thank you very much to both of you gentlemen. let's begin with mr. masud shajara. mr. shajari, we have just heard that netanyahu has approved uh attacking rafa. now this is a city that from the very beginning was deemed to be safe place for displaced palestinians. that is according to israeli sources themselves. why is this happening now at this point in time when? hamas is putting forth a ceasefire deal, a prisoner swap deal and is looking for ways to end the war. well, it's very clear that israel, it's this ziinus state from the outset was set to exclude palestinians from that land, ethnic cleans them and by any means possible and grab as much land as possible. possible, but this

particular government in particular, it it actually been committed to ethnic cleansing and genocide long before 7th of october, to the extent that there has been even conflict internally in this regime, because of this policy, this particular government is committed to that, so will use any... possible avenue, any possible opportunity to kill as many palestinian, kill as many children, kill as many women, and in their eyes, the children of gaza are the future palestinians and they need to be eradicated, they need to be killed, and this is why the policy since the 7th of october, which has been unleashed, it shows very... very clearly

that they are targeting innocent civilians with the brutality, without any mercy in front of tv cameras and while the international community is watching and advce united state and western allies are equipping and this zinust state to kill most effectively, most brutally and most systematically and "this is not what is happening right now, the fact that netanyahu wants to use this opportunity to kill as many people, innocent people as many palestinian and ethnically cleansed and the gaza, it's not a surprise, and it's not a new policy, it's been their policy, and they are pursuing it so openly and so publicly, and i think we need to wake up to this reality." otherwise,

otherwise this is going to go on and on and the you know international community is just uh doing nothing and and wishing for a change of policy, which is not going to happen without enough pressure being puts on designer state. well, mr. shajar, you raised some very important issues right there, but i would like to rewind what you said and go back to a part which is very important, you said all of this is happening in front of tv. cameras and the international community is watching, so let's bring in our guest from belfast, mr. mr. shath, i'm not sure if i'm pronouncing your name correctly, i hope that i do, but uh, israel is committing war crimes, crimes that have been defined by international law as war crimes. israel has completely neglected what is known to be as the geneva convention uh or what the icrc itself claims. to be rules for war uh, so

what do you think the intention of israel is by so openly neglecting everything that um modern human beings uh believe to be the pillars of the modern society? let me just grasp the last statement you said, this modern civilized society which you talking about, it's all fake and and hypocracy. it was, it used to be used just by the west when they want to intimidate a country or impose sanction or just get their interest through and the international law and international community and international organizations being formed after the second world war like the united nation and these bodies and geneva even convention and the special the fourth article of it and that it's all approven gaza is approved all of them. was fake and it was

just hypocracy, since uh the united states of america as they claim the leaders of the free world which means the western cam, they they themselves... 'who showed us in gaza, they they they said they pretend with this zinus entity as their outpost, military post in there, and i want to say it's their banana republic in the middle in the middle of west asia, which is the the designist try to deny that like bengivir when said we are not a banana republic to this to the americans, they are a banana republic in there and they with that'. support of the united states, without the money, without the funding, without the arms, they will be disappear in weeks and this is one point, the united states of america who can open the the the land routes from rafak or karmabu salem to

bring the miles upon miles from aid waiting in the borders of rafa can do it with one for call to order not to ask netanyahu and they were... to pay because they know without the united states of america they they can't, but biden said there is no red line when he was talking about for netanyahu for the israelies means they can do whatever they want and the united states of america can can ask the protend like they care for the palestinians once they start the this air drops of aid which is landed in tub of people and killed seven at some stage the united states of america drop few barcels of aid on gaza. on this hand and on the other hand tons upon tons of ammunition going to the the zinis entity supplying it the same goes for the british for the germans for the french for australia for canada all this western camps

is becoming discusted because they are involved in com they are complessed in genocide now if we can hear the the rulings of the international court about asking israel to follow one to three steps and some and provide this report and as well to take steps not to put the palestinians lives in harm way and to allow the the aid in and telling the governments who supply this entity with lot of with cash and with the amenition and with that are complicit with it this is a clear but none listens. the zin entity they they think they are shield and by this western diplomatic shield or from any organization to impose it anything we witness the united states of america use three vetos against the seas fire in gaza to save the the

people in gaza the they can 30% of the children in gaza mnutrition now and lot of them dying from hunger and starvation and we can see the round about of kuwaiti around in in western gaza become the call nickname the flower massacers since people go gather there waiting for any trucks to get them any kind of aid or flower to get to their starving children there is their life and lot of them knows they can go there and not coming back since but they have to do something for their kids and this is all done at the watch of the united states of america exactly it's all happening. under the watch of the us and also mr. shajare uh the u.s. also did some uh kind of what i would like to call a propaganda move to send some aid that at best can be described as drop in the bucket uh something that could only uh make some headlines for

