get it from from sauce on to sons on set putting in their hours taking for sarah say their kid and their kids do and they're doing their job doing the best doing the best they can so they can end it and they'll live in it in a country that they're very very happy to be living in and they don't and they watch cable they don't watch cable news so the baby lives so you see it as it is probably fisi is probably wrangling really figuring you know we cover we cover america all day long on the b.b.c. and when we go to america apparently there are not really are american all day long on the b.b.c. and when we go to america apparently they're not really doing the things that we think that they're doing but there's the other side too which is when i grew out of the doing the things that we think that they're doing but there's the other side too which is when i grew up in the seventy's we used to watch these programs about how the great american up in the seventy's we used to watch these programs about how the great american next millennium what it would be was

a time of leisure and that we would have time with our next millennium what it would be was a time of leisure and that we would have time with our family and there would be these robots and stuff like that that would take care of our laundry and all the family and there were be these robots and stuff like that that would take care of our laundry and all of our jobs would be like we would have a lot of time like things would get better of our jobs would be like we would have a lot of time like things would get better but in fact what you're seeing in much of the country where the but in fact what you're seeing in much of the country where the deplorable is live is that they have to work 2 or 3 or 4 jobs that they have for a bull's live is that they have to work 2 or 3 or 4 jobs that they have to run in this like faster and faster just to stay even run in this like faster and faster just to stay even with their debt. just to make the minimum monthly debt payment on

their credit card with their debt just to make the minimum monthly debt payment on their credit cards that are needed in order to sustain their life i.e. the basics the maps that are needed in order to sustain their life i.e. the basics the maslow's basic message cities food shelter health care those have to us those basic message cities food shelter health care those have to all be put to death it's ratcheted up the use of put huge amounts of debt it's ratcheted up these costs are massive so you have people that are tired and in 2000 to think so you have people that are tired and too tired to think because they're working nonstop and that's a danger because in because they're working nonstop and that's a danger because in washington d.c. they don't seem to have to we sort that he r.

and b. because they just live off they don't plan how their offer of to work that hard because they've you're just tack of access the plunge there of so they're fresh in your favor tax if it isn't and bush is their bushie to fresh face else in old and bush bushy tailed like taking all your money here they talk to another guy in this town circleville ohio taking all your money here they talked to another guy in this town circleville ohio and he why it was at the show in the famous dance and he evan as a construction with he was at the pumpkin show and his name is danny evans a construction laborer who said he was too busy with work to care about what was happening in syria or who said he was too busy with work to care about what was happening in syria or understand i leave at 4 30 in the morning and i get home at 6 or understand i leave at 4 30 in the morning and i get home at 630 or 7 at night i. eat dinner with my kids and i go to best 30 or 7 at night i eat dinner with my

kids and i go to bed and i get up again he says he learns a bit about current events from facebook but he's dead and i get up again he says he learns a bit about current events from facebook but he doesn't watch or read the news regularly what he says he does know however is that the us doesn't watch or read the news regularly what he says he does know however is that the u.s. has been too weak for too long we need somebody like trump was going to stand up for our causes been too weak for too long we need somebody like trump was going to stand up for our country and some to tell them that that we're in the uniting of this and i say this state and they can't and that with a stance leap with us right on banning totally in agreement with banning on that one you know the difference between america right on banning and i'm totally in agreement with danny on that one you know the difference between america and europe again you know. in america.

in america the idea. is if you that just a job you're in between jobs. in europe the idea is work is gains were it gains of it where you're. make a horse or you're in between vacations. you know how they have when you're there and you're in for almost 20 years. and use and see and it pretty sticky italy and particularly in countries like france where the whole objective of getting out of mourning is to feel like france where the whole objective of getting up in the morning is to figure out how to get more time off how to be on vacation and work is considered evil figure out how to get more time off how to be on vacation and work is considered evil and considered a complete waste of time in america it's the opposite people don't even take all

