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a very divisive start that we can attempt and put him on to the path of the shortest modern speakership when a vote was forced to later oust him. using the rules and the strength of a handful of them had built against the larger wing of the republican house conference. it took many more days to get a replacement. republicans finally chose mike johnson. now we are about seven miles out into the election. five months into his short speakership and it is groundhog day for many republicans. they are doing it again. we don't know where it will go or how it will end. we are seeing more public threats against the speaker and more infighting, which shows the nation this is a party constantly worn with itself. in the sequel to this repetitive theme the rules this time will be plagued by the speaker who replaced him, mike

johnson. the role of hardliner willing to alienate most of congress previously played by matthew gates will now be played by rtg. a reboot you wanted this spring. republicans do not view what is happening now if you've heard about ntg challenging johnson, they know hardliners have actually weakened their speakership and normalize this kind of chaos for one party. again, the democrats have other problems, we cover them, they don't have this problem with narrow majorities. this is a republican party problem but maga hardliners have normalized. once you do that it is hard to undo, maybe you've noticed if you follow politics over the last couple of years. now a republican politician is explaining the way the hardliners are willing to capsize the conference again could actually potentially topple mike johnson's young

speakership. >> do you think he could lose his speakership over this, congressman? >> it is possible, i am not going to deny it. we have one or two people who are not team players. they would rather enjoy the limelight and social media. it is a very narrow majority and one or two people can make as a minority. >> it is a very narrow majority which is why one or two republicans can replay this movie for their team, to use the congressman's terminology. mike johnson knows how ugly things can change, because he rolled the last hard-driving into this job. now this is interesting, he is in the opposite argument to defend his position in a new fox interview that shows he does see the risk. >> how-tos's motion to vacate help win back the majority or a

bigger majority? >> i don't think it does. i think all of my other republican colleagues recognize this is a distraction from our mission, to save the republic. the only way we can do that is if we row the house majority, win the senate and the white house. we do not need defense in right now. >> no dissent. so i say this to you as we start the week together, america , meet the new mike johnson, anti-dissent, pro-unity republican who is quite a ways from the old mike johnson who was cultivating support from both very dissenting maga members who wrote that uprising of the power. these days johnson wants to tap in history. they all lived through it, he's not and i get per se. that will make them look really bananas. he tries to tap into history to inoculate himself against attacks of becoming and mccarthy, a new establishment, no dissent, mike. he's trying to use his dealings with the white house to so he is still a tough party,

grimacing and everything the president said. a recent new yorker noted johnson has survived thus far by convincing the heart-right action deep down he is one of them. i am a conservative hardliner he kept repeating it interviews. as he repeats that at some type of new age, maga yogi much of the actual hardliners are looking at the politics. they know they can use as leverage, especially if they do not care about the impact on the nation, governing or even their own republican party writer popularity going into a high-stakes election. republicans can only lose two both on partyline issues about drops to one when another republican leaser caucus in a few weeks. that is where the story tonight is not just about politics. it is also about democracy and what the people actually want

and said they want the recent elections. the whole reason republicans are weaker in the house is because so many voters oppose their agenda. we talk about the politics, the personalities, mtg and all of that so much we actually forget why this matters. while we learn who these people are and follow what they do. it is because they won elections, some of them. some of them have watched the country go against their party. the public opposes this current republican agenda, especially on women's rights and coddling trumps extremism, which is well documented. we all remember the republican pistol in the midterms. had the republicans simply generated the usual swing you get after a presidential race like that, most historical trends show they would have a 25 feet edge. none of this will be talking -- happening right now. yet this is what is

interesting, instead of responding to the public as another election looms, some of these republicans are driving into the kind of chaos and extreme positions and hijacking of what you might call collaborative governance, which could cost their own party control of the whole house. that is not just an observation, although it is, it is also something more more republicans are discussing in public because they cannot find a way to get there party to get back to what mike johnson called for, notice and unity or any civic collaboration. i know that is not how they do things. now a top republican calling out this problem and the obvious mistake of committing to chaos without a plan. >> unfortunately the chaos caucus continues to stop everything that occurs. it is not as if they have an alternative. we can have radical individuals who don't really have an ideology or agenda other than

