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good to be with you. i'm katy tur in for chris jansing. former president trump has just four days to come up with enough money for his new york bond. if he can't turn to his friends or sell any of his property, will he look overseas for help? plus, the latest campaign fundraising numbers are out, and they have the biden campaign poking fun at the former president. we're going to break down the big divide in the numbers. and the u.s. is now seeking an immediate cease fire in gaza.
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what we know about secretary antony blinken's meetings today. and was baseball's biggest star swindled by his own interpreter? the bizarre, truly bizarre gambling scandal that broke around shohei ohtani. let us start with donald trump's financial state. dasha burns is with me from palm beach, florida. dasha, it's a whole lot of money, not a lot of time left. what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, the clock is ticking, and the former president is growing ever more frustrated, he's lashing out once again today on social media saying this is crazy, saying he would have to sell off these assets potentially, and would not be able to get them back if he were to win on appeal. we know from our colleagues' reporting that there is some gaming out happening right now, internally, trying to figure out, hey, do we hit up some high dollar donors, which according to one source is one way they're
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trying to figure out how to get this cash. they're also trying to figure out how to install this, how to pause this. at the same time, we have heard from attorney alina habba just recently on some other potential or not potential options. take a listen. >> is there any effort on the part of your team to secure this money through another country, saudi arabia or russia as joy behar seems to think? >> there's rules and regulations public. i can't speak about strategy that requires certain things, and we have to follow those rules. >> reporter: at the same time, katy, there is some thinking within the campaign that the image of the attorney general seizing assets from the former president, just the optics of all of that could potentially be rocket fuel for his campaign. could allow him to continue to point the finger at an unjust system and would simply look bad for those prosecuting him, so those are the different
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calculations right now. there's a legal, financial and political of it all, katy. >> i wonder about the politics of it all, if they would try to turn the seizure of assets to a political campaign, calling it a witch hunt. thank you. the biden campaign is gloating about their new fundraising numbers. nbc's gabe gutierrez is at the white house. so what are they, gabe? >> hi there, katy, good afternoon. the biden campaign is saying that it's amassed $155 million, cash on hand for this campaign and raised $53 million last month. now, this all comes as the biden campaign far outpacing donald trump in fundraising so far. and this all comes as this 2024 campaign ramps up. you see right there, the headlines. while donald trump has raised more than $20 million in february, the biden campaign, as i said, has amassed much more
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than that. and the president, the biden campaign responding and saying if donald trump put up these kinds of numbers on the apprentice, he'd fired himself. and also, president biden joking about all of this at a dallas campaign fundraiser yesterday saying just the other day, the other guy came to me and said, mr. president, i need your help, i'm being crushed with debt. i'm completely wiped out, and i had to say, donald, i can't help you. this comes as this 2024 campaign ramps up and president biden and his team gloating in some ways in how much they have been able to raise over the former president, especially as the former president faces these legal battles. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. he has been by his side for years, nbc's liz kreutz has been following that story for us, liz. >> reporter: hey there, this has
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shocked baseball fans. shohei ohtani's interpreter is fired. after a report in the l.a. times surfaced that he used ohtani's money, $4.5 million to place illegal sports bets. accused of sending the money to an illegal bookmaker in california where sports betting is illegal. where things get confusing, he did an interview with espn where he said ohtani knowingly paid the bookkeeper himself in order to help his friend, the interpreter pay off his gambling debts. he said ohtani had zero involvement in the betting. then later, a spokesperson for misuhara changed that account, disavowed it, and said that's not what happened and told espn that ohtani's attorneys would reach out with a statement. ohtani's attorneys saying he had no knowledge of the debts, that he had not made the payments and
