it is good to be back with you for this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, two jurors dismissed before even more could be selected. the new problems today in trump's hush money case, and what it could mean for the time line of the trial. plus, prosecutors accusing trump of violating his gag order seven times.

will judge merchan agree and do anything about it? and with trump in court, president biden scores a big name endorsement months in the making. the kennedy clan comes out in force for joe biden and against another candidate. and the hundred million dollar federal settlement for survivors of larry nasser. the justice department failures and the 100 former usa gymnasts who may finally get some closure. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin right here in new york city with nbc's yasmin vossoughian who is outside the courthouse for us. so so many twists and turns already with jury selection at the former president's trial. it's about to pick up again any minute now. what's ahead? >> reporter: voir dire is next, chris. essentially they got the 18 jurors in the box. they have heard the answers to their 42 questions on the questionnaire. next step is we're going to hear from the prosecution and defense, asking them some very

specific questions about some of the things that they said. i want to read for you some of what we heard when it came to the question of impartiality and can they put their opinions aside. from one juror we heard, i do have opinions but i firmly believe i can be fair and impartial. and leave those outside of the facts of this case. another juror said, i do believe in innocent until proven guilty. they're going to be digging into statements like this from potential jurors. we started off with 96 potential jurors walking into the room, half come them subsequently walking out after the crucial question of can you be impartial, do you have any conflicts with this trial? one of those jurors that walked out actually talked to me a little bit earlier on today. let's take a listen to what she had to say. >> i was shocked. i was sitting on the second row, like, 6 feet away, and when i

realized that trump is there, i was like, oh, wow. i couldn't believe it. he doesn't look angry. i think he looks warm, like he wants us to finish. he looked less orange definitely, like more yellowish. >> reporter: chris, she just became a u.s. citizen. this is her first call to a jury, and she could be a potential juror in a trial with the former president of the united states. unbelievable even to think about, right? looking ahead, only five seated jurors at this moment because two of them as you mentioned, dropped out. so we're looking at trying to add seven at least to complete that jury pool. >> thank you so much, yasmin. let's go to dasha burns now because she is talking about the prosecution accusing trump of violating the gag order, not once, not twice, but seven times. what's the accusation and what do we know about what judge merchan may or may not do about

it? >> reporter: well, chris, this already came up as an issue earlier this week. on monday, the prosecution alleging that the former president violated the gag order three times and posts disparaging potential witnesses. now they're saying since monday, they allege he's violated it again seven more times. in particular, one of the more concerning posts was a quote from fox news host jesse waters reading, they are catching undercover liberal activists lying to the judge in order to get on the trump jury. so trump there on his social media platform quoting jesse waters, and this was actually a segment, chris, that really focused in on the jurors going over details of their biographies, including juror number 2 who today we know came in and said, you know what, i've been identified by too many people. i don't think i can be impartial, and was then excused. this goes to show how much this can really impact the process,

the jury selection process. now, the question is, what is judge merchan going to do about this? there's going to be a hearing on tuesday. the prosecution wants to add these additional examples since monday as evidence in that hearing. and he could fine the former president. he could go as far as threatening him with jail time. i'll leave it to the lawyers to get to the details of what actually makes sense in a case like this. we have known since this gag order came into place that this was going to be a challenge given the former president often prioritizes what happens in the court of public opinion over what happens in the actual court, chris. >> thank you so much, dasha burns. now, to that split screen. you've got donald trump on trial in new york. president biden is out on the campaign trail in pennsylvania, just getting a big endorsement. nbc's monica alba is reporting from philadelphia. what happened where you are?

