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i'm katy tur. can donald trump distance himself from abortion in november. he is certainly trying. now saying the overturning of roe v. wade is about states rights, not abortion, and saying the arizona ruling goes too far. it is the same thing kari lake is trying to do, personally lobbying republican state lawmakers to repeal the law, according to nbc news, when it was only two years ago, she called the civil war era ban, a quote, great law, when she was running for governor. it's also what gop lawmakers in congress are trying to do on access to ivf. so why the flip-flops? perhaps because interfering with women's health choices has proven to be a political loser for republicans. we've seen it in special elections. and ballot initiatives, and even in polling. it's clear banning basically all abortions and mucking around with ivf isn't popular among the american public, even in red

states. can the gop realistically dodge the fallout. can donald trump with his pivots to state rights appease voters who might be on the fence. democrats say no. what are they trying to do about it? joining us now from tucson, arizona, nbc news correspondent yamiche alcindor. senior national political correspondent for "the washington post," and msnbc political analyst, ashley parker, glad i could make you smile. and spokesperson for the arizona for abortion access campaign, chris love. all right. yamiche, the democrats are now kind of taking this a step further with donald trump. they're not saying he's responsible for the overturning of roe v. wade, but they're calling him now the architect of it. will you explain? >> reporter: that's right, the vice president has really become the most prominent voice in the biden administration when it comes to the issue of abortion, and she's held more than 80 events since the overturning of roe v. wade across 20 states. we have seen her have this

official abortion tour where she was talking about reproductive freedoms, going to michigan, wisconsin, here in arizona a few weeks ago. now you see having a campaign event. this is the first time we'll see the vice president headline a campaign event focused squarely on abortion. she wanted to do this, aides told me, because she wanted to aggressively go after the former president donald trump. she wants to say he's to blame for this, the architect of what she's calling a health care crisis across america. i want to read part of what her campaign has put out. she's going to say, according to the campaign, the overturning of roe was a seismic event and the ban is one of the biggest after shocks yet. donald trump is the architect. if donald trump gets the chance, he will sign a national abortion ban. here's what a second trump term looks like. more bans, more suffering, less freedom. there of course you have the former president distancing himself for the ruling, and

saying he's not going to sign an abortion ban. >> ashley parker, here's the thing, there is all of this talk about how donald trump has moved away from the pro choice movement or moved to a position where the pro life movement isn't comfortable being. he's making them more moderate. is that going to be enough? when he takes organizations along with him who say that what he's remarking on, all states rights really not about abortion, does that help insulate him among the swing republican voters, the fence voters who he needs to win over in november? ashley. >> i think it's important to say when he put out that statement on state's rights, there was a lot of lobbying in his world that he should, for any number of things, right, that he should support a federal abortion ban, that he should not say anything. that he should go with states

right, and a number of advisers warned him, including kellyanne conway, when you say this is about state's rights and kick it back to the state, then you own everything that any state does. so that means there may be states that are far more permissive than his evangelical base likes. and you own that. the flip side, what we're seeing now is there may be states that go much further in a way that not only will galvanize democrats and a lot of potentially moderate suburban women, a number of republicans, but that donald trump himself has said is too far. i don't know that it insulates him from anything, and in fact, in some ways, especially if democrats or president biden can be effective in their messaging, it does quite the opposite. it makes him own whatever is politically problematic, what we have seen in midterms and special elections is just about everything when it comes to abortion in a post dobbs world.

>> let's talk again about arizona. he needs that state, yamiche. he has to win arizona to win the presidency. joe biden won it last time. kari lake lost the governorship the other day. a couple of years ago, i should say. now she's flip flopping. it's clear that republicans in the state, running for office at least, understand this is a political problem for them. can you walk me through what you're hearing from voters, and what you can suss out from that? >> well, republicans definitely see this issue of abortion as a liability, and they realize that the vast majority of americans, the vast majority of people living in arizona don't want to see a near total ban of abortion, which is what the state might get in a few weeks. i have been talking to people on the ground. i also talked in particular to a doctor who has been providing abortion care for decades. he feels compelled to speak out. fearful for his family and himself. doesn't want to be out there talking about this. now is the moment to talk about the women he treats.

