thank you so much for letting us into your homes for another week of shows. "the beat" with katie fang for ari starts right know. >> thank you. have a wonderful weekend, as always. good to see you. and to the rest of you, welcome to "the beat." i'm katie fang in for ari melber. another bad week for donald trump in court. facing a legal hurdles in three separate jurisdictions. as judges in the states of new york, georgia, and florida all rejected the former president's attempts to either dismiss or

delay the many criminal cases against him. now, we're about less than two weeks out from trump's first criminal trial. the new york election interference/hush money case. today, the judge denying jump's subpoena to get documents from nbc about stormy daniels. the judge ruling trump "has not shouldered the very heavy burden necessary to rifle through the privileged documents of a news organization." that wasn't the only blow to trump in new york this week. the judge expanding the partial gag order against him, and denying his presidential immunity claim. but trump is continuing to try his hand at more delay tactics. filing just about an hour ago a motion to recuse the judge, alleging a link between her daughter's company and campaign activity mentioning the case. the filing is really similar to the one that the trump team made last year, which the judge

denied. after he consulted the state's judicial ethics committee. we still anticipate that the case will move forward as scheduled with jury selection beginning on april 15th. and things don't look much better trump down in georgia, where the judge rejected trump's arguments to dismiss that rico case based on the first amendment. rebuking trump's assertion that his attempts to overturn the election were merely political speech. lastly, trump also rebuffed by florida judge, who was appointed by trump. she finally found the trump argument that she would. take at face value, at least not yet. her order reading in part -- the presidential records act does not provide a pretrial basis to dismiss. remember, this is what trump tried to assert. >> if you're the president of the united states, you can declassify by saying it's

declassified, even thinking about it. >> the judge's content has been questionable. she's come under fire for dragging her feet in setting a trial date, legal experts slamming her for being inexperienced. a former trump lawyer ty cobb predicting she could be removed from the case. >> the evidence is too overwhelming. yes, she may be incompetent. but at this stage in the game, her incompetence is so gross that i think it clearly creates the perception of partial itty. >> joining me now are my guests. your political colleagues are reporting on the tension that exists between judge cannon and

special counsel jack smith. i want to get your thoughts about that really, really short order that was entered by judge cannon yesterday. there's been a lot of controversy swirling on social media. i will add mitt i chimed in with my opinion about what needs to be done, but it seems to me that there was a very wylie, very scripted approach that judge cannon did to deny trump's motion to dismiss pursuant to the presidential records act, but leaving open a huge door that would allow her to basically get jack smith out of the way after a jury has been sworn in. >> you know, you used the word, katie, "wylie." that is not a world we usually associate with judge can ob. we just heard from ty cobb, she's incompetentincompetent. this was, i agree, wylie. she didn't make a decision about things that would otherwise be cause for appeal.

so she basically pump a situation in front of jack smith where she's telling him you have nothing to appeal, because i haven't made a decision yet about the presidential records act. i haven't made a decision about what the law is going to be in front of the jury, what the jury instructions are going to look like. i'm going to really take my time to consider that. i might wait until the trial starts when it's too late for you to appeal, when you can't appeal if, for example, donald trump is found not guilty. very wylie. >> dave, i want to stay on this, because it's really important for everybody to understand, judge cannon is setting land mines, isn't she? this idea that double jeopardy attaches once the jury gets sworn in. the jury could acquit donald trump. the judge could administer a judgment of acquittal and let donald trump walk free out of that courtroom. what's the resource available for jack smith at this juncture? >> jack smith is in legal

purgatory. it's too early to appeal. both sides are supposed to engage in the jury instructions, so he can't appeal that yet. he can try to recuse her from this case, but that's hard to do. he may try to do perhaps a motion which says let's prevent donald trump from bringing up this argument at trial. that could preclude it being involved in the jury instructions. but that would have to be in the form of a motion, and judge can op would have to set the motion and decide on the motion, and then they could appeal. so there's a lot of hoops he has to jump through. so it's a tough time for jack smith. you could tell in the snarky tone he has in his pleading. you can imagine he's had enough of eileen cannon. >> a lot of us have. i want to go to you about this last-minute filing on a friday afternoon from donald trump in the manhattan d.a.'s prosecution of him. april 15th, right around the corner, my friend. it is not like he's got a lot of

