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number 10. he will be sing what can we do to speak to our allies, the united states. there will be a g7 meeting that biden has come today to say that what can we possibly do to take the heat out of this? the world is deeply worried that this could escalate and not just military complement consequences, but financial consequences around the world. so i think the g7 meeting, burton will say look, we are reporting for duty. anything we can do to take the heat out of this we will do. >> briefly, what you think he will do? what are you thinking at this moment? what are his choices? if any? >> i think exactly that, to show off the duty of the g7 meeting, constantly unclearly and what diplomacy can be used around the world to take the heat out of this? we have got a limited role in that, but that means largely being behind biden and that you fully support what the american policy is. >> we will come back to you in
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a moment. it is now 9:00. you are watching sunday morning with trevor phillips. revor phi united states. iran says the attack has concluded that israel remains on high alert. no one was killed in there was almost no damage. it is de-escalation and is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has spoken to president joe biden who will call a meeting of g-7 leaders later. in the g-last hour, the secreta told this program that the united kingdom military jets were sent to the region overnight but the government here wants to see de-escalation. let's get the latest now again from the region. our correspondent is live in jerusalem for us. alastair, the israeli war cabinet is going to meet today.
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what will be in front of that group? and what do you think they will be saying to each other? r? >> reporter: they will be doing a situational assessment. firstly they will be looking ate what they know about the attacks last night. what did iran use to throw at israel and not just iran, we know that the attacks also emanated from lebanon, yemen, and iraq. so, what intelligence had they gathered to build a bigger and more detailed picture about this iranian attack and how well did their own systems and i should add to that, their own allegiance with the united states and united kingdom, how well did they function in terms of protecting israel? the answer is very well indeed. the idea in their preliminary assessment believe 99% of the drones and missiles fired at israel were shut down.
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if you look at the damage assessment, that is pretty minimal, too. a child in the south of the country badly injured, but i think doing okay. the only injury we have been told about in terms of actual material damage, the worst seems to be a direct hit on a israeli air base but not so severe that it has stopped the airbase from function. the military this morning were broadcasting live footage of jets taking off and landing there. to make that point. so, israel, in a way, has sustained an unprecedented, very large attack, more than 300 jets and more than 130 ballistic missiles but it has mi sustained and has defended its guide successfully. it has come away from pretty much unscathed. so, that will be seeing as a major plus point but will
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retaliation from israel's position be necessary? because image is everything her in the middle east and israel will want to make sure it has restored. >> thank you very much. mu back with me now is our international affairs editor. let's talk about the politics in israel and then the wider situation. they were saying that there is an issue here which is within israel itself, what is good for benjamin netanyahu may not be great for israel. so, what about the politics of israel and how was that going to affect the decision-making of the war cabinet? >> the background for this is un before the war and october 7th and the terrible day of massacres and the area around gaza, benjamin netanyahu was a
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weakened prime minister. he was trying to push through judicial reforms that had alienated the more liberal secular part of israeli society and it was a more divided and polarized society. the people we were speaking to, a man whose family was kidnapped, but saw himself as a secular israeli living in tel aviv. he said, i want to go to war. i am waiting for my recruiting papers, but i am being t criticized by all the groups that that i wasn't patriotic during the protest we've been carrying out against benjamin netanyahu. this war hasn't helped in some ways around that but has rounded israelis around the government, particularly around the military. i think what is happened overnight will have strengthened many to some point but i think
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there will be israelis who will be worried about the fact that the attack on the embassy and damascus on april 1st led to this but i think israelis will be reassured by the fact that it seems their air defenses held up and very much so that the allies, the british, french, german, and reckons, rallied around israel but also some arab states seem to help israel. but i think at the heart of it, israelis remain deeply worried. they are in a situation where the war in gaza does not seem to be achieving any of its objectives. and the region is certainly not getting any more stable. >> i'm going to come back and ask you about that a little bit later, but i want to talk to -- i want to bring you the interview we did earlier on with yvette cooper. labore condemns what he called the unacceptable attacks by the
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israeli regime and says the party will stand up for israel security and we must do all we can to prevent a wider war. a a little earlier, i spoke to i the secretary yvette cooper. >> we strongly condemn this reckless attack by iran on israel. there has been a real concern from the very beginning about the risks of escalation and whilst the international community has been urging restraint dead, iran has chosen to do the opposite. i think all of our concerns will be for the security of th people across the region now and it is very important that everything possible is done to prevent further escalation and to try and maintain people's security in the region. >> the risk of escalation in a moment, but it is reported that there has been british military
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involved. we are not clear about what it is, but rf has been involved in some way, shape or form. are you supportive of that? >> as you said, we don't know the details but clearly it is in everyone's interest to e' prevent the iranian attack actually having a much potentially more serious impact on people's lives in, of course, if uk forces are involved as part of the defense, that is really important and you would expect that sort of thing to happen but i think the most important thing now is to prevent escalation. this is about the security of israel, e but also the security of jordan, iraq, other partners that we have in the region, and people across the middle east where the government has rightly said it is working now to try to stabilize the situation.
