it is good to be back request you in this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, a single phone call that is communicating a

lot. president biden telling israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu that strikes on humanitarian workers are unacceptable and demanding immediate action. it comes as nbc reports on a volatile meeting earlier in the week with one israeli official yelling and waving his arms. also ahead, the race to bask in the sun or a rare total eclipse, what the faa is warning about this week's major travel boom. plus, marjorie taylor greene keeping her campaign to oust mike johnson alive, her latest comments likening him to nancy pelosi. and a deadly elephant attack, what happened moments before it charged a truck full of tourists, killing an american. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with courtney kube at the pentagon. you have new reporting on the meeting earlier this week before today's critical call where things got kind of explosive.

what can you tell us? >> this was a meeting earlier this week, a virtual meeting between senior officials and israeli officials and the intent was to talk about rafah, and specifically, according to a number of officials familiar with the meeting, they spoke about the israeli plans to address the humanitarian situation that would come with a possible ground invasion of rafah. now, that would include plans the israelis presented to the united states to move more than a million civilians out of rafah according to officials in only a matter of a couple of weeks. as you mentioned, the meeting grew somewhat tense. over the course of the reporting on the meeting, our colleague carol lee and i learned that a number of recent meetings between u.s. and israeli officials have been more and more intense as they discuss the situation in rafah and the humanitarian situation that neigh grow out of that. in addition to the plans to move the civilians with what the u.s.

officials said was simply too quickly, the officials familiar with the meeting also said that the israelis did not have a plan for how they would deal with the logistics, getting food to the people, sanitation, even enough tents. the idea is they would move the civilians north of rafah to an area that had been demolished. the officials telling us that one of the members of the israeli war cabinet while defending the israeli plan grew somewhat agitated, chris. >> courtney kube, thank you for that. now to a new faa warning for travelers headed out for spring break or next week's rare solar eclipse. nbc's yasmin vossoughian is at laguardia airport for us. how are things looking? >> reporter: let me show you, chris. i'm going to walk this way to show you exactly what's going on here. let's talk numbers, right. reporting 50,000 travelers going told.

48,000 or so tomorrow, kind of a peak for the season, the confluence of what we're talking about, a lot of spring breakers coming home from spring break and/or folks heading out for the eclipse on monday. i know you're headed there as well. take a look at the board here. you've got delays, some cancellations as well. domestically, country wide. we're looking at about 2,000 or so delays, about 300 cancellations so far. a lot of folks, chris, that are choosing to travel today tell me it's because the end of this spring break is this weekend, better to travel on a thursday and prices may be a little lower. if you go online and look for a plane ticket right about now, those prices are sky high. take a listen. >> the closer we get to this coming weekend, the more expensive it got. that's one of the reasons we decided to travel on easter and kind of do our days in new york

city. >> reporter: so, chris, let me give you tips for monday, and this is for you, by the way, as well. there could be traffic jams, parking at airports, and by the way, if you're going to a small airport, you look at that kind of path in which we're going to be watching the eclipse from texas to maine. ohio, indiana, expecting half a million travelers, texas, 1 million travelers, if you're going to a small airport, pack your patience because there's going to be less availability in getting in and out of those airports in anticipation of a major travel day. >> aren't you little miss susie sunshine, i will be where you are tomorrow with the rest of crowds. yasmin vossoughian. >> reporter: always my friend, always. >> appreciate it. it doesn't look like congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is backing down in her plans to get mike johnson ousted from the speakership. julie tsirkin is on capitol

hill. what is she saying now? >> reporter: i think it would serve you and our viewers better if we hear what she had to say yesterday on this topic before we talk about it on the other side, and what it means for speaker johnson, take a listen. >> this isn't a republican speaker we have right now. this is a democrat speaker of the house because there's zero daylight between what nancy pelosi did last congress and what mike johnson is doing now as our so called republican speaker of the house. >> it's just an amazing thing to see. will he take a call from you? >> i'm planning to speak with him on friday, and i'm very much looking forward to that. >> reporter: chris, i'm told the two will speak tomorrow. speaker johnson and congresswoman marjorie taylor greene days ahead of congress returning back to the capitol, where as you remember, right before they left for recess, marjorie taylor greene filed a motion to vacate him. it wasn't privileged. there was no ticking clock for

