just this weekend donald trump endorsed the state's outspoken and controversial lieutenant governor, mark robinson, whom he called martin luther king on steroids. nbc's shaquille brewster is on the ground in north carolina. shaq, republicans are trying to claim the governor's mansion for the first time since 2016. tell us a little more about how donald trump is inserting himself into that race. >> reporter: yeah, well, you're really hearing trump on the campaign trail instead of focus on nikki haley and the primary ballot he's dealing with now he's looking ahead to the general election and the down ballot races. trump was here in -- well, in the greensboro area just on saturday and instead of focusing

on nikki haley you heard him weigh into the governor's race. the north carolina governor's race is expected to be one of the most competitive races once we get to november. and you heard former president trump throw his support behind the current lieutenant governor, mark robinson. now, you mentioned, he is a controversial figure. he's had to clarify remarks that he'd made that have been called antisemitic, that have been called sexist, that have been called anti-lgbt against the lgbtq community. and on stage you heard mark robinson tout that outspokenness that he's known for. but i want you to listen to a little bit of what we heard from him and how donald trump referred to him after giving him his endorsement. >> now is not the time for this party to have weaklings who are unwilling to stand up and face the horde. now is the time for warriors, people who are willing to stand up, stand up and fight! >> this is about observing the

freedoms that jesus christ has given us. >> this is martin luther king on steroids. you are outstanding. and you're going to be the next governor. >> now, in addition to commenting on the gubernatorial primary you also saw trump appear with some of those legislative and congressional primary candidates. north carolina's another state that could help determine control over the congress once we get to next year in addition to those five republican-leaning seats that are now open thanks to some new legislative maps. there's one really competitive -- a race that's supposed to be incredibly competitive congressional battle that you'll see both sides really invest heavily on. it's just an example of how you're seeing donald trump try to brush over this primary battle and look at some of those down-ballot races as he looks ahead to the general election. >> shaquille brewster, thank you so much. and joining me here is the person tasked with helping democrats win not only those five seats in north carolina but return the house of

representatives back to the democrats. congresswoman susan del bene is chairwoman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. it's good to have you here in studio. i think the political report has 21 races that they rank genuinely as tossups. tell us about the strategy. do you have enough money? and what do you think is realistic for the democrats here? realistic. >> well, first, we just won a race in new york. new york 3. so we only need four more seats to take the majority. so this is -- the republicans have a tiny majority, and we just put a dent in it just a couple weeks ago. so the american people are with us. voters have been turning out in record numbers in special election after special election. in fact, in new york 3 there was a 15-point swing from the november 2022 election to what we saw in the special election -- >> let me play devil's advocate. you had somebody who was kicked out of congress on the other side and people were exhausted

by it. not a lot of people seem as exhausted in some of these places, let's take north carolina, for example, by donald trump and what, you know, nikki haley says is constant exhaustion. so i wonder what your key messaging is going to be. for example, the memo you guys put out this morning talked about attacking vulnerable house republicans for being, quote, all talk no action on ivf and promising to make house republicans' blatant disrespect for women and families a defining campaign issue. how big could this be, and how much has this ivf ruling supercharged some of the messaging? >> it's a big, big issue. since november of 2022 people have turned out to stand up for their rights, for their freedoms and our democracy. and we've seen in election after election whether it was kansas or wisconsin or virginia or ohio or kentucky or even in new york,

over and over strong performance, overperformance on the democratic side compared to november 2022 because people are standing up for their rights and their freedoms. and so we have 17 districts across the country president biden won in 2020 that republicans are in right now. we have another 14 districts that republicans are in that trump won by a tiny margin where folks are outraged at the extremism of the republican party. house republicans have been taken over by the most extreme parts of their party and are incapable of governing. and when we look at ivf, this is just an extension of where we've been. they want a national abortion ban. now the alabama supreme court kind of did what a lot of republican house members have wanted to do. they supported legislation called the life at conception act, which was similar to what the alabama court decided. and now all of these republicans

are trying to come out saying they support ivf but none of them are willing to support legislation to actually do that. they just have been supporting these kind of statements but not actual legal policy that would put in place strong protections for ivf. so they want a national abortion ban. this impacts contraception, ivf, so many other things. again, our rights are at risk and people are going to stand up, voters are going to stand up for their rights. >> when you get questions, because there are messaging questions all candidates have, particularly some of the younger or first-time candidates, right? for congress. about donald trump's legal problems. and i'm thinking today about the breaking news, the supreme court decision that said donald trump will be on the state ballots. first, what's your reaction to that? but what is the official recommendation, training for some of these congressional candidates about all of these legal issues that are facing donald trump right now and that surely they get asked about on the campaign trail?

