. good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. is the relationship between joe biden and benjamin netanyahu at a breaking point? the president is speaking with netanyahu right now, and

according to u.s. officials is furious over the israeli strike that killed aid workers and planned to give the prime minister an earful, but what are the chances netanyahu will move his hard line position and what's biden willing to do about it if he doesn't? plus, donald trump striking out twice, just moments ago a georgia judge rejected his challenge to the 2020 election case based on free speech grounds. that ruling comes just hours after a judge dismissed his bid to bide time before his hush money trial. what it all means for the cases against the former president. and why are women suddenly sliding back after steady progress climbing the corporate ladder? the alarming reversal and why experts now say true gender parity in america's c suites may be multiple generations away. . we begin with the situation in gaza, as described by the antipoverty group ox fam, beyond

harrowing, a near famine which usually unfolds over years has taken just months, quote, never before have we seen such rapid deterioration into widespread starvation. starvation is a slow and horrible way to die. your heart and lungs shrink. your body bloats as it searches for food to survive and turns instead to attacking muscle and bones. and now with aid organizations pulling out following the death of seven workers from world central kitchen, it will only get worse. >> it's not a war against -- anymore. it seems it's a war against humanity itself. if you're not killing them by bombs, you're starving them by lack of food. i would never imagine that hunger games be a movie, it seems what is happening is a true hunger games. >> true hunger games. the american father of 33-year-old afghanistan veteran

and father jacob flickinger calls what's happening insanity. he told "the washington post" women and children are starving to death. it's all over the news every day. he felt he could make a small difference. even first lady jill biden reportedly told her husband stop it. stop it now. against that backdrop, president biden and israeli prime minister netanyahu are holding their first phone call since those deadly missile strikes. with headlines questioning biden administration policy and a newly galvanized anti-netanyahu movement in israel, just part of the pressure to bring down the government, nbc's raf sanchez is reporting from tel aviv. monica alba is in washington. also with us, nayyera haq, former senior adviser, biden is obviously no fan of netanyahu. until now he hasn't wavered in his support and u.s. support for israel.

what do we know about this call? >> exactly, chris. we've maybe seen a bit of shift in some of the rhetoric, in some of the language around what israel is doing in gaza, but there certainly hasn't been any change in the policy, and it would be that kind of a shift that would be the most significant and meaningful here, and there have been times in this six months long conflict where the question has been raised is this enough of an inflection point where the u.s. will somehow condition military aid to israel, will something from that kind of the dynamic change? again, the president has said that the u.s. fully backs israel's right to defend itself against the genocidal threat of hamas. at the same time, given that air strike that killed those aid workers earlier in the week and the rising humanitarian crisis as you note, chris, we do know that the president is likely prepared to take on an even tougher tone and stance in this call with the prime minister. now we know, remember after the state of the union, he was even

caught on that hot mic saying he was going to have a, quote, come to jesus conversation with the prime minister. they then spoke on march 18th where the two leaders had agreed that there was going to be a high level delegation sent to washington so that there could be this meeting between officials on a potential ground invasion into rafah. the prime minister later canceled that. there was a virtual meeting earlier in the week. maybe that gets rescheduled. but this is also the first conversation since all of that back and forth. so there's plenty here for the president to push the prime minister on. we know that these conversations are often quite intense, but that they also want there to be something constructive and productive that comes out of it, so we're waiting to see if the president asks netanyahu for something specifically and whether he had any kind of commitments from this conversation, chris. >> nayyera, obviously president biden is under a lot of pressure, not just from news headlines but, you know, he has his own wife saying stop it.

