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this month, the senate armed services committee hearing that defending against inspector general, now has 50 open and criminal cases related to potential misuse of ukraine funding is my understanding the work that we've done. my staff. we have spent $300000000000.00 since 2014 in ukraine. right now we're, we're printing our borrowing $80000.00 per 2nd. 4.6000000 a minute. we can't sustain that much longer. we gotta find best way to spend our money. the d o d inspector general, i said that there's 50 criminal investigations going on right now for money sent to ukraine by one of the most corrupt countries in the world. collect us specifically as mentioned, the patriot missile systems. and they seem to be the very top of his weapons wish list. whole is present on very due to said recently that he just can't give pollings patriot missile systems to kids because only needs them over there. and
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they're owned and operated in poland by the pentagon. so you kind of kick the can down the road to the us and said, you know, maybe just go talk to washington about it. and washington probably does. why have that discussion? so i guess it the fact that he's even bringing this art music. he has been hitting a hole in or it's patriot stash, and poland does not seem to want to hand over. it's good stuff. it's best stuff just to get blown up. just a hand me down junk that the you is giving its members dates, light, pole, and free money to replace with shiny new weapons exchange for russia. i guess you say taking care of the need any need to recycle it in a climate friendly manner. but aren't you to companies where you can get for the dangers of all the stories? well, following thanks for watching. i'll see you again the,
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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross cut bullhorn john peter lavelle. here we just got some real news. i ran, has retaliated, is the us getting ready for a wider war and how many wars is the biting administration planning on fighting? how many can it when to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess george, send me while we in budapest, he's a pod cast. read the goggle, which can be found on youtube and locals, and america, cash. we have martin j e as an award. winning journalist and commentator, gentleman cross stock role is in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start out as usual with george in budapest. well, george,
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you and i've talked about it so much on this program and on our podcast as well we, we like everyone else was waiting for you around to react to the april 1st bombing of its consulate in damascus. well, it is happened. it's about 331 different types of projectiles. israel claims they've destroyed almost all of them, minor damage, but that's their version of the story. ran says it was an overwhelming success we would if we wouldn't have expected differently from both parties. what does this all mean? because really what it gets down to is that all the discussion now is not about the genocide, but will or israel react in kind or escalate your thoughts. george? where is the city right? them is the, that's the is now the discussion because, um, the united states. and this is, i think, a surprise of all of this the united states, united king in france,
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joined israel in, in fighting office, a drone in the miss, i'll attack, that's a very explicit committee. but yes, and that is a, a surprise. and no, having made this a commitment, it seems as if the united states, so far as we can believe, the media posts the united states is now pressing israel, not to retaliate and kind not to be provoked into uh, into launching an attack against the wrong. well, that's a hopeless in depth i is that isn't just good to say what all right, well, enough is enough. well, we'll go there today, which is iran that's around this position, which is, well, we regard this affair is now over, but is read is going to say no, this is not over a, this is just the beginning. so at this stage, i mean is the why the united states and said, well, we don't want lives in the yahoo to do this. and if not,
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then the yahoo does attack iran. we will not join him. well, that's not really, you know, within the american jurisdiction because it is, well, it does attack iran, then, you know, all bets are off. i mean, it's like you, you know, united states isn't going to be able to say, well, we, we, we didn't have anything to do with it because you've already made this commitment. you already helped israel. and what was, after all, a retaliatory strike with israel, stop at the whole thing. you're on the retaliate that the united states, britain and france, you know, i joined israel is sliding off this retaliation. well, you are now. bob is still the conflict. exactly. iron clad commitment during and now it's going to a i am glad commitment afterwards. you know, martin is very interesting. if you look at the reaction in western capital's, um, uh, there is no condemnation even at the united nations security council. but israel did
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in, in the bombing the uranian consul, it in damascus. but now they're coming out in lock step, saying this is out of self defense. but it's, it's really quite a whimsical, isn't it? is that it ran, did it be, did it's action in self defense against an action taken against it? the half the story is not reported. yeah, certainly. and that's very, very typical. so what's the major british made especially, is that we haven't got some notes that we haven't got the correct perspective. so john was writing the narrative, which is really what you know that doing simply to please the most of the in tell us of this isn't the government in the state in germany just in the last few days a conference happened supposedly hosted by young. this very focus from the greek funding from finance minister was canceled by the government. please just shut it down completely. you know, i believe you will not have debate. you will not talk well martin,