>> reporter: yeah, chris, and this does really punctuate that split screen week that the biden campaign was going for with the president doing events in pennsylvania three days in a row culminating in this endorsement from about 15 members of the kennedy family backing the current president in his bid for reelection over their own sibling, their own relative, robert f. kennedy, jr., who of course is mounting that third-party candidacy. we know in terms of talking to the kennedy family members that this was a difficult decision for them. it was weeks and months in the making. they had visited the white house, and they had been with president biden a short time ago for st. patrick's day. and they really had been having these conversations behind the scenes about how do we deliver this message that robert f. kennedy jr.'s candidacy could potentially peel off some key votes in critical battleground states that could harm the president's bid here in this race. and they ultimately decided to

come together today and deliver a very clear message. here's part of that from kerry kennedy, one of robert f. kennedy jr.'s sister. >> he has us believing again, behaving like good neighbors again, he stepped into the flames of chaos and turned it into community. thank you, joe biden. [ applause ] we want to make crystal clear our feeling that the best way forward for america is to reelect joe biden and kamala harris to four more years. a vote for joe biden is a vote for our democracy and our decency. >> reporter: kennedy family members really did put it in those terms, that they believe

that their relatives candidacy here posts a risk to democracy and a threat to this election, and that's why they wanted to come out here today. as for the president, chris, he spoke about this in very personal terms saying that robert f. kennedy was one of his idols, one of his icons, somebody that he has always tried to emulate. he has a bust of him in the oval office that he talked about looking over at occasionally for inspiration. there's a real open question here about whether this moves the needle, what kind of a robert f. kennedy jr. voter would change their mind depending on family members who openly disagreed with him and coming out and endorsing the president. that's a question the biden campaign is comfortable raising and they tell me that they wanted to do this today. they wanted to do this at this point in the cycle. they didn't want to wait longer, even though many people might not make up their minds until closer to november. in terms of robert f. kennedy

jr., he did respond in a lengthy post on social media saying he applauds the family's decision to be politically active. that's a hallmark of all of the kennedys and their family for decades but that ultimately he's pursuing this campaign, he argues, for his own reasons, and he wants voters to look to him as an alternative in this election. chris. >> monica alba, thank you. now to that massive settlement from the justice department with the victims of former sports doctor, larry nasser. nbc's ken dilanian has new reporting on that deal. what can you tell us? >> this stems from a series of claims made by the victims of larry nassers about failures by the fbi, and those failures were documented in a 2021 department of justice inspector general report which described how complaints were made about larry nasser by u.s. gymnastics officials to fbi officials in indianapolis but those complaints were not acted on and were not passed on to fbi agents

in lansing, michigan, where the alleged crimes took place. for some 14 months. in that time, larry nasser continued to see patients and allegedly abused as many as 70 women. really catastrophic failures by the fbi, which said it subsequently tried to improve systems there. but settlement negotiations are ongoing, chris, and we are told the number could reach as high as $100 million, far less than a billion dollars claimed by these women but a big settlement for the federal government which is notoriously hard to sue. and it's the third in a series of big settlements made because of fbi mishandling and mistakes. a significant moment. these women were betrayed on so many levels by so many different people. it brings to a billion dollars the money paid in civil claims in connection with this case and larry nasser is serving functionally a life term in prison. >> ken dilanian, thank you. up next, the science behind

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any moment now, we expect jury selection to resume after the lunch break in former president trump's hush money trial. so far today, 18 new potential jurors have been questioned and it has given us a fascinating look inside the jury pool. it includes everyone from a yankees season ticket holder to an opera fan to tennis players. one potential juror said they follow the news as much as they can, including from the "wall street journal," cnn and msnbc while another revealed they subscribe to the "new york times" but, quote, mostly for the cross word puzzle. at potential juror answered very honestly about their podcast interests saying, quote, they're all reality tv related, nothing too highbrow. joining me now, trial consultant julie blackmon who has worked on

martha stewart, robert menendez. also former assistant d.a. manhattan district attorney, msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. it's great to pull back the curtain. let me start with basics. most of what we know comes from movies and television. this is obviously the real world. so are you in realtime touch minute to minute with the lawyers as they're having to make these decisions about who to keep or maybe who to challenge? >> if i'm actually involved in the jury selection, i sit at counsel table with the attorneys, and chat with them as the potential jurors respond to the questions they're asked. i try to offer advice, take notes. i have been involved in the design of the questions asked to potential jurors, and there's typically a profile of preferred responses that attorneys on both sides are listening for.