but if there's going to be anything constructive, if there's going to be anything productive, how does that happen? i mean, it's one thing to say, as he has said, that he is angry. that the united states finds this, you know, untenable, but what's he going to do about it? >> we're starting to see this massive disconnect between public rhetoric and public sentiment and actual policy realities. the day of the attack -- is also a day that the united states effectively sent $18 billion of missiles and bombs to israel to continue its, what they call, defense of their homeland. so there has to be a way for -- as a democracy in the middle east as opposed to israel as defined by netanyahu, and so far biden has not been able to separate those two in a way that, frankly, his predecessor in the democratic party,

president obama, did make that distinction. that's a distinction that if it's not done in the next few weeks is not only going to cost millions of lives, it may cost biden the election. >> arguably, the pressure on biden, raf, is not just about the seven who have died but the refocusing of attention on the people who are starving to death in gaza. i mean, more than a million gazans are already facing what is called catastrophic hunger. that is the highest level according to the global health monitor, northern gaza in particular, according to ox fam. people have been surviving on 245 calories a day. that's the equivalent of a piece of bread and some milk. what happens now with world central kitchen not being the only one gone, other aid organizations have at least stepped back for now. where does that leave starving people in gaza? >> reporter: well, chris, the situation in northern gaza is

such that if you were getting a piece of bread and milk, you may be one of the lucky ones. our crew inside gaza sends us just the most haunting images every single day of children dying from malnutrition, dehydration, in the all but collapsed hospitals that are left in northern gaza. we saw the other week a mother who is cooking barley meant for donkeys to try to keep her children alive. we've seen families who are eating grass, and you see just the sheer desperation when those cargo planes fly overhead, and they drop food by parachutes and people, some of whom can't swim go out into the sea to try to get their hands on those boxes as they fall from the sky, and people have drowned trying to get ahold of it. so it is a truly, truly dire situation. it may be made worse now by the fact the world central kitchen,

which after the u.n. is really one of the biggest humanitarian organizations operating inside gaza, is suspending its operations. the u.n. is suspending movement of its people at night for at least the next 24 hours while they try to figure out is it safe to move around in the evening given that israel is saying part of the reason that these seven world central kitchen workers were killed is that they were misidentified at night. i had the opportunity to speak earlier to the parents of yay jacob flickinger, that u.s. canadian volunteer who was among the seven killed. i found this moving, chris, even in their own just searing personal fwreef, they said that they are just one of thousands and thousands of families who have lost someone in gaza. take a listen. >> we are two people who have

suffered, we've lost our only son, but we're only two. there are thousands and thousands. >> yeah. >> there are five other world central kitchen aid workers killed in this attack. there were 200 aid workers in gaza that have been killed. >> reporter: and chris, they are saying that they do not have confidence in the israeli military to investigate this killing. they want to see an independent investigation carried out by a third party. we've heard that from world central kitchen also. they are calling on the israelis to preserve evidence of that attack. at this point there is no indication that the israeli military is going to agree to allow a third party to investigate, chris. >> and i'm going just to let folks know in our next hour we're going to have the full conversation about what the evidence is that would relate to that full investigation. but nayyera, back to the idea of the human toll.

israel's economy minister was asked on "morning joe" whether he was concerned about the civilians who have died in this war. here's his response. >> we're concerned about the 134 hostages. here's a picture of some of them. these girls are under tunnels for half a year, raped, tortured. this is what we're concerned about. we're concerned about those victims in israel that were murdered, slaughtered, little children that were put in the oven. >> but no mention of palestinian civilians. so what does the president need to hear? what promises do you think he'll need in order not to take the next step, which likely would be putting conditions on any aid to israel or potentially even not providing some that's already in the works at all? >> for the last six months,

netanyahu has been very effective in using the idea of retaliation and ending hamas as an opportunity to effectively take control over all of gaza, and even rafah invasion is part of what netanyahu has clearly said is his wish to never see a palestinian state happen. that is the reality that many israeli citizens are dealing with. so you have protests throughout israel, and in the knesset yesterday from the families of hostages saying netanyahu you prioritize these hostages, but your policy isn't prioritizing them. that is something that can be a pressure point for netanyahu to change his mind. and the other pressure point in this conversation with president biden would truly be a commitment to work with the international community to feed the people of gaza. there are many methods and ways to deconflict in an attack zone how to get aid and food to people. that has not been a priority for the netanyahu administration