time, but this motion to recuse alleges that the judge's daughter's company, because it does work for democrats, that that in and of itself is grounds to be able to get him off the case. but then at the end of the filing, donald trump says, but you know what? it's not a requirement to recuse yourself, then you should do it because of an appearance of impropriety. but a judge is different from a prosecutor. your thoughts on this motion to recuse? >> you know, just like it's difficult to recuse judge cannon, it's also going to be very, very difficult here for trump to win on this. i think trump knows that. i think trump knows that, and i think he filed it when he did in order to have a full weekend of people talking about this, because merely talking about the motion repeats his talking points. this is about delay. this is about him trying to, you

know, dirty up the judge, throw mud at the judge, like he did in the civil fraud trial. just like he's done elsewhere. he's trying to essentially, you know, put what he can and paint with a broad brush, because ultimately, the judge's daughter doesn't have an interest in this particular case. you know, in the reality, the work she's done for separate candidates and separate causes really have nothing to do with this particular criminal matter. so i don't think that this is going to be granted. i don't think it's going anywhere. but of course, it's going create a lot of fodder for social media. >> dave, let's talk about this. you want everyone to have a situation without the appearance of impropriety. but because your daughter or family member has anti-trump biases, that in and of itself is the basis. and even though her company may make money by supporting or doing work for democratic candidates, how is that close to being legal grounds for someone like a judge off the case, when,

as i noted, there's no evidence that his impartiality has been sullied in any way so far? >> trump is under a gag order where he cannot attack the daughter of the judge. >> but he's doing that. >> that's my point. >> he's trying to end run this gaggle. >> he's doing it in the form of legal pleadings. so that's why he's doing it. it continues his grievance, which motivates his base. it also delays matter further. if you adopt a standard that you recuse any judge for an appearance of impropriety, then judge cannon is gone because the defendant is someone who appointed thor the bench. >> clarence thomas is gone because of the actions of his wife. >> the standard is much higher. is there a substantial bias here, is there an interest that is substantially affected by the outcome of this case? you know, there's nothing to show that they did. so i think this is going nowhere, but he wins by losing by delaying matters further. but in this case, the judge is not going to put up with it.

>> i just want to stay on this case for a second, because april 15th around the corner when jury selection starts. do you think this ends up being an issue for jury selection? not necessarily a sympathetic jury cool out there for donald trump in new york county, but is there a concern if you're alvin brag's office that all of this publicity ends up being an issue when it comes to jury selection? >> i think so. and i think that's part of the reason that trump is doing this. let's face it, even though you're right, that most people in manhattan are not voting for donald trump, some probably did. there are 10%, 15% of people who did, and you just need one juror to create a hung jury. so of course, this is not only going to potentially help trump, but it's also going to make it more complicated. it just needs into the point that trump is making, which is

this is all political exercise. everyone is as arrayed against him, you're either with him or against him, his way of viewing the world. that's not how our justice system works. >> as the three of us know as prosecutors, you're either guilty or not. thank you both for being here. good to see you. coming up, why some gop lawmakers are getting subpoenaed in a criminal can probe looking at the failed 2020 coup. and also, we have bill nye the science guy, breaking down monday's solar eclipse. and we'll explain what's wrong with this picture, beyond the obvious. back in 90 seconds. s. back in 90 seconds [street noise] [car door shuts] [paparazzi taking pictures] introducing, ned's plaque psoriasis. ned, ned, who are you wearing? he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see

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to overturn the 2020 election results. and they may have reason to worry. politico reporting that the state's attorney general has "cast a far wider net in her probe than previously understood." prosecutors in georgia, nevada, and michigan have already brought charges against trump fake electors involved in the plot. but so far, lawmakers have skirted by. despite ample evidence that many of them were involved in the plans. take texas senator ted cruz. last year, "the beat" obtained recordings of him talking about plans to deny certification on the 6th.

