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tv   Cross Talk  RT  April 17, 2024 6:30pm-7:01pm EDT

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the, the take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions fixtures designed to simplify. it will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . iran's retaliatory strike of israel is a game changer. a new red line has been established. thread no longer will
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outsource its confrontation with israel. meanwhile, the gaza genocide continues the cross knocking escalation. i'm joined by my guest, eric welburn in toronto. he is a writer journal as an author of the canada. israel next is in bay road. we have they look hard to him. she is a co founder of mid east wire dot com and, and we'll talk you, we cross to stephen. so who need he is an award winning journalist and chief editor of mid east discourse are across cyprus in effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it late. well, let me go to you. first thing b realty remind production i called this a game changer and new red lines have been established. do you agree with that? well, it's always basically a new line that's being pushed. the deadline has been established long time ago. there's a balance of better and better support in this region that everybody tries to test
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every now and then and, but then you basically attacks what happens and then the nation, everybody knows what the other side discuss level of. i mean, at the end of the day, some people consider that and see it as it goes by, by the radiance. however, if you look at the go see the it is minus to hit 2 is very limited to the base as well on the north by this point, and one basically in the called nova team and the, the one closest to the more no. so the idea is that everything else that they used with just a decor and they actually have the goals, there's, there is no know what the, what does that state, they might take it. and that's further just to say, face as one point or another or basically because the who wants to assess his height as they say, by kidding, that's weird because with those what he's going to go to try it on people are going to send him a life so you would have months are being drawn all the time. the thing is, the escalation is the thing that we see basically it increasing. well, and i mean i go and eric, i mean, do, do we have a new balance of deterrence right now?
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because the western media is down playing the or, and radian strike. but if you look at a book and people that have a more honest view point to mean this is quite catastrophic for israel is the 1st time that is real experience, something like that. so there is there, is there a new balance of deterrence in the region? he was absolutely issue the richard scott richard made the very guy telling point that his brother has actually expanded its borders. it's controlling now north israel in north israel is in it is and indefensible. and i don't think those settlers will ever be able to go back. so there is one aspect and also he ran his expand it, sporty straight to israel. it's showing that it is capable of reaching anything. israel, it's, i'm in new mexico and the most people entered in the neighbor. so
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it's a israel is no longer, so it's completely surrounded now. and it's cool in the around is part of is that a neighborhood? it's, it's almost like, uh, iran's announced itself is an integral part of the new middle east. yeah. and it's, and it's a neighbor you can't ignore okay at your well, you can ignore it at your peril. let's put it that way. stephen. oh, so if we can go back the, be all of these events, you know, i don't like to use october 7th as a beginning of something. it is very much in the part of the historical process that we've seen 75 years of zionism. but if we do take october 7th, what is real achieved? it has it's lost in, in gaza, is killed and tens and tens of thousands of defenseless people, mostly women and children. and as a eric has pointed out,
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so is really citizens in the north of israel cannot we turn and we have the, what's going on in the west bank, i mean, israel's and it has, it has had a string of failures here. steven. yes, that is through the israel's lately, not only actually in this war it's been starting to failure since the or 2006 was sell stuff going on. is the law that was a big failure at the war and guys stuff with the 1st floor and goes into thousands 7. i think also it was a failure. 2014 was a failure. and also in 20 to 20. 20 also was a video. i know this one is a big failure. it for 6 months is really been using all kind of weapons bombing from land guarantee. just they killed 40000 people that is not there to do their hostages. they did not to stop the missiles from the missiles are still going off of the north east to west all over the leaders of the, of the, of