since the start of this war. >> we'll see if that changes. we are just learning from our peter alexander who spoke to a senior administration official that the call between benjamin netanyahu and president biden has finished. hopefully we'll have more to come with a few more details. but you know, nayyera, to the point of the official who was holding up the picture on "morning joe" today, it's worth remembering what started this. october 7th was the deadliest attack on jews since the holocaust. now you do hear about the innocent palestinians who are starving to death, who are being bombed into oblivion. has netanyahu made a grievous error, certainly a strategic error before ceding the moral high ground? >> losing the moral high ground is going to be a long-term challenge, not just for netanyahu but israel's longevity in the region. israel's right to exist on the world stage as a haven for refugees and people who were

persecuted during world war ii, right? so undermining that very principle hurts israel long-term. netanyahu, however, is facing criminal charges. he is unpopular. he is facing dissent within his own coalition. he is not looking at the long game of israel. he is looking at the long game of netanyahu staying more than 20 years in power. those two things are coming into conflict, and right now the united states is the only power left that may be able to shift that calculus for netanyahu. >> nayyera hak, monica alba, raf sanchez, we appreciate all of you. in 60 seconds, a new york judge, axes former president trump's attempts at delaying his hush money trial. so what happens next? is like... is he? claritin clear?

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breaking news coming out of georgia, the judge in donald trump's rico case has rejected his attempts to have the charges thrown out based on free speech arguments. in a decision that came down less than an hour ago, judge scott mcafee wrote the allegations that the defendant's speech or conduct was carried out with criminal intent are something only a jury can resolve. kristy greenberg is a former federal prosecutor, former deputy chief of the fdny criminal division and an msnbc legal analyst. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is with me as well. unpack this for me. what else did the judge have to say? >> so one of the things, chris, that the judge is sags here, you're not being prosecuted just for making statements that are false. you're also being prosecuted for willfully and knowingly making false statements that impact governmental functions. for example, some of the charges here have to concern impersonating public officers, meaning the fake electors scheme or forging documents as in,

again, the fake electors scheme, signing those certificates, what fani willis and her team say constitutes a forgery under georgia law. he's saying there's might come a point in time where after the factual record is developed this will be unconstitutional if they can't show those elements. if they can't show that it was willful and with knowledge and that it affected a governmental function, you can come back to me because i'm not foreclosing your ability to raise these changes at the appropriate time. but for now on the allegations by the d.a.'s office in the indictment, which i as a judge are obliged to take as true at this time, no first amendment problem. >> so kristy, that means the free speech argument isn't necessarily dead? >> not at least at this stage, as lisa points out, we haven't gotten to the trial yet, and a jury may find as a question of fact that the defendant's speech or their conduct here did not have the requisite criminal intent, and therefore, it would not be criminal. but that's separate and apart from their first amendment

arguments. again, if it's criminal speech, it's not protected by the first amendment. so at least the judge is saying at this stage pretrial, i'm not dismissing the charges for on first amendment grounds. >> all right, so lisa, i want to read a statement we just got from trump's lead counsel, steve is a dough. president trump and other defendants respectfully disagree with judge mcafee's order and will continue to evaluate their options regarding the first amendment challenges. it is significant that the court's ruling made clear that defendants were not foreclosed from, again, raising their as applied challenges at the appropriate time after the establishment of a factual record. where does the georgia case go next? does this at least for now mean no delays? >> i think it does mean no delays for now, particularly because he's left that door open. but chris, i want to differentiate between leaving the door wide open and leaving it open a hair. i would say that this is more akin to a hair because on the facts as we understand them now,

