when you switch to comcast business mobile. don't wait! call, click or visit an xfinity store today. it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. wooooo! it is good to be back with you for this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, the deadline is up. columbia university protesters

who refused to clear an encampment are now facing suspension. we are live with the campus crackdown. return to gaza, world central kitchen resuming operations nearly one months after a deadly strike killed seven aid workers. their new mission after tragedy. plus, seeking justice. the civil lawsuit just filed on behalf of a black missouri teen shot in the head for ringing the wrong doorbell. he was just indicted as a fake elector for donald trump, why is an arizona lawmaker being tapped for a top job at the rnc. our reporters are following the latest developments. we want to get right to antonia hylton at columbia university. students were told they would be suspended if they did not leave by this minute. it seems there's an awful lot of tents there. what's happening? >> reporter: you're exactly

right, chris. the tents are all still here. the students are marching around the entire central section of campus here chanting, we will divest. they're chanting free palestine. they are not letting up. this is what i heard from students in the early hours of this morning after the initial message from president shafik came out. immediately, students were essentially scoffing at this, reaching out to me, saying we had no plans to leave. they were going to divide themselves into two groups, chris. one group willing to risk arrest, suspension or worse, and another group that is going to stay on the sidelines, surrounding their classmates who are staying in the encampment, ready to watch to see what happens as it strikes 2:00. you know, as i like around me, i see students protesting of all years, including graduate level students. we have faculty members who in

some cases, you can spot in bright yellow vests who tell me they are here to protect their students. they do not want what happened the other day to happen again here, where they see a hundred of the students they serve taken out by the nypd. they are going to be standing here and watching. what we haven't seen yet is any kind of security response, from the nypd or the private security force at columbia. the deadline has gone, but not much has happened yet. these students are emboldened, chris. >> antonia hylton, keep us posted, thank you. inside gaza, world central kitchen is resuming operations less than a month after a deadly strike on its aide workers. nbc international correspondent matt bradley is reporting out of the london bureau for us. what are you hearing from the organization about their decision. >> reporter: it seems the organization decided the need was too great to stay away. in a statement, ultimately we decided we must keep feeding, because, they said, the

humanitarian situation in gaza remains dire. an aid organization had announced it has up to 276 trucks with 8 million meals, all of them ready to go into the gaza strip through the strip's crossing with egypt at rafah. now of course this was a delicate decision. seven workers were killed in an israeli air strike on a warehouse just a couple of weeks ago. that sparked an international outcry, and it led to a very real diplomatic rupture between washington and jerusalem, and even the idf in a rare move admitted to the error, calling it a grave mistake. they also dismissed two senior officers over those deaths. the charity, they remain unsatisfied with the response to these deaths, even as they're plowing ahead with more aid distribution in the gaza strip. they're still demanding an impartial and international investigation into the killings of their seven workers, chris. >> matt bradley, thank you. the family of ralph yarl,

the missouri 16-year-old who was shot in the head after ringing the wrong doorbell, now suing the man who pulled the trigger as well as the homeowner's association. what more do we know about this civil lawsuit? >> the lawsuit was filed this morning out of clark county, outside of kansas city, missouri, and what the family is alleging is that the homeowners association should have known about andrew lester, who shot ralph yarl, and andrew shot ralph without giving him any type of warning, he never should have been afraid for his life. >> deon hampton, keep us posted. now to arizona, a state senator who was indicted in the 2020 fake elector plot has been tapped for a job at the rnc. dasha burns is following that

story. what can you tell us about this official, jake hoffman? >> jake hoffman and several others who are under indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, and also involved at high levels at the rnc or at the high levels of the republican party. senator jeff hoffman was indicted last week as a fake elector, and he has now just been appointed as a national committee man for the rnc. also elected as a national committee woman for the rnc is representative liz harris, chris, who was actually expelled from the legislature after she invited an election denier to hearings. she claimed that mexican cartel's bribed the governor and speaker. this was all televised with some really outlandish claims about the 2020 election. and lastly, christina bobb, who

is currently senior counsel to the rnc's election integrity team, she was also indicted last week, and we talked about this a little bit earlier, chris, but to continue to have people who were at the center of election denialism and even efforts to overturn the 2020 election, to continue to have them as part of this system at the top levels of the rnc is a concern, especially for republicans, because they are worried about voters distrusting the system and then simply sitting it out. at the same time as you have all of this, you've got folks in the grass roots, county chairs and precinct chairs in swing states that are trying to engage voters, trying to get them to vote early, trying to get them to vote by mail, whatever makes it easier for them to cast a ballot, while you've got so many other folks at the center of sowing distrust, chris. >> dasha burns, thank you. and coming up, could israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu face an arrest warrant for war crimes?