when republican leadership had to put tonight floor, more so served as a warning if anything. we reported what johnson plans to do with ukraine aid as he has talked to ukrainian president zelenskyy about the dire situation on the ground, johnson continuing to maintain that he does plan to address something when it comes to the border. you'll remember that failed bipartisan effort that republicans rejected. he does plan to do something. it's not clear what that will be and whether it will peel off those hard liners that are planning potentially to join greene in her effort to kick him out. she maintained in her conversation with tucker carlson that this is not about electing a speaker hakeem jeffries because all of this chaos bodes better for democrats but we are no closer to figuring out what johnson's plan is on ukraine and what will keep the job for him either. >> julie tsirkin, more to come, thank you. to a shocking video of a safari that thunder deadly when an elephant charged a truck full of tourists. nbc's shaquille brewster is following this for us.

so what exactly happened? >> reporter: let's walk through the video and play it from the beginning so you can see just how heartbreaking it was, and what exactly happened. we're told that it was a group of six tourists traveling in zafoui national park in zambia. you see an elephant in the distance, a bull elephant. you see they're driving along, and a lady says, oh, my goodness. a man says, it's coming fast, and the vehicle continues driving, and you see it there as the elephant is approaching. and as the vehicle continues going, the elephant, rather, the vehicle slows down and then comes to a complete stop. and i want you to listen to the moment of that chaos as the elephant comes up and uses its tusks to flip over the entire vehicle. >> hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey. >> reporter: now, the ceo of the travel company wilderness released a statement explaining kind of what we saw there. he said their guides are extremely well trained and experienced but quote sadly in this instance, the terrain and vegetation was such that the guide's route became blocked and he could not move the vehicle out of harm's way quickly enough. one guest was taken to the hospital, four others were treated for minor injuries, but unfortunately one 79-year-old american woman lost her life. her daughter posted on facebook announcing her name. her name is gayle madsen, and shared some of the pictures that gayle took as she was on that safari adventure. her daughter writing, quote, i hope these pictures bring some happiness to those that love her. this is extremely rare for it to happen, especially when tourists are going on an adventure like

that, but unfortunately it's a video that we have seen before, and an instance that we have seen before as elephants have become aggressive sometimes with tourists. >> shaquille brewster, thank you. in 60 seconds, an nbc news analysis revealing the truth behind the january 6th defendants who donald trump likes to call hostages. i know what it's like to perform through pain. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.

donald trump is once again glorifying the actions of perpetrators of the january 6th attack, this time posting a clip of his musical collaboration with the defendants, i should say prisoners who make up the j6 prison choir. >> one nation under god. >> ♪ o say does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪

♪ >> of course on the campaign trail, the former president has spoken glowingly about the rioters, vowing to set them free. >> i'm inclined to pardon many of them. they're policemen and firemen and soldiers and they're carpenters and electricians and they're great people. many of them are just great people. >> you see the spirit from the hostages, and that's what they are is hostages. >> but today new nbc news analysis is giving us a look at the reality of who these convicted insurrectionists really are. nbc's ryan reilly is reporting from washington, d.c. also with us, rick hiler, msnbc political analyst, and republican strategist, and founder of foundry strategies, ryan, i know you did a deep dive on this. give us a fact check here on some of the folks that trump is calling hostages. >> sure, so, you know, the vast