the days all and considered a complete waste of time in america it's the opposite people don't even take all the days off that they're given they love to work americans love to work that's why this is different than country that it is they like to get up and work all day so this is not necessarily a story about someone being off that they are given they love to work americans love to work that's why this is different than country that it is they like to get up and work all day so this is not necessarily a story about someone being overworked to work on work but he who this is somebody is telling a little look the look i don't give a if i don't care i don't. have worked out i love work and i worked him and just jumps make an invaluable for me to work more that's what i love about him then i worked him and just jumps make an invaluable for me to work more that's what i love about him the quote for me that is relevant is the woman who says she's so sleepy at times quote for me that is relevant is the woman who says she's so sleepy at times i can't concentrate and to me that is important because we are an empire and

we concentrate and to me that is important because we are an empire and we are a declining empire and this is part of the accumulation of gold or a declining empire and this is part of the accumulation of gold reserves by any other news by people who are worried that it's we are in people of people who are exhausted students that we are a nation of people so exhausted and so tired. not only are we exhausted on a physical level at the bottom not so central tired not only are we exhausted on a physical level at the bottom 99 percent of people have people who are poor as we said and as in the last episode we had 60 percent of americans. step aside 60 percent of americans can even pay for their current expenses out of earnings so that the half for their current expenses out of their earnings so they have to go into debt these are people that are exhausted but the cable news where our elite

messaging is sent out to the people to go into debt these are people that are exhausted but on the cable news where our elite messaging is sent out to the people not only are people too exhausted now to even listen to them and know what they're supposed to think but not only are people too exhausted now to even listen to them and know what they're supposed to think but they've run out of ideas they you know you see that in the russia gay stuff you see the they've run out of ideas they you know you see that in the russia gay stuff you see it like with crazy hillary coming out and saying you know her stuff against with crazy hillary coming out and saying you know her stuff against chelsea gabbert and jill stein where she's accusing them of basically. and jill stein where she's accusing them of being kremlin. you know agents or something then you see biden also doing the same thing you know agents or something then you see biden also doing the same thing

he's like we've got you've got to send me money for my campaign because otherwise russia will take me down he's like we've got you've got to send me money for my campaign because otherwise russia will take me down or something like that so they've run out of ideas on the cable news and here i'm going to for something like that so they've run out of ideas on the cable news and here i'm going to turn to the elite class because of course goldman sachs you know they run they turn to the elite class because of course goldman sachs you know they run they there's a revolving door between the banking wall street class especially goldman says there's a revolving door between the banking wall street class especially goldman sachs and the halls of power in washington d.c. at the i.m.f. at the world acts and the halls of power in washington d.c. at the i.m.f. at the world bank at the e.c.b. at the central banks so they're powerful firm and hank paulson bank at the e.c.b.

at the central banks so they're powerful firm and hank paulson was at the head of the treasury when we hit the financial crisis and was at the head of the treasury when we hit the financial crisis in 2008 and 9 before that of course he was at goldman sachs so here 2008 and 9 before that of course he was at goldman sachs so here is some of the quote from him matching this exhausted person the sum of quote from him matching this exhausted person the deplorable person that has to work for a living here's hank paulson describing the deplorable person that has to work for a living here's hank paulson describing what happened during the financial crisis how a late night phone call what happened during the financial crisis how a late night phone call. all from warren buffett in 2008 may have helped save the u.s. economy from warren buffett in 2008 may have helped save the u.s.

economy of course this elite class writing in the media think it saved the u.s. of course this elite class of writing in the media think it saved the u.s. economy and that has nothing to do with why this woman in circleville ohio s economy and that has nothing to do with why this woman in circleville ohio is totally exhausted having to work several jobs but an october 2008 in the midst totally exhausted having to work several jobs but an october 2008 in the midst of the financial crisis berkshire hathaway c.e.o. warren buffett made a late night phone it's the financial crisis berkshire hathaway c.e.o. warren buffett made a late night phone call to then treasury secretary henry hank paulson with an idea about how the got called to then treasury secretary henry hank paulson with an idea about how the government might be able to turn the economy around paulson was asleep he had a busy not verman might be able to turn the economy around paulson was asleep he

had a busy night working through various policy ideas with his team to restore confidence and wall street working through various policy ideas with his team to restore confidence and wall street egos on to say 1st he woke up he didn't know where he was who is this egos on to say 1st he woke up he didn't know where he was who is this person warring call and he said my mom has a handyman named warren person warring call and he said my mom has a handyman named warren and i'm saying who it why is my mom's handyman calling me you know so he was and i'm saying who it why is my mom's handyman calling me you know so he was so sleepy he couldn't concentrate warren buffett got him. so sleepy he couldn't concentrate warren buffett got him and proposed with that tarp fund the start funds that instead of i proposed with that tarp fund the start

