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tonight. now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> the eclipse did not disappoint. i watched it from new york city . we got 90%, apparently, eclipse. i just was not expecting much and then it was much. >> yes, exactly. it did not disappoint. i was in a place for it was like i think we were at 97, so i was pretty close, and the feeling of -- first of all, the birds went crazy and the birds went totally silent. that was weird but then the feeling of it being both dark and suddenly cool, you know, like feeling the temperature drop was just otherworldly. it was crazy. i thought it was fantastic. >> yeah, we had the temperature drop here, of course, but birds are permitted in new york city, so we did not have any galloping giraffes or any of those other phenomenon that apparently happen around the planet under the circumstances,
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but it was pretty great. >> yes. i was waiting for my dogs to be weird and they both just slept through it. >> they know it was coming, yeah. they're like oh, it's dark. bye. >> sure. we have a lot of legal stuff to get to tonight. we have the jury questions for a jury that's going to start getting impaneled one week from today. this next monday night, we will be talking about what happened in jury selection today in manhattan. we also had the jack smith brief to the supreme court on the immunity claim by donald trump and you know, rachel, i've got to say, as legalistic as it is, it makes a lot of sense, this jack smith argument that no, the founders never said presidents can commit any crimes they want to. >> and, if they can commit any crimes, maybe the one they really can't commit is [
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inaudible ] i will say, jack smith's filings never disappoint for the nonlawyers among us, including you and me, i always find his filings to be very plain english, very readable and straight to the point. >> yes, they are the best legal reading you could ask for, for a couple of reasons. the clarity, the simplicity of concept that is constantly being delivered, then the huge import of it all. every time you read one, you know you are holding history in your hands. >> exactly. well done. >> thank you, rachel. for donald trump's entire life before becoming a politician, he was a strong, strong supporter of abortion, verging on an enthusiast. he was the kind of guy who would say, what are we going to do about this, when a woman told him he impregnated her. he told that story in 2004 on howard stern's radio show. donald trump said you know, all the time it was like excuse me, what happened? and i said well, what are we going to do about this? she said, are you serious?
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it's the most beautiful day of our lives. i said oh, great. and now, donald trump's most ignored child, tiffany trump has that story of her birth that lives publicly with her for her entire life thanks to then abortion enthusiast donald trump. so, donald trump has been lying about abortion every time he has spoken about it since he became a republican candidate in 2015. he lied about it again today when he once again proudly took credit for ending abortion rights in this country. >> i was probably the person responsible for the ending of something that all legal scholars, both sides, wanted and in fact demanded be ended. roe v. wade. >> all legal scholars on both sides is a trumpian lie, of
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course. in fact, most legal scholars, like most people in the united states of america, very much wanted to preserve women's reproductive rights established in roe versus wade 51 years ago. donald trump then announced today a new position on abortion , which he was afraid to announce during the republican presidential primaries because it could have cost him republican votes in those primaries. >> my view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint to states will be determined by vote or legislation or perhaps both. >> donald trump sly there, of course, is that everybody wanted to leave abortion up to individual states. that is a lie. most americans did not want to
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have different abortion laws in each state, and now, donald trump is taking full credit for making reproductive rights impossible for one third of american women. the washington post reports nearly one in three women ages 15 to 44 living in a state where abortion is banned or severely restricted. today, donald trump said in fact that he fully supports every abortion provided in the state of california, because that is california's choice and at the same time, donald trump fully supports a five-year prison sentence for anyone involved in an abortion in the state of idaho. that five-year prison term for involvement in an abortion in idaho was upheld by three trump- appointed federal appeals court judges. lindsey graham showed us today what would have happened if donald trump announced his leave it up to the states policy
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while republican candidates were still running against him. senator graham said i respectfully disagree with president trump's statement that abortion is a states rights issue. i will continue to advocate that there should be a national minimum standard limiting abortion at 15 weeks. donald trump fired back immediately, saying senator lindsey graham is doing a great disservice to the republican party and to our country. at first he wanted no abortions and in any circumstances than he was up to six weeks, where you are allowed abortion. now, he's up to 15 weeks. lindsey graham is considering himself lucky tonight that donald trump did not give out his cell phone number this time, the way donald trump did during his first presidential campaign when he was angry at lindsey graham. >> i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the right number. let's try it.