sexual violence victims, who do not want to be pregnant. i should be saying, i have been talking to anti abortion activists, they are pushing to rescind the signatures from the ballot initiative that would put abortion rights in the state constitution if it were to pass in november. take a listen to what both sides told me. >> it just struck me when i was very young and very early in my career that this care is just so necessary to provide the type of autonomy to women that men have enjoyed historically. >> arizona is a different state. we have always been independent. we've always been -- we've done things our own way, i think independently. and arizona voters when they are given the facts are going to decide in opposition to this amendment. >> so there's been a lot of talk of the ballot initiative, the advocates say they have signatures. the anti-abortion movement is taking the signatures away from

them. it's not a clear cut deal whether the ballot initiative will be on in november. when it comes back to the doctors, there's so much fear and anxiety. his office has been inundated with calls of women that are confused. he might have to close down and only use the clinic in nevada. a lot of questions here, i should say, rather, in arizona, as all of this plays out, katy. >> on that ballot initiative, let's ask chris love. i mean, you're the spokesperson for arizona for abortion access. how does the anti-abortion movement take votes away, signatures away from this amendment, this proposed amendment. >> well, i can tell you right now their efforts to stop people from signing our petition haven't been successful because we announced that we have 500,000 arizona voters who want to see this on the ballot. there are a few ways that our opposition can challenge signatures that happens after we turn in all of our signatures on

the july 3rd deadline. we'll have an opportunity to look and do a line by line challenge and the hundreds of thousands of signatures we hope to submit. that is why we aim to collect more than double the amount of required valid signatures in order to ensure that we make it on to the ballot in november. >> what does the amendment say? >> it enshrines the right to abortion up to fetal viability. after fetal viability, it should be made between the pregnant person and the physician. to protect health or for their mental and physical health or their life. >> what are you getting? what's your sense of how arizona is react something you're talking about want to go collect double the amount of signatures. have you had any surprises or been -- had an expectation overturned in terms of the

reaction to the supreme court in arizona ruling? >> i think arizonians are devastated that our supreme court in 2024 decided to uphold a law dating back to 1864, a civil war era law, a law that was created before we were even a state, and before black women like myself even had the right to vote. we have just seen a ground swell of support since the decision came down on tuesday. folks really wanting to get involved, sign our petition. circulate our petition and get other signatures and also help us with funding the campaign. arizona voters across the political spectrum, want to see this issue on the ballot, and they believe firmly that pregnant people should have the freedom to make these decisions about abortion with their medical providers and with their families, and without government interference or activist judges. >> chris love, thank you, spokesperson for the arizona for abortion access campaign. also yamiche alcindor and ashley parker, thank you for your

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. they are called the double haters, the voters who don't like donald trump and don't like joe biden. they could be the ones who decide the election. who will convince them to vote? will it be someone who himself has been a detractor, perhaps someone like joe manchin. joining us now, the democratic senator from west virginia, outgoing, joe manchin. senator, it's really good to have you. welcome. >> it's great to be with you, katy. how are you doing? we're here in chicago, the chicago university institute of politics, and they had a big conference bridging the divide, and i have my dear friend heidi

highcamp here, and rob portman and i worked together for many years, bringing the senate together, bringing congress together, and now with my daughter, we're working on, today we just launched americans together, a web site we have and we'd like for you to go on americanstogether.com. i think you'll enjoy it, and it will teach you and help you navigate what you want to change in your state and why it needs changed. >> that's interesting. i want to get to that in a moment, and i love the company you're with out there. i want to ask you something that i was talking to a voter about a little bit earlier today, a woman named esther who's from iowa, i told her you were going to be on the show, and i said if you were to ask joe manchin one question, what would it be. and she said, i want to know who he's going to endorse. >> well, i have said publicly that i can not for the love of my country endorse or support donald trump. i think there's a lot of things he has done in the past, i worked with him i liked and try to work with him. but there's things i'm concerned about, the democracy we have, the rule of law, the order ler

transfer of power, weaponizing the judiciary. things that i think threaten democracy. on the other hand, they have asked me about my friend joe biden, who i have known for a long time. and i want joe biden to be the joe biden i've known forever. okay. always working a deal. always wanting to bring people together. which he has campaigned in 2020. i think his staff has taken him too far left. i don't believe that's where he needs to be. i don't believe that's where he has internally, never has been, and love to see him come back to that. i'm still working hard, trying to see if i can help a little bit there. >> are you waiting for him to move. is that what you're holding your endorsement for? >> i think he needs to move. i really do. the people want to say, we made a mistake at the border, a big mistake at the border, but he's willing to fix it. >> they did propose the immigration bill which got nowhere. it was a more conservative bill than liberal and it didn't get out of the senate. >> it was a very good bill. >> when you're asking about immigration what more do you

