>> that does it for me today, stare you are, there's much more news coming up on msnbc. stomach six months into the war, what we know about their next moves, and what it could mean for aid organizations

trying to save lives. former journalist and aide worker is here, plus, reporting you will only see on ayman, shocking claims about the conditions facing palestinian prisoners , and there's a new film on msnbc about cancel culture, and the chilling effect it is having on the american public. comedian judy gold on the cultural phenomena and what happens when comedians are caught up in it. let's do it. msnbc today marks six months of the israel hamas war, and every day new video emergence of the devastating and heartbreaking reality for people on the ground. in exclusive footage from last month published and edited by al jazeera and obtained by nbc news, we see what appears to be men targeted by israeli forces as they tried to grab lifesaving aid. a warning to our viewers, what you're about to see is

disturbing. in the first few seconds of this video, we see men running together aid that is being dropped in northern gaza. we see them pulling supplies out of the box or a crate. in the next scene we see a shot strike the ground near them. a few seconds later another shot hits the ground. according to reporting, this scene shows israeli forces in position. we then see one man runaway. he appears to be shot and falls to the ground. it looks like he is repeatedly shot at as he struggles to get away. he manages to slowly stand up for he succumbs to his wound and drops again to the ground. he lies there as he continues to be targeted by shots. the man is eventually left to die with his body left to the dogs that are circling him. the israeli military has not yet responded to nbc news request for comments specifically about this video. this comes as israel comes under increased scrutiny after an israeli air strike killed seven world kitchen aid

workers. since its founding in 2010 by chef jose andres, they have turned about some of the globe's biggest disasters and crises providing life-saving food to people in need. after this deadly attack of the relief group has paused their efforts in gaza. the israeli military opened an investigation into their killings and has now dismissed two officers, it has reprimanded three others for their role in these drone strikes aimed at the wck aid convoy. world central kitchen and the families of the victims have called for an independent investigation, and secretary of state antony blinken echoed those calls on friday. today on abc this week, chef jose andres said, the perpetrator cannot be investigating himself. here's more of what he had to say. >> civilians must be protected. humanitarian organizations must be protected. they are people that have names

and last names, people that matter. they cannot be voiceless, they cannot be ghosts of wars that don't make sense. obviously, idf has a lot of questions to ask themselves. what exactly are they there for? are they there really to bring home, safely, those hostages that still are suffering? >> according to the united nations much hundred 24 humanitarian aid workers have been killed since the start of this war, and if it is this deadly for aid workers, think about the conditions for palestinians who depend on those organizations right now to survive. people like the man who you saw in that video, simply losing their life while they were just trying to get food for them and their families. joining me now to discuss this, the president and founder of inara, a nonprofit organization that has been providing life- saving aid to the people of gaza and elsewhere in the region. she found this organization after witnessing the suffering of children in war zones during her time as a senior

international correspondent, where i had the privilege of calling her a colleague. she's also a dear friend. it is great to see you, i know that you've made it into gaza, you've spent a lot of time reporting around the world in war zones before, before we get to the nonprofit side of all of this and the work you are doing, talk to us about what you're seeing on the ground today, and how that compares to the pastimes you have traveled there as a journalist. >> it doesn't compare. you've had loads of experience on the ground, this is like nothing that we've ever seen before. just the sheer scale and magnitude of all of it. when you get here especially in the southern part, rafah is so crowded, you really feel as though the misery, the desperation, the sorrow, it's jumping out and grabbing you in the throat, and at the same time you can't help but be in awe of the people here to a certain degree, for merely surviving for this long.