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202228 -- i don't know it's three or four years ago so maybe it's an old number. 202-228 -- so i don't know, give it a shot. >> trump voters gave it a shot and lindsey graham had to get a new cell phone number, and has spent every day of his life since then living in abject fear of donald trump. donald trump also said this. in his rebuke of lindsey graham today, many good republicans lost elections because of this issue and people like lindsey graham that are unrelenting, are handing democrats their dream of the house, senate, and perhaps even the presidency. donald trump is right, of course , that the repeal of roe versus wade is one of the issues that will defeat donald trump in the election, especially now that donald trump is announcing that abortion for him is just a
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political calculation. but, he is wrong to believe that he can teach ardent abortion opponents who believe that all abortion is murder that abortion is really just a political issue, that the republican position on abortion should just be a political calculation. it should not be driven by factors like the rights of women, medical science, or morality, just politics. that is now the official trunk position on abortion rights, just a political calculation. no principle is involved. the biden-harris campaign posted this video today about amanda and josh zawadzki, texas couple who attended this year's state of the union address by president biden after what they endured in texas thanks to donald trump. >> this is one of our boxes
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filled with some of the things we had started gathering for her while i was pregnant. there is her little baby book. this is the outfit she was going to maybe where home from the hospital. all these -- this is -- the blanket she would have been in. and these are her little footprints. >> texas congressman kevin
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allred now a candidate for texas will generate discussion in a moment. trump doesn't tell you the mega republicans he controls in congress will put forward bills that could ban fertility treatments and that the speaker of the house he empowered is one of the strongest supporters for a national abortion ban in the nation. let there be no illusion. if donald trump is elected and the maga republicans in congress put a national abortion ban on the resolute desk, trump will sign it into law. i am determined to restore the federal protections of roe versus wade, the fundamental right to choose for women will once again be the law of the land. if you give me and vice president harris a democratic congress, that is exactly what we will do. trump is simply lying. there was no groundswell of support in america for
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overturning roe. in fact, support for roe is higher today in america than it has ever been. the real truth is trump made a political deal in 2016. he promised to appoint a court that would get rid of roe, and he had to make good on that debt, so he did. it was never about public policy or what was right or what trump believed. it was always about politics. it was always about politics. and, vice president harris said this today. >> if he were to be put back in a position where he could sign off on the law, he would sign off on a national abortion ban. let's be very clear about that and that obviously makes the contrast between joe biden and donald trump quite clear. leading off our discussion as senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. she is a member of the
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judiciary committee and senate rules committee, and also running to re-election to the united states senate in 2024. thank you very much for joining us tonight. donald trump seems very worried that lindsey graham is ruining everything. he is ruining the presidential campaign for donald trump, ruining the side campaign for your opponents and other republican candidates and he may very well be right about that. >> well, you know, there goes loyalty to friends for donald trump but i think the bigger picture, you know, the sun peeking out from the moon on this cosmic day, is what president biden and vice president harris just said. to be clear, president biden has just said if republicans got in and controlled congress and put that vote on the resolute desk, donald trump would sign it. what really is amazing about this day and that heartbreaking ad that you just showed,
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amanda's story, which has been replicated all across the country, unbelievable, might be heard from even having a baby again, which is what she wants, what is really amazing about this is you don't need a fact checker for that ad. that fact checker is in donald trump's video itself. when he says so clearly, i am proudly, those are his words, the person who has the responsibility, who is responsible for overturning roe v wade, so while donald trump, his choice is clear, while donald trump overturned 50 years of legal rights for women, joe biden will restore it. >> yes, in the trunk position is that he fully supports what happened to amanda because the republican government of texas has decided that should happen
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to amanda in texas, and donald trump is very happy for it not to happen to anyone in california or massachusetts or new york. that is the trunk position. if you live in a republican -controlled state, you're going to live under this regime that can do this to people like amanda. >> and, what does that mean? one third of the men -- of women in america live under this and others don't. a patchwork of laws, bans on travel some states of put in place, criminalizing doctors that some of them have put in place, this idea you're going to have no exception for or incest like we see out of texas, that is what he is basically sentencing them to. position after position, as you point out, in line with whatever politics suits his fancy. this is the moment where people are going to have to choose what side they are on and when he says there is a groundswell of support to overturn roe,
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look at the voters turning out on the prairies of kansas, turning out in ohio by an 11 point margin, and that great state where we are going to see sharon brown win that election or you go over to wisconsin. tammy baldwin, great senator. look at that. 10 point margin on the supreme court there. you look at what is going on all over the country, the voters are speaking out loud and clear about where they are on this, and he just took responsibility for this chaos. donald trump took responsibility. >> i want to review a moment that we can't forget delivered to us on this network by chris matthews in 2016. donald trump saying that yes, of course there has to be some punishment for women who get abortion services. let's listen to this. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion? yes or no? >> and, the answer is that there has to be some sort of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah.
