daniels hundred $30,000, telling him "just do it." nike has changed their slogan to "yay! sneakers!" michael cohen was questioned about his use of tiktok and other people are using the platform. >> michael cohen, donald trump's former attorney just testified under oath. >> today was the straight up funniest day in court. >> this is where todd blanche is getting to michael cohen. >> michael cohen's testimony this week monday and tuesday has been nothing short of a complete disaster for for donald trump. >> we are living through this together and the good news is that people are taking in the facts and discussing it. we will see what the jury decides, when they decide it. keep it locked, right here, on msnbc. on this new hour, breaking

news overseas, where the search is on for iran's president after his helicopter crashed. staged, corrupt, and rigged, republicans are already attacking the presidential debate, a debate that has yet to happen. what are they so afraid of? the gop's chances of winning control of the senate are higher than ever. what will democrats do about it? let's do it. we start this hour with breaking news. the search and rescue efforts are underway for the iranian president after his helicopter suffered what officials have called a hard landing in the northeast portion of the country. drones, dogs, and helicopters are part of the search effort as fog and treacherous weather continue to hamper them. the president was on board with high ranking members of his cabinet and other officials. josh letterman is tracking the developments. josh, what can you tell us about the current state of the search and whether or not there

other countries involved in trying to find where the iranian president and that helicopter might be? >> reporter: well, for about the first 12 hours or so, this search and rescue operation, rescuers could not pinpoint exactly where that helicopter went down. now, we've learned that they have been able to figure out where the helicopter is, based largely on a cell phone signal that finally came from the helicopter. now, the task is for the military and search and rescue operatives to try to actually hone in on that location, which is what they are trying to do now, but it's paid for difficult by the fact that the weather remains intensely difficult, there's a lot of fog in the area which is frankly what led to the conditions under which this helicopter went down. it's now the middle of the night, and that is hampering efforts, as well. we are seeing a growing international effort by iran's allies and neighbors to try to help with this operation, including the iraqis, and russia, who said that they sent

two aircraft and helicopters and about 50 search and rescue officials to try to help the iranians locate and hopefully recover the iranian president, the foreign minister, and others. we are hearing from the u.s. were chuck schumer, senate democratic leader, it is based on u.s. intelligence, there is no evidence of foul play and all indications are that this was a weather-related incident. >> do we know what the president of iran was doing on that helicopter at the time the helicopter disappeared? >> reporter: he traveled to this region in the northwestern corner of iran to inaugurate a new dam that had been opened in partnership with iran's neighbor, azerbaijan. that was about 375 miles or so from the capital of tehran and he was on his way back to the capital when his helicopter went down and of course, that search and recovery operation is still underway.

>> josh letterman, we will continue to follow this and bring you updates. thank you. this was donald trump in 2018 telling his supporters not to believe their own lying eyes when it comes to bad news about him or the republican party. >> stick with us. don't believe the crap you see from these people. just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what is happening. >> since then, the gop fully embrace his "heads i win, tails you lose" approach and nowhere has this loser mind-set been apparent than in reaction to upcoming debates with trump and biden. after weeks of trump demanding biden debate him "anytime, anywhere," biden called his bluff and agreed to two upcoming debates, june 27th and september 10th. you would think this would actually have satisfied trump and his allies but it did not.

almost immediately, republicans, like mr. ramaswamy , and mike lee, cast doubt on the fairness of the debate, preemptively calling it a setup and accusing the moderators of trying to help biden. right-wing figures, including trump's daughter-in-law, followed suit, saying the debate is already corrupt and rigged. >> the scales have always been tipped against donald trump. it's rigged so heavily in joe biden favor but everything always is. >> it's hard enough to win a debate against a sitting president, even though you know the issue so well, but had two moderators working against you. >> you didn't choose those guys because they thought they would be fair, he chose them because he assumed they wouldn't be. >> this is a corrupt enterprise. >> it's the same, tired playbook we've seen from the right, telling their supporters that anything that counters their narrative is fake or rigged against them. under the biden administration, there fake numbers, fbi stats

showing violent crime is down despite fear mongering, in their world, it's biden "cooking the books." this goes back to trump and his allies and their efforts to undermine the election results that don't go their way. we sought happen in 2020 and the gop is intent on doing it again in 2024. this is the alternate reality that the gop has cultivated for their supporters, to believe anything they say and distrust any inconvenient facts that debunk their narrative. they say facts don't care about your feelings, but what they really mean is there feelings don't care about the facts. with an all-star panel to break this down for us, senior adviser at the lincoln project and former gop communications director, and the former democratic senator, barbara boxer of california. thank you for joining us. as a former republican, tara, was your reaction to the sore