majority of people who are incarcerated on january 6th charges are people who have been gone before a judge. pleaded guilty or been found guilty by a jury of their peers, 12 individuals getting in a room looking at evidence, deciding they are guilty of some charges and not guilty of other charges. what we focused on in the new analysis is that smaller group, 15 individuals who are being held pre-trial, meaning that they have not been convicted of any charges. each of those individuals had an individualized assessment done by a federal judge who decided that they needed to be held for various reasons. usually it's because there's overwhelming evidence that they are a risk, either a flight or, you know, there's overwhelming evidence of the violent conduct that they are alleged to have committed that day, and there's a worry about the safety of the public, just three individuals to highlight there. there's one person who actually is accused of throwing a bomb inside the tunnel that exploded and set off explosion inside the tunnel where many officers were gathered. that caused officers to lose

hearing for several hours. some of them days. they reported ringing in their ears. there's another individual charged with firing off a gun twice outside the capitol during the ongoing attack. that individual stabbed a man after january 6th. that video emerged showing him firing off the weapon. he has a lengthy criminal record. there's another individual, the fourth person to invade the capitol that day, he was all dressed up in para military gear, kicked the door open. nonetheless, he was released initially on his january 6th charges, and then lo and behold, he teamed up, allegedly, with one of his friends and plotted to kill the fbi agents who were investigating for the january 6th charges. the codefendant pled guilty, admitted the two conspired to kill fbi agents. edward kelly is awaiting trial. he is one of the individuals,

one of the 15 who is being held pre-trial because a judge made an individualized determination that they are people who need to be held for reasons of public safety or risk of flight, chris. >> a former senior adviser to president george w. bush got pretty hot about the idea of rioters as hostages, here's karl rove. >> every one of those. [ bleep ] who did that, we ought to find them, try them, and send them to jail. and one of the critical mistakes made in this campaign is that donald trump has now said i'm going to pardon those people because they're hostages. no, they're not. they're thugs. why trump has done this is beyond me. it's a mistake on the part of the trump campaign to allow his impulses to identify himself with the people who assaulted the capitol, rather than people who stand for law and order. >> the problem with that advice, chris, is that the campaign can't tell trump what to do. we don't know that he listens to

anyone than his own gut. how does it hurt him? >> well, it's not beyond me why he's doing it. i don't know why karl is confused. i agree with everything, except for the reasoning. donald trump wants to undermine the institutions that are currently prosecuting him because he's up on 88 felony indictment charges and represents the american people to believe that the whole justice system is corrupt, and he wants people to do exactly what they did on january 6th, take up arms and weapons, and fight against the justice system, which is why as ryan pointed out, one of those guys went directly after the fbi. another showed up at barack obama's house because donald trump posted his address with a firearm. the good news is out of 1,300 arrests, 500 people have been convicted, and many of them seriously. some have gotten a few days.

some have gotten up to 22 years. these are criminals. these are not patriots. they should not be celebrated in any way whatsoever. in fact, in the united states, we have an unblemished record practically. i guess the civil war would be the one exception. we have transferred power peacefully, and did so actually during the civil war right up until donald trump didn't want to september results that he had lost the election to joe biden, and he orchestrated, planned and directed an insurrection and cheered it on as those people assaulted police officers who, by the way, were heroic in defending all the members of congress. remember, not one member of congress was hurt or injured or worse, and that's because of the heroic actions of the police who trump and his supporters claim to back the blue. they don't back the blue. donald trump is responsible for the death of brian sicknick, and every one of those officers injured on january 6th, and it's despicable and disgusting.

>> and some of those members of congress who stand behind former president trump are people hiding in fear on that day. ryan, something stood out this week from a specific case involving a j6 defendant, a federal judge took an extra step to condemn the normalization of the capitol attack during sentencing. tell us that story. >> it was sort of remarkable. that's judge royce lambert. he's basically trying to set people straight about what happened on january 6th. in this case, he actually ordered the court of the clerk to mail out his comments to every supporter of this january 6th defendant who had written into them. he's essentially setting the record straight, in another lifetime, he may have made a good journalist. he likes to set the record straight on them. he was explaining what they were saying in the letter is based on what the defendant was telling them was not true. he claimed that he was peaceful the whole time.