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>> so, senator, he supports the five-year prison term in idaho for anyone involved in an abortion and he clearly would support, as he said right there, any prison term you might want to impose on a woman anywhere in the country as long as the state decides to do that. that is the trunk position. >> exactly, or maybe they are judges. the judge down there he put on in texas, there we go. he is basically saying throw this to the state and we will continue this chaos, and i'm going to support when he says throw it to the states, that means he is supporting these draconian provisions that many, sadly, these governors who ran to the statehouse after the dobbs decision came out and saw who could match and guide the most draconian state law possible, he owns it now. he owns it. he already owns the judges.
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he put those dobbs judges on the court, but now, he's also going to own what these states do. he has made his position clear, and that is when the sun came out from under the moon is so we can now know when amanda tells her story, this guy has claimed responsibility for it. >> an adult, i want a final quote before you go. i want to go to your job on the senate judiciary committee of confirming federal judges. the big question for voters is who do you want sending those judges to the committee. do you want donald trump sending more of the judges he has already sent, including those three judges on the appeals court that has confirmed and affirmed the five-year penalty criminal sentence for involvement in abortion in idaho. there are three trunk judges who have affirmed that the federal appeals court level. donald trump and the presidency would send more of those judges to your committee. >> exactly, and that is why we have confirmed 190 judges,
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including katanji brown jackson, that joe biden has put before us. we have three this week from utah and nebraska and the great state of michigan. we are moving forward on these judges, and you look at why it matters. that matters. you just are going to discuss later in your program whether or not a president is above the law, whether or not he can claim immunity for any act, because that is what donald trump is claiming. we know the mifepristone decision, that was a trump judge. these decisions about voting rights in the decisions about changing the john lewis bill and making all of these decisions, that is about judges who have been put on by donald trump, yes, but also, it's about judges you can put on that follow the law and are highly qualified, and even the>
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decision, which you know, lawrence, with your legal aptitude, which is about allowing agencies to make decisions about the percentage of particles in air pollution, some of these judges that donald trump put on, or are judges out of his ilk, they actually have said oh, agencies shouldn't do that. we should have congress and the judges make those decisions. you can see where this is rolling if he is allowed come back and put these judges on. >> senator amy klobuchar, thanks for joining us tonight. joining us now is congressman allred, democratic candidate for senate in texas this year. congressman, i know you know the story told in that video by amanda and of course she was at the state of the union address. all of texas should know that story by now. donald trump fully supports what happened to her because he fully supports whatever republicans want to make as the law of texas as it relates to reproductive rights.
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>> yes. you know, i actually just spoke with amanda a few minutes ago before coming on your show. i wanted to talk to her because she is a friend and i wanted to let her know we are going to be talking about her story. i wanted to thank her for her bravery and talking about what is a deeply, deeply personal and heartbreaking story. i hope folks around the country, when they watch amanda's story and the hear about it, understand what is happening in texas. what our reality is now. 26,000 women in texas have been forced to give birth to the ' child, lawrence. they have lawyers, not doctors determining whether or not they're sick enough to get the care they need.