loser approach from trump and the gop already about the issue of the debate, as much as they pride themselves on being winners, as they like to think? they don't sound like it when they are constantly complaining about things not going their way . >> they are not winners, they are whiners, and that is part of the trump brand. he has whined and complained about things being unfair and against them, the system rigged against them for years, even in business. he brought that to the white house. he was the grievance mongering in chief. this is consistent with how donald trump behaves and obviously, the republican party has taken on his image and likeness down to his red tie uniform. it's pathetic but predictable. this is what they do to rile their people up, and joe biden is good at debating. we've seen joe biden wins he does in 2020 and we see what a

disaster donald trump is on the debate stage. they do this to inoculate him, that's what this is about. >> trump publicans have been waiting for debate, they pushed for a debate, they got the answer they wanted and joe biden agreed, and they are complaining it's rigged before it even happens, so how do you deal with these people. if you do, did and if you don't. >> i hope that sensible republicans, that the lincoln project is speaking to every day, and thank you, tara, sensible, independent voters and a vast majority will get this stuff. they are phonies.

they kept saying they wanted the debate, they thought joe biden wouldn't debate donald trump have to face the fact that you have these two guys, who were both president for about four years, and let's look at the record. the greatest job producer versus the worst jobs record since records were being kept. going after a woman's private decisions. the stock market doubled under joe biden, things that young people care about, climate, mass shootings, all of this will be on display and they are panicked. >> when you see senators like marco rubio refusing to commit to accepting the results of the election, as he did earlier on "meet the press," this has an impact on voters. this is eroding the confidence us and we recently spoke to more than 50 trump supporters.

most said they won't accept a biden win in november because they don't believe that joe biden can be donald trump again. >> people like joe biden enablers of the worst ones. i blame them for the mess with trump and maga more than trump. donald trump is who he is. he has always been this person. if the people, like marco rubio and others in the establishment republican party, that no better and debase themselves for political expediency? marco rubio is unrecognizable for the guy -- from the guy who ran for president in 2016. he was promising, sensible, pretty moderate, and now he has turned into a trump lackey and it's quite sad. most people can see through the disingenuous nature of what he's saying, but the problem is that it is so incredibly dangerous and insulting to those of us who understand that the integrity of our elections

are the hallmark, the cornerstone, of our free and fair democracy. the fact that they continue to chip away at this, to score points with donald trump because for whatever reason, these people want to be donald trump's vice president? they are selling our country in our democracy down the river so that they can have political relevance. it's ridiculous, it's dangerous, and we have to continue to call them out for this because there's no basis, whatsoever, to claim the election is not free and fair, that it would be rigged, coming up in november if donald trump loses. donald trump will lose because the american people recognize he's a dangerous authoritarian lunatic that wants to destroy our democracy and joe biden is a good and decent man who's done a great job as president, who does not want to take away women's rights and send us back to 1848. >> when we talk about the gop adopting authoritarian tactics, it comes from not just donald trump, but i do want to play

you this clip of him joking last night at the nra conference about potentially serving three terms. take a listen. >> fdr, 16 years. almost 16 years. he was four terms. three term or two term? >> what's your reaction? he likes to skirt, but the way he injects the idea into the minds of his followers before we even get there is troubling. he's normalizing the idea that, you know, he will come in and perhaps up and the constitution and get rid of term limits so he can stay in power indefinitely if you were to win. >> either he doesn't know that it's in the constitution, that he only has two terms, or he is sending a signal, which we know he does and from time to time,

like he is going to be a dictator on day one. someone said oh, well, you know, only the first day. the first day he can declare martial law, and over and out for democracy. i have to say, i remember when donald trump was debating marco rubio, when marco rubio ran against him for the presidential nod and he said, little marco. i am a little person, and i was very upset about it and i knew marco rubio. in those days he was pretty good. now, he is little marco. now, what he is doing is, bending the knees, i want to say it in a fair way, to donald trump. that is really scary and it's happening all the time with my former republican colleagues. they have given up their soul. how the even sleep at night, i don't know. >> we saw how these election

conspiracies culminated with the violence and insurrection on january 6 and this week, georgia republicans elected amy kramer, per champ activist who organized that generates six rally that preceded the attack on the capital for a seat on the rnc. are we at the point, where helping shape of the events of january 6th is a selling point for republicans seeking a future office? they run on those credentials that they were involved in the insurrection in order to win. >> apparently, i am up here in upstate new york in seneca falls and there is a camp running against a current republican incumbent who is running to the right, this is the world turned upside down. i don't think anyone could imagine that an insurrection against our capital would be a