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the uk government that it is working to stabilize the situation because nobody wants to see further blood to take place. >> i know it is impossible in these kinds of situations to be precise about what your reaction might be, but broadly speaking, were our government to decide that it had to engage in the military fashion, and anyway, would labor broadly speaking be in support of that if it is part of something that the allies of israel undertake? >> i think this is exactly the wrong time to speculate about me what may happen next. both the uk government and the prime minister say the importance of the international work now in order to prevent further escalation in the region. nobody wants to see a wider regional war in the middle east and that is what all efforts
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now have to be around. there has been talk about the u.n. security council discussing this around the g-7 discussing this as well. i think that is what everyone is focusing on but this has been part of a continued operation by iran, by the iranian regime, to destabilize the middle east often through different proxies, through support for hezbollah, or for hamas. and the security threats that that can compose. it's really important that restraintst is part of what th international committee has been urging. and to strongly condemn the response from iran. >>ro the key player today, of course, will be israel itself. there are many voices saying, as you say, restraint, but there are also voices israel has to do demonstrate that it will be pushed around and it is strong and sound. what would be your message to
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the israeli war cabinet? >> i think our concern is for, as it has always been through this, is to ensure that we don't have a wider regional war take place in the middle east. that would be deeply damaging for israel, it could be deeply damaging for people living across the middle east. that is immensely important. to do something that the uk government has talked about the labor party, the labor party has talked about all through this. we obviously are continuing to argue for the immediate cease- fire that is needed in gaza where so many lives have been lost, where we need the release of the hostages, and we need not just the security, but also the humanitarian aid that is definitely needed but we also in the light of what is wh happening, we need this concerted action of all
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countries, not just in the region, but internationally, working to prevent further escalation in the light of these appalling attacks. >>pa this is the middle east an gaza specifically. there are different views within the party. is there any risk here, do you think, that there may be different points of view emerging because there are some people, i guess, in the labor party who say the problem with israel's attack on damascus. >> we have seen -- there is a history here for iran's operations in the region. we have seen not just their operations in the region, but i obviously seen deeply concerning over some time operations in other countries as well. including concerns about the rgc operations in the uk where we have seen attacks on iranian, the journalist and other
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concerns more widely about security as well as their long- standing operations within the region. that is why i think it is important for all of us to of strongly condemn the iranian de attacks and their decision to escalate things. so, i think that is important and i think everybody would agree with that. >> all right. you won't be surprised that i want to ask you about the situation with -- there is a police investigation going on so obviously we can't discuss right and wrongs of that, but one of the things i think is interesting is she repeatedly said that she was advised legally, she done nothing wrong, but they say a member of his team have not seen that advice and is -- is he reluctant to trumped up why does he not know what databases? >> angela welcomes the
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opportunity to set out all of the facts. the police, the hr mc, or the appropriate authorities. in iashe has done the right thi by taking an independent legal advice and has been clear throughout that she has acted in accordance with it. i wouldn't expect to see her personal advice to personal finances of any of my colleagues but i think angela has handled this in the right way. i welcome the opportunity to be able to. >> that really wasn't what i asked about her is puzzling that the leader says members of my team have read this advice but i have not. is that delivery? >> i think that is a perfectly reasonable thing. >> you used to criticize boris johnson for not reading his no papers but this is a big deal a
