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what are jack smith's options here? >> well, there is a reason you've never seen anything like it. i don't think bradley and i have either. last week, bradley was trying to come up with the best yiddish phrase for this and i have sort of 2m words for you. michigan, which is what this is, because the choice that was given by judge cannon to the parties is to ask jack smith, so please draft a jury instructions seeming that the earth is flat and the second one is please draft a jury instruction assuming that the earth is square. so the second m word is mandamus. mandamus is the ability -- it is not an appeal. it is for extraordinary actions by a district court that so clearly violate the law that you can appeal it right then and there. it is a very tough standard, but at this point, what she did today is so nutty, and so against appointed bradley has been making, which is that the 11th circuit has actually already decided this issue and what she has proposed is against what the 11th circuit is already reversed her on, so i really think to the extent that you think that she is engaging
what are jack smith's options here? >> well, there is a reason you've never seen anything like it. i don't think bradley and i have either. last week, bradley was trying to come up with the best yiddish phrase for this and i have sort of 2m words for you. michigan, which is what this is, because the choice that was given by judge cannon to the parties is to ask jack smith, so please draft a jury instructions seeming that the earth is flat and the second one is please draft a jury...
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jack smith, i don't think is any better. leticia james is terrible. she campaigned on i will get trump, i will get trump and then it goes before a trump hating judge. the whole thing is a rigged deal.erstands it. i'm lucky i'm able to explain it to the public because if you weren't able to explain it, the public wouldn't know, they'd belie i don't want to win this . look, i want to win based on my policies are better, we're going to cut taxes, we're going interest rates down and you'll be able to buy homes again. you can't buy a home today, the interest rate is so high. i want to win on safe borders. i want to stop the war in ukraine with russia. i want to stop what's happening in israel. israel would never have been attacked if i were president. ukraine would never have ever been attacked if i was president. you wouldn't have had inflation. inflation was caused by high energyrices. i had low energy prices and kept them there, very easily. and probably may be caused the war with ukraine because putin be sudden, it went up so much. i watched president
jack smith, i don't think is any better. leticia james is terrible. she campaigned on i will get trump, i will get trump and then it goes before a trump hating judge. the whole thing is a rigged deal.erstands it. i'm lucky i'm able to explain it to the public because if you weren't able to explain it, the public wouldn't know, they'd belie i don't want to win this . look, i want to win based on my policies are better, we're going to cut taxes, we're going interest rates down and you'll be able...
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what does that reflect on the part of jack smith? >> we don't know that they haven't recovered them. they may have determined that all of those boxes were returned to mar-a-lago or somewhere else. they followed trump around wherever he went. i had a conversation with someone on your team tonight about our shared recollection that when trump showed up in new york last near for a deposition, he was seen outside trump tower with personal aides carting some of those very same sorts of banker's boxes. look. there is a reference in the indictment to the fact that carlos talavera and others shepherded boxes onto a plane as trump was leaving from florida to head north. it never disclosed however, that ryan butler as trump employee number five was among them, and we don't know for sure what happened to those boxes or what was inside. he mac do you feel confident? in the back of my mind, this is all pure speculation. i should warn everyone at home. it seems that jack smith probably more than anyone else at the department of justice has underst
what does that reflect on the part of jack smith? >> we don't know that they haven't recovered them. they may have determined that all of those boxes were returned to mar-a-lago or somewhere else. they followed trump around wherever he went. i had a conversation with someone on your team tonight about our shared recollection that when trump showed up in new york last near for a deposition, he was seen outside trump tower with personal aides carting some of those very same sorts of...
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>> jack smith is not a superhero, so this idea that he has all kinds of levers he can pull with this court to get them to speed up this trial, that is not the case, he is nothing beyond his advocacy and that april 25th hearing, in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority, and there is a lot going on here. so, you are right, i do think about the court in a broader context, this is a big term for the court, even leaving aside his trunk cases, disqualification, the immunity issue, leaving that to the side, the court had enormous cases about the future of the ministry to state and administrative agencies, there are a number of cases about the post jobs reproductive rights case, we heard one of these cases on this week of mifepristone and regulations, and i think you have to think about all of those different parts in this entire docket for this term to understand what might be going on with regard to the trump cases. so, we saw in that oral argument in the abortion case, hold on with me a momen
>> jack smith is not a superhero, so this idea that he has all kinds of levers he can pull with this court to get them to speed up this trial, that is not the case, he is nothing beyond his advocacy and that april 25th hearing, in order to move this forward. and again, to prevail the supreme court, you need five votes. and this is a conservative 6-3 super majority, and there is a lot going on here. so, you are right, i do think about the court in a broader context, this is a big term for...
