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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . iran's retaliatory strike of israel is a game changer. a new red line has been established. thread no longer will outsource its confrontation with israel. meanwhile, the gaza genocide continues the cross talking escalation. i'm joined by my guest, eric welburn in toronto. he is

a writer journal as an author of the canada. israel next is in bay road. we have they look hard to him. she is a co founder of mid east wire dot com and, and we'll talk, you know, we cross to stephen. so who need, he is an award winning journalist and chief editor of mid east discourse or across cyprus and the fact that means he can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate lane. well, let me go to you 1st thing, be rotate. remind production i called this a game changer and new red lines have been established. do you agree with that? well, it's always basically a new line that's being pushed. the better done has been established long time ago with there's a balance of better and better support in this region that everybody tries to test every now and then and, but then you basically attacks what happens and then the nation, everybody knows what the other side, the scope of, i mean at the end of the day, some people consider that and you'd have to come by, by the radiance. however, if you look at the go see the it is minus to hit 2 is very limited to the base as well on the north plus sign and one basically in the nova team and the,

the one closest to the more no. so the idea is that everything else that they used was just a decor and they actually have the goes, there is no, no what the, what does that state. they might take it that much further just to stay safe as one point or another, or basically because the whole wants to a safe is height as they say, by kidding, that's what we're because with those what he's going to go to try it on people are going to send him a life, so you'd have the ones are being drawn all the time. the thing is, the escalation is the thing that we see basically it increasing. well, and i mean i go and eric, i mean, do we have a new balance of deterrence? right now, because the western media is down playing the or, and radian strike. but if you look at a look and people that have a more honest view point to mean this is quite catastrophic for israel is the 1st time that is real experience, something like that. so there is there, is there a new balance of deterrence in the region?

the absolutely. if you the richard scott richard made the very that got it and tell the point that his brother has actually expanded its borders. it's controlling. now north israel in north israel is uh, in it is uh and indefensible. and i don't think those settlers will ever be able to go back. so there's one aspect and also he ran his expanded it sporty, straight to israel. it's showing that it is capable of reaching anything. israel, it's, i'm in new mexico and the notable entered in the neighbor. so it is really is no longer so it's completely surrounded now and it's going to be in india ran is part of that uh, neighborhood. it's, it's almost like, uh,

iran's announced itself is i had mentioned that an integral part of the new middle east. yeah. and it's, i'm and it's a neighbor. you can't ignore. okay. i get what you can ignore and at your peril. let's put it that way. uh steven. oh so if we can go back to the b b, all of these events, you know, i don't like to use october 7th as a beginning of something. it is very much in the part of the historical process that we've seen. 75 years of design is i'm but if we do take october 7th, what is real achieved? it has it's lost in, in gaza, is killed and tens and tens of thousands of defenseless people, mostly women and children. and as eric has pointed out, so uh, is really citizens in the north of israel cannot return. and we have the, what's going on in the west bank. i mean, israel is in it has, it has had a string of failures here. steven. yes, that is through the israel's late play. not only actually and this works,

it's been starting to failure since the or 2006 was sell stuff on. his ballade that's was a big failure at the war and guys, death for the 1st floor and goes then thousands, 7, i think also it was a failure. 2014 was a failure. and also in 20 to 2020 also was a video. now this one is a big failure. it for 6 months is really been using all kind of weapons bombing from land guarantee. just they killed 40000 people, but it's not there to do their hostages. they did not to stop the missiles from the missiles are still going on from the north east to west all over the leaders of the, of the, of the some of the gate i'm some us are still in power. how i'm also still the empower the achieve nothing to date. and this is, i'm just starting to reflect on benjamin nathaniel. and this is why we're seeing the people, the various sectors in the industry. it's up to like even jerusalem in big numbers and they are going to see more than more,

more or more because they have to have buffering. and now you start to move his own people and the whole region and the united states is the reason war. just for one thing only, and that is, you know, he doesn't want to lose his chair as prime minister. well i, i also think, i mean, i'm just neither here nor there. if it's about netanyahu, it's about design as project and design is project has a meeting, it's a lot of barriers right now in a lot of push back your way. like what, what did the most interesting things about israel's re uh, well actually, how is real and it's western allies reacted to a range of retaliation. is that it made it perfectly clear that israel cannot do this on its own. it must have the united states. it must have friends and must have the u. k. but that's a very perilous position for every we want to be. and we know that joe biden is feckless and weak, but he's essentially signing up for is real security in a very meaningful way in