funds that instead of buying up assets why don't you just inject it directly into the banks he say a-k. eyeing up assets why don't you just inject it directly into the banks he say a-k. like in the middle of sleep so it was time paulson it's not a lack of slick it's about not like in the middle of sleep so it was time paulson it's not a lack of sleep it's about narcolepsy which accompanying that would be hallucinations so here's a guy who's mentally ill which accompanying that would be hallucinations so here's a guy who's mentally unstable who gets a call in the middle the night from the largest owner in stable who gets a call in the middle the night from the largest owner of bank shares shares in banks in america of bank shares shares in banks in america if you look over warren buffett's portfolio it's mostly banks. if you look over warren buffett's portfolio it's mostly banks and he is the single biggest

owner of shares in banks so he calls the treasury secretary who's on the single biggest owner of shares in banks so he calls the treasury secretary who's a narcoleptic and mentally unstable and said whispers that is there 1 am arkell uptick and mentally unstable and sit whispers at his ear at 1 am you know what maybe you should just print a few trillion dollars and bail out me you know what maybe you should just print a few trillion dollars and bail out me bill me out please hank instead of trying to do something in and bail me out please hank instead of trying to do something you know structural or something that might cost me a penny this could be a great opportunity for me what a structure. or all or something that might cost me a penny this could be a great opportunity for me warren buffett just give me the money oh it took care of the for all and of course our own baf it just give me the money oh it took care of

the for all and of course that's exactly what they did and of course i want to congress own shares in berkshire hathaway and bank stocks they all may have touched exactly what they did and of course i want to congress own shares in berkshire hathaway and bank stocks they all may have tons of money again i don't know about any sort of mental health issues but in terms of weapons or money again i don't know about any sort of mental health issues but in terms of whether or not this is predatory or not for warren buffett to call a guy in the middle of the night all these are not this is predatory or not for warren buffett to call a guy in the middle of the night all these sleeping and of course reminds me of the predatory hospitals for example where you arrive in a sleeping and of course reminds me of the predatory hospitals for example where you arrive in a perhaps a coma unconscious or you're put under and sedated and then they perhaps a coma unconscious or you're put under and sedated and then they they have a fly by doctor who comes in and racks you know charges you $50000.00 a have a fly by doctor who comes in and racks you know charges you 50000 dollars for

looking at your chart because he's out of network here the same thing is he's. looking at your chart because he's out of network here the same thing as he's hank paulson is just handed the week before a few days before $700000000000.00 also and is just handed the week before a few days before $700000000000.00 without any. like parameters imposed on him by our allies without any. like parameters imposed on him by our legislative bodies so congress gives him $700000000000.00 warren buffett calls them in the middle legislative bodies so congress gives him $700000000000.00 warren buffett calls him in the middle of the night says hey give me it and yet it rescues him but here so here's a call the night is this. give me it and yet it rescues him but here so here's a class like were it also establishes that hank paulson had no idea what to do with them last like were it also establishes that hank paulson had no idea what to do

with the money but oh you know we know from testimony that the reason they settle on $700000000000.00 is money but oh you know we know from testimony that the reason they settle on $700000000000.00 is for the reason that quote one trillion sounded too big and quote that's all the thing for the reason that quote one trillion sounded too big and quote that's all the thinking they did on this so they were out of ideas some saying like the woman that has to work they did on this so they were out of ideas some saying like the woman that has to work the man who has to work at 430 to sustain all of this fraudulent clad a man who has to work at 430 to sustain all of this fraudulent class this plunder class there are too tired to think here these 2 these people are just as plunder class they're too tired to think here these 2 these people are too they're out of ideas they can't even think of an original idea and then finally to their out of