actually, everyday laid out explicitly that he was not peaceful. the defendant joined a push against officers, had a bull horn and was leading the charge against officers that day. there's video. there's plenty of evidence of this, but a lot of people sort of refused to recognize the real facts of what these cases were. those comments will be mailed out to the supporters of this defendant sort of laying out the evidence against him and what exactly the judge found. the judge said, listen, i don't send pleasure in sending someone to prison but this is exactly what happened. the jury found him guilty. he was charged with offenses. he could have taken a plea deal and gotten less time because the evidence was so overwhelming but he went the sovereign citizen route. claimed that he really wasn't subject to american law, sort of just tried to get himself out of the system and was not respectful of the court process and got a longer sentence of seven years in this case, when comparatively defendants who have taken plea deals have gotten a little bit of a shorter sentence.

it was quite a remarkable thing with judge lambert sending out the comments. he worries this a threat to the american future because there's such a disconnect between what happened on january 6th and with all of these politicians spreading a false narrative about the facts of what happened that day, chris. >> ryan reilly, rick tyler, thank you both. an example of what we have been talking about. a man in upstate new york has been charged with sending threatening messages to two key figures in donald trump's civil fraud trial. police say the man threatened to kill both the judge and new york attorney general letitia james. we are getting brand new details about the suspect and how he tracked the judge and the attorney general down. nbc's tom winter is following the case for us. what more do you have for us? >> this individual, tyler vogel is in police custody. we got to go back to sunday,

march 24th, 10:30 p.m. he paid for an online background check service to find the numbers belonging to the judge arthur engoron and the new york attorney general letitia james to be able to send them allegedly these threatening messages and that according to a press release and to a number of people that have direct knowledge of this case that we have been speaking with, basically here charged two counts, felony counts of terroristic threats, two counts of aggravated harassment. if he's convicted of one of the felony counts, he faces up to seven years in prison, and it's all as you alluded to, this civil case, and obviously what could happen with trump's bond, and whether or not if he wasn't able to, now we know that he has been able to, if he wasn't able to, would his buildings be taken from them. that was specifically referenced as part of the court process. this individual said something along the lines of look, if you send law enforcement after me,

i'm going to defend myself. as a result we're told for somebody that has viewed these documents that an extreme risk protection order has been entered. that's commonly referred to as a red flag law, chris, so temporarily the guns that he has have been confiscated and of course he remains behind bars. we'll have to see where this case goes. i am told that it is part of certainly a pattern of threats that have been made to individuals involved in the various new york cases, not all of which have resulted from charges, and something certainly that law enforcement officials here are quite concerned about. >> obviously not just in new york if you listen to some of the testimony of people who are involved in the case. tom winter, thank you. >> you got it. and still to come on "chris jansing reports." new video after the powerful earthquake in taiwan, and also moments of heroism. nurses springing into action to protect these newborns. plus, chef jose andres, demanding an independent investigation of the deadly israeli air strikes, we'll look at the evidence he says points

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. we are hearing firsthand accounts of survivors of the deadly earthquake in taiwan that killed at least ten and injured is -- 1,099 people.

as one man put it in an interview with taiwan central news agency, the mountains starting raining rockets like bullets. another man telling reuters he's lucky to be alive. moments after he was evacuated from an area deep in the mountains. his mother, hugging him in tears when they were reunited. saying she couldn't get in contact with him and was so worried she didn't eat or sleep all night long. officials estimate 705 other people are still trapped in the damage. world central kitchen is calling for an independent investigation into the deaths of seven of their workers insisting it's the only way to know if the israeli strike on their convoy was carried out intentionally. israeli officials say the initial investigation shows it was a mistake that followed a misidentification at night in very complex war conditions. but world central kitchen's founder, chef jose andres has categorically rejected those claims, arguing they aren't credible this this day and age.