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that he was the victim of massive theft. now, nbc news has not independently verified the details of the espn or "l.a. times" reports. this has raised a lot of questions, many of which we don't have answers to. we continue to dig into all of that. a very big story surrounding the biggest name in the mlb. back to you. >> liz kreutz, thank you very much. in a major diplomatic shift, the u.s. has a draft resolution calling for an immediate cease fire in gaza meagan fitzgerald joins us now. why has the u.s. not drafted their own resolution with the language they prefer? it seems like now is the moment. what do we know? >> reporter: you're absolutely right. what we know is secretary blinken gave an interview to a saudi-run news agency, where he says he hopes other countries will support the u.s. resolution. the u.s. has upset a lot of countries after vetoing security
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council resolutions several times since the war began, the most recent of course was just last month. this is significant, as you hinted at. i mean, this is the first time that the u.s. is calling for an immediate and sustained cease fire, as opposed to just a temporary cease fire. and, in fact, nbc news has obtained the final text of the resolution which calls for an immediate and sustained cease fire to protect civilians on all sides, allow for the delivery of humanitarian aid and supports ongoing international diplomatic efforts to secure a cease fire in exchange for the remaining hostages. next step is for the u.n. security council to vote. it's important to note that secretary blinken is in cairo. he met with president cc, the egyptian foreign minister, and a large group of ministers and diplomats before he heads to israel tomorrow, and israel prime minister, benjamin netanyahu approved an israeli delegation to meet with the head of the cia, william burns, along
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with the head of egyptian intelligence to push for the release of these hostages, so a lot of moving parts here, that are all focused oncoming to some sort of a deal. >> thank you very much. we're going to dip into the presser with antony blinken in a few minutes, but coming up in 60 seconds, what about declaring bankruptcy. donald trump has done it before. why won't he do it now? wanna know how i get this glow?! i get ready with new olay indulgent moisture body wash. it smells amazing and gives my skin over the top moisture! from dull to visibly glowing in 14 days! ♪♪ see the difference with olay. sorry, party is cancelled. waiting on the cable internet guy. ♪ first, i had cable. ♪ ♪ but those cords weren't me. ♪ ♪ so he switched to t-mobile. ♪ ♪ home internet, with 5g. ♪ ♪ what a feeling! ♪
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in the 2000s, again on his hotels and casinos, along with trump entertainment resorts. why wouldn't he do it more. brendan buck is a former aide to speakers paul ryan and john boehner and msnbc political analyst, and catherine christian, an msnbc analyst. i want to start with you. would filing bankruptcy get him out of this? >> legally and practically, it would help. then the bankruptcy court takes over. that's why rudy giuliani did it. clearly, politically, it hurts his brand, which is why i'm assuming he's not going to do it. >> when he talked about his past bankruptcies, they were a big talking point during the 2016 campaign. they came up in the debates. hillary clinton said you filed for bankruptcy. you're not a good businessman. he spun that and he said, actually, that proves i was a good businessman because i knew how to use the bankruptcy system to my advantage. he could try to do that again now. why would he not? >> obviously the situation is
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very different. you just had a court find that he admitted fraud, and that is obviously counter to the story that, you know, he brought himself up by his boot straps and created a billion dollars. as you discussed, winning is value to donald trump's brand and theme, and it always has been. and i've honestly never understood why people didn't try to take that on a little more. it is clear to me that he's a conman and not a winner. you know that donald trump is going to try to play the victim here, and playing victim has worked quite a bit for him. and it is a pretty fundamental strategy of politics to try to make someone's strength a weakness. so i think the biden campaign would be smart to take this on clearly and point out the fact that he was found liable of fraud in this case, and try to make clear that this is not a person who is a success story but instead someone who's very similar to the type of elites he rails against, that are using
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loopholes and breaking the rules for their own benefit against ordinary people. >> i want to ask about the politics of what it would mean for the trump team to have the attorney general start seizing assets. i first want to get a question to you, catherine on the actual seizure itself, if it happens. bloomberg is reporting that the state has registered $454 million in judgment, the judgment in westchester county. that's home to donald trump's golf course in seven springs estate. is it meaningful that they've filed that there, according to bloomberg? >> it's meaningful because in new york, under new york law, where the property is that's where you file the judgment, register the judgment. they clearly, the attorney general is looking at those properties. they don't have to do it in manhattan because that's where the trial took place, the 40 wall street and other properties here. but for the west chester, they had to register that judgment there. so clearly that's one of the properties they're looking at. >> so if she's going to start seizing assets, does she go for properties first?