ideas they can't even think of an original idea and then finally tying this all together in terms of you know this decline of empire out of a tying this all together in terms of you know this decline of empire out of ideas student loans crisis not mideast wars helped army leaders excede rick ideas student loans crisis not mideast wars helped army leaders exceed recruiting goals this year says this is from the army times and they say that army leadership gathered to say took root in goals this year says this is from the army times and they say that army leadership gathered to say to announce that they surpassed their recruiting goal for $21000.00 signing up more than 68000 ounces they surpassed their recruiting goal 421000 signing up more than 68000 active duty soldiers before the end of the fiscal year but the long war in the middle east is an active. the soldiers before the end of the fiscal year but the long wars in the middle east weren't exactly part of the sales pitch based on his experience visiting $30.00 to $40.00 recruits were exactly part of the sales pitch based on his experience

visiting 30 to 40 recruiting stations osier the eventual outcomes of wars abroad are not really part of the discussion but in stations a c. or the eventual outcomes of wars abroad are not really part of the discussion between potential soldiers and their recruiters said major general frank month he said one of the night when potential soldiers and their recruiters said major general frank month he said one of the national crises right now is student loans so $31000.00 about the average the national crises right now is student loans so $31000.00 about the average they owe you can get out of the army after 4 years 100 percent paid for the state college oh you can get out of the army after 4 years 100 percent paid for the state college anywhere in the united states so these people who are too tired to think the only way out of anywhere in the united states so these people who are too tired to think the only way out of that is to go to college or rack up debts which leaves you then too tired to think because if the work that is to go to college or rack up debts which leaves you then too tired to

think because if they work 5 or 6 jobs to pay off this debt and pay for obamacare you saying that this is recruiting people for 6 jobs to pay off this debt and pay for obamacare you saying that this is recruiting people into this war that they don't even know what as the b.b.c. established nobody knows what it's all into this war that they don't even know what as the b.b.c. established nobody knows what it's where they're for what it's about you know wars become generic and america brand it where they're for what it's about you know wars become generic and america used to be branded like world war 2 you had a branded enemy the germans the hun there was a britain like world war 2 you had a branded enemy the germans the hun there was a branded enemy now it's purely generic brand x. we don't even look at who the enemy is it's just go and an enemy. now is purely generic brand x. we don't even look at who the enemy is it's just go pay get money pay down debt that's a common has become and the cost of war is cheap because they get money pay down

debt that's a common has become and the cost of war is cheap because you just print the money like the generic brand used to be had to actually spend gold to buy those you just print the money like the generic brand used to be had to actually spend gold to buy guns to go kill people now you just print money buy guns and kill people the cost of wars guns to go kill people now you just print money buy guns and kill people the cost of war is down in the generic war level you print debt you don't print money you print death on in the generic war level you print debt you don't print money you print death they're printing. makes me sleepy. there pointing to a makes me sleepy. i'm

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our time speaks about the modern civilization the financial intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. shows seem wrong. but old rules just don't all. seem wrong. but old rules just don't all. get to shape out just because i mean you get to say proud disdain because as a kid and in games read equals betrayal. as a kid and in games written equals betrayal. when flamini find

themselves worlds apart. just. one thing find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. to look for common ground. welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to a very special guest to me welcome back to the kaiser report imax keyser time now to turn to a very special guest dmitri orloff of club orloff dot blogspot dot com it's been a future or a lot of club orloff dot blogspot dot com it's been

a few years dmitri nice to have you back it's great to be back with you max all your ideas to me let me just get a knot in nice to have you back it's great to be back with you max all righty let's get into it so you're a russian american living in st petersburg russia what's that like in the days of the anti russian hysteria so you're a russian american living in st petersburg russia what's that like in the days of the anti russian hysteria from the so-called liberal america well i would say that from the so-called liberal america. well i would say that it's same as ever because nobody here has any clue that i've spent a couple of decades same as ever because nobody here has any clue that i've spent a couple of decades living in the us i just russian i live in russia that's makes living in the us i just russian i live in russia it's the most natural thing

imaginable. the united states and the madness the most natural thing imaginable. the united states and the madness it gets covered in the news but it's not a major top it gets covered in the news but it's not a major topic of interest to most russians about do only time it really quick of interest to most russians about do only time it really comes up is when i. try talking about the united states to one of the comes up is when i. try talking about the united states to one of the local liberals they do exist there are few in number something of an endangered local liberals they do exist there are few in number something of an endangered species that they do exist but other than to mad at it to just really they doesn't really register with stricter with the people he