>> non democratic country can be targeting civilians and humanitarians, especially the when technology today allows you to know things in ways that not long ago was not possible. those drones have eyes on everything that moves in gaza. i have been there. this is drones nonstop flying above you. there's nothing that moves that idf doesn't know. >> joining me now, nbc news and msnbc national security and intelligence analyst, marc polymeropoulos. also former chief of operations in europe and eurasia. it's always good to see you, mark. there's a lot to unpack here. i want to show people picture of the three cars. they're all white. you can see the roof of one clearly marked with a wck logo. should the idf have been able to use those drones, to see those

markings, and why wouldn't that have stopped them from carrying out this attack? >> well, chris, you know, i might not be really popular when i say this, but chef andre is not correct. this is a dynamic situation. just relying on what's called isr, drone footage, for such deconfliction is something that, you know, the technology is actually not there to understand that this was any convoy. what really seems to have gone wrong is first the deconfliction because the wck folks did tell the idf they're in the area. more importantly is the rules of engagement. so ultimately just relying on drone footage, on eyes in the sky to conduct this strike seems to me to be really disturbing, and frankly, it might be part of a pattern that the israelis are shooting first and asking questions later. i think the investigation is going to go along the rules of engagement, which to me and i think many others were quite flawed and the tragedy ensued.

the notion that the israelis would have been able to see in the sky at night in this dynamic environment is not entirely accurate. >> i want to go back to that and other things that chef andres had to say. that wasn't his only point of evidence. let's talk about the rules of engagement. "the new york times" pointed this out clearly today, one of the best equipped, best trained militaries in the world. but do they need to tighten those rules of engagement, especially given the fact, and benjamin netanyahu has never wavered from this. they have a mission that prioritizes the total elimination of hamas. >> right, chris, and i think, again, that's the point that i think is going to come out in the investigation. i think that's what a lot of u.s. military advisers who have been there have come back and said is that, you know, the israelis toleration of civilian casualties is frankly far greater than what the u.s. would tolerate. when you have local commanders on the scene, allow it to take

strikes based on a visual recognition of something. this is what you're going to get. the questions i have is were there a second set of eyes, any kind of red cell, you know, in these operations rooms, which authorize the strikes, and i think the answer is going to be no. and that's really a problem. this is not the way the u.s. conducts business. for example, i have some familiarity with this. accidents do happen. terrible tragedies happen. remember in kabul, after, you know, the terrible suicide bombing that killed 13 of our servicemen and women, we conducted a drone strike. it was a bad strike. it killed civilians. that's no excuse. the israelis owe the world an explanation, but ultimately this is something that comes down to rules of engagement, deconfliction or a terribly flawed process. >> i want to play a little bit more about what chef andres had to say about the actual strike. >> they were target systematically car by car.

they were able to escape. they were able to move in the second one. again, this one was hit. they were able to move in the third one. in the process, we know they were trying to cope but in the chaos of the moment, whatever happened, to try to be telling idf that why are they doing that. because they were not successful in hitting. they keep trying. this happened more than 1.5, 1.8 kilometers. this was not bad luck situation where, oops, we dropped a bomb in the wrong place or not. >> what does that tell you, just those facts and our folks have been on the ground as well, they have taken a look at those vehicles. is this a communications problem? jose andres says we were in contact. they knew that they were moving. what do you make of what he says there? >> i think clearly there was a

deconfliction error, and this is the israelis fault. let's be very clear on this. this is not the world central kitchen organization's fault whatsoever. the strike itself, when there was three vehicles, one was hit, then others in succession. i mean, these are the tactics and the practices that do occur, and so, you know, if it was a terrorist convoy, for example, this is what you would see and the israelis would be doing. the fact that they came around, struck the first vehicle, struck the other two in the expanded 1 1/2 mile range. that's not surprising. it was a tragic error. these were not hamas terrorists, they were heroic aid workers. >> first to mention, israel is very good at this in other environments, you saw them take a strike at damascus, iranian diplomatic compound where they had exquisite intelligence, human assets on the ground.

