cisco public utilities commission is called to order. this is the last of the meetings as of the last and continuation of the of the budget hearing. so can we have a roll call please? president paulson here, vice president rivera here, commissioner jeremy, here. commissioner. maxwell. commissioner stacy, here. you have a quorum. all present. okay so i'd like to announce that the san francisco public utilities commission acknowledges that it owns and are stewards of the unceded lands located within the ethnohistoric territory of the muwekma ohlone tribe and other familiar descendants of the historically federally recognized mission san jose verona band of alameda county. the sfpuc also recognizes that every citizen residing within

the greater bay area has and continues to benefit from the use and occupation of the muwekma ohlone tribe's aboriginal lands since before and after the san francisco public utilities commission's founding in 1932, it is vitally important that we not only recognize the history of the tribal lands on which we reside, but also we acknowledge and honor the fact that the ohlone people have established a working partnership with the sfpuc and are productive and flourishing members within the many great area san francisco bay area communities today. so let's call the first item number three, which is a summary of the budget hearings. and if there are any questions, donna, can you read it officially? yes item number three is a summary of budget hearing questions. okay. madam secretary, um, there was one question that came up, uh, last week. uh last meeting from, um, commissioner maxwell that i wanted to address, and it had to

deal with the issue of, um, contracting out and correlation of, um, uh, staff vacancies. um, i just want to make clear that there is no correlation between contracting out and staff vacancies. consultants are not replacing silver service staff, but are at most augmenting puc staff and only for specific approved reasons to receive an exception to the general rule that services are to be provided by employees. there are specific, specific criteria that are applied. a documented procedure notice to our labor partners, and oversight by the city's civil service commission. anyone looking to contract work out must answer whether civil service classes can perform the work. reasons to allow generally fall into three categories. number one, immediate needs and emergencies. to address unanticipated or transitional situations or emergency situations. two the short terme or capital projects for projects requiring diverse skills,

expertise or knowledge, and three as needed intermittent or periodic services when services are required sporadically or during peaks and workload, with the exception of infrastructure, which, due to the nature of its work, uses many professional services contracts. the amount of contracts in the agency is very small looking at the ratio of professional services consultants to puc staff, it is about 13% for the water enterprise, is 7% for wastewater and 9% for power infrastructure has a clear process to work through um contracting needs to ensure that the sfpuc gets the expertise it needs to deliver on its projects, but still ensures city workers perform as much work as possible. all of those only a very small fraction of these are actually doing work that city staff could do, but we contract out due to vacancies for wastewater. it's nine staff, five of which are in the collections systems division and

four are in the planning and regulatory compliance division for power. it's for staff, which forms a high voltage crew, not a professional services contract. and for water, it's 34, six of which are at uh city distribution division and 28 are at hetch hetchy water and power. bottom line, there is a process very well defined and public with notice to our labor partners. and our numbers show that is used very sparingly. the contract, the contract form is posted for all union classifications related to the scope of work and unions have an opportunity to review and object to the posted form. so i know that we have, uh, wendy macy, our chief people officer, here, to answer any questions, but i wanted to make sure that we answered that question about correlation up front so that we could ensure that, um, you were confident that most of the work being done here is being done by our city staff. thank you, mr. herrera, for that clarification

and for the fast answer. and, uh, commissioner maxwell comment, i know that you had initiated that, uh, question. yes. thank you. and i'm glad to hear it. and i am also and again, thank you for responding so quickly. i know that, uh, as i was coming up here today, it's clear that, uh, the entire city coalition from all departments, you know, all city employees are in bargaining right now as we speak. and i know that the issue is, is that people are, uh, very always very nervous that, you know, you know, with layoffs and budget crunches that people are going to get squeezed out. and it's glad to be reminded that this city does have a policy about contract out that's very specific in which city workers are prior ties. so thanks for that timely reminder. any other comments or questions regarding the past meeting? seeing none. um, let's read the official item number three, please. um,

actually, we need public comment on this item. oh yes. um, so let's open this up to public comment. three members of the public present to provide comment on item number three. see none seeing none, and obviously none online. so, um, let us go to the next item, please. item four power enterprise and clean power sf fiscal year 24 to 25 and 2526. operating and capital budgets and ten year capital plan and we have, uh, welcome, miss hale. thank you. barbara. sorry there you go. sorry. thank you. barbara hale, assistant general manager for power. thank you for holding on all the way to your fourth budget workshop. here we are to talk about power. so, uh, today i'll provide an introduction for some context, provide a brief reminder of our

levels of service, which you adopted in just in november of 2023. and. and those really, you know, ground our work and then get into our budget requests and how they help us meet our levels of service and priorities is let me begin with how power enterprise is organized to do our work. the power team is divided into four organizational groups, each led by a deputy manager. they are here today to hear your guidance and feedback and assist with any questions i have. so please allow me to introduce each of them. moving from, uh, left to right on the org chart that you see here, we have our operations deputy manager position, which is vacant due to a retirement. so our next level of leadership is here is, uh, i'm going to ask each member to stand to be acknowledged. rich stevens is managing our power utility field services team. um, sunita jones

is leading our wholesale and retail services team. and matt ho, who leads our distribution engineering efforts. and then we have catherine spaulding, who manages our programs and planning work. mike himes, who manages our clean power, sf and power resource work. and pamela husing, who manages our interactions with pge on the wholesale distribution tariff litigation and settlement efforts and who manages our federal acquisition project. so you see the functions in the staff each oversees here on the on the org chart. um, i just want to take an opportunity to publicly acknowledge the great work that these folks do. um, you often see me, right? it's these people, right? and the teams that they lead that are really doing the work and to serve san franciscan, um, residents, businesses and local public services with our clean,

affordable and reliable power. so i just want to take a minute to say thank you to them. thank you. thanks yes. uh, this staff that you see on the org chart here, they they apply their skills to both of our, our retail electric service programs . right. our hetch-hetchy power program and our clean power sf program. and they charge their time accordingly. so for example, we have we have to perform demand forecasting activities. the demand forecasting staff report up to sunni. they forecast the hetchy load and they forecast the clean power sf load losing using the same tools and resources. so we share skills and resources and make sure the benefiting ratepayer is charged for the work. this attention ensures fair cost allocation and supports our cost base rate making for each of the programs. so now let's do a quick review

of the programs themselves vs power enterprise operates these two retail electric programs and operates and maintains our street and pedestrian lighting systems. so hetchy power is san francisco's publicly owned retail electric utility. the clean power sf san francisco's community choice aggregation option. power serves. about 386,000 retail accounts. 75% of the electricity that's consumed in san francisco is produced by our team. each program has its own operating and capital budgets, with street lighting included in the hetchy program. different program budgets are due to the fact that we have distinct ratepayers in each of the programs. the hetchy customer base is dominated by city and county services. is san francisco's muni system. sfo the general hospital, city hall, police and fire stations, libraries, our own water and wastewater enterprise resources,

and a growing number of businesses and residents. through our redevelopment efforts like the transbay terminal, the hunters point shipyard, pier 70, and the redeveloped portions of treasure and yerba buena island as they make up the 6300 hetchy customer accounts. you see on the slide here. clean power sf customers include resident like yourselves, your neighbors, your neighborhood businesses, us and larger commercial customers like salesforce tower. they make up, excuse me, the 380,000 plus clean power sf customer accounts , the hetchy program, budget is about 220 million, and the clean power sf budget totals about 370 million this year. all of our customers benefit from local accountability and response. liveness cleaner non nuclear supplies a dedicated, local represented workforce and more affordable and stable rates. had

she power service to the city and county of san francisco customer departments. lowers the cost of city services, we project more than $50 million in savings to the general fund departments. just this fiscal year, 50 million for enterprise customers like water port at the airport and our hetchy commercial and residential customers. we project more than 70 million in savings on their power bills this fiscal year, and that doesn't include the rate increase that pg and e is anticipated to implement in march. so when i'm talking about these savings, i'm saying relative to who else could be providing them service. and that's pg and e 120 million has been saved in one year by having hetchy power service available here in san francisco in calendar year 2023. so that was hetchy and calendar year 2023. clean power sf service to

residents and customers. uh, customer businesses saved san franciscans more than $50 million. more affordable rates means our customers have dollars in their pockets to spend on their needs and desires. so with that context, let's now discuss how much revenue we're talking about, right? how much are we taking in and how are we spending it? uh, remember, commissioners, you heard from agm of business services and cso, cfo nancy hom and our deputy cfo and budget director laura bush, that we have a total proposed operating budget for the puc of $2 billion in the first year of the budget and 2.1 in the second. from these revenue totals, powers ratepayers are funding 623 million and 658 million for the two budget years. that's, um, the up country, uh, expenditures that our ratepayers fund. that's

s the expenditures here in san francisco and through our hetchy program that our ratepayers fund and the clean power sf program that amounts to about 31% share of the agency total budget. the difference between the revenue totals, you see here and the budget proposals are the contributions to meeting our reserves and fund balance. so while we collect 728 million from our power ratepayers in fiscal year 25, we're only proposing to spend 623 million, right? the rest stays in the bank. now let's talk about how we'll spend those revenues. we're proposing to spend those revenues. what you see on the donut chart here breaks out the uses funded by hetchy power ratepayers. both capital and operating lower local and upcountry and you know, we use these terms local and up country, right. locals a little confusing. soes up country see local refers to the expenditures that are supporting our

streetlights in san francisco. so, um, supporting our hetchy power service to our customers that are located in multiple counties, um, san francisco, san mateo, alameda, tuolumne, wherever the city has facilities. hetchy power is the power provider and up country includes the facilities managed by the hetch hetchy water and power division, who is. geographic scope ranges from the sierra to the coast range in newark, as. as agm, richie described uh. he also presented the budget proposal for the up country hetchy uses. excuse me, that's the blue parts on the donut here referred to in the budget as hetchy water. where hetchy power ratepayers fund, the power costs and 55% of the joint cost s today i'm just going to present the hetchy local budget proposals and the clean power sf proposals. right. so, um, let's dig into the details on the uses in these

next slides. but first let's we'll do the clean power sf revenues. so this pie chart breaks out the uses funded by clean power s.f. ratepayers. the clean power sf budget totals for 52 452 million and 446.9 million in the two budget years. this is a very dull chart because our clean power sf ratepayers are predominant funding, operating costs and the operating costs are dominated by the purchase of power for and reliability products. now we'll talk about our our how our proposed budgets relate to our priorities and levels of service. so you have seen this slide throughout our our budget hearings. right. power like the rest of the agency, is keying in on affordability through our capital planning and program development. responsible management and investing where it matters. i'll discuss these

broad priorities and the red boxed sub subordinate priorities as they relate to the specific operating and capital requests that i'm presenting. so you'll see that that linkage as the as we go through the slide deck power also tests the proposals against our levels of service presented to you and adopted in november. um, to recap, here are the five which are tied to function budget areas, power supply. that's where we're talking about reliable, clean, competitive power supply, transmission services where we focus on it being cost effective and reliable. power distribution. again cost effective and reliable city programs. that's safe, reliable, valuable to customers. these are programs street lights and then power administration where we're enhancing customer and user satisfaction is the focus. we have 19 objectives in nearly 100 detailed performance metrics behind these levels of service.

we use these performance metrics in our annual planning process and to identify gaps and inform our hetchy power and clean power sf budget requests. and here is the result for the hetchy power program. you see the growth from the adopted budget. the first stacked bar. and what you're seeing here is i would characterize as modest growth in the first budget year, more in the second, the growth is really driven by capital needs and debt service. and both budget years. that's the gray and darker green at the top of each bar. and in the second budget year, an increase in the purchase of power component, which for the hetchy program includes distribution charges from pg and e and that's the large orange bar at the bottom. here's the same information in raw numbers highlighting. the overall growth

of 3% and 13% over the two budget years. and you can see the drivers and their influence on the growth with the first budget year, capital and debt service contributing 9% of the overall 3% growth, and those drivers together with the purchase of power and distribution, contribute 10% of the overall 13% growth. the decrease in uh, power purchase and distribution that that -13.4 million is mostly a reduction in distribution costs paid to pg and e due to corrections and true ups. um, on how pg and e calculated our costs, the technical there's a technical reduction there of the clean power sf work order as well. that 2.1 million and that represent a change really in administrative timekeeping practices. power enterprise staff who support both clean power sf and hetchy as i said before, charge their time directly to the program. their

working on, rather than indirectly charging their time to a work order that is billed later. so we're trying to be more efficient and direct with that administrative change. same dollar amounts, just being treated a little differently in this budget, going forward than in prior budgets. the rest of the changes relate to operating budget proposals that i'm going to describe later in the presentation. in an although not a driver of growth, both labor the top row is always an important cost and valued resource source. so here we have the hetchy power position changes that we're requesting a total of 17 new positions over the two budget years. and nine temporary positions that we request be made permanent. we have repurposed positions we where we could, resulting in 12 substitution ones. we have trained and invested in quality staff, but they won't stay with

power if the position is temporary or limited terme, they'll jump to another department as soon as a permanent position arises. so generally the new positions here address emerging needs and to meet the pace of our customer needs. so that was an overview of hetchy. let me now do an overview for clean power sf using the same priorities and levels of service. you see the growth from the adopted budget. the first stacked bar significant growth in the first budget year, stable in the second, and the growth is driven by an increase in the purchase of power component that large orange bar at the bottom. here's the same information and raw numbers highlighting the overall growth of 22% and 1% over the two budget years. and you can see the driver and its influence on the growth, its purchase of power that first budget year. it contributes 18% of the overall 22% increase. programat projects

for clean power sf are primarily, primarily customer programs. we go into the details on slide 22 for both hetchy and clean power sf on that. that change that you see and here we have the clean power sf position changes that. we're requesting a total of five new positions over the two budget years. seven temporary positions that we request be made permanent, and one substitution where we've repurpose an existing position already in our budget. but again, this is really about retention and addressing emerging needs. these position changes are not drivers behind the budget increase. um so let's dive into what really are the drivers i've identified purchase of power as a cost driver. and at your first hearing, you heard the same from our deputy cfo and financial planning director, miss gorbunova. describe and the high energy costs and how they

are factored into the hetchy power and clean power sf financial plans and anticipated rates, both of our programs participate in the wholesale market for energy reliability products like resource adequacy and clean energy products like renewable portfolio standard and ghg free attributes. see the steep increase starting in 2020, it peaks and then stabilizes. but really at a much higher value. and while, uh, prices are increasing, so is our customer demand. so from a financial perspective, it's both cost and volume that increase the need. on the left here you see the impact on hetchy with the orange or does it come out orange. yeah i kind of yellowy orange bar representing power purchases and delivery costs. so we have higher energy costs, higher charges from pg and e for

delivery of power to our customers over the grid they own. and increased sales volume all three contribute to the hetchy increased expenses over the financial plan period that you see here. and then on the right you see the impact on clean power sf. you see the orange bar power supply bar bump up the expenses in 2025. the higher power prices are sustained throughout the financial planning horizon. and for clean power sf again, increased sales volumes are there, but they're more tempered, so the slope is less steep than for the hetchy. um uh, picture on the left. so that's all by way of background and context for the specific requests. before i get into the specific operating requests, i'm going to go ahead and pause and see if there's any questions on what i've presented so far. please commissioner jaime. thank you, miss l, that was, uh, very informative. i have a question

for you. uh, i'm. this is maybe, um, um, a little bit more clarify ation rather than conte went. so why do we have the cost of using pg ac that's under, uh, hetch hetchy power versus the clean power sf because is the way we provide that service to people is through clean power of sf right now. no, let's, let's let's make sure i'm clear on this. um so for the hetchy power program, we're providing fully bundled electric service. so we purchase from well, let me back up. we generate the power, right? we deliver it. it comes to san francisco via transmission system and distribution. so we engage with the california iso to get it here. right. we engage with pg and e to distribute it around to our customers meters. we

purchase distribution services for the hetchy program as a wholesale customer of pg and e, so on the hetchy side of our budget for purchasing power, we include those distribution charges. all right. for clean power sf under state law, pg and e continues to meter our bill, distribute, respond to outages. they provide those services. it's not a bundled utility service like hetch power is so when you open your clean power sf bill, it's a pg and e bill, it's pg and e branded. there's one page and that's just for our generation services. pg and e is providing the distribution. the transmit. often there's other charges on the pg and e bill. right so that's why you see purchase of power in the clean power sf budget. you don't see distribution charges there, but you do see distribution charges on the hetchy power bill, because we're providing the distribution service. got it. um, and. then one quick question

is, imagine we managed to acquire those assets. um, how would this chart differ if we are the one who are providing the assets? i'm wondering, like anticipating the budget that's going to come down at some point if we are successful in that process, uh, with this shrink, with this grow. i mean, i think that we still need to pay for the, uh, distribution operation of the assets, taking care of them, all of that. right? right. we would still we would, um, under this scenario where we are the owner of the grid in san francisco, we would then have the cost for operating and maintaining the grid. we would be in charge of what improvements we make. uh, so, so we would see a capital plan, changes associated with that. we would see operating and maintenance changes associated with that. we have projected in looking at the cost of the

purchasing, the system, um, estimating what we would be in, including in a ten year capital plan to improve the system over a financial planning horizon, looking at what it would cost to operate and maintain the system if we owned it, if we were providing fully bundled, um, electric service as a publicly owned utility in san francisco, those costs would come below what it would cost san franciscans for pg and e power. so we see it as providing an opportunity to bring lower cost power, greater responsiveness, better accountability to the regulators, yourselves and our board and our mayor. um, so an overall improvement for our san franciscans and the budget process would include all those conversations about what are we going to invest those ratepayer dollars in, right. so the same kind of conversations we're having here today, we would be having just on that greater scope. yeah. and i understand

that. and i appreciate that. i just want to make sure like i know that we have done some analysis in the background to make sure we know how that cost is going to look like. i'm just wondering, like, are we continuously be, um, sort of looking into that because that bar can be smaller or depending on what quality we are, uh, the assets are left in, can grow. so it's it may shrink, but i'm wondering, like, how certain we are is going to shrink and, um, and again, this is not a, um, it is important for our broader budget discussion, maybe not for the next two years. um, but i was just trying to understand how that the size of the bar would change to 2034. if we are a different looking utility. yes, yes. yeah. so larger and yes, we are continuously looking at those numbers. we have

information that's publicly available about pg e system. we are querying them, um, for more information to make sure that we have as much information as we can on the condition of the system as we look at that financial question. right. okay. um and one last question. i have on this is when you we are looking at the slide right. one quick second. slide nine. um, i have a feeling that, you know, the one that shows. yes. all the bars and the priorities we have, uh, you know, i have a feeling that all those boxes applies to every enterprise. right. and i do recognize that, for example, we adopted affordability policy for water and wastewater. but if we are a fully fledged utility, we potentially need to have something like that for power.