you have these tents that are set up everywhere, on every single street corner along the beach in the sand, there is no sewage, no toilets, no proper humanitarian assistance, and there's flies everywhere, mothers that will rush up to you with limp and listless babies, people are asking for everything from diapers to baby powder, sanitary napkins, people are worried about the mental health of their children, and talking about the israeli withdrawal from some areas, for example. shortly after that was announced, i was at a medical field clinic, and bodies began arriving, there were bodies the people had been able to dig out from the rubble, people that had been killed about a week ago. and you just realized the tragedy of all of this and how it's impacting everybody, and

while we were there, more bodies were coming into this particular location, and one of the palestinian medical workers there was sobbing in a corner because one of the bodies who had been brought in was someone who she knew. this tragedy just keeps hitting everybody, every single day, from every single different aspect of one's existence. >> let me ask you about the work right now that needs to be done. after the attack on the world central kitchen, several aid organizations including inara expert suspended their operations because it was so dangerous. i have you decided to keep working despite the fact that other aid groups have stopped doing so, you gone into gaza at a time when others are considering coming out. >> so i got in two days after the attack on the world central kitchen, i have to say, coming in we were a group of humanitarians, and everyone was talking about this, everyone was extraordinarily anxious,

myself included. when you're in the space as a journalist, you expect a certain level of fear and anxiety, especially because we tend to go toward where the danger is. i wasn't quite expecting to have that not in my guts, to the degree that it actually was there, being here as a humanitarian worker, when it comes to what inara is doing, all our staff is local, and i was talking to some of them about what it was that kept them going, and they said, these are our people. we have to keep going for them, because we don't have a choice, and if we're not going to do it and who actually is? one can't negate the impact that the world central kitchen and some of these other organizations causing their operations is having. it's causing more people to go hungry, and when it comes to the need a lot of people are asking about that. it's very difficult to pinpoint what the need is, because it's so vast, people need everything. literally, everything.

some of these scenes that i'm seeing, i'm seeing it, i'm witnessing it and i still cannot put it into a sentence with what i'm seeing on the streets or what i've seen in these hospitals that i've been able to go to. >> can you talk a little bit about the aid right now, how is aid coming in? we know it's not even coming in in anywhere nearly the supply that is needed to meet the demands of the people on the ground, but from the way that your organization is operating and what you're able to see on the ground, how is aid getting in, and why do you believe not and of aid is getting in? is a lot of finger-pointing going around, the israelis say they let everything in the can, it's hamas that is taking this aid, aid organizations are saying that is not true, they are prevented from getting to the places they need to and supplies are being rerouted israel and that slows the process. what are you seeing as an organization operating on the ground in gaza? >> this is how a truck gets

into gaza at the moment. around 95 if not 99% of trucks. they get searched in israel. so if a truck is able to go from israel, then it crosses straight into gaza. if a truck is coming from egypt, it goes from egypt into israel, gets searched, then crosses back to egypt and goes through the rafah crossing. the trucks that are trying to go through, they can take two to three weeks to be able to get in. the thing is they are both in the far south of the gaza strip. these massive trucks come in and then they get offloaded into warehouses, and they get loaded to smaller trucks for delivery. how are trucks able to get to where they need to be? the whole process called deconfliction needs to happen, that's where another roadblock exists. a lot of aid organizations will tell you that this deconfliction process is lengthy, and is effectively not working to even be the barest

of minimum extents. you end up having to alter your route or end up having to hold up your convoy for whatever reason after that, the roads are incredibly clogged and when you get on location there is such panic because there is so little that often, it's complete chaos, it's very hard to control a desperate crowd that believes it is only getting limited supply. on top of all of that, no, not enough trucks are getting, not nearly enough trucks. we're also talking about the southern part of the gaza strip, not even about the north, even though the israelis have tried and tested a route that allowed one or two convoys to go along this military road straight into the north. there is talk of erez crossing which would be straight into the north that cause people in the south to talk about how they potentially had hope that their fellow gazans up north would be able to finally get something to eat, but the bottom line is, everything is not getting in, and the holdup is, most of the time, because

the israeli side is not allowing access and is not speeding up the process. >> we saw in the case of the world central kitchen and with others, the deconfliction allowed them to transmit their coordinates to the israelis and that was not enough to protect them and keep them safe. we're almost out of time, but i know you're working to raise up to $2 million with your organization to prepare for the years long mental and medical health needs of the children of gaza and elsewhere. what more does your organization need and if there are viewers that want to help, what can they do? >> it's amazing whoever can donate, donate at our website, inara.org/gaza, and in terms of long-term care that children are going to need, these are children that have burn injuries, blast injuries, and amputations. i was at the one remaining functioning hospital yesterday, and it's bed after bed of children who have been injured, amputated, who have horrific, horrific burn injuries. i even saw a 10-year-old boy