badge of valor. what world are we living in? i want people to understand they are telling us who the republican party is, now. that's why it needs to burn to the ground and build again with people, but that can't happen until maga is vanquished. they have no business being in a democracy. they're not democratic, loving people. they do not have power. they are telling us what they want to believe. >> according to trump, they are hostages. j6 hostages, as he likes to say. we have more to discuss. a up next, republicans have a chance to take control of the senate in the election. how do democrats stop them?

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the future of united date senate could hinge on the conservative state of west virginia. the popular republican governor secured his party's nomination for senate last week p the washington post writes that his victory all but guarantees republicans will flip the seat in the state currently held by retiring democratic senator, joe manchin. it leaves democrats with little margin for error in the next election. of course, this seat is vital given the current split in the u.s. senate. if democrats find a way to keep the chamber, there's a chance they could reverse the damage done by republicans. democrats could utilize their power to weaken the filibuster rule, the 60 vote threshold, to pass major legislation. they could do it to codify rights that republicans have robbed from americans and based on reporting, the president says he supports that. tara and

barbara are back with me. senator, the democrats, are they right to push for the nuclear option on the filibuster, to ensure and protect some of these fundamental rights, women's rights reproductive care, and the voting rights? >> there are a couple of areas, those two, i think, make a lot of sense. they did not do it and now the question is, will they be able to after the election? i've been following, as you probably would and i would, the senate races. yeah, if we say that west virginia is a lost cause, but we look at the rest of our blue states senators, they are very good candidates. if they hold, and we just pick up texas, florida, missouri, nebraska, which turns out to be a close race, we could have the opportunity to perform the

filibuster. i want to make one point that many people don't know. the filibuster was never in the constitution. it's an accident of history. when we were founded, there was a motion to close the debate that was given in the house, it's called "the question," and everyone assumed the senate would do it and they did until 1837. then, there was some kind of a censure of president jackson, and somebody noticed that they could filibuster. this is not some sacred article . i think that we often forget the basis of our freedoms and yes, for certain issues, i would definitely be on that side . >> republicans have a favorable map right now when it comes to the senate pay democrats a little wiggle room for defeat in november. if you are a democratic operative, what is the case you make against republicans in

some of these key races, perhaps the one the senator outlines, whether it be texas, colin allred having a good chance, nebraska, missouri, florida? how do democrats take them down? >> some of these states are little tougher than others. we cannot ignore the fact that since the dobbs decision, there's been a political shift in this country. women have had enough and are not going to take it anymore and the issue of abortion and reproductive rights in some of these states, particularly places like florida or others where abortion is on the ballot, women's rights could have a significant impact on some of these races. that's a political dynamic that i don't think republicans expect it. when they saw the dobbs decision come down there was a collective freak out in the republican party as they recognize there's a significant number of republicans that are pro-choice.

people are not going to like this. i think with that issue in the forefront, it gives democrats an opportunity to pick up the seat somewhere they would not have had before because the women of this country are the ones who will save democracy. >> let me get your thoughts on how republicans, especially senator mcconnell, who are asked roots of the long game, play out the next chapter of the attack on these rights because the judiciary is proof of what mitch mcconnell and other republicans have worked at. what do you fear if republicans take the senate there? what might they do next? >> i fear project 2025. if people have not read that, they should. it's a manifesto that is a march toward authoritarianism and an overbearing federal government would suffer -- circumvents the will of the

people to do the bidding of a strawman president which is what donald trump has been fantasizing about. he tells us every time he opens his mouth a rally. we need to believe these people and he is surrounding himself with people who understand and the learning from the mistakes of his past administration. i fear a national abortion ban, we will need an underground women -- railroad for women. civil rights will be rolled back. we will have a supreme court compromised, somewhat, and unethical. the supreme court will save us, either. we are the only ones, as voters, who can save ourselves from the potential of what a donald trump president he and a republican senate to do. they will abandon allies overseas, they believe nato high and dry. russia will do whatever he wants. these are strategic alliances that are critically important to democracy around the world