want joe biden to do? >> well, first of all, if you want to blame joe biden, it's his fault for what happened, but he did it for a sympathetic way, empathetic towards what was happening after a pandemic. he saw we were getting overrun, and now he comes to an agreement, really a border security bill, that would work, and donald trump moves in and says, oh, i'm sorry, i can't do that because it's not good for my campaign or politics, let's wait. that's as bad if not worse than making a mistake on the beginning. with that, i said, okay, let's fix it. i'm begging him now, if this can't be fixed in congress to basically do and declare a national emergency because the border is of a national concern and national emergency. >> i hear you that you're waiting for joe biden to move to the middle on some of these issues where you believe he's been in the past, isn't it a binary choice, if you're talking about how donald trump is a threat. you said he scares the bejesus

out of you, you talk about how he's not great for democracy. you just mentioned it now, isn't that a binary choice. don't the policy differences with joe biden not really matter what you're talking about somebody else who's running against him, the other person who would win. it's one or the other. >> katy, the person who's going to win the election is the people who don't sit on the sidelines. donald trump has a strong base. his base is going to vote. joe biden does not have as strong of a base as it could be and should be. i want that base to be stronger. and they're not going to get stronger and more committed unless they see a movement toward the center, and it's the center left and right where you run your life, it's how we built this country. it's the democracy we have. he has been pushed too far to the left. joe biden will come back, i think he will, i hope he does. >> have you been talking to him? >> let me say one more thing, katy. just the energy, we're more energy independent today than we have been in 40 years. we are producing more fossil

cleaner and better than anywhere in the world. we're producing more energy than any place else in the world, yet the administration can't take credit for that. joe biden signed the bill. he should be taking credit. we have produced more energy, created more jobs and opportunities and invested more in clean technology than ever before. it's all of the above energy policy but the far left can't accept that. they want to shut down everything in fossil and you can't run this great country. we can't help our allies and secure the world as we know it because it's going to demand more and more energy with all the things we're doing. >> senator, have you been talking to president biden where you want him to be? >> we have talked about it, absolutely. absolutely. and we're going to continue to talk. >> it sound like to me you're waiting, and there will be an endorsement before november, and it's not going to be donald trump. it just sounds like right now, you're trying to use your influence and leverage to try to move him on issues but that you do understand it's a binary choice, and ultimately you're going to come out on his side,

is that wrong? >> hold up, hold up. i need to tell you this, i know where you're going. there's too many people i know sitting on the sidelines that won't vote for either one. they're the ones that have to make a choice. they're not going to make their choice. i know right now they're going to say we have to play the base, far left base or far right base. donald trump has his base secured. joe biden does not have his base secured, and if the far left is scaring him, making him believe, we're going to leave you if you do things more rational and a centrist approach. i'm telling you there's people not going to vote at all. they need to make their mind up, but he has to give them a reason. >> are you going to be one of those people? >> we're going to basically hopefully move everything to where everyone can make a sensible decision. >> but are you going to sit on the sidelines come november? >> oh, i've never sat on the sidelines, we'll have to wait and see how it goes. let me ask you, you're

talking about the country needing to come to the center more. part of the issue is that, you know this, it's gerrymandering, you can't get elect instead a lot of places unless you're really extreme. that's why we're seeing what we're seeing in congress, where you serve, in the house, even in the senate because primaries are extreme in the senate as well. how do you move back to the center with the current system that's in place? >> katy, my daughter heather has put together something that i didn't realize how absolutely challenging and why our country has gotten so divided. it's the politics that wants you to be divided. the people in america, 55 to 60% of us live in the middle. we are what we call common sense. we're sensible. we make decisions based on what's sensible and what works. but that's not what we're given. what you're given in washington, the extreme of one or the other. better pick a side. there's only one side, the american side. if you'll go to

americanstogether.com. put on your state, your district, and find out the crazy gerrymandering in your district. go look at the lines that were drawn, and there's no open primaries. we'll even show you in your state, the primary process thank you very much to overcome, but until we start informing and assisting people and their states of how they can overcome this, open primaries would be great. term limits would be great for congress and for the senate, and for congress and also even for the supreme court. it would all be great. >> civics is important. i think more people need to know more about where they live and how the system works. i agree with you on that. let me ask you one more question before we go. how do you think the house is doing, the house right now, the gop-led house in the session? have they done a good job? >> let's just say this, they have done a horrible job. we all have done a horrible job, but the house has basically caught themselves in a quagmire they can't escape right now. to give you the facts that we're dealing with, every congress, a