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a somebody gave them some us are still in power. how most of the empower the achieve nothing today. and this is just starting to wear the slip on benjamin. dr. neal, and this is why we're seeing the people, the various sectors in the industry. it's up to like even jerusalem in big numbers and they are going to see more than more, more or more because you have that you have nothing. and now you start to move these old people and the whole region under united states as though originally war . just for one thing only, and that is, you know, he doesn't want to lose his chair as prime minister. well i, i also think, i mean, i'm just neither here nor there. if it's about nothing, yahoo, it's about design is project and design is project is a meeting. it's a lot of barriers right now in a lot of push back your way. like what? one of the most interesting things about israel's re, uh well actually, how is real and it's western allies reacted to
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a range of retaliation. is that it made it perfectly clear that israel cannot do this on its own. it must have the united states. it must have friends and must have the u. k. so that's a very perilous position for we want to be. and we know that joe biden is feckless and weak, but he's essentially signing up for is real security in a very meaningful way in a very expensive way. i'll also point out that is one of the game changing elements here to go ahead and pay with. it just doesn't say, i mean we've seen it. so during the talk some on this, any occupation the entity. and we saw the british, the american, and even the german plains working is coming over to so basically and health is reduced the, on some of those drones and goes ballistic missiles that were thrown or basically that is where the entity however, the house understand is there is a colonial project. so all the code on his web has created are the ones who continue to pump in money and basically arms to keep surviving over there. when it
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comes to by then he had lost most of the routes in terms of audits. and those who are a gift, this where that's happening, however, what he's banking on is going forward with the americans concerning. so how this really is he would go through the selections and says in new york on services, and those basically what's, what's afford this read is in his society that when he came into the rescue, we had to let him continue to send with that. how much was the them and the elections i $100.00 basically because the father know basically waking up to be added to that these various art criminals, they're getting for us to use. they are committing a genocide. that has been ongoing. not only for the 1st 7 months, but also for the past 75 years. and i don't think basic is in national consciousness, let alone basically the americans inside america. the united states would agree to that. we've seen the pools showing a change of heart and mind towards what these read entity is all about. and what there's need to ship in the us are the we well, you know, eric, it's very interesting joe biden's 1st reaction, public reaction to it was the call
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a meeting of the g 7, which i guess these people this don't see the iron now, but of course these are the former colonial powers and the powers that created the modern and middle east tier. would it be fair to say, because i've been saying this, that the g 7 is turning itself into the access of genocide, or what the by long with an ego, how to case that really uh, the item is still seeing the world through euro america, american european lens is that, that's the world. when it talks about worlds he is, he's really just referring to the white colonial powers. so when we are, when i think of world opinion, i think of the broader world opinion very much along the lines of what pollutant is talked about, that there is in a new access of peaceful powers that are, are anti imperialist. so the 5 is still in,
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not in your own mindset. and another good analogy i think is a israel is like a cuckoo. it's at the new it's born. and now us in your feet and the parents keep speeding it endlessly until and the cuckoo uh um. the cuckoos life is not an easy one that often they get pushed out of the nest or they die, or else they killed their holes. so we're in the, in between stage now where israel is really taken on all of the energy of its parents and it's a, it's sucking them dry. so whether this can continue indefinitely. well, it can't. so i think that the best buy how, how the cuckoo finally dies. that that's the issue we have to deal with. no,
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you want, you know, eric, you know, brought up the what the true international community and real global public opinion . and it's very, very clear where that stands and yeah, it says the global south versus the, the, the rich north at white north, also in this case here. but, you know, i can remember very clearly when the, after the, the throw a rainy and revolution that they being sold loose or throwing the shot. and then the american embassy was taken by students and how outraged united states was because that's diplomatic territory. a sovereign territory, but no one in the no one in the west even. what is the debate of the security council about what israel did to the diplomatic compound in damascus. i mean, the whole world sees this rank composite topography of the array in the united states to of the day. this is the united states double standard. uh the united states was supporting the shops of your on the states were supporting the show.