a very expensive way. i'll also point out that is one of the game changing elements here to go ahead and be route. yes, it doesn't say, i mean we've seen it. so getting the thoughts on this, any opposition? the entity we saw, the british, the american and even the german plains working is coming over just to basically and head is reduce the on some of those drones and goes ballistic missiles that were thrown or basically directed at is there a new entity? however, the have to understand is there is a colonial project. so all the colonial of hits created are the ones who continued to pump and money and basically the arms to keep the surviving over there. when it comes to by then you have lost most of the votes in terms of earnings and those who are give the swear that's happening. however, what he's banking on is going forward with americans continuing to have this really is he would go through these elections and the new york on services and those basically what's that, what was afford the is there it is in his society that when he came into the rescue

we had to let him continue to send to that. how much was this helped him in the elections i hired that was basically because the father know basically waking up to be added to that is a, is our terminals. they're getting close to news. they are committing a genocide that has been ongoing, not only for the past 7 months, but also for the past 75 years. and i don't think basic is in national consciousness, let alone basically the americans inside america, the united states would agree to that. we've seen the cause showing a change of heart and mind towards what is read entity is all about. and what there's neither ship in the us or the we. well, you know, eric is very interested in jo biden's 1st reaction. public reaction to it was the call a meeting of the g 7, which i guess these people just don't see the iron, you know, but of course, these are the former colonial powers and the powers that created the modern and middle east. here. would it be fair to say, because i've been saying this, that the g 7 is turning itself into the access of genocide? uh, along with an ego. okay, sir. really, uh the,

the finding is still seeing the world through euro, american, american european lens is that the world when it talks about worlds, he is really just referring to the white colonial powers. so when we are, when i think of world opinion, i think our broader world opinion very much along the line. so what we can do is talk to about that. so there isn't a new access of peaceful powers that are anti imperialist. so the 5 is still in, not in your own mindset. and another good analogy i think is israel is like a cuckoo. it's the, it's born. and now us in your feet and the parents keep speeding it endlessly

until the end of the cuckoo. uh um the cuckoos life is not an easy one that often they get pushed out of the nest or they die, or else they killed their hopes. so we're in the, in between stage now where israel is really taken on all of the energy of its parents and it's a, it's sucking them dry. so whether this can continue indefinitely. well, it can. so i think that the best buy how, how the cuckoo finally dies, and that, that's the issue. we have to deal with know, you walk, you know, eric, you know, brought up the what the, the true international community and real global public opinion. and it's very, very clear where that stands again, it says the global south versus the, the, the rich north at white north, also in this case here. but, you know, i can remember very clearly when, after the, the, the iranian revolution that they being sort of throwing the shot. and then the

american embassy was taken by students and how rage the united states was because that's diplomatic territory, a sovereign territory. but no one in the no one in the west, even one of the debated the security council about what israel did to the diplomatic compound in damascus. i mean, the whole world sees this rank composite hypocrisy of the air in the united states a of the day. this is the united states double standard. uh, the united states was supporting the shops of iran at the end of the states were supporting the shot of you not even had the problem was what was the you know, but when it came to a system and a government game and the, you're on that is and started is them, and i'm starting a barrel of them. then they slip and then they started using the she, i to send me uh the, the, this is just send me

a conflict besides making it is an error. and that is what america is. what has been pumping money and billions of dollars on for the last 3040 years. uh today. uh . is there a been bombing in your area are you see in syria that between the officers your on has been being patient and let me try to take a look. try to go to don't we are steven? i'm sorry, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break, and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on escalation, say, with our team the, the lease of russian states never is as tight as i'm sort of the most sense. community invest ingles, all sense and up the same assistance must be the one else holes. question about this,

even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin move. yep. mission the state on the rush funding and supports the r t. suppose next. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say a request to check the, the, the known in vietnam to the vietnam war last it's almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. not any terms we have now, and then you don't see it. now. what is all i'm empty. hundreds

of thousands of american troops who was sent to the country to back the south vietnamese on me. i got to develop that. not meant to supply american soldiers limited resistors, most of us like the down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. and even lee by all right, did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah. yeah. that's, that's a ways to to but yeah,