who was basically on life support. he had been shot in the head by a sniper, his father said. there are other children, absolutely catastrophic conditions, and we know from experience and we know from the doctors we're talking to that these children are going to need these years of medical and mental health support, and that's what we're focusing on it hoping to be able to pledge for all of them. >> my friend live in gaza for us, thank you so much for everything you're doing, please stay safe and we'll talk to you throughout all of this, thank you. next, the palestinian american doctor who protested the president by walking out of a meeting with the president, he is here to join us live, next. . stop! save with drivewise and get a rate based on you. you're in good hands with allstate.

infused with vitamin b3 and hyaluronic acid, i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪♪) if you spit blood when you brush, it could be the start of a domino effect. new parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. a new toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts.

business. it's not a nine-to-five a ne proposition.from it's all day and into the night. it's all the things that keep this world turning. the go-tos that keep us going. the places we cheer. and check in. they all choose the advanced network solutions and round the clock partnership from comcast business. see why comcast business powers more small businesses than anyone else. get started for $49.99 a month

plus ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. don't wait- call today. stomach you might have heard about the small group of muslim american community leaders who met with president biden at the white house to discuss the israel hamas war, only six people agreed to attend and five minutes in, one of those

leaders walked out in protest. the palestinian american physician has treated gravely ill patients in gaza, he told nbc news he wanted the administration to feel how his community has felt since the war began. he had of the president a letter from an eight-year-old orphan in rougher, that child wrote, i beg you, president biden, stop them from entering rafah. he is a member of med global, also on the board of it and regionally volunteered at the hospital in gaza. it's great to have you with us, thank you for joining us. first of all, tell us why you decided to walk out of that meeting with the president, why did you think leaving would be more impactful than sharing your input on biden's handling of the war, for example. >> it was simple for me, i come from a community of palestinian american, muslim american, and for the last six months we've

been devastated by what's been going on in gaza, and for six months we've been screaming at the top of our lungs, trying to get anybody to listen to us about the devastation has taken place. we know in intimate detail what's going on in gaza, we see the pictures of the starving children in the north, we see the parents grieving over their children. we see the grandfather keeping the earring for his granddaughter who was killed in an air strike. i needed to walk away from this meeting because i needed to leave an impact and an impression, because our words haven't been getting through. the way we've been trying to engage and communicate hasn't worked. there are 33,000 killed palestinians in the process. i really wanted to leave an impression on the president to let him know a tone of urgency, a tone of anger, and a tone of grieving and let him know that this is how this entire community is feeling. not just in the united states but abroad in the middle east, and everywhere in the world paying attention to us. what's going on there is absolutely horrific, and i got to witness that first hand, i

really wanted to feel what we were talking about and why we are so upset. >> one of the things that struck me about this meeting is, you said in another interview, i want to make sure that i get this correctly, this is the first time president biden was briefed directly by people who had been in gaza since october 7th. how do you know that, and tell us what does that symbolize to you as someone who recently spent seven weeks volunteering at a hospital in gaza? how do you know that you were the first briefing that the president had with somebody directly from gaza? >> that was how it was billed to us, instead of the traditional, in lieu of that we were going to do a working when we pushed back and we said, really that doesn't seem appropriate to be talking about the famine in the north and the lack of food getting in and starving palestinians, to be doing that over soup and salad, so we were told this is an opportunity, and intimate chance to sit with the president and be able to brief

him on what you saw. you would be among the first people who have been on the ground since october 6th. this really was a surprise, because we, here, we are stuck with hearing john kirby and other spokes piece will talk about the situation and talk about the humanitarian crisis. if the president hasn't spoken to people who have been on the ground, humanitarian relief workers, how can he get a true understanding of what's taking place? what many of us are suspecting and what has been the case is what they're hearing about the humanitarian situation is coming from the israelis themselves. if there's any indication over the last six months that the israelis are getting an accurate and objective assessment over what's taking place in gaza, all you have to do is look at what's taking place but the explanations for the world central kitchen attacks. that's not a reliable source, that's something i said explicitly. anybody does trying to give you an idea of what's happening in northern gaza, southern gaza, in rougher, they are not telling you the truth. i know that source is the