>> i just want to say, we just saw the former president with his lead lawyer and he seemed to be indicating, members of the press, at least he pointed in the directions of where the cameras would be. maybe he was askeding whether or not he could go over and talk to them. he did say, i'll speak to you later when we saw him put his hand up to his mouth. so there's that. tell me a little bit more, if you will, catherine, how much work. i mean, we're talking about a huge jury pool here. how much work have you done before, how much do you know before the first question on the extensive jury questionnaire gets asked. >> you mean about the jurors? you know nothing until you sit in the box and ask them questions. you're going to have someone on the trial team, there are four other people on the trial team, you're writing down each answer. and you're also looking, you know. for me, and everyone has a

different style. i think jury selection is about social skills. i don't view it as a science. and prosecutors are looking for a different juror than a defense. you roll your eyes at me. if you're the no paying attention, no. i want people who read the news. i'm a defense attorney, doesn't get breaking news alerts on their phone. goes to work, comes home, takes care of the family. it's a feeling you get when you're picking a jury as a lawyer. are they listening to me, did they roll their eyes at me. did they look like, you know, they're confused. so i always say it's a feeling i get. it's like, i just get a sense they're not paying attention or they don't like me. it's really sometimes as simple as that. >> julie, how much of what you do is a feeling and how much is a science? >> i mean, intuition, the kinds of things we just heard about are important, but often before trial actually begins in the courtroom, there's pre-trial research done, and so you have an opportunity to discover kind of the demographic

characteristics, let's say, of the people who are going to favor your side, and of course the thing that keeps jury selection fair is the fact that both sides are trying to find jurors that they think will resonate to their trial themes. but pre-trial research can give you a sense for the issues that are confusing to people, the kinds of things they're going to need more elaboration on in order to understand. at the end, the jurors are going to have to understand the case, understand the evidence, finding people who are receptive and pretrial research can help to identify the kinds of people who are most receptive, that goes beyond body language, although body language is a part of it, and looks attitudes, and experiences, and the questionnaire being used leads me to believe there's pretrial research being done that helped people involved to identify the kinds of questions they wanted to have answers to, because they knew what sorts of answers would be best for them.

be most likely to help them identify good jurors on both sides. >> julie, you know going in, take this case, you know probably 9 out of 10 manhattanites voted for a democrat. we know it's heavily democratic, so immediately beyond them saying i think i can be fair and impartial, what are the kinds of things that you, with your experience, would look for particularly with someone as famous as this because you have dealt with famous people before. can you put aside preconceived notions of someone you know this well? >> that's right. and that really is the fundamental question. can you do it, and what are the signs that someone can do that. vouching for open mindedness, maybe you say it, but is it true. the nature of their work experience, are they doing work that requires them to be kind of creative, divergent thinkers.

people have to make decisions for themselves. not people that are being instructed. people who have a broader view of their work space, there's a dispute ongoing, and maybe it's been resolved about whether or not jurors will identify their workplaces. the workplace is less important. the employer less important than the nature of the work that they do. i often say, if i could know one thing about jurors, i would want to know what they do for their jobs. people get to choose them, and in them to, a greater extent than other characteristics and in them, they can reveal their style of thought, the kinds of things that may enable them to handle complex material, to keep an open mind. this is not an election. being democrats or republicans is something certainly to consider. but these people are not voting this that sense. they're voting on the evidence that will be presented in this case, and the trial itself will take on an important, like an e

life, it will be front and center of mind for them. and so the people who are best able to do that, to sort of engage the moment, to set aside the time, to be smart about it, to think about the issues in play, will be good jurors. >> so both sides, julie have four of ten peremptory challenges left. i'm going to go back to tvs and movies, which is what most people's experience is. at some point, you have a tough call and the lawyer says, julie, and then you say, yes, no, does it actually work like that? >> it works sort of like that. i mean, it's a collaborative process always between a consultant and trial counsel. >> but you have maybe just seconds or am i exaggerating, to make this decision potentially? >> i would say minutes rather than seconds but sometimes only one minute, particularly depending on where you are in