just few days uh sending some kind of uh meger amount of aid to gaza while it is supporting israel by sending tons uh for weapons, all kinds of weapons that israel needs, let alone as our guests in belfast just mentioned, all the support that uh it gives to the zionist entity in the united nations by vetoing any attempt for a cease fire. it really is outrageous, it is outrageous that this level of killing and brutality, it goes on, it's outrageous that no attempt is being made to stop it, and indeed there is veto taking place to make sure that it will not stop, there is a political cover for um this zianist state by

united states and its western allies to make sure that the killing will continue uh with with his brutality and with his totality, and indeed arms are being poured in, free of charged, they're not even being, they're not even being sold to kill. innocent people, everybody knows what's going on, and indeed, let us not forget that the corridor for aid to go into israel, to go to this zinanis state and feed, not just the pe zionist, but feed the war machine is going through saudi arabia, emirate and and jordan, and you know oil is going through turkey. "this is outrageous, it's outrageous because it's happening in front of the world population,

we are seeing it day in, day out. i'm sick and tired of actually seeing this, i'm sick and tired of seeing myself and my family crying their eyes out in this month of ramadan for human beings being treated in that way, and at the same time united state claim to be..." champion of democracy, champion of human right, champion of of standing for the weak ones around the world, and this is outrageous, it has to stop, where is the democracy? 70 to 80% of western nations population is asking for cease fire now right now, and you know these, these criminals who are in. power, bit in britain, france, germany or united states are indeed

ignoring their own people, and then they claim that this is democracy. i i think what is now is very clear that all the institutions that be been set up to stop these sort of brutal war crimes, be at united state, international courts and so forth are not fit for purpose. "and we need to bring a change, and we need to bring a change not just in these international institutions, but citizens in britain, france, germany and united states need to ask themselves, do they want this direction of going towards sort of jungle, law of jungle, people killing each other and being allowed to commit genocide in such open way or..." or they are responsible to bring an end to it and they will put more

effort already, i take my hat out to people in britain, france, germany and others who are coming out in demonstrations day in day out, but it needs to go far beyond demonstrations, we need to sort of say enough is enough, and i think we need to demand that there has to be some justice prevailing at. at this 11th hour. you're absolutely right, mr. shajara, and these grassroots campaigns have proven to be successful in inflicting heavy losses on corporations that support israel. we've had uh mcdonald's and also starbucks announcing heavy losses. so, mr. shath, uh, could you please uh tell us in your opinion, could the same grassroot campaigns puts the same amount of pressure on their? governments who are clearly against their people's will, are still supporting

israel? i just came today from a massive demonstration in belfast, i addressed it in front of the american consulate and the people are outraged and the outraged at their own local politicians and and in ireland they are outraged at the irish prime minister and irish leader. the biggest political parties going in st patrick day which is the irish national day to hand the shamrock to joe biden and they say you know like you don't go and shake hands with genocidal joe uh and the the the people are disgusted with the with with with their leadership with their political parties oven trying to implicit their... political parties in supporting genocide by going and sitting with joe biden,

that limit, it's it's it's a massive call uh for them to to turn away from doing that, but tomorrow the whole thing will be, so i don't think the the united states of america even in the the congress the they issued bill for banning or taken over tok, because they think it is lot of the young... are getting their news from there, not from the mainstream media, because of palestine, because of the what's going on in palestine, they they want only the lies comes of from the fox news or cnn or bbc to trickle to the people, they want to control them and make them ship people, they don't understand the people are educated and they can think and make decision for themselves, they do want to keep bombarding them with lies, since studies says there is 80% of the people who read the news,

they don't go to find out was it right or wrong to analyze, so they depend on that. and there is huge industry in the zienist entity in fake news and telling lies, since that entity itself was based on lies, lies, religious lies, national lies, ethnic groups lies, everything about that entity and its leaderships, designist entity is lies, and united states of america, i want to say to my friend which pretending the leader of the free world and supposed to defend the as he said mr. shajri the the week, they are not, and you know, and i know, they the one who committed genocide after genocide in vietnam, they the one who killed the the the first nation in in in america, they they inhalated them, they the one who destroy a lot of countries in latin america, they the one who killed nearly two million iraqis in iraq