>> it's unbelievably crystal clear in his own words. and there's also wisconsin senator ron johnson, who tried to have his aide hand fake lector info to mike pence on january 6th. according to text messages uncovered during the investigation. at the time, senator johnson denied involvement, but new documents show the senator's office was told information about the fake elector's scheme. we'll continue to keep you updated on just how far these probes expand. joining me now is lea litman, law professor, and bill crystal. my thanks to both of you. bill, i would love to start with you. i want to get your thoughts on this. this is very interesting that you've got the arizona attorney general saying her net is far wider than we have known publicly. >> i'm happy they're going up the ladder, finally.

the justice department did a good job locking up hundreds of people who assaulted the capitol. the people donald trump calls hostages, unfairly persecuted, who he's going to pardon. 27 of 229 people in the d.c. jail are about to be convicted for assaulting capitol police. these are wonderful people trump is promising to pardon. but we failed as a company about getting above that level, right? who's gone to jail? who's been held accountable? finally, maybe donald trump, maybe will go to trial for january 6th 3 1/2 years after what happened happened. and we have some states attorneys general trying to look into this. but it's not been a success story of accountability in my view. >> but justice is slow, the wheels of justice turn slowly. so lea, i want to know your thoughts from a legal lens of the fact that they're being

subpoenaed, which is not an admission of criminal liability. but you heard what we just played for our viewers. there's some direct evidence of involvement by congressional lawmakers in january 6th. a lot of us have been frustrated to bill's point, that it seems like nothing has been done, and the boots on the ground have the ones facing accountability. does the fact that these subpoenas keep on rolling out give us some hope that the judicial system may actually work in this instance? >> i mean, it's something, but i think it's little more than that. because already in the georgia probe, you know, georgia prosecutors have already subpoenaed and gotting senator graham to testify. and yet still that proceeding has not actually resulted in any real accountability for some of the higher up political officials who are behind the ins gagss to pervert legal processes to do what the rioters were doing, interfering with the transition of power. so it's frustrating to watch the

disparity in the lower level prosecutions, while seeing the political officials using political and perverted legal means accomplish the same end, and largely skate by with no accountability thus far. >> and you know, bill, i have to ask you, because to your well-taken point, maybe accountability, it means different things to different people. but why is it the fact that the only people that are doing the time for the crime are the lower level participants? why is it, though, that they continue to pledge allegiance to the cult of trump? >> i mean, some don't. i do think there's been a deterrent effect of convicting a lot of these lower level people. there have not been those kind of riots. kari lake lost in arizona, she says it was stolen. but there hasn't been any violence. so i suspect the justice department prosecutions have deterred people from showing up and trying to do the same thing at the same level.

we'll see about 2024, obviously. but yeah, it really is -- it's amazing how much people are on board. look, people takes serious the promise to pardon. so for people looking at federal trails, jump is promising to pardon and release them, which is an ultimate perversion of justice, and he's running on that. he's not just saying, i think they're being a little harshly. he's running on the fact that they have been unjustly prosecuted in the january 6th case. >> bill's point is, if you're being prosecuted and convicted on a state level, you're not going to be pardoned by donald trump, because it's a state crime. but it is 2024. we are in april squarely. three years after the insurrection. there has to be a statute of limitations when it comes to the prosecution of some of these offenses. what is the continuing delay? we know that there has been,

from a very early stage, merit garland, the doj, doing its leg work, and now we have a lot of attorneys, like fani willis, doing the leg work, and now the states attorneys general are doing the leg work. isn't there a fear that we're kissing up on november 2024, and there is a repeat of january ofth in 2025. >> pursuing the lower level offenders first never made sense, because these were not case where is you could get lower level defendants to flip on, you know, the president of the united states, and then explain what the president's role in the process was. he was doing it out in the open. you needed the cooperation of lawmakers. and that has been slow to come. at the same time, when different state and prosecutors have attempted to impose accountability, whether civilly