the process, and there's a -- it's an interesting dilemma here. one of the strikes was used against someone who's now or strikes were being used at the time that they seated a juror who has now been excused. so whether or not that should entitle them to another strike i think is an open question. it appears at this point they have four strikes remaining and need to see four more jurors. >> i think they resident set when they go to the alternates. but donald trump seemed to have the idea that he was supposed to, and his team was supposed to have unlimited strikes, which they do not. this is not something that was particularly against him. it is the way it is. >> the law in new york. >> how do you make that decision as the number of strikes you have dwindles, because you never know what's coming up next. it may be someone who more obviously you want struck. >> exactly. and having only four left when

you have seven jurors you have to pick. that's not a lot. then it's about, is she worse than him. it's literally like that. you go through each person, well, it's a process of elimination. they say deselect. we only have one left. this one is better than that one. let's go from the one that's better than the two. >> i got to tell you, i think this is one of the absolutely more fascinating jobs that have to be out there, julie blackman, thank you, catherine christian, please stick with us, and thank you both for that fascinating conversation. coming up, the alibi for the man accused of murdering four university of idaho students. the proof his lawyers say they have, but without any witnesses to back him up, you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ing "chris jansing reports" onlyn o msnbc. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine

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. new evidence that lawyers for bryan kohberger say proves he wasn't there when four students were murdered at the university of idaho. here's nbc's laura jarrett. >> reporter: a fresh look at bryan kohberger's defense strategy. his lawyers revealing in a long awaited court filing they will offer expert testimony to cast doubt on prosecutor's evidence placing kohberger near the crime scene. pointing to his fondness for nighttime drives, his public defender now says that, quote, mr. kohberger was out driving in the early morning hours of november 13th, 2022, as he often

did to hike and run and/or see the moon and the stars. it's the very same defense that the judge appeared skeptical of last year when his public defender first loaded it. >> d it >> might be some witnesses, then cough them up. >> reporter: prosecutors allege kohberger stabbed, xana kernodle and ethan chapin in their off campus home at the university of idaho. authorities zeroing in with kohberger, using cell phone towers to track the location of his phone, and surveillance video allegedly showing a white hyundai matching his vehicle casing the victim's house on the night of the killings and the morning after. >> this is the state of idaho versus bryan kohberger. >> reporter: in the newly released court documents, kohberger's legal team now says his phone did not travel east on

the moscow pullman highway in the early morning hours of november 13th, and thus could not be the vehicle captured on video along the moscow pullman highway. the judge entered a plea of not guilty on kohberger's behalf, but the case is stalled in unresolved pretrial motions. caylee goncalves family say they are frustrated. >> the line of communication between the prosecution and the victims' family, at least for the goncalves family is very limited. i have never seen it before in my career. >> let me bring back nbc legal analyst, catherine christian, a former manhattan assistant d.a. that's technical evidence, right, they say that cell phone tower evidence shows he did not travel east, this could not be his vehicle. how strong might that evidence

be and what does the prosecution do with it? >> the prosecutors have their own evidence that says his phone pinged 12 times in that area before the murders and the day of the murders, it pinged twice. it's going to be a battle of experts. prosecutors also have a whole wealth of other information. what the defense is doing is what they should do. you grasp at straws. you hope it sticks. that's going to be the alibi. an alibi like that, in my experience, doesn't work. if he had someone in the car with him to say i was driving with him at that time. if he had, you know, a receipt from a store he went to at 7-eleven, that's more, but just to have one expert to say, from my experience in cell phone data he was going east and not south or south and not west, that's, you know, but they just need one juror, the defense, and if one juror believes, maybe the expert is right, then you have a hung jury. >> what about potentially a witness who says that was very common for him. he did go out a lot late at

night, and he would drive around, stop, look at the stars, he would go for a run. >> and can they say, i know for a fact he did it that night. that's where the prosecutor is going to have to do cross-examination. >> what about the criticism from the victims' families, this judge is keeping a tight ship, he doesn't want a lot out of stuff out there. it's understandable from the family's perspective. >> that's confusing to me. a gag order means you shouldn't be talking to the press or other people. to me, i think it's indefensible a prosecutor would not alert the family, we have motions, it's going to be adjourned, i'll keep you updated. you don't have to give the details, and you generally don't. there should be communication between the prosecutors and victims' families. >> catherine christian, always good to talk to you. thank you. coming up, the republicans' internal battles, showmanship versus statesmanship, and what it could mean for speaker