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it's really interesting. it was pointed out to me that if that conference had occurred, we never would have heard about it. but because it was shut down, we've all heard about. this is the, the name getting negative returns keep going. yeah. it's, it's stupid. i mean, the classic way of promising a book is going to find, you know, and is the same with media. so now they've got more, you know, and the, the palestinian academic from, from alaska couldn't actually fly in and give his space. he was threatened also with even putting online. so this gives you an idea of just how, how flesh as we become we all know, especially societies and the thing that we claim it to fold in a 2nd level now is devouring. what was the sun? this is partly, you know, why you have a situation where by iran can do what it did over the weekend and it doesn't get reported that quickly. and it gets important in a certain way, which presumably will promote these right? is us door says to i'm take it to the next level. you know, what's interesting, what's really interesting about what happened over the weekend was it,
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it was very message. it was very precise and i think it was very small. but the rightness to do exactly that. they sent over 300 tribes. they knew most of those trends to be intercepted. they knew the minimum casualties. but you know, it must a little miss a little miss, you know, the main one the way we haven't said it yet, but that was the 1st time it ran was attacked. is really bad news. even you didn't think that was possible. yeah, you said over the last year they probably you saw the proxies with get involved, but actually i run so. so that's something for these ladies to really think about, you know, that. okay, next time we decide to hit in radians in syria. we know what to expect or perhaps was perhaps it would be not $300.00 trends, but $600.00. but the point is, is they wouldn't have been able to defend themselves if it wasn't for the americans, the british, and even the jordanians, you know. and then another mist busted. you know, joe thing, children's king abdullah opened up the space for his range at some british already f just into set these trends. so they would love lessons love and i think it is
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around wanted to deliver a message very clearly. it really succeeded. i think it was a moral victory for his right. unless for israel, because this role isn't going to remember less of this role is going to look at now how it covered time, the 8. and that will be the breaking point of the west. you say the cost on agreement. so the, i think, i think the bible's mind very clear, but he won't go further. if israel goes for you know, now where would, is real hit, you know, right. what is good? what is to stop? these really is what is, what is what they're getting. a green line here. you know, church, it's interesting. we have a some interesting cemetery here. you said in your answer interrupted martin. you know, the, the main, the headline story is that it ran attacked israel in response, least on this program response to the attack on its embassy. but you had a missiles coming in from iraq 11 on the m. and you've already mentioned how the u, the u. k and france and others have helped israel. we're getting symmetry here.
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this is something we all have talked about for weeks and weeks now. is that the, the, the axis of resistance is real. go ahead, george. well, it certainly is a real look, but the question is then, where do you take this? how far do you want to take this? because when you're dealing with israel, when you're dealing with a pilot, that isn't restrained by the normal constrains that bind other powers. so when, when does it get that? apparently, i mean, like again, we're only going by medium because apparently the binding has on, has, has told lives in the avo. hey, you want take the wind. don't take it any further. um, well let's say he did say this, um, that doesn't bind this in the yahoo in any way. it's full. and um, and we know,
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you know, and there's a long history of this. that is royal has one to 2 embroiled, the united states and a war with iran for many, many years. and this has been going on on going thing take leave. and this prime minister of i is really exactly in the that's in the, our, in the policy was always, oh, we're going to hit the wrong, the nuclear facilities. we're going to hit the run the new bip as soon as knowing that if you're wrong, retaliates, then somehow the united states gets sucked into the war. well, chances are, that's what's gonna happen now, is there a will hit iran's nuclear facilities? your own will doubtless retaliate. it's going to be hot. so the united states, the stay out of this war will be no doubt bite in the blink. i'm sorry, no, no, no, we don't want any escalation when i'm going to get involved. you know, we're not about it to accomplish. it's going to going hot. once you've made this initial commitment, going to be hospice the out. george martin the the 1st question i wrote down for this program in my notes and i'll pitch it to martin right now. the good, the last program you said i always give the good questions of george. i'll give