so i'm wondering if it's important to kind of put some of those like or for example, another example for you, it's like addressing regulatory requirements, which is not highlighted here, but the utility, the required regulatory requirements for electric utilities are also evolving due to wildfires. was flooding a lot of other things. so i'm wondering how we make decisions about which one of those boxes we should highlight and which ones we shouldn't. um, go ahead. yeah. so you're right, we're doing all of these things right. and what i'm highlighting here with the red is just those that are, um, involve a proposal that's before you. so so you're right. we have a regulatory team. we're completely engaged at the california puc, the california energy commission, the california air resources board, the california iso, the legislature trying to make sure that our interests, our ratepayers interests are well represented. and we're we're

making sure that the regulations that come down align with san francisco's values without being overly burdensome and costly to our ratepayers. right. and that links to affordability. we don't have an affordability policy yet for that applies as you as you mentioned to our clean power programs. but but we are ever vigilant on affordability. we just don't have a proposal in the in the budget before you that directly connects with that box. so that's why it's not highlighted. okay so we are looking at this. we are doing the all these boxes, those are the ones you have highlighted are the ones that you are asking for. changes in the budget. yes for okay. thanks for clarifying that. you're welcome. commissioner maxwell. thank you. and thank you for a great report. um, and with that said, then could you give me an example when you since, uh, on the same slide nine accountability racial equity and transparency and so what, since

you said that it's because you this is related to what you're talking about today, could you explain to me or give me an example of, of what you mean by that and how you're working on it? sure, sure. so i talked about the regulatory involvement we have. right. uh, lots of attention there. um but really, when it comes to the, um, um, racial equity and accountability , i think that goes more to our programs where we're interfacing with our customers. so we have you'll see a slide later where i describe the different customer programs we offer for hetchy and for clean power sf. we have a practice of focusing on addressing disadvantaged, aged and low income communities within our programs. you know, where are we going to spend our program dollars, our focus is on low income and disadvantage communities, and i think that's very responsive to that. that particular box. okay. and so

then when you say power administration, enhanced customer and user satisfaction, is that how does that work? is that a part of what you're talking about? yes. so we have, for example, our customer engagement team, um, sits with customers who are prospective, you know, maybe it's a developer who's thinking about the choice between hetchy and clean power sf or, or pg and e service. uh, maybe it's a, um, a newly constructed, affordable housing building. um, we have a large number of affordable housing customers who are coming from, um, housing authority, um, legacy buildings right into the new buildings in san francisco. the legacy buildings tended to be master metered, which means the tenants did not receive an electric bill. our customer engagement team goes to the new building as the customers come in as the, uh, tenants come in, we have community meetings on site to help them understand

hatchy power as a as their power provider, to go over the bill and to help them understand what an electric bill, you know, all the different elements. it's complicated. um, and if you don't have a habit, uh, of interacting with an electric utility, um, you know, we take that, uh, um, that accountability, that relationship that, you know, how do we efficiently get our message across? uh, seriously. and that's an example of that. wow. that's great because and that's more people to vote in favor of because we have an idea . that's great. and then, um, how many positions do you have altogether? oh, uh, i have that. here, give me a moment. it's on that early slide where we talk about the two programs.

what is it, 200 and. hang on a second. i know i have it. sorry i'm flipping through here, and i'm not seeing it off right off. but it's around 250. i think when you include the, um, the, um, on and off budget positions. 213. sorry. thank you. so it's 213. yes and then so you're asking for how many positions altogether. so we have new positions for clean power sf that are, um. 1212 new positions. well, five new seven converted from temporary to permanent for clean power sf and for hetchy 17 new positions, nine converting from temporary to permanent. okay. so how many? that's over the two years for

each of those. so how many is that? you have a number of people. somebody figure that out. how many new positions is. uh 22. and 213. i'm bad at math. and with a camera rolling. two 3235 positions altogether at the end of 2025. yes okay. um. that's right. yeah. okay all right. so. all right. excuse me. and you have, um, going back, how many vacancies do you have now? so our vacancy rate i think is around 23% at this point. it's like, huh. that's a familiar number. i think, um, 23. 15.3, 15.3 for hetchy and 16.8 for clean power sf. oh,

sorry, that's the attrition number. i apologize, the vacancies power. is 27.4. okay. so 14.6 vacancies for clean power 27.4. vacancies for hetchy . and that was in december. wow. okay. we've done some onboarding since then. my i'm sorry commissioner. it might be helpful if you also just so just like we did with for consistency sake we did with steve robinson. how many are in the hiring process at this point if you know that information? oh uh, i don't have that off the top of my head. sorry um, but we have, um, a majority of those vacancies are moving through the hiring process now, we do have quite a few vacancies. as in the classification on that is a 5602 utility specialist where we're waiting for the next list to be

published. what is it? so, 3602 specialist, uh, utility specialist performs analytical work. they have to come with some some at least three years of experience in working at a utility. so it's not an entry level position typically. um, so they have some maturity in the, in the, in the business. uh, they, they that is one of our core positions, ones, um, within power, um, where, uh, where we have exhausted the existing civil service lists and are waiting for the next list to come out. so that's an example of what sort of in process, one of the sort of push me, pull me point outs right where the city puts together a list. we have to wait for a fresh list to be able to make hires. uh, 5601 were anticipating a list. i think that list is that one done? was just established. so the 5601 utility analyst position is the entry level position. you can

come you have to have a college degree. i don't think there's substitute options approved by the city process yet. um for that and those positions, you know that list just came out. so we'll be filling those vacancies as we go through the interview process for, for um, for utility and lists. we have a number of vacancies in very hard to hire for classifications. the general manager at the opening in the in item three and answering questions mentioned that we have high voltage crews augmentation for members um, that are contracted. we have like eight vacancies or so in that job classification. um, it's open continuously for hire. uh, anytime. um, someone says they're interested, we bring them in and, and interview them if they've met the minimum qualifications as a high voltage line worker. um, but oftentimes

they, they either, um, uh, some of the challenges we have in that area are they are not qualified to work in the united states, um, or they will have to move from a distance. and we do not provide move, move. um reimbursement, uh, so it can be very challenging when we do get candidates. it's, uh, sometimes we've we've found that when they realize the job is located in san francisco. so, uh, that they, they decline because they can't see how they can make it work financially or they just don't want to live in an urban setting. um so those are some of the, the job classifications that we have vacancies in today and what our efforts are in filling them. are we also competing with with other utilities for these same people? yes. the the so we're yes, we compete with other utilities especially for our um, the high

in the high voltage classifications, um, and we have been working with hrs and hr to address uh, some of the compensation, um, differences between ourselves and pg and e, for example, um, and, and have had some success in the last, uh, um, negotiations where our labor and, and management came to agreement on making some salary adjustments, increases for the high voltage line worker class. uh, we also compete very much with the ccas, frankly, as well. you know, there are there are, um, community choices for the public. are cca are what that's the community choice. thank you. that's the community choice aggregation on programs like clean power sf that are operated in other cities and counties in the bay area and throughout california. there's now, i think, 26 operating, uh,

community choice aggregation programs in california. we have alumni. i like to think of them as alumni. um, uh, from our hetchy and clean power sf programs, working at six different community choice aggregation programs in california. now um, at all levels. you know, the director of san jose's community choice aggregation program is a former employee of ours. um communications data analysts. you know, any any of our, uh, skill sets, right, are attractive to these other departments, these other, um, uh, local government agencies, and they have, uh, very relaxed most of them have very relaxed, um, um, requirements for, for, you know, uh, work, work when they have to come into the office where they can live, that kind of stuff. yeah yeah. so it's a tough competition. uh, but we have a strong staff, uh,

and i think a very compelling message as we go out and recruit , uh, with the kind of growth and development we're seeing in our, in both of our programs. yes i do too, and i, i wish there was a, um, it just seems that people knew the savings that they, that they were reaping. and if we had a way of doing billboards or something saying, you know, every time something happens, pg and e has these great commercials and, you know, and so when you when you look at them, you think, oh my goodness, you know, and then you remember, oh, okay. that's what they did. but it seems to me there needs to be some way that we can do the, um, some outreach. you know, i mean, billboards are on the busses or on muni and, and telling people this is what you're saving. you know, this is what you are giving because you own this. and if there was some message, um, that we could give people not only power we need to do in

everything that we do, but, um, i, i just think it would it would really be a great story. and people would certainly appreciate whatever it is that they are doing, since it's their power. yes. well, i've given you the numbers. you're our spokespeople. but yes, i hear you. i hear you. it would. we have had my 15 people. okay. we need better. we have. in the past we have done, um, like you say, the muni um awareness campaign about about the program offerings we have. um, so we can continue to work with our, um, communications team and discuss what's appropriate. well, and what's appropriate it and maybe what's not appropriate. and then we can find out it's not appropriate later. but, i mean, i just it just seems that we, we, we have a great story. and you, you with 230 people have done amazing work, just amazing work. thank you, thank you,

thank you, thank you. um commissioner stacy. uh, just a couple of comments. in response to commissioner or because of commissioner maxwell's comments, it really seems so difficult to recruit these very specialized, used, um, position, especially when there's as much competition . and i actually have heard from some other managers of other, um, organized asians. they talk about how difficult it is and how competitive the field is. um, i also, i have to say, every time i see a pga commercial or a pga sponsorship, i think, well, that's why they cost more. and so i, i, i agree with commissioner maxwell that, that we really our story is compelling and um, important to get out there. i think we do

that. and i also acknowledge though that that kind of advertising and sponsorship can also itself be expensive. i have, um, just a detailed question on your charts, on pages 12 and 15, on, um, you have a category all other and i assume that's everything else in these divisions that doesn't. right as to the level of being sort of a line item, but i see growth in both hetch hetchy and clean power sf in. 2526 requests over the 23 for 25 request. it i'm guessing that some of the line items that show up in 2425 just have decreased in their amount. so now they they're showing up in all other but but there's a lot of other growth.

do you have any um details on on on on why that increase is happening or what might be some examples of everything else? sure. i'll let laura take care of that. good morning everyone. laura bush, deputy cfo. you're exactly right, that's all. kind of the miscellaneous things that didn't rise to a higher category either. a category that we know is driving the budget such as the power purchase costs or the colas on labor or the new proposals that miss hale is about to walk through. so that is things like, um, inflationary costs, um, small changes that didn't rise that weren't material enough to, um, you know, bring here and, um, i don't not exactly know what's driving that growth in the second year. we can certainly get back to you on that, but it's things like inflationary costs on things that were kind of put into the base budget, um, and kind of smaller changes throughout the budget. yeah. and i see that we've lost a couple of line items in that year,

which i assume end up in all other. sorry, i missed that one. we a couple of the line items that show up in the first fiscal year don't show up in the second fiscal year. so i assume they've been incorporated into all other because they're just a smaller line item. yeah, i think that's fair to say. and also, i think the primary driver on the change in the hetchy, all other was insurance costs, making adjustments for insurance costs. i see insurance as a line item for hetch hetchy. the risk management work order is that does that cover insurance costs. in the second year? yes. yes nancy hum, uh, chief financial officer in the risk management work order does cover the services from the city city administrator's office. risk management for their staff costs , inclusive of any premiums that we pay for our insurance policies. yeah yeah. thank you. thanks. thank you. jamie has a

question? yes one thing i want to say. maybe a follow up on, um, commissioner maxwell and some of the things i've mentioned in the other hearings we have had, which is maybe it is important for us to have a line item. it probably needs to go in the external affairs. since that's where our communication sits to, um, allocate more sort of directed risk sources into advertising. um, you know, i get a lot of calls from friends when they get their like, little page that says 92,000 tests every year on your water. right. and you know, imagine if that shows up on tv, right? or on people's twitter accounts or whatever it is called now or other places that people interact with. i think that is we should do that just

because, because and also the same way for the for our ca, for our clean power sf for, um, you know, the hetch hetchy power. i think we are learning more and more that communication is key in the way people sort of trust and believe in the services we provide to them. right and we need to make sure we are good at communicating, getting everything that we do. um, because if you have to raise rates, then we don't need to explain ourselves every time. if we are changing a service from here to there, we don't need to expand. like i think we need to be a lot more active in the process of communicating out. so i'm just maybe like i'm proposing, maybe we need to think about having a budget line item that is focused on better for communicating to public on everything. i think i agree with you. whenever i see these advertisements that, you know, pg and e talks about their, uh,

committed staff and how they always show up to, uh, you know, every situation that happens. i mean, we have the same thing. i, you know, we every day show up to emerge agencies that that come up and somebody has to film one of those and put it in a 32nd advertising in the middle of the warriors game and say, look, this is who we are. i think this is important. and i would i personally think we should actually dedicate or allocate budget to it just because we want to make sure we are not just this hidden service that people just hear about when we have a, you know, an emergency or something that's quite, um, uh, you know, disaster s so that's my personal proposal to thinking about the budget in a way that we can do that. i would just say commissioners that we agree with you. um with respect to communication. and we are

constantly, um, looking and evaluating the best ways to communicate our message in a very, very positive way. as you recall, when we were talking about we're just using an example rates. we had a very robust, um, campaign. so it is not something that we are unaware of. and we are constantly looking at the best ways to communicate to ensure that we are telling the, uh, puc , um, story in the most effective way. we have greatly expanded our social media outreach. uh, so it's something that we take seriously, seriously. and we've done internally and in terms of coordinating externally with, um, uh, consultants that we have had on board. so we're always looking at that and we'll continue because we think we agree that communicating in a positive way, all the good things that, um, the puc is doing is an important, um, tool. and we're looking at the best way to get to people balancing

it versus our, our, our costs. so we are, um, we agree with you on that. but my one thing i would say is my point here is not like doing it when we need to. it's doing it continuously. i agree with you. sort of like not when the drought hits, not when we have a rate increase, not when we have a challenge with x, y, and z. it's actually something that's reoccurring and constant is investing in this kind of communication. i mean, i , i can't speak for other commissioners, but i'm certainly willing to think about how we can dedicate resources to something more for, um, you know , continuous and recurring in that. thank you. commissioner yeah. and before you continue, too, i also would like to make a couple of add ons to what the commissioners have already said. i know that, um, the city and this commission have come a long