israelis and i expanded on that and said, if they're telling you they can evacuate somehow palestinians in rougher safely to another area and conduct a military operation, they are misleading you and going to lead us into a bloodbath, that's something we have to draw a redline about. and i handed him the letter and walked away from the meeting. >> why did you decide to get in the letter and what more can you tell us about what people in gaza were saying to you about america and america's position throughout this war, the attitudes of palestinians in gaza about this? >> i was at the hospital, as it was being leveled by the israeli military. this is probably in the western part, military operations started in the eastern area, and it slowly crept up to the perimeter of the hospital. while we were being surrounded by the israeli military and tanks were near the cemetery near the hospital, the doctors and nurses asked the same question. two people know that this is what's happening here?

do they know that hospitals are being ransacked and rated, that surgeons, are being abducted and his whereabouts are unknown? are people okay with what's taking place? that's part of the reason i wanted to send that letter to the president, i think for so long there has been a dehumanization of the palestinian people. some reason, our blood is not the same value of people anywhere else. i'm not trying to compare different conflicts or struggles, but i look at the rhetoric from the state department with respect to ukraine, and their rhetoric when it comes to gaza. people are asking, do they not realize we're human like everybody else? i told people i would be meeting with president biden and said, what messages do you have for him? some had colorful messages but many said we want our kids to grow up. >> how did the president respond, overall, to your letter, your commentary, what was his reaction, what was his demeanor? >> he was looking at the picture, i gave him and on the back that it had her letter.

he stared at it and he said i understand, i understand why you have to do that, and i got up and walked away after that. that's all i hope i can bring awareness to this impending rougher offensive. i hope that i can bring some sort of momentum toward getting a cease-fire. i know that right now there's not a lot of work that can be said to have an impact, to move our administration so i hope there can be some pressure, whether it's an uncommitted vote or me walking away from the table. >> i greatly appreciate your time and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, and your feelings and experience about what happened in gaza. thank you so much. next, the u.s. congress and who is spreading lies that are too crazy for conspiracy theorists.

(♪♪ ) why did i keep missing out on this? before you were preventing migraine with qulipta? do you remember the pain, the worry, the canceled plans? and look at me now. you'll never truly forget migraine but qulipta reduces attacks making zero-migraine days possible. it's the only pill of its kind that blocks cgrp and is approved to prevent migraine of any frequency. to help give you that forget you get migraine feeling. don't take if allergic to qulipta. most common side effects are nausea, constipation and sleepiness. learn how abbvie could help you save. qulipta, the forget-you-get migraine medicine. ( ♪♪ ) eggs make all our family moments better. especially when they're eggland's best. taste so fresh and amazing. ( ♪♪ ) deliciously superior nutrition, too.

for us, it's eggs any style. as long as they're the best. eggland's best. ( ♪♪ ) a mystery! jessie loves playing detective. but the real mystery was her irritated skin. so, we switched to tide pods free & gentle. it cleans better, and doesn't leave behind irritating residues. and it's gentle on her skin. tide free & gentle is epa safer choice certified. it's got to be tide. hi, i'm kevin, tide free & gentle is epa safer choice certified. and i've lost 152 pounds on golo. i had just left a checkup with my doctor, and i'd weighed in at 345 pounds. my doctor prescribed a weight loss drug, but as soon as i stopped taking the drug, i gained all the weight back and then some. that's when i decided to give golo a try.

taking the release supplement, i noticed a change within the first week, and each month the weight just kept coming off. with golo, you can keep the weight off. it may not sound like it, but this... is actually progress at 225 miles per hour. shell renewable race fuel. reducing emissions by 60% in all ntt indycar® series races. ♪♪ we're moving forward with indycar. because we're moving forward with everybody. ♪♪ shell. powering progress.