under couple of lies which is prove weapons of mass destruction and stuff like that, and is still stagnating the iraki economy and looting everything in there, they the one who went in syria under the cover of the want to fight daesh with they created and they looting the oil and the gas from syria and destroying the country, they the one who want to make sure the z entity destroy gaza and crying to netanyahu like the killing them softly, gently as biden said, it's disgusting and... it's about time, i agree with you brother, the new order supposed to be emerging and learning, because gaza exposed them all. so mr. shajar, in your opinion, how much power do these grassroots campaigns have, and can they put enough pressure on the governments? or let's say how far would these governments dare to go? well, i, i think i

think what very clear that these gover'. they have now morally morally bankrupt, ideologically bankrupt, and you know when it comes to law and order their bankrupt, but never before until now they were exposed the way that they exposed now, it's true what happened in vietnam, is true all the things that brother is is highlighting, but it's really just now that masses in west. are waking up to these realities, and i think this is the beginning of the end of the influence of these politicians, these politicians have to be punished when it comes to the election, they don't fear anything else, they have no morality, they've got no common sense or dignity, they need to be

punished on the ballot on the ballot paper, and and indeed i think that's going to... happen and indeed i think this what we are seeing, this mass awakening that we are seeing right across western world, be united states, france, germany, etc. etc. despite the fact that the are using sort of dictatorial policies to stop these demonstrations, to legistrate to stop this demonstration and to stop the voice of those who... are standing up for justice and saying never again, but nevertheless is growing, it's growing by minute, it's growing by day, it's growing every month, and so i would, my my response to your question is that this is not the end, but this is the beginning of the end of this sort of politics being used to con, not just people in western asia and

around the world, but cing their own... citizens and and this awakening is going to matter and is strength is becoming more uh powerful day by day. you're absolutely right, mr. shajar and just as mr. shath just mentioned, he has come back from a mass demonstration in ireland, we have been seeing pro- palestine demonstrations in countries that we would never imagine, and mr. shath, in your opinion uh how... how far do you think these demonstrations can go and we also live in the day and age of social media, so how do you think social media can also uh increase solidarity with uh the palestine? and in order to bring a change in in ireland it's there is similarities because they suffered colonial and they suffer the same thing so there is a connection in the

struggle but as well social media influencing big time since the people get their news straight from the source they sometimes they get it even in arabic from someone who's been his house or her house attack and they see the images and they see the starvation and they see the effect of and they cannot see any of that being even displayed on their own mainstream media and one of the other things in here which is been witnessing since from last november till now the respect these demonstration showing for the lebanese resistant and mainly for the yemani resistant, it's amazing to see the and see how the people are proud to see there is noble movement like the... yemenies and the lebanese resistant or the iraqi resistant coming to support the palestinians as they they compare that to what che givara done in

the late 60s in in africa and supporting the african against the upper tide and trying to fight so there is a movement growing to dismantle one of the slogans they saying you have to dismantle this zinis entity out of and take out of this region a lot of the youngsters, jewish even voices start to say in that as well, so this is become a grassroot movement which will influence everything, and the first result you can see of that, the election of the honorable george galloway as member of the parliament in britain, it's he came to the platform on as for gaza and was elected for that, and this movement will become bigger and bigger and bigger. and this will change a lot of the ruling elite, you not going to see their faces again in offices, i hope so, and in order to wrap this up, mr. shajade, uh, are

you hopeful to see this kind of change that mr. shath just mentioned, particularly with george galloway being elected, as he mentioned right now, could we see similar changes in other countries, people coming to power that uh are actually in solidarity with palestine. well what happened with the election of george is um it it really sets up uh a president uh that it is possible, it is possible to go in and actually defeat both main political parties and he got more vote than the other four parties after him put all together and this actually grives gives the uh electorate and the the heart that see that it is possible to do this on the day of bat on the election and i think it would repeat

itself, but i think as the other contributors said very clearly there are two awakening, one is on the brutality of zionist estate and it's intention to kill and commit genocide and for the fact that political... parties in the west are supporting it in every way and are duplicate in committing those genocide, and then on other hand, it's what the solution is, the resistance is being praised by every freedom loving person around the world, because no one else, no one else whatsoever is taking any step to stop this genocide and people be at in yemen or elsewhere. are actually sacrificing their lives, sacrificing their well-being, sacrificing very little that they have, but to stop this genocide taking place, and that

is being appreciated right across the world, so all the propagandas that was being running out of time, those are being exposed. thank you very much, i'm sorry to cut you off right there, but we're running out of time, mr. masoud chajade, chairman of the... islamic human rights commission from london and also mr. saib shath, author and west asia expert from belfast. thanks for joining us on this edition of the spotlight. and thanks to all of you viewers for watching this edition. it's a special time for britain's 3 million muslims. "the fasting hours are long, up to 20 hours a day, but the physical and spiritual rewards are worth it. ramadan has been a fantastic time, in sense, in the sense

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