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for labor. why doesn't he acquaint himself with his own deputy's defense and advice? >> they have a strong team around him and rightly so. that is why i think not only have they looked at this and be clear about it, but also angela has as well. angela is a brilliant deputy leader of our party and she will continue campaigning and continue working. just as all of us are. she will not be deterred by b what we know will be political questions. >> you say that, but let's be honest. the reason this is an issue more than any other, some people would say and i think i would agree, at some level it is not the biggest of deals, however, here is the reason why it is a problem for angela. when boris johnson was investigated she insisted that
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the mere fact of an of investigation being launched should have been enough to provoke his resignation. here is what she said. boris johnson's downing street is under investigation -- how on earth does she think she can stay at deputy leader of the labor party? >> i think these are different circumstances. the issues that have been raised, about what happened nearly 10 years ago before angela became an mp. >> she said somebody is under investigation and they shouldn't be in high office. >> this is about the context of the investigation that was happening while the prime minister was in downing street at already been raising continuing concerns. about what he had said in parliament, about him misleading parliament, about not getting accurate information when he was responsible for all of these things. i do think -- >> why do the rules apply to
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him and not to her? >> there is a different situation and i think angela i has said at one point she said, if the prime minister was to publish all of his tax returns from the time before he was an mp, she would do the same. this is a different situation a because we are talking before angela became an mp. but the only thing that is different here is that angela has said, which is all was stripped up also what you said around the allegations, about it was if she has committed a criminal offense she would resign. we never had that not just from the former prime minister that the current prime minister and a series of other conservatives. i think there is a big is difference and that is why i think everybody supports the strong campaigning that angela is doing. >> we shall see how this develops.
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thank you for your time. still with me is craig oliver, -- tom, i guess that is the right place for them to be, isn't it? >> i think it also holds the government to account. is not unquestioning a position and you have seen labor shift position in accordance with events. now scrutinizing whether it should begin the himself to israel. i think it is the right thing to do. but if we are going to get anything other than regional proxy or global -- in the end, there will have to be compromised. there will have to be a cease- fire and further steps towards some sort of solution. there are lots of activists who don't want that. i think nobody is right to continue to have a nuanced grown-up stable position
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because in the end, there was a big speech about this, the color of peace is never black or white. it is always gray. we do not need posturing hybrid as politicians. >> you were saying earlier on, this is the way labor demonstrates readiness for government but craig oliver, can they -- is it a factor for the government, number 10, how the opposition behaves? >> to an extent. i think the reality is the opposition will never make a huge amount of impact in the in circumstances. i think what yvette cooper was trying to do is take the i opportunity to reassure people that the labour party has changed dramatically from the days of -- as i was listening to her, i was imagining what this day would be like. the labour party would be a painful day with lots of people
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attacking the labour party. what she has effectively done is say, look, we are grown up and we are going to support our government and the u.s. government. >> i think that is actually the rope as far as domestic politics goes opposition peer to present themselves as grown- ups who the public could imagine sitting in that room and running things. i think possibly at the moment, the only good -- in the conservative deck of cards is i david cameron. when you put them trumped up it doesn't look as much of a grown- up. so, i would not be surprised to see more. i wouldn't be surprised to see quite a bit more of him. >> if he wants to call and we will take his call. next, just how big of a threat to the conservative party -- we
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were going to talk to reform but he had to move to next weekw we are going to go to a break. r thank you very much.