there was no collateral damage whatsoever. you know, meticulous strike, and so that can be done. that is planned certainly a different area of operations but the israelis, you know, a tale of two strikes. one that was done quite expertly, and one that was really a catastrophic disaster. >> marc polymeropoulos, thank you. we're now getting even more new details about president biden's call with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. as you know if you have been watching, it wrapped up just within the last hour or so. nbc's monica alba is reporting from the white house, and obviously, monica, what i was just talking to marc polymeropoulos about is the basis of that phone call, the first time those two men have talked since that deadly strike. what more do we know now? >> reporter: and now we're learning more details about what specifically the president pushed and asked the prime minister for. we understand that in terms of some of the immediate concerns, the president did ask the prime minister to let more humanitarian aid trucks into

gaza and to be less strict about what is on some of these trucks because that has been a part of the hangup and why it has been such a trickle when so much is needed. there is of course a review, an inspection process, and that is why sometimes just a handful of trucks are getting in on any given day when before the war started there were something like 500 trucks getting into gaza. you can imagine the fraction that does make its way in, and two, people who so desperately need it. that was one concrete step we're learning from u.s. officials who were briefed on the call, and then this other development, chris, is something we were talking about right after the call wrapped, the notable shift in the language around calling for an immediate cease fire, effectively telling the prime minister to accept the deal that's on the table for the release of the remaining hostages, and telling him, indicating to him, according to the officials we spoke with,

this has to happen in the near future and potentially as early as this weekend, and we are learning and can report that the cia director, bill burns is expected to travel overseas. he's been a critical person in those discussions, in those negotiations as we have seen these rounds and rounds go by without any actual deal and the hope is that this potential pressure could result in that. something else that was a really big headline, this question of if israel does not react to immediate changes to address specific concerns about protecting aid workers and allowing more aid into gaza, then the u.s. is saying that it will change its policy. what we understand from the conversations with officials is that the president, of course, is implying that he could condition military aid potentially to israel if they don't see sufficient enough change that would be satisfactory to the u.s. now, how is the biden

administration going to evaluate that? we understand from the briefing that's ongoing and from national security council spokesperson john kirby, they're going to be looking at that in the coming hours and days, so that is really a short-term, measurable way of determining that to see if israel is going to make a change that the u.s. says then will potentially provide a very specific shift that would be the most notable in changing u.s. policy during the six months of this war. chris. >> monica alba with those important details. thank you. and still to come this hour, attorneys for the man accused of murdering four idaho college students want a change of venue. the unusual survey they did in the community and why they say it's proof of bias.

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in just a couple of hours, lawyers for the man charged with killing four idaho college students will be in front of a judge to push for a change of venue. bryan kohberger's defense taken alleging public bias after conducting an unauthorized survey of the pro speculative jury pool. i don't think i have heard of a jury survey where the defense contacts dozens and dozens of local residents. how typical is this? >> yeah, it's not actually as atypical as you may think it is, chris. the big issue here and the

reason why there's such a big to do about it is because as you noted, it was unauthorized, right. there was a nondissemination agreement put in place, an agreement between the state and the defense that the judge had overseen. the defense took it upon itself to really skirt those rules. they made arguments for why they believe it wasn't in violation of the nondissemination agreement, but they hired this independent consulting firm, which they did note in their papers the state has used itself. there are these types of cottage industries out there that will do this type of polling. the issue here is that, again, the court had no idea about it. big no no to do it without the court's blessing. some residents even called the police, chris, when they were contacted by these consultants working for defense attorneys. >> let's talk about, you know, sort of the motivation behind it, which is obvious. in a high profile case that's