chaos that can cause disruptions. that is what we have seen. that certainly makes it difficult for people who just want to get the job done. >> a criticism and observation coming from with diana -- within the party. how do you reason with people who don't have any governing goals? there are real tensions within the party ranging from foreign policy to the january 6th issues to how republican space this electorate which rejects their big recent and effective crackdown on women's rights and family planning. republicans have run away from the recent court ruling against ibf for example. hard-line issue groups are reportedly upset with gop lawmakers just for bailing on that unpopular position. there are big groups like heritage and the mike pence project that are taking up a different kind of sequel, maybe that is the word of the day. they have a plan to literally rerun the playbook and use that as pressure against the ivf

issue as politico reports. a majority of house republicans know they're being branded as gates or mtg is a loser for the party nationally. many know the party is losing because of this crackdown on women's rights. that was true, by the way before this ruling that i mentioned. and the have alabama voters. a democrat flipping the seat with a whopping 25 point edge after running on women's abortion rights. >> maryland lance has just won the house district seat in alabama. >> i reliably read district turning blue in a special house election. >> she may reproductive rights a centerpiece of her campaign. >> it is a victory for women, for alabama in general. >> people are very excited to see her win. >> a lot of this is people value the freedoms in the

south, the midwest and anywhere in the country. >> freedom as an issue is not going away and these could bleed out or even flip trump support. take florida, they will have a measure to protect abortion rights on the ballot this november. they will decide whether to enshrine abortion rights protections in their state constitution. that is a state which just restricted abortion to a 15 week ban. the voters who come out this november might be more motivated to use this race to overturn that new abortion ban. that could make the electorate more blue. there are signs we have seen that some voters are just not as psyched about joe biden as compared to say barack obama within the democratic party. that could matter in places where they are thinking do i want to turn out for joe biden? that's how elections work. in many states, over 10 in fact they may also be thinking do i want to turn out to speak out

on this issue in states that are letting people have input? in that sense tonight this goes beyond just the sequel reboot groundhog day that i mentioned. what is old is new again for house republicans. it is reliving their groundhog day trauma over picking their leader over and over and trying to face out extremists who they say don't even represent most republicans, let alone the country. for many voters who have told pollsters they are not very excited about either nominee we can see if we listen that the old stakes are back. they are new again and the stakes are high. who makes pregnancy and medical decisions? is the women with their doctors and their families? will it be government officials and unelected judges who will make those decisions? who decides rather religious views should inform how you

live? do you get to decide that, the people themselves? or, do you have unelected men in government deciding for you when religion will dictate your life, your choices, your freedom and lack thereof. the judge in that very controversial decision did explain why he wanted to make these choices for other families. human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy god. to explain how we got to this result he invoked the book of genesis and the prophet jeremiah" it in writings of steel vengeance. even before birth, all human beings have the image of god and their life cannot be destroyed without effacing of his glory. i would say to the judge you

might be better served working in a church or religious institution or talk radio or any number of places where you can share your ideas. this is america, your ideas are welcome to be shared. if you can convince people to follow them in a democracy that is great. should your religious ideas however strongly you believe them be forced upon other people, overwriting their ideas be they religious, secular or otherwise. if we are going to do that should only be predominately white christian man citing a certain religion to control the freedom, the bodies, the ivf planning, the family planning of so many other people? moms and dads, dads and moms and all the other people who might want to make their own family planning decisions. that is where we are at. which is why what i told you and i started with groundhog day political trauma. you take it all together in lance on stakes and have to do

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molly, your thoughts? >> i thought that was a pretty incredible monologue. you got a lot of things in there and pulled them altogether. you have wildly unpopular issues republicans are trying to push. like people don't want their rights taken away. ivf, wildly popular. it has given many childless couples children and is a huge thing. a lot of this is about popular. also republicans are super disorganized. they did not take the number two person in the house and put them in leadership, they put the guy who donald trump picked into leadership. let's be honest, mike johnston serves at the pleasure of donald j trump. we have a house that is really a mess. he cannot control his caucus. there is a one-person motion to vacate which he left in place.