way in the last. i want to say, 15 to 25 years to come to the position where we are, where we have a proposal in, to take over the grid. and, and our position is, is that this should be our power. and that's, that's taken a long political, um, uh, journey and travels to get to that point. it's not been an easy road. and the fact that we are there right now, um, is, is very important. so i think two things come to my mind. one is has already been noted that we do without totally playing our hand. um, in terms of, you know, our power tactics and our legal tactics is that keeping the commissioners apprized of the what if questions that have been asked, you know, if we have this, how are these costs going to change? because not only just for pr but just for our own budgetary purposes, just knowing, you know, how much better we officially feel, but how much better we actually are going to see the cost containment that we have when we do get to that ultimate point of acquiring those, those resources

so that those are under the umbrella of the sfpuc and, you know, and part of that is, is that i know that, you know, it's actually been 100 years from now where this same where water, you know, went through this exact same thing, you know, the big ceremonies when, when the spring valley water company was finally incorporated into the san francisco public utilities commission, you know, big ceremonies and, you know, it was fighting the big boss then. and that is a history that we have here. also i, you know, sometime in my spare time, i'm going to look at a little bit more. what were the final pressure points that got, you know, the robber barons to frankly say, okay, let's just give it to the city. it's not worth it to us anymore. and because they are going to be putting it into the city government and we are going to be taking care of it. so keeping us apprized of all that stuff, the what if questions that other commissioners have asked is, i think is going to be important to us as we as we keep going. and i know you have been doing that, but you know, the

emphasis, i think you hear is acute from the other commissioners that we that we do take full charge of this both in the public airways as well as within the policy and the interchange that you your staff has with all the different agencies and commissions that you've already report on. so that being said, unless there's any other comments, um, miss hale, if we could just continue with the your proposals. thank you. so we're going to go on to specific operating requests now, um, these first two, um, uh, priorities are meeting new customer demands and resilience and climate change fall under our investing where it matters pillar. you'll see a number of items i'll address to speak to that and the financial stability and responsible management of our system maintenance and workforce. reducing vacancies, increasing retention. that's all part of our responsible management pillar. um power interacts. uh, speaking to the meeting, new customer demands,

uh pillar uh power interacts with development project sponsors as um as these areas are transformed, we have multiple projects concurrently underway. and each project has multiple phases of construction. the workload increases require more staff to meet customer needs and the skills needed to meet the needs should be aligned. we want to avoid precious engineer time for example, spent on more administrative or analytical tasks. uh, each project involves agreements to provide access, scheduling, administrative and analytical work, planning and engineering. many of these projects include affordable housing components and the city housing for all action plan includes improvement of existing buildings to meet affordable housing needs. some of these facilities are clean power sf customers. as we talked about, uh, many are also hetchy power customers. these all include populations that we provide extra support to on move in. i

talked about that a little bit already where we ensured that they're enrolled in our customer assistance program and receive assistance and understanding their electric bills. the proposals you see here, um, include non-personnel budget for software and services that will improve our efficiency and processing those those new customer requests. next, we have on the resilience and climate change pillar, energy efficiency and decarbonization investments, which are key part of our resilience and climate change actions. uh seeing growth in our customer base, including households with low income as we need to continue to implement the customer programs that you see listed here and develop more programs that continue to ensure low income customers are part of the clean energy future. for that, we support building and transportation electrification with programs tailored to our built environment and our customer needs. customers need

support to meet local, regional and state requirements. there i'm talking about, for example, the san francisco climate action plan. you know, it calls for 80% of trips taken in the city to be by low carbon modes such as electric vehicles and bikes. aggressive goals for increased personal vehicle electrification , uh, ambitious targets for all buildings to be zero emissions by 2040. the bay area air quality management district has adopted really impactful regulations on um, natural gas heating equipment in your homes, such as domestic hot water heaters and furnaces to affect buildings in san francisco starting in 2027. you know, at the state level, there's the california energy commission title 24 building codes. they've continued to challenge both new and existing building owners with requirements for more distributed generation and higher efficiency building systems. the california air resources board clean fleet regulations require all new vehicle purchases to be clean

fueled without effective utility program support on a larger scale than what is offered today, it will be difficult for our customers, especially low income and historically underserved customers, to meet these goals and requirements. uh, the position requests that you see here are temporary to permanent conversions. charging to projects. the non-personnel budget funds, those positions that i just mentioned that are charging to the project, and incentive fees paid and services provided to customers, professional services as well to support development and delivery of the programs. as both our hetchy and clean power sf programs grow, we face increased complexity in the work we do, incorporating new technology onto the grid like battery storage, which increases the complexity of the california independent system operator

requirements for power scheduling, time of use rates is another example. the requirements increase meter data management, billing and rate making complexity. the new california puc requirements for clean power sf to procure capacity to meet hourly requirements, increase the complexity of our load forecasting our purchase and sales planning and implementation, and payment processing. the positions that you see on this slide are a mix of temporary to permanent conversions. substitute and new. the non personnel budget funds, software and consultant support to make system improvements for efficiency to meet the regulatory requirements under the responsible management of systems and maintenance pillar. our first request um support its maintenance and repair of our growing asset base. we have new physical distribution infrastructure. we need to keep pace with mapping and recording that infrastructure. both what

we install with our own crews and what the redevelopment projects hand over to us. we need to develop an outage management system for the hetchy customer base, as our residential and commercial customer base grows, we need to have the engineering staff to support operations and maintenance and improvement of the facility, and the engineers need software for memberships and licenses to support their work. so that's what you see captured here in these proposals . under the workforce, reducing vacancies and increasing retention pillar an ongoing theme you have heard throughout these hearings is retention on power gets great support from the external affairs community team and the business services customer service bureau. i do want to call out in particular for the customer, excuse me, the communications team, as we just discussed, embedded in our budget here, is support for the positions and um, professional services dollars. we need to keep these folks. they directly

engage with our customers. they're the face and voice of our programs, particularly for clean power sf uh, we need to support stability and consistency in marketing and education and outreach. we need to support our communication goals to reach our underserved and neglected communities, to ensure those population groups are included in the state's clean energy transition. and that's what these funding requests and position requests go toward. and we need to retain our origination and power supply staff as well, who are focused on long terme solicitations, integrated resource planning and regulatory compliance science. so that's the workforce. other major operating requests. um, our final operating request slide here is uh to support non personnel needs. we need to fund the charter required rate study and financial planning team that the financial planning team will manage. and we need to fund

insurance for power assets that are managed by my team. and the hetch hetchy water and power division that was a quick run through on my operating requests. any questions before i move on to capital? seeing none, let's keep going very good. we have some new hetchy projects. oh. excuse me. um. um, michelle, i want to go to back to slide 22 and 23. yes um, so on the resilience and climate change, um, you sort of touched on it, but i think maybe we need to outline that a little bit more there. obviously the challenges of, of extreme heat reducing power or reducing flow, like all those things are going to sort of adapting to climate change versus mitigating climate change. and what they see here is a lot of it is focused on mitigation. i'm not sure where

your adaptation plan is sort of plays in, and i would say cost of insurance is one one of those elements that are impacting a lot of utilities is, um, due to adapting to the unforeseen events that are happening right from wildfires to, uh, you know, every other thing that is happening, uh, due to climate change. so i didn't see it here. i'm wondering if this is something that you're categorized, doing it under different categories, because i saw insurances in the last slide obviously. right. but it would be good to sort of maybe this goes back to my earlier comment from the last couple sessions or meetings we have had, which is sort of falls under that climate change piece, sort of impacts every single one of these pillars. and um, obviously mitigation matters and i'm very excited to see all this, but adaptation is going to be very much driving our operational costs right? so that's one thing

i'm happy to hear. if you have any comments. yes. i think, um, much of the adaptation work is in i think is in how we construct right, right. um, how we anticipate, um, what will need to change in our built environment. right. so you'll, you we do that in our design, um, efforts. right? as we, as we construct, um, we're also, um, very engaged with the, the resiliency work within capital planning. right which is very climate focused and as has the city adapting to a new world. um, and we're also going to need to, uh, adapt in the on the power side in what we anticipate will be available to us in terms of generation. yep um, and we talked about that when, when we presented our integrated resource plans. um, so i think, i think that's where you see power adaptation happening,

going, um, we're not in this budget requesting any, um, financial support in addition to what we already do for those, um, to accomplish those, those forms of adaptation. um, but we are, with respect to mitigation, and that's what you see, um, presented and maybe my i would like to encourage you, as i encouraged others to think about like how much of these efforts that you're asking for is indirectly or directly is going into adaptation because, for example, your financial sustainability very much hinges on adaptation, load management, load forecasting. um, you know, all of that has climbed, it's directly feeding into it. right? um, right. just not just iterates. it changes. exactly. so it's not just, uh, building frastructure, it's also soft infrastructure you need to add to manage the vitality or

experiencing in system. and i think again, going back to the discussion and also your workforce stuff, all i mean i think it's crazy. it's everywhere. it's everywhere. yeah. and it's not just to make it this huge thing to deal with. it's the fact that you're doing it right now. you need to plan for it. right. and how do we sort of make sure we pull it out and make sure it is accounted for in the right way? and also, as i mentioned the other day, and you and i have had this conversation, it's like there are potentially opportunities for the power of wastewater and water to collaborate around adaptation. an so there are those opportunities, lies and how can you use your budget in, in sort of making that transition happen? right. so the whole like cross pollination that we constantly talk about and not just, uh, in building but also in operate ing. right. um so just wanted to highlight

that, um, so yeah. and i'm hearing you, i'm really hearing you make a call for an intentional city. yes. rather than letting this kind of creep up on us, let's be intentional. i think. i think we're hearing you, and especially on i mean, the insurance piece is going to become a serious problem, right? we are just seeing the change and the transition in the insurance market, the reinsurance market, and how they're sort of quickly adapting to what comes down the pipeline. and we are the receiver of whatever they are going to pick up. right, right. so what how is that going to impact our bottom line operational costs? uh, construction costs, i mean, everything. um, so, yes. so that intentionality is really something i, i'm really hoping for as we are thinking about our budget and what we need and what we are doing on a daily basis. okay. thank you, commissioner

maxwell. i would just like to thank commissioner jamie. i think that's that's really great . and it really makes a lot of sense thinking about adaptation and you talked about employees and people that were going to have to have it seems like the case then could maybe come together to look at different kind of classification, work with the state, work with other i mean, we're surrounded by some of the greatest institutions of learning in the world and in the country. so maybe they could come up with some idea of what you all, how you all could work together and maybe have a different kind of class action. yeah, i would say that the community choice community is really, um, supportive of each other. and so that coming together happens routinely. uh one of the more recent topics was, um, right on point to what you're talking about,

commissioner. and that is forming an air team. across the ccas where we can share information, understand nd, um, each other's approaches to job classes, to compensation, to understanding what the um, um, work performance environment is like, uh, to help us understand where we can distinguish ourselves in the recruiting conversations, to understand where we can amplify, um, the opportunity. right. because not everyone, you know, i've been with the city a long time, and i was with the state a long time before that. not everyone wants a job at the same place for a long time. they like the opportunity to move around. so knowing that you can market it as you know, come work with us. you know that there are other opportunities. you get to stay in the community because it's they're all so proximate to each other, trying to look at ways to kind of leverage the opportunity

and not just take it as a competition. right. well, i'm also thinking, though, it's not just the people that are already educated and already know how to do this, but you have an opportunity then to go to community colleges to set up a program so you know that together, either because there's a volume of people that are going to need these folks. and i mean, i would even think our own city college may may be a place where we could go and consider talking to people and educators and how we could come up with with something. yeah, that's a great idea. thank you for that. okay let's continue capital. okay let's move on with capital. all so we have some new hetchy projects, um, mostly expansion of distribution networks driven by customer and partner needs for increased electrification and growth in municipal agencies . um also include adding areas of strategic investment for

revenue growth through key projects with major scope um, increase for customer growth are also included in my capital requests. and then the clean power sf capital plan is much more modest with program aims shifting to the operating budget , and it's focused on local clean energy. so the hetchy capital plan, $1.2 billion. uh let's see. am i i'm a little off . sorry um, here's a summary of the numbers. uh, we are seeing growth in demand for service, and that means new facilities growth in our capital needs. right. you see the summary of key projects on the right here that are driving this growth, both, uh, and here is the criteria that we recommend for the projects that we recommend, uh, be funded. we went through all of the proposals from staff asking these questions of

ourselves. does the project increase net new revenue? does the project address the city's climate action and equity goals? um, is the project necessary to serve customers? um, have we made commitments already with customers that we need to fulfill and are we ready? have we got everything lined up in terms of design and contracts? if there are any that are needed ? uh, so those are the questions we asked ourselves to determine which among the proposals should be brought to you. and here's how the projects fit within the pillars as we go through the proposals, you'll see each is flagged to the pillar. um and then let's go ahead and talk about our major investments. this package of projects is the largest category, the biggest driver of the requested increase in hetchy power capital plan. uniquely, these projects will be

delivered in partnership with customers. so for example, you have approved as a commission memorandums of understanding, ending, outlining the roles the puc staff and sfo staff will perform to deliver improvements to the substations that we own and operate to serve sfo. um, we're not relying on our infrastructure team internally. rather, it's the customer and ourselves working on that project. the timing of these projects is also governed by customer needs. so this, um, funding position is us to be responsive to customer needs. the new load behind these projects means we'll be able to spread fixed operating costs among a larger base, which can dampen upward pressure on rates for all customers. so now i'll address each of the three in a little more detail. so the sfo substation improvements. this project has been in the capital

plan already. the scope has changed and the investment needed has increased. sfo has very aggressive plans to electrify and decarbonize, decarbonize, excuse me, its operations and provide more vehicle charging services to airport patrons. our substation capacity has to be increased to serve these growing needs. uh, sfo and is heche's largest customer today. we really need to keep pace with their needs. that's important to us. so that's that project. then we have the carbon free steam project next. uh, this is a new proposed investment for hetch power for and just by way of background, since this is a new one, i want to spend a little bit more time on it. um, for, for decades here in san francisco, many historic and downtown buildings and the civic center buildings have been heated with steam, uh, new buildings have also been added to the system over the years. an

example of that would be, um, the federal building on seventh, uh, the city has both a customer and an overseer, uh, role of sorts for the system. uh and in particular, there, you know, the steam is created at two locations, owens and distributed through a district, uh, heating piping system. the owner operator of the system is cordia. they have a franchise agreement with san francisco. so they are a franchised utility here in san francisco. and they are a for profit utility regulated by the california puc. so several city facilities and civic center, including this hearing room, is a steam customer. and hetchy power and our puc audits team collab rate with the comptroller's office to review the franchise fee remittances from cordia. so over the years, this is just by way of saying we've had kind of a regulatory role as well as a

customer role, um, with, with the steam loop operate hours. so that's our current relationship, right? with this project, we become partners with cordia to convert the steam manufacture process from natural gas fueled to electricity. cordia would become a hetchy power customer. decarbonizing the steam manufacture process. san francisco's climate action plan identifies decarbonizing the steam process as a high priority for san francisco. so we see this as in alignment with our policy makers. the project allows all district heating customers, was connected to the system to decarbonize their buildings. it's a much more cost effective, feasible approach than electrifying heating at each of those buildings. so the project would fund the work to plan, design and build hetchy power's share of the transmission connection from pg and e substation to cordia steam plant downtown town, where step town facility and connection to

the plant would be constructed. um. details on the responsibilities the puc will take on and those cordia will take on to complete the work are being discussed and like we did with our sfo relationship, i expect we will bring that, um, set of responsibilities as that commitment to this commission. um, once we resolve how we want to handle it, once we're ready, um, i think the bottom line here is that cordia plans to electrify. we want hetchy power to be the provider. we think it's good for all of our customers. there are high load factor customer. they'll be bringing in more revenue. um, we're also evaluating opportunities to serve nearby customers from the facilities that we construct. so that's the clean steam project, the downtown ferry and south beach electrification project. so ferries are among the forms of transport that are required by

the state to transition to zero emission. the port of san francisco is expects over 80mw of additional load due to electrification at the port. that's not just ferries, that's overall for the port. uh, this new project in the hetchy capital plan would fund transmission infrastructure to serve the ferry electrification and future port electric load growth. the port and the water emergency transportation authority are our partners in delivering this project. we have been and will continue to work together to plan and design the needed facilities. and with this funding, we will finalize design and fund our share of the construction of the facilities needed to meet the increased electric load. our next package of projects we have a need for funding adjustments to this collection of projects that are noted on the on the screen here,