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have you not even had the problem was what was the it on, but when it came to a system and a government game and you're on that is on started, is them and i'm starting farrell lives in then they have a slip and then they started using the she i to send me uh the, she send me uh, conflict besides making it is an error. and that is what america is. my husband pumping money and billions of dollars on for the last 3040 years. uh today. uh is it is there has been bombing in or are you see in syria, the between the officers your on has been being patient and let me try to take a look trying to go to don't we are steven? i'm sorry, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break it down for that hard break. we'll continue our discussion on escalation state without the the,
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the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. we're such orders at conflict with the 1st law. show your mind, anticipation. we should be very careful about the personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to create a trust rather than fit the job. i mean, with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody who would be in the most protective on existence as exists the
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known in vietnam, american war, the vietnam war, lost it for almost 2 decades and drained in numerous countries. not any time between now and then you don't see it now, why it's all on the empty hundreds of thousands of american troops was sent to the country to bank the south vietnamese on me and that's on top of that not, but the american soldiers, limited resistors most of us like the down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals and li bye. all right. did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did and all of the enemies veterans ready to forgive? yeah, yeah, yeah. that's. that's
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a ways to go. yeah. hi, i'm rick sanchez and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department, the c, i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and whatever you do, don't want my shell stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way instead the welcome back across sack, were all things are considered. i'm peter about your mind. you were discussing escalation
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the, you know, i was very a, a gas, but not surprised by how western politicians and media reacted to this. uh, david cameron was talking about, you know, how is disproportional? well, number one, and the, all of the facilities that we know that were attacked were military and intelligence. and there was no loss of life though there was an injury. they won't show us what really happened, which was really odd because they loved the show destruct, destruction all the time. and then you have, you know, this, this of a portion of it. i mean it's so amazing to me. what about what's happening and gaza . i mean, is that per portion it, i mean, even when confronted these people can not look at you when the i and speak the truth, go ahead it's, it's, it's, it's sounding it's, it's actually not mine. but i think that's
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a little after living with that's kind of occupational for the longest time. so we know we know data tactics and what they do with a drawing, some of the passcode on his powers, they do the same, these victimize themselves whenever they ex phones wrong. so at the end of the day, they continue to kill. for example, they've had, they've had, they've had estimated it in, you know, officials and scientists over the past decades. they can not only basically, um, the, the head of the eclipse to be gates, but they have also kids, scientists over the past 2 years, we've seen that they've committed atrocities and saw it on as well. and the $13030.00 ition came, they were like, oh, we are being on the outside. well, us 1st, that's the 1st thing. the 2nd thing is that if you want to draw your attention to something that the problems were always comes to, the 8 of this is when it comes to an attack against an embassy or whatever. basically the too much the commission that says, remember, the us actually affect the spanish, the too much admission and, and, and, and as you need you, when differentiates, use to allow the americans to use that are supposed to go to the bar. they've you
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then they attacked the chinese diplomatic mission basically, and you, if i remember, it was in sarajevo or like one of the so back on states and nobody said anything. is there it is, a thought it'd be like technician and it'd been think that's a joint of it this, but the commission and the whole was silence about this. when did any, as we thought here, that's fine. that it isn't easy enough that all these effects of have happened against indian, national, of, and against it really does not belong in cedar rapids. also inside the don't suddenly the words start to think it for, for almost 3 to 4 days before that you didn't even do it. it's a nation by saying, oh, there is a gums that's like this really is. there it is. are that extends over here. they play with the negative, they shifted negative and nobody is buying it anymore. so yeah. what so? okay, and plus, we do know that would be the american administration is basically lying about it if i'm going to eric right now. and um, so around gave a 72 hour notice in what they were going to do. okay. they very transparent and what they wanted to accomplish. so like eric would be, is israel aside to been in,
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in a dilemma right now as we speak on how to retaliate. now we are told that the american administration doesn't want to be involved in any and is really attack on iran. i really don't buy it. okay. i mean the, the influence that the, the israel lobby has over american politicians and the media. i want allow joe biden to a band and the israelis, which means, you know, now we have this, we actually, you could make the argument. i certainly would that we are in the middle of the next world war because we can see how the, the, the biting lines that are happening, russia, iran, we have the access of resistance. and the united states is not going to walk away from this. and a lot of american politicians, particularly in the senate, would really welcoming and an open attack on iran, which would be disastrous for everyone. eric as well. yes, but uh, is the guy pack yes. this is its finest moment now it's got uh, congress,
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really in his crutches, even if biden wanted to do what with getting re elected with making the great president would be to insist on this cease fire and force is real to negotiate properly. that would be, of course, a wonderful thing, but it is real with it with assassin eats is. that's what it's great guys, very much like ukraine. it's a, it's not staging, its distorted development that it goes after terrorist activity. so it gets us in the leaders, kit kennedy, both kennedy's i'm, i'm convinced we're a mazda of the operations. we don't know, 911. but these huge terrorist operations really is really, is very good at this and, and that's what it's built, it's so on. so i think even that's a trump uh trump's kind of wishy washy on
