do, god, and nothing's working, i just give up." and, honestly, i am telling you the truth, i heard the holy spirit excitedly say, "really?" >> [laughing] >> joyce: "really?" i remember that, "really?" and i thought, well, why are you so excited? and then all of a sudden, it just like came to me like as a revelation, because the only time that god gets to work are those few moments in our life when we get out of works of the flesh long enough to say, "god, i can't do this. if anything gets done, it's gonna have to be you." oh, really? like god's surprised by that. >> [laughing] >> joyce: come on, do you ever get dramatic with god? "i just can't take it. i just can't take anymore." some of you told god,

"god, if i don't get a word from you at that seminar, i just can't go on." >> [laughing] >> joyce: now look at me, yeah, you will go on 'cause god is not gonna let you quit. all right, john 6:28, "then they said, what are we to do--" don't you love it? "that we may [habitually] be working the works of god? [what are we to do to carry out what god requires?]" somebody asked me the other day, god's been really dealing with them about waiting on god and spending time in his presence and they said, "what am i supposed to do while i'm waiting on god?" that's the whole point, isn't it? "what are we to do? what is it that god requires?"

and i love this, verse 29, "jesus replied, this is the work, the (service) that god asks of you: that you believe." see, that's such a shock to some of your systems that are workaholics. you're like... >> [laughing] >> joyce: "well, yeah, i believe, but what else?" well, obviously, you know, if god tells us to do something, then we need to be obedient. but a lot of times we're in works of the flesh and then we actually miss the work that god would have us do. we get into, what i call, works that don't work and then we get frustrated because we're not flowing under grace. we're in our own strength trying to be holy ghost junior.

>> [laughing] >> joyce: "now i just wonder if i bought that forgiveness book of joyce's and underlined some stuff and left it laying out on the table at home, i just wonder if my--i just wonder if maybe my husband would read that." >> [laughing] >> joyce: so you get my point. i also love john 11:40, "jesus said to her, did i not tell you and promise you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of god?" isn't that wonderful? "what do you want me to do?" believe. well, every time we set

ourselves to obey, to believe, to receive something by faith, you can count on it, fear will come. fear will come, but we can meet it every time with faith and say, "i will not fear. i will not fear." hebrews 11:1, "now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." now look at that, faith has nothing to do with what we see or what we feel. faith is something in our heart that says in our heart, "god is good. god keeps his word and if god said he'll do this, then i believe he'll do it. i don't care what i see or what i feel like or what anybody says or how long it takes." >> [applauding] >> joyce: you have to understand what faith is because if you think it's something you're supposed to feel, you're gonna miss the whole thing. "i just don't feel like god loves me."

don't ever say that. don't ever say, "i don't feel like god loves me." know the scripture well enough to say, "i don't care how i feel. i am rooted in his love. his love makes me more than a conqueror through christ. god loves me. he loves me unconditionally. when i was still an enemy of the cross, he died for me and loved me." >> [applauding] >> joyce: can i tell you that god will never love you anymore than he does at this moment right now? come on, i said god will never love you anymore than he does at this moment right now. >> [applauding] >> joyce: you say, "well, what about if i behave better?" nope. he won't love you anymore than he does right now. he'll be happy for you because that obedience will open up new levels of what god can do in your life, but he won't love you anymore than he does right now.

god loves, even the person that is unsaved, as much as he loves those of us who think we are the most religious. >> [applauding] >> joyce: we don't obey god to get him to love us. we obey him because he loved us first and we're responding out of that love in amazement that he could love us. fear is the enemy of faith. well, everything has to have an opposing force in the earth and i can't really think of anything that doesn't. you know, for faith to work and be valuable, there has to be fear coming against it. you say, "well, i'd rather not have all this opposition." well, you know what? you might be surprised, if you had no opposition, you might be a worse mess than what you'd-- or we might be worse messes than what we even are. i think of the bee who was taken on a space shuttle into flight

to go to the--some other planet and in the weightless atmosphere with no gravity, they never had to flap a wing, they just floated around in the weightless atmosphere, no opposition, no wing flapping, just floating around. and the end of the story was he enjoyed the ride, but he died. >> [laughing] >> joyce: that's exactly what would happen to us if all we could do is--if all we had to do is just float around. ♪ hallelujah ♪ hallelujah >> [laughing]

>> joyce: ♪ i surrender all if all we had to do was just float around and be spiritual, never have to deal with anything, we would never develop. we wouldn't grow. an eaglet, when it's born, has a little tooth on the end of its beak and when it's still in the egg, it uses that little tooth to peck, peck, peck, peck... i mean hours and sometimes days, peck, peck, peck... pecks and pecks and pecks and finally gets a little crack and then peck and peck and peck and peck and peck, peck, peck... >> [laughing] >> joyce: now, you know the way we are. when we have to peck, peck... we're like "come on, god." >> [laughing]

>> joyce: "enough with the pecking already." >> [laughing] >> joyce: "could you get me out of here?" come on. well, one man reported that he saw the little baby eaglet trying to get out and just decided to help him. well, it didn't work. it died. it needs the opposition to be strong. and we need opposition to be strong. >> [applauding] >> joyce: amen? so just remember the next time things are taking a little longer than you'd like, just say, "devil, i'm gonna keep on pecking, peck, peck, peck... pecking in faith." everything has to have an opposition.

for there to be good, there must be evil, otherwise who would even know what good was? love and hatred, depression, joy, harshness, kindness, noise, quiet, positive, negative, generosity, greed, light, dark, fear, faith, opportunities, adversaries. and, you know, we see that in each one of these, god gives us one and the devil comes against us with the other trying to steal the one that god has given us, but we're gonna keep on pecking. i think i'll change the name of this to "the peck of faith," no. >> [laughing] >> joyce: you know why there's opposing forces? because god does not want robots mechanically serving him because that's all they can do. do you know why god created man?

he wanted fellowship. he created us for relationship. he wanted someone to have a relationship with and so he made us in his image because it's kind of cool if you can fellowship with someone that's kind of like you. now, you know i love my dog, but i don't get the same kind of fellowship with my dog than i do a really good friend. well, sometimes i do, but we won't go there. >> [laughing] >> joyce: okay, god gives these opposing things because he wants us to choose. our choices, the choices that we make, are some of the most important things that we do in our life. every choice is a seed that we sow that brings some kind of harvest in our life.

when we have the privilege of leading people to christ, we always tell them, "this is the most important decision that you will ever make." and you can make a decision to not stand against fear, to just let it go ahead and rule you because it will be a little bit of work to stand against it, maybe a little uncomfortable sometimes but then that's your choice and you will reap the benefit of allowing that fear to stay in our life, which means you won't experience the fullness of everything that god had for you. he'll love you, you'll go to heaven, but there'll be things that you'll miss here that god had planned for you that he won't be able to release to you if you don't learn how to develop your faith and be bold and courageous. i mean, do we honestly think that i could be doing what i'm doing if i was timid and fearful and--? no. not is right, not. i could not. "well, joyce, you're just naturally bold." well, you know, in some ways, i

am, but in some ways, i wasn't. there've been many things that i've had to do afraid, many, many, many things that i've had to do afraid. deuteronomy 30:19, "i set before you life and death, good and evil." "god, couldn't you just give me the good stuff?" "i set before you death and life, good and evil. choose life that you and your descendants may live." we have to be responsible for our choices. amen? well, we like to take responsibility for the good ones the ones that work out good. "oh, yes, the praise the lord." >> [laughing] >> joyce: but we're not always so keen on taking responsibility for the bad ones. let's look at john 14:27, "peace i leave with you; my [own] peace i now give and bequeath unto you.

not as the world gives do i give to you. do not let your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid." "well, i can't help the way i feel." feeling fear is not being afraid. being afraid is caving into the fear and doing what the fear is telling you to do rather than what god is telling you to do. >> [applauding] >> joyce: amen? you need me to say that again? "neither let them be afraid. do not let your heart be afraid." you say, "i can't help the way i feel." we're not talking about the way we feel. you can feel afraid but that doesn't mean you are afraid unless you cave into the fear and do what the fear says instead of what god says. >> [applauding] >> joyce: now, let me be clear,

you know, if you're afraid of deep water, i'm not suggesting you go dive off the diving board tonight to prove something. somebody asked me the other day if i was a good swimmer. i said, "well, let's just put it like this, if i fall in, you better come in too." >> [laughing] >> joyce: but i have no need to do that. that's not something god is telling me to do. i'm talking about the things that god is telling us to do. "fear hath torment," 1 john 4 says. "fear hath torment." now obviously the only way we can ever totally get over fear is to know the perfect love that god has for us. 1 john 4:16-18, "perfect love casteth out fear. and he who has fear has not yet known or had love perfected in them."

so the more we know and have a revelation on how much god loves us, the less we have to be afraid of because we just believe, like a little kid, "my daddy is going to take care of me." >> [applauding] >> joyce: and you know what? to be honest, even if we don't get what we wanted, we don't really even really care all that much, because we trust dad so much that we know that what he gives will be better than what we wanted. >> [applauding] >> joyce: amen? and that just gives us such peace. man, i tell you, when i was struggling to get what i wanted all those years, i was so miserable. and i imagine i got a few people here tonight and you're like right there, like, "yup."

well, you know what? why don't you just give it up? why torment yourself? just say, "god, if this is ever gonna happen, you're the only one that's gonna make it happen and if you want it to happen, nobody's gonna stop it from happening. and if you don't want it to happen, i'm not gonna make it happen." and, you know, probably one of the biggest areas that we fuss and fume over is what we would like to see happen in other people's lives that we love. come on now. don't you miss what i'm saying. i said probably one of the biggest problems that we have is fussing and fuming over what we want to see happen in our kids, in the person we're married to, in our parents. you know what i finally figured out? you can't make somebody love god. i don't care how hard we try, we can't make somebody love god. now, we can live a life in front of them that will make them maybe righteously jealous.

we can be salt, make 'em thirsty, but we can't make 'em make the choice. if god can't make 'em, we sure can't make 'em. it's one of the hardest things to watch somebody that you love make bad decisions. you say, "all i can do is pray." well, let me tell ya something, that's the most powerful thing that we can do. >> [applauding] >> joyce: but still when it comes right down to it, god will protect that person's freedom to make their own choice. amen? when we pray, it gives god an opportunity to work. so keep praying, but losing your joy is not gonna make things any better. "do not let your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. [stop allowing yourselves

to be agitated and disturbed; and do not permit yourselves to be fearful and intimidated and cowardly and unsettled.]" isn't john 14:27 wonderful? so see now, if we put that back up and you look at it realistically, that's giving all of us a responsibility. he didn't say, "pray and i'll make it all go away." you say, "well then, what am i praying for?" for strength, for courage, for confidence, for boldness. >> [applauding] >> joyce: for the power to endure whatever comes with good temper, to never give up, to never quit, to keep a smile on your face, even when you're hurting so bad you feel like you can't stand it, not to be phony, but just to let the devil know he's not gonna get your joy. "and do not [for a moment] be frightened or intimidated in anything by your opponents

and your adversaries, for such [constancy and fearlessness]." when fear comes against us, what should our position be? to remain constant, to keep going forward, to keep putting one foot in front of the other one. "for such [constancy and fearlessness] will be a clear sign, a (proof and a seal) to them, your enemy, of [their impending] destruction, but [a sure token and evidence] of your deliverance and salvation, and that from god." so it's almost like when we're in a battle, there's god's watching and the devil's watching. and if we remain constant and steadfast, it's a sign to god that we really have our faith and confidence in him, but it's a sign to the devil that his day is just about over. >> [applauding] >> joyce: amen?