had broad news coverage, what is the standard for finding an unbiassed jury. it's not asking the question, have you ever heard of this case. >> you see motions like this all the time in high profile cases and they rarely win. the reason i think this case in particular mother nature a shot at winning is if you take, you know, for example, like a cosby case or even trump has made motions to change venue, those cases are really on the national stage in the spotlight, and although, chris, you know, we're covering it here on msnbc, this case, the idaho killer case has gotten sort of less national attention. not that it's gotten less national attention than many others but the attention that it's receiving in that specific venue, it's such a small community there in idaho that this may be the specific case that the defense wins to change venue, and the standard really is whether or not the defense

can get a fair trial, whether or not the jury pool is so tainted by so much information about the case that the defense can't get a fair trial, and i would note, chris, that this case in particular, there are a lot of sort of untruths out there. there's a lot of disinformation out there. which is what the defense is relying really heavily on in this motion here. >> caroline polisi, thank you. one of the largest heists in los angeles history, $30 million stolen out of a cash storage facility on easter sunday. the holiday heist is still a major mystery. here's what we know so far, burglars broke in through the roof, avoiding all of the building's alarms, and then vanished without a trace. they operated so stealthily that facility owners didn't even notice they had been robbed until the next day. the lapd along with the fbi are investigating. and now to the east and the late season nor'easter that is wreaking havoc, bringing floods,

snow, tropical storm force winds to millions. already we've seen 3,000 flight delays. take a look at this video from swamp scot, massachusetts, where coastal streets have been inundated. that water whipping against cars on their daily commutes and spraying out of the manhole in lynn. meteorologist michelle grossman is breaking it down for us. >> we have today, and we have tomorrow. we have been tracking the storm that brought severe storms, flooding, now bringing this heavy snow to portions of the interior parts of the northeast, and new england. 5 million people impacted by the storm, and we're talking upwards of 24 inches of snow in april. we have winter weather advisories, in the white for watertown, caribou, looking at snow still falling, and it's cold there. cold enough to snow. the winds are breezy at this point. we had winds gusting up to 70 miles per hour. we're going to see more power

outages. we have lots of power outage in the area. you see the pinks, purples, and blues. that's 6 inches, 9 inches in the purple. 12 is in the pink. and when the storm wraps up tonight into tomorrow, we're going to see upwards of 24 inches of snow. hoping to make the skiers happy. here's the area of low pressure. there's a big low pressure system here, one off the coast that's steepening and bringing in the cold air. that's why we're seeing this snow falling. you see the snow in the blue, the lighter, the white, portions of northern maine. that's where we're going to see the highest amounts and elevations there. now as we go further to the south, we're talking about the ohio valley into the mid-atlantic, the northeast, we're looking at scattered showers. we're not talking about severe weather like we did yesterday but still the chance of isolated showers, and we have soggy ground, so we're looking at flooding as well. where you see the brighter colors, yellows, reds, oranges, that's where the heavier

downpours are. you could see a heavier downpour in spots. lightning too in portions of central pennsylvania. it has a bit of energy to it. we're not done with the storm yet. we're going to continue to see the snow and wind in the interior parts, also in new england, and looking at scattered showers continues into the northeast. we're going to wrap up the week. by tomorrow, a low pressure system sitting, stalling, and spinning off the coast. that's going to bring more widespread snow showers, chilly and breezy with rain and also some snow. let's talk about our next chance of severe storms. that won't come until saturday. we get a little bit of a break. they wrapped up last night. we're severe weather free today in terms of tornadoes or storms. that comes back on saturday. we're looking at winds gusting 60 miles per hour. could see hail an inch or larger, tornado risk is low. it's not zero. we're talking about the central plains from broken bow to topeka on saturday. on sunday we're going to be severe weather free, and then by

monday, we're looking at another chance of severe weather. that's the eclipse day. dallas and shreveport could see strong storms on monday. we'll continue to track this for you. chris. >> michelle grossman, thank you. still ahead, a new study with depressing findings about female executives. we'll dig into the numbers next. . (bobby) my store and my design business? we're exploding. but my old internet, was not letting me run the show. so, we switched to verizon business internet. they have business grade internet, nationwide. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon.