peril here you know you know the united states is good good times glad. it's not on the radar if it's not on the radar so let's you know you wrote it you know you can enroll s.s.a. . now to send to spain they want to spend a while now it's called the collapse gap and that's when we 1st were introduced here well now it's called the collapse gap and that's when we 1st were introduced to your work and it was circulated wadley here here in the not in ins and in economics like circles. and a lot of the things you predicted at that time have come to pass and a lot of the things you predicted at that time have come to pass and so i want to get your insight into this more thoroughly so what's at the root so i want to get your insight into this more thoroughly so what's at the root of this neo mccarthy

a steria in your view in in america of this neo mccarthy a steria in your view in in america is it a symptom of the collapse that you saw coming more than a decade ago in your a is it a symptom of the collapse that you saw coming more than a decade ago in your essay the collapse gap why have the american liberal elite abandoned us say the collapse gap why have the american liberal elite abandoned all reason the parent lee dimitry. well it's because all reason the parent lee dimitri . well it's because they have nothing to offer they really don't have any tricks left they basically have nothing to offer they really don't have any tricks left they basically have to admit that everything they've tried has failed have to admit that everything they've tried has failed and admit that you know there are

a couple of nations that are ascendant and russia and admit that you know there are a couple of nations that are ascendant and russia's one of them china is the other one so these is thing to do is to fit as one of them china is the other one so these is thing to do is to vilify them now with russia it's basically a lot of previous abilify them now with russia it's basically a lot of previous and best you know hundreds of. hollywood movies that's you know hundreds of. hollywood movies that demonize russia. thousands of hours of cable to demonize russia. thousands of hours of cable television russia becomes blamed for all sorts of things so television russia becomes blamed for all sorts of things so. russia is the prime candidate for

demonization it's very difficult to russia is the prime candidate for demonization it's very difficult to do the same thing to china because that would be considered racist whereas russians back to the same thing to china because that would be considered racist whereas russians pass for white people so russia's state the obvious target but it's sort of chess for white people so russia state the obvious target but it's sort of shadow boxing because they are really hitting russia they're pretty much like bunching at 0 boxing because they are really hitting russia there. pretty much like watching each other over russia that's what it looks like from here you know and i think that there's approach other over russia that's what it looks like from here you know and i think that there's a point there you know the social justice warriors in the us the hollywood there you know these social justice warriors in the u.s.

the hollywood liberal types whenever there is a problem they actually liberal types whenever there is a problem they axiomatically just point at russia as the source of the problem and it seem out of glee just point at russia as the source of the problem and it just strikes anyone who's got any sense of history or any conscious at all just strikes anyone who's got any sense of history or any conscious at all that just naked bigotry just naked bigotry and but they but that just naked bigotry just naked bigotry and but they but and these are coming from the social justice warriors to you know are going to eat falafel in our art and these are coming from the social justice warriors to you know are going to eat falafel in our tofu sandwiches and drive a prius but i don't see many problem with just tofu sandwiches and drive a prius but i don't see many problem with just categorically castigating russians

in this very almost border out of couric li castigating russians in this very almost bordering on the hysteria anti-semitic hysteria we see this rip and bring on the hysteria anti-semitic hysteria we see this rip and bigotry that's exactly the same but the inadvertent hilarity of it is that bigotry that's exactly the same but the inadvertent hilarity of it is that people who are preaching tolerance for you know range both genders the people who are preaching tolerance for. you know range both genders and. you aren't allowed them to to call them illegal aliens anymore what and. you aren't allowed them to to call them illegal aliens anymore whatever you're allowed to call them now you know they're all. in favor because you're allowed to call them now you know they're all. in favor of inclusion and at the

same time they're the most intolerant people in the world when inclusion and at the same time they're the most intolerant people in the world when it comes to russia. it is extremely it's hardly a comparable are and they don't see and they don't want to see me they didn't go to a concert i wonder how that works or how i think works ali thanks for giving my knowledge and speaker to gaza's political convenience and because it's political convenience let's talk about spousal militants time out to make about he cannot run across you think kids are selling the allers run but should i go selling dollars and buying gold all at the current rate olson that will be either a thought or at the current raj rates holder center of will be the go full or little denomination x. holder of gold within the next few months behind only these few. and when it's going to be here do i mean it's a 3 and many what's going on here dimitri well russia has sold its u.s.