>> joyce: well, 1 john 4:18 teaches us that perfect love casts out fear. and, you know, you can have confidence that god has a perfect love for you. he has a perfect love for all of us and he is working out everything on our behalf, even when it doesn't look like it. now i want you to remember that. even though, maybe, your circumstances today don't look that great, god loves you and he has a good plan for you and he is working behind the scenes bringing that good plan to pass. but he needs you to get in agreement with him and believe that. i'm offering you some very special resources today, a new devotional called "trusting god day by day." that's one devotional for every day of the year. or just think about it, 365 little mini teachings to keep you on the right track. and then also an audio devotional, a 21-day devotional, on "secrets to trusting god." you know what? we just want to fill you with

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"receiving from jesus." to order these resources, call us toll free at 1-877-901-4300 or visit us at josephprince.org today. >> announcer: today with joseph prince. >> so a covenant is something they use in ancient times, especially in israel, all right? and they call it covenant of blood, all right? in hebrew, beriyth, covenant. what they do is that if two persons cut a covenant, okay what they do is that they do a small incision on their wrist, all right, and the other person cut his wrist, they will join their wrists together, now their blood flow as one. and then they will exchange, all right, their garments. they will take off their outer jacket, pass it to the other person. the person will pass his jacket over, which means your position,

"i'm a beggar, you're a prince, now i have your jacket. i'm no more a beggar, i'm a prince." exchange of positions, amen. then if they have a sword, they will pass your sword you will pass to your friend. your friend will pass his sword to you which means, all right, your battle, your enemies, they are my enemies. it's my battle, all right, and vice versa, okay? when we have a financial need, we don't say, all right, "can you help me?" we say, "where is our wallet?" all right, marriage is a covenant. i said marriage is a covenant. it's not a contract. it is not 50%, 50%. it's 100%, 100%, 'til death do you part. marriage is a covenant, all right, you don't by his towel or hers towel, all right, you buy good morning towel, okay? for our overseas friend, there is a towel in singapore, very popular in the cafes

it's called good morning towel. it washes the junk out of your life. all right, so the thing is that we are one, covenant, amen? and that's why there's an initial shedding of blood, even in the marriage act. it is all ordained by god because it is not an agreement, it is a covenant. so you join hands, blood flows. from now on, we are blood brothers, amen? that happened to david and jonathan. look up here, 1 samuel 18, "now when david had finished--" now david just killed goliath. look at the picture up here, david and goliath. david killed goliath. he was a 17-year-old boy at this time. he knocked down this nearly 10-footer, all right, ugly, ugly creature called goliath, and goliath came tumbling down. and david knocked him down with one stone. now, david understood covenant. why do i say that? that's why the giant

went down because david used covenant language. he look at the giant who was challenging israel for 40 days and david said, "who is this uncircumcised philistine?" in those days, israel is marked by circumcision. all right, those in covenant with god are those marked by circumcision in those days. so the fact that david says, "who is this uncircumcised philistine?" tells us that david is conscious. we are god's covenant people. today we must have this consciousness, "how dare this disease attack my family. how dare this disease attack this child of god." we must have this same attitude. like jesus said of the woman who was bowed down for 18 years, "how can this woman being a daughter of abraham, how can she be bound any further? should she not be loosed?" that's the attitude you must have. we are god's covenant people. how dare this uncircumcised philistine. amen. how dare the devil come against you. amen, are you listening people? and that's the reason why the giant came down. i might touch on david

another day. we have preached on david a lot. we used this--by the way, the backdrop is real, okay, that's where it happened, the story of the valley of elah, where david knocked down goliath. that's the backdrop, all right, we just superimposed the drawings on it, okay? so right after he killed goliath, you know, that he cut off goliath's head and all israel charged against the philistines who ran away from them. and they went for quite a journey and killed the philistines and david was brought before king saul, the first king of israel. he was holding the head of goliath, this big head, you know, right in his hand and he was standing before the king, all right? during this time in 1 samuel 18, "now when david had finished speaking to saul, the soul of jonathan was knit to the soul of david," jonathan is king saul's son. he's a prince, all right, heir to the throne. saul had three sons and two daughters, one of them is michal, all right? three sons and the oldest

is jonathan. in other words, jonathan is in line for the throne, right? and here "jonathan loved him as his own soul. saul took him that day, would not let him go home to his father's house." next verse. "then jonathan and david made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul. and jonathan took off the robe that was on him," remember covenant, "and gave it to david, all right, with his armor, even to his sword, his bow and his belt." in other words, "my position as a prince, i give you," and david will have to give his shepherd's garb, outward garb, all right, his position. and then he gave him his sword, his bow. which means what? your battle, david, your enemies are my enemies. unfortunately in a short time after this, saul made, himself the king, made himself david's enemy. he was jealous of david because right after the defeat of goliath, the women started writing a new song, all right? and all the ladies started singing and dancing with a tambourine singing, "saul killed a thousand,

but david killed ten-thousand." and, of course, lah, it became the billboard, you know, number-one hit of israel at that time. when saul heard that song, he was so angry and the bible says he eyed david from that day forward. just a word to all of you, all right, remember as a leader, your success as a leader is that you raise leaders. you're not ashamed. you're not afraid to have a leader more handsome than you doing holy communion before you come up, all right, whose body and biceps you cannot compare with, you know? his bicep is my thigh, you know, i mean, you know what i'm saying? you look at some of my leaders, i'm secure by the grace of god. and some leaders, they are so insecure, they must have people that they feel are less talented, less gifted than they are. but this is another message altogether, okay, it's a lesson in leadership and i'm telling my leaders all the time, if i don't see talents coming in

and all that, you are insecure, all right? you're another king saul. and what did king saul do when he was jealous of david, all right? the bible says an evil spirit came on him. when he was insecure, an evil spirit came on him and david will play the harp. all right, in times past when david played the harp, that was before david killed goliath, all right? when david played the harp, the evil spirit will leave but this time, all right, he became even more crazy, insane, all right, and he will take his javelin, aim for david and david would duck, time and time again. now, how do you like serving an employer who's always shooting you down? i mean, david's case is life and death. you never know when he's gonna joom. he always has his javelin near him, all right? and according to his mood, he will just, you know, let go of that javelin towards your direction. how do you feel serving someone who's throwing javelins at you? and yet david honored king saul, okay?

now, i'm getting ahead of myself, but looking at this story, you know, that it's a beautiful relationship. jonathan loved david, david loved jonathan. it is a genuine friendship. you know, we cannot even say, "i love you" anymore. we gotta say, we write cards and all that, "i love--" or we text, "i love you with the love of the lord." you know, i know you love me with the love of the lord, but what's wrong with saying, "i love you"? guys, you know, i'm talking about guys. now don't write "i love you" to an opposite sex. that one you can write, "i love you with the love of the lord" to make sure they understand. that all my leaders have heard me share before, okay? in fact, i shared this sermon, when i first shared this sermon, it was in the 1980s, all right, in a church camp environment, and then i preached a sermon in 2004 called "the covenant of grace and the kindnesses of god." but it's not broadcast quality. it's not even dvd quality,

all right? now i got so much more in my spirit that i want to share with you. and we have learned that it's okay for guys to tell one another, "hey, i love you." but instead we say, "yo, you're the man. you're the man, man." and this guy says, "no, no, you're the man. you're the man. yeah, oh, boom. whoo," you know? that's how guys express. "whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa." and then inside you don't feel like you have expressed to the person that you love the person. what's wrong with saying, "i love you"? real men are secure. stop worrying about what people think, amen? it's okay for men to say, "i love you, i love you, man." amen? i love you, bro. all right, praise god. now that sound like a man, okay, so i received that. if it was a lady that sounds like a man, it's gotta be with the love of the lord, amen?

okay, so david loved jonathan, jonathan loved david and jonathan, in many ways--i won't be going through all that. all right, you take your time to read the story of david, especially this year. you'll find that jonathan loved david to the point that he actually helped david to understand the father's moods. he will say, "this is not the right time to be here," all right? and but the father became increasingly insane, actually, all right, became--he had seasons of insanity and he will just be, you know, lunging this javelin towards david and finally david realized he cannot stay around anymore, all right? so he told jonathan that and jonathan says, "i understand," all right? and jonathan said to david something in the field one day they met out there in the open field. david says, "look, i cannot be in the palace anymore," all right, david was afraid. it's really silly of this king because david was a giant killer.

david would lead his armies, saul's armies, into battle and win battle after battle. it's silly to kill the one who's winning battles for you, but that's what insecurity will do. amen? so david told jonathan he cannot hang around anymore and jonathan made him promise something. all right, look up here in 1 samuel 20, jonathan is talking here. he told david, "you shall not only show me the kindness of the lord while i still live, that i may not die; but you shall not cut off your kindness from my house forever, no, not when the lord has cut off every one of the enemies of david from the face of the earth." wow, that included his father because the father has made himself david's enemy. look up here, church, as far as i know, i don't have any enemies. i'll tell you right now before god, okay? now i do not know people who consider me their enemy. i know there are people

who make themself my enemies. no matter how much i try to reach out to them, all right, i always ended up like, you know? but never mind, as far as i know on my part, i have no enemies. on david's part he has no enemies but saul made himself david's enemy and here jonathan is telling david, the time will come god will cut off all of david's enemies. jonathan had a prophetic insight into david's future. now, don't forget, when king saul dies, who will take over? who is the heir to the throne? jonathan. of all the people, all right, it should be jonathan who should have been jealous of david, but here you have jonathan encouraging david that he will be king one day, that god will cut off his enemies. "but when that happened, david, don't forget to show kindnesses, the kindnesses of the lord to me and to my family," he says here. all right, even after he's gone. it's almost like intuitively

he knows he's gonna die. and it says, "don't forget my family, to show the kindnesses." now the word "kindnesses" there in the hebrew is the word "hesed," which is the word "grace, grace." you know in today, if you go to israel and you meet messianic believers, jewish believers, you ask them for their new testament, it is in hebrew. if you look at the word "grace" in the new testament, every time the word "grace" appears, even in paul's writings, it is always hesed. hesed is grace. when david says, "thy loving kindnesses is better than life," it is your hesed is better than life. the psalms are full of hesed, full of grace. his mercies are new every morning. the word "mercy" there, all right, is hesed. his mercies endure forever. his grace, his hesed endures forever. "so david, don't cut off your grace from my family." and the next day there was one

last chance for david to say, you know, jonathan says, "let's see if my father would repent, change his mind about you. all right, so david don't come back to the palace yet, but what we'll do is that i'll be doing some archery, my father will be there. all right, if i see my father has not changed his heart towards you, all right, i'll be shoot three arrows into the sky and then i'll tell my guard to go get the arrows. if i say the arrows are on the side. if i shout to the guard, the arrows are on the side, david, that means what? come back, all right, david come back, my father has changed his mind, all right? but if i shoot the arrows far away and i tell my guard, all right, go fetch the arrows, they are far away, that means, david, go far away and don't come back," jonathan said. so the next day he shot the arrows and he shot--before that, the night before he talked to his father again about david, and this time the father took the javelin and the father aimed the javelin at jonathan,

and jonathan realized. and the bible says jonathan was ashamed of his fathers behavior. it's in the bible. it says he was ashamed of the father's behavior towards david, and jonathan realized there's no way david can come back to the palace. so the next day during his archery practice-- by the way, i need to tell you this, jonathan is no wimp. he's not a softy of a prince. he's a warrior. all right, before the story of david and goliath, there is a story of jonathan and his armor bearer and how only two of them climbed the steep side slope of a mountain, a hill called michmash or some will call it a mountain. i have been there. my leaders have been there. we have seen that steep hill, all right, only we stop short of climbing it. and the bible says the enemies, the philistines were encamped on the other side. they never expect anybody to climb up the steep hill. but jonathan and his

armor bearer climbed that steep hill and only 2 of them killed 20 philistines up there. so he is no wimp. he's a fighter. he's a warrior, all right? i need to tell you that. so during his archery practice, he shot three arrows way beyond and probably with tears in his eyes told his guard and he shouted, "run, don't return." that's in the bible. and it's very--you know when i read that even yesterday, all right, during my time of preparation, my heart just, you know, i just felt like there were tears in jonathan's eyes. run, run, run, run and don't return. and the father thought he was referring to the guard. but you know what david did? david stayed in the bushes until the father left. and the bible says jonathan went down there to see if david was there and he saw david and david wept on jonathan. that was the last time they saw each other, okay?

and the bible tells us time and time again, david, y'all know the story, he went into the cave of adullam, all right, the 3d army came to him, everyone in distress, in debt, discontented. they became his mighty men and they would defend david with their lives. they were faithful to david. now why am i saying david knows covenant? because if we understand what he understood, you and i, you know today we will understand the covenant that we have with god. you see saul represents the human race, okay? we are all insane in some ways. you know how they define insanity? to keep on doing the same thing again and again and again and expecting a different result. that's insanity. all have sinned and come short of the glory of god. we are doing things that destroy us and we don't even care.