no, my denture's uncomfortable! dracula, let's fight back against discomfort. with new poligrip power max hold & comfort. it has superior hold plus keeps us comfy all day with it's pressure absording layer. time for a bite! if your mouth could talk it would ask for... poligrip. several days back, there were baseless claims circling that the fbi had human assets dressed up as trump supporters

positioned inside the capital, prior to the doors being opened and the masses being waived in. these claims also accused the government of infiltrating pro trump online forums, and urging them to engage in riotous behavior. this conspiracy didn't, from your everyday tinfoil hat wearing american, it came from another then far right clay higgins of louisiana. higgins was on a podcast wearing a shirt featuring the logo of the three presenters, which is a right-wing antigovernment militia. the group was listed as a terrorist entity by the canadian government in 2021, it is the newest development in a long three-year campaign by the republican party to spread conspiracy theories about january 6th, all to exonerate donald trump. it started on the day of the insurrection when conservatives like matt gaetz suggested it was nt for, not trump supporters, who attacked the capital. when that fell apart, trump and his allies moved onto blaming then house speaker nancy

pelosi, for falsely claiming she blocked the national guard from coming to the capital. now, some republicans have embraced the idea that the fbi instigated the attack on the capital, and these lies are having a real impact on americans. the washington post poll from december showed that a quarter of u.s. adults believe the fbi operatives organized and encouraged the capital attack. joining me now is tim miller, msnbc political analyst and author of the book why we did it, a travelogue from the republican road to . fernandez back with us as well, it's good to have both of you. tim, i'll start with higgins, he is not only an election denier, he's previously praised one of the january 6th rioters as someone of good character faith and core principles. what do you make of how the gop has elevated this guy, and someone like him, who i would argue is clearly unhinged? >> we're not sending our best

from louisiana. i apologize for that. clay higgins is extreme and conspiracy theorist, and i think for some reason a lot of times you focus on marjorie taylor greene, but, there's a big block of these types of folks in the house caucus that's getting bigger and bigger every year, a lot of the more center-right or not center- right, normal maga type republicans are checking out because they don't want to deal with the nonsense, and we saw this from mike gallagher in wisconsin, and being replaced, it's worth saying explicitly, this is the stupidest conspiracy theory possibly all of them out there that the fbi was behind this, and it's important to say because of the distance this has gone as you pointed out, a lot of people believe this for some reason. imagine the counterfactual that there fbi people in the midst of the women's march after

donald trump wins in 2017 and they're looking at women in the pink hats and saying, let's storm the capital. let's storm the white house. everybody would look at the fbi agents like you're an insane person, what are you talking about? the whole concept that having three random people there saying let's storm the capital is the reason why a bunch of people storm the capital, it's preposterous. >> to that point, it's not just what is being said and who is saying it, it's also what is not being said and who is not shooting it down. you have people like speaker mike johnson, who is not responded to multiple requests to comment on what higgins said, what clay higgins said, and it begs the question as to why the leadership of house republicans will not come out and say that is bonkers, please stay away from that. >> the reason why is because the conspiracy theories are not a bug of the maga gop, it is a

feature. i think tim is right, there are several of these folks, but we don't do justice to the danger of what is being done, and what we're hearing coming out of these republican positions, whether it's the leadership down to the extreme crazy congressman. what i think is happening is something more sinister. this isn't just the parroting of russian talking points, these are the actions of an internal, fifth column in the united states. by active members of the maga republican party. i'm not saying every member of the republican party but certainly more than enough that are driving the type of thinking and decisions where the leadership is not reacting. the other thing about this, this is the putin playbook, to create this post truth notion where nothing really is true, there's always a conspiracy theory or another side, that way nothing can be the arbiter

of determining what is correct and criminal behavior, versus what is partisan behavior. this is what they are trying to do, it's purposeful, it's willing, and it's by design and i think we need to call it for what it is. fifth column behavior. >> it's interesting, because this has backfired multiple times, this idea of blaming the fbi and the republicans and fox news echoing it. it's actually hurting the republicans, it's hurting fox's news, ray epps of trump supporter is suing fox and tucker carlson for defamation after they claimed he was an undercover cop or undercover fbi agent who helped promote the capital riot. it seems like the right wing echo chamber and the media institutions that feed this have not learned, why would they want to keep this conspiracy theory alive when they've seen what it can cost them in the same way that the defamation lawsuit against the voting machines did.