um, funded already in the current hetchy plan. rick call that intervening facilities funds power work on connection of discrete projects to the pge owned grid. uh grid connections funds are used to design and build the connection of customers to puc owned distribution facilities and the affordable housing and project will be used to plan for grid connection for affordable housing projects. next up, we have redevelopment as the city renews and revitalizes projects. excuse me? properties through the development process, new electrical facilities are designed and built to hetchy power specifications. a portion of the system is built by the developer and handed over to us for ongoing operation, and a portion is built by us. this

project funds the planning, design and construction of the electric duct banks for the 12 kv distribution systems to serve various developments. these are the. these are the big developments like like those you see listed here. right. and again in this role we need to keep pace with the developer and meet the overall project needs for temporary construction power as well as permanent electric facilities that will serve the vertical development. next up, reliability and continuity of operations. you know, as you know, at its core, response management of an electric utility means safe and reliable service. with this funding, hetchy power will plan design and construct on electrical line to route power around portions of the bay corridor transmission and distribution system that's under construction. so power can continue to flow when that portion me needs maintenance. uh

perform repairs when needed and replace existing electric distribution equipment. we would implement improvements through this funding on the treasure island switchyard to remotely monitor its performance and to build generator connections to the switchyard for tie to served electric customers. next up we have streetlight repair and enhancement. so as you know, hetchy power is responsible for the operation and maintenance of the streetlights that we own. that's about 25,500 here in the city. uh, these funds cover everything from simple outages and minor repairs. was converting decorative pole lamps to more efficient led. the light emitting diode technology, um, neighbor or community identified areas of need of street and pedestrian lighting improvements to achieve safer and more pedestrian friendly streets. uh

we perform pole assessment and rehabilitation with these funds and work supporting the use of streetlight poles by telecommunications carriers. so that's the package of streetlight repair and enhancement activities that would be funded with this item. next up, we have the public power expansion project. we talked about this a little bit, um, earlier. we continue to work on the city goal to acquire the pge owned grid serving san francisco. this project was identified in 2019 and has been in the capital plan since. the city and pge have, as you know, frequently had disagreed regarding whether pge or the city is entitled to serve specific customers and whether pge terms of service are reasonable. we pay pge about $28 million a year to distribute power to our hetchy power customers. this cost is an operating cost factored into the rates we charge hatchee power customers for electric service. the terms pge imposes include

oversize electrical equipment and the process pge controls for connection to the grid causes delays in city projects getting built, delay in city services being provided like affordable housing, updating schools and health clinics, and achieving the city's climate action goals. you know, but but for the public, i'll remind everyone that, you know, mayor breed had asked us to prepare a report on the options for providing safe, reliable, affordable service to san franciscans, which we did in may of 2019 when, um, she and then city attorney herrera set sent an indicative offer to pge to purchase their san francisco electric facility for $2.5 billion. please response said the assets are not for sale and the price is too low. so to get at that, the price is too low. point together with the city attorney, we have petitioned the california puc, pge regulator to set a value on the pge assets,

and we are working with san francisco planning as they prepare an environmental impact report in compliance with the california environmental quality act. on the project that this capital project act funds these planning activities for expanding our hetchy public power service to all san francisco residents and businesses. so that all may receive more clean, reliable, accountable, equitable, affordable power service aligned with san francisco values. the final project i want to present to you today continues hetchy power planning development and construction of rooftop solar and other technologies at municipal facilities. it also finds funds, the planning, development and direct installation of energy efficiency improvements at municipal facilities. these two projects account for 40 million

in the ten year capital plan, and funding is sourced from hetchy customers. revenues as well as low carbon fuel standard credit sales revenues and cap and trade revenues for clean power. sf it funds the planning, development and construction of larger scale renewable and battery storage facilities at select sites. water and power staff are currently collaborate on solar facility development at water reservoirs here in san francisco, so the clean power sf ten year capital plan totals 48 million and is funded by clean power sf ratepayer revenues. as we are evaluating these programs, both the hetchy and clean power sf programs for federal and state grant and load program dollars. and if we are successful in achieving them, they will offset the revenue contribution. as i'm talking about today. that concludes my capital request. and that's my overview for hetchy and clean power sf. i'm happy to take any

questions you may have on the capital. well, thanks. and i think we do have some questions on capital. i will start it off with a couple. one in terms of the steam and the cordia project. yes. um, which is, you know, you know, raised as, um, you know, questions. this is a vended. i mean, this is a, a, a vendor that that we have hired. um, the city has hired, um, to do this stuff. so i have a couple of questions about, you know, what their independence and how how connected they are with doing our work. um, for example, do they own any of the land or any of the equipment that is just their proprietary stuff that if for some reason, this relationship stopped, they, you know, we would be on the hook for, you know, not having a place to do certain things or, you know, any equipment that we would therefore have to do and this is sort of like a mini, mini, mini pga type of a question, i guess is like, you know, what is this relationship with cordia for steam? and i

know you're coming back to us. so i'm not asking for a full presentation, but maybe just a sort of an idea of you know, what their relationship with us with us is, which, um, good, bad or ugly? i assume it's on the good side, for starters. yeah i think these are good questions, right? i mean, i described our historic relationship, our the city's historic relationship with cordia, uh, the puc historic relationship is sort of that overseer role. i talked about that we do with our audit team and the comptroller office. um, what we're talking about, if we're successful in the clean steam project, is ultimately they would be our customer, right? in order for them to be our customer, we have to construct facilities to them. and those facilities, those electrical facilities would land on their property. um, we would have a point of connection between them that would separate what we own and what they own. so if they like any customer, if they went belly up, um, then we

would still have those facilities. and whoever occupied the site after they leave would be our new customer. so they do own land for their where their facilities are here. yes. yes. okay and then they have the franchise agreement that allows them to have the piping system in the public rights of way. got it. and we'll look forward to hearing you know, you coming back with that later. so okay. um, on that particular question and i don't know if anybody has follow ups on that. and then i had a question. i think all of us, you know, you know, if there's a 1.1 earthquake in paterson, you know, we hear it at 4 a.m. in the morning. so we get all these. and now with the rain, you know, we're getting them left and right. and it's a wonderful, you know, resource for us as commissioners to, you know, see what you guys have your fingers on and what's going on around town. um, the one that is probably the most disturbing to me personally is the ones that come in for treasure island . powers on the powers out, the powers on the powers out. now we know it's this is a redevelopment area, and it's very complex. and they're

building a whole new city out there. maybe just a quick update on the timeline when, when do the customers out there finally have some type of semblance where their power isn't going out in the middle of their thanksgiving dinner? that's the thing that hits us at least me the most. you know, it's on, it's off, it's on, it's off. and i've heard complaints about that in general. you know, blaming everybody on earth as people that don't lose their power have. can you give me a little timeline about, you know, where that final correction is going to be? so we're not hearing about the power's out on treasure island. just a quick summary of that, please. yes. so questions so the, um, a little bit for the members of the public who may be listening, a little background recall that, uh, when san francisco took ownership or began to take ownership of treasure island and yerba buena island from the federal government, uh, it formed the treasure island development authority to receive

that those assets receive that that property, um, and we water, power and sewer all act as a contractor to tida to provide service to the legacy um customers on treasure island. and we now have, in addition to legacy customers where titus sets the rates for water, power and sewer services and has the customer relationship, we now have new customers with the new buildings coming online. um, so the for example, the bristol, um, a, a um, a mixed, uh, income , um, um, uh, apartment tower. we have also masaomi, uh, veterans housing that's um, has is, uh, occupancy now, uh, those new buildings are on the new parts of the system that have already been redeveloped. so we

are serving those customers as hetchy power customers. uh tida. no longer has a customer relationship with those, um, those those, um, buildings on on treasure island. um we are through this budget proposal proposing to connect the legacy customers, uh, distribute system to the new switchgear that serves the new customers. i just described. and that should improve, um, reliability for the legacy customers. um, the overall tida development timeline line. um. you know, it's getting more certain, uh, but it is an extended timeline for overall development. uh, we can we can, um, consult with tida and give you a, an accurate. you know, snapshot of where they think, what they think the timeline is. uh, but i

will say to you that given our shared concern about outages for legacy customers, the request we have here to implement improvements to, to remotely monitor the performance of that switchyard and to build generator connections and to connect the tie to served electric customers to that new switchyard should improve their overall reliability during that extended development period that they're facing. so you asked me for a timeline. i clearly did not give you a timeline on because i don't know it. and frankly, every time i've been given a timeline over the years, it seems to get extended. so um, i'm going to loop back with the tie to folks and we can respond with a timeline and writing to you for follow up. but i, i do want to assure you that if you approve of the funding we're requesting here, i expect there to be improved. but yes, that

was um, i think you've answered as well as you could. i know there's not a final, final answer, but it's it definitely is a concern into the in the community. those are my only questions. thank you. uh, commissioner jamie. miss hill, i actually wanted to go, um, to slide 33 on the cordia, uh, project. i've been actually meaning to ask you this, um, and i saw it in the budget. um, slide. so i waited for the past couple of weeks, uh, to have this conversation with you. so on the source of steam, um, you know, obviously, you know, some of the, uh, european countries do have these district heating and generally they use it for both heating and cooling. so so the same they use water and the water is used for heating and then goes the you know, the cooled water goes back to cool down there. um uh, facilities

that requires cooling down. and then the same heat then is used again and again. um, so my question for you is as you're talking about us decarbonizing, using electricity to, um, provide died that steam. i'm wondering if there's there are other extra sources of steam around that we can repurpose for this rather than actually generating that steam ourselves. i'm thinking, um, i don't know where the entry point to this system is. so that obviously matters. um but do we have, for example, steam coming out of i don't know, our new wastewater treatment plant that, um, it's going to, to, um, be operated, uh, in the east side soon or other places that we have steam coming out, or can this be repurposed by, um, using and repurposing water that we have and do the same thing? do both

cooling and heating partially because that reduces the amount of electric city that we use. um, it sort of creates this circular system that is not necessarily as demanding. and frankly, it's going to meet our decarbonization goals much faster and easier than just saying, oh, we're and whatever solar energy or, uh, renewable energy that we needed to use to, um, create this steam can be repurposed for other things. right so, um, so i don't know what the relationship with cordia exactly, um, entails. and i know you're talking to them and they're franchising and potentially will be working with them to evolve this relationship. i'm wondering, as part of that evolution, we can look into other ways of doing this. um, so this may actually partially feed into the request you are having here. um, but i would love to see if we can look into that a little bit more for

sure. i'd be happy to have the conversation with the cordia folks. i want to be clear that we are not. we would not be in the business of manufacturing the steam. we would be providing a different fuel source for them to be in that business, continue in that business. so i just want to make sure we're clear on the different roles. yes. um, but we can certainly talk to them about the, the ideas that you're offering here. i don't i don't know, i know that some of our customers have of thermal demands. um, but i believe they provide for their thermal demands on site. um, and i think they're too far away from the existing steam loop to, um, to do anything other than that. um, but we can certainly look at, at opportunities. the um, the decarbonize option requirements that are coming from the state and the city, um, may provide other opportunities. and, and we should be looking at that. and they should have a business interest in that. so there may

be a nice sweet spot there. and that's exactly what i'm hoping like that. would this would sort of trigger those conversations. and then you can build something that's a little bit even more sustainable. and um, you know, environment forward looking. yes yes. gotcha. so i would appreciate that. thank you. um commissioner maxwell, thank you. could you explain franchise agreement? when i think of franchise, i think of mcdonald's. so you know, like a franchise. so could you explain that a little bit, please? um, yes. as a non-lawyer, i can give you the non-lawyer answer. that probably would be better. um, so the, um, utilities for profit utilities that use the public rights of way, um, in order to have access to the public rights of way, have, have over time struck in this stricken a relationship with their the city in which they operate. so for san francisco we have a franchise agreement with pge electric a franchise agreement

with pge and gas, a franchise agreement with the steam loop operator cordia. this allows the operator to use the public rights of way for their facilities. uh, in consideration of that, they remit revenue to the city and in the case of pg and e are obligated to move their facilities when they are in the way of a city project, act. i see yes, please. okay i want to add one clarification. the entity that provides the franchise is the city and county of san francisco. so it's the board of supervisor who passes an ordinance and gives that franchise. and they last in until they get, um, um, terminated. so so the provision

and the remittance, um, go, go between the city and the franchise is not between the puc . mm. oh, i see yes. thank you. yeah okay. thank you. and, um okay. that's good. thank you. can i ask you a question? so does that mean then the revenue goes to the city? yes and the role that we play together with the audit team, um, is to help the comptroller's office with that math, right? because because for on the pg and e side , we know how much, um, we have used of pg and e services and what portion of the services, uh, remittances are due to the transactions we have with pg and e, and then we assist them in looking at the electric bill contributions as kind of a sniff test type of a of assessment from the power staff. okay, i

have a question, but i'm going to ask it later. but thank you. okay so when we franchise is what are some of the um uh, what do we look at when we charge. what are some of the reasons why we charge whatever it is we charge them, you know, what's our fee structure, i guess. yeah. so this this goes to what, um, mr. flynn was speaking to, which is the puc isn't doing the franchise in the city. is right? yes um, and typically, i think cities is recognize that there is a service that the that residents and businesses would benefit from. and then they decide, okay, is this a good counterparty to provide that service. typically they are services that require large investment in infrastructure that ends up inhe public right of way where you don't want, you know, like competing systems in the same public right of way. lots of pipes. right? yeah. um, so it makes sense for a monopoly

service provider, a regulated monopoly, like pg or like cordia. cordia is the only steam loop operator in san francisco. they're the only franchisee for that service. so when the city. so you say that the city does charge them a fee. the city i wouldn't call it. i guess i wouldn't call it a fee. it's a it's a cut out, right. it's typically a cut of the revenues that the, that the franchisee would be getting. so we share in the revenues. we share in the revenues, the city shares in the revenues. correct okay. thank you. you had a follow up, commissioner. okay so no other comments on capital. where are we at? we are finished with my presentation. i thank you very much for the attention for the feedback. uh that concludes my presentation. okay. well, thank you very much, miss hale. um, as

we have the fourth of our meetings, let us open this up to a public comment. i just wanted to say yes. it's okay that this was really good. i really appreciate it. and all the work. um, all of you have been great. and we, um, you know, i know our job, i feel, is to. we're supposed to scrutinize and look at things, but you all are really. we have a premium service here, and you all are part of that. so thank you. thank you. and i and i would be remiss if i did not call out, give a shout out to michael clark, who is my budget lead in power. made all those presentation materials look look useful and helpful to you. so thank you, michael. thank you. all right. and i think all of us , uh, would be remiss in as chair, i'd like to say just not just barbara hale and your team, but, you know, all all, all four different presentations that we've had have just been you can you can see how much work went in and how thorough it was. and

as i've said, uh, you know, if there's anything that, uh, somebody had to pick up during the course of the year to follow the san francisco public utilities commission, it's this, this budget hearing where you really not only get to look at the budgets, but you actually get to see what the heck does everybody actually do to make this city work the way it is? and this has been a very enlightening, not just to me and the but i would hope to everybody that's listening. so again, i want to thank you, commissioner jaime. i just want to acknowledge i really appreciated those yellow, um, box pieces on top of each one of those capital projects that said, this is very belongs. so i acknowledge that i personally very much appreciate it. the way this was organized. thank you. and for your presentation and everybody's hard work. any other , um, comments or questions before we go to public comment? just one last item. yes. um, commissioners, thank you for your comments. um,

commissioners. and just so you know, you obviously have had the presentation that we made, there are a number of comments that you've made, um, some of which are longer terms, some of which are shorter terms, but we have made notations of those about how we can incorporate some of your, your, your, your, your comments and questions as to, to how we do business. so i appreciate them. um, and there were a couple of things that in terms of our next presentation, when the budget comes that we're going to try and incorporate into our, our, our budget planning document for, for you to when you when you consider this for approval. so thank you. final okay. thank you mr. herrera. okay. um, donna, let's open this up to public comment. do we have any members of the public present to provide comment on item number four? seeing none. seeing none. and were there any, um, folks that said they were going to call in

and made those? no arrangements. there are none. so that being said, we will, um, uh, i will say that we are now adjourned and thank you, everybody, and look forward to seeing everybody next tuesday. and at the or no. two weeks, two weeks a week from tuesday is our next regularly scheduled meeting. thank you

>> who doesn't love cable cars?