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right now, secretary of state antony blinken is in saudi arabia meeting with officials. pressure for a cease fire has been building ahead of a threatened israeli assault on rafah, where more than a million palestinian civilians have been

sheltering, and israeli officials tell nbc news there's greater concern that the international criminal court could issue arrest warrants against prime minister netanyahu and other top israeli officials for war crimes, and they could come as soon as this week. i want to bring in retired admiral james stavridis, former supreme allied commander after nato, and msnbc chief international analyst. always good to see you. i want to start with the potential arrest warranted for netanyahu, other senior israeli officials. what would that even mean in a practical sense? >> personally, i would not want to be indicted, even if my nation, and by the way, the united states, like israel is not a full participant in the international criminal court. the problem is, whenever you travel anywhere, you're liable for an arrest, that can be issued in two nations that are part of the icc, icj, et cetera,

so very uncomfortable position for the prime minister to potentially find himself in. having said all of that, i think that he will have a reasonable line of defense in terms of self-defense. i don't see him ending up in a courtroom, but certainly an uncomfortable position for any head of state. >> the white house believes there's a window to secure a cease fire that could head off israel's assault on rafah. talk about what you've seen in terms of the timing of these negotiations, obviously the pressure, and is this really thousand in hamas's court? >> as we say in the middle east, let's hope this happens deeply. by the way, kudos to secretary of state, tony blinken, a good friend, i mean, watching the travels of tony over the last few months, you know, a couple of days ago he's in beijing going toe to toe with president xi, and now trying to get this deal of the land.

i give him a lot of credit for getting out, getting into it and doing all that he can and all the administration can. i think there's a window here, and he is absolutely right to go to the bankrollers, the money that is providing hamas, and the money that could potentially rebuild gaza. that's where the pressure point is that could be applied. i think there's a 50/50 chance we could get to a temporary cease fire in the next few weeks. >> so much is at stake, and while tony blinken and his team are working tirelessly as you point out on this, we continue to hear criticisms from hostage families that netanyahu is prioritizing his own political survival over the lives of those hostages. i want to play for you, amiral of what one of the nieces of one of the hostages said yesterday. >> one of the things that worries my family and worries me

is it's arguably not in prime minister netanyahu's political interest to close a deal. we're at 205 days, there have been deals on the table. they prove elusive and worry that's because of prime minister netanyahu, so i think that now is the moment. i think i have faith that we can do a deal now. i also think if that isn't possible, the biden administration should think about what they can do directly to bring our american citizens home. >> do you agree with that? and what options could there be that would essentially go around israel. >> first and foremost, i agree with the heartbreak of being a family member who is subject to having a hostage held by a brutal terrorist organization like hamas, which has shown its proclivity to attack civilians, to kill, maim and rape civilians again and again and again. in terms of the deal on the

table, i think we're at a point where the u.s. is going to put pressure on israel to close a deal, and secretary blinken is ripe to get the arabs on the hamas side. i think there are a few cards left to play in terms of pressuring israel to take a hostage deal if hamas simply refuses what i consider a very reasonable deal that's on offer at the moment. the biden administration, i think, will just continue its current play, which is a smart one. put pressure, both on the hamas side through the gulf arabs. we do the pressure work on israel. let's hope we can get a deal. >> admiral, please stick around, we want to go back now to that breaking news at columbia university where protesters have defied the 2:00 p.m. deadline to clear their encampment or face suspension. what we're seeing instead is people marching. moments ago, we saw faculty

members lined up, their arms linked and one of them told our correspondent on the ground they want to defend their students. this is a very active scene right now. let's go to nbc's george solis at columbia. tell us what you're seeing and hearing right now? >> reporter: hey, chris, tensions obviously reaching a fever pitch. that 2:00 deadline has come and gone. i can tell you what's happening outside of the gates here. you have pro palestinian protesters that have gathered here, chanting the same rhetoric we have heard. take a look behind me. the nypd also creating fencing around the protesters here at the gates. no word yet if anyone has been arrested at this time. but just giving you a sense of how serious columbia is taking this right now. they know what's at stake. they issued a bulletin not long ago, saying the rumor of a state of emergency is a fabrication, and totally false. there is no state of emergency. as you pointed out, former colleagues inside of columbia right now, around the encampment, you saw the professors linked arm in arm.