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a good one to you now. who's controlling the narrative? martin? yeah, that's, that is a very good question. um, who isn't the dog wagging the tail, wagging the tail all the time is like an adult, i think, and the next 24 hours or 48 hours, we'll see, we'll see what the biden is able to actually show how i think most of america is and how much israel needs america and breast some of the few other key allies on that side. but i don't agree with george. i don't think these writing these off. is that stupid? i don't think them go that far to pick nuclear installations inside iran. i think that was able to us and they did their scientists. i mean the lighting survive to, i mean, i don't see how there are i think the, let me finish it. it's only limited now that limited unlimited. go ahead and let me make my point. i think whether it will fit where they, if they do want to escalate it further and make that point. but i think they'll do
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is they'll go for it right. and soldiers in syria, which there are many, you know, the last 2 or 3 years, a lot of them, every radian ministry installations been built, which isn't reported so much of an arrangement. i mean, this is one and see what you're writing. i think that will be and it will be strikes and you know that they don't want to make that point that way. now at that point, when we get to that point, then we have a real tipping point because then london and washington will have to decide, you know, we need some common sense here. you know, is, is by doing, really going to store an election campaign with a, with a, with the, with a 3rd war. you know, a opening up. i mean, it just seems not so, you know, we, we never been this far. we know this is new ground, the americans, no american president was ever really wanting to take on around, you know, war and if, what, edging towards the, you know, this and which seemed suicide full for the button administration. and from the west in general. you know, i mean the a and the other. all the other thing which i wanted to make point of thought is that there must be people in the minutes, in israel, or close to nothing. you know who,
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which are telling him about the practicalities of having a side front, you know, can we really take only run when we go gossip of this boiling point? we're about to go in to rough. uh, you know, if we, if we took the escalation to the next to the next level and started looking at around as an enemy, that would mean husband, it would stop hitting us on the northern border as well. and the big fear list have been talking about some months now. is that hezbollah, this time? i suppose 2006, this time we'll go in for land invasion of a northern strip on this. well that's, that's part of the defense. that's paul, this trusty, which is probably the wisc kept secret in the middle east. yes, i always at the end of the day is that they have their, their high card. it's called the united states. and given the rhetoric coming on to be an ad sites, they have not put themselves into a position where they can not say no to israel. they can say no to a genocide. they won't say no to a war. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here ready to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some we'll need to stay with our to
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the and the world's largest democracy votes. the rest of the planet watches in an emerging multi polar world. india's voice matters. but who will be the power behind watches, almost 1000000000 people decide and billions more, react, the russian states. never as one of the most sense community best. most all sense and up the in the $65.00 to $5.00 and speed. what else calls question about this. even though we will
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then in the european union, the kremlin media machine, the state on the rush to day and split the ortiz full, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the fitness center for question, did you even closer to the or the welcome back to cross cells, boulevard design, peter labelle here. we just got some real news. george, let me go to you. one of the 1st things that came out of the bite in ministration, which i think so for most people, western audiences they wouldn't pick up on it. but i certainly did a bite and wants to contact his g 7 counter parts. again, this is the post colonial masters,
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making decisions about them. it's like sikes pico all over again here. i'm sure they're not aware of it. there. they have no sense of irony about their um, the way the how they see the world. the world sees them in a very specific way. these old, colonial bowers, they gonna come in and intervene again. it's amazing, george. that's a very good question. um, because the j 7 is a very narrow group of uh, countries. um, i think of pretty much all of them are all members of nato. think 6 of them with the exception of the japan. japan is essentially kind of a satellite state of the united states, at least as far as foreign policy is concerned. and it's in a very interesting binding this. the initial response is, oh, well, we're going to go to the, the g 7, download all of our allies. and that somehow this helps in any way because of who you're dealing with the countries that are not allies of the united states. and