and we don't care that we don't care, but god cares for you and god loves you. so saul represents the entire fallen human race. but from saul's family, from the human race, there was a young man called jonathan. jonathan is a picture of yonatan in hebrew, the name means a gift of god. he represents jesus christ. don't forget, jesus christ came as a man. the bible says his body was in the likeness of sinful flesh. he did not have sinful flesh. he came in the likeness of sinful flesh. he lived among us. he lived as a human being. he was from saul's family. jesus came representing the human race, but there was no sin in him. he knew no sin. he did no sin. amen? and david, who is david? david is a picture of god. all right, in fact there's

a verse in zachariah 12 that says, "the house of david shall be as god." so in typology, all right, david is a man, but he's a picture of god. you understand? so god the father, god the son, representing the human race, cut a covenant. our new covenant is not the covenant of the law that moses cut on behalf of israel. that was an infallible god with sinful man. how many know it's gone beyond the year, all right, you know, that they will break it? all right, not even a month passed, not even a week passed, there's a golden calf. that was a covenant. covenant of the law, the ten commandments, is god cutting covenant with man, sinful man. but our new covenant and the main clause of the new covenant is that i'll be merciful to your unrighteousnesses, and your sins i will remember no more, because of what jesus did. and this covenant,

this new covenant is cut between god the father and man, but which man? the perfect man, god the son, jesus christ. but in this case, we don't see him as god but as man on our behalf representing us. how many understand that? so like david and jonathan cut the covenant, okay, likewise god has cut a covenant with you. "but pastor, i don't remember cutting a covenant with god." in your representative, his name is jesus. all right, you are the sleeping partner. you are the beneficiary. are you with me, church? all right, let's go on. now, by the way, david's mighty men, they were growing in power. they were killing giants already. they were with david. in fact, one of david's men, mighty men, killed goliath's brothers, all right? so the thing is this, they are giant killers now. they are following david in the wilderness and david could have killed saul

on numerous occasions. one time saul went into the cave of ein gedi, many of you have been there in israel, ein gedi and the bible says to ease himself. now whatever you know about easing yourself, okay? so it wasn't a very pleasant place to be. david and his men were hiding in deep in the deep recesses of the cave. the cave is still there, but the roof has broken down in ein gedi and the water is flowing. that's the same place. you will look up and you'll see that the remnants of the cave that broke, okay, it's still there in ein gedi. so saul went in to ease himself and david and his men were hiding inside and abishai, one of david's mighty men, he said to david, "david." he was not a bit shy to tell david this. "kill him, he's here now. kill him." david says, "no, no one can stretch his hand against the lord's anointed." david called saul the lord's anointed. this guy who is now demon possessed, who already gone insane, all right, david called him the lord's anointed.

"how can you stretch your hand against the lord's anointed?" all right, so another time god caused a deep sleep to fall on saul and all his men. by the way, saul was pursuing david, all right? and david came into the camp with abishai and all the mighty men and again abishai saw saul sleeping and all his guards and all that were all sleeping, a deep sleep fell on them. my friend, god gives deep sleep. if you got a problem with sleep, ask god for deep sleep, but not now. god caused a deep sleep to fall on adam and ever since, man cannot go into deep sleep. >> announcer: thank you for tuning into our broadcast. you have watched highlights of a sermon by joseph prince. to order an audio cd of the full sermon, which is approximately 60 minutes long, call the toll-free number at 1-877-901-4300 or log onto josephprince.org now.

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hi. i'm martina. and i'm maddy. what you think you see isn't always what's real. shh. [laughter] martina, the other day when me and my mom and my brother went shopping--well, we were shopping for undershirts. maddy: my brother thought i wanted a blue one, but really, i wanted a white one. so since my mom got... [cheering] [loud cheering] martina, are you paying attention? uh, yeah. no, you're not. yeah. your brother, he-- whatever. well, i was concentrating on my homework. [maddy scoffs] can't you pay attention to me and your homework at the same time? yeah, i can. i wonder if there's a way we could test that. test what? you're not listening again, silly. how well can people pay attention to two things at once? maddy: for our test, we decided to get a bunch of kids together and have them play with a soccer ball. they'll focus on passing the ball.

martina: they'll think that we're collecting soccer information, but we'll actually be testing them on something else. it's called a blind experiment. we'll let them in on the secret at the end. we'll actually be testing them on what they remember about a distraction. someone will show up that has nothing to do with the soccer game. and we thought of the perfect person. hi. i'm lana. we'll have lana juggle around the soccer game to see if our friends will notice her. maddy, voice-over: martina and i made a list of questions to ask each soccer player separately. we want to see what each person thought the juggler looked like. how about headwear? ok, headwear. we cut out paper clothes so our friends can show us how they remember the juggler.

finally, we are ready for our experiment. ok, guys, thanks for coming out. here's the scoop. you're going to pass the ball to each other. we'll be recording on how many times you kick the ball. [blows whistle] go! players: 3, 4! start over. 5... 6, 7, 8... 12. 13, 14-- ok, you can come out now. that's 23. is it? yeah. 3, 4, 5... start over. let's try to get 30 this time! players: 18, 19, 20, 21, 22. 10. [blows whistle]

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ñçñs dragonfly tv! [children screaming] wow, that looks like a really scary roller-coaster. yeah, ghostrider's pretty cool, but supreme scream beats it all. [children scream] well, all i know is, after riding that thing, my heart is going to be racing. i wonder if our hearts race more on the rides we think are really scary. let's get our friends together and find out. ok. come on, you guys. for our investigation, we're going to go on

3 different rides... christopher: ghostrider, boomerang, and the third is supreme scream. the first step is to take and record our resting heart rates. christopher: ok, guys, listen up. to take your pulse, take two fingers and place them on your neck. then count each beat for 15 seconds. whatever number you guys got, just multiply it by 4. ready? begin. boy: before each ride, christopher and zahabiya will collect everyone's heart rate. after the rides, they'll get heart rates again, plus each kid's rating on how scary the rides were. on our data card, there's a scream o'meter chart. wimpy rides get one scream with scarier rides getting up to 5 screams. so the more you scream, the better. oh, i won't have a problem with that. whoo-hoo! whoo! let's go! bye. here we go. whoo! [children screaming]

whoa! whoa! whoa! that was great. christopher: we're going to do the same thing as earlier-- check our pulse and see how many beats you have this time for 15 seconds. boy, voice-over: when the riders take their pulse after the ride, they can compare it to their first pulse rate and find the increase. christopher and zahabiya will collect the pulse changes from each frame. now, how scary was the ride? sort of scary. two screams. i got average scary--3 screams. i rated it two screams. we are now going to go on boomerang. let's go. [children scream]

that was great. i bet my pulse is up now. stop. i think the scariest part about boomerang is probably that you go backwards. all right, this is our next ride, supreme scream. whoo! whoo! yeah! this is really going to pump up my heart rate. really. here we go. this is the big one. ooh. oh... oh, my... we're going up high. whoa! [screams] that was so much fun. let's take our pulse now. you ready? 1, 2, 3.

it was scary. it was fun, though. that one really got my heart racing. let's look at the results. ok. boy, voice-over: christopher and zahabiya calculate the average scream rating for each ride and record it on their graph as a blue bar. christopher: so the rating for ghostrider was 2.4. zahabiya: mm-hmm. ok, the rating for boomerang was 2.6. yes. and the rating for supreme scream was 3.7. boy, voice-over: then they calculate the average increase in pulse for each ride. now, the pulse for ghostrider was 33.5. mm-hmm. christopher: boomerang was 46.8, and last, supreme scream-- the pulse for that was 54. yeah. ok, so it all seems to make sense. the ride that was scariest, supreme scream, made our heartbeat rise the most. and for the rating, ghostrider had a rating of 2.4, and boomerang had a rating of 2.6.--they're very, very close. but when you got to supreme scream, it had a rating

of 3.7.--that's much higher. so does being scared make your heart go faster, or does your heart beating faster make you scared? we don't know. we just know that they're related. so now we need to do more research? hmm. that flume ride's looking good about now. sounds good to me. the last one has to buy cotton candy. wait, no way! [children screaming] child: how far does the average person walk in their lifetime? 15,000 miles, 115,000 miles, 1,150,000 miles. 115,000 miles. dragonfly tv!

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pick your [bleep] up. you're not [bleep] sittin' here. yes, i am. [laughter] move. move. [laughter/indistinct chatter] bully: give it to him hard. no, no, no, oww. announcer: every day, kids witness bullying... boy: why are you stabbing me with it? no! announcer: they want to help, but don't know how. no! oww. ohh, you guys... announcer: teach your kids how to be more than a bystander. visit stopbullying.gov. dragonfly tv! martina, voice-over: we told our friends to play soccer and had lana juggle

around the circle. when you were playing soccer, did you notice anything unusual? uh, not really. no. not really. not much. no, not really. it was kind of strange. when we asked them if they saw anything unusual, they said no. i wonder why that is. did you see any people walking by? yeah, i saw a juggler. well, this one person came through, like, juggling or something. well, there was that juggler. i think it was a juggler. but when we asked them if they saw any people, they said they saw a juggler. they didn't think that was unusual? was it a boy or a girl? a girl. a girl. a girl. a girl, i think. a girl. a girl. describe the shirt. uh...i think it was a green short sleeve. i think she had yellow on. i think white.

red. i think she was wearing a white shirt. everybody guessed short-sleeved shirt. no one got the real color, though. i think they were, like, black pants. did she have shorts or pants? shorts. i think it was some yellow, long. she was wearing shorts. pants. color? blue. um, what color was her hair? oh, blond. kind of blackish. orangish/reddish. well, was she wearing, like, a hat or something? no. i have absolutely no idea. was she wearing a hat? mm-hmm. ok, what color was that hat? green. green? no, i don't think she did. i don't think so. one kid guessed that there was a hat on her head, which was right. maybe they thought that the hat was her hair. maddy: kind of strange, though.

how many things was she juggling? 5. it was 3, i think. ok. can you pick out the colors? they were all white. they were all, like, green. [camera shutter clicks] is that good? can you see her? or do you need to zoom a little? maddy: thank you very much. ok, here are your pictures. caroline? hey, there's the juggler! so you all have your description of what you thought she looked like, and here is the real lana. boy: is that what you were wearing the whole time? i thought she was wearing white. girl: i thought you were wearing red. i got one thing right. i got a lot things right. what a puzzle. yeah.

these descriptions are so different, but they were all in the same place. well, maybe they were so interested in their soccer game that they didn't notice. you know, in real life, they do this. they ask the witnesses if they saw anything. unless they were prepared for the burglary, they'd be off just like our friends. yeah. it's hard to pay attention to details when we do more than one thing at a time, but can we play soccer and juggle at the same time? now, that's an investigation. to see what the brain is doing, we use functional m.r.i.

m.r.i. stands for "magnetic resonance imaging." that means they use a big magnet. thanks, heidi. my daughter likes to help out in the lab. as you can see, the magnet is pretty strong. it is so strong, it can detect magnetic properties in blood. here's how it works. once the person enters the machine, we ask them to perform a series of tasks. blood rushes to the area of the brain that's working. the m.r.i. machine can sense that blood flow. in this case, we asked our subject to look at lights. you can see there's increased activity here where the brain processes what you see. then we asked our subject to think of words, and we can see activity where the brain processes language. the m.r.i. lets us map what part of the brain is usedd for talking, seeing, listening, moving your body, and more. ultimately, this information will help us discover ways to

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hi. my name is idit harel. i'm the ceo and chairman of mamamedia. at mamamedia, we develop activities and projects for kids on the internet. many people differentiate between learning and entertainment, and in my mind, all of these things are very strongly interconnected. i really think that everybody, from a very young age, should feel comfortable with technology, should feel comfortable with computers, and learn how to play with it and use it for different kinds of activities, especially creative activities. my mission is to create actitities and projects and environments for kids in the digital network that is actually integrating fun with the hard stuff of figuring things out. we connect ourselves to the science of human behavior

or the science of thinking or the way the mind works. the biggest challenge is to think like a kid on one hand but like a scientist, an inventor, or a publisher on the other hand. our group here is interested in the ways we can use technology and online activities to help boys and girls connect with technology in a very flexible and comfortable way. so 10 different bots, 5 kind of blocks, action. the best part about this job is our ability to make something out of nothing, to come up with an idea, then after 24, 48, or 72 hours, it's there, online, published, and thousands of kids can use it right away. what drives me today is probably the same thing that drove me as a little girl, is the joy of coming up with ideas and pursuing them.