debt holdings. well russia has sold its u.s. debt holdings it is buying gold but it's also a major gold producer so mostly it's buying what it made us buying gold but it's also a major gold producer so mostly it's buying what it makes it's supporting its domestic production of gold production now that. it's supporting its domestic production of gold production now in terms of its being number 3 i don't even know if that's that's true anymore because we don't know how much arms if it's being number 3 i don't even know if that's that's true anymore. because we don't know how much gold the united states has left because any time anybody asks them for their gut gold the united states has left because any time anybody asks them for their gold back from the united states that they have on deposit in the united states hold back from the united states that they have on deposit in the united states the answer

was no sorry sometimes they got a little bit the answer was no sorry sometimes they got a little bit of gold back sometimes it was the wrong gold it wasn't the gold that was put on the gold back sometimes it was the wrong gold it wasn't the gold that was put on deposit to begin with germany asked for its gold 'd back got a little bit back at a possibly begin with germany asked for its gold back got a little bit back and then eventually just quietly gave up trying to repatriate its gold. there's a good turn then eventually just quietly gave up trying to repatriate its gold. there's a good chance that the u.s.'s sold that gold holdings off to china just to keep china for chance that the u.s.'s sold that gold holdings off to china just to keep china from dumping its debt which would just completely destroy the united states financially and dumping its debt which would just completely destroy the united states financially and so russia could very well be number one in terms of gold

holdings but what at me what that means as a russia could very well be number one in terms of gold holdings but what at me what that means this that russia will be able to pull off what it's been trying to pull off which is trade this that russia will be able to pull off what it's been trying to pull off which is trade with countries around the world using their own currencies wild wild with backing to transcode actions country with with face around the world both get teased based on his gold think old reserves their own currencies while while backing the transactions with with guarantees based. gold gold reserves they're well on their way to being able to achieve that i think right so the they're well on their way to being able to achieve that i think right so the dollar as world reserve currency is seemingly having the day that dollar as world reserve currency is seemingly having it the days are numbered and we've got

countries like russia and china and others this are numbered and we've got countries like russia and china and others deciding to drop out of the dollar and move on that that's certainly siding to drop out of the dollar and move on that that's certainly a sea change in the global economy now it we know you mention china a little bit it's a sea change in the global economy now it we know you mention china a little bit here there seems to be a growing awareness in the u.s. now here there seems to be a growing awareness in the u.s. now. about china is swelling paranoia. about china is swelling paranoia at this at this time. and you know at this at this time. and you know.

from an economic perspective what i see would be from an economic perspective what i see would be a legitimate reason to to kind of feel her giant the chinese a legitimate reason to to kind of feed her giant the chinese economy as relates to the u.s. economy i mean they're building something over there is a con to me as relates to the u.s. economy i mean they're building something over there i'm not sure the u.s. quite understands what's happening what do you see i'm not sure the u.s. quite understands what's happening what do you see. well china has the most successful economic model in the world well china has the most successful economic model in the world ever the transition that has occurred in china to propel it from ever the transition that has occurred in china to propel it from basically an

economic backwater 2nd little agrarian economy sickly an economic backwater 2nd little agrarian economy to the world's number one economy i would think surpassing did i mean to the world's number one economy i would think surpassing the united states in 50 years it's been an absolutely remarkable state and it states in 50 years it's been an absolutely remarkable state and a system that they put in place it's not communism it's not anything that karl marx and the system that they put in place it's not communism it's not anything that karl marx or his followers could have possibly imagined you know mother tongue was a follower his followers could have possibly imagined you know mother joan was a follower a fan of peter crockett who was a socialist anarchist or a fan of peter crockett who was a socialist anarchist. what i think the chinese model actually is if stalin isn't

to point out what i think the chinese model actually is if stalin has a 2.0 with what a lot of bugs fixed and a lot of patches you know with with a lot of bugs fixed and a lot of patches. it was also very successful model in the soviet union while stalin was alive and it was also very successful model in the soviet union while stalin was alive double digit growth every year just a remarkable double digit growth every year just a remarkable. all achievements in terms of in terms of economic performance but then achievement in terms of in terms of economic performance but then after stalin died christopher came to power and pretty much wrecked after stalin died christopher came to power and pretty much wrecked the whole thing including the