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the frustration among republicans is growing with control of the white house and both houses of congress on the line, the strategy of statesmanship versus showmanship, well, could that hurt gop chances in november? the examples are piling up over just 24 hours. first you had a failed

impeachment trial. margie taylor greene proposing bizarre amendments to foreign aid bills, one to put space laser at the southwest border. the others would require members of congress who vote yes on funding ukraine to serve in their military, and james comer continuing to charge but never prove any impeachable offense against president biden. >> answer this question. what do the bidens do? what business were they in? >> can i answer that? >> i would like to ask you a question. >> no, you stop. what did the bidens do? >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> what business were you in? >> mr. raskins could not answer the question. >> what do the bidens do to receive the money. >> let me start with this. my last name is raskin. we have sat next to each other for more than a year. you don't have to add the s, number two, i would like my time restored. number three, you have not identified a single crime. >> all of that making many

foreign leaders nervous about another trump presidency. he met with one of them last night, poland's president duda, a friend but also one who opposes several trump policies. carol leonnig is a reporter for "the washington post," and john kasich is the former republican governor of ohio and an msnbc political analyst. carol leonnig as someone who has followed donald trump for a long time, meeting with a former president is not out of the realm of possibility for a sitting head of state, but i wonder what you, knowing donald trump, make of the invitation for president duda to come to trump tower? >> chris, as you and i have talked about over the years, a lot of what donald trump does is performative. a lot of it is for the optics, for the television cameras. but that's no different than most politicians, right? it's just that he's better at it than a lot of people. in 2016, donald trump, the

candidate, met with a series of foreign leaders. his goal at that time was, again, he was running against hillary clinton, the democratic nominee. his goal was to show, i'm serious. you think i don't have foreign policy chops, well, these very important foreign policy leaders are meeting with me. and in essence, it's a version of the same thing now. duda coming to meet him at trump tower shows that trump is in the driver's seat, the powerful people come to him, just as when he was interviewing cabinet secretaries, you know, and each of them walked through a parade, into trump tower, a sign of how many people were at donald trump's beck and call to serve in his administration. here, though duda and he don't agree on everything, his goal is to show the shower comes to the thrown and that donald trump still controls that thrown. >> well, speaking of who's in the driver's seat, there are a lot of folks questioning who's in the driver's seat in the house, and governor kasich, there's an op-ed for fox news

entitled marjorie taylor greene is an idiot. she's trying to wreck the gop. it's written by liz peak who writes in part, it's high time somebody tell marjorie taylor greene to turn off the bombastic self-serving showmanship energy on democrats and stop trying to defeat her own party. >> call somebody else a name. >> who is the person she listens to anyway, how does she wield so much power? you have been in the house. >> she gets coverage, and look, what this gets down to is i think the republicans are in deep trouble when it comes to controlling the house. i mean, there's, hello, headlines, that's not really breaking news, but they are in deep trouble. they look pretty good in terms of winning the senate because of the pure numbers, but if they lose the house of representatives it's because of this kind of obstruction that goes on there all the time. you know, there is actually a

group of republicans who think the government should do nothing. we should shut it all down and that's a good day for america, and there are people out there listening who don't agree, finally he gets it. no, government doesn't work that way as a last resort, sometimes as a first resort. when they can't do anything down there, even though people are sour on politicians, when they see that the republicans are incapable of producing anything, and there's nothing but chaos, they're not going to vote for them. regardless of what people say how bad government is, that's not where the vast majority of americans are. on calling people names and all that, people say to me, what can we do to change the polarization and everything else. the first thing is stop calling names. secondly, you know, maybe when someone asks you something, you ought to say, i don't have an answer, or hey, i never thought about it that way. these are radical ideas.

