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protective force for aid workers given the threat of widespread famine and concerns about, we've already discussed the jala and so forth. is there a role that could be considered to try to protect aid workers with a neutral party security force? >> protective force ought to be the idf, kelly. as we've said. and as they conduct operations in an urban, highly populated environment, they have an obligation to take care of the civilians living there. and the civilians quite frankly that are being moved about by the combat operations being conducted in a very confined space. they have that obligation. >> are you concerned aid will be cut off for some period of time because jose andres said they're extending operations for a period? the world food program is having difficulties. it seems like this incident is exacerbating the crisis. >> it certainly isn't helping.
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no question about that. we obviously respect andres' decision not to continue operations at least for a time. certainly we respect that. and others may make that decision as you talk about the world food program. we're not seeing any wholesale declination of humanitarian assistance, but yes, that's a concern. the more violent it gets for humanitarian aid workers, the less likely it is they're going to be willing to take those risks, which means it's more likely the people of gaza are going to suffer more. so yes, it's a concern. >> thank you. >> secretary blinken during his presser in paris did not condemn the air strike even though as you confirmed there was a dual american citizen who was killed. the french foreign minister who was at the same presser did. you said you're outraged. why is the u.s. not condemning the strike? >> i think by saying we're
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outraged, i think you can fairly characterize that as condemning the strike. of course. nobody wants to see this kind of violence happening to humanitarian aid workers who as was noted earlier, were doing all the right things. >> just a follow up to what was asked earlier about the floating pier. are you considering moving it off the coast of gaza? just trying to figure out -- >> by definition, it's going to be operating off the coast. >> sure, but like further away. how do you insure any private partners that the u.s. ends up partnering with to deliver aid is actually protected? >> that's what i said we're working on right now. force protection for the troops and the people that are going to be operating the pier is obviously going to be of paramount concern but it's only as good as the aid that gets to the pier and into gaza. there's going to have to be planned made, plans with partners, to make sure the aid is safely assembled and collected at the pier then
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safely distributed into gaza. it's going to be a multistep process. it's going to take team work and we're working our way through that. >> i have a quick clarification on something the secretary said in paris. he appeared to suggest iran delivered missiles to russia and that those are being used by moscow to target the ukrainians. can you confirm this that was the case? not just drone missiles but ballistic missiles? and if question, since when has this transfer been underway? >> i am not aware of specific verification that we can give to iranian missiles being delivered to russia for use in ukraine. they certainly continue to deliver drones and actually helping the russians manufacture iranian designed drones. and we do know the russian are and have been using for some time, ballistic missiles they have gotten from north korea, but i'm not personally aware of any verification that iranian missiles have been transferred and used. >> admiral, you said there's
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going to be an investigation into the world central kitchen strike and you're reserving the u.s.'s judgment. but what's a reasonable time frame for the investigation to be concluded and how regularly will the u.s. be getting updates on it? >> i think in terms of time frame as i said in my opening statement, we believe an investigation can be thoroughly conducted in a swift manner. now, what is swift? we're not going to dictate a date on the calendar to the israelis, but it's, it's noteworthy that just before coming out here, i was informed that they have completed a preliminary investigation and are reporting that up the chain of command. that's good. that means they've gotten some basic findings and some initial conclusions that they're willing to make. they have noted publicly that they were responsible here. that's another reason to suspect that it shouldn't need to be a long, drawn out, weeks long investigation. i think something like this would probably be resolved in a matter of days.