no one has voluntarily left the encampment. all of this coming at the last day of classes. commencement right around the corner. many wondering will commencement go on. in a letter issued by president ma nuch -- i want to tell you from being on campus, they have set up what could be a commencement on campus. there are chairs set up, and chairs that have been laid out in the area. whether or not it happens at columbia or another undisclosed location remains to be seen. the clock now ticking. one thing that is drawing a lot of attention is the nypd. we are told they are not going to go on campus. this will not play out as it has been playing out in other parts of the country with the police there on campus. obviously tensions very very high outside and inside of columbia, chris. >> george solis, thank you. i want to go back to admiral stavridis, and you have dealt with student protesters before as the dean of the fletcher

school. look, this is a tough situation. a hundred students were arrested and it really sparked a nationwide set of protests that we're seeing, as i said, all across the country. on the other hand, they put a 2:00 deadline, if this continues. do they have to do something. how complex is the situation right now, and what needs to get done? >> well, i'll start with this. i spent a lifetime in uniform defending the rights of those students to exercise free speech and to protest. having said that, chris, i did not defend nor do they have the right to use the mantle of free speech to say things like kill all the jews, destroy the state of israel. they do not have the mantle of free speech to threaten jewish students, to push them to assault them, these are all

documented instances, and in my view, they should not use free speech to protect a terrorist organization. or to support a terrorist organizations that rapes and mutilates and maims the way that hamas does. my view, if i were dean of a law school, which i was for five years, and by the way, my school, tufts university is taking the same stance as columbia, which is, okay, you've come out. you've protested, you're now in violation of university restrictions because of the hate speech, because you're taking up space where we want to have or we must have our graduation in a couple of weeks. now it's time for you to, no pun intended, fold your tents and go. i think the next step in students continuing to defy in this manner, they should be suspended and/or expelled from the university. and i'll close with this, the graduations that these protesters would interfere with

and deny for the class of 2024, i guarantee you the vast majority of soon to be graduates of the 4,000 universities and colleges in the united states, those students want to graduate. don't forget, they were the class of 2020, ding ding ding, the pandemic class, none of them had a high school graduation. they want this college graduation. they deserve it. legal protests, that's fine. illegal protests, not fine. >> but if there is a move to spend them, a move to get them out of there, is there a way to do that without escalating this situation? how complicated is that? >> challenging, but let's, again, keep it in perspective here, this is not thousands and thousands of students. this is a distinct minority who have chosen to be in violation of university policy. and let's also remember this,

every one of those protesters who are now in violation of university policy, for every one of them who were accepted at columbia, there were 20, 25 high school students who were rejected by columbia. so i think columbia will do just fine and find other great students to come. these who are in violation should be dealt with very sternly to include suspension and expulsion. final thought, yes, it could get messy, and yes, there will be some bad video. the choice is, you used the phrase, columbia might hold its graduation at an undisclosed location. really? that's not a choice protesters in violation of university policy, mongering and hate speech should be allowed to create. >> admiral james stavridis, thank you. >> you bet. coming up, did one of the big names on donald trump's vp short list just blow her chances

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as bizarre as it may sound even by donald trump's standards, here's a key question in the race to be his running mate, is shooting your puppy in the face disqualifying? reports vary about why

contender, kristi noem put the story in her new book, one theory is to head off a disclosure by someone else. another, to make her out as battle ready. she frames it as an example of leaders having to make tough choices. the entire process is amping up speculation about the race to be trump's number two, while also amping up the jokes. >> age is the only thing we have in common. my vice president actually endorses me. >> well, trump has suggested he'll wait until close to the convention to make his selection. a key moment maybe next month, when many of the top contenders, are expected to join trump at a fundraiser in florida. here to break it down, chuck todd and tim miller, also an msnbc political analyst. oh, chuck, kristi noem is defending herself, and this is what she wrote on x, the fact is south dakota law states that dogs who attack and kill

livestock can be put down. given that cricket, cricket is her dog, had shown aggressive behavior to people by biting them. i decided what i did. i have never passed on my responsibilities to anyone else to handle. what does this mean for her within the republican party and any chances she has to be vp? >> well, look i thought she was sort of eliminated after the weird personal endorsement of the dental facility in the state of texas, when she talked about fixing her smile, and there was that awkward, public service announcement, going, boy, does it end, you keep going, oh, my gosh, she's still talking, and she's still talking. i can't imagine, now, i'm always a little afraid to assume anything with the trump world because you just never know what he's thinking. just because what would seem like that bad idea, nominating somebody who shots dogs, for all