>> they want to keep it alive because they're in the business of telling their viewers or listeners or voters what they want to hear. they're no longer in the business of challenging that or telling them truth or speaking to the underlying conservative ideology would want them to argue. they're doing fan service, and within this maga group, within the radical segment of the part of the party, you have people that are happy with january 6th, and thought it was a good thing, they were very patriots and they were doing what was necessary. then there's another group that looks at it, and they're still squeamish about the storming of the capital, they thought the election was stolen, they're still squeamish so this excuse that it wasn't your colleague's fault, it wasn't your fellow patriots fault, it was the fbi's fault, is a comforting landing space for those people. that can broaden the radical

part of the maga wing of the party, that's why they continued to do it, even though there have been real consequences, the ray epps case is the most prominent of them. >> how do you make sense of this entrapment argument from her home begins that the fbi tricked them into attacking the? by their logic shouldn't they blame trump to encourage them to walk to the? he's actually on tape saying walk to the capital, but somehow they want to believe that there was an fbi agent who provoked the attack on the capital. >> that's not how the cold works. the cult never criticizes the cult leader. >> i don't know exactly how it works. >> i haven't either i hope, but i know the behavior of what cultists look like and that's what you're describing. i take exception a little bit, i agree with my friend, he's usually right on, the idea that this isn't working i reject, donald trump is basically tied in most of these polls, with joe biden, despite the bat crap

crazy approach that they take in all of these issues. unfortunately, i think that this feature of lies, conspiracy theories, acting as a russian fifth column, i haven't really seen that they're paying the political price in the polls. based on the results of 2022, 2020 and 2018 but at least they're competitive and they think in turn only that this stuff is helping them rather than hurting. >> i'll give you a chance to respond to that, i assume you meant, it's not working with the general public, it's definitely working with the republican trump base. >> sure it is. there's two types of consequences, when we were talking about was fox news has dealt with financial consequences, the election lies with dominion and the ray epps case, i hear what he's saying about the fact that, i wish, given these facts, how insane

and far right the party has gone, it seems like donald trump should be getting crushed in the polls. he's not, what we saw was election deniers, the people that went most with these conspiracies, in swing states and swing districts they all lost across-the-board. there are consequences, not the level of consequences we had hoped, but we are seeing some negative downsides to advancing these conspiracies electorally. >> tim miller, thank you to the both of you, coming up, a story you will see first on ayman, matt bradley into the alleged abuse of palestinian prisoners held in israel.

-remember when i said we need to screen for colon cancer? -was that after i texted the age to screen was now 45? [both] because i said cologuard®! -hey there! -where did he come from? -yup, with me you can screen at home. just talk to your provider. [both] we'll screen with cologuard and do it my way. cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45+ at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for me, cologuard. ♪3, 4♪ ♪ false positive and negative results may occur. ♪hey♪ ♪ ♪are you ready for me♪ ♪are you ready♪ ♪are you ready♪

have you ever considered getting a walk-in tub? well, look no further. proudly made in tennessee, a safe step walk-in tub is the best in it's class. the ultra-low easy step helps keep you safe from having to climb over those high walled tubs, allowing you to age gracefully in the home you love. and now, back by popular demand, for a limited time, when you purchase your brand-new safe step walk-in tub, you'll receive a free shower package!

yes! a free shower package, and if you call today, you'll also receive $1600 off. now you can enjoy the best of both worlds. the therapeutic benefits of a warm, soothing bath, that can help increase mobility, relieve pain, boost energy, and even improve sleep. or, if you prefer, you can take a refreshing shower all in one product! call now!

we have seen horrifying instances of devastation and cruelty over the past six months of the israel hamas war. nbc news has now spoken to palestinian detainees who claim they have experienced beatings and torture at the hands of their israeli jailers. israeli officials have denied knowledge of or participation in this abuse, but acknowledged in a separate statement that they had reduced living conditions for security prisoners following the october 7th attacks. nbc matt bradley talked to some of those palestinian prisoners, he filed this report. >> reporter: stripped, bound, and blindfolded. kicked and spat at. palestinians say these videos show torture and humiliation. these men, part of a group of detainees were released into gaza in december.