is it likely that the jury will not find that these were knowing and willful false statements? probably not, but steve sadow is correct, there is a door that's open. it's open a hair. it doesn't sound like they're likely to appeal but he's leaving that door open for himself as well. >> this isn't the only case that was impacted today. let's go to the new york hush money case. the former president tried and failed there to get the trial delayed by trying to raise the issue of presidential immunity. why didn't that work? >> well, because he sat on his -- his lawyers sat on their hands, and they didn't raise it sooner. as the judge noted in his denial of this motion, the defendants had ample notice of the fact that there were certain statements that trump had made when he was president on social media and in public that were going to be used as evidence at this trial. he was well aware that he could have raised a defense of presidential immunity and that

that was available to him, and he chose not to. he chose to raise it 17 days before the scheduled trial date. that is way too late to be raising this issue. and so really the court said you had an opportunity. you knew this was available, and by not raising it at the proper time, you don't get to raise it now. >> so the immunity, lisa, that argument was to try to keep certain statements that donald trump had made about michael cohen, stormy daniels out of the trial. why does he seem so intent on blocking that evidence? >> he's intent on blocking that evidence because it shows criminal intent. it is sort of like after the fact intent or consciousness of his guilt, judging by the fact that through some of those statements they include tweets, he is trying to intimidate michael cohen from participating in the law enforcement process and cooperating with law enforcement. that's why he wants those tweets

kept out because prosecutors say that the evidence is consciousness of guilt. >> lisa rubin, thank you. kristy greenberg, you're going to stay with me. what we're learning more about an ex-military member who crashed into the gate of an fbi office in atlanta. the new report that says the man who drove this suv into the barricade earlier this week had online ties to qanon and appears to be a trump supporter. nbc's ryan reilly is following this for us. ryan, what more do we know about this u.s. navy veteran? >> yeah, so you know, when this event initially took place your sort of instinct is to think an attack on an fbi office, we've seen that before. could this have possibly been someone who was a supporter of donald trump. it's only, you know, yesterday really that the facts started coming into view. we still don't really know the specific motivation for this attack, i should say but we know more about the background of this individual, and some great reporting by advanced democracy here looking into some of the

open source social media accounts that were available in association with the defendant here, and what it looks like is he was a member of nine different groups that were associated with qanon. he was also an election denier in the aftermath of 2020. you can see some support for donald trump that he was posting telling donald trump in response to one of his tweets, we love you, you have all of this support, so you know, we're getting a clearer picture of who this individual was, although we're going to have to wait to hear more from authorities about what exactly was the spark for this ultimate event. but you know, we had another attack on an fbi field office in the wake of the raid on mar-a-lago where an individual actually showed up with a nail gun to an fbi facility and eventually died after a standoff with police, and that individual was someone who was at the capital on january 6th. i should say there's no evidence that's surfaced thus far that this individual was at capitol, but it's certainly something we could be looking for as a lot of this rhetoric from donald trump

continues to be in the ether about january 6th about these, quote, unquote hostages that he says he's keeping and he continues the attacks on the fbi, chris. >> ryan reilly, thank you. right now, the desperate search and rescue efforts in taiwan with hundreds of people still trapped after the strongest earthquake there in 25 years. we're live with the latest after this. we're live with the latest after this hello, ghostbusters. it's doug. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. we got a bit of a situation.

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we're learning more today about the border policy one might see from a potential trump administration and it all ties in to the guest of honor at a gala happening tonight and hosted at mar-a-lago. nbc's gabe gutierrez has our reporting on this. gabe, what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, chris, this all comes as the 2024 campaign ramps up, and donald trump once again makes immigration part of his key pitch to voters. tonight the former president is set to attend a gala at mar-a-lago hosted by a group called border 911. that group includes several people who are proponents of the trump administration's controversial zero tolerance policy, which resulted in at least 5,500 families being separated at the southern border in 2018, before trump himself signed an executive order ending the practice after intense backlash. now, among those expected at the gala tonight is tom homan who was acting director of i.c.e. during the trump administration. also matt whitaker who served as