relationship with china but now russia has also based the whole thing including the relationship with china but now russia is also bracing as sort of stalin as a 2.0. and it's a have sort of stalin has a $2.00. and it's a very solid mix of large state owned enterprises a very solid mix of large state owned enterprises and a large mix of private companies as well as a large mix of private companies as well keeps they all the guard under control under political control keeps they all the guard under control under political control. and actually manages to to manage public affairs. and actually manages to to manage public affairs so that the common good is

sublevel served. so that the common good is sublevel served china stands to eradicate poverty in another couple of years russia has china stands to eradicate poverty in another couple of years russia has made strides in that direction as well so this is a model that works made strides in that direction as well so this is a model that works and the united states and the collective west don't have anything at all to offer and the united states and the collective west don't have anything at all to offer. that is like that that is equally affected and said there cringing and that is like that that is equally affected and so there cringing and they're fearful. you know that they want to somehow escape their fearful. you know that they want to somehow escape their predicament it's basically having

nothing to offer right so predicament it's basically having nothing to offer right so stalin ism 2.0 it doesn't sound like a great branding exercise stalin ism 2.0 it doesn't sound like a great branding exercise for china or you know this size for china or you know this is. let's dig into this a little bit so you know you had a. let's dig into this a little bit so you know you have china the rise to power is from out of china the rise to power is from. the very it's a strong armed rise to power. the very it's a strong armed rise to power that this is a very very controlled society this is

a society with a very that this is a very very controlled society this is a society with very few free speech rights very few rights i and few free speech rights very few rights i and they are emerging it becoming a dominant cult economy in they are emerging it becoming a dominant cult economy in the world and the us of course going back 5060 year world and the us of course going back 5060 years we had a world war ok and the u.s. came out of that where's the we had a world war ok and the u.s. came out of that war with its model of free speech and bill of war with its model of free speech of bill of rights etc becoming

a global standard so let me ask you this the rights etc becoming a global standard so let me ask you this the the the future if it's purely economic the the the future if it's purely economic would favor the strong hand some might call would favor the strong hand some might call the dead hand of of an autocracy but of the dead hand. of an autocracy but so is you know is the western model is the u.s. so is you know is the western model is the u.s. model dead completely. or will they're all dead completely. or will there be a pushback so in other words you know you put me in

a position where i'm to be pushed back so in other words you know you put me in a position where i'm going to have to push back and say that the the u.s. model. going to have to push back and say that the the u.s. model. could could could be offer some some. could could could be offer some some. you know what what are your thoughts well i don't know i see the united states as the most you know what what are your thoughts well i don't know i see the united states as the most you know corrupt country in the world so corrupt that they've legalized corruption it's called you know corrupt country in the world so corrupt that they've legalized corruption it's called lobbying and you know china and russia have 6 a lobbying and you know china and russia have successfully combat corruption so

that they're quite effective at this point. combat corruption so that they're quite effective at this point. russia went through a period of time where they were actually executed russia went through a period of time where they were actually executing thousands of corrupt officials every year but that has stopped there they've stopped accepting thousands of corrupt officials every year but that has stopped there they've stopped executing corrupt officials why because corrupt officials are dead they don't exist anymore getting corrupt officials why. because corrupt officials are debt they don't exist anymore. now whether their system is liberal or not as it is cite the point now whether their system is liberal or not as it decide the point because nobody is going to dictate their terms to china or to russia for that because nobody is going to dictate their terms to china or to russia for that matter from that point of

view western liberalism is just completely dead everybody in the world every sovereign nation in the world from now on is going to set their own standards for whatever from that point of view western liberalism is just completely dead everybody in the world every sovereign nation in the world from now on is going to set their own standards for what they will tolerate and what they want and the united states and other western countries will tolerate and what they want and the united states and other western countries will have absolutely no say. right so i guess it comes down to this will have absolutely no say. right so i guess it comes down to really a discussion of centralization vs decentralization and so far really a discussion of centralization vs decentralization and so far decentralization has been the winning strategy but let's cut off their cars are out of town centralisation has been the winning strategy but let's cut off their cars are out

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