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is that the natural first step? >> you could do both simultaneously. you can start trying to freeze financial accounts if there are any, and there's money there, and you also simultaneously try to seize the real property. >> brendan, i want to ask you quickly, politically, if they start seizing assets, does that counter intuitively help him politically? >> he's obviously been able to use some of these things to his advantage in the past, but, you know, i'm picturing, you know, if some type of action is taking place, and we have video of people coming in and seizing a building, you know, that could be pretty powerful, i think. donald trump's brand is wrapped up in being a billionaire. if it becomes clear he's no longer a billionaire, i think if not else, he would probably have a tough time with that. we may see a little more unhinged donald trump. >> brendan, catherine, thank you very much. we're going to dip into this. secretary of state antony blinken news conference with the foreign minister of cairo. they're talking about a hostage
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deal and a cease fire. let's take a listen. >> second, there's an agreement as you heard on the urgent need to surge and sustain humanitarian assistance for the people of gaza. children should not be dying of malnutrition in gaza or anywhere else for that matter. 100%, 100% of the population of gaza is experiencing severe levels of acute food insecurity. we cannot, we must not allow that to continue. now, the cease fire that we're working on would be the best, most immediate way to enable us to surge humanitarian assistance but it's not the only way. regardless, we have to be doing that. we've seen some improvement over the last couple of weeks in getting humanitarian assistance to palestinians, but it's not enough. and as i said, we need to really surge and sustain the assistance across land, across sea, and
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across air. we have senior officials meeting today in cypress to coordinate the international efforts on the maritime corridor, and that includes support for the u.s. military mission to construct a pier, a temporary pier as an additional channel for aid. but as i said before, and i want to emphasize, this maritime corridor, and this pier is a complement to, not a substitute for getting assistance to people who need it, and in particular, the land crossings are the most critical means of getting aid to those in need. as we agreed today, all of the ministers that we would get our experts together in the coming days to identify the urgent, practical and concrete steps that can and should be taken to increase the flow of assistance. israel needs to do more. tomorrow i'll be talking to our partners about how to coordinate our efforts. as the foreign minister
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mentioned as well, we also discussed rafah. we all share concerns. there are more than a million people in rafah, many of whom were displaced from other parts of gaza. a major ground operation there would mean for civilian deaths. it would worsen the humanitarian crisis. there is a better way to deal with the threat, the ongoing threat posed by hamas. third, we discussed and agreed on the need for long-term peace and security. this discussion very much consistent with the principles that i laid out in tokyo many months ago, that gaza cannot be used as a platform for terrorism. there can be no displacement of its population. there can be no reoccupation by israel. and we also agreed that this requires a path to two states with real security guarantees for israel. in turn, this also requires real
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reform of the palestinian authority, and we have seen some initial steps in that direction. more is needed. revitalizing the p.a. with a better, more representative government, including palestinians from gaza is critical to achieving the vision of a gaza unified with the west bank under palestinian authority. if and as the palestinian authority pursues reform, i'm also convinced that the region will strongly support it. the regional integration is one of the building blocks of lasting peace and lasting security. and that includes normalization for israel with its neighbors. yesterday i had an opportunity to meet, again, with saudi crown prince mohammed bin salmon, as well as with the foreign minister, and we had a very good discussion about the work that we have been doing for many months now on normalization, and that work is moving forward. we're continuing to make good
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progress. i believe we can reach an agreement, which would present a historic opportunity for two nations but also for the renal -- region as a whole. so i think if you look back on these past couple of months, since i was here in january, we have been working very closely together with our arab partners on all of these post conflict pieces. there's not only more consensus on the priorities, cease fire, release of hostages, humanitarian assistance, and a clear pathway and plan for the future. i think there's increasingly consensus on the steps needed to achieve that. these are difficult days, but that only reinforces our determination to get to better days. thank you. >> so antony blinken there, the secretary of state saying that,