chief of staff, and rodney scott who served as border patrol chief during trump's last year in office. trump's open arm association with border 911 and his intensifying focus on migrants and crime on the campaign trail they provide one of the clearest windows yet into the second term, and the hard-liners to enforce immigration laws. trump has already laid out an aggressive immigration platform for a second term. that includes mass deportations and asking congress to ensure drug smugglers and traffickers can receive the death penalty. but chris, notably he has been vague on whether he'd reinstate any form of zero tolerance or family separations. still, trump has also declined to take a clear stance on the issue. when asked whether he's reinstate the policy during a cnn town hall in may, he didn't answer directly, and he didn't either during an interview in november. but he pointed out that family separations stopped migrants from coming to the u.s.

now, a spokesperson for the trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment specifically on trump's position on family separations in a second term, and the spokesperson instead passed along a link to his broad immigration platform. also, the spokesperson did not respond when asked about the border 911 event tonight at mar-a-lago, and according to the invitation, individual tickets for the event range from $1,200 to $5,000 and tables of ten are priced as high as $50,000. chris. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. today nato is weighing a plan to provide more constant long-term military support to ukraine. just moments before a commemorative ceremony for the alliance's 75th anniversary, estonia's foreign minister made an appeal for aid that would include more air defense systems, drones, and artillery shells. secretary of state antony blinken echoed that sentiment saying nato's core principles are being threatened by russian

aggression. a massive rescue effort is underway in taiwan right now, even as relentless aftershocks from the biggest quake to hit that island in a quarter century continue. it's estimated now that 705 people are trapped, ten are dead, another 1,099 are reported injured. some painful images show this morning first responders digging and uncovering bodies in piles of debris. but most of the people trapped are confirmed to be safe, at least right now. this wounded woman was rescued by helicopter. officials have also air dropped food and water to a massive group stuck at a remote hotel and evacuated families out of the windows of buildings that are now teetering sideways in the hardest hit city. nbc's janis mackey frayer is on the ground in taiwan near the epicenter of this earthquake. janis, i think you've seen everything there. how is it possible that after a 7.4 magnitude earthquake, the

buildings around you, some of them at least are still standing? >> reporter: well, you can see the building behind me is teetering precariously. this building will be demolished tomorrow. officials say there's simply no way to salvage it, and they have very strict codes for buildings here because they've learned lessons over the years in becoming very acquainted with earthquakes. throughout the day, we've seen rescue teams trying to reach these hundreds of people who are said to be trapped, and by that, we mean they're trapped between rock falls on blocked roads. they're trapped at the national park. there were miners who were trapped in two rock quarries. they were airlifted to safety earlier today, but it's a matter of trying to reach those people who aren't able to get to safety on their own because these major roadways have been cut off by landslides.

some remarkable video earlier today of a dash cam video showing boulders actually rolling down the road and crushing cars. so these are the conditions that emergency crews are trying to work against, the challenge, of course, is that there have been more than 300 aftershocks since the initial 7.4 magnitude quake. a lot of those aftershocks, dozens of them have been quite strong registering a 4 or more magnitude, and now weather is becoming an issue with rain setting in and more rain expected for the weekend, and that could complicate their efforts. so there is this race against time to try to get to those people who need help so they can get them to safety. chris. >> janis mackey frayer, thank you. women who were denied abortion care and face dangerous complications as a result take their cases to a tennessee court demanding change.