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folks like dr. dennard, who is a friend of mine and grew up 10 minutes for me in dallas, who had a much wanted third pregnancy and had to flee the state to get the care that she needed. this is not who we are as americans but it is also not who we are as texans. over the last week plus, crisscrossing estate from north texas to the hill country down to laredo, houston, all over our state, and all over our state, texans are talking about this. we're going to stand up on november 5th and vote out ted cruz. >> donald trump tonight is worried that lindsey graham, highlighting donald trump's inconsistency on abortion policy , will hurt not just donald trump's candidacy, but will also hurt senator chris's candidacy against you, linda seems to me that donald trump believes in the potency of this issue is much as you do. >> well, they are playing politics, playing with people's lives but let's be very clear. ted cruz does support a national abortion ban. ted cruz celebrated the dobbs decision, and in doing so and over the years of his extremism, you know, the
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anticipated outcome you could've seen coming is exactly what we are dealing with right now. and so, ted cruz is now about to get -- the repercussions are going to come to him now. he was too cowardly when amanda spoke before the senate judiciary committee, to be there to hear her story, but he is going to hear her voice loud and clear in november. >> i have to go back over this, because this, as a matter of senate tradition and procedure, is really quite shocking. when you remember the committee and someone from your state comes to justify, i have never seen a moment where senator was not just there at the committee for the person from his state or her state to testify, but frequently introduces that witness to a committee. when that witness comes from that senator state. senator cruise would not even attend the hearing when amanda testified? >> no. that's right. i guess he could not face her. he could not hear from her lips , you know, the outcomes of his policies and what it meant to
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her, her family, and to the future. i mean, as you said, i remember congress, when i have somebody from a hometown or somebody from my state in front of my committee i want to be there so they know i am there with them and i want to hear from them. ted cruz would not even show amanda that little bit of respect. >>: allred, now running against cruise in texas, thank you very much for joining us tonight. coming up, breaking news on the night. a new filing from special prosecutor jack smith earning -- urging the supreme court to reject donald trump's claim of presidential immunity that would allow donald trump or any president to commit any crime they choose to commit while in office, and after they leave office. that's next. with mild-to-moderate covid-19 and a high-risk factor for it becoming severe.
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breaking news. tonight, special prosecutor jack smith urged the supreme court to reject donald trump's claims that he has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for trying to steal the 2020 presidential election. jack smith's brief to the supreme court attacks every immunity claim donald trump makes. jack smith said, the president's constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed does not entail a general right to violate them. petitioners suggest that unless a criminal statute expressly names the president, the statute does not apply. that radical suggestion, which would free the president from virtually all criminal law, even crimes such as bribery, murder, treason, and sedition, is unfounded. jack smith's brief stressed that donald trump is the only president in history who
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believes in presidential immunity. jack smith wrote, the framers never endorsed criminal immunity for a former president , and all presidents from the founding to the modern era have known that after leaving office, they faced potential criminal liability for official acts. the closest historical analog as president nixon's official conduct in watergate, and his acceptance of a pardon implied his and president ford's recognition that a former president was subject to prosecution. the absence of any prosecutions of former presidents until this case does not reflect the understanding that presidents are immune from criminal liability. it instead underscores the unprecedented nature of petitioners alleged conduct. to the particulars of the case, jack smith wrote first, of
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presidents alleged criminal scheme to overturn an election and thwart the peaceful transfer of power to his lawfully elected successor is the. dramatic example of conduct that should not be immunized, even if other contact should be. second, at the core of the charged conspiracies is a private scheme with private actors to achieve a private and -- petitioner's effort to remain in power by fraud. those allegations of private misconduct are more than sufficient to support the indictment. joining our discussion of is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she has cohost of the podcast "hash text sisters-in-law," and nbc legal analyst. just when we think we've heard all the arguments already on this issue, jack smith comes
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through with another brief with new ways of saying these things that become ever more powerful every time he is forced to restate them. >> i think that is right. you know, this is a technical legal brief and smith is making arguments predicated on what he hopes the supreme court will do, ruling that there is no immunity, and what he is afraid the court might do, ruling that there is limited immunity, in which case, smith says to the court, no matter what you decide about what immunity might exist, donald trump is not entitled to any immunity. you should send this case back to district court for trial because his conduct involves a purely personal conspiracy, and although we are entitled to use evidence of his official acts, we could try this case just is a private, an official acts conspiracy. so, it is extremely
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well-crafted from a technical legal point of view. the language, though, is beautiful and i am struck, despite trying to read it with my professional hat on, how emotionally this brief hits. this is jack smith saying to the supreme court, please don't sacrifice the american experiment on the altar of donald trump. it is in many ways an emotional brief on what it means to be an american and have no man be above the law in this country. >> and, it is supported by other briefs filed, including by historians. this is what historians brief filed today, saying the founders' disinterest in taking up executive immunity is not surprising. the constitutional debate was framed by the federalists, who sought to include an executive that was strong but his powers were not boundless, and those who were concerned that any executive would be to inherently dangerous. the federalist retained their concern that a president must be subject to constraints on his ambition. they certainly were not advocating for increasing a
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presidents privileges or immunities. the framers did not ignore the subject, they rejected it. on this point, there are no credible competing original understandings. and joyce, as we know, the republicans on the supreme court claimed that they believe the original intent is what matters. >> they do, in fact, make that claim, and this brief is powerful on that point. this is leading historians who look at and study what the founding fathers meant, and that is what the conservative majority on this court says matters to them. they have used that in other cases, including dobbs, the abortion decision. the conclusion is the brief is pretty startling, clear across the board saying absolutely no immunity.