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again, they are very concerned about what might happen in rafah if the israelis do end up bombarding and going in. they have mentioned over and over again, there are so many civilians there, so many gazans who have been displaced. they are very concerned about what might happen to them. they think that there is a better way, obviously, this administration has invited benjamin netanyahu to send a team to sue washington to try to figure out a better plan going forward. they do agree with the rooting out of hamas. they don't think hamas can be viable any longer in gaza. they don't see that as a path forward. he was also there talking about strengthening the palestinian authority and adding gazans to that authority. some in the region might say that's a bit of a pipe dream. let's bring in nbc's senior white house correspondent gabe gutierrez. gabe, what else stood out to you? >> reporter: certainly some of the most pointed language we have heard so far from secretary of state blinken with regards to
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the israel/hamas war. something else that stood out to me, children should not be dying of malnutrition in gaza. now, it seems obvious where we are at this point. katy, if you remember in the early weeks of the war, the biden administration took great pains to say it did not want to tell israel what to do regarding its military operation in gaza, but of course we have seen that shift dramatically in the last few weeks. just a few days ago, national security adviser jake sullivan saying it would be a mistake for israel to go into rafah, and right here, we heard it again from secretary of state blinken. and this all comes as the u.s. is submitting this resolution, calling for a sustained cease fire, an immediate cease fire. that is different language than what the u.s. has said before with regards to a temporary cease fire. of course that resolution is still tied to the release of hostages, but as you heard from the secretary of state, katy, he also had some sharp words when it comes to any potential
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military operation from israel into rafah saying that there has to be a better way to deal with hamas. >> gabe, what do we know about the israelis sending over a group of people to washington to try and work out a better way forward? is there any timetable for that? >> reporter: well, that's supposed to happen, as we understand it, soon, katy, and we also hear that house speaker mike johnson of course here in washington says that he plans to invite israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu potentially to speak in front of a joint session of congress, but this is all -- this all comes as this growing friction between the biden administration and the netanyahu government in israel. and you're hearing it just there from those most pointed comments of secretary blinken. >> talking about netanyahu going around, president biden speaking directly to congress. he has done that before at the republicans' invitation, and there are those out there, including the former head of the council of foreign relations,
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richard haass, who have been urging biden and the administration to do the same to bibi netanyahu, to go around him and speak directly to the knesset or give a speech in israel about the path forward. we're listening to questions right now for the foreign minister and secretary of state antony blinken. if any news is made, we will bring it to you. gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. and still ahead, what one senator found on his voice mail after the house passed a ban on tiktok. we have the audio. don't go anywhere. cture of us? (tony) oh, no problem. (man) thanks. (tony) yes, problem. you need verizon. trade-in that old thing and get a new iphone 15 pro with tons of storage. so you can take all the pics! so many selfies. a preposterous amount of pano! that means panoramic. and as many portraits of me as your heart desires. (woman) how about none? (boy) none. (man) yea none feels right. (vo) trade-in any iphone in any condition and get a new iphone 15 pro and an ipad and apple watch se all on us. only on verizon. >> tech: at safelite, we'll take care of fixing your windshield.
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senators have had a day to think about the warning the intelligence community gave them on tiktok in a classified briefing yesterday after which senator blumenthal called tiktok a gun aimed at americans' heads and convinced the warning wasn't, quote, cooked up. so how is that knowledge sitting today? and will it move the senate closer to voting on the house ban? nbc's ali vitali is following this for us. so you got some pretty strong responses out of that meeting yesterday, senators that were clearly convinced there's a major problem with tiktok. i know we talk about a ban, but it really is a forced divestment, forces tiktok to sell it to an american company. so what might happen in the senate? >> reporter: look, that's a really important distinction that you're making, katy, and it's one that senators made in conversations i was having with
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them yesterday as we were talking about what the legislative path forward would be, because of course their central problem with the social media platform isn't the platform itself, it's the way in which the chinese-based company that owns it could potentially have its data be shared and taken by the chinese government. of course that's what makes it a national security threat. that being said, one senator, senator thom tillis, said people have been calling his office, which of course voters and constituents should and can do, but not when the messages sound like this. listen to this. it's pretty visceral and stark. watch. >> okay. listen, if you ban tiktok, i will find you and shoot you. >> reporter: and, look, we have seen a rise in threats and scary voice mails like these, calls to offices rise over the course of the last several years. we track the threat rate through the capitol police that keeps track of what these look like. we have seen an increase in recent years, but it's important