i never considered your opinion before. i may not agree with you, but i still kind of like you. if we can start doing that as a country, we can begin to move and be able to put way out there extremists on all sides. >> whenever i think john kasich, i think radical, so thank you for affirming what we all know with those ideas, but carol, your colleague, phillip bump writes about margie taylor greene's fringe theories. she's trying to get rid of another speaker. that's serious. we know about the fringe, but there are a lot of people on the republican side who follow whatever donald trump says, right? if he says, this is where your policy should be, that's where they want the policy to be because they're afraid, and some of them have said, you know, they don't want to get his ire. but last week, for example, he expressed support for johnson's leadership, and then when he was

asked about it, i think it was last night or tuesday, he said, we'll see when he was asked. so if you're a member of the house, if you're a member of the republican party, can you even follow donald trump? does he have a policy that he sticks with? >> well, you know, i love that you focused on the we'll see because donald trump had a very successful run of keeping people guessing. and on their toes by saying we'll see what happens with that chief of staff or we'll see what happens with that secretary of homeland security who's not really doing everything i want her to do at the border. and also, when his chief of staff, forgive me, when his vice president wasn't agreeing there was election fraud, well, we'll see what happens with vice president pence. so that is a way for donald trump to remind in this case speaker johnson, you are dancing

to my tune. i hope you keep dancing to it the way i want you to. i mean, people have been confiding to johnson that he needs to keep trump in the loop on each of his policies going forward, on the ukraine funding bill, keep trump close so he feels like he's party to what your decisions are or else you'll lose the speakership. that's really where that party is at this moment. >> keep your friends close and your enemies closer is the old saying. governor, what do you think? do you think speaker johnson can survive? >> yeah, he might. here's the thing. we know this, chris. he will survive for sure if the democrats decide to support him. we got into this position because, you know, mccarthy, they didn't come to mccarthy's rescue, then of course mccarthy got elected after how many ballots. it's a mess down there. but what's going to happen, remember i said it here, it keeps going this way, democrats are going to win the house.

they will win the house and it won't be by a narrow margin, it will be larger than what people expect. i think republicans as i said earlier, will win the senate, and we'll see who gets elected president. long-term survival, i think the republicans are in deep trouble. very deep trouble in the house in terms of keeping their majority. and for speaker johnson, you're going to have a vote on ukraine. go with it, man. if you win, great. if you don't win, great. life's short, do the right thing. >> former governor john kasich, and carol leonnig, two of my favorite guests. thank you so much, i appreciate you coming on the show. we want to go back to jury selection because it's back underway in donald trump's hush money case. nbc's vaughn hillyard is outside the courthouse for us, and vaughn, there is some question about what exactly was going on when they came back into the room. so tell us what's happening. >> reporter: right. we've got about two hours left

of court today here on this thursday, chris, and i can tell you right now, there's a crop of 18 potential jurors, if i may, to simplify this here. essentially they are on the second round of being potentially cut. the first round was making it through the 42 question questionnaire. now this is the voir dire process. this is where right now the district attorney's prosecutor has 30 minutes to ask all 18 of these individuals together. they can go one by one, pinpoint one, go to another. some very specific questions. in fact, right now, the prosecutor from the d.a.'s office just asked one about instagram, and the fact that she had had thoughts about the actual defendant, and she said that not strong opinions about the defendant, which is of course a very specific note, but then after that is when the trump legal team will have the opportunity to then go and ask

these 18 jurors the questions. at that point, that is when each side will huddle the d.a.'s prosecutors will huddle amongst themselves and trump's legal team will huddle amongst themselves and that's when we'll get to the challenge part of this. they can challenge for cause, and they can also use their remaining peremptory challenges. by this afternoon, we could very well have a few more jurors formally sworn in and added to what is currently five jurors, chris. >> catherine christian, i'm going to go to you with the latest on what's going on inside the courtroom. one of the things we know is the question of social media, right, the question of does that give us any insights into their thoughts. and there was a juror who said, potential juror who said he followed donald trump on instagram, and wanted to know, do you have opinions on how he's been treated or do you have no strong opinions. and he says, do you currently