charging emissions and we're free which we're proud of you know, it's not much free left in the world anymore so we managed to do that through donations and through our gift shops. you got a real look and real appreciation of what early transit systems are like. this was the transit of the day from about 1875 to about 1893 or later, you know. cable car museum is free, come on in. take a day. come down. rediscover the city. you can spend as time you want and you don't have to make reservations and it's important to be free because we want them to develop a love for cable cars so they do continue to support whether they live here or other places and people come in and say, yes, i have passed by and heard of this and never come in and they always enjoy themselves. people love cable cars and there's none left in the world so if you want to ride a cable car, you've got to come to san francisco. that

what makes the city. without the cable cars, you lose part of that, you know, because people who come here and they love it and they love the history ask they can ride a cable car that has been running since 1888 or 1889. wow! that's something. can't do that with other historical museums. rarely, have i run into anybody from outside who didn't come in and didn't feel better from knowing something about the city. it's a true experience you'll remember. i hope they walk away with a greater appreciation for the history, with the mechanics with people are fascinated by the winding machine and i hope the appreciation, which is a part of our mission and these young kids will appreciate cable cars and the ones who live here and other places, they can make sure there will always be cable cars in san francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. it's the heartbeat of san francisco that founded the cable and the slot and without the cable cars,

yeah, we would lose something in san francisco. we would lose part of its heart and soul. it wouldn't be san francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing] >> the bicycle coalition was giving away 33 bicycles so i applied. i was happy to receive one of them. >> the community bike build program is the san francisco coalition's way of spreading the joy of biking and freedom of biking to residents who may not

have access to affordable transportation. the city has an ordinance that we worked with them on back in 2014 that requires city agency goes to give organizations like the san francisco bicycle organization a chance to take bicycles abandoned and put them to good use or find new homes for them. the partnerships with organizations generally with organizations that are working with low income individuals or families or people who are transportation dependent. we ask them to identify individuals who would greatly benefit from a bicycle. we make a list of people and their heights to match them to a bicycle that would suit their lifestyle and age and height. >> bicycle i received has impacted my life so greatly. it is not only a form of recreation. it is also a means of getting

connected with the community through bike rides and it is also just a feeling of freedom. i really appreciate it. i am very thankful. >> we teach a class. they have to attend a one hour class. things like how to change lanes, how to make a left turn, right turn, how to ride around cars. after that class, then we would give everyone a test chance -- chance to test ride. >> we are giving them as a way to get around the city. >> just the joy of like seeing people test drive the bicycles in the small area, there is no real word. i guess enjoyable is a word i could use. that doesn't describe the kind

of warm feelings you feel in your heart giving someone that sense of freedom and maybe they haven't ridden a bike in years. these folks are older than the normal crowd of people we give bicycles away to. take my picture on my bike. that was a great experience.the. the recipients, myself, supervisor, everyone was happy to be a part of this joyous occasion. at the end we normally do a group ride to see people ride off with these huge smiles on their faces is a great experience. >> if someone is interested in volunteering, we have a special section on the website sf bike.org/volunteer you can sign up for both events. we have given away 855 bicycles,

376 last year. we are growing each and every year. i hope to top that 376 this year. we frequently do events in bayview. the spaces are for people to come and work on their own bikes or learn skills and give them access to something that they may not have had access to. >> for me this is a fun way to get outside and be active. most of the time the kids will be in the house. this is a fun way to do something. >> you get fresh air and you don't just stay in the house all day. it is a good way to exercise. >> the bicycle coalition has a bicycle program for every community in san francisco. it is connecting the young, older community. it is a wonderful outlet for the

community to come together to have some good clean fun. it has opened to many doors to the young people that will usually might not have a bicycle. i have seen them and they are thankful and i am thankful for this program. shop and dine in the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges residents to do their shopping and dining within the 49 square miles of san francisco. by supporting local services within our neighborhoods, we help san francisco remain unique, successful, and vibrant. so where will you shop and dine in the 49? >> my name is ray behr. i am the owner of chief plus. it's a destination specialty foods store, and it's also a

corner grocery store, as well. we call it cheese plus because there's a lot of additions in addition to cheese here. from fresh flowers, to wine, past a, chocolate, our dining area and espresso bar. you can have a casual meeting if you want to. it's a real community gathering place. what makes little polk unique, i think, first of all, it's a great pedestrian street. there's people out and about all day, meeting this neighbor and coming out and supporting the businesses. the businesses here are almost all exclusively independent owned small businesses. it harkens back to supporting local. polk street doesn't look like anywhere u.s.a. it has its own businesses and personality. we have clothing stores to gallerys, to personal service

stores, where you can get your hsus repaired, luggage repaired. there's a music studio across the street. it's raily a diverse and unique offering on this really great street. i think san franciscans should shop local as much as they can because they can discover things that they may not be familiar with. again, the marketplace is changing, and, you know, you look at a screen, and you click a mouse, and you order something, and it shows up, but to have a tangible experience, to be able to come in to taste things, to see things, to smell things, all those things, it's very important that you do so.

>> [inaudible] i'm a illustrator by day and a [inaudible] composition teacher. right now i'm practice by

transscribing [inaudible] that is what i have been doing the past couple years, teaching myself. california college of the arts, illustration there has really great teachers. robert hunt, vance story taught me a lot. what i'm working on is a portfolio [inaudible] riding a donkey unicorn in the process. >> my name is dawn richardson and musician, drummer and drum teacher. i guess i would say i started my professional path quh i started playing in bands and teaching drum lesson when i was in college. they were definitely not that many women that would do what is doing. in 198 8 i graduated from cal state los ang and studied

mostly classical percussion and music education but at the same time i was in hollywood so played at night in rock bands so was doing two different things. >> the reason i'm [inaudible] the people. there is a extremely vibrant art community especially arounds the red poppy art house [inaudible] as a artist in the past 2 or 3 years there is a event called the [inaudible] every 3 months a free art music festival that i usually play at and just met so many people. >> i was teaching a little bit and doing odd jobs like waitressing and going at night and playing in bands and meeting a lot of people. i chss in ban that had cool break jz get parts on tv shows or things like that.

a friend of mine, we had mutual friends that got signed to a record deal in san francisco called 4 nonblaunds and i addition frd the bands and moved to the bay area. i think things are different now than 30 years ago, the world evolved a lot. it could be a challenge but have to know how to negotiate everything and sometimeatize is [inaudible] it was great to get to a point where i was just treated like another one of the people, a musician not a female musician and that is always what [inaudible] >> you don't hear stuff on the radio [inaudible] i need to write music [inaudible] be more conscious in their decisions and somehow make that

poetic so they will be convinced. i think i will do that. [singing in backgrounds] drawing and writing music since i was a really little kid and fortunate enough to have a good education in art and parentss who supported me. i hope my life will continue to allow me to do both. >> for me now having all male, female girls, boys students it shows the world has changed a lot and people areope toon open to a lot more than they were in the past. you can get a deep satisfaction from responding a lot of year practicing in one thing and becoming really good at something. sometimes i think that it is better to get lost. you have to practice and become good at what you do, so if you have everything together then go out in

the world and do what you do and then i think people weal accept that. >> hi today we have a special edition of building san francisco, stay safe, what we are going to be talking about san francisco's earth quakes, what you can do before an earthquake in your home, to be ready and after an earthquake to make sure that you are comfortable staying at home, while the city recovers. ♪♪

>> the next episode of stay safe, we have alicia johnson from san francisco's department of emergency management. hi, alicia thanks to coming >> it is a pleasure to be here with you. >> i wonder if you could tell us what you think people can do to get ready for what we know is a coming earthquake in san francisco. >> well, one of the most things that people can do is to make sure that you have a plan to communicate with people who live both in and out of state. having an out of state contact, to call, text or post on your social network is really important and being able to know how you are going to communicate with your friends, and family who live near you, where you might meet them if your home is uninhab hitable. >> how long do you think that it will be before things are restored to normal in san francisco. >> it depends on the severity of the earthquake, we say to provide for 72 hours tha, is three days, and it helps to

know that you might be without services for up to or more, depending on how heavy the shaking is and how many after shocks we have. >> what kind of neighborhood and community involvement might you want to have before an earthquake to make sure that you are going to able to have the support that you need. >> it is important to have a good relationship with your neighbors and your community. go to those community events, shop at local businesses, have a reciprocal relationship with them so that you know how to take care of yourself and who you can rely on and who can take care of you. it is important to have a battery-operated radio in your home so that you can keep track of what is happening in the community around and how you can communicate with other people. >> one of the things that seems important is to have access to your important documents. >> yes, it is important to have copies of those and also stored them remotely. so a title to a home, a passport, a driver's license, any type of medical records

that you need need, back those up or put them on a remote drive or store them on the cloud, the same is true with any vital information on your computer. back that up and have that on a cloud in case your hard drive does not work any more. >> in your home you should be prepared as well. >> absolutely. >> let's take a look at the kinds of things that you might want to have in your home. >> we have no water, what are we going to do about water? >> it is important for have extra water in your house, you want to have bottled water or a five gallon container of water able to use on a regular basis, both for bathing and cooking as well as for drinking. >> we have this big container and also in people's homes they have a hot water heater. >> absolutely, if you clean your hot water heater out regularly you can use that for showering, drinking and bathing as well >> what other things do people need to have aren't their home. >> it is important to have

extra every day items buy a couple extra cans of can food that you can eat without any preparation. >> here is a giant can of green giant canned corn. and this, a manual can opener, your electric can opener will not be working not only to have one but to know where to find it in your kitchen. >> yes. >> so in addition to canned goods, we are going to have fresh food and you have to preserve that and i know that we have an ice chest. >> having an ice chest on hand is really important because your refrigerator will not be working right away. it is important to have somebody else that can store cold foods so something that you might be able to take with you if you have to leave your home. >> and here, this is my very own personal emergency supply box for my house. >> i hope that you have an alternative one at home. >> oh, i forgot. >> and in this is really important, you should have flashlights that have batteries, fresh batteries or

hand crank flashlight. >> i have them right here. >> good. excellent. that is great. additionally, you are going to want to have candles a whistle, possibly a compass as well. markers if you want to label things if you need to, to people that you are safe in your home or that you have left your home. >> i am okay and i will meet you at... >> exactly. exactly. water proof matches are a great thing to have as well. >> we have matches here. and my spare glasses. >> and your spare glasses. >> if you have medication, you should keep it with you or have access to it. if it needs to be refrigerated make sure that it is in your ice box. >> inside, just to point out for you, we have spare batteries. >> very important. >> we have a little first aid kit. >> and lots of different kinds of batteries. and another spare flashlight. >> so, alicia what else can we

do to prepare our homes for an earthquake so we don't have damage? >> one of the most important things that you can do is to secure your valuable and breakable items. make sure that your tv is strapped down to your entertainment cabinet or wall so it does not move. also important is to make sure that your book case is secure to the wall so that it does not fall over and your valuable and breakables do not break on the ground. becoming prepared is not that difficult. taking care of your home, making sure that you have a few extra every-day items on hand helps to make the difference. >> that contributes dramatically to the way that the city as a whole can recover. >> absolutely. >> if you are able to control your own environment and house and recovery and your neighbors are doing the same the city as a whole will be a more resilient city. >> we are all proud of living in san francisco and being prepared helps us stay here. >> so, thank you so much for joining us today, alicia, i appreciate it. >> absolutely, it is my

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>> this meeting will come to order. welcome to the public safety neighborhood service committee. i'm supervisor stefani chair. to my right is vice chair engardio and to my left supervisor dorsey. the clerk is mr. john carroll and before we begin i like to wish member dorsey a very happy birthday. we won't sing. today ewoo meeting with the san francisco youth commission civic engagement education committee and i like to introduce the 4 members from the committee present today. we have committee chair

valentina alioto-pier. isabella perez, joselyn marroquin and ewan barker plummer. i like to thank sfgtv. >> police please silence cell phones. if you have documents you like to include, please submit them to the clerk. public comment will be taken on today's singular item. when public comment is called please line up to speak along the western wall of the room. you may submit comment in writing in either of the following ways, e-mail your written comments at john.carroll@sfgov .org or send

to 1 dr. b goodlett place. if you submit public comment in writing i will forward your comment to the members of the public safety neighborhood service committee and also include your comment within the file upon which you are commenting. madam chair, just one final bit of housekeeping. i will recognize my colleague in the youth commission, the youth commission clerk joy chan to take the roll for the youth commission. >> thank you. on the call of the roll, commissioner barker plummer, present. commissioner marroquin, present. vice chair perez, present. chair alioto-pier, present. [indiscernible] you have quorum. >> madam chair, that concludes our announcements and the roll. >> thank you to you both and will you please call the first item?

>> hearing to evaluate the lockdown and other safety procedures with the san francisco unified school district. >> thank you. and thank you colleagues and everyone here today. i called for this joint hearing after initially hearing about distressing incidents at george washington and galileo high school december 8, 2023. the youth in the city have been vocal about gun and school safety and i'll support them in the journey for safety on school campus. i look forward to keep safe. this is a issue i think you all know i care very deeply about. gun violence prevention and as a mother to two kids, 19 and 14, it is just to me asser baiting gun violence and leading cause of death for children and teens in the country and i want to make sure the hearing today is lead by you and hear your voices. i could go on about this, but i

want to make sure know you are supported and we look forward hearing from you and conducting the hearing so your voices are heard today. i want to welcome director greg markwits. joined by assistant superintendent of family service division, eric-[indiscernible] they are also joined by their colleagues, [indiscernible] and laura--[indiscernible] great. she's the policy communication coordinator and with that, i'll turn it over to commissioner alioto-pier for opening remarks and then we begin the presentation from sfusd.

>> thank you supervisor stefani for calling this hearing, and thank you to sfusd for presenting. it is a absolute pressure to be here. as you probably assumed since we are here, school safety is a issue very near and dear to the youth commission heart, as well the civic engagement and education which is here right now. yeah, we are very very excited to hear from sfusd on how to further school safety and make schools a safe place for children, as it should be. thank you. >> thank you commissioner. i think we can start with our presentation. >> are we able to display the presentation? >> mr. clerk. >> sfgovtv when the slides are

ready please display them here. thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is greg [indiscernible] i serve the san francisco unified school district as director of emergency planning and preparedness. on behalf of the san francisco unified school district, i like to thank you for calling this hearing and for giving our team the chance to present. in addition to myself, eric, the assistant superintendent of student family service will also be presenting. i like to introduce colleagues. colleagues joining us are davina [indiscernible] tara and [indiscernible] second, i want to lift up and honor the voices of our students in the room and student in washington high school and sfusd as a whole who organize in school safety and emergency preparedness. we understand student have the right to feel safe at school and we want to work to that end.

next slide. a overview what we will be discussing today. we'll share our mission as a district, talk about our school site security matric, crisis coordination, [indiscernible] lockdown drill protocol. the definition of active shooter threat and school climate cultural partnerships. our district mission is as follows:every day we provide each student the quality instruction and equitable support required to thrive in the 21 century. as a district the safety of staff and student is forfrent of daily decision making at sites and centrally. sfusd is continually modernizing and upgrading facilities. in late october, 2021 the board of education reallocated $10

million in bond funds to improve safety and security. the district completed assessment of secure door hardware and identified where door hardware was insufficient. today 90 percent of the classrooms have secure hardware installed and will complete by summer 2024. the district updated remote door access with door buzzens with integrated cameras to allow visitor identification and remote access at schools and will complete the work 2024 as well. for building public announcement systems, pa sestms we assessed every school to understand the existing set up and why every school has a pa set up there are around 30 schools that require upgrades to meet the district standards for comprehensive pa coverage in all areas of the campus such as the auditorium and gym and hallways. the $10 million allocation from 2021 will get us most of the way there.