or criminally on the former president and his accomplices, they have seen the former president and his allies being able to run out the clock and use different delay tactics and mobilize the prospect of political violence against people who are trying to enforce the law against him. that has been a counterdeterrent and frustrating for political officials who are trying to enforce the law and impose some kind of accountability, seeing donald trump successfully use judges like eileen cannon or use the supreme court in the immunity case to give him delay and essentially run out the clock and let him run for president without there ever being a trial on the very serious accusations related to january 6th. >> you know, bill, she gives me the perfect segue to ask you, i hang my hat on the fact that there's lawyers that have been enablers, as somebody who respects the value of my bar, it's a privilege to practice law. there are lawyers that are the enablers that allow trump to make those crazy arguments, that

allows trump to go to defend himself in the actions that he's taking. these are people that were architects of the fake elector scheme. does that -- they're the middlemen in some way, so does that show that there is maybe the accountability that we're seeking, the fact that it's not just the boots on the ground that we talked about, but people are enabling it in a credibility way to donald trump? >> john eastman was disbarred in california last week. >> john clark on his well there. >> yeah, 3 1/2 years later. it was very much in our mind, the people in watergate, they went to jail. john dean, halderman, there were these ethics laws, the rule of law. you cannot just use the fbi to investigate -- not that i could do it, but other people couldn't use the fbi to investigate political opponents. and there will be accountability. we felt the system will hold not

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this year marks the first time we've seen trump as a candidate who we already know has tried to overturn an election. and who has been explicit about running as an authoritarian anti-democratic threat. that alone should make a huge difference. many critics say that the press coverage has fallen back into a traditional horse race mindset, bending over backwards to give balanced coverage to joe biden and donald trump. cnn recently asking is biden's age now a bigger problem than trump's indictments? i have to laugh, and last fall "the new york times" offering this strangely tepid headline, trump takes veteran speech in a very different direction, to describe comments which trump used language that echoed hitler. >> we pledge to you that we will

root out the communists, marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. >> trump vowing to attack the vermin within. that's the same kind of rhetoric used by fascists in 1930s europe. "the times" later revised their headline. "the times" sparking outrage for how it covered the michigan primaries, which biden did better with democrats than much did with republicans. saying biden faced a significant challenge while trump coasted to victory. so the urge to find nuance in trump leads to some very odd results like an article that dove deep into the all-important topic of trump's mar-a-lago

spotify play list. axios calling it a row seta stone that demystifies how his mind works. and describing how guests are compliments his ear for music, and trump likes to marvel at the sound quality of his stereo system. that image of trump, by the way, is the image that they created. so the question is -- how should we cover a candidate who has already tried to overturn one election, and who is vowing to persecute and imprison his political enemies? joining me now is molly fast for "vanity fair," and suzy careen, director of the enemies of the people documentary about trump's attacks on the media. she also hosts the podcast "in retrospect." ladies, good to have you here. this is a really important conversation. i'm so glad we're having this. molly, what's normal about election coverage?

i don't think coverage in general has ever been normal when it comes to donald trump, but is there a rush to lean to compensate for the peer we're looking like we have this bias against him that the normalization of it has become a disaster, as we have seen? >> part of the problem with traditional political coverage is that there is a traditional framing, right? you cover a campaign in a specific way. you cover one campaign, you sort of have false equivalencies. they're kind of baked into the coverage. what happens when you do coverage like that is you elevate the non-democratic candidate. because there's no place to say, wow, because by comparing the normal candidate, the democratic candidate, the candidate who follows all this sort of political norms, you elevate this other candidate. you sort of forgive -- forgive his authoritarianism. the right has worked it really hard, so every time, you know, a

supposedly nonpartisan journalist is writing a story, they're saying, am i seeming too left? i must balance. so that is sort of the problem. the reality is, we have to just cover the stakes and not the odds. we have to write about what a trump -- a second trump presidency would look like, jailing opponents, everything. we have to take him seriously and literally. >> so suzy, that is the threading of the needle that is so hard. it's this idea that i think when you attempt to overturn an election, a lawful election, that in and of itself should be a disqualifier for you. you shouldn't deserve to get any space in traditional media, right? but in a way, we have an obligation to highlight, to molly's point, what he promises to deliver if he makes it to a second term in the oval, what that looks like under a second term of donald trump. >> yeah, that's really important, because he doesn't need to have media access the