they beat us so much i wanted to die, this man says. none of them was charged. they were detained by israel after the october 17 attacks, when hamas murdered over 1200 people. human rights groups say there's been a spike into tensions since then. amnesty international alleges horrifying cases of torture and several detainees told nbc news they were sexually harassed and assaulted. including, who says soldiers threatened to force him into acts. >> i shouted, i was beaten, it was the worst experience of my life. >> it's not just men. the united nations expressing alarm over what it said were credible allegations that at least two female palestinian detainees were reportedly raped. nbc news cannot verify any of these allegations. israel's foreign ministry said the u.n. claims were despicable and unfounded. israel's military told us it was not immediately able to investigate those claims but

said individuals suspected of involvement in terrorist activity are being detained and questioned. they are treated with dignity, and in accordance with international law, and incidents not following guidelines will be looked into. and there are new accusations about israeli presence. arrested before october 7th says treatment inside prisons had grown markedly worse. they treated us less than animals, beating, abusing, torturing, he said. i had three broken ribs. he was arrested on suspicion of communicating with a foreign group affiliated with hamas. a charge he denies, and spent eight months in prison away from his two-year-old daughter before he was released in november. they sexually harassed us to the point of rape, he said. he witnessed guards sodomize his cellmates with objects. nbc news cannot verify any of these allegations. israeli prison service has previously said it was reducing the living conditions of what they said security prisoners, and told nbc news prisoners are detained according to the law.

they were not aware of these allegations, and that as far as we know, no such events have occurred. >> what we've seen in the prison service now, is revenge. >> and israeli human rights activist. >> what we've seen is an israeli guantanamo. and if the reports of the torture and abuse are true, we've seen an israeli peer >> matt bradley, nbc news. >> thanks to matt bradley for that report, we'll be right back. back. i know what it's like to perform through pain. if you're like me, one of the millions suffering from pain caused by migraine, nurtec odt may help.

it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.

♪ limu emu ♪ ♪ and doug ♪ hello, ghostbusters. it's doug... ... of doug and limu. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. anyway, we got a bit of a situation here. ♪♪ uh-huh. uh-huh. ♪♪ [ metal groans] sure, i can hold. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty liberty liberty liberty ♪ ghostbusters: frozen empire. in theaters now.

the radical left, their corporate allies, the liberal media, have tried to cancel me. >> i was just blackballed, and totally canceled peer >> they want to cancel the president. it won't just be the president of the united states. the cancel culture will come for us all. >> cancel culture has become a familiar bogeyman for republicans with a victim complex, but is there a

difference between calling someone out for bigoted or otherwise reprehensible behavior, and actually silencing the speech you don't agree with? that is the question posed by a new msnbc films documentary, canceled, the story of cancel culture, which airs tonight on msnbc right after the show at 9:00 p.m. eastern. it is the latest installment of the turning point documentary series from executive producer trevor noah. the film examples cancel culture through incidents that made headlines while offering expert commentary on navigating this cultural moment. here's a quick look. >> often times comedians feel that they are able to speak truth to power, in a way that many other people cannot peer >> comedy is supposed to make you wince. and laugh at yourself. and say unmentionable things peer >> to worry about someone taking something you said the wrong way. >> is dark and it's late and you're drinking, and a lot of moments are knotty, there's nobody around, and you're watching the same moment on

your little phone over morning coffee, like what's the matter with these people? how can they left, who can say such things? >> you're not taking a look at the whole person, you're taking one thing that came out of their mouth that you took a certain way, and you decide that's it. >> judy gold is a comedian featured in canceled, she's going to join me after the break, don't go anywhere. o any nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪) (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric grams because it helpsof protein. with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust.

hi, i'm jason. i've lost 228 pounds on golo. ♪ i don't ever want to go back to wearing a 4xl shirt or not being able to climb up stairs without taking a break. so i'm committed to golo for life.

it's time to feed the dogs real food, not highly processed pellets. the farmer's dog is fresh food made with whole meat and veggies. it's not dry food. it's not wet food. it's just real food. it's an idea whose time has come. oooo. trouble seeing, buddy? you should book an exam at america's best. america's best. they have one of the nation's largest groups of optometrists! oh, you're ... very welcome. america's best. because eye care is healthcare - and you deserve the best. her uncle's unhappy. america's best. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials.