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gold earlier in the program the health secretary told us uk military jets were sent to the middle east but this was thought to be in support of other ongoing operations in the region. let's talk now to our event editor deborah haines was in brussels. good morning. >> good morning. >> what is our role here? what is the uk play? >> the uk is a close supporter of israel but it is taking an interesting stance in terms of the way it is describing its role. the u.s. military has very clearly said it's just for flying in support of the
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israeli operations to defend its airspace overnight from this unprecedented irani barrage of ballistic crews missiles and explosive drones. for the uk, they said they deployed additional jets, along with refueling tanker aircraft. to an airbase we have where the uk already has a deployment. it has been there for years operating against islamic states in iraq and syria. ostensibly, this increase in jets to cyprus has been part of operation shade so not an admission however, the aircraft that were deployed last night, and they don't deploy every night so the fact that they were is clearly because of this that there was happening. this note attack that was coming from
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iran. they were given permission to shoot down any iranian missiles or drones. as part of that mission. which would mean it would be in an area that they would be operating in. they were not flying around israeli airspace or irani and airspace. they would have been over iraq and syria airspace because that is where the mission is conducted. we don't know yet what, if anything, they did shoot down, but if they had permission to do that, you can expect perhaps they did use that in the ministry of defense will surely update us on what it was doing. i was also told this operation, they described it as -- basically they were filling in for american jets that would have otherwise perhaps been doing that so the american aircraft could focus on israeli mission. it was all part of what was happening overnight but the uk
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has chosen to be a little bit distant in the way describing the support it was given and, of course, behind the scenes, with british officials and american officials, western officials have known that ever since that strike which iran has squarely blamed on israel and israel has not commented on, against that syrian, against that irani consulate holding, that there would be a response and the big thing now is to contain that but that seems very difficult after last night's barrage. >> thank you very much. let's go back to our panel. craig, you were looking a little bit doubtful at the last thing that deborah said there. >> i think deborah is reporting the facts accurately, but i think the interpretation of
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what is going on last night i would put more emphasis on the british involvement. when i spoke to people this morning, what they are saying it was pretty major american campaign to defensive missiles coming through. the british jets were involved making sure they were backfilling that support operation. i said expect at the day goes on we will hear more about that. it is significant to the extent which the americans were doing that but that we are singling hard that they will be part of defending israel if push comes to shove as it did last night. >> i think it is worth noting that what's being reported and israel is not being reported here. they were reporting that jets shot down irani and drones last night. they haven't commented either way yet, but that might be because i haven't related those words and they might be waiting for washington to wake up as
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well. >> we actually are not reporting that. we don't have any confirmation. call us over scriptures, but that is how we are here at sky. let's talk a little bit about the situation in the whole of the region. actually, that account tells us that there is a dizzying array of players now. and one thing that we do know is the iranians tactically like chaos and like instability and volunteer. do you think at some level what is now happening is there will be a shakeup. they see him coming to you first. they have clearly join as it were this alliance >> i think that comes back to what we were saying earlier about whether this is a strategic error. iran definitely like chaos and
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it has tried and had to retaliate after the april 1st attack in damascus. you can see what they were trying to achieve. it is interesting that so far it has brought western eyelets together in support of israel which i don't think what they wanted but it is fragile. that alliance is fragile and there is a lot of criticism of israel. >> i think it is very difficult for the jordanian and iraqi government to be seen as defending israel and then not. what they are doing is trying to prevent further escalation and shooting those missiles down last night may, may have helped further escalation. >> it would have been important decision for the iraqis to make to allow british and american fighters to operate in their airspace. >> they have been for some time. i think that is a significant thing but if you're talking
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about the region in general, a lot of people look back over the last 10 or 20 years and think iran has become stronger and stronger. a lot of people blame the invasion of iraq is causing that, but the strength that iran is deeply worrying. and also working with other authoritarian regimes. the relationships with russia, that kind of thing, are deeply concerning and a bigger geopolitical game is at play here. >> i think it is probably worth saying also that iran itself has its own internal troubles. i mean, it has a very young population which perhaps isn't quite stuck into the ayatollah thing as one might imagine that they have had instability, particularly about the treatment of women internally. to some extent, i wonder if what we are seeing here is not just iran retaliating but
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trying to demonstrate to its own people that it has guns. it has power. >> is easy when you are talking about geopolitics and forget that there are domestic politics as well. as well as international politics. i would also say that more countries around the world are having elections. very specifically the united states later this year. what will that do to the u.s./irani relationship? that will be significant if it is trumped account back into the white house. he has had plenty of dealings in that region in the past. lots of people will be thinking about november when they think about domestic politics. >> i want to talk about the g-7 and the u.n. security council later on, but let's take a break. we will look at the military options for both iran and israel and how a conflict could escalate.
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let's focus on the military action release overnight. although johnson missiles fired by iran were shot down by israeli defenses who support -- with support from their allies including the united kingdom and united states. we are speaking out to our military analysts. good morning. let's start with the iranians.