we know, just one person has to think, you know, why not or anything like that. look, one thing about trump, he's not going to pick somebody that he thinks is going to get more attention than he is, let alone bad attention. i think that the speculation about doug burgam, he's looking for a quiet rich person. looking for somebody to fund his campaign, and a vice president running mate can write a lot more money than a governor of north dakota can. >> here's the problem, though, like noam in south dakota, these are not battle ground states, might he want someone to come from a place where they could help him, tim scott, marco rubio. >> i certainly think that is what some in trump world have thought, that, for instance, tim

scott can help with suburban folks, at least the thinking goes. but even trump, and we have heard this and he thinks that scott's position on abortion, and frankly his inability to handle it. one could argue tim scott's presidential campaign never really got off the ground but the week he tried to get it off the ground, he couldn't. it took him six or seven different tries to answer where was he on a federal abortion ban. he just had a mess and he did not show an ability to do it. i think in conventional terms, if you're trump and you think you have somebody that can carry you, to me it's a two-state election if you're trump. if you think there's one person that can help you carry wisconsin and/or michigan, you grab that person, and perhaps he thinks burgum is kind of mid western. i think we overrate the running

mate talk. look at our past, how many successful nominees overcame bad running mates and how many losing nominees had terrific running mates. so i kind of think we overrate this a bit. >> all right. but we're going to still talk about it, so, tim, i want to go back to kristi noem for a second. when i was at the white house correspondents dinner this weekend, everybody was talking about this. and the lincoln project, no surprise, seized on it with a new ad. take a listen. >> dog owners know, our furry friends can be a lot to keep up with, but when those tough moments come, you have options. shooting your dog in the face should not be one of them. >> there are a lot of dog lovers out there. donald trump may not be one of them, tim, but he hasn't said anything that i know of about noem yet. we want to wait to see how it

shakes out. do you think he'll say anything at all? because this is something, for better, for worse, people are talking about it everywhere. for obvious reasons. >> yeah, well, i appreciate you bringing me in. i'm not sure you need someone with expertise to say that shooting a dog is not really a winner in politics. i'm happy to bring that expertise to the program. what will trump do? trump right now i think is enjoying the veep stakes, in a lot of ways it's similar to when he ran the miss universe pageant. he wants people to suck up to him. he wants to tease people. similar to the "the apprentice," who might be in the lead, who might be losing, he gets a kick out of this stuff. that's the type of person he is. i doubt he'll trash noem over this. he wants these people to be vying for his love and attention. i'm with chuck, though, i never thought -- she never seemed to

me to be the person he would pick. he wants someone who looks the part, who's unflinchingly loyal. the top two considerations, maybe the money thing could be a bonus, as chuck brought out. she doesn't really fit those things. the scandals related to her relationship with lewandowski and campaign finance report, or campaign finance, excuse me, related to that. i think also it's probably not going to be kristi noem, but again, who knows. maybe, he's been leading in courts, so he might just need to get something off his chest. >> or a diversion. guys, i've got to say good-bye, because we have to go to columbia live for this breaking news. a student press conference. they are talking about what they're doing. this 2:00 p.m. deadline to disburse, which they clearly have not heard. let's listen in. >> suspensions and evictions, protesters have been entirely

peaceful, and the university has previously agreed that it has no grounds to call in the nypd. this is not stopping columbia from illegally declaring a state of emergency which requires columbia to falsely identify nonviolent protesters as a clear and present danger. columbia's threats distributed through flyers are reminiscent of the flyers the israeli army launches from the sky to gazans. today's threats come after days of fruitless negotiations in which the university refused to seriously consider our demands for divestment, financial transparency, and amnesty for students and faculty disciplined in the movement for palestinian liberation. columbia pulled out of negotiations over the weekend by threatening students with a mass campus lockdown and the eviction of every undergraduate from their dorms. it's our position that good faith negotiations are not possible so long as the