two-year term of congress, 117th, we're in the 118th now. in the two-year time period, over the course of history, we usually pass about 500 to 520 bills. to date, katy, we have only passed 69 bills. the 117th congress we came out of will be one of the most productive, best congresses we have ever had. the 118th we're in right now with the republicans leading in the house will be the least productive, the worst producing for the american people that we've ever had in the history of the united states of america. i need to say no more. that's it. >> read between the lines, you're telling us who you think does a better job legislating. senator joe manchin, really good to have you, thank you very much. i hope you enjoy the city of chicago. go get some -- i don't want to call it pizza. it's not pizza, it's more like a cake, but enjoy it. >> it's all good. i love chicago. it's all good, and we have a lot of friends here, and a lot of

coworkers, but i'm going to tell you, really, university of chicago, institute of politics is really something special. i'm proud of that. >> it is a wonderful city. i love it there. senator joe manchin from a wonderful state, west virginia, a place i love as well. >> the best of the best. >> almost heaven. what speaker mike johnson is doing in mar-a-lago as he fends off threats to take the gavel. plus, after months of legal maneuvers and a string of long shot appeals, it is happening. the first criminal trial of the former president starts monday. what's in store for donald trump? trump?

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what is house speaker mike johnson doing today at mar-a-lago? billed as an election integrity gathering, is that what johnson is there for. joining us from west palm beach,

nbc news correspondent, ali vitali. is he there to talk about election security or is there something else going on? >> reporter: yes and no. there's always something else going on, katy. on its face, this is a gathering that will be focused on a policy the house will get to the next few weeks or months, focused on election integrity, and the idea of noncitizen voting. that's illegal, and pretty easy to prosecute in the instances where someone does violate that law. what's actually going on here is the larger landscape on capitol hill. mike johnson, several enemies who were not fans of how he handled one piece of legislation regarding government surveillance and data privacy. he had the ire of congressman marjorie taylor greene who was threatening a motion to vacate, even before they left on recess two weeks. now he's saying, she has more reason to believe he could be ousted but hasn't pulled the trigger on that quite yet. that's partly why he's coming here to mar-a-lago, and in my

conversations, katy, with multiple republican lawmakers as i was leaving town yesterday and they were leaving town today, they believe this was less about the election integrity, and more about the proximity to power, and the protection that he could offer him. now, you and i both have covered trump long enough to know it doesn't always go the way folks who are seeking his help think it's going to go. if they take questions from reporters here that we could end up seeing him put between a rock and a hard place between one ally, marjorie taylor greene and the other ally, speaker mike johnson, going to be interesting to see the way trump navigates that. the thinking, being at mar-a-lago, is going to help mike johnson. >> look at kevin mccarthy, isn't he the best example of this? kevin mccarthy went down to mar-a-lago, resurrected donald trump. he was on the phone with him all the time, allegedly. he was pretty close to the guy, and does he have the speakership anymore, no, he does no the.

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there is now only a weekend between donald trump and american history. on monday he becomes the first former president to ever stand criminal trial. jury selection will begin in the hush money trial which d.a. alvin bragg will argue is actually a case about election interference. what does that mean donald trump was allegedly doing wrong? and who will be called in to try and prove it? nbc's yasmin vossoughian takes us through the key figures. >> the trump hush money case is the first of four criminal cases to move to trial. former president donald trump was charged with 34 counts of falsifying records in the first degree. trump is not the only one involved. michael cohen will likely be the star witness in the hush money case. he was donald trump's lawyer and fixer, and on august 21st, 2018, he pled guilty to eight counts in manhattan federal court. and cohen alleged in a court of

law donald trump directed him to make illegal payments to influence the 2016 election. which trump denies. >> i did it at the direction of and for the benefit of donald j. trump. >> cohen was sentenced to three years in prison. he alleges he orchestrated payoffs two two women who said they had affairs with donald trump, including stormy daniels. he says he sought reimbursement from trump and even recorded one of their conversations about it. the fbi seized that tape during a raid on cohen's residence and office. cohen's attorney released it to the media. adult film actress, stormy daniels, also known as stephanie clifford said she met donald trump in 2006 at a celebrity golf tournament when he was the host of the apprentice. >> who loves the apprentice. >> stormy says they had sex that night and he offered to cast her in the apprentice, which trump denies. in 2011, the story leaked, stormy says she gave an interview to a tabloid magazine