with additional 2 to $5 million in funding need we will need including the $10 million. excuse me. the november 2024 bond system is a opportunity to secure the pa modinization work in 24-25 and safety improvement to campus features. in the event a bond does not pass it is still a district priority and we'll explore other funding sources for the work. the funding outside bond measure is very limited. the bond presentss the best opportunity to be thorough about security improvements. next i will talk about crisis communication in the district. during the incident depends on the scope of the event and impact and safety of students. every situation must be

addressed based on multiple factors and sfusd reserve judgment in each case. works with the school closely to determine communication strategy. the team breaks down incidents into three categories and depending on the level of empact the notification response is adjusted. our crisis communication threshold can be found on our district public website on the page titled, student safety and parent notification. a little about third party and social media. apps such as citizen report events real time so the students and families hear about messages before able to send messages home and that information shared is often incorrect. we understand when the stakeholders find out incidents prior to hearing from the school this creates frustration and confusion. regarding the washington incident communicated as soon

as we had all the communication we needed to confirm for the washington community there was no active threat on campus. we have a responsibility to insure that we have all pertinent information relating to a incident before we share with the community as disinformation can be detrimental to emergency response protocols. i will talk now about our coordination with sfpd. i serve as liaison with sfpd so meet with samual chris to share information consult with one another and [indiscernible] captain chris is also on call during the week and weekends in case of emergency and vice versa for myself. the main goal of the partnership are, maintain direct line of communication, coordinating incident response

to and monitor developments, protect student rights and centering community needs and thought partnership. additionally, our communication division pio works with sfpd to align on messaging as needed to insure the messaging is accurate and consistent and does not compromise active investigations. a little about safety planning and readiness at school sites. the district has a comprehensive crisis plan. schools have individual safety plans and security measures that include evidence based prevention measures. preparation is key to readiness. schools audit safety plans, engage in safety drills and provide timely family communication and notification. information about lockdown protocols. the decision to call a lockdown at a school site or not is

based on whether a threat of violence or harm is identified on campus or directed by law enforcement. it is necessary to prevent the perpetrator or perpetrators from entering any occupied campus areas. the lockdown protocol as well as all other emergency protocols are research based increated and refine in collaboration with law enforcement and dhs recommended acs,dertment of home land security. as far as active shooter definition goes, government agencies such as the doj and hsa among many others define active shooter as a individual killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area. most cases use fire arms and no pattern or method to selection of victims. i want to once again honor the voices of student who organize and support school safety emergency preparedness at washington and across the

district. based on a after action debrief of the incident at washington including reviewing details of the facts of what transpired sfusd protocols were fallowed. the school prioritize sharing accurate timely updates with families and staff as we recognize the importance of curbing misinformation and confusion within the community. a lockdown was not initiated at washington because per the lockdown protocol it was determined no active threat on campus. i like to now ask my colleague eric, invite him to come up to finish or presentation. >> thank you everybody for inviting us today. before i jump in, i do want acknowledge-i will talk about the bigger picture thinking about culture and climate of the classroom and key partnership with the cities and range of agencies. this is scary so i don't want to undermine as a parent myself

having raised children in sfusd it is is a scary proposition and i'm very grateful to you all providing us here and opening up this partnership that we can have together collectively because we have been thinking about the issue of community violence. it isn't solely at the school level. it is in the community and spillinize to the school and often can spill from the school to the community. with that, i will start with the first slide for us around the critical nature of relationship building and one of the areas and a key shifts in our district in the last year and a half with the board is vision value goals and guardrails and the key guardrail i work to uphold within the student family service division is around the idea of sense of belonging. we know at every school site students that feel seen, heard loved and cared for are more connected and more likely to

let us know when something is happening and also the more willing to be part of the solution rather then the causing issues. that is a key driver for us. one way we do that is to coordinated care teams at every school site supervisored by the lead school division and my folks in student family service division so that is place where they meet weekly to talk about student concern and issue and how to create what we call a tier 1 level of what we expect in our culture and climate, how we want to connect with each other, how we want to behave with each other and think about tier 2 and 3, the services and supports we need to offer for small groups and individual students showing more issues. that is directly connected to the wellness centers which we have at every high school now and next year we will have at every middle school as well. for the schools that don't have

some of the k-8 that don't have a wellness center, they all have social workers and all have or most have school nurses, so the strategies of building the sense of belonging and sense of hearing and understanding where student are coming from. we also have within my division a district crisis response team that deals with high level issues as well on a daily basis. if we are hearing unfortunately even in elementary school a student says i want to hurt somebody, we take that up and deal with that. social worker involved. we can do things like behavior threat assessment, contracts we are working to figure out what the crises and how to mitigate as much as possible. we also initiated a year and a half in, maybe 2 years actually, the say something anonymous reporting. which is great. we trained over 8 thousand students just this month alone. going to continue training

student and i know we are training because we have gotten a lot of prank tips, which i feel personally. that is fine because it shows me the system is working and student are trying to out to see if they get a response, which they do. in terms of centering student and youth, a huge partnership and want to recognize jasmine dawson my partner, we created what i think is a extraordinary model for the country around community partnership with the city of san francisco, [indiscernible] and many interdepartmental teams where we meet on a weekly-twice weekly basis to coordinate issues of violence and how we not only deal with the ones happening and how we are proactive and getting involved and making sure students have violence interrupters and case managers and life coaches to support when something occurred or prior to occurring so we can

do restorative practice and mediation and acsess all the rich resources the city has to offer that might be housing services, might be mental health services. this partnership coordinated between dcyf is key. another the drivers is recently we are now part of a interdepartmental working group. meets twice weekly bobby lopez and her team puts together with the mayor's office, with dph, juvenile justice and sfpd and range of folks to talk what is coming up in the community, how it might impact schools or what is happening at schools that might impact the community and been able to leverage for families in distress and students as well. we offer many assemblys and workshops and club to build the sense of belonging and we have very many community partnerships addressing culture and i identity and student

safety and student wellness as well. the team i was mentioning is multidisciplinary team. i will not go into great detail, but it involves the district, myself, what we call violence interrupts. folks on my team, dcyf folks, the national institute for criminal justice reform and [indiscernible] and a range of community organizations, including [indiscernible] ycd and cyc. many thoughtful-and juvenile probation. the way it works, monday we have a leadership meeting talking about big picture issues and thursday, i got off a call, we meet with the violence interrupts and cbo and talk case by case what is happening and who will support that school or this student or that family or community in

real time and we have this for virtually every one of the middle and high school. we pilot around 15 schools now as well and that is a very impactful program and with the bureau justice administration grant as well and we really appreciate that partnership. finally i'll close up, these are the people that do the work. i want to shout out some of the school violence interrupts there at the sites every single day. coming from [indiscernible] and very very importantly, ucsf wrap around who gives a lot of great information. i want to shout out folks including chico [indiscernible] incredibly instrumental in the work and i want to close by saying we recognize that it really does take a village. it takes a community to try to impact what we are seeing i think in our city and in our nation unfortunately around a rise in violence and rise in

incidence with youth in the world and lastly, i think the other thing i didn't talk about is my team delves into how to get at the root cause, because we know guns are real problem, but there is something behind that too, such as housing, such as food security, such as jobs. with that, i will end my part. thank you. and turn back over to greg to finish us up. >> just thank you once again and we are available for questions or-- >> thank you so much. that was very informative and i will turn it over to the youth commissioners to see if you have any questions of sfusd. it looks like we have commissioner barker plummer. >> thank you and thank you chair stefani for not only

facilitating the conversation and calling this hearing and my thanks to the san francisco unified school district for presenting. before i ask a couple follow-up questions i want to speak about the hearing and the importance. safety concerns from students and families have been a consistent issue raised to myself and many youth commissioners. today hearing is a important opportunity for us to address the concerns, both where improvement is needed, but also to share publicly the school district along with partners in the city have proactively taking for school safety so i want to express thanks to supervisor stephanie and partners at unified school district for being here and facilitating this. one area i with am wondering if i can hear more about is the procedure between sfusd schools and sfpd when there is a emergency incident.

specifically, what is the first contact look like and follow up on that if there needs to be another call made how is that done, especially between school sites and emergency services and how central office is included as well. >> that is a great question actually. one thing i'll say is, when there is a incident at a site and emergency service are called whether medical or law enforcement, our principals at the site the site leaders serve as incident commanders so the first person to generally speak with and meet law enforcement or medical personnel is our site leader and site principal who has the most information about the incident. that initial contact during a incident-and that-those interactions, that interaction happens throughout the incident. when police are called-i do want to say that you know, since we came back from the pandemic the relationship with

sfpd has been incredible and it has been appreciated in the sense of the partnership we have and their willingness to meet us where we are at with regards to police presence on campus. what i will say is that, after a incident there is a follow-up in the sense of after action reports and that collaboration that exists between sfpd and the district. we meet mondays for a hour. eric is generally there, i'm there, any other folks that in our lead division that serve schools come and maybe bring up questions they have, but what i will say also is, i'm on the phone with captain chris probably 1 or 2 times a day checking in about incidents, consulting, asking questions, best practices, and it st. the same for them as well. they call us a lot asking about

like, best practice and how they interact with schools and any concerns that come up. it is really like a ongoing conversation via text, via phone. >> if i can ask a follow-up question. so, what i heard from some students is that, they are under the impression that once there is a first initial contact between a school site and emergency services then essentially the policy is it should always go through central office. i wonder if that is accurate and so--say there was a incident reported, the school principal calls 911 and says we need a response, they end the phone call, are they able to then per protocol call 911 again or do they have to go through central office? >> absolutely. we want them to call 911 when there is a emergency. so, i'm trying to answer your

question here. there is no intervention between central office and the site. we talk to--we learn about it afterwards, if that makes sense. like, there is no-they don't have to get permission to speak to the police. is that what you are asking? >> yeah, and i think there were concerns around what that incident--it grows to be including central office, once you guys become aware of a incident happening? >> absolutely. >> there were concerns around what the process looks like and how they might inhibit and complicate the situation between law enforcement. >> there is literally no intervention, it is more-we talked about this before at the may hearing, we have a central emergency operation center and what that is, it is a [indiscernible] all the people in support of schools come together and i lead it to say, what's going on, what do you

need, if it is around lunch time do we need stable food instead of hot lunch. it is what is going on at the school site and how we make sure that as little disruption to the school day occurs, other then what is going on. >> thank you. >> any other questions? supervisor dorsey. >> thank you so much. so, a few days ago i was listening to npr and there was a story that i think all things considered and knowing this hearing was coming up, i looked it up. it was about exploring the n s between bullying and school shootings and one thing i really grateful to see in the presentation was addressing some culture. just curious if that is something that the story that npr ran focused on a incident a school shooting in iowa and

some of the students-there is no motive. the person who did it took i think killed 5 students 3 staff members and took his own life. one thing reported is he had been bullied since elementary school and there was discussion about that. obviously this isn't to forgive it or explain it, but it did go into things we need to do and i think there was a reference to addressing root causes. just to invite somebody to explore that a little bit. what the school district does around bullying. i just appreciated the attention you gave to school culture and also i think as you wrap up you mentioned getting at the root cause, which include access to guns too. >> that is scary story. that is the kind of thing that keeps me up at night and greg and all of us.

i think the culture and climate piece and sense of belonging and really how we support sites and building that place where student walk in the door and feel that sense that they are okay, that they are valued, regardless of where they come from and who they are is absolutely critical. when i talk about tier 1, that is what i mean. the expectation across the whole school, the hallway, the cafeteria and classroom where students feel they can be themselves and be kind and respected with each other. bullying we take deeply seriously and we agree, bullying could be a root cause then we have to look why the bully and where is that is coming from. we do trainings with social worker around bullying and interventions. we have monthly [indiscernible] all the social workers, all the counselors, all our nurses and all our community health

outreach workers that run the support the running of the wellness centers, so that's a key piece. the other piece around social emotional learning from pre-k through 12 grade and we have a office of equity which deals with specific incidents of bullying we then investigate with the school sites and actually then follow up and figure out is this going to lead to what kind of discipline, sometimes expelling which i didn't talk about but that is my shop and other remedies to make sure we are addressing and mitigating incidents of bullying. >> thanks so much. i think the only other thing i would offer and this isn't really a question, you can come up, it was more a observation. being here with a younger generation, i all most feel i want to apologize on behalf of the generation that got it

wrong. this country had second amendment since 1787 but we never had a court holding of a individual right to possess fire arms until 2008. it was the roberts courts and it changed everything. it eviscerated our ability as policy makers to have meaningful gun control in this case. it was the helling decision fallowed by the mcdonald decision and under mined the ability to have the gun control we should be having and now this 15 year s later we are just seeing these kinds of problems. i really do appreciate the leadership of my colleagues supervisor stefani and the work being done here on the youth commission, so i just appreciate this and value this hearing. >> thank you supervisor dorsey. if you want to make your blood boil read why the supreme court decided the way they did in the

heller decision and what the nra had to do with that. i can send literature about all the academic articles written to support the individual right and they pret a much made it up and anyway--it is very upsetting, so thank you supervisor dorsey for those words. i see we have commissioner perez up next. >> thank you chair stefani for calling this hearing and also the san francisco unified school district for presenting and also supervisor dorsey for your comments. very appreciated. this issue as commissioner barker plummer mentioned is important to the youth commission and myself because speaking on behalf of the commission, some colleagues attend the schools and specifically alluding to both galileo and george washington and those incidents on december 8 and aware of the progress and improvement yet to be had to insure students are safe within

sfusd. in the presentation you mentioned difference between-the goal to improve the pa system across sfusd. specifically for the 30 sites considered to be the top priority. my question is what measures are being taken to insure proper funding will be had if this bond measure does not pass? specific measures for that and the second part to the question is what exactly is the state of these current pa systems if a issue were to happen tomorrow? would they be able to effectively communicate a issue to the public to the school at large? what is considered to be a malfunctioning pa system. >> excellent question. i'll address your second question first, which is, like i said, every school site has a pa system. when we have been doing the

bond modernization project off the 2016 bond we have been district standards changed in terms what we want to see in a pa system so those sites with the modernization done have the district standard pa system now. the current schools that do not are the ones we are attending to. every school has a pa system. they are just not the district standard pa system and as far as the funding goes, i spoke to the bond team and preparing for this hearing and i think what they have a understanding of this is of the upmost importance and not the sole responsibility of the bond team to find funding if the bond does not pass, but i think overall the facility division and operation division, the understanding this is a top priority is there, so there is a commitment to if the bond does not pass so everybody vote for it, please if you are a sf

resident. if it doesn't pass we have to move things around in terms of projects in the pipeline or queue to make sure the jobs get done. >> great. thank you very much. >> commissioner marroquin. >> thank you. first of all, i want to say thank you supervisor stefani for calling this meeting and san francisco unified school district for presenting. school safety has been a really important issue to the youth commission for a very long time and i think it is really important we are addressing this today. my question was in the area of crisis communication, specifically, what is the process for timely crisis communication for especially students in ongoing incident? >> thank you for your question.

i'll go on to say that, the team breaks down incidents that occur between low impact, medium impact and are high impact and depending on where the incident falls in terms of the threshold, different communications level exist. one of the most important things like i said previously is we get all the information before we share information with students and families and to make sure that we get it right, because misinformation is often detriment al like i said to emergency response and very frustrating when we don't get the information correct. i'll just say, when we-i can go through the different levels, but low impact is posing no minimum risk to the safety of the school, no disruption regular school day. this is example of a small disturbance or fight and that's

usually parents of the involved students will be contacted. this won't be a full school message. medium impact, police activity in the neighborhood which result in students being brought inside during lunch, something like that. we send a message by the end of the day via e-mail, phone call or website posting. it isn't immediately need to get the information out, but we need to get it out eventually because we want to communicate with the families. high impacts, a gas leak, school evacuation, school closure, school goes into lockdown, lock-out, some high impact major event, our com s team will spring into action and the message goes home immediately via text message, our school messenger system. if a matter of public concern, the coms team may provide social media updates or put out

a press release. >> thank you. i just wanted to say, thank you again to the public safety and neighborhood safety committee and supervisor stefani for calling this meeting. >> thank you. commissioner alioto-pier. did you have- >> thank you. so, i just want to cover a--thank you for presenting. i just want to cover a little more about drills. i was wondering if there is district policy for schools on how to actually practice lockdown drills regularly and if there is a certain way that drills are done differently at each school or each district? just to insure the safety of our students and make sure they know exactly what is going on for such different schools and how they are built. >> thank you for your question. so, every school year it is state mandated law that schools complete comprehensive school safety plans and those plans

need to be completed, shared with the school site counsel approved and including in the plans is all the information and resources sites need to complete these drills in question and the 4 main drills are fire drills with evacuation, earthquake drill, lockdown and lock-out. in the plan you have information what the protocol looks like, you have information about how to plan for a drill and then one pagers you can put around school and in classrooms so students know what to dine a emergency drill. schools are required to complete two of the drills every year and we work with school sites if they want help planning and creating materials to share with their staff or students in terms how to train them. i have open office hours every week three times a week and a lot of schools reach out to me

for support and every school is different like you said. we have some schools that are giant, so it really takes sometimes you do a drill and doesn't go well and that is really important because that teaches all the deficiencies in what you are planning. at a small elementary school it looks a lot different and you have to account for different things because you have smaller children, or you know, there is a rule that says first and second graders can't go down the stairs with kindergartners. there are all these things you have to take into consideration. like i said earlier, all this material and all this information is laid out every year in these templates the schools get that they complete which includes the evacuation plan, the off-site evacuation and people they need to contact.