the the welcome back across. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter le belcher mind. you were discussing escalation, the layla i, i was there a, a gas, but not surprised by how western politicians and media reacted to this. uh,

david cameron was talking about, you know, how it's disproportional. well, number one, and the, all of the facilities that we know that were attacked were military and intelligence, but there was no loss of life. so there was an injury. they won't show us what really happened, which is really odd because they loved the show disrupt destruction all the time. and then you have, you know, this, this of a portion of it. i mean, it's so amazing to me. what about what's happening in gaza? i mean, is that per portion that i mean even when confronted these people can not look at you with me. i and speak the truth. go ahead it's, it's, it's sounding it's, it's actually not. mine definitely gets a little after living with that kind of lucky patients. for the longest time, so we know we know that or sex 6 and what they do, they join some of the pass code on his powers leave with the same the victimize themselves whenever they are phones wrong. so at the end of the day, they continue to kids, for example, they've had, they've had, they've had estimated in, you know,

officials and scientists over the past decades. they skills not only basically um, the, the head of the eclipse to be gauge, but they have also kids, scientists over the past 2 years, we've seen that they've committed atrocities inside, you know, as well. and the $13030.00 ition came, they were like, oh we are being under attack. well, you, at the 1st, that's the 1st thing. the 2nd thing is that if you want to draw your attention to something that the colonial powers were always come to the aid of this race. when it comes to an attack against an embassy or whatever. basically the too much the commission that is, remember the us actually affect the french, the too much admission and i'm in a j a need you. when defense refuse to allow the americans to use that are space to go to the bar maybe. and then they attacked the chinese diplomatic mission basically. and you, if i remember it was in sarajevo or like one of the so back on states and nobody says anything. it is that is there is a thought, it'd be about technician, and it'd been think that's

a join to that. despite the commission and the whole world was silence about that. when did any, as we thought here, that's fine that everybody's investor. all these effects that have happened against the nationals and against it really does not belong in cedar rapids. also inside the don't. suddenly the world started playing it for, for almost $3.00 to $4.00 days before that you didn't even do it. it's a nation by saying, oh, there it is. so it's like, this really is the, is there it is. are that extends over here. they play with the negative, they shifted negative and nobody is buying, it's anymore. yeah. what so. okay, and plus, we do know though the american administration is basically lying about it. if i'm going to eric right now, um, so round gave a 72 hour notice in what they were going to do. okay. they very transparent and what they wanted to accomplish. so like eric will be, is israel is said to been in, in the dilemma right? now as we speak on how to retaliate, now we are told that the american administration doesn't want to be involved in any

and is really attack on iran. i really don't buy it. okay. i mean, the, the influence that the, the israel lobby has over american politicians and the media. i want allow joe biden to a band and the israelis, which means, you know, now we have this, we actually, you could make the argument. i certainly would that we are in the middle of the next world war because we can see how the, the, the biting lines are, are happening, russia, it ran, we have the access of resistance. and the united states is not going to walk away from this. and a lot of american politicians, particularly in the senate, would really welcoming and an open attack on around which would be disastrous for everyone. eric as well. yes, but that is the guy pack. yes, this is fine. this moment now it's got a congress really and it's cartridges. even if biden wanted to do what with getting re elected was making the great president would be to insist on this cease

fire and force israel to negotiate properly. that would be, of course, a wonderful thing, but it, israel with it with it assassinated is that's what it's great guys, very much like ukraine. it's a, it's at that stage and it's a distorted development that it goes after terrorist all right, activities. so it gets us in the leaders, kit kennedy, both kennedy's i'm, i'm convinced we're a mazda of the operations. we don't know, 911 that but these huge terrorist operations really is really, is very good at this and, and that's what it's built, it's so on. so i think even let's say trump trump's kind of wishy washy on a new grain. he seems to be very pro israel, but he's he doesn't like nathan, yahoo! he could slip the pages. so eric, i'm not going to give donald trump but a credit with him with

a lot of virtue. but eric, i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to be a war president in the, in this scenario right here. i think he is very terrified of it because it is a stance that will every one that's involved in it on the wrong side, the stench that they will carry for the rest of their they will be their legacy, their legacy of what they're doing right now. but steve, and if i could go back to you, um, what does the us really even have a choice right now? okay. and you can say a security commitment is iron clad and then it's not iron clad. how are they going to square the circle? the yeah, the uh, the united states is, uh, it's a funded and does he uh, yeah, for a furnace funded the is really military and it's been helping and supporting is really military and been sending aid and all of that from the american taxpayer money. but the, the existence as system this is really is using stuff from america,