but here in the united states as well. all these things are factors that people need to consider when thinking about who they are voting for and why and what kind of country they want to live in. >> senator boxer, joe manchin was not the only one to oppose eliminating the filibuster. you had kyrsten sinema from arizona who became independent before dropping out of the race . what you think of those who blame joe manchin for this reality? is that the reality or is it just politically convenient? >> well, this is the truth. you have to count and we couldn't do it because we were short the vote. i say, i hope we all listen to what tara said. she went through everything that is at stake in the

selection and i want to give you some hope, because of my age. my mother was born in 1911. it wasn't until 1920 that women have the right to vote so she used to take me to the voting booth with her and she would let me, there were at that time, little levers in new york that you pull down, and she would string democratic and she would say, don't tell daddy. that's a lot. my dad was kind of an eisenhower republican, if you will. i think there is something in that. women know it's not about abortion, per se, right? it's about making our decisions for ourselves, it's about respect, forcing pregnancies, putting young girls in danger, and they may not say anything to pollsters or to their husbands, but i'm counting on

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this was the scene in tel aviv last night. thousands of protesters took to the streets, calling for the ouster of prime minister or benjamin netanyahu and his government. large crowds gathered. the been out in full force weekly for the last several months, accusing the minister of dragging the war out. use a water cannon and other tactics mark significant escalation against protesters as they clash the police in the streets

of major cities. >> many argue that pacifiers are effective at securing the release of hostages but there is doubt of that happening. they said that benjamin netanyahu has reportedly rejected of proposal to read to renew negotiations action when israeli military said the recovered the body of a fourth hostage in gaza. tensions, ripping open blonde split at the heart of benjamin netanyahu's inner circle. a member of the work cabinet that he would leave the government june 8th if it did not formulate a new postwar plan , including an international administration to handle civilian affairs in gaza this is days after the defense

minister said the israeli military or civil governments would during the is the grandson of a man released by hamas earlier in the war. daniel, 11. let me get your reaction, that there's a proposal to renew negotiations on a hostage deal. the form released a statement calling on the israeli government to renew these talks immediately. we know that the u.s. national security adviser, jake sullivan, is also pushing for renewed talks to try to get hostages out. what do you want to see happen to break the stalemate? >> well, a simple thing, to send the negotiation team to

negotiate an agreement because there's no other way to bring back the hostages and after 2 to 7 days, i don't see any other way to bring them back, which means negotiations have to go to cairo or anywhere where it's possible to negotiate because i don't see any other way to bring back the hostages. i look forward to seeing that happening and i am pretty frustrated with everyone around that issue, from all the mediators, the u.s., the israeli government, all the governments around the world, which has to put their first priority on bringing back their civilians. that is what i am bringing back, every civilian

with an international past words, u.s. citizens, to try to find a creative way to bring back our loved ones. my grandfather is already 84 years old. he's a man of peace, a man of human rights, a man who did everything his life for coexistence and the help of minorities and for this man, the only great-grandfather held hostage in war today is still in gaza for 2 to 7 days, which means no one is doing enough. >> given what that you and other families have been dealing with, i know you been demonstrating for months and camped outside the minutes are's office. i know you are frustrated, but has your face changed in the

course of the war that you think they can no longer govern? do you want to see a new israeli government that meets your demands and expresses were shares your frustrations with securing a negotiated release of these hostages more urgently than the current government? >> my fear is that it will take such a long time until they are able to negotiate anything, but i think that pressure is most important. the pressure on the option of changing the government to put that pressure on benjamin netanyahu and everyone to negotiate a deal because we can all understand that the end of the war, cease-fire, anything,

to the release of the hostages. that is why i'm calling everyone to make the necessary pressure of all countries. it's impossible that the egyptians will take a step back. it's impossible that the americans will be concentrated now on the saudi agreements. hundred and 20 hostages are there and there's a conflict that hasn't been solved for more than 2000 years and now we need a solution for 120 hostages . i call on everyone to first of all, make sure the release of hostages happens before anything else because we know the end of the war is downriver to the release of the hostages and we need to pressure benjamin netanyahu, take

responsibility. as long as biden, and everyone should have it. my best friend, an american citizen, is still a hostage together with kid siegel and others that we saw and it's impossible that some people in the u.s. still don't know that there are u.s. citizens that are hostages and it's been 227 days. >> i know again that this is extremely frustrating and difficult with your friends and loved ones. we hope they are released as soon as possible. thanks for joining us. next, a concerning trend with the american education system.