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the former president losing his bid to dismiss his classified documents case. lisa rubin is following this for us. this is fast and furious, his third loss in 24 hours. tell us more about this ruling. >> this is one of the first losses before judge aileen cannon. in some ways, a significant one in the sense that she's saying at this stage, she is not going to dismiss counts 1 through 32 which charge willful retention in an unauthorized way. but what i want to point out to you and our viewers is actually the second part of this very short three-page order is far more significant because that's where judge cannon is saying to the extent that i asked both sides for jury instructions on the presidential records act issue that the president raised and to the extent the special counsel asked me to rule on that promptly, and exercise their

appellate rights i'm not going to do that. to the extent the special counsel demands an anticipatory, prior to a charge conference, that's where the jury instructions are hammered out between the parties and the judge, and prior to the presentation of trial defenses in evidence, the court declines that demand as, and here's the sort of thought that's worth the statement on tape, i guess, if it were oral, that really jumps out at me as unprecedented and unjust. she is calling the special counsel's demand here for a prompt ruling on the jury instructions unprecedented and unjust, and trying to justify her own actions saying look, this is a complex case of first impression, particularly where we're dealing with the collision of the presidential records act on one hand, and the espionage on the other. the two have never collided before as they do in this case, and if you're upset about this jack smith and team, you're always free to avail yourself. again, i'm reading from the order of whatever appellate

options you see fit to invoke as permitted by law. so when we talked yesterday about a potential writ of mandamus, that's an extraordinary appellate effort to get an appeals court to say to a judge, you must do this, where an issue is not eligible for appeal midway through a case, you might see the special counsel's office taking this order as the basis for seeking that writ of mandamus about judge cannon, and perhaps seeking her recusal here because for the first time in sharp language, she is showing a bias or prejudice against them, chris. >> it's unbelievable the language that both sides used in their various filings. lisa rubin, thank you for that breaking news. >> thank you. meantime, it is being called an alarming turning point for gender equality in corporate america. look at the graphic as it tells a jarring story. for the first time in nearly 20 years, the growth in women's representation among all senior leadership positions dropped.

this new study showing a long time trend reversed. and if we stay on this current track, female executives won't see gender equality inside top board rooms for more than half a century. i want to bring in nbc news senior business correspondent, christine romans. what exactly does this study say is happening here? >> it tells us that the top leadership positions in public american companies are held more by men than women and women lost 60 of those jobs in that year. that's an alarming turn of a trend. for 20 years, women have been gaining in the c suite, the big important jobs, difficult jobs running american companies at the top leadership levels and men now gaining more ground against women this these positions. and it's the first time you've seen the progress really stall here. >> do we know why, though? does this study come up with

reasons this is happening? >> they don't say specifically why but the authors of the study point out one thing in particular, waning focus on diversity and inclusion programs, and pointing out that this is right after the pandemic, this is when there's a return to workman date. women in many cases have the leadership roles, having to mandate people return to the office. there might be a lot of different things happening in the time period that you can explain, but it is difficult and it shows you that for as long as i've been covering business, we have been talking about getting better representation of women in these higher levels of management, and it's been very -- progress has been slow, and this shows an actual reversal. >> it trickles down when you have women at the top. >> it trickles down, the pipeline is narrow for many of these kinds of jobs anyway. there's been a lot of push on getting women in the pipeline to get leadership positions eventually. >> and for many of them, they have lost a mentor, they have

lost an example of what it can be. >> representation, right. >> christine romans, always good to see you. that's going to do it for us this hour, join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. is this a turning point in the war between israel and hamas? a moment where the u.s. stops giving unconditioning support to israel's war effort. president biden just got off the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. their first call since seven aid workers from world central kitchen were called. the white house says the president told bibi to make changes how he's waging the war, mitigate civilian harm, address the humanitarian suffering, ensure the safety of aid workers or risk losing u.s. support. secretary of