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breaking news in donald trump's civil fraud case. the new york attorney general has filed notice questioning essentially the financial strength of the company that posted his bond and whether it can cover the cost. i want to bring back msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin who is frantically looking at her phone

because this is literally just breaking. so this is the $175,000, right? >> $175 million. >> if only it was $175,000, donald trump is saying. $175 million, so there's a question about whether they're really covering it in a sufficient way, is that it? >> let's go back for a second. so this morning, night specialty insurance company filed a corrected version of the bond that attached among other things its financial statements. and showed what its assets were as of the end of last year. that's december 31st, 2023. it has over $537 million in assets, and what the attorney general's office is saying, the cash it has on hand is less than the bond and they need to know because specifically this company is not admitted under new york's department of financial service, it's not a new york insurer, and because it doesn't have qualifications in new york state, they are entitled to ask for what's called justification of the surety. that means among other things,

chris, that they want to know how is this collateralized? what are the specific identifiable u assets that donald trump posted to ensure that if they win on appeal, they will get back this $175 million and up to the value of the judgment that judge engoron had ordered, which at this point stands over 500 -- i'm sorry, $454 million if that judgment's upheld. >> wasn't that similar to the problem donald trump himself faced? because he clearly has a lot of assets. the question of are they liquid assets, how quickly, for example, if he needed to could he sell something, and would it be worth what -- >> correct. >> -- would be needed to cover the bond. >> he had other problems too, a lot of those assets were encumbered and he couldn't pledge them because there was already somebody in line. if you owe a $125 million mortgage, for example, to an existing lender you can't give that over to the attorney general first when you've got

somebody in line. that is a similar problem. trump had even greater problems on his own, which is why he went tonight specialty insurance company as his sure ter here. here you see the attorney general's office saying what you filed this morning is still not enough to satisfy us that you have posted a bond that is sufficient to cover our judgment if and when we win on appeal. >> so now what happens? >> they have ten days to file what's called a justification of the surety, and then there will be, in addition to the motion practice, a hearing at which the sureter can come forward. they have copied amite shaw who's president of the night specialty insurance company sign the bond. he is copied here because he is basically the person on whom this is being served. you will show up. you will file these documents to explain to us how this is collateralized. this is bringing don hinky and his company a whole lot more into this mess than i fear they anticipated. >> okay, so then the question

becomes what if -- we don't know what's going to happen, but what if the decision is, no, this isn't good? >> so if it's not, if it's not good, then trump will have to obtain a new undertaking to prevent tish james from enforcing on the judgment while he appeals. right now he has a stay, but that stay is conditional on his having posted this $175 million bond. if this bond isn't sufficient, according to a court, trump will have to obtain another one in lieu of it. >> remind us what enforcing might mean. >> enforcing could mean seizing assets. it could mean, for example, seizing bank accounts. it could also mean taking steps to obtain the ownership of assets that are free and clear from other mortgage. in the perfect world, tish james doesn't want to get into a war with other lenders to whom donald trump already owes money. she'd rather take possession of assets or properties that are free and clear of other demands,

but she never wanted to get into that business in the first place, which is why the surety is a good option for the attorney general's office as well. they are a law enforcement office. they are not a real estate agency. they are not interested in conducting a fire sale any more than donald trump wants to host one himself. >> well, this is a perfect example early in this whole process when we knew there were four criminal cases, what impact it might have on the political calendar, and one of the things folks like you said was these cases can get complicated. there can be delays. there can be things like this that happen and now it's another thing that's taking time and attention for donald trump and his legal team away from other things that he has to do like run for president. lisa, thank you for that late breaking news. also right now, oral arguments are underway in tennessee for a critical abortion lawsuit looking to clarify the medical exceptions in the state's near total abortion ban. plus, get a temporary injunction

against the ban while these legal proceedings play out. the suit is brought by seven tennessee women. they say they were denied care after having severe and life-threatening pregnancy complications. nicole blackman is an example. she found out her baby developed its organs outside its body. she was in terrible pain, ran the risk of stroke, but the strict abortion law kept her from getting care. she says she gave birth against her will to a stillborn baby at 31 weeks. nbc's priya sridhar is outside the court in nashville. walk me through what the state's lawyers are arguing. >> reporter: both sides have sort of outlined their cases. the center for reproductive rights which is p representing those kn women is asking for for a temporary block on the state's abortion ban. they say even though there is a

