[000:00:00;00] the guns and the right to bear arms are deeply ingrained in american society to the 2nd amendment of the constitution. but at the same time in response to concern such as rising gun debts and mass shootings, it is back in the national spotlight. a majority of americans say it is too easy to legally obtain a gun in this country and favour stricter gun laws. i'm christy i. you're watching the cost of everything. where today we're going to be delving into the contentious topic. the cost of guns and fire arms and their impact on society the, the firearms industry is a significant player in the us economy,

generating billions and revenue annually and supporting thousands of jobs across the manufacturing, retail and related sectors. and as a market size of over $21000000000.00 in 2023 and is expected to grow 5 percent. the u. s. is also the world's largest export of arms with saudi arabia. but being the main recipient at 22 percent, the 5 largest arms export as include the us followed by russia, france, germany, and china, which together accounts for 75 percent of global exports. the us alone accounts for 39 percent. montana has the highest rate of gun ownership in the us, followed by wyoming, alaska, idaho, and west virginia. meanwhile, new jersey has the lowest rate, followed by massachusetts, rhode island, hawaii, and new york to the u. s. has far more civilian own firearms than any other nation

in the world. the country with the 2nd most firearms compared to us is canada with 72 percent fewer guns per $100.00 citizens. meanwhile, texas, not surprisingly, has more actual guns stockpiled than any other state. it is estimated that texas has over 1000000 guns and just over 29000000 residents, florida trails in 2nd place with just over 500000 guns. currently, more than 40 percent of households have at least one fire on this number has increased by 15 percent since 1994 with 18 percent buying more firearms. during the pandemic. more than 15000000 americans have a file i'm in their home for the 1st time today. estimates very on how many guns are circulating today in the us, but most sources suggests that guns out number americans, gun ownership can be a wonderful thing. it can give a person a sense of responsibility over their own life in a way that people who don't own them can't fully grasp. but even budget firearms

involve a significant expense. the price of gun ownership has more than just the initial hand gun sale. but there is more such as ammunition and any ancillary accessories, such as a safe, your protection, whole start cleaning supplies, i protection, etc. but the biggest cost of owning a. 6 arm is the cost to society. one of the most pressing questions regarding civilian fire ownership is do far as result in more death. with a relationship here is unclear whether us has more fire arms than any other country, brazil, el salvador, mexico and greenland have higher rates of gun related debts in texas, california, georgia, illinois, and florida. have more homicide and suicide deaths and any other state in 2021. however, these 5 states have a fire our ownership rate of only 15 per $1000.00 people. this suggests that there

is no direct correlation between gun ownership and fire arm related deaths. in fact, these 5 states have relatively low firearm ownership rates. however, more americans have died from gun violence in 20202021 than any prior year on record to gun related homicides and suicides. total 488302021 the shootings of children nearly doubled during the pandemic. the nation also endeared a record number of mass shootings in 2021 where there were 690 incidents in which 4 or more people were shot. and now today we're joined by civil rights attorney robert patello. now robert, can you provide an overview of the economic significance of the gun industry in the us, including revenue, employment, and contributions to the local economies? what people to understand is that the gulf industry of america, the largest industry, so in the country,

we have over 330000000 guns and america. some estimates have as high as 400000000 firearms. i in the hands of americans, this is more the one part citizen i in many states, i have companies, loc, and really to their major employers of the state where i'm at months of georgia. i would have many major corporations of homes of state because of their tax laws because of the laws of the constitutional kerry. then it doesn't look like this. the slowing down what? when see what the weight of the pen demik is, medical spikes and gun owners of among people were member gun owners previously of the group such as black and latino women are the fastest growing sectors when he comes to go on gun owners of ours in self defense classes nationwide, the auto pact to the brand after gateway system, particularly if i'm meeting minority communities, i feel that the nation was all the point of a soul or soul. people stop highly engineers and start calling guns and fire alarm

classes for building firearms have been on the never more populated. so these are the gun industry and a miracle right now. busy booming industry holes. and how does gun ownership in the us compared to other countries in terms of per capita ownership, rates, regulation and cultural attitudes towards firearms, america really gun culture through through as doors calling once that's where the golden cousin really has rocking some bombs in the nearest land we're kind of steep this idea of fierce independent militia. maybe we must get them fighting back and get rid of the red pulse of the regulars. we have reading to our constitution. the 2nd amendment, i want people to remember and so they were doing amendments. the 1st one was free, it was free. wonder to wait the 2nd, but maybe it was god's that of how about how important it is to the call to leave those here in america. else in print, pointers are found to get it again. this is indeed an individual right in the siding, right. what's the only important to melissa is are right. there's only important