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"ricki" we're crossing over with medium maureen hancock. - you know he had a mad crush on you, right? - yeah, he did. - i'm trying to keep him from saying what i'm hearing. like, "i'm watching you in the shower." - no, he's not. - that would be josh. - and world-renowned psychic james van praagh is calling on the spirits. - i have her mother here and she wants to give love to my betty. - oh my gosh, that's my grandmother. - okay, so betty needs to hear this. uh, i'm gonna cry. - plus how going to sleep can help you connect with the dead. - people can invite their departed loved ones into their dream state. - how? on "ricki." - ( theme music playing ) - ( applause )

- oh my god! oh my god. yeah yeah yeah yeah. baby! you're here! thank you for coming. great to have you guys. how are we doing? it's like you just woke up. great to have you guys. have a seat. thank you so much. the spirit world often is imagined as a strange, creepy realm filled with ghosts whose only job is to haunt and scare you. but what if those spirits were actually trying to tell you something? would you listen? today with the help of two dynamic mediums, maureen hancock and james van praagh, we are crossing over to the other side to hear what the spirits have to say. - he's right next to you, which i would see as like a best friend, that's what it feels like. do you understand? and i think there were unanswered questions around his passing. do you understand? - yes. - he keeps putting question marks around it and holding out his hands. and usually that's like if he takes a little bit of responsibility and do you understand that? - yeah. - he's funny. he's way funnier than you.

you know this, right? - yeah, he's something else. - and he said he's better looking. sorry. there's an impact passing connected as well. do you understand my head? - yeah. - okay, and is that male though? - that's my dad. - oh wow, so that-- - yeah, he had a very violent death. he was shot. - yeah so-- he was shot, okay. my head hurts really bad. - oh yeah. - but it's been a long time for him. do you know someone that passed by hanging? - uh, yes. - okay. it was the person that killed my dad. - ( audience ooohs ) - wow, i have chills. wow. please welcome author of "the medium next door" maureen hancock. i always love having you. welcome back. but watching those clips, even though i lived that moment, watching it back, it still sends shivers up and down my spine. - me too. - do you remember it? i mean does it seem like it was yesterday for you? - it seems like it was yesterday and when it's a tragic passing

it's almost like i can feel it so strongly. so it's hard to sometimes let it go. - all right, well, our audience today is filled with people hoping to connect with loved ones on the other side. you have not received any information from people here today. - no. - all right, are you ready? - i'm ready! - you've turned it on? - are you ready? - i'm ready. all right, do you want to just go where you're drawn? - yeah, i'm just gonna go where i feel it. and so what i do is kinda flip a switch and then it's really up to them. i start to hear a lot of voices. it's quiet here and it sounds like the mall at christmas time in my head. so they're all trying to get through, so you have to know that. if someone doesn't come through, it doesn't mean that they don't love you or they're not trying. so, um, i actually keep getting a pull over here. you both understand-- shooting-- there's one here i have-- - my best friend was shot in the head. - all right, come up here. and then possibly a little bit different.

i think there were unanswered questions around this passing. you're-- this male? you understand male to you? you were together? - my brother. - okay, 'cause when i see this, that's definitely husband, brother, brother-in-law. so you're-- i think her brother's coming through first. because you sat together and you have this in common, they're gonna bounce back and forth. but can i have you right here? and i think somebody has a cross tattoo for him? do you understand that? why don't you come right next to her? - wow. - so his brother has the celtic cross tattoo? - mm-hmm. he got it right after he passed. he passed about a year ago in november. - he was, um-- - don't tell me. i want to tell you. - okay. - let his brother know that he's acknowledging the tattoo that he got for him. he said that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. he wasn't even supposed to be where he was. - he wasn't. - you understand that? tell me what he means by "he wasn't supposed to be there.

it was the wrong place at the wrong time." - one of his friends wanted him to go by this one house and he didn't want to go there. and he went there and the guy started shooting at his friend. and he went in to save his friend and his friend lived and he got shot in the head and died. - oh wow. please know that he's definitely with you a lot. um, he's definitely watching over you-- i mean i just feel like he's like "cool, this is awesome! whatever." - that's how he was. - you know he had a mad crush on you, right? - yeah, he did. - i'm trying to keep him from saying what i'm hearing. like, "i'm watching you in the shower." - yeah. that would be josh. - no, he's not. no. - that would be josh so much. - but he said he had a crush on her? - he said he had a mad crush on you and you know that. - oh my god. - so give me a hug from heaven. tell everyone he's okay. - i'm gonna tell his family. - okay? thank you. - thank you. - oh my gosh. so. it feels like it's been some time for your brother passed. and you understand. like he just feels just so different.

like the energy just shifted, like "i'm fine. it's been awhile, you know." i feel like he's with a father figure... - my dad. - ...as well, your dad is there. um, there are-- even though it's been some time, he is showing me these question marks around this. that there is a lot of questions. it's very intricate to me too about what happened. and i get the weirdest feeling, like maybe he put himself in this predicament of something. it feels off to me a little bit. do you understand? you have a super strong grandmother coming through as well, i feel like, on your mother's side, holding up the cross. okay, she's really strong. there's a "five" connection? five kids or five of one sex. um, jot it down. you'll be able to put it together later. it was when your grandmother started to come through so i don't know if she had five kids. - yes, she did. - she did, okay. just telling you that everything's okay. your brother's okay. is anyone, like, antonio or ant--

antoine? - that's my brother. - antonio is your brother. because i'm right here i can start to pick up from your energy. so to me there was a lot of energy around the name antonio. so they're trying to help him. he's at a crossroads in his life right now. and i feel like they're trying to pick him up. and i have another grandmother coming through telling me that. and you try to fix everybody. well, you can't fix everybody. it's not your job. look at me, getting all attitude with her. you know. - does that sound right? - yes, i have a-- - stand up, stand up. you have to come here. - my brother is challenged. so it's always been-- since i'm the oldest and the oldest grandchild-- to kinda like be the one that keeps everyone together and to try to get everybody focused, so. - yeah. yeah well, you're doing a great job and just know that sometimes you can step back, that this is what antonio and everybody is supposed to go through in this life for their soul's growth. he is an amazing amazing kid.

i just say kid because he's so kid-like, you know. but they watch over him big-time. and-- and coming back to you. your brother-- gosh. has it been over 10 years? - it's been almost 20. - almost 20. because he went like this, past the 10-year mark. um, he's saying "two kids, two kids." - my two boys. - your two boys. - i ask him every night if he watches my two sons. - he absolutely-- oh my god, now i'm making her cry. um, you know what? he definitely watches over them and protects them. you know, one more than the other-- the daredevil kid. i'm seeing my younger son, like "whoo!" - he's my younger son. - so take this into your heart that your boys are being watched over. and you know you can step back and let people experience what they need to, instead of having the disease to please and wanting everybody to be okay. - mm-hmm. - give me a hug from heaven. - great job, maureen! - ugh. - thank you. - more audience readings with maureen when we come back. don't go away.

- you know, he is thanking you for getting him here today because he came kicking and screaming. - i did. - isn't that true? - yes. - how do you feel now? - embarrassed. - and later... - i had a dream about my brother. i was in this building and i was reaching to pick something up and something told me to look straight. and i could see my brother. and when i saw him i just kind of-- i collapsed. - what does that mean? donuts? ♪ you're cute. [ door closes ] [ female announcer ] new special k proteicereal helps keep you fuller longer. willpower. what will you gain when you lose?

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♪ so let's talk about your bum on facebook. let busy treats entertain your dog with playful shapes, long lasting layers, savory flavors, and mesmerizing textures. get busy. the world's most entertaining treats. - okay, more readings. where do you want to go from here? - oh, where do i want to go? let's see. oh, everybody's looking. um... let's see, i'm drawn over here. hmmm. has dad passed for you?

- pardon? - has dad passed for you? - yes. - are you okay with this? - yes. - okay. so let me have you come right down. make your way through. are you together? - yes, all four-- five of us. - okay, but are you related? i want you to be with him if you are. - all right, see ya. you are? come. - hi. how you doing? were you hoping to be pulled down? - i want the wife too. - no. - so you're-- this is a good example of in life, your father would never do this. he wouldn't believe this. you don't believe it. you were dragged here. we're doing this. - true. - so, you know, i just totally just didn't expect it, but your dad is trying to tell you he's proud of you because he never got to tell you that. so it just feels like you think he missed out on so much and that's not the truth. i'm getting-- you have children? - yes. - you have two kids? - yes. - okay. um, you know, it's very interesting. sometimes from the heavens or beyond is when they have more of a voice.

so it's like-- he's just like, "you know what? we didn't-- we didn't have proper closure, so why not do it right here on 'the ricki lake show'?" - wow. - so give me a hug from heaven. - thank you. - wow wow. - yeah, he's just very private. - yes, he was. - and so-- and, you know, he is thanking you for getting him here today because he came kicking and screaming. - i did. - isn't that true? - yes. - what did he say when you said come to this? he says "i don't know." and i'm like, "come on. it's our anniversary. let's do something this weekend." - see? - how do you feel now? - embarrassed. - you should feel loved from the heavens. thank you so much. - thank you. - you are very open, so thank you. - thank you so much. whoo, wow. - okay. - happy anniversary, indeed. - i keep hearing "my mother's here. my mother's here." this is about-- this is a child in heaven. it definitely feels like a young, um,

young child. i keep getting the pull back here again though. - my first baby passed away. - was that a boy? - yes. - okay, so-- and this might not be connected to her. but brian or ryan is connected as well-- living. so let me have you come over here. - we-- - please. because sometimes too, because you're the messenger. and i just connected with this group here and you came with them? - mm-hmm. - okay, you came with the big skeptic, right? - yes. - so it opens up the energy for that group. god love ya. so you become a messenger for your sister. and even though when babies come through, they're super fast, 100 miles an hour, let her know that he's okay, that watches over her. um, there's a two or a twin connection as well. does she have two children now? - she had two more after him. - she had two after. so that he watches over those children. and i do feel like...

did he pass like right at birth? - close to it. he was nine weeks. - i s-- he was? - nine weeks old. - nine weeks old. okay. - mm-hmm. - 'cause i see a full-term baby. so super fast. is mom passed for you? though? - my mother? no. - okay. there's a mother figure trying to come through for you. is-- you four are together? is mom passed? okay. come back over. because she didn't get a chance to talk because the electrician guy was coming through. - really? - oh yeah, that's what happens. so she must have tried to move out of the way and she had illness, your mom? - yes. - 'cause she just said "i'm not sick anymore!" - no. - "and it's wonderful." and she's thanking you for everything that you did for her. right by her side, that's what she said. - exactly. you were right by her side. she's funny. she has a little kick to her. because she's like, "why did everyone tell me that i needed to go? i'll go when i'm ready." so-- telling, "it's okay to go, mom!" - i did say that. - and it took her a few days after that. and you understand that?

- yes. - okay, she's got the best smile. she's like, "you don't understand." and how good she feels. she never complained, right? - no no. - not a day. - she's strong. - even now i'm asking her, "what was going on?" she's like, "you never mind. i'm fine. what do you want to eat?" she wants to cook for me. so... so cute. - how do you ask her? if you're talking to us, how are you asking her? - oh, in my head i'm actually talking to her, like, "what was going on?" "illness." like, "what was it?" "oh, you never mind." you know, we're just having this conversation in my head where it's fast bits of information that come in. it's not a full-blown, like, "how are ya? it's been awhile." you know? - it's quick, it's quick. - it's quick and fleeting. and she's talking about her brother. so does she have a brother that passed? - yes. - okay, before her. - yes. - so she was very excited to see her brother because it feels like it had been awhile, like-- ( gasps ) "everybody was here." i feel like her mother was there. um, i think she had a parent that you didn't know? - my... her... first father.

yes. - because she's showing me everybody's here. "oh but, you know, she wouldn't know this one." - no. - so she is so happy to make the connection. and please let your sister know that her baby came through. um, also, is anyone "al"? al, alice? - my husband's alvin, but-- - he's alvin? - yes. - okay, you think-- i don't know the full name, excuse me. the skeptic is alvin? - yes. - to give me a hug from heaven. - yay, hugs from heaven for everyone. amazing. do your dreams hold messages for you that could change your life? find out how to unlock the mysteries of your mind with the help from dream analyst cynthia richmond when we come back. - so something's coming out of your unconscious or subconscious mind in this dream to remind you of something. was there anything that divided your family, mother and sister one direction,

you and father in another direction?

- have you ever had a dream where you're being chased and you stay in one spot, you're falling or you're flying? have you ever had one of those dreams? yeah? or you're trying to scream but you can't make a sound? our next guest says those are all messages from your subconscious. not only are they trying to tell you something, but you have the power to change your life just by deciphering their meaning.

please welcome the author of "the dream power journal," board-certified behavioral therapist and dream analyst cynthia richmond. hi, cynthia. i am so fascinated by dreams even though i rarely remember mine. - yes. - rarely! - well, you're very busy. and sometimes when we're very very active, we don't take time in the morning to let them settle in. we jump out of bed and say, "what day is it? - where do i need to be?" - is that my problem? - but you can learn to remember them if you just have a little time to pay attention. - okay okay. so what are our dreams telling us? - our dreams are messages not just from the subconscious, but from sacred sources as well, such as angels. 245 mentions of dreams in the king james version of the bible. so we've had dreams in our lives since adam and eve. and they're messages of sometimes warning, guidance, sometimes creativity, inspiration. many inventors dream up the next step in their invention. there are lots of musicians who dream lyrics and melodies. so we can all use our dreams to improve the quality of our life.