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people talk a lot about a calibrated response. what do you think the iranians hope to achieve? >> they certainly hope to achieve some hits and they got some. they seem to have gotten seven hits on an air base which is symbolically important to them. the base is the base where the f-35 base and it is where the f- 35s took off from there. so, as far as the iranians are concerned, they have hit the base from which the strike against her consulate was launched. it is reported that they have done some damage to outbuildings, but there are no casualties. there are reports around the world that the base had been completely wiped off the map, which is not true. this is from idea figures, they
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launch 110 ballistic missiles and seven got through. they launch 36 crews missiles, none got through. they launch 185 drones, none of them got through. statistically, less than 1% of their missiles got through. but the seven that, if all seven hit the airbase, that gives them a symbolic victory. so, any reasonable person might say, that is -for-tat in terms of damascus on the first of april and the base from which the attack was launched. maybe that should be the end to it. any reasonable person might say that, but we are dealing with netanyahu and the supreme leader . were not talking about reasonable. >> the situation doesn't make anybody reasonable. >> exactly. this round of conflict is starting with israelis and going after generals and in an
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embassy. going after icr g generals is acceptable in the sense that they are attacking israel. but going after the building in damascus is specifically against international law. israelis seem to do it out of the blue almost as if they wanted to provoke iran to see how much iran sweet, sweet and it -- the radios are saying this is the end of it and they have said this is our response. whether they will stick to that, we don't know. they probably got enough out of this. but if the symbolism of hitting the airbase is good enough, then maybe they will say, that's it. >> the outcome was never meant to be, as it were, a military advantage, but more one of storytelling, if i can put it that way. it's not going to convince anyone else.
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>> that storytelling began a few hours ago with editorials being written in newspapers and across the arab media that the airbase was wiped off the face of the earth which it clearly hasn't. different narratives might actually be a way out of this iteration of crisis but everyone assumes that israel having been struck, this is inside israeli territory, but given that irani missiles have struck inside israel, with the of his -- will be israelis say they won't respond. the general view is everyone will tell them not to respond. they americans will lean on them not to respond. this completes the cycle of violence from the first of april until now. but netanyahu won't be restrained because he is getting something out of this widening of the war. >> was try to understand what the israeli motivation is starting with, what do you think the advantage of
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attacking a consulate building was given that, as you say, it's not unique, but very unusual? it was bound to provoke a response. >> yes. the advantage is you know that you will catch a number of people there. so, the people they were after were in the building and it is a single target so technically it is a good target to hit but a bad target to hit in terms of legality and perception. israel has operated its war with iran, it's proxy war with the rent for the last 30 odd years in a choreographed way. this was taking a step out of the normal choreography because the israelis would say, look what happened on the 7th of october. the old rules don't apply but the rest of the roof has a problem with it. the western world want to support israel but they make it really difficult for supporters
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outside to keep supporting them when they push the boundaries all the time. in specific terms and in general terms. >> the other question, the military strategy here for me is hard to understand. why open a new front when you've already got a major thing going on to the south in gaza? >> because the war in gaza is not going terribly well for israel. it is strategically incoherent. in december, they had 18 brigades inside gaza, about 90,000 troops. then they went down to one brigade and i just put a second brigade in. now they have two inside gaza, about 6000 troops, which are not capable of doing anything but keeping the main road open. it is not clear where that offensive is going or what they are getting out of it because they after day, they are losing politically because of the casualty and their failure to finish off the last. the logic of widening this war is that for netanyahu, it
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begins to address for him his view of the real enemy. a number of people inside the israeli defense force establishment is saying, hamas is not our real enemy. they are a nuisance we have lived with since 2006, 2007. our real enemy is iran and locally hezbollah. the time has come to leave hamas on one side and addressed the bigger issue because this is now an existential crisis for us, this is the biggest crisis is 1948. our existence is on the line. get to the real enemy. there is a scent that that is a line of thinking thank you. that was very clarifying. and just a moment, we will hear from our panel once again.
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back to our panel. tom, g-7 called today and the security council i think later. does all that matter? >> it's americans. america's position matters. america is possibly the major player in the region. what joe biden says in his administration does really matters in the middle east. what britain says and does matter the whole lot less. we are not hugely influential in the middle east. what we need to do is build our
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influence up by showing stable partners to leaders like joe biden. and standing by our allies in nato. it's interesting when you think about foreign policy. he probably more than any leader of the opposition before him has significant foreign- policy experience. as a lawyer, a human rights lawyer, then as director of public prosecutions he represented brought -- written abroad. he represented in meetings and then he went around europe trying to get a better brexit deal then we got. this is someone who has worked for foreign governments before and he is learning on the job. i think he did screw up earlier in the comments he made about israel and gaza. but what is interesting is how he correct the mistake.