one is not a right. there's only a pointed to the military, the individual lives right to, to have firearms in this country. because of this, we have a state level laws that regulate firewalls to refer to the step. so northern states by large have much stricter don't. most of us, they live in maryland, and you want to own a firearm. you have to, you have to buy him a round limit to your magazines. you have to the classes in order to own a, a pistol or a roland for the state, or to be licensed with the us 33 years where you deal with the public or we deal with large amounts of money or we may be endangered or even apply for fire reports, you go directly across the board for jimmy us, all this out the window you, if it was on a walmart or somewhere else, you have all the storage unit. it really depends on what part of the country you are in regards to the regulations. it's c meeting state, just wondering to what's called constitutional carry

a constitutional carrie was the cause of the because the 2nd name is the cost to so right, just before some of those, the constitutional rights of it, there should be no, will probably be required since you don't need a permit to you to 1st amendment. you still need a permit to use the 2nd amendment of 4 states of the state insurance. you have no lose with doors licensing for public hearings and firearms and carry close to when your help concealed carry a firearm. without a permit, is illegal for law enforcement to ask you why you have that firearm in any location where you're allowed to have businesses have to give this visual variances to stop you from carry your fire on to those locations. american bends over backwards to big cards as accessible as possible to the most individuals as possible and we've prepared other countries of almost unheard of internationally. countrywide suite and i have one of the largest largest growing populations in europe. it has been

one for every 10 household versus america where we have more than one firearm out per household. but for every individual in the country and goes on with assembly or to team and we go out because that balance, he continues to involve something like a cult 19 by uh, 1919 coastal pills lives over a 100 years old. well, $31.00 would be the factory to build that in 2023. you need a computer to print that off on a free bridge or you can program it into a micro lake and having to grow 3 of for able to produce and almost no cost to build. a loss of that was all goes going to be banned early this year. probably won't be any goes cuz it's just a piece of plastic. and you can print that off. on a 3 d printer, they have an operational firearms, all the unregistered accessories within hours of 15 lower. for example, you can take an old or 15 lower and put it into testing fan and cast your own lower

out of that drill. a few holes have have a fully false the error 15 in a few hours. so in terms of the progress of technology, it's almost impossible to know exactly how many firearms are that are in america, in beer, and what's impossible to try to stop those firearms. because now they can be produced by almost anybody at any point in time and are the lessons that can be learned from international approaches to gun control and violence prevention. either absolutely listen so we can work on the internet of sleep. we're going to go to control one. we know that the wholesale bands on firearms, on a national level, just simply do not work. what we've seen in countries where you do have those sorts of bands and the, the only people have guns are to criminals. are the people who are in games the were part of organized crimes. the individuals were in the list of a state video building for a while waiting for the individuals to be able to protect themselves and also communities. however, that lives under dialed in america has a problem at all. we have a problem with school issues. we have a problem,

we're almost getting part of american life has been shut up. will there be churches of shopping malls, entertainment complexes, etc. and we don't have a mass. you go through that. there was a, a cruise joke on the internet um, earlier this week after the uh, the trash terrorist attack in russia. where people say, you'll never see that happening in america because our, our shooters wanna shop the terrorist before they started shooting out the, the concert as a chrome jo variables here in the waiting room. the number of mass you can see in a mirror. so we have to work on using a leveraging technology to sort of gums that are getting into the hands of the right people. we should put in place mandatory backgrounds as well as mandatory training classes for individuals positive. they're not simply getting scared by the golf for $200.00 and then is going out and start shooting and hold them for the best. i've been waiting period for very much a reasonable aspect of gun control because of somebody else in the midst of an argument. mailings or not be able to directly run to the store by god forbid,

return to whatever the heightened situation was. so they are all smart the premises that can be taken big gun control to really read the dangers associated with will got files. but i don't think those will require the whole so disarm in america, american public. and can you provide insights into the toll of guns by lens in the us, including the number of lives lost injuries, the stain and the broader societal impact, the wound care denying? the negative externalities has been a part of the culture in america. one of the street gains of the role emitting major cities in many minutes. it is now, you know, children as young as might in team years old carrying guns and doing the contract with your se, washington dc or baltimore, atlanta, chicago, new york. los angeles of this is the real problem. we also have to look at the effect of the insecurity of also american public spaces that because of the,

of the major pilots in this country. many people feel disquieted, go to public events and sort of channels to the chief parade this year. for the super bowl, i'll be interrupted by gun violence. we see charts, services to be interrupted by god, violence. and we have to find the balance of the, in the united states of america, be able to have a free and open society, but also society, their respect, a 2nd amendment of respect to the right. so kind owners, we've tried meeting things so many things have failed. but what has to be be put into place are the types of smart technology and the smart strategies that can be used to keep the have out of the a get, keep close out of the hands of bad people. but make sure that the ball by that citizens have the right to protect themselves and to protect them family, protect their families. this is something that is so in 1st of the mirror going on to try to ban all guns tomorrow. good luck finding all of if you want to be of the sales people to make here, we have some in their basements. if you want to simply say what we're going to be

and also rival, well i'll put a one in stock on my a r 15. it won't lubricant or fault, rightfully more, of the most of the slogan the are in subject matter when it comes to discussing for all this the, so we don't work. and we have to have some more conversations about how we can leverage technology, how we can leverage social good allocated sure that we're protecting communities while also historic individual rights. and we're doing deliveries that are a lot of our constitutional values. thank you so much, robert, for all your time today. coming up after the break will be joined by another gun expert to talk about america's unique gun culture and the risk posed by what experts referred to as goes guns. don't go away