still follow him. i followed him years ago. just generally, because it was a news item when he put a tweet out so i was aware of that. have you seen him post anything about this case. i haven't paid much attention to it. >> well, you have people who are with both sides. someone sitting there with either an i pad or their laptop and they're doing like this as the juror is speaking, just to check, and if you're a follower of someone, to say you don't pay attention, why are you following them. it could be possible you rarely follow people, and never that much during the week check. that's a question that i would want to know as a prosecutor. you're following him because you're a fan or you're following him just because you're not a fan, you just want to see what he's up to. >> we're getting this in realtime. this gets interesting as far as i'm concerned. he said he thought about it during lunch. he said, i'm worried that i know too much. and academically, i know i have

to -- i'm sorry? a woman is saying i'm worried i know too much and academically, i have to put it to the side. i'm worried it's going to seep in in some ways, and then the steinglass says there are no wrong answers, can you put that aside. and the female juror says yes. and steinglass says, and i should tell people that, you know, that's obviously one of the lawyers, the assistant district attorney. >> one of the lead prosecutors. >> you can't speculate, and will you assure us you won't let your curiosity distract you. i think that's a hard question. >> it's a hard question, but the law in new york, a prospective juror can't be i don't know, maybe i can. it has to be yes, i can be fair and impartial. so what i can see josh steinglass, who's the lead prosecutor, is trying to get her to commit. if she can't, that's really a challenge for cause because she

can't say that she can be fair and impartial. >> if you hesitate, that maybe is a sign. >> that's it. >> catherine christian, thank you for that. and coming up, a potentially dangerous and widespread 911 outage in the u.s., what we know about the cause and effects. know about the cause anefd fects. ♪ t i manage it well ♪ ♪ jardiance! ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance ♪ ♪ at each day's start! ♪ ♪ as time went on it was easy to see ♪ ♪ i'm lowering my a1c! ♪ jardiance works twenty-four seven in your body to flush out some sugar. and for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease, jardiance can lower the risk of cardiovascular death, too. serious side effects may include ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function, and genital yeast or urinary tract infections. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection ketoacidosis, or an allergic reaction.

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to widespread outages last night. nbc's brian cheung is following this story for us. the fcc is investigating but it comes on the heels of the at&t outage that happened back in i think it was february. >> just a few months ago. >> do we know what happened here? >> we just found out what happened. there was a statement that came out from lumen technologies, they are a telecom provider across the country, and they said that it appeared to be due to a freak accident. essentially there was a third party that was trying to install a light pole. it severed some cable that led to the outages in nebraska, south dakota, and. there were issues in texas, they don't have 911 plugs in that state. they said they apologized for it, and in two and a half hours they were able to get things back online. still a scary situation. >> a lot can happen in two and a half hours. >> if you call 911 and there's nobody answering, then what happens? >> well, and not being able to make the connection is just a

scary situation, but this is a sobering reminder of the alternatives. if you are unable to reach 911, in many cases there were police departments and fire departments that were saying you can text 911 in some cases. they were also saying you can try the local emergency line. instead of 911, they have the standard ten-digit number that you can call for your local fire department or local police department. they were pointing people that way. but one other thing that's really important about all of this. some people were trying to call 911 to test if their phones were able to connect. do not do that. this was the same thing that we saw with the at&t outage two months ago as well. >> that's a scary thing. i mean, i can't imagine being in the middle of a crisis, a health crisis and not being able to reach it. that's a really good reminder, brian cheung, thank you for that. prince william returned to public duty today. he was working in the kitchen with volunteers at a food charity you see there.

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it's good to be with you. i'm ana cabrera in for katy tur this afternoon. jury selection in donald trump's criminal trial in new york city has hit a hurdle. two jurors who were already sworn in are now out. more than half of today's initial pool of prospective jurors are also gone