- what about winning lotto? - that has happened. - really? - it has never happened to me. but i did-- i wrote for the "l.a. times" for many years and a man wrote in that he had won-- dreamt the jockeys and the horses and then won a whole bunch of money. and another fellow won $66 million by dreaming the lottery tickets. that was in "enquirer" magazine. - unbelievable. - yes. - okay well, the source was "the enquirer" so you know. - it could happen. - all right, well, how do you use your intuition to help you in dream interpretation? - yes. it's just amazing. the more we listen to that intuitive voice and act on it, the more open we become and the more we get. so in dream interpretation, there's symbols and meanings that are commonly understood and there's also personal associations to every symbol. so we can interpret the dream in at least two ways. but if you can bring your intuition into it, you'll get a much deeper, much guided from heaven kind of interpretation of guidance. - okay. we have a few members of our audience that want to find out what the meaning of their dreams are. okay, where's briana? briana's over here. okay.

you had a night-- you've had the same recurring nightmare? - can you stand up, briana, so i can see the-- thank you, sweetie. - tell us, what is your nightmare? - ever since i was eight years old, i've had this dream that i'm at some type of water park. it's me, my dad, my mom and my little sister. we're on an inner tube and we're hanging on to, like, a clothes hanger. and we're kind of, like, drifting through this water. and this black shadow figure kind of like pops up and it's like the ride knows what's going on. it's like making us go faster through the water and stuff. then we end up, we're at home and, like, the feeling like i'm anxious and scared, like, it goes away. well, all of a sudden it comes back and the thing pops up in the house and it kills my little sister and my mom, but me and my dad, like, we just run off. and we see it happen, but it doesn't come after us. - wow! so some dream images are so disturbing. so the hanger is on what? - it's like on a pipe. - okay okay. so-- interesting. so water in the language of dreams, we can associate with the unconscious mind. with things that are-- we just see the surface of. we don't know what's below the surface. so something's coming out of your unconscious or subconscious mind

in this dream to remind you of something. was there anything that divided your family, mother and sister in one direction, you and father in another direction? - um, yes. my mom, she left whenever i was six years old. - and did she take your sister with you? - my older sister. - okay. - wow. - so that's what the dream is referring to and you're still struggling with that. the big ugly monster destroyed your life as you knew it at that time. so there's still some healing that needs to take place. you're sure that's-- you're aware of that. - yes. - so what the dream is saying, though, is that now you're in a position, you're mature enough, you have the ability to understand it and heal from it so it doesn't have to bubble out of the subconscious and you can be free to move on from it. - wow, amazing. thank you. - great job, thank you. - thank you. - all the best. where's patricia? patricia, stand up. okay, so you've had a dream in the last month that has you worried. - yeah. - what is it? - i had a dream about my brother. i was in this building and i was reaching to pick something up. and something told me to look straight. or look up. and i looked up and across-- there was these glass doors.

and i could see my brother. and he was standing there and he had this beautiful smile. and when i saw him i just kind of-- i collapsed. and then i got up and i went running to him and there was this lady that was next to him. and i was kind of wondering who she was, but she wouldn't really face me so that i could try to see if i can recognize her. but my brother, when i went running to him to grab him and to hold on to him, he was giving me some flowers. - oh. - but the br-- the air was-- was-- different, you know? the atmosphere was like-- strong, but light and it was such a beautiful feeling. like, i could breathe without breathing. i was like in a different place. - oooh. - what does that mean? - that's a beautiful feeling. oh my goodness. some people dream that they can breathe under water. which is a similar feeling that you're describing. is your brother passed over? okay. - yes, he's passed. - so, um, but it's glass. the doors are glass and you can see him.

so he's just showing-- telling you that he's not separate from you. sadly he is in the physical. but he's aware of your life. he's connected. you can communicate with him. you can have conversations with him that he'll hear. white flowers are very often associated symbolically with death. not your death, his death. he's giving you this gift that he's okay on the other side. i'm not sure who the other lady is that we didn't get to see. she could represent the feminine aspect of him who is wanting to nurture you and let you know that everything's okay. but it's nothing to worry about whatsoever. it's actually a very beautiful gift from him. - okay, amazing amazing. thank you so much. up next he has changed millions of lives with his messages from the other side. spiritual medium james van praagh is here. and we will talk to him right after this break. and later... - and i want to tell you that there's also a betty somewhere. a betty in the family. who's that?

- yes, that's my aunt. - okay. - and she's still alive? is she here? - yes, she is. - because i have her mother here and she wants to give love to my betty. - oh my gosh, that's my grandmother. igarnier invents olia. a haircolor breakthrough. our first ammonia-free permanent color, powered by oil. olia propels color deep. pure, luminous, vivid color. visibly improves and restores hair. olia by garnier. there's no subtext... just tacos. yeah, it's our job to make you want it. but honestly... it's not that hard. old el paso. when you gotta have mexican.

- when james van praagh shares his psychic gifts he never disappoints. he has delivered amazing messages from the other side right here in our studio. take a look. - your aunt, she always wanted you to be a lady, always take care of yourself. that was her vibe for you. she said "i always tried to make her the best person i could. and i really wanted to put some money aside for her to go to school also. - wow. yeah. - you know about that, don't you? - did she? - yes or no? - yes! - thank you very much, 'cause she wants to be-- she wants to be acknowledged for that. - you're going to be very successful. you're very good at working with people. you could also be good in psychology or-- is that-- - i have a bachelor's degree in psychology. - what what? - there's something inside you that needs to be expressed and it hasn't been yet. it's almost like, "i don't believe in myself enough. and i really need to. and i know i'm looking for my family to believe in me." - i know you are. - ooh oooh. - oooh. - wow. - she's telling me there's two ceremonies that were done. two memorial services, okay? - yes. - do you have his ipod or ipad? do you have it? - yes yes. - and didn't you go through that and think of songs i wanna have at his service?

- yes. - thank you, 'cause that's what he's telling me. - she's shaking like a leaf. - yeah, i am too. - ( laughter ) - we've had lots of weird things happening during this hour. - really weird. - we had music that came out of nowhere. and jerry our stage manager said it was not our warm-up guy's music. it was not from audio. this music played and then this woman tells me during the break that the song that played happened to be your deceased husband's song? - yes. it used to be a little-- like "get fun" song that me and the family used to do. and it was only something that he would always flip it on and do this little dance. - wow. - and the same dance that james did. - i was up there dancing. - you did the same dance. - i gotta tell you there's definitely some influence from him. - oh. - and you know he's your angel, right? - ( sobs ) yes. - i know you have angel pictures in your house and the angel statue you have right there. - yes! - you understand that? - right next to my bed! - okay. it's him, it's him. he's your angel. - i love him. please welcome the "new york times" best-selling author of "ghosts among us" and world-renown spiritual medium

james van praagh. jamie! - hi-iii! - hi. - i'm so happy you're here. - thank you. - i have questions for you, but i really want you to just do readings. - i mean, i-- and that woman is here in the audience. - that's okay. - that was incredible the last time you were here. - hi! - okay, can you just, like, do your magic? please please please. - sure. can i stand up? - yeah yeah yeah. - okay, first i have a man here who's a father figure that comes to me and i feel like i'm over here. but this man is showing me cards and i feel like i'm either a poker player or i like to play cards. and i'm definitely feeling-- i think i'm in area here. and it's a father figure. i have a feeling walter would make sense with a "w" in the name. would you understand? your dad? may i come to you? is that okay? - yes, that's fine. - okay, honey. what is your name? - amanda. - amanda. okay, amanda. so i know this grandfather-- if i come to you is that on the father's side of the family? - yes, my dad's. - okay, very much so. and i want to go to a different part of the country, so i'm going to go across country or a different part of the country. okay, so i don't know if he's from the midwest originally, but i want to go to a different state. would that make sense to you, please?

- uh, he was in texas. - texas, that's a different state. that's all right. 'cause it's from here. i also gotta tell you he keeps on showing me these cards. cards cards cards. and i-- like reading card-- i mean like playing cards. playing cards sort of a thing. - like i went to his house for the summer and we used to play cards. but not really like a major thing. - play cards all the time. and your father's still alive. is it your dad's-- - yes. - and i want to ask about health issues with him. because there's recently been some health issues-- - yes. you understand that, correct? - yes. your father's been to two doctors, he's telling me. there's been two doctors. are you aware of that? - um, yeah, he actually just found out that he had some prostate problems. - yes, so i know there'll be two doctors. so i know there's been one general practitioner maybe and then a specialist. but i've got to tell you that he's doing the best he can. your father's-- his father's trying to help him, okay? i'm also going to tell you that one of them does something with wood. carpentry or making something by hand. - it's steve. his son actually carves. yes. - is a carpenter? - great. and i know that 'cause this man's telling me that. that there is definitely something that someone owns that he carved. - yeah, he carves amazing things, like with his hands.

- and i love the eagle. - yes, he does a lot of that. he does a lot of indian and native american eagles and wolves and things. - there's definitely an eagle there. 'cause i'm seeing the eagle. i'm seeing the bird wings now. and the whole like that-- like this-- ( growls ) - he does a lot of that, yes. - and i want to tell you that there's also a betty somewhere. there's a betty in the family. who is that? - yes, that's my aunt. - and she's still alive. is she here? - yeah. - because i have her mother here and she wants to give love to my betty. - oh my gosh, that's my grandmother. - okay, so she wants to give love to her betty, her betty. so to prove to you, indeed, that life goes on, that there is no death... - wow. - ...that betty needs to hear this. so will you please pass this on to betty? - i will, i will. - because betty-- and talk about very interesting. talk about dreams-- oh, i'm gonna cry. 'cause i'm feeling emotion. so i know that betty had a dream of her mother within the past two to three days. and would you let her know that that dream was real, that she was with her, that-- i call them the crossovers. that's right with them. and she is lovely. she loves violets and she loves little flowers, little plants-- violets. and crocus. she's telling me crocus. so please pass that on, would you please? - okay, i will.

- and i'm going to leave you with that. - thank you. - wow! amazing. oh my goodness. amazing amazing. more with james van praagh right after this. jamie, jamie, jamie. it's good to have you back. - i feel like definitely this person did not get the love in their life that they really needed when they were younger. i feel like in the formative years, when they were a young child, they didn't get fully the amount of love that they really wanted and desired. does that make sense, please? the intense ache made it hard to do the things that i wanted. my doctor diagnosed it as fibromyalgia -- thought to be the result of over-active nerves that cause chronic, widespreadain. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i learned lyrica can provide signicant relief

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yeah, she did. were cheerios the same back then? cheerios has pretty much been the same forever. so...when we have cheerios, it's kind of like we are having breakfast with nana... yeah... ♪ yeah. you're so smart. - we are back with one of my favorite people, spiritual medium james van praagh. okay, what is the ribbon exercise? - well, this just really works on the law of attraction, which means that i read whatever the energy that comes on these ribbons. so there's another way of just tuning in on a psychic level, intuitive level. so what i would like you to do, ricki, is to give this to-- you pick out somebody in the audience and they have to have three colored ribbons. whatever ribbons you want,

pick them and i'm going to turn my back and then you're going to hand me those ribbons and i'm going to read, based upon the ribbons, what i pick up and you're gonna say-- i'll say yes or no, does this make sense? the person will shake their head yes or no. and ricki will say yes or no. - and i'll say... okay. - and i'll go based on that, okay? - okay. - so pick out somebody you'd like to help. - okay okay. - all right. - and i don't want to see it. i'll just be up here amusing myself. - ( whispers ) oh my god, oh my god. oh my god, right here. - so when you hold that ribbon, make sure you hold it really strong with your energy. and put your energy in there. - all right, you know what? i'm taking these off. - ♪ la dah dah dah. any time. i've eyes in the back of my head. no, i don't, okay. okay, i'll take it. first of all, first impression i get is this a woman? - i'm gonna start taking my clothes off now. - is this a female that is holding these? - yes... oh yes. - okay, so i don't want to hear their voice.