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>> on the strike in damascus, does the u.s. expect iran to retaliate and if so, how? >> well, i can't predict what the supreme leader and the irgc will decide to do or not. i don't know in terms of retaliation, i assume you mean against the united states. let me make it clear, we had nothing to do with the strike in damascus. so the comments by the iranian foreign minister that somehow we're to blame is just nonsense. we had nothing to do with it. we will, as we always have, take our force protection very seriously to protect our troops and facilities in iraq and syria, and as we have demonstrated in the past, as president biden has made very, very clear through the actions he has ordered, we will do what we need to do to protect those troops. >> on china, you said the two leaders made a commitment to pick up the phone and call each other when needed. i'm curious why it was needed
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now? why not next week? next month? was there a particular catalyst? >> not at all. they met again in november and the teams have been working a lot since november on fentanyl precursor, climate change, economic practices. artificial intelligence. there's been a lot of staff level work and both presidents thought that now, a few months later, this was a good time to check in with one another and see how that's going. discuss the future. >> thanks. just wanted to follow up with a question that came from, the conditions. and you said that the question wanted you to hang some conditions over their necks. the israelis. your tone suggested you wouldn't do that. why not? >> i've already answered this question a whole bunch of times. we believe that the approach we're taking is working in terms of making it clear to the
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israelis what our expectations are. i'm not going to get ahead of decisions one way or the other that we might take in the future. we are continuing to support israel because they continue to need military assistance because they continue to face a viable threat. >> the point of condition, the president on february 8th issued a memo and it said, you know this, but just for context, it said it was the policy of his administration to prevent arms transfers that list facilitating or otherwise contributing to violations of human rights or international humanitarian law. is fighting a missile and people delivering food and killing them not a violation? >> israelis have admitted this was a mistake they made. they're doing investigations and they'll get to the bottom of this. your question presumes at this very early hour that it was a deliberate strike, that they knew exactly what they were
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hitting. that they were hitting aid workers and did it on purpose. there's no evidence of that. i would also remind you, sir, we continue to look at incidents as they occur. the state department has a process in place and to date, as you and i are speaking, they have not found any incidents where the israelis have violated international humanitarian law unless you think we don't take it seriously, i can assure you, we do. >> they have never violated international humanitarian law in the past five to six months. >> the state department has looked at incidents in the past and has yet to determine any of those violate international humanitarian law. >> so we're going to continue to listen in to this briefing but clearly, a very intense back and forth about the investigation that is going to be done about the idf strike that admittedly israeli forces committed and it killed seven workers for humanitarian workers who were feeding people in the near
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famine situation in gaza. i want to bring in white house correspondent aaron gillcrist and josh lederman. you heard him say there is no state department finding that israel has violated international law. the question a lot of folks are raising and aid organizations are pulling out, they're calling gaza the most dangerous place in the world. is whether israel should be the ones conducting an investigation into what they did given the fact that world central kitchen's ceo has said that it was a targeted strike. tell me what you're hearing from your sources in israel and what you make of this back and forth john kirby is going through right now. >> it was interesting to hear how he seemed to make a distinction when it comes to intent of the apparent israeli strike. he was asked about those
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potential violations and made the point it would be different if it was determined that israel had known this was a aid convoy and in real time, decided to hit it any way. he said there's no evidence of that that has yet come to light. now, that does somewhat seem to be at odds with world central kitchen saying that they had very clearly coordinated with the israeli military exactly where their vehicles were going to be at the time that they were making that delivery. now, whether that information actually got to the people who were pressing the button that launched that strike might be part of what israel is trying to get to. and in fact, john kirby disclosed there that the u.s. has now been informed that israel has completed a preliminary investigation into what happened last night. he said that the results of that preliminary review are now making their way up the chain of command within israel's
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military. but we should say from the israeli perspective, the fact that within 24 hours, prime minister netanyahu came out and essentially acknowledged this was an israeli air strike is very different from what we've seen from israel in many past instances where there have been strikes on hospitals or other questionable circumstances in the gaza strip where it has taken israel days if ever to comment or acknowledge whether it was in fact an israeli strike that took place. i think that speaks to the fact that prime minister netanyahu and the rest of the israeli government know clearly that the entire world is watching. that for many folks who are inclined to support israel's right to self-defense, the targeting of aid workers if that was that, is a bridge too far. and israel working overtime now to try to get a handle on the pr crisis that has come about as a result of the strike that we saw last night. >> yeah, without a doubt.