it is all right there. it is a living document, people can click on it, it's a really comprehensive doc. you're welcome. >> thank you. i think we have commissioner barker plummer. >> if i am allowed to speak again. i have plenty questions. >> you can ask as many questions you like. >> thank you. once again i appreciate that. i sort of have three different areas i want to follow up on. if other commissioners want to go in between, let me know. the first is sort of following up on the pa systems. you mentioned we had a hearing last may. i know this is something that i and other commissioners brought up and especially considering the bond has been moved from the march primary election to the november primary election, seems a more important question to ask of, you basically said

in the case the bond does not pass you will find alternative ways to fund it. why has not been done already with urgent issue that frankly i would argue needed pressing-needed a more timely response then waiting to november 2024 to even pass the bond and then after that implemented? does that make sense? >> sure does. three things or start that with that one? >> i'll let you respond to each one. >> i wanted to write all these things down. that's a great question. i mentioned briefly that a lot of this modernization work and this bond work happens when the bond is passed. so 2016 bond. modernize schools as we go. i totally agree in the sense that, this is just me personally believe this is one of the most important things we need to work on as a school

district so i'm glad we are working on it. as far as why it has not been done until now, that is a great question. i don't have a great answer for you, but i do believe as somebody who is working on this participating in the work now, it is in front of us so how we make sure it happens now is probably the best answer i can give you. i joined the division a year ago and so i was actually a high school principal along with [indiscernible] previous to this and so and i do know that before my modernization between the years of 13-16 we didn't have a modernized pa system and then we did and it made a huge difference, so i want to make sure we can make a huge difference in all the schools that need them. >> i mean, i appreciate that. i do just want to say you know, i and fellow commissioners have had meetings with leaders on

the local level and state level. i know there are grant programs on the federal level when it comes to school safety. to me it a little odd at least that that hasn't been considered, especially when safety is supposed to be the number one priority for the school district. i don't know if you want to speak to that more or if i should move on, but i want to give you a opportunity to respond to that as well. >> i mean, eel polk i'll just reiterate, i totally agree it is one of the most important things we need to work on. >> thank you. and then another-my second area is among crisis communication. i know you said third party apps provide a real challenge i think. i know that is conversations i heard among other areas of city government as well, even the youth commission is still learning how to deal with up and coming social media as well.

i am wondering what your plan is long-term to actually deal with that, because we know young people are not go ing to stop using instagram. i wonder if you have thoughts on what the long-term plan is whether you can work with these platforms, whether you need to express to students that this isn't always trustworthy? >> one thing we work on is digital literacy and making sure they understand what these different apps represent and where this information comes from and how you consumers are social media and information that comes across. to be perfectly honest, it is really-i wouldn't say impossible, but really hard to combat these third party apps, social media apps even when we

deal with issues in the school regarding social media, instagram. it isn't facebook anymore, i know the kids don't use that. my parents who are older use it. but as far as instagram and don't know what else is popular, i apologize, but it is really hard to address those issues because we don't have a ton of control over it and as you astatutely mentioned, working with our students and families to understand that all the information that comes across this app isn't totally--it is more often times not accurate. it is information that comes across police scanners, things like that and so the initial thing they hear is that there is a gun at x school and they don't--you want to speak to it? please. in terms of-i feel strongly what said about crisis calms. we want to get the information right because you don't want to

put information you have to retract that changed afterwards. >> i will use this one. so, i'm not going to speak directly to citizen app. i think it is problem for the city. but in terms of students on social media and causing issues, that is a area that we have known for a long time as a serious area of concern for us so we work with our teams the com team and the grant i talked about with dcyf as the next iteration how we help students understand thoughtful positive respectful use of social media and how we get a handle on that. we have work we have been doing at school sites and build messaging around that and also working across the teams with violence interrupter because we also know it is a individual one on one meetings where they

can really see their ways because they posted something they were mad and lost a video game and said something they shouldn't have said and it blew up. we see that all the time. how we channel that in a different way. as a team across the city we recognize this is a huge area of growth for us and of concern so we will continue to tackle it. not necessarily from the citizen app piece which seems separate from this, but very alarming because sometimes things are misreported and they blow up and that could be hard in the investigation because we think it is this because we saw it on citizen app and it is absolutely not that, and then how do you counter the narrative? that is something we are working on collectively as well. >> i was going to add as part of the communication department, i think our social responsibility as young leaders

as elected officials and community members to think how we share communication when a crisis like this occur in the community. we have to be sensitive and it is our social responsibility and i call out all of us so when we experience or see information that about incidents in the schools or community think about before you share that information because we might just cause panic and we want empower the students and communities to get the right information from trusted sources like [indiscernible] investigating the cases of incidents that happen in the school sites. a invitation for all of us to be socially responsible when we use platforms that are at our disposal. >> one thing thing i like to add, i'm a parent. i have two daughters, 10 and 13. they go to public school in oakland and if i-i want to name

it is really important to get that information out as quickly as possible because i want to know when something goes on at my child's school. i also want you to know, prior to me coming into this role there wasn't as much-as far as i know, not as much collaboration between my work and the work this position engages in in the com division and [indiscernible] colleague and i about a year ago really sort of decided that we were going to be very much aligned in this work, because crisis calms and making sure communication is quick and accurate and so families know what's going on at their child's school site is probably one of the most important parts of emergency response and preparedness is making sure that is squared away. i want you to know it is really important piece to the work we do and we care deeply to make

sure it is done a respectful swift and accurate way. >> thank you. one more follow-up question and then i know i think commissioner perez wants to speak. so, you spoke a lot about in the presentation and also in the recent response in terms of what notifying families looks like. i think one of the issues that came up at george washington high school was, there were these beliefs perulating and spreading that there was either a active threat or had been some kind of active threat and that lead to questions around should a lockdown have been called. what does communication with students look like, especially in real time? as a student i think it is great my parents get a e-mail later that day that say something might have happened but i'm more concerned about getting a e-mail in my in-box

that says everything is okay or everything is not okay. i wonder on two levels, what is like in real time emergency communication look like to people who are on campus, do you have a emergency alert system or student signed with cell phones, sfusd e-mail they are sent to, and also more generally how you take into consideration the impact that that has on students, because so far you really only have spoken about families? >> i understand what you are asking in rmof impact on students and i think what is challenging about you spoke about the washington incident i think what is challenging about that incident is, students were getting one piece of information in real time from the citizen app because i think that is what happened and there was something happening alternatively real time that was different and there was no

way for us to know what was being shared on citizen app, versus what is happening real time. the realty of what was happening. i think we all understood and it all gets to us in different ways in terms of the students think x is happening and so once we start to understand--what i would also share is, we don't get information as quickly necessarily as you might think. information comes to us based on what is happening in relation to what you are saying and students not know what is going on, so once we come to understand, the correct information goes out. again, we have school messenger, which is what we use to get information out to students, families, staff, and so when information is-when we understand what actually happened and we can set the

record straight, we do that. >> let me ask one more question. if there is a active situation, how quickly are you able to communicate to students or faculty on campus beyond just a public announcement? i know a lot of schools don't have ones deemed to be sufficient, but also, school sites have people outside between classes and passing periods, all these kinds of things. do you have a active alert system or i don't know if that is the correct terminology, but i want to know how quickly you can get a message out that says we need to lockdown, or there is a threat on campus you need to be aware of, or don't panic? >> sure. again, we use the different systems we have available to us when we have to evacuate. when we have to engage in a lockdown. if there is a lock-out. lock-out is different because it is a little more-it is quite.

you do a lock-out so nothing is coming in or out. it is a good question. i had to engage in several lockdowns as a principal and it's not always clean and that's what we do our drills, but ultimately you know-i think depending on the incident, god forbid we should ever have a true active shooter situation. you get the word out as quickly as you can with all the systems available to you and if it is an active shooter situation, a lot of times that-i'll just leave it at that. >> commissioner perez. >> thank you for answering all the questions. i did just based on what

commissioner barker plummer mentioned about the george washington incident, curious, is there a uniform response afterwards in terms of from a emotional standpoint having resources for students to express their concerns to get the necessary mental support or whatever that may be or is that on the student to search that out or can does the school have again, this response that is put in place like an assembly or something like that? >> yeah, in any-i talked about the crisis response team and so one of the key things we would do there and washington was no different is we working with for example i see tera here, working with tera directly, we make sure the school is capable and able to support student that may triggered or--it is really scary as i opened when i was talking so our wellness centers we work with the crisis response team. they are social workers and so

they are connecting and say be ready for this, there may be students coming in and we work with our lead folks and the sites themselves to say feel free to send kids and let them know the wellness center is there. if we need to go in classrooms and check in. we didn't do it in the washington case i know of, maybe-we may do lessens in the classroom or pull out or push in to make sure students feel safe at the wellness centers, especially the high school and middle school level. key drivers in the work so after--a incident such as washington which wasn't a active threat but could be very alarming triggering and scary, we are there to support them. >> i think from a personal standpoint and necessary. going back to belonging how student may not feel confident and comfortable going to a

teacher, counselor, to express how they felt triggered so i think it should be on these different committees that are focused on the issue for them to go into classrooms for them to take the initiative because it might not always be on the student so i'll just say that. >> can i just add that i mentioned the coordinated care teams. that is a strategy to get a handle. after a incident the coordinated care team can come together and talk about do we go in classrooms or offer some peace rally or get a dj and do something that is fun or maybe breathing and meditation, mindfulness so they are aware when a incident like that happens it can be traumatic across the board. >> thank you. >> thank you. that was one of my questions in terms of the traumatizing nature of these lockdown drills and what happens to the students after that really are triggered and do they have resources, where can they go, do they know about them? i think sometimes the

traumatizing nature of just going through a idea someone may be on the campus as a active shooter perpetuates anxiety and depression and everything facing our youth and we have to have resources for them and it sounds like we do. i just want to make sure for the youth that you all know about it and they are utilizing these resources. >> i couldn't agree with you more. >> hi, everyone. i wanted to ask something about that decision. i think that is why we also don't always jump to the lockdown is because we also have to balance when we have information where we feel confident and we have to investigate this first, if we were to do that that could be a weekly occurrence from any random thing. we have to first investigate and is this a valid thing because we don't want to overly traumatize and that is a huge weight on the shoulders of a principal to be the person that needs to navigate that and why

it is great we have a team because we don't just-it could be how you feel that day or the principal is busy and have to get to a meeting so we feel comfortable we go into the crisis response of let's let this out and you are doing this and you are doing that, because that is the disadvantage of always reacting is that. also going into every class or doing a big whole group thing like a assembly format, everyone deals with things differently and that may be very uncomfortable where they are like what i want to do is focus on math, i don't want to be in the conversation. it is a hard balance we have to weigh. >> thank you for that. i see we have commissioner barker pumer on the roster again. >> it is good timing. so, my last question was basically how see something say something is being advertised. i know that you said there is some success to it, and i know

some students know about it, but one thing i heard from the fall out, repercussions at washington and galileo is people are saying why don't we have this kind of system. we do, but there is clearly lack of awareness this is system they are able to utilize, especially like in real time as well, so wondering if any of you can speak to that as well? >> well, we are actively working to train all our 6-12 graders. that is the grade age level that we work with the sandy hook team. we are over 8 thousand right now, but that is just for-many students have been trained prior. washington including last year and part of the year before. the training isn't different and app isn't different so it it is all still there. there are posters at all the schools with the qr code and information how to access it. we will continue and are

continuing because we believe this is critical for our work to push it and we [indiscernible] i was looking at the list to see which schools still have not or completed the training and the executive director of my team takes the lead. we meet with the sandy hook folks and monitor and push the trainings throughout the year to make sure we are as high as-we are about 45 percent right now, but we do much better, and we will do much better. >> thank you. i would also say, the youth commission is a resource for you to hear from young people what the best ways to communicate those type of things are, so let us know if we can be helpful in like best practices for submitting information to young people. i think that is a constant challenge as social media becomes more complicated and so many schools sites and sfusd so let us know if we can be helpful in that sense as well.

and then the other last thing i want to ask about is the distribution of safe firearm storage information. i know we have many mom demand action volunteers leaders here today and this is snng they have been working on and i have been working on not only in schools and other community organizations making sure the city is sharing that information as well. i know that you said it is included in some district wide news letters. i know that people have felt it was quite burried in a lot of information disseminateed. one of the recommendations also is to have students go home with a piece of paper their parents are supposed to review and sign and send back at beginning of the year to make sure they know that is happening. that is something we brought up last hearing, so wndering if there is any positive movement towards having that actually be implemented? >> i'm going to say a little

about our communications in terms of sharing very vital important information with our families. most of the communications we send out in the news letter are posted on the website, so we also recognize when families dont have access to get the information via a news letter because they not open e-mail they might browse the website. we have a commitment to update the information and communication department we think beyond the news letter and beyond e-mail and other channels of communication like other channels we can activate to insure families and students are receiving the latest and grating information about these issues. part of our commitment is how we make it accessible to families that are mono lingual. it is long that comes into planning and sharing and activating the proper channels so we reach the right audiences, so in terms of how

we share that information, we will continue to use and implement some of the channels activated. early last year since last year, and again, our commitment is to continue enforcing and implementing other channels to best communicate with multiple audiences, bringing language to to r our work and accessibility. >> thank you. i would just say this has been something that has been asked for a lot is have this sent home as a physical copy, because sometimes there is nothing better with a physical copy with news letters and social media so i hope i see a commitment to doing that maybe for the next school year soon would be something i appreciate. >> absolutely. we are taking the recommendation back to the team and that is something we can work on printing and doing mail out to the families so everyone has access to a hard copy. >> thank you.

>> on the see something say something anonymous reporting system, are you using the app from the sandy hook promise or information? i don't know if everyone knows what that is. it is anonymous reporting system 365/24/7 that my understanding anyone with report whether they are feeling they may harm themselves or somebody may be harmed in school. wonder how the information is getting out and i do love the fact that i want to acknowledge the moms demand action members. i see them with their shirts. love them. the work they put into making sure that information was going home about safe storage. if we can do the same for the see something say something program. >> we shared on our website and many spaces as well. the way it works is, it is a app as you said and there is a center that isn't us through the sandy hookpromise and they field all the calls and

distribute them out. they are every single school has a team of of at last 3, many cases 5 that have cell numbers so they get alerted right away and i have a team as well so there are parallel alerts so many folks get calls. the sandy hook folks talk to students, you see the transcripts, they talk with studentsthrough what is going on and happening and what do they need and they make a determination whether it is high level or high risk incident or low risk or sometimes a prank. i will say, i won't say specifics, but while we were training and kids were practice, we did pick up a student in emotional distress and it was in very real time that i actually got the call myself, able to reach out to the principal and able to get the student the support they needed immediately. i believe as we continue to build it is a extraordinarily

impactful for individual support for students that may not feel comfortable reporting and other stuff coming up in the community or school site. >> thank you so much. if anyone wants more information about it, it is you can find it at sandyhookpromise.org and it is called say something promise system. thank you so much. i remember talking to superintenant matt wayne about this when we met and was very happy you are embracing this because i think it is really important and throughout it is used throughout the nation in many different schools and stopped many school shootings. it has been a good tool. commissioner alioto-pier. >> thank you. so, this is just to go back to emotional support within schools. while talking to a few colleagues, like orientations or during meetings or something, we have come to a understanding that within schools it is very very difficult to get and meet with your counselor, and when you do

actually meet with your counselor you only get 15 minutes with them from personal experience. that would not be enough. i was wondering if there's a situation to arrive. if there a plan in place for after that situation, like something in wash for more support to be put out there and just more of those resources. maybe another cunsler counselor for a month so in the high school elementary middle school where ever it may be will get enough time with their counselor and enough time actually speak? >> couple things. i love you to clarify what you are asking, but i think a lutal little distinction, counselors in the school are there for support but also there for academic support. i think it is great to go to your counselor, but encourage going to the wellness centers and they are where there are

social workers there, there is therapists there, there is cbo partners child community outreach worker. that is a space to really connect and to be able to be there for a while to maybe get involved in a group, get involved in one on one therapy or counseling and connect. i do think that in some cases going to your academic counselor is great, but it isn't necessarily going to give you the same level of social emotional support long urterm then you can get at the wellness center. i know washington has strong wellness center so highly encourage that. i will say we are in a state of staffing shortage, so we are short on counselors. i think we are fairly good right now at the academic counseling level, and we do have social workers at every high school and middle school, but it is definitely not-it is still-we talk about the teacher shortage, but the nursing shortage and social worker

shortage is quite real as well. >> okay, see no other names on the roster and we have people that i know want to get to public comment, why don't we open up for public comment. mr. clerk. >> thank you madam chair. if you have public comment on our agenda item number 1, please line up to speak along the western wall of the room. i am pointing out with my left hand. if the first speaker would come forward to the lectern, i'm start a timer for 2 minutes per speaker and the first speaker with approach the lectern at this time. >> hi, thank you so much commissioner barker plummer and supervisor stephanie and thank you to sfusd leadership for your thoughtful replies and sharing the information. i feel good you give such care to students and thoughts to violence intervention and prevention and social emotional support. i want to make sure just as

much attention is given to the horrible possibility that a active shooter could still none the less happen and that i want to feel more secure that every single thing that can possibly be done to keep our students safe in the situation is being done. that includes of course the interior door locks, working pa system and information home so parent and guardians know it is illegal to have a gun in a home with a miner unsecured. also, it is so important the students feel safe. it is obviously so hard for student to feel safe in 2024 in high school, but as much communication being done as possible with them and as much listening to what they need to feel safe, i think that is really going to do a lot to help them learn and hopefully improve the situation. i want to say how terrible i feel that our educators and administrators have to deal with the issue because they shouldn't have to, but that is where we are at so thank you so much.

