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take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify. it will confuse who really wants a better world, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images present? it is. but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered? i'm theater live out. iran's retaliatory strike of israel is
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a game changer. a new red line has been established. thread no longer will outsource its confrontation with israel. meanwhile, the gaza genocide continues the cross knocking escalation. i'm joined by my guest, eric welburn in toronto. he is a writer journal as an author of the canada. israel next is in bay road. we have they look hard to him. she is a co founder of mid east wire. com. and in what talk to you. we cross the steven. so who in the he is an award winning journalist and chief editor of mid east discourse are across side groves and effects. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate late. well, let me go to you. first thing they rotate, remind production i called this a game changer and new red lines have been established. do you agree with that? well, it's always basically
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a new line that's being pushed. the deadline has been established long time ago. there's the balance of better and better as a forward in this region that everybody tries to test every now and then and, but then you basically attacks that happens and that is the nation. everybody knows what the other side, the scope of. i mean, at the end of the day, some people consider that and see it as it goes by, by the radiance. however, if you look at it closely, it is managed to hit tool is very limited to the base as well on north 1st fine, and one basically in the called nova team and the, the one closest to the more no. so the idea is that everything else that they used was just a decor and they actually have the goals. there's, there is no, no what the, what, so what does that state? they might take it that much further just to say, face at one point or another or basically because the who wants to a safe is height as they say, by kidding, that's weird because we don't know what he's going to go to try it. and people are going to send him a life, so you would have ones are being drawn all the time. the thing is, the escalation is the thing that we see basic get into using well,
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and i mean i go and eric, i mean do, do we have a new balance of deterrence right now because the western media is down playing the, or in radian strike. but if you look at a book and people that have a more honest view point, i mean this is quite catastrophic for israel is the 1st time that is real experience, something like that. so there is there, is there a new balance, a deterrence in the region to lose the if you the richard scott richard made the very good guy tell the point that his brother has actually expanded its borders. it's controlling. now north israel in north israel is uh, in it is uh and indefensible. and uh, i don't think those settlers will ever be able to go back. so there's one aspect and also he ran his expanded it sporty, straight to israel. it's showing that it is capable of reaching the end,
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the key israel. it's, i'm in new mexico and then a couple entered in the neighbor. so it is really is no longer so it's completely surrounded now and it's gonna be in india ran is part of that. uh neighborhood. it's, it's almost like, uh, iran's announced itself is admitted that an integral part of the new middle east. yeah. and it's, i'm and it's a neighbor you can't ignore. okay, i get what you can ignore and at your peril. let's put it that way. stephen. oh, so if we can go back to the, the, all of these events, you know, i don't like to use october 7th as a beginning of something. it is very much on the part of the historical process that we've seen. 75 years of design is and but if we do take october 7th, what is real achieved? it has it's lost in, in gaza, is killed and tens and tens of thousands of defenseless people,
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mostly women and children. and as eric has pointed out, so uh, is really citizens in the north of israel cannot return. and we have the, what's going on in the west bank. i mean, israel is in it has, it has had a string of failures here. steven. yes, that is through the israel's late play. not only actually and this works, it's been starting to failure since the or 2006 was sell stuff on. his ballade that's was a big failure at the war and got stuff with the 1st floor and goes 10007. i think also it was a failure. 2014 was a failure. and also in 20 to 2020 also was a failure. now this one is a big failure. it for 6 months. israel has been using all kind of weapons bombing from land guarantee. just they killed 40000 people, but it's not fair to do their hostages. they did not to stop the missiles from good
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. the missiles are still going on from the north, east to west all over the leaders of the, of the, of the assembly gate. i'm some us are still in power. how much is still the empower, the achieve nothing to date. and this is just starting to reflect on benjamin nathaniel. and this is why we're seeing the people, the various sectors in the industry. it's up to like even jerusalem in big numbers and they are going to see more than more, more or more because they have a tube of things. and now you start to move his old people and the whole region. and the united states is the reason war. just for one thing only, and that is, you know, he doesn't want to lose his chair as prime minister. well i, i also think, i mean, i'm just neither here nor there. if it's about netanyahu, it's about design is project and design is project has a meeting, it's a lot of barriers right now and a lot of push back your way. like what,
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what does the most interesting things about israel's re uh, well actually, how is real and it's western allies reacted to a range of retaliation. is that it made it perfectly clear that israel cannot do this on its own. it must have the united states. it must have friends and must have the u. k. but that's a very perilous position for every we want to be. and we know that joe biden is feckless and weak, but he's essentially signing up for is real security in a very meaningful way in a very expensive way. i'll also point out that is one of the game changing elements here to go ahead and be route. it just doesn't say, i mean we've seen it. so getting the internet and talk so on this any occupation the entity. we saw the british, the american, and even the german plains workman's coming over to so basically has this really is the on some of those drones and goes ballistic missiles that were thrown or basically directed at is there any entity however you have to understand is there is it going in project?