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this is not what the founding fathers meant the constitution to mean. >> another very powerful brief filed by former military leaders is saying the theory of immunity, if accepted, has the potential to severely undermine the commander-in-chief's legal and moral authority to lead the military forces, as it would signal that they, but not he, must obey the rule of law. joyce, we are going to squeeze in a commercial break here, and come back to the jury questions that we got today that jurors will be been asked exactly a week from now in manhattan in the first trump trial. we are going to squeeze in a break right here. we will be back with joyce vance right after this. vance right after this. g. the places we cheer. trust. hang out. and check in. they all choose the advanced network solutions and round the clock partnership from comcast business. powering more businesses than anyone. powering possibilities.
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have you, a relative, or a close friend ever worked for any company or organization that is owned or run by donald trump or anyone in his family? that is question number 28 you will be asked if you are in the manhattan jury pool for donald trump's first criminal trial beginning one week from tonight. question 20 9a, have you, a relative or close friend ever worked or volunteered for a trump presidential campaign, trump presidential administration or any other political entity affiliated with mr. trump? have you ever attended a rally or campaign event for mr. trump. question 20 9e, have you, relative or close friend ever
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worked or volunteered for any anti-trump group or organization. 20 9h, do you currently follow any anti-trump group or organization on any social media site, or have you done so in the past, and question 30. have you ever considered yourself a supporter of or belonged to any of the following? the qanon movement, cowboys, oath keepers, three presenters, antifa. joyce vance is back with us. 's list of potential questions for trump jurors has some questions we've never seen before. >> you know, some of these questions are very specific to this trial but really, anyone who has been involved in jury service will find these questions to be very familiar. the whole point of this process is to determine whether jurors will be able to set aside any knowledge that they have gained outside of the courtroom, any prejudices or beliefs or affiliations they may have, and
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try the case simply on the evidence that the here in court and the law that the judge explains to them. that is the fair jury we say defendants are entitled to, and that is the judges goal when he lets the lawyers and perhaps he himself will participate to question potential jurors. >> one of the lawyers options when they hear these answers, they can challenge for cause, and then some, they can just have removed from the pool without giving any reason at all. is that right? >> right. it becomes accounting game for the lawyers. you get a certain number of challenges, peremptory challenges that you can use just if a juror makes you uncomfortable, you don't like the juror. there are some limitations on that. you can't, for instance, exclude jurors because of their race, but by and large, that is where most of the challenge to jurors come from. you can also challenge a juror for cause.
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a juror who says, for instance, i'm a joe biden supporter and i'm going to vote to convict donald trump no matter what the evidence is, that juror is gone for cause on that statement. >> well, we will be watching on monday to see what the challenges become. thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. coming up, exactly 6 months ago, the war began between israel and gaza after hamas attacked israel on october 7th. pulitzer prize-winning columnist thomas friedman will join us next. ♪ i'm gonna love you forever ♪ ♪ ♪ c'mon, bear. ♪ ♪ ♪ you don't...you don't have to worry... ♪ ♪ be by your side... i'll be there... ♪ ♪ with my arms wrapped around... ♪ hello, ghostbusters. it's doug. we help people customize and
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it has been exactly 6 months since hamas attacked israel on october 7th, killing 1139 people, and taking at least 230 people hostage. one of the hostages they took is 62-year-old aviva siegel whose husband, keith, is still being held hostage. speaking in washington yesterday, she asked us to remember him. >> i'm going to ask you to close your eyes and imagine keith, who is 64 years old, begging for water, begging for something to eat, begging for some air to breathe, begging for just standing, to move his
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body. begging to talk. begging to come home, to be with us. he is begging there in gaza. keith is still in gaza going through hell. i was there for 51 days. i went through hell. i was starved while the terrorist ate in front of me. i was tortured. i was threatened, and i was thirsty. i had no human rights. i felt like nothing. but, i came back.