>> well, people want to know that they're going to have a representative who's going to put the people over politics, and they want to know that they're going to have someone who's going to tackle the issues they see in their communities. number one is having great candidates across the country who are addressing the issues that they hear in their communities, who are addressing them head on and talking about what they would do to actually provide solutions. you have republicans -- >> you don't see any advantage to pointing out what's happening with donald trump and the time and the focus that he has to spend on these cases? >> we are going to continue to highlight the the huge contrast we see between extreme maga republicans and folks who want to govern, and democrats want to govern, but just look at the house. they basically put policy in place based on what donald trump says or don't put policy in place. so this is about having folks who are going to stand up. who are going to actually vote for solutions for the american people, and we need strong

leadership. right now, we are going to head into this week and whistleblower -- we're still looking at another shut down if things don't move. speaker vote after speaker vote, brink of a default, brink of shutdown, they are incapable of governing. people want to see governance work. and 7 out of 10 voters across the country said republicans have the wrong priorities. we're giving them candidates, we're going to stand up, work hard, and i think we're going to continue to see strong success this november. >> representative susan dell ben na. you have a few things to get to, so we thank you for taking the time to stop in and talk to us. super tuesday could act as the general election for california's senate seat. voters in a nonpartisan primary will narrow down the race to two candidates. will the general election be

between adam schiff, katie porter or barbara lee or will steve garvey, who has been surging in the polls finish in the top two and then almost certainly assure the winner of the runoff will be the new senator. nbc's jacob soboroff is with congresswoman katie porter at her cam feign headquarters in irvine, california, with an exclusive interview. i don't need to tell you or congresswoman porter as primaries go, this one is incredibly high stakes. >> reporter: this is a very high stakes election, and congresswoman porter was nice enough to let us in her private campaign office. we're grateful for that. before i talk about the campaign, i want to talk about the news of the day, the supreme court ruling that allows president trump to stay on the ballot. i was moved by your story, talking about january 6th and being with representative ocasio-cortez sheltering in place. together, i wonder, given your experience what your reaction to the news of the day is. >> i think this is going to weaken trust in the court. this is further politicizing the

court. you know, the supreme court is corrupt, and that's how most americans feel and understand it. and this decision is going to further drive that the court is being controlled by a handful of ultra wealthy, very conservative folks, and so, look, the constitution is not a political instrument. it's an instrument of democracy writ large and makes clear that president trump is not eligible to be on the ballot. >> you're a familiar face to our audience, you're also very popular here in california as are your two opponents on the democratic side, representative schiff and lee. what differentiates you? >> i have been only been in congress for five years, and what i've shown is i do things differently. i think we can make washington work better for californians, ordinary families, single moms, students, this is a race about the future. not about the fast. the fact that i have never taken

corporate pac money, refuse money for lobbyists. i'm living our values, little d, democratic values about elections and i think that matters. >> let's talk about big d democrats, you have called representative schiff and his campaign strategy brazenly cynical, and when we talk about why that is, people who are watching from across the country might not understand in california we have the top two primary system. if two democrats get the top two votes they go to the runoff. representative schiff has spent millions elevated steve garvey. are these dirty tricks by adam schiff, is that what you're saying? >> this weakens confidence in democracy. people who have donated to folks including me or adam schiff, they want us to use that money to talk about what we're going to do, what's at stake this in election. representative schiff has spent 10, $15 million putting steve garvey on tv, and the problem with that is having a democrat, republican race, steve garvey, i

call it the schiff gift to gop turnout, republican turnout. we're already seeing that in this election, that having steve garvey on the ballot will turn out republicans. that's a big deal down ballot and winning back the house of representatives. having a strong democratic race with two democrats running through november will give us a chance to talk about the issues that matter to california and how we can change how politics work. >> let's talk about one of the big issues here. the president went down to the border, called on you in congress and your colleagues to pass this immigration proposal, that bill. you're against it, so is steve garvey on the republican side. what don't you like about it? >> i don't think it addresses the fundamental issue, how do we have an immigration system that makes the economy stronger. it's driven by a crisis mentality. we're seeing challenges at the border, migration challenges around the world. the truth is we need immigrants coming to this country, as work

force, next generation of doctors, farm workers, our next generation of child care providers. and so i think the fact that the bill was written by three people in closed doors is really what's wrong with washington, rather than having an open debate on the house floor and getting to something that has buy-in from all of the representatives who can then go back home and explain to their constituents why we're taking that approach before. >> reporter: california slow counts votes. it could be 30 days before the results of the election are determined. if this is close between you and steve garvey and adam schiff or representative lee, what's your message to people across the country in california who might say i want an answer tomorrow night about who's going to win the senate race. >> we want democracy to do the work. each time i have run, i wait for the ballots to be counted. the fact that we have people who can mail in their ballots, drop off in person through 8:00 p.m.

tomorrow, it takes time to count those. that's what we should want. i'm used to having to wait for the race to be called in my favor. >> thank you very much. patience is a virtue. >> steve kornacki never sleeps anybody. jacob soboroff, congressman porter, thank you both, appreciate it. ex-trump cfo allen weisselberg pleading guilty for a second time. what he's coping to and what it could mean for trump's pending hush money trial. stay close. more "chris jansing reports" right after this. ports" right after this yep, tough day at work, nice cruise will sort you right out. when i'm riding, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity. well, you shouldn't ignore that. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills, i just hop on the bike, man. oh, come on, man, you got to pay your bills. you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number-one motorcycle insurer. well, you definitely do. those things aren't related, so... ah, yee! oh, that is a vibrating pain.

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♪♪ and we are back with another hour of "chris jansing reports." we have breaking news. the supreme court siding with donald trump. inside the unanimous decision and why it avoided one big question. did the former president engage in an insurrection. plus, how trump is reacting to the historic decision.