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you know already there's tremendous pressure on this white house. there have been conversations in congress about whether aid to israel should be conditional. and when john kirby was asked about the impact of this knowing the ongoing pressure, he said it certainly isn't helping. but tell us what you know and what more you can add to the conund rum that is facing this white house, which continues to say look, they keep telling israel that they have to minimize casualties but then you have a situation like what we saw unfold over the last 24 hours. >> you're right. that seems to be the duality of what we're getting from this white house right now. this verbiage and needing to do more to protect civilians an the aid workers who are trying to help prevent an absolute famine from taking over the gaza strip. and then conversely, you hear the administration saying again and again that it supports
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israel's efforts to destroy hamas. and that that is unwaivering and is not going to change. so there's as you know, this conflicting messaging that we're getting from the administration. i want to add on to what josh was saying. we heard from admiral kirby here about the investigation that's happening in israel right now into what happened that led to the deaths of these seven aid workers. while they know there's an investigation going on, he said they hope the findings will be made public. which is to say they don't have a guarantee we'll know exactly what came out of this. he also suggested that the number of casualties could potentially grow. that's something the administration is looking out for. chris, i want to add that the press secretary did note at the beginning of the briefing today that president biden spoke to the founder of world central kitchen. i want you to hear more of what she had to say about that call. >> the president conveyed he has grieving with the entire world
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kitchen, world central kitchen family. the president felt it was important to recognize the tremendous contribution world central has made to the people in gaza and people around the world. the president conveyed he will make clear to israel that humanitarian aid workers must be protected. >> and that is a thought that we've heard from the president before. we've heard from other senior administration officials as well. but obviously in this case, that seems to have fallen on deaf ears. the reality is that as john kirby noted, more than 200 aid workers have been killed in this conflict. >> thank you both. still ahead, is donald trump's home state actually in play for democrats? why the biden campaign thinks this year florida is winnable. b. my mental health was better. but uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia, started disrupting my day.
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go into effect. the second keeps the issue in the minds of voters through november. and already, the biden campaign is out with a new ad reminding voters there about donald trump's role in all of this. >> in 2016, donald trump ran to overturn roe v. wade. now in 2024, he's running to pass a national ban on a woman's right to choose. i'm running to make roe v. wade the law of the land again so women have a federal guarantee to the right to choose. donald trump doesn't trust women. i do. >> let's bring in nbc's matt dixon, senior national politics reporter based in florida. and steve shell is a long time florida democratic strategist who ran the state for obama biden in 2008. the fact is if i'm right, the state has almost a million more registered republicans than democrats, so how do they think
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they can do it? >> well, this is the first bit of good news for florida democrats in roughly a decade. it's been very bad for them in florida. they had the moniker of nation's largest swing state for a long time, but it's kind of home now for the unluckiest state. but in this memo first shared with nbc news, the biden campaign outlined several things they can do to resurrect florida as a battleground state but it hinges a lot on these abortion rulings. i think there's going to be a singular message and focus you hear in florida. it's going to be abortion, abortion, abortion. florida has a unique place in that conversation and it's been effective for democrats in other parts of the country. >> all those folks behind you in green bay with there for a trump event tonight, but steve, you actually worked for last democratic president to win florida. so you know. this is a big state. it's expensive to run in.
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and arguably it's not such a hard argument, it's still a long shot for joe biden. how does the biden campaign figure out for example much money to put in florida versus michigan, pennsylvania, north carolina? it's high reward, but it's also high risk. >> yeah. i think the most important thing to keep in mind that trump has to win florida to win the white house. the last president to go to the white house without florida was calvin coolidge. the biden campaign has a lot of different options. they're clearly invested in the states they won last time. that's the right thing to do. i think we're in a stage of the campaign where the broader you can make the funnel at the beginning, the more states you can put in play. particularly when you have the financial advantage that the biden campaign has right now. >> as you know, steve, campaigns have an incredible ability to micro target voters. we talked to a mother and her 21-year-old daughter and they're torn about how abortion might
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it's a tale of two balance sheets for donald trump today. now on the plus side, he staved off potential finance disaster posting the $175 million bond in
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the new york civil judgment against him, but just getting that bond likely cost him millions and should he lose his appeal, he is still on the hook for the $464 million judgment. that negative side of the balance sheet gets even heavier after truth social lost 21% of its value on monday, making his state about a billion dollars less. all of that escalating questions over whether he'll have the money to run a truly fulsome campaign with donor dollars dropping and the biden campaign conversely stockpiling cash. donald trump is returning to the campaign trail for the first time in two weeks today, targeting the battleground state of michigan and wisconsin where polls have shown president biden is gaining. shaquille brewster is on the ground in grand rapids where trump is due to deliver his remarks anytime now. also with us, forbes senior editor, dan alexander, and former republican governor, john