for $15,000. it remained unpublished until 2018, but two years earlier when donald trump was running for president, a tape from "access hollywood" leaked which prosecutors say caused panic within the trump campaign. two weeks later, stormy daniels was paid $130,000 by trump's attorney. michael cohen. karen mcdougal is an ex playboy model and says she had an affair with donald trump. they allegedly met in 2006 at the playboy mansion, and she says they dated for nearly a year. donald trump denies they had a relationship. in 2016, when donald trump received the republican nomination, mcdougal's story leaked. ami, the owner of the "national enquirer" offered her $150,000. >> they wanted to squash the story. >> michael cohen says he orchestrated the deal for ami to buy mcdougal's story but never publish it, to help trump in the

2016 election. allegations trump denies. allen weisselberg was the trump organization's chief financial officer. he was mentioned several times as being part of the hush money plot. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up. >> in july of 2021, allen weisselberg and the trump corporation were indicted for scheming to defraud tax authorities at the federal, state and local levels. he was sentenced to five months in prison and agreed to plead guilty and be a witness against the trump organization. >> they're looking to squeeze him, again, still to possibly get to donald trump. >> on march 4th, 2024, allen weisselberg pled guilty to perjury and lying under oath in the trump civil fraud case, a deal that sends him back to prison but does not require him to testify in the hush money case. he's not been charged in that case. he's currently serving five months in prison.

manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and his team are the prosecutors in the trial. bragg is a harvard-educated democrat and former assistant attorney general of new york. on december 6th, 2022, d.a. bragg secured the conviction of the trump corporation and the payroll corporation for conspiracy, criminal tax fraud, and falsifying business records. >> the focus in the last 24 hours has been almost exclusively on trump. >> then on march 30th, 2023, donald trump was indicted by d.a. alvin bragg in a manhattan court. days later he was arraigned. yasmin vossoughian, nbc news. >> joining us now, nbc news senior correspondent garrett haake, good to have you. two days left, how is donald trump handling this? >> we'll probably find out in 45 minutes to an hour when he has this news conference at mar-a-lago with mike johnson on another topic. we have not seen very much of

trump over the last couple of weeks. he has been preparing for the trial to start, meeting with lawyers. he has been posting about it on social media, which is always a pretty good window into his mind, and you see his frustration with the judge in particular and with the gag order that he feels like is limiting his ability to cast this in the political terms that he wants it to be in. how much of this news conference today is about its official topic, election interference and how much of it is about this trial. i think it will be about the best rosetta stone we can get for exactly what's on trump's mind. >> that's a very good point. let's also ask about what donald trump is going to be doing for the next several weeks. this trial could last six weeks. starts on monday, keeps him off the campaign trail except for the weekends and holidays, and puts him in a courtroom. >> that's right. this is normally a period in the presidential calendar in a normal year, which this is anything but, that tends to be focused most of the time for the presumptive nominee on

fundraising. we're going to see that from donald trump, particularly given the way the trial is expected to work, trial monday, tuesday, thursday and friday. we're going to see the lot of donald trump going finance events during the week, campaigning in big events like we'll see this weekend on weekends interspersed along the way. that's not a huge departure from how he has run his campaign so far, a low total volume of events. if this goes longer than expected, if it lends itself to being further into the spring and summer, and he's still basically tied up for four days a week, that's the kind of thing that could work against him. make no mistake, he will use the platform that the trial presents to them as a political platform, as an opportunity to campaign, even if it's just walking down the street to 40 wall street and complaining to the cameras after a long day in court. >> garrett haake, thank you very much. still ahead, u.s. government employees in israel are being told not to travel. what officials are warning could unfold in a matter of hours on