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i returned from living hell, and i am here standing today, alive, with my daughters. i am living proof we can bring them home. our next guest, wrote, israel has done enormous damage to hamas' military infrastructure but at a cost to innocent civilians in gaza that cannot be morally or strategically justified any longer. that was 16 weeks ago. israel has admitted responsibility for the killing of seven food aid workers last week. the israeli military's
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chief spokesperson told reporters quote, it is a tragedy. it is a serious event we are responsible for, and it shouldn't have happened. since president biden's 40 minute phone call with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu on thursday, israel has approved the opening of three humanitarian aid corridors that were specifically requested by president biden and yesterday, the israeli government said some israeli troops are being withdrawn from southern gaza, and negotiations with hamas for a cease-fire and release of hostages will resume. joining our discussion now is thomas friedman, pulitzer prize- winning columnist for the new york times and author of "from beirut to jerusalem." thank you very much for joining us here on the program. you warned from the beginning that a massive israeli invasion of gaza could be a mistake. here we are, at the six month point.
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how do you access what the situation there is tonight, and where we might be going from here? >> thanks, lawrence. i guess a way to summarize it, is that a war that israel began out of a feeling of both moral and strategic necessity has turned into a moral and strategic tragedy for israelis and palestinians. at this stage, there are only really three ways this work and and. in a way that i think is decent for israelis and decent for palestinians. the preferred option would be if the hamas military was dismantled and replaced in gaza by the palestinian authority in the west bank in partnership with armies of air -- arab governments like the united arab emirates. i think that could only really happen, though, if the united states laid down a far-reaching peace plan calling for two states for two people. that is the best way this could end. it could also and with israel
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just leaving, and basically not attempting any way to govern gaza, but also not allowing the palestinian authority to come in, either, in which case you will have kind of somalia on the mediterranean, a kind of gangland gaza. a third option would be for israel to leave and leave some hamas presence in gaza to run whatever it can, in some kind of way to keep the place basically running and humanitarian aid coming in. i'm sure that would be the least best option for israel, but i don't see any other choices in those three, and unfortunately, the israeli government under netanyahu has refused to go for the palestinian authority option, has basically chosen not to govern so it seems to be by default, opting for the somalia option, but by the end of the day, it may end up with actually the hamas option.
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>> who has an incentive to keep it going the way it is going right now? >> that's a very good question and i think two people have been codependent, basically from long before the beginning of this war and that is israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and the hamas leader. they feed off each other and this threat of sinwar, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has always leveraged to win his elections and at the same time, his willingness to feed sinwar and hamas in gaza as an alternative in gaza at the same time has helped sinwar. he feels that the world has turned against israel, even the united states. therefore he started to drag out hostage negotiations for as
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long as he can to strike the strongest bargain he can and netanyahu knows he'd like to always be winning in gaza, lawrence, but not win because the minute the war is over there will be a real reckoning between netanyahu and the israeli people. >> what you see is president biden's best options in a world of no good options at this point? >> i think president biden, his heart is very much in the right place. he understood this was a murderous attack on israel, that there is no two-state solution with hamas and at the same time, he probably was -- he was too tolerant of it israeli strategy that was willing to sacrifice far too many palestinian civilians in order to achieve its military objective but i don't think the story is over for president biden. i know the administration is preparing a peace initiative, something very big that would involve saudi arabia and hamas- israeli peace expert greenstein
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calls more for more, a much bigger security benefit package for israel and the whole arab world in a much bigger opportunity for the palestinians for two-states and i think that would be the best move if we can get to a cease- fire in hostage release. i think the administration will then use that moment, that opening, to come in with something very big and hopefully create a situation where the war would not resume. >> might we be at a point in the political calendar for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is looking at the presidential election here in picking which one of these candidates would be better for him in the white house for the next four years? >> it's a good question, and i think he is so focused on his own political survival, which is deeply in doubt, that you
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know, thinking he can kind of play the game of american politics, i think, would be naove and i think it is unlikely because donald trump is not some big netanyahu fan, either, and trump has been telling netanyahu hey, in this thing quickly. you are getting killed in terms of pr on the world stage, so the idea that trump would somehow be good for netanyahu, i'm not sure that's true. >> thomas friedman, thank you very much for joining us. we always appreciate whenever you can give us the time. >> always good to be with you. >> we will be right back. >> we will be right back. that can treat and prevent my attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. now i'm in control. with nurtec odt i can treat a migraine attack and prevent one. talk to your doctor about nurtec today.
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