necessary medical exception, that what's happening in practice on the ground is that tennessee doctors are simply too afraid to perform abortions because they're afraid of the liability factor. this is a class c felony, which is punishable with anywhere from 15 years in prison, also a hefty fine. these doctors could lose their medical licenses. so what's happening in the case of these seven women is some of them had to get to almost near death circumstances they say before they were able to get an abortion, and many of them had to travel outside of the state to other states where it's allowed. now, representatives from the tennessee attorney general's office also said that they believe that these necessary medical exceptions clause is sufficient and that it allows doctors to perform the abortions, and they don't see any need for those rules to essentially be clarified. let's take a listen to what both sides had to say in court today. >> tennessee's criminal abortion ban is endangering the lives of pregnant women across the state.

none of these seven plaintiffs wanted what the defendants have called an election abortion. they all needed abortion care because of serious risks to their own health. >> while we can all agree that the past health circumstances are tremendously unfortunate, i submit here they do not provide a legal reason to invalidate the medical exception at issue in this case. we need to go to secretary antony blinken who is holding a news conference after meeting with some nato leaders. let's listen in. >> now, of course what happened after october 7th could have ended immediately if hamas had stopped hiding behind civilians, released the hostages, and put down its weapons.

but israel is not hamas. israel is a democracy. hamas a terrorist organization. and democracies place the highest value on human life. every human life. as has been said, whoever saves a life saves the entire world. that's our strength. it's what distinguishes us from terrorists like hamas. if we lose that reverence for human life, we risk becoming indistinguishable from those we confront. here's the current reality in gaza. despite important steps that israel's taken to allow assistance into gaza, the results on the ground are woefully insufficient and unacceptable. 100% of the population in gaza knows acute levels of food

insecurity. 100% of the population is in need of humanitarian assistance, and those working heroically to provide that assistance are doing so in great peril to their own lives. this week's horrific attack on the world central kitchen was not the first such incident. it must be the last. president biden spoke with a short while ago with prime minister netanyahu. the leaders discussed the situation in gaza. the president emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable. he made clear the need for israel to announce a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers. he made clear that u.s. policy

with respect to gaza will be determined by our assessment of israel's immediate action on these steps. he underscored as well that an immediate cease fire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians and he urged prime minister netanyahu to empower his negotiators to conclude a deal without delay to bring the hostages home. the two leaders also discussed public iranian threats against israel and the israeli people. president biden reaffirmed the united states' strong support for israel in the face of these threats and our commitment to israel's security. right now there is no higher priority in gaza than protecting civilians, surging humanitarian assistance, and ensuring the security of those who provide it. israel must meet this moment. now here in brussels, we marked 75 years to the day since the

founding of the nato alliance. we had our first ministerial meeting with sweden at the table, a full ally. there are now 32 members of the nato alliance. and that alliance has continued to adapt to meet challenges while they emerged. while we focused on celebrating the fact that we've hit the 75-year mark, we're intensely focused on the future. we discussed outcomes for the upcoming washington summit in july july, including increasing our support for ukraine, strengthening nato's deterrence and defense posture, in particular through boost our defense basis on both sides of the atlantic and keeping in cooperation with partners including from the indo-pacific. we also held our second nato-ukraine council. we reaffirmed that ukraine's

future is in nato. our goal now is to create a bridge to ukraine's full membership, offering additional support, and cooperation as they make the reforms necessary to join the alliance. ukraine has made some remarkable progress in recent months, it pushed russia's fleet back from the black sea opening up shipping lanes to get grain to the world and exports through the black sea equal or exceed exports before the russian aggression in february of 2022. ukraine is attracting more and more private investment, and it is valiantly holding ground on the battlefield in the face of an ongoing russian onslaught. it's also making progress on governance and security reforms , which we discussed in our meetings today, increasing transparency and accountability for the military assistance we're all providing to ukraine, and i think this progress shows that ukraine is taking our recommendations, the