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they are aligned with other countries that are also not allies of the united states . so it's a very narrow uh, focus. and um, you know, obviously the normal place you had to go is a little, have a meeting at the un security council. but that was in the united states as the initial uh, response. and if i click on the, you know, the, the us like your can also the other than that you make the usual combinations of the iran and suggest that iran was acting as the address. oh, which is what the americans and he's saying which are really in a bab up of thing with the origin soon i was saying that and no doubt they gonna spout this thing. i think at the un security council meeting. but what is a really interesting here is that by doing this, essentially the united states is escalating things to try. i mean, that's a bit precise. if you go to this narrow group, this narrow a bunch of states that are closely aligned with the united that always support us
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foreign policy. it never criticize us both as you're essentially escalate to because you are essentially the say that hey, we are all with israel. we are all committed to israel and whatever happens next, we have israel's backs. well, that's an escalation as well. you know, martin, you already brought it up here, but, you know, in an election year, joe biden, who is not doing bit, were very well in the polls. but as i always say to our audience, here's an maybe summer time. i'll start looking at some of the holes more seriously . but, you know, you have under a biden's watch, you have the catastrophic withdrawal from afghanistan. those images from couple are still with us. here. we have the, the, the proxy war and ukraine award that never should have happened in the 1st place. and obviously the genocide going on and gaza, there is, and stationing troops in taiwan. of course they ran into the perennial enemy here and has blow they got in on the act over the weekend as well. so how many wars can
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bite and um, um give attention to. okay. and as i said in my introduction, how many can a, when, what you have, how many can you mess up? you know, it's very a bit better. you phrased it better than i did. yeah. if you just put, if you just run off the list even before him, you know, going back to the 2nd one. well, i mean, they'll just tons of examples where america with this west and button is often britain, you know, just plowed into countries. um, just got involved in internal conflict and messed up. i left just a, a trailer kind of clemency behind. so you know, just more recently, you know, you, you mentioned your crime. i'm now garza and, and it's i think the american public when they look at it, i remember buttons administration, but when they look back at it and they're reflect on it. i'm some of the more no less leading media to these kind of a video montage in the last few weeks. selections of, of biden's from policy footprint. and you can, you have that classic,
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like conic. you know, i'm footage of thousands of people running along with the, the s trip a couple apple with that sees one search and i think it was, you know, these images people, people will start to the current understand foreign policies. yeah, we have is blue color, look in america, but they can't understand. you know, how constantly there was this repetitive same, went by the military. industrial complex makes a huge amount of money. a politician seem to be very happy in oral driving around a new cause and buying glitches. and yet, food of the supermarkets getting more expensive gas front gas pump prices are coming up. you know, more americans are losing the homes. people will start to understand the fund minutes realized for them for on policy is just basically does offices are for the country? well, i, you know, i have to push back on that a little bit judge because the, the, the, the, we're all veterans of how this propaganda machine works me of yeah, well, prices are up because it ran ok because it ran it's about threatening is real. okay
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. it's a mouse is fault, okay. they, they never take responsibility for their own actions. it's always of course, and of course rush is always at fault for whatever you want in the climate change may be even. so, um, but, you know, i think really to the point here, george, is it with all of the complex that i mentioned that went in with martin had to say here is the united states vulnerable. and it is the, is the west vulnerable? because if there seems to be some kind of tipping point going on here now, is it, you know, this is there, there's a swarming effect or trying to get the, the, i mean, you got to feel the profit bad for the zelinski crowd because everybody's going to be just about them because 1st order of business and congress, you know what it's going to be on monday morning. george support for israel. go ahead. but what was right say that it's, it is easy to say, oh yeah. so go, go back to 1945, it's old. you know, us incompetent u. s. foreign policy, but there have been errors since 1945 in which the us exuded competence,
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the us achieved foreign policy goals. i mean, you know, the boss complex treaties was signed with above by the united states. you know, a boss network of agreements sign in by the united states. i mean, we'll help set the helsinki process that helps make it my number of we talked about the, the nixon era. and we talked about these, you know, again, one major agreement officer and all the, and these work foreign policy accomplishments. now, something has gone wrong in recent decades, wasn't meant to say, hey, the influence of the neo cons. but because what we have now is the united states kind of reacting from one crisis to another, getting itself involved in one crisis, offering another without any overarching vision. of what it's trying to achieve because it's somehow, well, you know, we, we, we, we have to support the landscape as opposed to grant. we have to have these rails