i feel a female energy with these ribbons. i feel very much female. i feel very very much someone either going back to school, in the middle of school or want to take classes in something. i feel like education is very important to this person. does that make sense? - yes. - okay, and i feel that's a very very strong part of this personality, that it integrates very very strongly. i feel like definitely this person did not get the love in their life that they really needed when they were younger. i feel like in the formative years, when they were a young child, they didn't get fully the amount of love that they really wanted and desired. does that make sense, please? - yes. - okay, and i feel that this person, this girl, this woman has definitely brought this up in her life now. and it's definitely a situation. it's definitely a lesson that she's learning, she's going to learn from. a soul lesson for sure. i feel there's definitely a strong connection with her and her mother which is very very strong. i don't feel in some ways her mother was there for her in the formative years. that might be the one i'm picking up on. would that make sense? - yes. - okay, and i want you to forgive your mother because your mother can only do as-- i'm going to cry now, so i know i was right. --that your mother can only do as good as she could with what she knew. i feel like this lady's mother,

um, is-- she was separated from the family in some way when she was a young person. okay? and does that make sense, please? - yes. - i know it does because i feel it so strong and i feel it in this lady's heart. and i feel that she wants to make her mother very very proud. now is the mother passed over to the spirit world or is the mother still living? i'm not sure. - still living. - okay, but i know that there's a separation - between the two of them in some way now. - yes. - and i want to give her flowers and i want to talk about the month of august for some reason. and i'm just acknowledging that. and i want to say you need to give her some flowers. would that make sense at all? - yes. - okay. and i know that there might have been a hospital stay recently or her talking about being in a hospital or going through an illness of some kind. - no. - okay, i want to tell you that i feel that very very strong. okay? i'm going to tell you there's a man next to you as well in the spirit world. and i feel like it's a grandfather person coming in very very strong on your right side. did you know your mother's father? - no. - but i've got to tell you he i also tell you that this man as he comes in with me--

now i'm going to show you that this is definitely based upon the intelligence of the spirit world that i get the information from, and not from the person's ribbons, but from the person's man coming here, he's a very kind soul. he wears glasses when i see him back. he puts his hair straight back. and this man feels he wants to be everything to everyone. he's very apologetic for his daughter, that he tried to do the best he could. i see very very much this man with cornfields around him so i know it's probably somewhere in the midwest or in the country. would that make at all sense? to you? - nn-no. - would he have grown up in the country then? - no - no, he wouldn't have. okay. i don't know why i'm going to the country, but i am going to the country so i've gotta go with that. now let me go back and turn around and see where i am. i'm here, very good. okay, good. and is your dad passed over, by the way? your dad still alive here? - he's still alive. - would you know your-- you didn't know your grandfather? - i did not. my dad didn't even-- - okay, he knows you very very well. and i know that he's apologizing for your mother. i'm sorry. and i feel there's a constant give and take with you and your mom. does that make sense to you? - yes. - yes or no? - yes. - and i feel like i'm always trying to get in my mother's good graces.

or i'm really trying to make her proud. and i just can't necessarily do that because my mother's the certain way she is. - yes. - okay okay. um, that's it. - that's amazing. amazing amazing amazing. james, amazing. coming up next maureen hancock and james van praagh join forces to share messages from beyond. don't go away. - and now did you not know your mother-in-law? - no, i've never met her. - okay, because she said to tell you even though you never met me, i know you. so she brought you together with your soulmate because you almost didn't go out with him. - ( gasps ) has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy.

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- welcome back. we are with spiritual mediums james van praagh and maureen hancock, two of my very favorite people. all right, so can you possibly do readings together?

- sure. we've never tried it before so we're going to attempt it. which i think is always great to start something new. maureen, you're gonna start first? - definitely. - let's do it. - let's do it! let's go. let's go. okay. - i'll let her start. - so i just kinda flip the switch and then see what happens. i'm going to head back here, actually. so i have a little bit of a double connection going on. - you go on, baby, i'm with you. - all right, i'll go. so, um, i have mom coming through back here. did someone have mom pass right here? or mother-in-law? it's the same thing. - i had a mother-in-law. - mother-in-law. so let me have you come down here for a minute. and i feel like this is a double, because i also have-- or she's telling me there's a mother in the back i need to connect with. and now did you not know your mother-in-law? - no, i've never met her. - okay, because she said to tell you "even though you never met me, i know you."

so she brought you together with your soulmate because you almost didn't go out with him. - do you understand? - yeah. - um, but it's-- she needs you to-- she's asking you to be the messenger. she keeps saying "my boys, my boys, my boys." so just her family needs to know that she hasn't missed out on their life, um, because it feels like it's been a long time. and, um, remember the name thomas? because that's coming up and i felt like you wouldn't know it, but you need to check with the family. - i'll have to check with-- yeah. - absolutely. - so, um, and... i keep seeing a baby. did somebody recently have a child? - uh, my last one's a year old. - a year old? that's still a baby, right? he's not like "ma, make me a sandwich!" - no. - right? so... go ahead. - do you want me to jump in? - yeah. - so i'm going to go off what maureen has already established and i'm going to go with you. i want to say that i pick up as well with this lady-- i'm working the link that maureen established.

with the lady that comes in here-- there's a lady and also a man that's come in here. so she'd be associated with a man that's passed over in spirit as well. i think this might have been a brother that she had not seen for a very very long time. and she met this man. and even during her funeral, people said "i wonder if she's seeing him" or he's come to get her. okay? you understand that, correct? thank you. i know there's been a hospital stay somewhere. i know there was a sickness at one point as well. and i feel like i'm not myself. i just feel like i'm wasted from the inside out. if i can express it that way. i know that this lady-- when i connect with this lady i feel like my-- i feel like i wish i had finished more than i did. i wish i accomplished more than i did. and i didn't accomplish enough or i feel like i didn't accomplish enough. now i'm going to agree with maureen completely what she says about a baby, because i feel there could have been a new baby born right after she passed over or there's a grandchild right after she passes, right around the time of her passing. - she passed away... - a long time ago? - yeah. it's when my husband was like... - about 10 years ago? - ...six. - oh, okay, well, why is there a baby born after-- well, obviously the baby born after she dies, but i'm going to go with maureen in saying there's a baby coming in or there's a baby right now. because it feels very much like this. i want to tell you this lady does pass early on in her life.

- yeah. - i feel like i have a lot more to accomplish and she wants me to tell you that. i've got to tell you that. and please do pass the message on to your husband and see if there's a man by the name of jeffrey or jeff that he would know of. i'm not sure if he's working with him, but she's mentioning that name. are you aware of that name? - uh, no. - so jeff or jeffrey, please. and there's a man at work with this name she's telling me. and also there's someone named-- go on. i don't know who scott-- someone named scott. she's talking about scott. un, shaun's dad's middle name is scott. - mm, not the best-- - and he's still here? - yeah. - okay. - did he remarry? - no. - no, okay. - aww. - and who's the "c" or a "k" name? here living? - a "c"... - what's your name? - crystal. - thank you. - crystal? is that a "c"? - thank you. - great. we're gonna take a quick break. we're gonna do that right after we come back. more with james and maureen right after this.

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a validation, we're on. - come over here. - we're in. we're in. - we're in. - you had to say about that, the drawing you had of him. - yeah, and when i was connecting with your brother, i also had mom coming through as well. - yes, oh yes. - and she's just really super powerful. - yes. - like you could feel that, right? oof. - oh, right here, right here. - i just felt it. - and just, you know, taking care of everyone, like, "move this and get that over there and i don't like how that's hung." - oh, she's telling god what to do. - oh, she's-- - yeah. oh, she's redecorating-- she was an interior designer. - redecorating heaven. "i don't like that. and move this and get that over there." - she would move things-- go to hotels and she'd tell my father, "we can't stay in this hotel or we'll stay in this hotel, but you've gotta move all this stuff around. i don't like it. put it over there." - oh wow wow. - can i just jump in? but your brother, i want to thank you from him. i know there was some problems ahead of time with the family. you understand that? - yes yes. - and he wants to say he's very sorry for being so stubborn and so-- you know, he was really thick in some ways. - yes. - and please forgive him for that, because he died with unresolved issues. you understand that? - and my mother didn't know about it. - yes,

and i understand the family had some unresolved issues. and he's very very sorry. and he's using this opportunity right now to apologize to you and other members of the family about that. your mother and him are making up. your mother and him are getting together. it's taking a little while because she's a little strong. - oh yes. - and he's a little strong. - yes. so i gotta tell you-- and someone comes in with either a cane, that had a cane? - ( laughs ) me. - okay, because they're showing me a cane. - or maybe some idiot. - was there a man with a cane? like a grandfather or father who had a cane? - yes, my grandfather had a cane. - because i feel a man over here who comes in. and you know him with a cane, he said. - yes. - and he loved his cane. he had a whole collection of canes. - yes, he did. - now who-- i keep seeing a scene of somebody either throwing away the false teeth or they wrapped it up and tossed it? - my grandmother might have. i don't know. - but they're definitely laughing about it. it does feel like it was somebody that was joking around with their teeth. and-- ( gibberish ) - yeah, like the last time that i saw my grandmother in new york i didn't know that she wore false teeth and when she-- when i noticed it, she started giggling and she said these are-- you know...

- ( gasps ) oh wow, right. - ...false teeth! - so they're all together. - and your dad's passed over as well please? because i get the man right next to you on the left side of you and they come on the left side. and this man has a furrow. he has a furrow on his head. - oh, always. oh my god. - and there are photographs of him and he looks angry. - always, yes. he was always angry. - he's always saying ( growls ) and that's what he's giving me the impression of. so you know it's him. - yes. - and i'm gonna tell you, i don't feel like he's like that anymore, but that's how you would know of him. - yes, always. - and he's telling me he had plumbing problems. now that's very interesting. - wait, in what way? - plumbing problems organically in his body. there was some plumbing problems he's telling me. some prostate problems or something that he had. - maybe. - he saying he had plumbing problems. but you're an angel to him and i gotta tell you that. again, you don't think you got the love from them, but they're finding out now how much you love them. - thank you. - because they weren't able to express it down here. - awww. - it's interesting. when i moved your kerchief here, there's a heart on your necklace. and right when james was talking about expressing love to you, i heard your mother like, "move the heart."

and to tell you "i love you" because she never said that. - oh boy. thank you so much. yes. - she needs to say that. give me a hug. - hugs from heaven! - hugs from heaven! - ( cheers ) - oh my goodness. - thank you. - yay, thank you, thank you. thank you for being so open. i want to thank all of our audience for being so open to messages from the spirit world. special thanks to maureen hancock cynthia richmond and james van praagh for sharing their gifts with us today. and thank you at home for watching. hope to see you next time. bye-bye.

>> and now enter into the courtroom of judge mathis. the plaintiff said shy -- she first met the defendant when she was 16 years old and dating her 30 year old brother. after her son bought a car from the defendant, the defendant stole it back and sold it to someone else so she's suing.

the defendant sarah strict land said the plaintiff has nirving to bad mouth her when her house was raided and family members were arrested for possession of cocaine and guns. sarah said she took the car back because the plaintiff's son failed to pay it off. she is suing for slander and impound fees. >> judge mathis: start with you. mr. #1: i met the defendant years ago when she was death my brother when she was 16 and he was 30. >> judge mathis: shy was how old? >> plaintiff: she was scain. my brother was 30. >> judge mathis: is he in jail? >> plaintiff: no, no. >> judge mathis: he t should be. that is statutory rape. >> plaintiff: it is it. >> judge mathis: you have a terrible brother. >> plaintiff: i took her out of my mothers and let her stay with my daughter as long as she went too school . until one of her family members

came and banged on the door drunk and stated she was a run away everything that she stated to me her parents kicked her out and stole money was untrue . i told her to leave and g. she left my home and i hadn't seen her up until last year. >> judge mathis: when did she leave? >> plaintiff: 02. >> judge mathis: next time you saw her 2012? >> plaintiff: no. 2011 when she visited my daughter. >> judge mathis: what occurred? >> plaintiff: she came over with a battle of ega and coke and talked about her life. >> judge mathis: let he hear from you the background. >> defendant:ip -- i moved to on florida in 05. i find it funny she said negative things about me. she is no saint herself.

i remember in 04, when i moved because in 05 her house raided for drugs and a couple members of her family were arrested for cocaine and guns. >> judge mathis: is that true? >> plaintiff: yes, that is it true. >> judge mathis: i know there is it a story behind it. i want to know. i am sure there is it a story behind the accusations. they were not quite that bad. her house was raid coke and guns and everything. >> defendant: drugs and that was thumbs up and we had a relationship after that. and now this incident occurred with the car. >> judge mathis: okay, talk about when and how you showed back up. >> defendant: like shy said- she said, i visiting her daughter and close friends with her son daniel. i had a car to sell. >> judge mathis: that's the car in question, i assume. why are you suing her?