way he did in 2016. they don't need to put him online or in front of a camera and say just go for hours at a time. but i do think the voting public does deserve to see him and does deserve to see exactly how he expresses himself, but also, you know, there's a lot of talk about biden's age and verbal stumbles. if you watch a trump rally, you're going to see just as many verbal stumbles, and weird sort of asides. he'll call nikki haley nancy pelosi. he'll stop mid sentence and won't know what he's talking about. so i do think it's important for people to see him, but the choices we make about how we show him, what context we put around that, how much we explain the stakes as you're saying, that's what is really important here. >> but molly, there's a difficulty in that, right? because you don't want to amplify, and that's something we're very aware of. i try hard on my show not to show him as much in some unfettered way. but how do you not -- how do you not continue to try to show and

really kind of amplify how dangerous he is as an autocrat, as a fascist, somebody who is going to deliver injustice if he makes it back? >> the most important thing is you say a lie is a lie. when he says something is not true, you say it's a lie. so you do a truth sandwich. you say donald trump said, immigrants are vermin. that is an autocratic thing that dehumanizes a person to do terrible things to them. we know what that word is. you know, it's never -- it never leads anywhere good. so that's what you do. you have to just couch each lie in truth. it is your responsibility. what i think is interesting, in 2016, trump ran sort of so much free media, that he was everywhere, right? and he didn't even really need to spend money, because he got so much free media. this time he's not getting the same kind of media coverage, but

in some ways, it's dangerous too, because you're not seeing all of the slip-ups and also all of the really scary promises. >> so suzy, you have an interesting documentary called "enemies of the people." i want to play a quick clip of it. take a listen. >> george orwell said it best, to see what is in front of your nose demands a constant struggle. >> we are in a world of entertainment. it is political entertainment. >> everything they believe was wrong. >> it needs to be a ruthless accounting of the history if we are going to learn anything from it. >> id neats to be a ruthless telling, is what they say. so have we learned from the mistakes? has media learned from the mistakes they made before? >> that was an opportunity to talk to a number of leading journalists about the 2016 election. many of them did admit to mistakes. they relied on polls too much. they didn't take him seriously at first.

they sort of, you know, treated him like a fund oddity in the beginning. they gave him this access to airtime. so they do admit that they made mistakes. and i would love to say that none of those mistakes are happening this time around. but as katy tur says in that clip, it's very hard to see what's happening in front of you. so despite that reflection that they did in 2017, when i filmed those interviews, we're seeing the same kind of false equivalence. if you look at the age conversation, it's similar to the conversation around hillary clinton's emails. and what happens when the media is desperate to be balanced, so they have to find something bad to say about the opposing candidate every time one of trump's, you know, scandals comes up, is that the message sticks much more to the other candidate. the only thing to talk about with hillary was her emails. so that's the message that stuck on her, and you couldn't figure out what was supposed to stick

with trump. now it's like you're being inundated with headlines. biden's aim is a problem, his memory is abesieged by donald trump. we can't think of something else other than joe biden's age, so we just default that's just a thing we cannot do this time around. >> less than 30 seconds, but say something for us. >> the age thing, it's so funny, because it's like, okay, there was all this age hysteria. then he did the state of the union where he was as brilliant as he's ever been, and he was back and forth, off the script. and he was great. his age is fine. and there really does -- biden re -- and they do it, they have him out there, pushing back. but people just need to see him, because he's really fine, and this is really a sort of cooked

up false equivalency. i think it's the same as the emails, or remember when hillary was sick and they did a whole thing. it's just -- it really is a strawman. >> when trump speaks, it's either unintelligible or racist. molly, suzy, thank you both for being here for this important conversation. still ahead, bill nye is here to talk eclipses, earthquakes, and this iconic fashion spread. but first, biden slam dunking after a strong jobs report while trump's money problems just getting worse. t getting worse. if you're living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills. good to go off the grid. good to go nonstop. with cabenuva, there's no pausing for daily hiv pills. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. it's two injections from a healthcare provider. just 6 times a year.