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so all the colonialism of hits created are the ones who continue to pump and money and basically the arms to keep the surviving over there. when it comes to by then he had lost most of the woods in terms of artists and those who are against this, where that's happening. however, what he's banking on is going forward with the americans continuing to have this really is he would go through the selections and the new york on services and those basically what, what was the 4th is there it is in his society that when he came into the rescue we had to let him continue to send her that how much was the custom and the elections i hired that was basically because the father know basically waking up to be added to that. these various are trimming those. they're getting close to the news. they are committing a genocide that has been ongoing, not only for the 1st 7 months, but also for the past 75 years. and i don't think basic is in national consciousness, let alone basically the americans inside america. united states would agree to that . we've seen the pools showing a change of heart and mind towards what these read the entity is all about and what their leadership in the us are doing. well, you know, eric, it's very interesting,
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joe biden's 1st reaction, public reaction to it was the call a meeting of the g 7, which gets these people this don't see the iron now, but of course these are the former colonial powers and the powers that created the modern and middle east tier, would it be fair to say because i've been saying this that the g 7 is turning itself into the access of genocide? a long way from the 8. 0, okay sir. really uh, the item is still seeing the world through euro america, american european lens is that the world when it talks about world he, he's really just referring to the white colonial powers. so when we are, when i think of world opinion, i think of the broader world opinion very much along the line. so what we can do is talk to about that. so there isn't a new access of peaceful powers that are anti
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imperialist. so uh yeah. so 5 is still in, not in your own mindset. and another good analogy i think is israel is like a cuckoo. it's the, it's born. and now us in your feet and the parents keep speeding it endlessly until the end of the cuckoo. uh, the cuckoos life is not an easy one that often they get pushed out of the nest or they die or else killed their hopes. so we're in the in between stage now where israel is really taken on all of the energy of its parents. and it's a, it's sucking them dry. so whether this can continue indefinitely. well, it can. so i think that the best buy how, how the cuckoo finally dies. and that, that's the issue. we have to deal with know,
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you walk, you know, eric, you know, brought up the what the true international community and real global public opinion . and it's very, very clear where that stands. again, it says the global south versus the, the, the rich north at white north, also in this case here. but, you know, i can remember very clearly when, after the, the, the iranian revolution that they being throwed loose or throwing the shot. and then the american embassy was taken by students and how rage the united states was because that's diplomatic territory, a sovereign territory, but no one in the no one in the west, even one of the debated the security council about what israel did to the diplomatic compound in damascus, i mean the whole world sees this rank composite hypocrisy of the, the array in the united states. this is the united states double standard, uh the united states was supporting the show of your on,
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at the end of the states were supporting the show. have you not even had the problem was what was the you know, but when it came to a system and a government game and the you're on that is and started is them and i'm starting a barrel of them. then they slip and then they started using the she, i to send me uh the, the, this is just send me a conflict besides making it is an error. and that is what america is. what has been pumping money and billions of dollars on for the last 3040 years uh today. uh . is there a been bombing in your area, or do you see in syria that between the officers your on has been the patient? and let me try to take a look, try to go through, don't we're saving, i'm sorry, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on escalation. stay with our team,
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the, the known in vietnam american war, the vietnam war lost its almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. nor does he have written down when you don't see it. now, what did go on empty? hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me. and the american soldiers loaded resistors mercilessly burned down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals and lee. by all right,
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did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive? yes. yes. that's the way it's too late. but you have the welcome back. the cross talk, we're all things are considered. i'm peter about your mind. you were discussing escalation, the layla i, i was very a, a gas, but not surprised by how western politicians and media reacted to this. uh, david cameron was talking about, you know, how is disproportional? well, number one, and the,