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>> are american personnel at risk? mr. president, are american troops at risk as well? >> we are devoted to the defense of israel. we will support israel. we will help defend israel, and iran will not succeed. >> president biden telling iran not to strike israel. it is a tense moment in that country. some would argue the most tense moment since october 7th. there are real fears within israel that iran could attack soon, and the u.s. state department is restricting travel for its staff in the country. joining us now, nbc news correspondent courtney kube. so what does the pentagon have on this today? >> reporter: so right now, everyone is watching to see if there could be some sort of retaliation. keep in mind, the pentagon has been watching for this retaliatory action for more than a week now. this is something that's not unexpected. ever since the israeli military took that strike in damascus, killing those senior iranian

officials, including a very senior member of the iranian guard corp., iran has been telegraphing that for several days now. what will that look like. now, u.s. officials feel pretty confident that iran is not looking to escalate the situation, and in fact, any action that they will take is expected to be somewhat proportional in what we saw in damascus, meaning there's an expectation they could try to strike against a facility that may be seen as a consular facility, perhaps an intelligence facility as opposed to going after israeli civilians. now, that being said, that leaves open a lot of possibilities, including a potential action inside israel, but also against other sites in the region, and katy, today we're learning from three u.s. officials that the u.s. military is repositioning some military assets in the region in advance of this possible retaliation. now, this includes both ships

and air craft that are just, again, being moved around in the region to be ready should there be something that leads to escalatory action. i have to tell you, katy, all we are hearing at the pentagon and from officials around d.c. is there is an effort to tamp this down, and they believe the iranians don't want the situation to escalate into a larger regional conflict. >> when president biden says we've got israel's back against iran, what does that mean if iran strikes? >> reporter: keep in mind, if in fact, depending on where this retaliatory action happens, it's possible the u.s. military could have action there. they could be involved in shooting something down or intercepting an attack. >> courtney kube, thank you very much, and an afghan migrant on the terrorist watch list was arrested by u.s. border patrol agents last night after a year in the united states. nbc's julia ainsley has that exclusive reporting. >> reporter: an alarming development in the border crisis, among the record number of migrants crossing the

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according to the dhs inspector general. it comes as president biden faces fierce criticism of his handling of the border crisis is. including from former president trump. >> many terrorists at the highest level are coming a into our country. >> reporter: percentage of people apprehended is a small fraction of all migrants encountered. .02% under president biden, .05% during the trump administration. >> any terrorist is unacceptable. >> we pressed a former top i.c.e. official in the biden administration about how a member of a terror group could be released into the u.s. by dhs. >> this is very rare. there's a large capacity and capability for border patrol, i.c.e., federal law enforcement and the interagency is to identify, vet these individuals as they come to the border. >> reporter: there are fears about tens of thousands of migrants now evading agents as they crossed the southern border. the chief recently calling it a

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outraged. national protests erupted in his name over racism and gun violence. now in an exclusive interview, the 17-year-old sits down with antonia hylton to tell her what his life is like now. >> one year ago, ralph was just 16 years old. he loved nature walks with family, jumping on trampolines and playing in the high school band. that was ralph before april 13th, 2023. this is ralph now. >> i try to keep a sense of normalcy so i can continue being the person that i am and that i used to be. >> forever changed when rang the doorbell of the wrong home while trying to pick up his twin brothers and an 85-year-old shot him twice in the head and arm. his survival deemed a miracle. >> would you say it's been harder to physically recover or mentally recover? >> definitely mentally. >> ralph suffered splitting

headaches, always an a student, he now struggles to study. in the last few months, he crashed his car twice. his mother and aunt say sometimes he can't sleep. other times he sleeps too much. >> when you have trauma initially there's the shock of all of it. then everything starts to sim isser. and you start to realize how life is not what it used to be. >> ralph and his friends are struggling to process three shootings in their hometown over the last year. ralph's classmate's killing and the chiefs parade shooting. >> it's like a constant nagging of watch your surroundings. >> in october andrew lester, who has pled not guilty and told police he was scared to death, will stand trial for ralph's shooting. >> he's comfortable enjoying his old age. >> reporter: ralph hasn't even considered forgiving the man,

who in an instant brought his childhood to an end. >> has he ever asked for your forgiveness? >> no. >> the family speaking out to remind the country we can't forget. we can't become desensitized. >> we are tired of people saying you're in theymy thoughts and prayers. we need to get out of your thoughts and prayers and get into your actions. >> if not for their sake, they say, for the next child harmed by gun violence in america. >> it's still a miracle he's aloif. that's it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi, everyone. happy friday. it's 4:00 in new york. the nypd, secret service, a small army of lawyers and the more than 500 new yorkers who were told to report to jury duty on monday are set to play a part in history.