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kasich, who ran against donald trump for president in 2016. okay, shaq, michigan is a state trump won in 2016. biden won in 2020. what's his plan to win it back? >> reporter: you're starting to see with what's going on here. it's that big focus on immigration. i think we have some fresh video from what's happening behind closed doors where you're seeing the former president have a round table discussion with members of law enforcement, with elected officials, with party leaders. he's talking about immigration and crime. in a couple of minutes, he'll come up and speak. the signage you have behind me says stop biden's border blood bath. that just gives you a sense of the messaging we'll hear from the former president. but the question here in a place like michigan, specifically in a place like kent county, a county trump won in 2016 but biden flipped in 2020, is question is that messaging we've heard before from donald trump, will
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it help win back some of the voters? listen to my conversations with voters including the first one from a lady who said she voted for trump in the past. >> this world is broken and bad stuff happens no matter you're a u.s. citizen or an immigrant. >> the immigration and problem at the border, it really needs to be in control. i have no problem with anybody coming over, but it would be great to have the paperwork and being able to make sure we're not letting all the criminals come over. >> he's a liar and he hasn't done absolutely nothing for immigrants at all as well as you know he's called mexicans rapists and as soon as he stood on the stage for the first time. so he does absolutely nothing for immigration community. >> reporter: now, the biden campaign is largely dismissing this visit, dismissing that messaging and we know the dnc is putting up billboards around the grand rapids area suggesting this is a political trip that if donald trump wanted to act on
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the border, wanted to improve the conditions there, he could have supported the bipartisan border will that was killed back in january. we'll expect to see the former president here any minute now, chris. >> thank you for that. okay, governor. so we know that donald trump figures out ways to get his message out there. whether it's through social media or whatever kind of things that he might say. but there's also another part of running for president as you know. the michigan republican party chairman told market watch that the trump campaign and its allies have made no significant election investments in the state. he put it this way, quote. we've got the skeleton right now. we're going to have to put more meat on it. can donald trump win in states like that, those battleground states, if he doesn't have the money for a ground game? >> you've got to have a ground game. i remember one of the democrat authors telling me a few years
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ago, we don't know how to win elections, we don't know how to go door to door, do things at the local level. she was right. they didn't win that election. the same is true now for republicans. if you have no ground game, if you're not getting out the vote, if you're not talking to your people, you've got a real problem. trump's problem is going to continue to be can he get those independent voters and what does he do for those republicans that voted for nikki haley who don't like him. can he bring them back in the fold? there's been some interesting stories about the fact he's making no effort to do that. that's something i really don't understand. so i don't know where those numbers come from. look, i think biden is now doing better. because he's been traveling, he's been getting better press. his state of the union has given him some momentum. he's doing better. but at the same time, it's still very, very close in those battleground states and if trump is looking for a running mate, i think he should go caitlin clark. he'd win iowa if he did that.
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i'm not sure she'd say yes. if i were her, i wouldn't say yes. she's got her own franchise, but it's pretty interesting. >> she's got the final four in the meantime, which happens to be in the great state of ohio. but back to politics, governor, look, dan. you know, money means, i'm not going to say everything, but a an awful lot in politics. and he's been diverting a lot of his money to his legal woes and his net worth just dropped by a billion dollars when the shares of his social media company tanked. your colleague at forbes quote, his fortune fell more monday than any other billionaire than elon musk and a chinese video game tycoon, but what do we really know? put into context for us trump's net worth overall. >> he's worth about $6.4 billion. keep in mind that just a month ago, he was worth about $2.3 billion.
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so he is way, way ahead of where he was just the last few weeks. that's because this social media network has gone public and shares are trading wildly. but it's sort of like being locked in a cage surrounding by gold bars. can't really access this money. he has lock up provisions as part of this publicly traded company now. and he has all of this money tied up with his legal woes. now he's pledged collateral against multiple bonds. so although he's really, really rich, he doesn't have a ton of cash. certainly not cash that's going to go into his campaign. not that it was even if he had it available to him. he hasn't put his own money into his campaign since 2016 when he put about $66 million in after saying he was going to fund the whole thing, which he did not. >> and we know he couldn't pay his bond. got it reduced to $175 million and you and the forbes team have done some reporting on the california billionaire who helped him get that money. what can you tell us?