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a new crane a i, he seems to be very pro is 0, but he's, he doesn't like nathan, yahoo! he could just slip the couldn't just slow. eric, i'm not going to give donald trump but a credit with him with a lot of virtue. but eric, i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to be a war president in the, in this scenario right here. i think he is very terrified of it because it is a stance that will everyone that's involved in it on the wrong side. the stench that they will carry for the rest of their they will be their legacy, their legacy of what they're doing right now. but steve, and if i could go back to you, um, what does the us really even have a choice right now? okay. and you can say uh, security commitment is iron clad and then it's not iron clad. how are they going to squared the circle? the? yeah, the uh, the united states is, uh, it's a fun the and does he uh,
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yeah for, for the funding is really military and it's been healthy and supporting. there's really military and been sending aid and all of that from the american taxpayer money. but the, the air defenses system that is there a is using stuff from america and they have help is really disliked at that. and the doctors often. but the, as by the, by the decision told the jimmy, nothing else we did the scene did you, but we're not going to participate with you in award. the by the, by them does not want to go into awards or reason war just because of benjamin that didn't you know, this a, this is, but this is what he does not understand. the what happened on monday, go a cost over $1300000000.00. that's all coming out of the american taxpayer money. that's but there's real pain it. but there's really people are payments. that's the american taxpayer money and the americans and whoever is next president. and that's
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what happens. but they should stop all this 8 the americans. uh, i have their have. they should that money should because the american people look on funding wars and supporting a psycho leg, benjamin netanyahu, who just wants to take the whole vision of the whole world into war. like one of the things that really worries me here in, in lebanon here, do you think as a result of iran's retaliation? and we've discussed that it was a little over whelming, leah, a success in terms of what it wanted to achieve. how do you, how do people in the, in lab a non feel now, is it more, more likely or less likely the, the israel east would attack your country? i can send you because i'm covering basically the blue line, villages, stations and soft level. and basically i also room, i don't even speak to people from old supplies on different diligence instructions, most of the construction support the resistance and level as
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a fucking common enemy. this is a joke. you patient everybody's to be members with is reduced. it's 11 and 2006. is there any aggression 11? but at the same time there are smoke buckets infections, who basically support that zane is, which is very weird. but then again, if you look at their history, they collaborated with is really doing the occupational level. but these are insignificant in terms of numbers that have been these do expect an escalation at any point because they know that this kind of occupation is treacherous. they don't need an excuse to go on to escalate. however, when you open multiple front. and basically i gaze documentation it thinks twice before, basically expanding the, the, the for on. so we have a photo. that's what us for the time being. um, the way i see it going forward, we will be seeing an escalation because at the end of the day this is love is really ward. again is basically the us thing is only this is the american war against the ocean interest and that agent. that's why we saw the russians move them battalions to the front with the occupied single on hearts. and at the same time,
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it's a show of po and as a, it's a major struggle between that's the only it isn't plus is a visit because of as we just and the indians. on the other hand, that's why we're seeing natal powers move. there's 3 gates on ships, so the estimate that the engine needs an over the past 7 months. that's why basically we saw an image of kind of the alliance between the excess of resistance along all fronts in iraq and syria and lebanon. and even in yemen, and they are basically being supported by the ariens, that's one point to another. joshua came to the rescue to his own life city and said, we are going to head if the, what actually is expressed more than that. because the options understand the kind of game that's being played at the moment. it's a power struggle between the americans and the russians. and the some of the strange and eric, we administration in the, by the ministration says that it doesn't want an escalation. but are they on the driver seat? i mean, they may not want it, but they, they may have to just go along because, you know, if you're going to evade ministration, who's going to tolerate a genocide in gaza?
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they're going to go along with a greater war. i mean, not, you know, there's a continuation and thought there, eric, the us is tied to israel. so if one goes the other goes, that's why is it really is an existential situation for, for both. because it's carried on now for 70 years and it's a future the us sees it's future through israel in the middle east and it's got to change that it's a israel is got to become a normal middle east country. so how it's got to worry about eric, eric departed for that to happen era for that it, the design is project passed to come to an institute and i know that's said so that it will happen already thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. i think it is early snow left in the last 6 months and if
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that's a continual bleeding. so israel, you know, it is marching forward into the future, but it's the people are, are leaking out. the end of this whole, all the project is revealed as a parsed and that is your essential crisis. so i, i don't see this really resolving it easily. it's going to be a lot of hand wringing all a let me ask you the last 25 seconds. is this the end of design this project that we witnessing it? um, october 7, i have the space. when i said this one was easier to speed up, it's a state solution or we're basically would see it. is it as a different kind of scenario? not even is it, as we know today. and i believe that to be on that to state solution is that it will not exist as we know it today. it could be one state, it could be, it's an end of its, we don't know, but the situation going forward is going to be completed. defense ok on that note, that's all the time we have a want to thank them, i guess in toronto, i'm
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