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for us to, a, make the point that it's not a ban on tiktok, but, but, what senator tillis is saying in response to putting out this voice mail, he tweeted, this is a voice mail my office received last night. tiktok's misinformation campaign is pushing people to call members of congress, and congresses like this that communicate threats against election feels could be committing a federal crime. he punctuated that tweet by saying great work, tiktok. in terms of what goes forward in terms of legislation, katy, that's when the time line becomes murky. i don't think we're talking about a matter of days and weeks, i think we're probably talking about a matter of months. but certainly it's something constituents are fired up about and calling their lawmakers about. should not be doing it like this. >> that person might have thought it was a joke. the reality is when you call someone and leave a threatening message with threats of violence, especially if they're federal officials, you can get
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into a lot of trouble. ali vitali, thank you very much. and someone could be in pretty big trouble, speaking of trouble across the bond. british media is now reporting three staffers at the london clinic where kate middleton had abdominal surgery may have tried to access her records. nbc's molly hunter has the latest. >> this morning, the allegations of a royal data breach growing. multiple uk news outlets, including the mirror which broke the story report three staff members at the london clinic where kate underwent surgery back in january could be investigated and potentially face disciplinary action for allegedly trying to access the princess's personal medical information. nbc news has not confirmed this reporting. >> i understand that there are three staff at the london clinic have been suspended on allegations that they accessed or tried to access the princess's private medical data. we don't know whether that was paper records or via a computer system. >> reporter: the uk government privacy watchdog confirmed to
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nbc news they received a breach report and are still assessing information but didn't share whether it included one or more allegations. >> i think we must remember at the center of the saga is a woman who has undergone a serious operation. >> reporter: kensington palace not confirming whether or not kate has been notified, referring all questions to the london clinic. in a statement, the hospital said in the case of any breach, all appropriate regulatory and disciplinary steps will be taken. adding there's no place at our hospital for those who intentionally breach the trust of patients or colleagues. the london clinic has been a discreet option for members of the royal family and celebrities flying under the radar, reportedly even jfk and liz taylor. the late queen elizabeth and prince philip both received treatment there as did king charles back in january. the two senior royals carrying
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the load continuing on in the face of the swirling headlines. prince william all smiles making a visit to the welsh guards near windsor, speaking with soldiers and focusing on physical and mental rehab, while queen camila is stepping in for the king. >> he sent me here with a copy of his speech. >> reporter: and referencing kate and william's youngest, known for his antics. molly hunter, nbc news. still ahead, what senator marco rubio could do next to donald trump? could they be standing together a whole lot come this summer? don't go anywhere. e. [♪♪] if you're only using facial moisturizer in the morning, did you know, the best time for skin renewal is at night? olay retinol24 renews millions of surface skin cells while you sleep. wake up to smoother, younger-looking skin with olay retinol24. this is juana's smile. ♪♪ and this is her john deere 1 series tractor.
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move over kari lake and tim scott, there's a new name floating to the top of donald trump's vp list. sources familiar tell nbc news florida senator marco rubio could be a favorite, meaning these guys, these two guys right here could actually be on a ticket together. >> donald is not going to make america great. he's going to make america orange. you know what they say about men with small hands, you can't trust them. >> look at those hands, are they small hands? and he referred to my hands. if they're small, something else must be smell. i guarantee you there's no
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problem. i guarantee you. don't worry about it little, marco. >> let's hear about it big donald. >> don't worry about it, little marco. >> i have gotten to know marco over a period of time, believe me, he is not a leader. >> that was a debate in detroit in 2016. i remember it well. joining us now is nbc's matt dixon, one of the reporters who broke that story, also back with me msnbc political analyst, brendan buck. i know you remember that well. you helped break the story. why marco rubio, what's he got to offer? >> i think the first historic nature of this. there's never been a president who considered a running mate who made hand size jokes. we're breaking new territory in politics. i think rubio is very much in fact running. i think it's important to kind of pump the brakes a second in the sense the list is very long. trump is considering a lot of people who we had direct conversations with top trump