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>> yeah. so company is called knight specialty insurance company. it's part of a group of companies owned by don hanky. he's a real numbers focused guy who made his fortune in subprime auto lending. this is a guy who's comfortable striking deals with people who other lenders or other insurance companies might turn away from. in this case, you know, he looked at the collateral, which was cash and investment grade bonds and said this is enough, we're going to get our money back. and we're going to make money on this thing. so sure, let's do the deal. he also, interestingly, has been one of the largest shareholders of a company called axios financial, which replaced deutsche bank as trump's lending of choice after he left the white house. so you have two different scenarios having a connection to the two different institutions who bail trump out when he's in
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deep financial trouble. >> donald trump sold this image of his wealth, his status, his glamour. that was his whole persona, the trump brand he thinks alone is worth billions. you ran against him. we ask this question a lot about whether or not all the changing financial fortunes and questions about his wealth affect voters perceptions but i wonder if the stronger question is about how he feels when these things happen and how it might impact his own arguably volatile approach to politics. his mood, essentially, governor. >> you know, there's a lot of things that i could speculate on. his mood and the way he looks at things is one that's, i just, beyond my purview. what i would say is there's no indication that he wants to fund his own campaign. the indication is that's why he
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put lara trump in there because then she came out and said all the contributions are going to go for his legal bills. so there's been no indication he's going to take any of this money and i didn't realize there was a lock up provision. in other words, because the company went public, they made a lot of money, he wasn't able to sell because he's locked up for a while. and then later at some period of time, he'll have access to it. the question is, the shares are trading wildly and they're down today. they could be up tomorrow. i think we've seen the high point of that. i'm not on wall street, but i think we've probably seen the euphoria which pushed that stock price up. i'm still amazed that he was able to ipo this and have the success he had. to take an idea that at some point that just seemed kind of silly and be able to take it out there to the market and generate wealth is pretty amazing, but i
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don't think you'll see that money going to fund a campaign. i think it's going to pay his legal bills and whatever else he wants to spend his money on. i don't think people are saying he's not very rich and therefore i'm not going to vote for him. back to the same thing. do people view him as stable enough to vote for him? where are these republicans? these haley supporters and where are the independents. >> governor kasich and dan alexander, i could talk to you guys for a lot longer. you going up north to see the big games this weekend, governor? >> i'm going to be glued to the television. that game last night between iowa and lsu was phenomenal. angel reece and one of my daughter's reece, my wife said she likes them. i like caitlin clark but watch page bueckers with connecticut. >> yes, sir, i will do it. thank you, guys. speaking of billionaires, forbes has just released its list of the world's billionaires and the ten-figure club is
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apologized for the death of the team in gaza. additionally, the president requested to convey his condolences to the families of those who lost their lives and reiterated a thorough commitment to investigating the tragedy which occurred as a result of the ongoing war. the president also addressed israel's commitment alongside its efforts to the release of captives held by hamas. the president thanked andres and world central kitchen, and their dedication to human values. again, the pictures you have been seeing, the results of that missile strike which resulted in the deaths of at least seven workers at world central kitchen. we continue to follow that story. meantime, today, we're getting our first look at the wreckage beneath the waters in baltimore after the bridge collapse. new sonar images just released by the navy show the mangled
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mess that crews are now attempting to remove to open the key shipping channel. just yesterday, crews spent ten hours cutting free and then removing one 200 ton piece of debris. recovery workers called it quote, a relatively small lift. for perspective, that small lift is something almost the size of the statue of liberty. tom costello is following all of this for us. we've now seen the first ships make their way through temporary channels that crews have created? >> yeah, but these are not cargo ships. essentially, they're boats. tugs and barges that are part of the operation there. with the coast guard and the army corp. of engineers salvage operations. so we are not seeing major ship target moving in. this is a small channel they've opened up to allow this critical boat traffic, barge and tugs to move in there.