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all of the facilities that we know that were attacked were military and intelligence. and there was no loss of life. so there was an injury. they won't show us what really happened, which was really odd because they loved the show destruct, destruction all the time. and then you have, you know, this, this of a portion of it. i mean it's so amazing to me. what about what's happening in gaza? i mean, is that per portion it, i mean, even when confronted these people can not look at you in the eye and speak the truth. go ahead. it's a, it's, it's, it's sounding it's, it's actually not mine. but when it gets a little after living with that's kind of will keep patient for the longest time. so we know we know data tactics and what they do, they doing some of the task along empowers. they do the same, they victimize themselves whenever they ex phones wrong. so at the end of the day, they continue to kill. for example, they've had, they've had, they've had estimated in, you know, officials and scientists over the past decades. they can not only basically, um,
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the, the head of the eclipse to the gates, but they have also kids, scientists over the past 2 years, we've seen that they've committed atrocities inside, you know, as well. and the $13030.00 ition came, they were like, oh, we are being under attacked. well you, at the 1st, that's the 1st thing. the 2nd thing is that if you want to draw your attention to something that the colonial fathers were always come to the aid of this race, when it comes to an attack against an embassy or whatever. basically the too much the commission that is, remember the us actually effect the spanish, the too much admission and, and in a j, a need you, when defense refuse to allow the americans to use that air space to go to the bar the view, then they attacked the chinese diplomatic mission basically, and you, if i remember it was in sarajevo or like one of the so back on states and nobody says anything. it is that is there it is a thought it'd be about technician and it'd been think that's a joint of it. this but the commission and the whole world was silent about that. when did any, as we thought here, that's fine, that everybody's investor,
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all these effects that have happened against union nationals and against it really does not belong in cedar rapids. also inside the don't. suddenly the world started playing it for, for almost $3.00 to $4.00 days before that you didn't even do if it's a nation by saying, oh, there is a gums. i think this really is where it is. are that extends over here. they play with the negative. they shifted negative and nobody is buying, it's anymore. yeah. what so. okay. and plus, we do know that would be the american administration is basically lying about it. if i'm going to eric right now. um, so round gave a 72 hour notice in what they were going to do. okay. they very transparent and what they wanted to accomplish. um, like eric would be, is israel aside to been in, in the dilemma right now as we speak on how to retaliate? now we are told that the american administration doesn't want to be involved in any and is really attack on iran. i really don't buy it. okay. i mean the, the influence that the, the israel lobby has over american politicians and the media. i want allow joe
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biden to a band and the israelis, which means, you know, now we have this, we actually, you could make the argument. i certainly would that we are in the middle of the next world war because we can see how the, the dividing lines are, are happening, russia, iran, we have the access of resistance. and the united states is not going to walk away from this. and a lot of american politicians, particularly in the senate, would really welcoming and an open attack on around which would be disastrous for everyone. eric as well. yeah. but uh, is the guy pack. yes, this is its finest moment. now it's got, uh, congress, really and its cartridges, even if biden wanted to do what with getting re elected with making the great president would be to insist on this cease fire and force israel to negotiate properly. that would be, of course, a wonderful thing,
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but it is real with it with the assassin eats is. that's what it's great guys, very much like ukraine. it's a, it's at that stage and it's distorted development that it goes after terrorist attack typically. so it gets us in the leaders, kit kennedy, both kennedy's i'm, i'm convinced we're a mazda of the operations. we don't know, 911. but these huge terrorist operations really is really, is very good at this. and then that's what it's built, it's so on. so i think even let's say trump trump's kind of wishy washy on a new grain a i, he seems to be very pro israel, but he's, he doesn't like nathan, yahoo! he could to slip the could just swell. eric, i'm not going to give donald trump but a credit with him with a lot of virtue. but eric, i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to be a war president in the,
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in this scenario right here. i think he is very terrified of it because it is a stance that will everyone that's involved in it on the wrong side. the stench that they will carry for the rest of their they will be their legacy, their legacy of what they're doing right now. but steve, and if i could go back to you, um, what does the us really even have a choice right now? okay. and you can say a security commitment is iron clad and then it's not iron clad. how are they going to squared and circle the yeah, the, the united states as the sun the and the see uh yeah, for a fire funded this is really military and been helping and supporting is really military and been sending aid and all of that from the american taxpayer money. but the, the existence as system this is there a is using that some america and they have help is really just flat attack. and the