>> plaintiff: my ston bought the car from sarah on august 6th of this year for $3000. i have a bill of sale . on that day he brought the vehicle home and i gave him half of the money for it >> judge mathis: you gave it to him? >> plaintiff: to my ston. we share the car. >> judge mathis: at some point you have to have a direct connection with you and the defendant? >> plaintiff: yes, there is it going to be one. we agreed to purchase the car. >> judge mathis: your ston purchased the car from her. >> plaintiff: on that same day a coupil of hours after purchasing the car. a man pulled up in front of the car and stated it was his car. my son chased him out. he went back to his car and went around the corner and came back and we were outside . he said sarah sold him the car a

month ago and that was his car. i said my ston just bought it this morning and he has the bill of sale and title. he said he had a title also. then i told him he couldn't take the car and he called the police. >> bailiff: she should have pulled out them guns. >> judge mathis: let me stop you. i don't see nothing between you and her. you would have had to purchased the car for her to be liable to you. >> plaintiff: i center a title with my name on it >> judge mathis: now you are involved now. >> defendant: i didn't give her a title. >> judge mathis: you have that title. >> plaintiff: yes, i do. i have the first title she signed with my son and second on the 22nd. i asked for a clean title to put

it in my name. >> judge mathis: so the man had purchased it from her earlier. >> plaintiff: i have a police report on that day. >> judge mathis: let me have that, please. >> plaintiff: the police came 30 minutes after we called them. the man stated that he did buy the car from sarah. it is bogus how she sold it out from under him. high had taken sarah earlier to report it stolen. police called and she never reported it stolen. >> judge mathis: where is the car now? >> plaintiff: she resold it after she took it out of the to you lot. >> judge mathis: ma'am? >> defendant:ipmented $3cent 00 for the car. we were doing a payment plan and he gave me $300 down. he did not make want payments, i

gave him $300 back and me and her son took it back. she didn't give money. he gave me $600. he in the process of buying it from me and it was my vehicle. >> judge mathis: why don't you read me that portion, where he tells the police he was paying for the car. >> defendant: high - he stated that strick land gave her mission to borrow the car. he inform would my, that he and his mom borrowed the vehicle on and off for a few monthings now. he was in the process of purchasing the vehicle from strickland and he was making paymentings. but the car was registered in strickland's name. >> judge mathis: put a parenthis by the part of still making payments.

this is her son who she claimed to give $3000 for the car. isn't that you said. ma'am. isn't that what you said. >> announcer: more judge mathis when we return. >> we were together and became frinds and then a couple in 2001 . we were considered -- wives. we got together. >> judge mathis: what state do you live? ? >> defendant: i object. >> announcer: still to come. >> judge mathis: where is the son and why isn't he here. >> defendant: he rasted. >> judge mathis: he's in jail. >> plaintiff: he's? jail. >> judge mathis: makes sense. go ahead. i believe in tough love with emp-- emphasis on the love. what do you think i am naive to the game? i don't know how big you are in your house, but you are very

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>> i met her when she dated my younger brother and he was 30 and she was 16. she was staying at my mother's house. >> judge mathis: she was how old? >> plaintiff:ee 16. my brother was >> judge mathis: is he in jail? >> plaintiff: notice. >> judge mathis: he should be. that is statutory rape. >> judge mathis: he should be. >> announcer: they met when she was a teen. she purchased a car from her and discovered that the vehicle was sold two other people. >> judge mathis: this is it her son whom she claimed to have given 3000 for the car. isn't that what you said. ma'am. >> plaintiff: i gave him half for the vehicle. i gave him $1500 for the vehicle.

>> judge mathis: he told the police he was still paying hir. >> plaintiff: i have a letter from my son, also. >> judge mathis: i rather go with the police. >> plaintiff: go ahead. thank you. foo >> judge mathis: now i think you are lying. golt a statement from your son. your counter claim $2000 for slander and impound fees. >> defendant: yes, i receive would a ticket on the car 8 8 of 2012. >> judge mathis: where is the son. >> defendant: he was arrested. >> judge mathis: he's in jail. >> defendant: he's in jail. >> judge mathis: makes sense. go ahead. >> defendant: he. >> judge mathis: what about the counter claim and slander. how did she slander you. >> defendant: the business that does all of my work on my vehicle, she told them i a drug

addict. >> judge mathis: you have evidence of that? >> defendant: yes. >> judge mathis: did you do that? >> plaintiff: no. >> defendant: he no longer. >> judge mathis: what evidence do you have? >> defendant: he wrote a statement. he workings on the vehicle. >> plaintiff: her vehicle. >> judge mathis: ma'am, don't believe anything you say. i caught you in a lie. i will grant her judgment and dismiss yours. your son is in jail and he told the police either he lied to you or to the police. i can't rely on anything he said. thank goodness he is in jail. your claim is dismissed and yours is it granted. >> plaintiff: she is a liar. i have text messages that state that is ours. she sold it third time in two monthings. >> defendant: before i made any

legal transactions. everything legal and if they pay and transfer it in their name. >> plaintiff: you should as well gone with me. >> defendant: and the officers are lying, too. enk e everyone is lying but you. mr. #1: i have your text message. >> defendant: it is done and over w. thank you lord. >> plaintiff: it is done and over with. >> announcer: the plaintiff met the defendant in narcotics anonymous where dare lin - carolyn treated for alcoholism. she dated the defendant and they lived together for 11 years . they eventually broke up. she is suing for property and defamation. the defendant margaret bird said she broke up with carolyn years ago after carolyn relapse

margaret insisted on storage fees. >> judge mathis: ma'am, you are suing for $3300 for property . yours is $3300 for storage feings. put your arms down. you are not about to fight in here. go ahead. give me background on the case in termsful your friendship. >> plaintiff: i met her in a narcotics anonymous meeting in 2000. i am a recovering alcoholic and she is a recovering crack addict. we grotgot together and became friends and i we were a

considered wifeless. >> judge mathis: what state do you live in? >> defendant: i object. [ applause ] >> judge mathis: they are trying to deny you. that's why they can get a license. >> judge mathis: go ahead, ma'am. you became what we consider. >> plaintiff: the first years was our relationship . then she just became verbally abusive. >> judge mathis: how so and why? >> plaintiff: she was very physical to me and verbally abusive to me. >> judge mathis: why do you think that is it started. >> plaintiff: like any other couple. we have ups and downs. >> judge mathis: she was just violent. >> plaintiff: she was violent

with hers. the police were called several times and i continued to stay with this woman because i really loved her. i thought that maybe shy would change. at the time things got a little bit worse and i relapsed and i started drinking alcohol again. >> judge mathis: when was that? >> plaintiff: 2004. >> judge mathis: what have things been like that since then? >> plaintiff: we resumed a relationship. >> judge mathis: when? >> plaintiff: this continued. >> defendant: are you serious? >> plaintiff: after i moved to vig -- las vegas. we got together as a wife and couple and it was decided. i would go to the rehab. it is a rehab.

and it is it a medical technician. the job folded. we would talk on the phone every day like we were a married couple. >> judge mathis: when did you break up. >> plaintiff: we broke up in last year? >> defendant: are you serious? >> plaintiff: we just, we just couldn't get along. >> coming up next on judge mathis. >> plaintiff: i don't know where she gets the relationship thing. >> judge mathis: is it that true. >> plaintiff: we lived together for 11 years. >> judge mathis: somebody is telling a lie. >> announcer: and later.

>> hehas a crack addiction. >> may i interrupt. >> judge mathis: he said your

do you have a pending lawsuit that you want judge mathis to

decide. counter suing for 3300 for storage feags. >> defendant: yes. >> judge mathis: put your arms down. you are not about to fight in here. >> plaintiff: the plaintiff dated the defendant and they lived together for 11 years. the defendant said they were broken up for years and never lived together. >> judge mathis: let me hear fru, ma'am. give me background on the case. she said that you all met in 2000 and became a couple in 01 and subsequently you are married if you will . you used her to relapse in ofour. >> defendant: this is it a story. i met her and she had twev years clane and i had one.

and i told her i didn't want to get in an reason. and she i niver have lived with that woman. >> judge mathis: is that true. mr. #1: we lived together for 11 years in different address says. >> judge mathis: somebody is telling a big right. >> defendant: you have to are serious? >> plaintiff: we moved in together >> defendant:ip paid rent on the bottom floor and she had her own and moved to 126 on the top . she paid her own rent. >> plaintiff: we were together as a couple. >> judge mathis: did you live together in the stame househald. >> defendant: no. >> plaintiff: yes. >> defendant: are if you serious? >> judge mathis: go ahead. we had on get to the property you are suing about.

>> defendant: 2004 she relapsed and i am lives downstairs and she lived upstairs. i am a recovery addict. i can't be in a relationship with anybody else using else i will use . the relationship whatever she wanted to call it over in 2004 period. i help people. ip take people to meetings and sponsor people . so when she calls me. i help people i don't know . so why not help her. that's all it about. i was not intimate with her. >> judge mathis: do you mean. >> defendant: you had your turn, right. >> judge mathis: let her finish. >> defendant: let me finish, okay. in 2008. she left and went down to las

vegas . at this time she was actively using . she left hers. >> judge mathis: when was that? >> defendant: 2006. >> judge mathis: this is the lawsuit of her items. tell me what is happening. >> plaintiff: she refuse tod give me items and i have receipts. >> judge mathis: first tell me the circumstancings . how did your items get to your home and what the agreement and when did you they were missing or she tell you you couldn't get them. >> plaintiff: i moved my stuff in her place. moved from las vegas to pittsburgh and i brought my belongings and now she will not give them back. >> defendant: canip say something. >> judge mathis: when dumove back in with her. >> plaintiff: i moved back in

2008. >> judge mathis: 2008 . the agreement was what? that it was furniture and you were what? >> plaintiff: that we are still a couple. >> defendant: not true. >> judge mathis: when did you move out? >> plaintiff: in 2009. >> judge mathis: what caused you to move out? >> plaintiff: we got into an argument and i went over to my sister-in-law's house and stayed a couple of days and she call would up my sister-in-law and said i a thief. >> judge mathis: when did you go to attempt to get your property back? first time you attempted after leaving in 0009. >> plaintiff: she said since i didn't have any place to live, i could keep my bilongings -- belongings until i get my own place. >> judge mathis: what happened since then? >> plaintiff: i was in a program

and we were still a coupil and she continued to let me keep my property there. >> judge mathis: when did you end the relationship? >> plaintiff: in december 26, 2011. >> defendant: be serious. [ applause ] >> judge mathis: and you all weren't living together at that point? >> plaintiff: no. >> judge mathis: where have you lived since 09. >> plaintiff: i have been stay nothing a shelter. it a program. >> judge mathis: for two years. >> plaintiff: this is it the papers. >> judge mathis: so your relationship ended in 2011. >> plaintiff: i don't think it is it funny. thank you. i don't think it is funny. >> announcer: stay tuned, the case continues after this. >> judge mathis: that's whoo people do help their friends and exmates. she was with you 2011.

she's here today. don't say you are not. you know you have been with this

>> plaintiff: why was. >> defendant: we did not live in the same household. >> judge mathis: dulive in the same household. >> plaintiff: yes. >> defendant: no. >> announcer: the plaintiff said she dated the defendant and they lived together for 11 years. but the defendant insists they

were broken up for years. >> judge mathis: your relationship ended in 2011. when you left you continued to store your things. when it the time. >> judge mathis: when was the first time. >> plaintiff:ip asked to come and get my things since we are broken up. >> judge mathis: when >> plaintiff: she cussed me out and told me to take her to court. >> judge mathis: ma'am, behaabout the property? >> defendant: first of all in 2008. he went to rehab because two months, and she was on the car. and whole nine yards.