at any point one person can call this whole thing off. >> the spotlight these issues put on not only the attacks on liberty, but the very clear explanation, as i read, people should know and to -- going into november and makeup is all mine. that is a judge who says his religious views will control other people's lives. >> the heritage foundation is in this quest to regulate ivf, which is completely unpopular. no one wants that. the antichoice crew coming out after ivf is coming out of left field. i think it speaks to a republican party that has no control. it is donald trump and no one running the show under him. there is no one who can say to these out-of-control members you are hurting the party. you are hurting these candidates in purple states who need to get re-elected. there is none of that. you have candidates in purple states forced to vote for

impeachment that will go nowhere. you have them forced to vote for things that will not pass, and things that are very zealous is -- and will make them seem very out of touch with the mainstream. >> jason? >> this is the problem, when as you pointed out, you are not governing for a reason. you're not trying to run the government, you are trying to push certain ideologies. the republican leadership problem has been a circular firing squad. it has been first-person shooter for 10 years and now they are all saying we don't trust each other. >> there are three people in this segment, jason. is this the big three? >> this is the big three. >> i don't want to over decode, but jason brought a very

topical reference to a song which has a rebuttal right now and we appreciate you for that. >> thank you. >> that is what is happening. mike johnston is in the rebuttal phase, but it may not work. ultimately this is about a lack of leadership on the part of the republican party. the problem is our rights are basically hanging in the balance the people who cannot figure out who wants to lead them. if there was an ideological drive behind this, if marjorie taylor greene actually believed anything other than trumpism we could say maybe there is a direction. but it is not. it is all about power, ego, voting rights, abortion rights and functional things about america are in the balance because they cannot figure out who they dislike the most. >> did you know you and laura ingraham have a little bit of

an agreement? >> that is something i would not have expected. >> take a listen and find out. >> this pains me to say this. thanks, mike. i hope you do speaker hakeem jeffries that you a nice fruit basket today. i have never met this -- witness what i am witnessing now. everything on the line in the country but committing a slow suicide, the party. this is why conservatives call the gop the stupid party, by the way. >> jason? >> it is true. i don't entirely blame my johnson. i don't agree with his ideology. he is dealing with a caucus not interested in actual leadership. at the same time he cannot seem to control the narrative. everyone seems to be afraid of marjorie taylor greene. you have people trying to primary the house republican or

conservative caucus. the doesn't seem to be a base of power. there is not even a click that people can operate from because the team seem to change every single week. i would not entirely blame my johnson, but his inability to incentivize his own party and say hey, guys, we are going to lose everything if we cannot keep it together is an indicator of his overall weaker leadership. >> there is a perverse incentive structure in this gop. people like matt gaetz raise a ton of money ousting kevin mccarthy. so what is happening is you have these people like marjorie taylor greene who want to get famous and want to raise money. they don't really care about passing legislation. remember, this whole party is a burning down party. trumps whole thing was when you get these people going they say

destroy the department of education, destroy this department, you have a senate candidate in montana, a republican who says they should destroy the department of homeland security. these are not pro-government people. it actually sets them up for this incentive structure so that they will act crazy, raise money and do it again and again. >> i think you both diagnosed the particularly. that is why the criticism is so much louder. it is now republicans" we ended up with. of course they fed the very environment. as for the lesser musical score we had a kendrick and a j-cole for jason. molly, you talked about the burning it down, it was giving barry ben harper. i don't know if that was on purpose? shout out to ben harper. >> clearly. >> thanks to both of you. trump has a cash crunch and now we have new details on those

billionaires who said they were abandoning him over january 6th. >> what happened yesterday is a disgrace -- disgrace and as an american i am embarrassed. >> embarrassed enough to be consistent? we will find out you have a special guest shining a light on that part of politics, but first, trumps first criminal trial is looming and he is attacking the judges daughter. it is not normal or legally okay. there are reports his former spokeswoman hope hicks will be called to the stand. we have the right person for this next.

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happy monday. we start this week, tonight, covering what has been happening in the gop house. we have next week, and then after that that monday will be the beginning of the first criminal trial of any other president in u.s. history.

trump will face the new york d.a., alvin bragg, in that case. it says basically he lied in business records and had a campaign secrecy plot, because he didn't want the voters to know everything about him going into the 2016 election. they are seeking an indefinite adjournment because of what they call presidential -- prejudicial press coverage. the judge could of course hear it. we are also learning more about what could happen. one source telling nbc trump spokesperson hope hicks is expected to testify. is trump worried? there are clear signs that he is and he's not going to just let his lawyers and the evidence to the talking. he has been facing this gag order and now he is attacking the judges daughter again over the weekend. d.a. urging the judge to make

abundantly clear the gag order prohibits that attack. there is a violent -- filing the fence his attacks are violent and reprehensible. chart responded saying they are constitutionally protected speech. the judge and members of his own party are condemning his pattern of violent and vicious rhetoric. >> it is very troubling. i think it is an attack on the rule of law when judges and particularly their families are threatened. >> his vicious attacks on the federal courts and the state courts and their individual judges, his objective was to delegitimize those courts. >> i think everyone needs to tone down the rhetoric. families should always be off limits. we are talking about someone who was president and running