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doctors often. but the as button if there's a by the decision pulled in, jimmy. nothing else we did the scene to do, but we're not going to participate with you in the award the, by the, by them does not want to go into awards or reason war just because of benjamin that in, you know, this a, this is but this is what he does not understand the what happened on monday, go a cost over $1300000000.00. that's ultimately out of the american taxpayer money. that's, that is real pain. it. but there's really people are saying that that's the american taxpayer money and the americans. and whoever is next president, and that's what happened, but they should stop all this 8. the americans are all i have the they should, that money should because the american people look on funding wards and supporting a cycle back benjamin netanyahu, who just wants to take the whole vision of the whole world into more leeway. one of the things that really worries me here in, in lebanon here, do you think as
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a result of iran's retaliation? and we've discussed that it was a all over whelming leah, a success in terms of what it wanted to achieve. how do you, how do people in the, in lab a non feel now, is it more, more likely or less likely the, the is riley's, would attack your country. i can send you because i'm covering basically the blue line, villages, stations and soft level. and basically i also room, i don't even speak to people from o, x or flash on different agents instructions, most of the construction support that existence and level as a forcing the common enemy of this is a joke. you patient, everybody used to be members with is reduced, it's 11 in 2006. is there any aggression 11? but at the same time there are small focus infections, who basically support the vendors, which is very weird. but then again, if you look at their history, they collaborated with is really doing the occupational level. but these are insignificant in terms of numbers that have been is do expect an escalation at any
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points because they know that this kind of occupation is treacherous. they don't need an excuse to go on to escalate. however, when you open multiple strong and, and basically i gave the patient it's 6 twice before basically expanding the problem. so we have a photo for that's it. and for the time being, um, the way i see it going forward, we will be seeing an escalation because at the end of the day this is not the is really ward. again, is basically the us thing is only this is the american war against the national interest in that age. and that's why we saw the russians move them battalions to the front with the occupied single on hearts. and at the same time, it's a, it's a short forward as it's a major struggle between the on it. is there some questions about that? because of those regions and the indians. on the other hand, that's why we've seen the nature powers move this 3 gates and ships to the eastern mediterranean region over the past 7 months. that's why basically we saw an image of kind of the alliance between the excess of resistance as on both fronts in iraq
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and syria and lebanon. and even in yemen, and they are basically being supported by the ariens. that's one point to another. joshua came to the rescue to its own l, i. c, d, and said, we are going to head if the what actually ex expense more than that because the russians understand the kind of game that's being played at the moment. it's a power struggle between the americans and the restaurants and the some of the strain you eric, we administration in the, by the ministration says that it doesn't want an escalation, but are they on the driver seat? i mean, they may not want it, but they, they may have to just go along because, you know, if you're going to the administration who's going to tolerate a genocide in gaza, they're going to go along with a greater war. i mean, you know, there's a continuation and thought there, eric, the us is tied to israel. so if one goes the other goes, that's why is it really is an existential situation for her both because it's carried on now for 70 years and it's
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a future the us sees it's future through israel in the middle east and it's got to change that it's a israel is got to become a normal middle east country. somehow it's got to worry about eric eric if i for that to happen. era for that in the design is project past that come to an institute, and i know that has said so that it will happen already thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. i think it is early is the last in the last 6 months. and if that's a continual bleeding, so israel, you know, it is marching forward into the future, but it's the people are, are the keynote, the end of this whole, all the project is revealed as a parsed and that is your essential crisis. so i, i don't see this really resolving it easily. it's going to be
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a lot of hand wringing all a let me ask you the last 25 seconds. is this, the end of design is project that we witnessing it? i asked over 7, i have the space when i said this word was easier to speed up. it's a state solution or we're basically would see it. is it as a different kind of scenario? not even is it, as we know today, and i believe that to be on the interstate solution is that it would not exist as we know it today. it could be one state, it could be, it's an end of it's, we don't know, but the situation going forward is going to be completely different. ok on that note, that's all the time we have a want to think of, i guess in toronto on a route and look out, talk to you. and in the course, i want to take our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time. and remember across the rules, the, the,
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