recommendations of all allies seriously, doing the hard work to meet nato's high standards. but we also know this more aid is urgently needed for ukraine. we heard directly from foreign minister, every day without further assistance puts ukraine's defenders and civilians in greater peril. our support is especially important as the number of countries are helping russia build up its defense industrial base and continue to perpetrate its aggression on ukraine. china continues to provide materials to support russia's defense industrial base. the dprk and iran also providing support. and all of this is fueling putin's war machine as he attacks ukrainians and threatens

european security. the united states has to do its part. allies have been stepping up, shouldering their share of the responsibility. there was just a few weeks ago announced 50 billion euros in additional funding. they're making unprecedented investments, and we have now 2/3 of the allies who are meeting the wales pledge of dedicating 2% of the gdp defense. so more than ever, we have genuine burden share among the allies, and in the 30 or so years that i have been engaged in these issues, this is probably the best example of burden sharing that i have seen. the united states has made tremendous contributions ourselves but it is imperative that congress pass the supplementary budget request that president biden has made. i know that speaker johnson committed to bring the supplemental to a vote swiftly. the message from brussels is clear, that vote cannot happen soon enough.

>> i also heard this from ally after ally, our commitment, our engagement is indispensable for this alliance. i also heard the profound impact it would have on global security. the united states went anyway to back away from its commitments. i agree with that, and that's also a message that i intend to take back with me to the united states and our congress. a lot more was discussed at these meetings over the last couple of days. i'm happy to get into any of those issues, but in the interest of time, let me turn to your questions. >> first courtney mcbride with bloomberg. >> thank you. good afternoon, mr. secretary. how viable is the proposal for a five-year hundred billion dollar nato fund to aid ukraine and for

greater alliance involvement in coordinating weapons to kyiv and is the u.s. willing, able to contribute fresh money to that if it is a viable option? and then beyond that, is the u.s. among the allies who have committed further searching their own stocks for additional air defenses for ukraine? and you just mentioned that -- >> we're going to continue to listen to the questions and answers and we'll bring you any news if it's made by secretary antony blinken but there are a couple of notable things that he said including democracy's placed the highest priority on human life. obviously making that after seven aide workers from world central kitchen were killed in an israeli air strike. it is, what he says, what distinguishes us from terrorists. he read from the official white house readout of the call between president biden and prime minister benjamin netanyahu including that the

humanitarian situation on the ground in gaza is unacceptable, they must make significant concrete and measurable steps to address civilian harm and humanitarian suffering. i want to bring in nbc's monica alba covering the white house. we talked just a short time ago what would be the message from the president. another significant one is he's urging prime minister netanyahu to empower his negotiators to get the deal done that would include release of hostages, monica. >> exactly. he is essentially pushing him harder, perhaps, than he has before, urging him to accept the terms that are on the table so hostages can be released. in the same sentence, he is effectively calling for a, quote, immediate cease fire because of how dire the humanitarian need is. and remember that over the last couple of weeks and months, the white house would be clear saying things like we want to see a cease fire for six weeks

or so so we can get hostages out and get more aid in. this is probably more blunt terms than we have seen. i think what is critical from what secretary blinken has said and this readout, chris, is effectively the u.s. is placing a bit of a test for israel out there in this readout from this conversation saying that israel has to take some specific concrete and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering and the safety of workers. the president made clear that usa policy with respect to gaza is going to hinge on how israel takes immediate action on these steps. that's the first time we're getting a bar of a measurable sense of how this could be evaluated in the near term that could potentially lead to a shift in policy if the u.s. determines that israel didn't do enough on some of those areas that i just outlined, so that

speaks to the tension of the moment and how candid the president was. >> monica alba at the white house for us. stay close. more "chris jansing reports" right after this. more "chris ja" right after this so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. every day, more dog people are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. and delivered right to your door. it's smarter, healthier pet food. (psst! psst!) ahhh! with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary.

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