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which means it's time to slip down the rabbit hole and into a world all the russian time. the americans relationship with guns is unique and its gun culture is a global outlier. on the one hand, only a guide is a right imbedded in the 2nd amendment. but on the other hand, it is a privilege that should be regulated. there are about a $120.00 guns for every $100.00 americans according to the latest data. but that number could actually be much, much higher, goes guns, have created a major public safety issue. goes guns are often assembled from d i y kits or produced during 3 d printing technology. they have no serial number and are untraceable, presenting a significant challenge for law enforcement as they circumvent traditional background checks and registration requirements,

making them attractive to criminals and individuals seeking to evade detection. these kits are readily available and relatively cheap. the rise of ghost guns have also been accompanied by a surge in conversion devices that transform legal, semi automatic weapons into fully automatic firearms. police have seen a rise of 570 percent, and the number of conversion devices and a 1083 percent increase in ghost guns. between 20172021. the increasing ease of internet sales has made obtaining weapons easier than ever. a goes gun could cost as little as $200.00 as prince and designs on how to 3 print them, circulate, chat rooms. in contrast, many countries have chosen to ban guns altogether except for private security companies, militias, or parent millet carry groups. these countries include cambodia now these solomon islands and a handful of others. meanwhile,

other countries like singapore don't ban guns altogether, but is the strictest country in the world. when it comes to gun laws to own a gun, you must belong to a gun club and you must leave your gun at the club for storage. no guns are allowed at home. there is also a mountain of paperwork to fill out when you apply for ownership and permits are only valid for one year at a time. anyone who illegally owns a gun or even a munition faces at least 5 years in jail. china is also quite strict, making it illegal to own gun powder, ammunition, or guns or risk facing prison. japan basically band citizens from possessing, carrying, buying and selling firearms, as well as important gun parts unless they have a gun license, which is notoriously hard to obtain. candidates must take a written exam, as well as a shooting range test, where accuracy needs to be above 95 percent. the only guns you can own in japan are

shot guns. an air rifles, no hand guns or automatics. australia used to have a relax policy about gun ownership, but in the past couple of decades, that has changed as well that they made the process of buying only a gun as inconvenient as possible with a lot of paper work and licenses that must be renewed each year when the government passed this law, it also offer a buyback scheme to encourage citizens to hand in these guns. this lead to about 700000 guns being destroyed. so for this and more, let's bring in steve a bromwoods, host of heartland journals, tennessee podcast. now steve, how easy is it for individuals to legally obtain fire arms in the us and what process sees and regulations governing the purchase and ownership of firearms? it's getting harder for sure. uh for uh, you know, a 2nd amendment. it says shall not be infringed. they certainly figure out lots of ways to do it on fire. our licensing laws generally require those who wish to obtain a gun to undergo

a background check and apply in person submit additional information like fingerprints directly to law enforcement, complete a firearm safety course. wait for the application to be processed before acquiring a gun. uh california in new jersey or the states that have the strictest gun laws in the nation. california, california requires a 10 day waiting period for organ purchases, as well as thorough background checks for all gun purchases. and everybody has to go through an f b i background check to to walk away with a gun. are their ongoing debates and legal challenges surrounding gun control measures such as background checks, waiting periods, and restrictions on certain types of firearms. sure, every state has their, their, their means of doing this in tennessee for example, there's a bill that would allow school staff to carry concealed hand guns on campus. our governor li, once red flag laws based on mental health and reaction to the covenant christian trans,

active is killing of 6 people. democrats in the house. so they want to see something stronger from governor lee. this was a char $1574.00, which would expand that existing order of protection law that encompasses domestic violence cases. the, as the way the bill was written, this would be dubbed as a temporary mental health order protection. meaning those in question will have to be notified and given the opportunity to stand before a judge. and also in this past, the big one point, something trillion dollar bill this week was ethan's law legislation named in honor of ethan song, a teenager from connecticut, who was tragically killed in 2018 by an unsecured gun and a neighbor's home. the bill would create federal requirements for safe storage guns and established strong penalties for any violations, but it would also require safe storage to protect children and others from unsecured firearms and police can search your house not like the way you store your