>> judge mathis: what percentage relapse. you act like she's the devil. >> defendant: she is not. >> judge mathis: and what percentage of recovering addicts in the time frame. >> defendant: what? >> judge mathis: 80 percent . she is no different 8 out of 10. don't come down so hard. i recently learned that. i am stopping coming down so hard on people who come out of and relapse. so tell me, she went into rehab again. go ahead. >> defendant: she came out in 09, she moved her things, okay, the things that she came with from las vegas, i gave her. she came with her truck. she said that i cannot take the

washer and dryer and all of this stuff because it woint fit. bam, she moved the stuff. me and this laid is not in any type of relationship. i enemy relationship with this lady here. >> judge mathis: very good. congratulations. >> defendant: for the last thry or two years. >> judge mathis: i am prowled of you get to the property. she left her things, are they still there? >> defendant: they are still there. and i told her she needed a storage fee. she left them there for the last four yearings. >> judge mathis: what did you all agree on. >> defendant: she was not paying me nothing and i could cipe it >> judge mathis: that's not true. your honor,. >> judge mathis: what year. >> defendant: around christmas time she called on the phone and told me to come to her apartment. she found out about tracey and she called me back two months later and she found out i was

serious, serious, serious, not getting back into this thing ever again since 2004, she said give my my stuff. >> judge mathis: okay. >> defendant: i told her you owe me storage fees. she said i will take you to court. i said let's go to court then. >> judge mathis: ma'am, you are with holding her things until she pays storage frees but you never had an. >> defendant: since she said i defame would her and i never talked about no recovering addict. i helps pime taking them to meeting and i took her and stipulated her the whole time. >> judge mathis: what defamation was it? >> plaintiff: she told my family members that i was a thief. >> judge mathis: when did she tell them that? >> defendant: there things

missing. my colt of $ much you. >> judge mathis: did you tell her family she was a thief? >> defendant: i never talked to her family. mr. #1: i have an affidavit. >> judge mathis: when did you allege. >> defendant: i never talked. mr. #1: she talked to my sister and sister-in-law and told me. >> defendant: there things missing. >> judge mathis: ma'am, in 0009-- 009she calmed and accused her of being a thief. this was in 09. i will not grant you a judgment. you have been on alcohol many, many years. if is it likely that you might have stolen something in your experience for a lack much a better term >> announcer: the verdict when we return. mr. #1: watch her. q. i feel bad fur. >> defendant: you ain't got to

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she dated the defendant they lived together . they never never lived together. it is $1207 and you admit. >> judge mathis: you will not pay her a storage fee. you will not get anything unless you have agreement. >> defendant: for eight years before she went to vegas. >> judge mathis: you don't have a storage fee agreement. people do that. they help friends and exmates and she was with you . do i want say you are not. shy-- she is here today. you know you have been with this woman. you know you have been with this woman. don't you believe it.

i grant you 1207 for the property. you can keep it. >> plaintiff: you know what, watch her. i feel bad for you. >> defendant: she ain't on crack. why are you talk with her. i never have to be with you she lied the whole time about everything. >> announcer: the plaintiff met the defendant through his son. he claims the defendant is a crack addict who lost his business due to an addiction. he will drive around looking for the defendant at crack houses. the defendant patrick roberts

admits mighting jeffrey through his son. but denies being a crack addict. he refuses to refund money. he is counter suing for the balance due on the car. >> judge mathis: start with you. >> plaintiff: your honor, i met the defendant through his son. the man has a crack addiction. >> judge mathis: how do you know that? >> defendant: excuse me. >> plaintiff: his son told me. >> defendant: excuse me. may i interrupt, sir. >> judge mathis: he said your son told him. >> defendant: oh. okay. >> plaintiff: we would ride around and take hime to places where i know would be crack houses. >> judge mathis: his son would take you around looking for his dad. >> plaintiff: and when he lost his business doing crack >>

defendant: that is not true. >> judge mathis: i will let you give the background. go ahead. mr. #1: he lost the business and he was working at five stone or brickstone. i confronted him about the paymentings. >> judge mathis: payments on the car. let me hear from you. >> defendant: i met jeffrey through my son peter. he was expecting an inheritance to pay for the car in one lump sum. my son told him about the car . i talked to him on the phone and he said he could give $1500 down. when he came to the shop to see the car, he didn't have $1500. he had $700 and promised to have the balance of the down payment within a couple of days . however he came and gave my $300. >> judge mathis: we are up to

$1000. >> defendant: the money didn't come in and he wanted. >> judge mathis: $500. >> defendant: $1800 was the balance. $2800 was the balance. i would hold the car until he paid the balance. >> judge mathis: and this point $1800 was the balance. what happened with that? >> defendant: he was supposed to come back with more monep and after a month or so he calmed me and got the car and weekly payments . because he didn't honor the original agreement. it would not be in my best interest to let him take the vehicle and pay me in bits, because he hadn't come through with a deal we had. >> judge mathis: why didn't he. >> defendant: i tried to give

him another vehicle. he didn't want them. >> judge mathis: how would you give him another vehicle. >> defendant:ip could have given him a vehicle that covered with $,'ve -- $1000. >> judge mathis: when you found him in april why didn't you pay. >> plaintiff: he was not trying to take the money. he was talking about the history channel. >> judge mathis: you tried to [ male announcer ] this is the opposite of subliminal advertising... there's no subtext... just tacos. yeah, it's our job to make you want it. but honestly... it's not that hard. old el paso. when you gotta have mexican. [ female announcer ] today, flintstones means more than multivitamins. introducing flintstones healthy brain support gummies. an omega-3 dha supplement. specially designed to help support healthy brain function. that's the flintstones effect.

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>> announcer: the plaintiff met the defendant through his son and claimed that his son lost the business through a track addiction. >> judge mathis: sir, let me hear from you on this tar. >> defendant: i did own give him ape hand . he claim would that he couldn't find the title. >> judge mathis: you told him you could not find the title >> defendant: not correct. >> plaintiff: he told me he could not find the title. i had checks, too. he was telling me and giving me a lot of run around. >> judge mathis: at what point. he told you $2800. >> plaintiff: he told me $2500. >> judge mathis: and what the payment plan? >> plaintiff: that i was supposed, soon as i got $2000,

he would let me drive it off and pay out the balance. >> judge mathis: when that? >> plaintiff: he told me he didn't want to take cash. >> judge mathis: stick with the agreement. >> plaintiff:'ve $2500 and when you gave him $2000. you could drive away. >> plaintiff: i had the money. >> judge mathis: when was that to occur. they set dates. >> plaintiff: we didn't have a setidate. >> judge mathis: so it could six months or nine. >> plaintiff: it didn't take that long. >> judge mathis: if there is no deadline. this is going to be important because i am sure he's going to say he got rid of it because you never picked tup. i don't know what his defense will be. >> plaintiff: the car was stolen at the end of the day i found out froms had son. he knew it. >> judge mathis: he said you breached the agreement with him. if you breached your contract you lost your money is what he's

saying. >> plaintiff: kept trying to give him payments. after that he would not return my callings. >> judge mathis: when dustart giving him paymentings. mr. #1: my last payment was on on. >> judge mathis: i said start. mr. #1: march 4th. >> judge mathis: you gave him how much >> plaintiff: $700. >> judge mathis: and then the next time? >> plaintiff: it was on march 14th . hundred . 24th $200. >> judge mathis: and you said he tried and he wouldn't take the other money. >> plaintiff: probably a week after that? >> judge mathis: what did he say? >> plaintiff: he wouldn't answer my calls. he lost his business. >> judge mathis: you didn't know where to find him? >> plaintiff: at the time notice. >> judge mathis: where was he. >> plaintiff: he was at his business. >> judge mathis: he lost it the

same month. >> plaintiff: yes. >> judge mathis: you have to know. >> plaintiff: i had his son take me up there. it >> judge mathis: you findly caught up with him. >> plaintiff: i found out the car was stolen and caught up with him a month later. >> judge mathis: how did you find him? >> plaintiff: his son took me to him. >> judge mathis: dudiscuss. >> plaintiff: i tried to get my money back. >> judge mathis: why? >> plaintiff: he said the car was stolen. >> judge mathis: i want to hear about houp you kept trying to pay him and he didn't want your money. i know you are jumping to you. but before that happened. we have to determine if you kept your side of the agreement or not. let's go back over it you could not find him in the end of because he had closed your business.

your buttedy -- bud i couldn't find him. >> plaintiff: his son knew where he was. >> judge mathis: you told my you didn't know. if his son always knew where he. mr. #1: he gave me the run around. he's got his dad's back. >> judge mathis: he didn't when he ultimately took you. he no longer like would his dad one hershey's s'mores.

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him and couldn't find him and april you did. you are looking for him to pay? >> plaintiff: yes. >> judge mathis: why didn't you pay in april. >> plaintiff: he was not trying to take the money. he talked about the history channel. your honor,, he gave me the run around. >> judge mathis: you start to give him money and how did that conversation end. >> plaintiff: i wanted my money. >> judge mathis: you say i want my money. >> plaintiff: he was not trying to take my money and he wasn't. >> judge mathis: when you start talking about it. he started to talk about the history channel. mr. #1: yeah. >> judge mathis: why didn't you give him a rifund. >> defendant: first of all it is my son a friend. the honda was a desirable car and sell for more than 2800 than i asked.

i could have sold it to someone else and had him take another vehicle. >> judge mathis: he admits he had changed his mind and came to give his money back. you can't breach your contract and have a contract to pay on a car and until it is it paid off and one day say forget it i want my money back. that is not how car sales work. once you have an agreement to pay him on a payment the plan you can't change your mind. your counter claim for a balance due how does he owe you. >> defendant: had he come through with the original agreement the car would not have been stolen. >> judge mathis: where was it stolen. >> defendant: madison, wisconsin. >> judge mathis: under whose super. >> defendant: i was doing repairs on her vehicle. >> judge mathis: he had not paid enough to obtain ownership.

>> defendant: that's correct. >> judge mathis: $18 is the q. the -- >> defendant: for the balance. >> judge mathis: high breached the agreement. alm you do when they breach on a car sale, you keep the amount of money they have given you. not his fault it stolen. you take the loss on the theft and he takes loss on breaching the contract where high changed his mind on buying the car. when you did, you breached the agreement and you lost your deposit. the agreement he broke, you keep the prosteeds from -- proceeds from that. center a good day. >> defendant: that's not true and i don't know where he came up with the information.

>> plaintiff: you got away with a thousand of my money. i will never do that again. >> hi, judge mathis, it is karen from chicago. can a judge grant me a restraining order? >> i get asked this all of the time. for the answer go to askjudgemathis.com.

today on "america's court with judge ross." >> how long did it end up taking the animals, mr. pillar, to get from north carolina to new york? >> took actually two weeks, your honor. it was supposed to catake one week, but there were weather problems. that was the biggest issue. >> i'm thinking a week a long. the whole purpose behind law is to right wrong. i want justice to be something that isn't just a foreign conce concept. >> justice knows no boundaries. the truth will be heard. fair, firm, compassionate. this is "america's court with judge ross." sabrina carter is suing dennis

pillar in the amount of $1,000 for vet bills after what miss carter says were unsatisfactory pet transportation services. >> all rise. remain standing. come to order. this court is now in session. the honorable judge kevin ross presiding. >> ladies and gentlemen, you may be seated. >> your honor. >> miss carter, so these pets that you have, took a little while to get them when you were transporting them. now you want $1,000 because of the inconvenience. two go ahead. >> that is true. the defendant owes me $1,000, a refund and also veterinary bills. >> you made a decision to go to mr. pillar to transport your animals. >> i was going to north carolina from upstate new york. >> right. now, that's about a couple hours on a plane. why wouldn't you just put the pets on a plane. >> i couldn't. i couldn't put my babies on a

plane. >> why not? >> these animals are my kids. i care about them deeply. >> people put their kids on planes all the time. >> but not underneath the plane. that's unsafe for them. i don't believe in that. and so i wanted to find a better, more humane way to transport my animals. >> and what type of animals were they, dogs? >> i have one dog and i have two cats. >> what's the dog's name? >> my dog's name is lily. >> the cat's names? >> the cats' names are gus and bruno. >> gus and bruno. >> i have pictures of them. >> let's take a look. and mr. pillar, what type of service do you provide individuals? >> i transport animals, your honor. mostly to other -- over various states. mostly on the east coast. i've been doing it for ten years. >> all right. so i see this must be lily the dog with gus or bruno? >> that's gus. >> i love the picture.

look at them. now, lily -- >> aren't they just the cutest? >> lily looks young. is she a puppy? >> yes, lily is young. i've had it for about a year now. it was about six months at the time. >> okay. the second picture, which one is this one? >> that's bruno. >> that's bruno. >> obvious he he has a personality. >> big personality. all right. i get it. they had to ultimately end up going to the veterinarian. >> yes. >> after they were transported. how long did it end up taking the animals, mr. pillar, to get from north carolina to new york? >> it took actually two weeks, your honor. it was supposed to take one week, but there were weather problems. that was the biggest issue. >> okay, now, i'm thinking a week is long. why would a week -- why would it take a week? >> well, i did -- i stopped by other clients' places and puck pick up their pets and take them in this case up to new york also. >> i still don't understand why it would take a week, though. >> well, i