“the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for.

before the break we showed you a preview of the new documentary from msnbc films called canceled, the story of cancel culture, comedian judy gold is one of the many expert voices featured in the film, for good reason. she literally wrote the book on the pressure comedians are facing right now called yes, i can say that, when they come for the comedians we are all in trouble. judy is here onset, it's great to have you, great to see you in person. this is something we discussed regularly on this joe but i thought the framing of this specifically with comedians is so important. where are we right now as a society dealing with this issue for cancel culture for comedians? >> i can answer that question by saying look at the comedians we grew up with, i'm older than you. they would be canceled. they would have a lot of issues right now. here's what i think is happening, let's just, when we talk about cancel culture, i know you showed the video of

the republicans all complaining about being canceled for all the horrible lies that they say, but they're the ones who are banning books in florida. who is canceling who? as far as comedy is concerned, there are different aspects of telling a joke. there's a comedians intent, there's context, and there is nuance. is very subjective. some people like sarcasm, some people don't like sarcasm. some people will take the joke the wrong way, not how the comedian intended it, and then decide that person should never be able to tell another joke again. we're at this bad place where some comedians, newer comedians, are afraid. they're afraid to go there. that is very, very dangerous. george carlin said i like to find out where the line is, deliberately cross it, and make the audience happy that i did.

but, we don't know where the line is until the audience tells us. >> i guess that is an important question, when you are telling a joke, you test the joke, the joke sometimes is based on your observation of the society and culture and the moment that we're living in, and you want to reflect that moment back to the audience. why then do you think it is important to take into consideration with the audience reaction is to that moment? why not do it with the commitment that you are going to say, this is important because it's about free speech as opposed to the feelings of the audience and i have to take that into consideration. >> i think there's a craft, it is an art form, and that's our goal is to get to that point. in the most, the most funny and the most well-crafted way. so we have to try things out over and over to even get the

cadence right, the rhythm right. there's timing, there is syllabic things that go on. but it's the only art form where the audience is part of the creative process. leonard bernstein, he never was conducting and then turned to the insurance adjuster in the second row and said, what do you think, too much oboe? but that's how we figure it out. we don't know. we can write all day and think this is hilarious and then get in front of an audience and, not there yet. >> what you think has been the reason for this change in the way, is it because the jokes you used to deliver as you said in that clip that we played, used to be for the intimate room that you were delivering the joke in, or the confined room that it was in? now somebody takes it, they're watching. >> and you know what we have? social media. so people can get on, take

something out of context, say this is what i heard, this is what this comedian said, and they just come, the people, oh my god, i can't believe that happened. we're giving people a soapbox that don't deserve a soapbox, and i think the world has changed. jokes that were funny 20 years ago, words have different meanings now, so we have all that as well peer >> let me ask you, finally, tangentially, something that dwayne "the rock" johnson said this week, he said he's not going to endorse any presidential candidate, he said he regretted endorsing president biden because the division that came from that. do you think this is a case of trying to avoid being canceled that we've also put ourselves in these situations where we don't want to give an opinion? or in some cases when you crack a joke, that joke is being used to paint you as a person who has these values? if you crack a joke about a certain group, that means you must hate that group or dislike

that group. >> i don't think a joke about a group of people is, you can talk about one person who has characteristics that, come on, our ancestry, there are certain stereotypes that come from the truth. and our history. but i think if you're specifically talking about one person and they have these characteristics, fine, but you can't do that to an entire group of people and i think he's kind of a coward. either say, or don't be into politics. >> both the right and left equally guilty? >> my god, the left, crybabies, everything is offensive, i can't believe you said that. and the right, conspiracy theories, lies, disparage people, incite violence. it's a whole soup peer >> judy, always a pleasure, thank you so much. easure, thank you so much.