to be president again going after the judges daughter with smears that i am not going to repeat in the news. that is one piece as he awaits trial. trump is also using his platforms to try to continue to encourage violence. his attacks include a disturbing image, as the new york times put it, as the current president of the united states is hog-tied. a maneuver where you tie someone up if you are kidnapping that or trying to use violence against them. trumps rhetoric has grown even more by vanessa charles approach. in two weeks he will be facing a judge you can see the other cases that could also calm. he may be showing panic or trying to change the conversation, he is also testing the limits of what we in trial or government and elections will allow people to do when it comes to opening fermenting violence against a sitting president of the united states. where joined by the former acting solicitor general neal

katyal. you are known to be very thoughtful and sober minded. you are never freaking out yet at the same time i am curious what you think first on that kind of violence? yes, there great free speech protections, but it has been well established doing things that could jeopardize the safety of a sitting president or lead others to do so are over that line. your thoughts on this? the mac donald trump is behaving, i think, in an horrendous manner. judge reggie walton appointed by george w. bush who you just show that excerpt from called him out exactly right. this kind of behavior has no place whatsoever in our court system. the district attorney in manhattan today thought a gag order to prevent this. i think the reason is this trial and other trials is because of his insolence and

influence. many average defendants do not act like a child and lash out in this way, they don't attack the families of the judge overseeing the trial. more importantly the average defendant does not have the means to call about the mob following his every word. those two things make the gag order essential. i was glad to see reggie walton and others call trump out for this. >> some of it echoes the way society had to do with this in 20/60 what he was saying we should ban people on the basis of religion. he was appealing to direct hate and discrimination. we have covered all of that and where's the line? the american bar association which doesn't generally take five in political or partisan way says all judges must be free to decide cases an issue rulings without fear of safety or that of their families. while they cannot speak out to protect themselves, we can, and we will.

our system of justice depends on it. and maybe solid these other entities are trying to hold the line. is this ultra whopper to the whole trial and does that on some level reward him? >> 100%. he has never stopped. i do think there is a difference between what trump did in the campaign in 2016 and what he is doing now. no one can hold a candle to me about what trump did there. i thought it all the way to the supreme court. there is a difference between that rhetoric and what he is doing here, delegitimizing an entire branch of our government and the crown jewel of our democracy, the judicial system. trying to make it so that he is above the law. both are evil, just evil in different ways. i get it, donald trump is care. as you reported hope hicks is now testifying for the prosecution against him in this manhattan hush money case. that underscores with the district attorney have said all

along. this is not just a case about paying off a star. it is about when the payoff occurred. it was right before the presidential election. trump used to cut out, his lawyer michael cohen to try to disguise the payments and hope hicks very well may know some very serious things about that. >> we have covered how trump tried to get people on his side about the unlawful search of his property, the arrest that he is now faced several times. very peaceful and organized, but arrests where he was booked as a criminal defendant. thankfully we did in the people come out. there is also this gap between what he hopes might be out there with a justice system that has seen all of these january 6th and others convicted, many are incarcerated. there are some people say i am not responding out of self- interest. that is how he determined works. if he continues this way he is

almost airing the judge to take some measure beyond finding him -- finding him. it was hard to imagine a judge in this scenario wanted to do pretrial incarceration, jailing for contempt a defendant. what do you think happens here if the judge is trying not to get pooled all the way into that, but trump is going to continue to clearly break the rules? >> i think the judge ultimately does face a hard choice and is unlikely to jail him. i do think there will be sterner warnings and a clearer gag order and the like. then there is a question of how much trump comes up to the line. his other strategy is to say there is so much pretrial publicity i cannot get a fair trial. that argument is generally looser every day of the week. derek chauvin and lawyers in the george floyd argument made that argument and it lost.

i think trump's argument is if the judge can be adequately provoked that may create pretrial publicity. i don't think it's going to work, but i suspect that is what he and his attorneys are trying to cook up. >> interesting, it reminds everyone there is also a lot of delay and strategy hear from someone who has been running against efforts to hold him legally accountable for some time. i want to thank you and remind folks you can always go to msnbc.com/opening arguments to sierra legal breakdowns with neil and others. now, saturday night live was roasting trump for the bible sales that he is doing. we are going to get to that. i do want to report on something really important. you look at leadership, wall street and financial people and a lot of them say january 6th was a turning point. now some of those billionaires are turning back. we have a special guest reporting on this exact area