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advisers. rubio is in the mix, and they indicated he's being talked to. i think it's very much a serious conversation. >> what has marco rubio said? >> marco rubio is first on the record comments about this is that he would be honored to do it but he said no one has directly reached out to him. there's obviously nuance in the comments. maybe no one has directly reached out to his personal cell phone. he has had a long running and loyal political team in orbit. i think probably folks have been approached, and you know, the idea has been brought up to them. whether or not it was directly to him is still up in the air. he said he would be honored to do it. >> i don't know. let's listen to the way he answered that question. we have it on video. let's listen. >> there's been some speculation that trump is considering you to be his vice president, what do you make of that? >> i think anybody who would be offered that should be honored. i have never spoken to anybody in the trump world about it. >> reporter: you've never had any conversations in the trump
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world about it? and offered this position would you accept it. >> anybody should consider it. that's why i'm in public service. if that changes i'll let you know. i've never talked to anybody. >> brendan, it's so different from the way marco rubio used to talk about trump, and i know it's been a long eight years, and things have changed. but i am still struck by the way they have done a clean 180 since. what do you make of marco rubio? >> i think it's a real statement of where the party is right now. this is clearly someone who maybe four years ago you would never think they would want to hitch themselves to donald trump but i think he, like all the rest of those people on that big long list realized that if there's a post trump party that they want to be a part of, it's not for a very long time from now. you might as well get on board,
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and set yourself up to be president yourself some day. if you're waiting for a new era that you want to become a new face. marco rubio probably would have imagined four or eight years ago, you're probably waiting three or four more cycles. and so he's not -- this isn't somebody who has been auditioning for it. he's, i think, there because he probably checks a lot of boxes and kind of comes out of the central casting that donald trump likes so much. >> what box is he checking? >> well, obviously the republican party has been trying to make a lot of end roads with hispanic voters. marco rubio has had an evolution on the issue of immigration. this is someone who in 2013 was pushing for a comprehensive immigration reform. used to have legislation legalizing dreamers, and has now come full circle around to the donald trump position, very opposed to any immigration reform. but he's younger-ish. he's more telegenic, he can
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communicate. >> matt, what about the money side of things, the rnc and donald trump have been outraised by president biden, the campaign, and the dnc. does marco rubio help with fundraising? >> yeah, the worst kept secret in american politics is the idea that donald trump and even senate candidates on the republican side are going to be out spent by democrats. a real problem for republicans. and marco rubio can help to a degree. the data point is the 2016 campaign, when he ran for reelection, he didn't get into the presidential race until june. he had a limited window and quickly raised $25 billion, and the florida senate race in the 2016 cycle was one of the most expensive in the country. he can add a little bit to what trump and the rnc are trying to do. he has a solid political machine and south florida is a target rich environment in the sense that there's a lot of wealthy people there. it has value add for a team that needs it. >> if you open up the senate
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seat, how likely is it for republicans to keep that seat, and they might say pretty likely in red florida, although i know the democrats are trying to make a push for one seat down there. brendan buck, thank you very much, matt dixon, thank you as well. there's a largely unknown political operative working behind the scenes to get donald trump reelected. her name is susie wiles, and would be one of the most powerful women in republican politics. >> reporter: when donald trump took the stage at his victory party, he thanked two staffers by name, susie, chris, incredible job. incredible job you're doing. i read an article yesterday that said this is one of the finest run campaigns that anybody has ever seen. >> reporter: susie is susie wiles, trump's enigmatic top aid who has never done a television interview about her role in the former president's campaign. chris is senior adviser, chris
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lacivita. >> she's not only the most interesting but the most powerful women in republican politics. >> reporter: wiles cut her teeth working for jack kemp. her first role for donald trump was as the cochair of his 2016 florida campaign, a state where she had become well known in political circles for engineering rick scott's razor thin 2010 victory in the governor's race. >> she's a good listener, she's humble. she doesn't say i know all the answers. >> reporter: how important do you think those qualities are in working with donald trump? >> i think they're pretty important. >> reporter: wiles next took over the struggling 2018 gubernatorial campaign of ron desantis for whom florida fire brand matt gaetz was a senior adviser. >> what do people get wrong about her? >> susie wiles is ruthlessly effective. she has the exterior of a kind grandmother, but she knows everything going on. >> reporter: desantis forced wiles out of his orbit in 2019,