and they have help as well and just laugh at that. and the doctors all came but the, as by the, by the decision pulled in jimmy, nothing else we did the scene, did you, but we're not going to participate with you in award. the by the, by them does not want to go into awards or reason war just because of benjamin. that's in, you know, this is a, this is, but this is what he does not understand. the what's happened on monday, call a cost over $1300000000.00. that's all coming out of the american taxpayer money. that's like this real pain it, but there's really people are paying that, that's the american taxpayer money and the americans, and whoever is next president. and that's what happened. but they should stop all this 8 the americans are all i have. i have the they should, that money should because the american people look on funding towards and supporting a psycho lack benjamin there to be

a whole who just wants to take the whole vision of the whole world into more of leeway. what is being said, really worries me here in, in lebanon here. do you think as a result of iran's retaliation? and we've discussed that it was a little over whelming, leah, a success in terms of what it wanted to achieve. how do you, how do people in 11 non feel now? is it more, more likely or less likely the, the israelis would attack your country? i can tell you because i'm covering basically the blue line, villages, stations and soft level. and basically i also room, i don't even speak to people from old supplies on different judges, instructions, most of the construction support the resistance and level as a fucking common enemy. this is a joke. you patient, everybody remembers what is there it is. it's 11 in 2006, there's really aggression 11. but at the same time, there are smoke buckets infections, who basically support the vendors, which is very weird. but then again, if you look at their history, they collaborated with this really is doing the occupational level,

but these are insignificant in terms of numbers that have been is do expect an escalation at any point because they know that this kind of occupation is treacherous. they don't need an excuse to going to escalate. however, when you open multiple trunk. and basically i gave the occupation it's sinks twice before basically expanding the problem. so we have a photo for residents for the time being. um, the way i see it going forward, we will be seeing an escalation because at the end of the day this is not the is randy ward against? basically the us thing is only this is the american war against the ocean interest in the region. that's why we saw the russians move them battalions to the front with the occupied. so you can go on hearts and at the same time. so it is short of pro and as it's a major struggle between, that's all it is. there isn't blessings, a visit because of those ridges and the indians. on the other hand, that's why we've seen the nature powers move. there's 3 gates on ships. so the eastern mediterranean region over the past 7 months. that's why basically we saw an

image of kind of the alliance between the excess of resistance as on both fronts in iraq and syria and lebanon. and even in yemen, and they are basically being supported by the ariens. that's one point or another. joshua came to the rescue to his own l. i. city and said, we are going to head if the what actually ex expense more than that because the russians understand the kind of getting that's being played at the moment. it's a power struggle between the americans and the russians and the some of the strain . you know, eric, we administer ation, needing the vitamin ministration. says that it doesn't want an escalation, but are they on the driver seat? i mean, they may not want it, but they, they may have to just go along because, you know, if you're going to the administration who's going to tolerate a genocide in gaza, they're going to go along with a greater war. i mean, not, you know that there is a continuation and thought there, eric, for us is tied to israel. so if one goes the other goes,

that's why is it really is an existential situation for her both because it's carried on now for 70 years and it's a future the us sees it's future through israel in the middle east and it's got to change that into israel is got to become a normal middle east country. somehow it's got to worry about eric eric if i for that to happen. era for that in the design is project past that come to an institute, and i know that has said so that it will happen already thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. i think it is early to last in the last 6 months. and if that's a continual bleeding, so israel, you know, it is marching forward into the future, but it's the people are the keynote, the end of this whole, all the project is revealed as

a parsed and that is your essential crisis. so i, i don't see this really resolving it easily. it's going to be a lot of angry or layla. let me ask you the last 25 seconds is this, the end of design is project that we witnessing it? i'm asked over 7. i have the space when i said this word was easier to speed up, it's a state solution or we're basically would see it is there as a different kind of scenario, not even is it, as we know today. and i believe that to be on the interstate solution is that it would not exist as we know it today. it could be one state, it could be, it's an end of it's, we don't know, but the situation going forward is going to be complete. the defense ok on that note, that's all the time we have a want to thank them i guess in toronto on a route and they look out talk to you. and in the course, i want to take our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time. and remember, across the rules, the,

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