university attempts to win arguments by weaponizing food insecurity, homelessness and military attacks as leverage. they have informed the university that they are prepared to escalation their direction actions if the university does not adopt basic standards of conduct for negotiations. the university has repeatedly lied to the public about their so-called concessions in negotiations while refusing our requests for more transparency. for example, they proposed to share information about their direct holdings, neglecting to mention that these account fo 6.12% of columbia's $784 million publicly traded investments. they would not consider bare minimum divestment to divest from the weapons manufacturers that directly profit off of thousands of bombs that have decimated gaza, killing at least 44,000 palestinians so far. instead, in engaging with

negotiators in good faith, the university has done nothing but intimidate protesters in an attempt to disburse the encampment and proceed with the semester as usual, ignoring the ongoing genocide and the institution's complicity in it. we stress that during genocide, business cannot continue as usual. today is day 205 of genocide in gaza. we must take action to end the true state of emergency, columbia's complicity in genocide. with that, i'm going to turn it over to the amazing people on our negotiation team. >> my name is sueda last name polat. i'm a student organizer and one of the negotiators for quad.

earlier today president shafik sent out an e-mail announcing the end of negotiations. and declared explicitly that the university will not divest from israel. in that same e-mail, president shafik claimed that we had had construct i have dialogue regarding the student encampment and made insincere statements regarding the university's actions. the university's negotiations evidenced an elementary understanding of the word by cot and divest, which have been at the heart of the student movement, and at the heart of our encampment. while the administration offered us a time line for review of the divestment proposals, they refused to give us any commitment that the ultimate decision would be binding. they offered us limited financial disclosure by giving

only their direct holdings, yet not the indirect holdings which account for the vast majority of this university's endowment. they also threw bribes at students. shafik talks about early development childhood education programs for palestinians in the west bank and gaza. she talks about a resilience fund for gazans. this amounts to nothing more than bribery of the student movement. the administration also offered a review of the boycott. instead of closing down the tel aviv duel degree program, instead of shutting down the tel aviv global center which has not yet broken ground, they said they would review access to these institutions, to these programs overlooking conveniently the fact that these programs can never be in line with the university's own stated

policies of nondiscrimination and equal opportunity. this is a smoke screen. bureaucracy is a prison and the students refuse to trade in the blood of palestinians. >> you hear the high emotions of a couple of students there at the protest at columbia university. charging the school with using scare tactics. they said they only got a couple of hours notice of the 2:00 p.m. deadline this they were supposed to take their encampment down, and they made some very highly charged accusations against the administration, things like weaponizing food insecurity, lying to them about negotiations. let's bring back nbc news correspondent george solis, who is reporting from columbia university. they referred specifically to a letter that was sent by the

university president. tell us the atmosphere as you are able to sense it, and the heart of what the school is saying in response directly to this. exactly what they have been saying about what's happening there. >> reporter: in essence what you're hearing from the student organizers, the university, according to the students has not negotiated in good faith. it is spilled out into what we can describe as a fever pitch, a 2:00 p.m. deadline for the voluntary disbursement. behind you see the pro palestinian protesters outside of columbia's gates in solidarity with the students in the encampment. the nypd here may not be able to go on campus, but they're certainly letting their presence be known outside of columbia, sending barricades up, barricades, i should add, were removed over the weekend, setting a different tone as to what might play out here in the coming days. obviously that has not happened. here they mentioned the letter issued by president minouche

shafik, she said since wednesday, a small group of active leaders have been in constructive dialogue with student organizers that will find a path that will result in dismantling the encampment in adherence with university policies. she goes on to say the encampment itself has created an unwelcoming environment for jewish students and faculty. external actors have contributed to creating a hostile environment here, especially around the gates that's unsafe for everyone, going on to say she wants to reassure the community that they are trying to create plans to hold commencement, whether or not that's at columbia or somewhere else remains to be seen, and of course concluding by saying that they gave the demonstrators here until 2:00 p.m. to voluntarily disburse. what happens now in lieu of these statements and comments made by the organizers obviously remains to be seen. earlier this afternoon, the university issuing another quick statement issuing that the rumor of a state of emergency here on campus was also completely false. we are obviously now in the

waiting game, and obviously could be a very hostile situation that's unfolding and developing here as the clock and the seconds tick by, chris. >> george, i just want to read something that within "the new york times," and they say that the investments listed by columbia university apartheid divests, the group that wants them to stop as they see it supporting israel and supporting what they see as genocidal actions. they say it amounts to less than 1/10 of 1% of columbia's endowment. the students are creating greater transparency from the university on the private holdings. to get a better sense of the overall investment in israel. this is very largely at the heart of this. what is is it that students want? what more information do we feel