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and by 2020, she was helping mr. trump win florida a second time. >> i stand before you to officially launch my campaign for a second term as president of the united states. >> reporter: as the de facto campaign manager of trump 2024, wiles has created a largely drama free campaign operation where the candidate creates the headlines for better or worse. >> one thing that susie doesn't do, she doesn't manage the candidate. she's going to allow trump to be trump, and she's not there to control him or stifle him. she's there to make sure that the energy created by president trump is reflected in an operationally competent campaign. >> reporter: about wiles' own political belief, sources say little. she's an environmentalist one offered and on the criticism that a long time establishment figure who once worked in the reagan white house and later ran john huntsman's presidential campaign is now leading donald trump's, friends of mine from the old days scratch their heads
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but i don't care, wiles told nbc news, i'm quite sure we are on a mission, and we're going to complete it. >> garrett haake, thank you very much. and attorney general merrick garland does not think he should have redacted anything more from special counsel's robert hur's report, when asked if he should have taken out the reference to biden's memory and mental state, the ag was unmoved. nbc's ken dilanian was there and joins now from washington. ken, what specifically was he asked? >> i first asked him to respond to criticism from anonymous white house officials that he was really the villain in this play, that he should have blocked that language from being in the report, and he answered by saying president biden hired him not to be the president's lawyer but to be a lawyer representing the american people, and he was sure, he said, that mr. biden still intended that. then i followed up, and i think we have that sound. take a listen. >> reporter: did you think that that was appropriate, the language that he used to characterize the president's mental state? >> look, i said from the very
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beginning that i would make public the report of all the special counsels appointed during a period of my service. the idea that an attorney general would edit or redact or censure the special counsel's explanation for why the special counsel reached the decision the special counsel did, that's absurd. >> it's also worth knowing that the senior career official in the justice department actually responded to the criticism from mr. biden's lawyers and said in his view, everything hur did was appropriate. he was explaining the charge, wasn't trying to attack the president. a lot of legal experts disagree with that, but the attorney general does appear to think it was fine. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. a man ambushed a prisoner transfer allowing a violent white supremacist to escape. now a man hunt for both men.
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there is a man hunt in idaho. police are looking for an inmate who escaped with the help of a gunman who ambushed officers during a hospital transfer. nbc's dana griffin is following this for us. dana, what happened? yeah, so this happened starting tuesday evening.
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investigators say the inmate, skylar meade caused injuries that forced them to take him to the hospital in a coordinated and brazen attack, after he was treated and released, an accomplice opened fire on two corrections officers, shooting two of them, a third officer injured during the cross fire. now two men are on the run. they have been on the run for more than 24 hours, and investigators say they are armed and considered dangerous. listen to what else authorities have said about these two men. >> we believe that this was a coordinated attack, an ambush on the department of corrections officers, and certainly a planned endeavor to free him from custody. they are dangerous. they are armed, and they have shown a propensity for violence. >> every investigative tool is pointed at trying to find out
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how this happened, and the apprehension of anybody who was involved. >> reporter: the concerning thing about all of this is investigators have no idea where these two may be or where they're even headed. they were last seen in a gray honda civic and they could be anywhere. i spoke with a former fbi investigator who says they likely ditched the car and they could have help because this inmate, according to investigators is part of a white supremacist prison gang and may have help on the outside, trying to flee from investigators. they could be anywhere. we are awaiting new details on the search, but the fbi is now involved, and again, investigator says if you see these men, do not approach them, but call 911. >> dana griffin, thank you very much. and that does it for us on this hour. but don't go anywhere because "katy tur reports" comes up right after the break. first, though, a special two-part series of the msnbc podcast, "prosecuting donald
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good to be with you, i'm katy tur. with four days left, where is donald trump going for his $464 million bond. it doesn't seem like he has the cash on hand. trump's save america pac spent more money on legal fees last month than it brought in. trump and the rnc are being outraised by the biden campaign and dnc. no megadonors have come to his rescue, despite multiple fundraisers. does he file for bankruptcy? his businesses have done it before six times in the 1990s and 2000s. does he mix

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