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he has learned a lot about this. >> more widely, craig, i am wondering if the people this morning, in the kremlin, i think it is a good point. >> he wants the attention of the world drawn elsewhere and i think that is one of the concerning things about this. you can point to a number of people around the world who actually have a vested interest in escalating this. you also have the g-7 and security council that i suspect will come out of the g-7 later is a united message about de- escalation. security council is much more interesting. what are they saying? what do they say in terms of the heat of the situation? a more interesting thing i suspect. >> the most important of all, the bits of diplomacy in the meeting was the call between biden and netanyahu which none
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of us are able to up there was a readout after were biden said he has called for restraint but that is probably the most important of all the bits of diplomacy. >> and it's having a very interesting impact on the u.s. election. interestingly the way the demographics in the u.s. are going at the moment, much more people worry about israel and a lot more people are more supportive of the palestinian side which is having an effect on joe biden. he is trying to bridge a difficult gap here. 100% support but what is the only democracy in the middle east are playing back home. >> we start after easter recess with some questions on wednesday and it's an interesting area. foreign-policy experience, which i think is interesting.
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you supported terrorist, you represented terrorist when you are a lawyer and you get the whole lefty lawyer nonsense. it will be interesting to see if this also takes some of the sting out of that. >> you mentioned the story and i talked to yvette cooper about it. i suspect that will probably dominate for some days to come. let's talk about the spin cycle on this. tom, there should have been something done before now, should there? >> probably. it's difficult to tell angela -- what to do. she is a strong and independently minded woman and this is about events before she was mp. it doesn't relate to what she's done in parliament. it's about before she was an mp and had clever accountants and tax lawyers.
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so, there is a kind of jumped up this is a hot issue and we know the cycle that plays out. incidentally, by someone who has avoided millions of pounds of tax, not 1000 pounds. >> let's be a little careful here. we don't -- when you say avoided, we know that is not unlawful, but we have to be careful. is a problem for her, but isn't the problem here that angela rayner herself is not hesitated on a hair trigger to go after just about anybody who might have done something that somebody else thinks is a bit dodgy? >> i hate this kind of politics. it is a status point into -- the problem that angela rayner has got is what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the
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gander. she can hardly be surprised when the entire conservative tech machine goes for her. i think they could have sorted it out earlier but they could have shown redacted evidence that showed what happened and whether or not she just paid the 1000 pounds and got it over with instead i suspect her sense of anger at the situation has since been -- it has clouded her judgment. it should have been dealt with a long time ago. >> i think all three of us have been in situations where we have had to spin stories for political parties and there was always that cliche that it's not the crime that brings you down, it's the cover-up. but sometimes it is a look of double standards. that is something that people really hate. what's good for the goose is good for the gander, but she is struggling with both of those things. it looks like a cover-up and
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what looks like deborah sanders. >> we have seen this movie before. we saw in 2022 when they accused angela rayner and then they reopened an investigation and. they were cleared. i think at the end of this, now they are trying to say she didn't register in the right place. you don't even get prosecuted for this year afterwards. they can't prosecute her for this. i think what we will see is a similar cycle. i am not a tax expert, but i think we are in the cycle where they are trying to show everyone is the same, everyone is and it's not the same. there is a difference. >> all of that relates to broader politics and democracy, there will be about in a couple weeks for quite a lot of people. local elections. what do you think, daisy? what will happen? does it matter? >> yes, it matters. it will influence the thinking
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of the political parties depending on how terrible a knife they have or how fantastic the night they have. there was a thought a few months ago that maybe there would have been a general election but obviously that was pushed to later in the year. yes, it will matter. i suspect turnout will be pretty rubbish because i think people feel so anti-politics. >> i think it will test the conservative party poker's ability to think two or three moves ahead. the reality is it will probably be a terrible night for the conservative party. do they start running around with her head on by saying let's get rid of our leader. but there could be a case for you see more damage. >> do you think that is possible? >> i think it is perfectly possible. what someone needs to say is that maybe individually in your interest to cause that outcome, but for the good of the
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conservative party long-term, it is not. whether or not the conservative party is capable of taking that lesson will be the really interesting session. >> someone needs to say it. favorite grand national yesterday? >> i think it's very volatile and that's because of the volatility and everyone i know is not taking anything for granted. >> thank you, oh, very much. been a busy day. that is it for this week. i will be back next sunday. it's been a pleasure to be with you. good morning.
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