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back, but at no point does the united states think, well, what is, what is the united states go? what does the united states trying to achieve? what, what, what is the, you know, what, how does the united states envisage the world in the next 1015 years? and that's what least what you had back, you know, 3040 years ago when at least you had a, you know, a president who was thinking in those terms. so i think there's been a drastic decline in us foreign policy leadership. and the both of us, as of all of this is by the payment was they get all hopelessly incompetent. is head filled with some illogical platitudes. they never really understood the go back to the 19th ages. and i think now you listen to these things, you know, we had the, the bite and meeting with the japanese prime minister and the, with the philippines. the problem is that the best that's directed at the china, we got the whole does the landscaping ongoing, still demanding that the more of them will be sent to your grades and now we've got
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this. so it's a, you know, a past, you know, complex of, um, issues and the access has no idea what to do other than go continue down this path . or was it certainly not to entertain ideas of diplomacy as george rightly pointed out. okay. so the, the great for him, the great struggle as we all 3 were coming up was the cold war and it was managed, okay, it was manage, we avoided war. but more on, i'm very cynical about this. and of course, you know, i've looked at the major headlines before we started here. it is very pro israel. what, what, what else would you expect from western media? but it seems to me, it's more of a cover. i think they've very little coverage and will of the, almost none in western media is what's going on in the west bank. it is targeted for risk. what is going on right there to the, the, the, the, um, the, the destruction of the land and people of guys, it continues unabated. but we're not talking about it. okay?
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and i think this is all very intentional. it was israel that started the probably cation by attacking the the consulate in damascus. and that's exactly why i ask you that question. who was controlling the narrative? i think they are. go ahead martin. we're taking a rise of the boat and was that's um, yeah. and so exactly, exactly, the settlers in the west bank taking advantage of this window to doing whatever risk, costly ex. um they think that justified doing as close as not getting a pull to the other thing is not getting reported about westbank is that it's becoming completely lotus. but the these what are your thoughts? is that now just losing control completely was that correct downs. with that that gives us the nation to the kidnappings and legal arrests. you know, it's off the scale now. what sort of off the scale, which is also not being reported is the number of iranian um, is which of being pumped into the west bank. so this is something else which is bubbling in the background. you have now, you know,
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an insurgency in the making. iran is using its influence in the region to continue to use the georgia to fit by roads a lot of legal ops, more homes. so that's another cool drugs that we would expect to stop bubbling up, you know, in the future. but you know, i'm, i think we're, we're, we're, we're looking at a, a catastrophe now on a level that we've never really been able to understand to, to, to, to, to, to go back to george's point. yeah. the americans might have a lot of headway in the 60 seventy's and perhaps eighty's when they were super. but when they were the sole superpower, you know, we are a super part of that science and that i mention, you can make mistakes because everybody's, it gives you, everybody says the, that's america. you know, you can pull out of them as a right of of it now. and then one says yeah, okay, so, so what, you know, america is big enough to carry on with it. so you know, this because, um callous. well i, i think name is generally i think towards be that they really were there mishaps i
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have occurred and let you got like a 40 seconds here is that they abuse the unit polar moment and that moment is closed. go ahead george. i think so. and i think that i'm back in the 6th and 7th is a, it is, they was a rival which was a piece of military rival, which was the, the soviet union. and the united states, respect of the united states of bill pay. what kind of share of a planet with them, we cannot get into a, in a dangerous escalation with them this, since the uni pulled a moment, you know, i say, says we, you know, we won the cold war, we dissolved the winnings. and we're going to take the winnings from with us. and even though you know all the others are suggesting that way and we'll take it, we'll take the winnings and, and this is how they use their, their victory and pirate can make 3. i would say that's all the time we have gentlemen when a think, my guessing marrow cash and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. are to see you next time. remember profits,
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to see about purpose passed through so the teachers found all the, instead of making accusations the western come through shooting, appreciate these led me through public conference, we strain and responsible actions towards disability and safety. and the region. iran says the west should be praising its restraint and leaving its own inaction. this concerns amounting to all the evils and brought a walk erupting in the middle east. also ahead the idea of renew the slides on guys are following one night of relative calm fire it gets played. policy is returning to the homes of the 10 plays know

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