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it's awesome. [music playing] millions are gearing up for a rare total solar eclipse that will sweep across north america on monday. the last one landed in 2017, but this will be the longest one since 2009. nasa estimates over 31 million people live in what's known as the path of totality, where the total eclipse will be visible with millions more living in areas where they'll be able to see a partial eclipse.in areas where they will be able to see a partial eclipse. many across the country are feeling the frenzy. >> excitement is growing from monday's total solar eclipse. >> it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. >> 4 million people are expected to travel. >> one couple in maine said they want to get married during

the eclipse. >> it felt like the biggest party in the world and how could you celebrate your wedding in a bigger way? >> reporter: teachers have been creative coming up with different activities for students. >> don't look up without your glasses. >> somebody tell donald trump that. the next eclipse is not expected to hit until 2045 and i have the perfect guest to talk all things eclipse and joining me now is bill nye the science guy and the iconic covers start of timeout new york answering all of our burning questions and we will get to that cover in a minute, but i want you to explain to us the science behind an eclipse what makes this so special? >> it is going right over north america and mexico, u.s. canada . so i did here the number 31 million and i think it is

closer to 40 or 45 million people will be able to see this. so, what happens is we have a moon and sun and the earth. the moon gets between us and the sun and the extraordinary thing about being an earthling and living here on this planet is our satellite, the moon, and i love this world it blocks the same with of sky as the sun and the sun is 400 times farther away than the moon but the moon is one for hundreds of the whiteness of the sons of this remarkable event causes this event where this darkness crosses the continent faster than airliner flies so it is a spectacular thing. i do encourage everybody, if you can, and most of us live in the eastern time zone here in north america but if you can, get in the path of totality.

now, on either side of the path there will be a partial eclipse but from experience a partial eclipse isn't all that different from a very cloudy day. so it is cool and enjoy it, but if you can get in the past, that is great and everybody, please, where your protective eyewear. because what happens is this goes on for an hour and a half or so and the disk of the moon is blocking the disk of the sun and you just want to stare at it and watch it and that is how you can hurt your eyes. everybody, probably, has looked at the sun or tried to catch a fly ball in the outfield and you looked at the sun for a moment that you don't want to stare at it. these glasses, made of only cardboard and mylar plastic are

enough. they are about 100,000 times darker rather than regular sunglasses. it is a very important thing and they are available all over the place. >> while i have you here i want to ask about this earthquake and it was a 4.8 magnitude earthquake and it was in the northeast from new york all the way up and some people said on social media they felt it up in vermont and moments ago the us geological survey confirmed a 4.0 magnitude aftershock here. talk a little bit about what this is and it is so rare to have this happening on the east coast? >> aftershocks are very common and i don't make the rules. new york and long island sit on this big north american tectonic plate but nevertheless it has cracks and faults and fissures. and something was going on to cause it to shift and it is

quite common to slip and shift and then slip again later on. i wouldn't be surprised if the energy that caused this really came from way out west like from a plate that hits against the pacific plate out near portland and oregon and seattle and yellowstone. that would not shock me. of course, the analysis would shock me but that's not what happened but a bump or ripple or waive in the world or word you like is plastic or the magma below the solid rock or gives a wiggle and that makes this wiggle and new york wiggles. but, manhattan and places like that with this old robust steel structures riveted together is pretty good but you get fences

and stone structures and walls and bricks start falling and in 2011 we had an earthquake further south and the washington monument got so shook it had to be shut down for three years before got repaired. people out west and i have been through a lot of earthquakes, they may pooh-pooh this but if your structures aren't ready for, it could be trouble. as we say, earthquakes don't hurt people, buildings do and this is an old saying. if there really is another earthquake, we do recommend to everybody if you aren't in a big steel structure to get outside and get away from the buildings for those few seconds and it's easy to say and hard to do. >> i agree. i am run at a time by inviter viewers to check out that timeout magazine cover and photographs spread and you are

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