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we have so many companies coming in, people like tim expanding all over and doing things that i really wanted to do from the beginning. you have really put a big investment in our country and we appreciate it very much, tim apple. >> that then president trump combining the first name of a company with the first main of

the ceo. it seems things like that go beyond a verbal mishap. donald trump use the presidency in many different ways to try to varnish his image and really do outreach to business. as a matter of elbow rubbing, but also tax cuts and everything else. in many ways he did get a lot of people in business looking the other way to things they might oppose, certainly disrespect, verbal assault and all the rest that they would not tolerate in their own companies, until january 6th when he was a loser of the election and many businesses after their companies, co leaders and other folks, hey, we are not funding this anymore. four years later some of those folks have changed gears again. i want to use specifics here, take billionaire investor

nelson peltz. he said he was sorry to have ever even voted let alone funded trump the day after january 6th. >> what happened yesterday is a disgrace. as an american, i am embarrassed. i did not vote for trump in 16. i voted for him in this past election, november. today i am sorry that i did that. >> he was sorry he did that. how sorry? not sorry enough to last. reports are peltz hosted trump and elon musk in his mansion in florida just last month and has said publicly that he plans to vote for trump this time, after all that. here is another influential engineer who said after january 6 trump lost me as a supporter. he showed in that hour he was

no commander-in-chief. now he is getting donald trump not just campaign cash, but $1 million to cover the legal fees associated in some cases like the doj case over the very activities this billionaire said he was so against. he is also pledging another $20 million to the campaign. his support comes at a critical time where what donald trump is on according to the legal system is costing him money and accountability. that is how it is supposed to work. he is also finally after many years finding the more regular what they call small dollar donors who have funded him are getting tired of seeing their money not go to political or campaign activities they might support but funneled back into his pocket to reimburse him to cover his personal legal fees. this is a big story and i want to bring in a special guest. then alexander covers this space. welcome.

>> thank you and thanks for having me. >> we went into specifics, there is a larger trend. i guess the first question to you as an expert, a journalist here you are not pro-or anti- billionaire as a category, right? as someone who watches, what is happening? why is it people that were allegedly, personally aboard by what happened have calmed down to not only say i take it back, but our funding him? >> billionaires are not all that different from people that we all know who when faced at the start of a primary campaign, dream of this candidate or that candidate. their dream may change. this is reminiscent of what happened in 2016. lots of people did not want trump and all of a sudden he was taking 30% of the republican primary and then more and more.

finally republican voters and billionaires coalesced around him. one thing that was really interesting is that after he won, people who were going to become the president start raising what is called a presidential inaugural committee fund. veneers pouring money into that. people who had not supported him during the campaign. generally i'm behind and i need to play catch-up and show i am on this guys side. in my season people decide to make the move a little earlier this time because they do not want to make it look like they were not paying attention at the start. >> in some ways they are human beings, sure. in other ways you are talking the top of the 1%. maybe one out of 1000, one out of 10,000. they have access, interest and power that is different. my question to you, and this is a real question. i really don't know the answer. if you have that much power and your 60, 70 or 80, what is the point if what you felt on

january 7 about this country, your patriotism, that act of insurrection as mitch mcconnell called it that early-morning hour on the senate floor, if you cannot continue to stand up to that for a couple of years while you have that much power, what is the point of the wealth and power? >> keep in mind a lot of these people who have become so rich are not satisfied with the things most people are satisfied with. in particular they are constantly looking to drive investment returns. politics, in a way, is a way of seeking a return on your investment. remember that the amount of money these guys have to put into a political campaign or behind a particular candidate is pennies for them. if you donate $1 million that is nothing for someone who is worth $10 billion. >> but the billionaires that i mentioned, do they no longer oppose what happened on january 6th and the person who benefited from and now pledges to pardon?

>> these folks have a lot to gain from another trump presidency. if you look at someone like nelson peltz, donald trump famously said he was going to get rid of the carried interest loophole and then kept it in the tax plan. trump is famously anti- regulatory. these are people who do have major financial stakes on the line here. when you look at okay, i can chip in a small amount of money, $500,000 or $1 million, but that is going to return me $500 million, $2 billion. for people who think strictly in term of investment that is hard to ignore, even we have moral signals that might be directing their attention and favor elsewhere. >> like i said, who wanted to learn from someone actually involves. this wealth and equality and this political part of capitalism in america is a big

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