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this is critical because these are 3-d sonar images there from the navy. if you're struggling to figure out what that is, it's not easy because these are under water images of the wreckage on the bridge of the floor of the river bed and that is as good as it gets. in other words, they don't have any video from under the water because the visibility is to terrible down there. you can literally see no more than a foot in front of your face. you try to shine a light in the water and it's like shining a light in a snowstorm. it reflects right back on you. so as a result, they need to get a good idea of what all the wreckage is in the water and the way to do that is by 3-d mapping then, then listen to this. somebody's going to be on a headset telling a diver in the water, move an inch to your left, to your right. the diver won't be able to see much because it's so dark and
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cloudy down there. this really complicates their efforts because they've got to cut up all these pieces of the bridge, lift them up and out of the water and as we were saying last week, that metal is razor sharp. their concern is that it could literally cause a diver to slice his or her wet suit or oxygen line so they're trying to map it all like this. it is really going to be a challenge. >> i'm just, so what does a diver do down there, tom? it's not like they're lifting something. what is their purpose because it does sound like extraordinarily dangerous work. >> last we heard, they're still not in the water doing the hard work yet because the planners want to know exactly what they're up against and have a detailed plan. a roadmap. if you will. eventually, they'll come in there with cutting torches and cut it all apart. okay, easier said than done when you can't see in front of you.
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this really is potentially very dangerous and it's why they're going very slowly here. they're cutting the pieces above water that are on top of the ship. they cut those pieces up and lift them up with a crane. but what is in the water and posing a risk to future ships, that is a real challenge. >> it is fascinating as well as terrifying frankly. thank you so much. appreciate it. he may be stepping down as minority leader, but senator mitch mcconnell says he's not going anywhere. especially when it comes to fighting for aid to ukraine, being threatened by members of his own party. here's what he told a kentucky radio station. >> i'm not leaving the senate and i'm particularly involved in actually fighting back against the isolationist movement in my own party and so many others as well. and a symbol of that lately is
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are we going to help ukraine or not. i think it's extremely important that we do that. >> ali vitali is reporting on capitol hill. ali, what else did we learn from that new interview? >> reporter: of course you can't talk to mitch mcconnell in this the age of trump as trump is likely the nominee of the republican party and not ask about the relationship between the two men. those of us who have followed it over the duration of the trump era know that it's frosty at best if we're being nice in our language. these two men are no fans of each other and have certainly traded public barbs to that effect. it doesn't sound like, and mcconnell was asked about this, that's ending anytime soon. watch. >> do you have any contact at all with donald trump, the presumptive nominee? >> oh, i've got my hands full dealing with the senate. >> you guys don't talk? eventually, there's going to have to be a come to jesus. >> spending my time on the senate. >> okay. no texts, no nothing?
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okay. >> i thought we were going to talk about the basketball? >> reporter: you have got to give the interviewer props for trying because i think a lot of us around here are trying to get inside what that relationship or lack thereof is between mcconnell and trump. certainly it's going that's going to come under scrutiny as we get closer to election day and to the convention because we've seen so many members of republican leadership fall in line behind the former president as the presumptive nominee of their party. and of course, mcconnell's goal is to take back the senate. we have seen over the course of the last several years that sometimes trump's candidates are not the ones that end up being electable in the ones we'd like to see mcconnell win in. we'll see where this goes next, but mcconnell clear in this interview that his goal right now and over the course of his term is to ensure that ukraine
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gets the support it needs. that's something that as congress comes back to town, will be top of mind. >> and i'm not going to hold my breath for the post senate speaking tour where he tells all about what he really thinks about donald trump. >> reporter: if those texts exist, i want them. >> i know you'll get them. ali vitali, thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right after this short break. fz r reports right after this short break. fz ech vo: this customer was enjoying her morning walk. we texted her when we were on our way. and she could track us and see exactly when we'd arrive. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go! >> tech vo: we came to her with service that fit her schedule. >> woman: you must be pascal. >> tech: nice to meet you. >> tech vo: we got right to work, with a replacement she could trust. we come to you for free! schedule now for free mobile service at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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