legal firearms and then take them before that that would have been considered illegal search and seizure. now it's fair game. so definitely a 4th amendment rights violation. can you explain the concept of goes guides and their implications for fire and regulation and public safety and how common are these today? yeah, so they, those are also known as privately manufactured firearms, basically guns without serial numbers. it has exploded in recent years, claiming from about 1600 from crime scenes in 2017, to nearly 200-2021. and that's a 1083 percent increase prompting the atf to significantly tough and his regulations on homemade weapons at the atf national integrated ballistic information network facility in dc. ballistic evidence is evaluated and matched to crime scenes from across the country. but without serial numbers on the gun frames, it has virtually impossible to trace goes guns and track down dealers who are

selling guns illegally to miners or to people without proper firearm licenses. so that is a huge concern. that is why i am pro gun company manufacturer and not so much the do it yourself at home. but, you know, back in the day from the very 1st loan or rest of our british man in 2013 suspected of 3 d printing a gun in what's thought to be the 1st ever caesar of a next generation weapon to shocking a 108 in the 1st half of 2023 alone um the surge interest the paints, a picture of how the 3 d printed firearms have shifted from a minor concern to a more noticeable phenomena in crime statistics. the over a 100 fold increase in a decade, underscore is the accelerating interest. the criminals and gains have developed in these on, traceable and undetectable weapons. also known as coast guns. how do the wi fi arm kits and 3 d printing technologies contribute to the proliferation of untraceable

firearms and the production of these who made guns? yeah. that they certainly are part of it. yeah, i mean firearm tracing begins when a law enforcement agency discovers a firearm. at a crime scene, right? so the crime has to be happened 1st before they even get involved. and of course it was 3 d printed prior to it being used in a crime. so when it seeks to learn the origin or background of that firearm, in order to develop investigative leads and tracing is a systematic process of tracking the movement of a firearm from its manufacturer or from its introduction to us commerce by the importer through the distribution train the wholesalers, retailers, so identify unlicensed. uh, lets say purchaser, that information can help to link a suspect to a firearm, and a criminal investigation and identify potential traffickers, firearms tracing can detect in state interstate and international patterns in the source and type of,

of crime that the gun was used in atf processes these crime gun trace requests for thousands of domestic and international law enforcement agencies each year. it also traces us sources, firearms recovered, and foreign countries for law enforcement agencies in those countries. traces classified as routine are complete within $7.00 to $10.00 days on average. the law enforcement agency submitting the trace request, the term is the trace classification. so with a ghost gun with no serial number, almost impossible to do that. so most of these crimes will probably go on solved. there's a thing called a trace. you trace it the as a web based fire increasing system available to accredited domestic and international law enforcement agencies to assist in the tracing of those us sources for them. so the technology is getting better, but the ghost gun scenario, the know the serial number scenario is very difficult. and then the last thing i'd say about that is there's, there's records, there's what's called out of business records. they're integral in the fire and

tracing process. um, fails that discontinue business are required by law to send all fire? i'm transaction records to the mtc receives and average about $5000000.00 out of business records per month. atf utilizes out of business f. a file records to assist in the investigation and firearm taps when it could be incomplete. identifying information is available. so since 1968 atf has received several 100000000 of those type of records in it's out of business records depository is the only one of its kind in the world. so again, if it's a ghost gun freshly printed on a printer, those types of crimes just can't go on solve. um the atm receive thousands of record search requests from law enforcement jurisdictions weren't individual firearm owner has no record of the firearm identified or the fail from whom new owner purchased the firearm is no longer a business or not even a live. maybe somebody's grandfather's gun. these records are proven pivotal in order for criminal investigations. um,

so we really do need our licensed serial number to register guns to be out there to fight crime. and can you discuss the industry's efforts to implement strategies to track fire arms throughout their life cycle and prevent legal sales and traffic a yeah, between each race and the out of business directors, the best one i think is the the firearm examiners are able to examine bullets and cartridge casings to determine if they were expelled from that same firearm that may be found at the scene of a crime. so the gun itself may be disguised, but the bullet may be able to be traced back to it. and that's obviously the key because guns don't kill people vote scale people, right? so if you have the ability to trace the bullet back to either the manufacturer or the seller or the owner, that is another way to solve the crime. but again, if the gun itself is a ghost, very, very difficult. thank you so much, steve,

for all your insight today. while there's a lot of debate surrounding guns, fire arms are a tool that most commonly comes to mind when people think of a tax. but firearms are certainly not the only weapon to be used, nor are they the most effective means of committing may have. so it is important to remember that guns don't kill people, people kill people, and guns are merely a tool used by most for survival and sportsmanship. perhaps the most troubling aspect of gun ownership for protection today is the sharp edged individual is um that it implies that institutions can't be trusted and that the police will be unresponsive. i'm christy, i thanks for watching and we'll see you right back here next time on the cost of everything

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