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parents particularly white parents, have enrolled their children in charter schools that are majority white. this new wave of segregation in

schools across america come seven years after the supreme court's landmark decision in brown versus board of education. this week, plaintiffs and family members met with president biden to market anniversary. here is cheryl brown henderson, daughter of lead plaintiff, oliver brown. >> we are still fighting the battle over whose children do we invest in? there should be no such thing. public institutions are where most of us got our education and should be world-class educational institutions. >> 20 need to discuss this in more cheryl brown henderson. great to have you. i'm glad to have you to talk about this. did you ever imagine that students today in 2024 would be confronted with issues of segregation, the same issues that prompted your father to file this landmark case in 1951? >> well first of all, my father did not file this case, it was

an naacp case and a long campaign on the part of the end of -- naacp. our involvement with other litigants was prudent. it was something that was anticipatory in the pushback was rather immediate and has continued to this day. they realized that it was not over when brown was handed down in 1954, may 17th. it is something that was almost expect it because people would continue to look for ways. mass resistance to brown looks like what we are seeing now. the state of virginia lead that resistance, the governor of virginia had instituted policies at the state level that would afford white parents a way out of having their children attend school with african-american children, going so far as to penalize

school districts that were planning to comply. we have seen this movie before. fortunately, the naacp defense fund in new york and the naacp advocacy arm in baltimore are up to the task and i would imagine that as we seek, they are strategizing about how to address what is happening. >> when you see what's happening now in schools, this concerns there's a rise in school segregation that happening that we are seeing at the same time as this proliferation of right-wing attacks on education, book bans, are you worried about what students are missing out on? >> 100%. how does one develop empathy, if you are not allowed to learn

of another's story? if we are talking about a generation of young people that will not have that ability, that will not have that knowledge, but also, it impacts students of color because they are getting the message that is being sent, that their stories are not significant and their people didn't contribute to this country. i think about one of the governors from one of the southern states who said they would file in terms of teaching in classrooms, and actually said that they did not want to teach divisive concepts. i am not a divisive concept. it's a suggestion that african- americans involvement and contribution to this country, african-american his three, is a divisive concept is not only shortsighted, it's flat-out not true.

>> is an important point and it reminds me of this essay in the new york times magazine written by nicole hannah jones who writes about how the notion of colorblindness has been co- opted by conservative groups to try to stall or reverse racial progress. they think that we are living in a post-racial society and wants to prevent the desegregation of schools by looking beyond race. what are your thoughts on the way they are going about this, the co- opting of colorblindness? >> they are being very distant genuine and not for one moment do i believe that they are speaking honestly. there is no truth to that. i think so much propaganda that we have been shoveled lately in the last decade and obviously, all my life, is taking hold in very dangerous ways. we are being led to think they believe this. it is a strategy, nothing more. >> i wanted to conclude with your thoughts on the federal

government because back in 1950, now the government in. he, to make sure these attacks on our education system don't go through, would you think the federal government should be doing more or differently to make sure that these attacks at the school level do not exceed? >> the federal government is stepping up to the u.s. department of education as a civil rights division and when you look at the mammoth job they have in front of them in terms of school districts, i think they are up to the task and i know they're working on it as we speak. when we were in washington after meeting with president biden, we had an opportunity to listen to the policy positions and action being taken by the

u.s. department of education's rights division. i am encouraged. i think it's possible. how do you feed the elephant one small bite at a time? i think that's what's happening. i heard the young ladies beak to us with the civil rights division, she talked about the work they are doing now, identifying, researching, looking into the very thing we are talking about. what we really need to be mindful of is november. keeping the folks in place that are up to the task. >> a reminder of what is at stake come this election season. thank you for joining us. next, a texas governor's controversial pardon and the message behind it. all in one.

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we want to end with an update on texas governor greg abbott, pardoning daniel perry, the army sergeant sentence of 25 years in prison for murdering a black lives matter protester, in 2020. perry drove his car into a crowd of demonstrators, then stopped his car and shot and killed protester, derek foster and he was legally carrying sma on metabolic -- semiautomatic weapon in an open carry state that his gun was pointed down. perry said that he believed the man would aim at him and didn't want to give him a chance. court filings of phone records show he fantasized about killing protesters. a facebook message for may 2020, he wrote "might have to kill a few people

" who are writing outside his apartment complex. governor abbott rented a full pardon, citing "stand your ground" laws. so, why support daniel perry and not garrett foss are? it was perry who told police he shot and killed him before he aimed his gum -- gun at him. he's the profile conservative love, and air force veteran who carried a firearm. it's a clear signal from abbott to the far right that it's okay to commit violence as long as i was it is against your political enemy. texas leaders are not content with merely defending people like perry. that includes the travis county d.a. . he faces removal. "today's

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