>> thank you for sharing your comments. next speaker, please. >> my name is sarah montoya, a volunteer with [indiscernible] public school parent. someone who has been impacted by gun violence in my life and also coming to speak up for san francisco parents coalition. we have reached out to community and heard from parents in san francisco that they need more transparency. they don't know what is happening but they know about the facility issues and do know that the pa systems are not working and they are concerned and they want more transparency. grateful for the presentation. at the same time, i think our parents deserve more and our students actually ultimately more then anyone else our students deserve more. they deserve to feel safe and i also want to share that last year i sat across from a teacher as she cried looking around the clasroom telling me she could see all the ways that she knew her students were not

safe. she was just sitting with me crying and talking about my own child and she knew she couldn't keep him safe if something happened and that breaks my heart it across the board our schools do not feel like safe spaces now, so thank you for the work you are doing. and please do more. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hi. my name is sophia. if you are supervisor or local politician i e-mailed you about safety concerns. as a studabout from wash, i like to say we don't do the drills twice a year. we haven't had lockdown drills. we just had our first in several years. normally shay e they show a video instead of the drill. also the same week as the gun incident we had two bathroom fires two days. my parent and i were not notified. i think that is a incident that would be needed to be notified

about. also, they said they can reach out to wellness centers if we are feeling unsafes or traumatized but the centers are under staffed and if i make a appointment it takes up to 6 months. see something say something, i have been at wash, my third year now, i never heard of it before i talked to administration and told me about it. i never heard of it before. there are no posters. i never heard of it and didn't know it was a thing and that was a possibility that i could reach out for. so, obviously the district is saying a lot of stuff and lot of good things that need to be implemented but the students need to know they are option jz need to be staffed and need to be funded. thank you. >> thank you. [applause] >> thank you for your comments. next speaker, please. >> hi. i'm a student of george washington high school and i say thank you for being here to have a meeting on school safety. i want to also point out as per

my class mate sophia said, our school we have not been communicated properly with say something system. my question is for the sandy hook promise app. is that inefficient for communication to be sent to a organization and then to the school administration if we can't just talk to it the administration our severals? i want to add that our school has a lack of communication systems in place, the pa system. we have been told for the past 4 years they implement that by the summer and the school district has not delivered on that, so i was wondering if you have plans to hold sfusd construction accountable as well as a timeline for modernization of school and implementing these changes? >> thank you. >> next speaker, please.

>> good afternoon supervisors. commissioners, my name is tom pier. 30 year resident of san francisco, proud to say my wife and i have raised three children in the city. first off, i like to really commend the youth commission for bringing very important perspective to these issues. a perspective i think is generally lost among the people of my generation and the people who are the legislators who really are running the show for lack of a better term. and, the reason i'm raising this issue is in light of the united states senate hearings yesterday i as everyone in the room is aware that, ceo's of all the social media companies testified

before congress. i didn't hear young people testifying during those hearings or asking questions. so, the point i'm trying to make is that i really encourage the youth commissioners and also the board of supervisors to become engaged in what is this nascent regutory environment that is taking place first at a national level, but will trickle down. i appreciate that we are sort of looking at the back-end of school violence, but the front end is the social media bullying and harmful conduct that takes place online towards youth. in summary, i really encourage you to get involved in this regulatory process. thank you for your time. >> thank you for sharing

comments. next speaker, please. >> hi, jen [indiscernible] here as a public school parent. i have a first grader. thank you supervisor stefani for calling this meeting and for all of the advocacy and work you do in this space as a parent i am greatly appreciative of that. i have been in sfusd for a year and a half now. i don't know that my daughter had a lockdown drill. i know when i go to the campus of her school it's open. there are not conversations about safety that are happening with the parents. this conversations happening in some rooms, but those are not conversations happening across the district and they need to be. we need to know what's going on at the school and we need good communication. watching this presentation i feel like we don't have a great path forward yet. we are not prepared with the technology.

we are not prepared with infrastructure and we need to be doing more, so thank you all for being here today and making this is a top priority. >> thank you. >> next speaker. if we have further speakers after this one please line up to speak along the wall. >> i'm here as a parent of a sfusd second grader. i served on my school council for 3 years now so very aware of the school safety plan. i would like to make sure we address a system of checks and balances however, because of where i'm located i'm in d3, galileo is the closest high school. i know there is a pa system not working at galileo. not just a problem for the students, but the student for all of the adjacent elementary schools which evacuate to galileo. days before the galileo incident, we basically had signed off on our school site

safety plan knowing francisco, another challenging school and galileo are both our schools and supposed to be a place of safety where our students can go if there a incident and that is a bit concerning to me as a parent. i also know galileo did not have a plan in place because their principal was out on medical leave. this is is one system of checks and balances i think needs to happen in our district. at our school we had a issue we had a gas leak, luckily it was not a real issue, but parent were not all notified of the incident and the evacuation, because our principal was out that day and had to rely on the school secretary. i believe that the system is great in theory. i think there still needs to be a application of that and where so i really want to see a further application and oversight of what is currently in place. but i definitely appreciate the youth commission and supervisor

stefani and dorsey and engardio for taking the issue seriously. >> thank you for your comments. anyone further with public comon item 1? madam chair. >> seeing none, public comment is now closed. thank you everyone for coming out for public comment. i don't know if the school district felt like responding to any of the comments they heard or can touch base with some of those commenters that had questions, but if you want to respond, great, if not that's okay. i can turn it back over to our youth commissioners for final questions or remarks. >> great. i can go ahead and close us off and i think we all have brief statements to wrap up. i just want to say i know we are all on the same page about the importance of insuring our schools are safe learning environments for students as well as the educators and staff

who are there. i think the fact the hearing was held shows we have people from the school district, from our city government, even the young leaders we have of our city that we all care. i also think it is clear today that there is a need for improvement and that we need to make sure this is a urgent priority for our school district, for our city and for our wider community. so, i want to thank supervisor stefani for calling this hearing and supervisor engardio and dorsey for joining us as well as as my fellow civic engagement education committee members and also my appreciation to sfusd for presenting today. we all play a part in making sure our schools are safe and welcoming learning environments that includes teachers, administrators, students and our supervisors. i think it is important we make a collective commitment to doing this and make sure this is the first priority when it

comes to our schools is making sure they are safe for everyone. thank you. >> again, i want to say thank you supervisor stefani for calling the hearing and public safety neighborhood service committee. school safety has been a priority on the commission for years and will continue to be a top priority until youth feels the schools are safe learning environment they were built to be, especially to grow in their academic and personal development and yes, there is a great importance to be placed on all issues brought up today with additional comment about the importance of expanding wellness centers at school across the city. we all want to insure the safety of our city youth so speaking on behalf of the youth commission, there is great work to be done, we are excited and hoping for the further

commitment to school safety and continued partnership on the issue. >> great. i have the same appreciation. thank you for your time and the presentation. this has been a important issue of the youth commission for a long time as mentioned before. we are committed to continuing to work on this matter to insure that my peers and our peers have the piece of mind during school hours that they are provided with necessary resources for issues that can impact safety and wellbeing. i was intrigued how since of belonging or lack there of directly impact the student ceftsds and willingness to go to a trusted adult and find support if they believe safety is threatened but this committee will work to [indiscernible] and the confidence to find the necessary help. >> yeah, i just wanted to echo what my other community members also said. i think it is great that we all

have come together today to have this holding, parents--the public safety and neighborhood committee and my other community members. i think is really great we come together and just us being here right now really shows that we are committed to uplifting student voices in all schools making sure we get them proper safety and i think it is great that we are making measures to finally get this done, so thank you so very much to the public safety neighborhood committee and supervisor stefani for calling this meeting. >> thank you to all of you so much for your remarks, and thank you for your advocacy. i want to thank you in advance for being the generation that is going to put a end to the insanity in this countsry around gun violence. you are the ones who will make

a difference. i promise. i see it in your compassion. i see it in your attention to detail. i see it in everything how you show up and the walk out you did. was that last week or the week before? all the weeks are running together. i'm so impressed by all of you and the one commenter that said there was no one in the senate talking about the impact on the youth, it is your voice, it is your experience, it is what you are going through and what you know your peers are going through that needs to be heard and we adults who are in positions of power, we need to figure how to change it. we really need to figure how to do something about the the say something program so everyone knows about it. we need to figure how to get the money to fix the pa system. we need to figure how to communicate better with parents and we can do that and i'm impressed with the school district--everyone who showed up today.

i know they care. i know they are strapped not having enough resources but i know they care and are trying and we'll keep trying together. again, i think about all most 6 years ago which will be valentine's day when the shooting occurred at parkland high school in florida and i remember standing here talking about that just sobbing that i couldn't believe that this continued to happen in our country. that it wouldn't stop and that we know it is preventable. we know, we all know in this room it is preventable. we know that there are solutions. we know this doesn't happen in our peer countries. the change comes with you to make sure there are people in positions of power that put solutions in place. again, i can't thank you enough. continue to advocate, continue to tell your peers to come and speak out and just continue to fight for your lives.

they started march for life. it is such a sad commentary as supervisor dorsey was saying we have to do this. but i just want you all to know that we are committed to not only helping solve this issue with you, but to elevating your experience. it so important so thank you for this today. i want to thank everyone for coming out and speaking at public comment and for all the advocacy organization, moms demand action, brady campaign, united playas. there are so many people that are really committed to this and that is quhie i have hope on what seems such a horrible insurmountable problem but all you give me hope so thank you. colleagues, do you have anything else you want to say? okay. i think at this time i will move to file this hearing and we'll make sure we stay in touch on things going forward.

>> motion is offered by the chair this hearing matter be heard and filed. on the motion, engardio, aye. member dorsey, aye. chair stefani, aye. madam chair, there are three ayes. >> thank you mr. clerk. are there any other items before us? >> there is no further business. >> thank you, we are adjourned. [meeting adjourned]

meter. >> hello, i'm captain tom the coordinator for the san francisco fire department. this oversight is the three and 4 anniversary of loma linda earthquake i want to go over a few things to help you preparation building a supply kit and supply kit does is not have to be put together all at once take your time on the website have a list of recommendation and have enough food and water to feed your family through three to 5 days and purchase the fire extinguisher if you have an extinguisher at hand will stop a small fire from being a by fire it is simple to use check the

gage make sure it is charged and then repeat the word task task stand for pull to pin aim the novel and screws the trigger and successes to the because of fire the last recommendation to look at the gas meter electrical gas lines cause fires in the loma linda earthquake and we want to show you how to turn off the gay only turn off if you hear gas or hear hissing and coordinator nathan will demonstrate how to turn that off. >> with a whenever i'm going to turn it over one quarter turn. so in on holler orientation in turn off our gays meter don't

turn it back on get a service call from >> i try to start every day not looking at my phone by doing something that is grounding. that is usually meditation. i have a gym set up in my garage, and that is usually breathing and movement and putting my mind towards something else. surfing is my absolute favorite thing to do. it is the most cleansing thing that i'm able to do. i live near the beach, so whenever i can get out, i do. unfortunately, surfing isn't a

daily practice for me, but i've been able to get out weekly, and it's something that i've been incredibly grateful for. [♪♪♪] >> i started working for the city in 2005. at the time, my kids were pretty young but i think had started school. i was offered a temporarily position as an analyst to work on some of the programs that were funded through homeland security. i ultimately spent almost five years at the health department coordinating emergency programs. it was something that i really enjoyed and turned out i was pretty good at. thinking about glass ceiling, some of that is really related to being a mother and

self-supposed in some ways that i did not feel that i could allow myself to pursue responsibility; that i accepted treading water in my career when my kids were young. and as they got older, i felt more comfortable, i suppose, moving forward. in my career, i have been asked to step forward. i wish that i had earlier stepped forward myself, and i feel really strongly, like i am 100% the right person for this job. i cannot imagine a harder time to be in this role. i'm humbled and privileged but also very confident. so here at moscone center, this is the covid command center, or the c.c.c. here is what we calledun -- call unified command.

this is where we have physically been since march, and then, in july, we developed this unified structure. so it's the department of emergency management, the department of public health, and our human services hughesing partners, so primarily the department of homelessness and supportive housing and human services agency. so it's sort of a three-headed command in which we are coordinating and operating everything related to covid response. and now, of course, in this final phase, it's mass vaccination. the first year was before the pandemic was extremely busy. the fires, obviously, that both we were able to provide mutual support but also the impact of air quality. we had, in 2018, the worst air

quality ten or 11 days here in the city. i'm sure you all remember it, and then, finally, the day the sun didn't come out in san francisco, which was in october. the orange skies, it felt apocalyptic, super scary for people. you know, all of those things, people depend on government to say what's happening. are we safe? what do i do? and that's a lot of what department of emergency management's role is. public service is truly that. it is such an incredible and effective way that we can make change for the most vulnerable. i spend a lot of my day in problem solving mode, so there's a lot of conversations with people making connections, identifying gaps in resources or whatever it might be, and trying to adjust that. the pace of the pandemic has

been nonstop for 11 months. it is unrelenting, long days, more than what we're used to, most of us. honestly, i'm not sure how we're getting through it. this is beyond what any of us ever expected to experience in our lifetime. what we discover is how strong we are, and really, the depth of our resilience, and i say that for every single city employee that has been working around the clock for the last 11 months, and i also speak about myself. every day, i have to sort of have that moment of, like, okay, i'm really tired, i'm weary, but we've got to keep going. it is, i would say, the biggest challenge that i have had personally and professionally to be the best mom that i can be but also the best public

certify chant in whatever role i'm in. i just wish that i, as my younger self, could have had someone tell me you can give it and to give a little more nudge. so indirectly, people have helped me because they have seen something in me that i did not see in myself. there's clear data that women have lost their jobs and their income because they had to take care of their safety nets. all of those things that we depend on, schools and daycare and sharing, you know, being together with other kids isn't available. i've often thought oh, if my kids were younger, i couldn't do this job, but that's unacceptable. a person that's younger than me that has three children, we want them in leadership positions, so it shouldn't be

limiting. women need to assume that they're more capable than they think they are. men will go for a job whether they're qualified or not. we tend to want to be 110% qualified before we tend to step forward. i think we need to be a little more brave, a little more exploratory in stepping up for positions. the other thing is, when given an opportunity, really think twice before you put in front of you the reasons why you should not take that leadership position. we all need to step up so that we can show the person behind us that it's doable and so that we have the power to make the changes for other women that is going to make the possibility for their paths easier than ours. other women see me in it, and i hope that they see me, and they

understand, like, if i can do it, they can do it because the higher you get, the more leadership you have, and power. the more power and leadership we have that we can put out >> hello, i'm the deputy assistant manage and project manager for the control system bureau i consider any department as my extend family i know every member of my department the folks are that that talented and

skilled and have their credentials since the people in the site are coming to before they're put in operation it's a good place to visit we share information and support each other the water system is a program we got 26 national level with regards because of the dedication of any team the people are professional about their work but their folks they care about their community and the project i did this is a great organization with plenty of associations in you work hard and if you really do your job not only do you enjoy it but the sky is the limit we had a great

job excuse me. that sfpuc also recognizes that every citizen residing within the greater bay