they want that the university is not providing? >> reporter: the main message that we have heard repeatedly is they do want the university to diverse from any business holdings that contribute to israel. and the university did respond. president inouche shafik did respond in the letter. the university offers to develop an expedited time line for review of new proposals from the students and the student body to consider divestment matters. the university offered to publish a process for students to access a list of direct investment holdings and increase the frequencies of updates to the list. so that is obviously very unprecedented. you don't hear about that often. it sounds like they are going to provide some information to the students about some of their business dealings. what that looks like and how that all unfolds remains to be seen, chris. >> george solis, we will come back to you if there are any updates. we appreciate it. and we'll be right back. we appreciate it and we'll be right back. m. time for the ultimate humidity test. weightlessly smooth hair

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first female vp. >> you were asking me earlier about what it means to be, like, the first woman, and you know, it's funny. because people still got to get used to this, right. i mean, my staff, for example, sometimes they'll show me little things that amuse me. people talk about the way i laugh. >> i love your laugh. >> it's important for us to remind each other and our younger ones don't be confined to other people's perception about what this looks like. >> joining me now, the director of the public policy program and former executive director of the state democratic party, basil smikle. you know, from the very beginning, from the time that, and i was on the air when she came out and she was officially named his vice presidential nominee. there's on one hand excitement,

on the other hand, concern about racism, about sexism, and the confluence of the two. with drew barrymore, she tried to turn that into a teaching moment, right, but are there some more troubling issues at play, do you think? and does her being out so much at least tell you how joe biden is answering them? >> it's interesting, i have talked and written about how she is the administration's secret weapon. because she's an african-american woman who's also the child of indian american immigrants, there's an intersectionality that she brings to these debates that you're not going to get anywhere else. the fact that she's going to all these different states and cities, talking about reproductive rights, all the things she can talk about, she's uniquely qualified to do that. now, having said that, i remember my days working for hillary clinton when she was criticized for everything from her laugh to the fact that people, you know, said she wore

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those -- the two state legislators were expelled to talk about the issues they brought to the table. she's going to go into communities, invite people down to d.c. to have smaller conversations about these are our marching orders going forward, these are the ways we need to start talking about the issues, now go out and do this work. the sort of intimacy that she can have with constituents that the president can't because he's president of the united states is going to be valuable in the long run. >> we have been obviously covering not just today but for a long time now, the unrest on some college campuses. morehouse, a lot of students and faculty there are not happy that joe biden is going to be giving the commentment address. the school has said we're not backing down. what are your conversations? i know you have a lot of folks you know at morehouse, what are you hearing there? >> i was there talking to

students about this. if you understand the atlanta university center, morehouse, those are social justice institutions. martin luther king walked the campus at morehouse. what the students are saying, with everything going on in the world because of social media and also because we understand more about the plight of black and brown people across the globe, don't want you to come down here and not address those issues. we want you to lean into them in ways that are relevant to us, to those students, and look, they understand the mission. it's important for them to get an agenda passed and promoted for anyone that's running as president of the united states. don't come down here and use the university as a platform without addressing the core issues. if he can do that, he'll be welcome, but until then, they want to make sure that he has that in mind should he decide to go. >> basil smikle, thank you, it's always good to see you my friend. coming up, the new study that may have some would be homeowners putting their dreams

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big city home buyers beware. a brand new analysis from bank rate shows that nationwide, it is cheaper to rent than to buy a home in the 50 largest u.s. metro areas. cnbc's diana olick has more for us. walk us through what all of this means. >> the rent versus math used to play out differently from city to city. renting a home is cheaper that buying. in a new report to bank rate, which compared mortgage payments to current rates. the monthly mortgage payment for a median sized home, around $412 million, is $2,300, including property tax and insurance, compared to rent of

1979, which includes renters insurance, that's a 37% gap between the two. you see why people are renting now, chris. >> diana, really quickly, are there bargains anywhere. >> reporter: no. that's the short answer. in 21 markets, the gap is bigger, 50% or more, and that's like san francisco, seattle, salt lake city, denver and dallas. cities with the smallest gaps, though it's still more expensive to own, detroit, pittsburgh, philadelphia, st. louis, cleveland and tampa. these numbers are as of february. i hate to say it but mortgage rates have gone up since then. the gaps may be even bigger. again, renting is going to be cheaper in most places. >> thank you very much, diana olick, appreciate it. that is going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. up next, my colleague katy tur will go one on one with house

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