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i could see jack smith trying to do that. just remember he's got to be thinking it's the start date i'm concerned about, and if you just -- i don't do math in public, but i tried to add 88 to the various perm uitations. it's just not looking good. and that's all assuming that the supreme court doesn't do things tosu delay the case further andt could. >> i'm operating best case scenario. >> he's got analysis odds, not best case scenario, so he's thinking, you h know what, i ha a very strong case in the classified documentsg case. i mean he's got to be thinking this has jury appeal. it's not just the retention of the classified documents, it's twoas forms of obstruction. by all accounts it looks like a incredibly strong case. wecr still have not heard any defense from the former president that passes the straight face test. obviously we'll see what happens at trial. he has to be thinking, okay, let's see if we can get that. it'se still an uphill battle because he's before judge cannon, and there are many ways that that case can
i could see jack smith trying to do that. just remember he's got to be thinking it's the start date i'm concerned about, and if you just -- i don't do math in public, but i tried to add 88 to the various perm uitations. it's just not looking good. and that's all assuming that the supreme court doesn't do things tosu delay the case further andt could. >> i'm operating best case scenario. >> he's got analysis odds, not best case scenario, so he's thinking, you h know what, i ha a very...
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smith the same way. >> i do not have the sufficient information with respect to jack smith east investigation to provide a comment on it. >> if president biden in his testimony to you knew the exact date, january 20th whatever it was, 2009 when he game vice president and the day when he left become vice president january 20th, i guess the first would have been january 20, 2009, el knew the dates right. if he knew the exact date and the instant beau biden died would that have changed your decision not to bring a prosecution? >> sir, i cannot engage in hypotheticals what my decision would have been with different facts. i made a decision based on the facts and circumstances i was presented with and we identified during our investigation. >> it appears to me the minor discrepancies as far as dates after a long period of time was not the basis. it was not the basis for your decision to decline to prosecute. you didn't have the facts. he acted differently than trump. he voluntarily provided the documents and complied with the justice department and didn't try to obstruct justice. those were the re
smith the same way. >> i do not have the sufficient information with respect to jack smith east investigation to provide a comment on it. >> if president biden in his testimony to you knew the exact date, january 20th whatever it was, 2009 when he game vice president and the day when he left become vice president january 20th, i guess the first would have been january 20, 2009, el knew the dates right. if he knew the exact date and the instant beau biden died would that have changed...
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smith's team and jack smith was in the courtroom today, they react to when people stand up and make different points before the judge. >> now the thing >> about judge cannon know is she's very hard to read and she doesn't often tip her hand. this is the one of the first hearings where we have seen her really side or at least indicate that she was going to side one way or another and she did follow that with an order, at least on one of these motions shortly after the hearing. >> and is it clear when she's going to died the trump team's other arguments for dismissal >> no, judges can take however much time they need to make a decision, but the every time that there is a delay in judge cannon issuing an order on one of these motions. trump is making. that's the longer it goes before everyone can set the table for the trial and to see how that will shape up. and anderson, i should add this is two motions where trump is asking to dismiss the case by my count, there are seven more of these that could be argued from both he and his two co-defendants so there are so many things that are st
smith's team and jack smith was in the courtroom today, they react to when people stand up and make different points before the judge. >> now the thing >> about judge cannon know is she's very hard to read and she doesn't often tip her hand. this is the one of the first hearings where we have seen her really side or at least indicate that she was going to side one way or another and she did follow that with an order, at least on one of these motions shortly after the hearing....
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the dates proposed by jack smith is july 8th. donald trump's attorney proposing august 12th saying this thing should not go on even before the election and making the argument for that. eileen kent has indicated that that date will likely not stick because the amount of discovery that trump's attorneys are going to have to go through. when it comes to questions, i thought it was important we talk about this, there is some crossovers that were submitted when it came to the questionnaire. what bumper stickers do you have on your car, and then some differences between what jack smith is submitting when it comes to a jury questionnaire, versus what is being submitted by trump's attorneys. trump's attorneys want to know who you voted for, for instance, in the 2020 election. did you vote? jack smith and his attorneys wanting to know, for instance, do you feel as if trump won the election or who won the election? and i think that's interesting because as i look around here, there is a lot of donald trump supporters sitting around me rig
the dates proposed by jack smith is july 8th. donald trump's attorney proposing august 12th saying this thing should not go on even before the election and making the argument for that. eileen kent has indicated that that date will likely not stick because the amount of discovery that trump's attorneys are going to have to go through. when it comes to questions, i thought it was important we talk about this, there is some crossovers that were submitted when it came to the questionnaire. what...
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but on top of that, you also have this argument that some are making. >> jack smith's team announced the 60-day rule and unwritten rule of justice department they're not supposed to take action within 60 dais of an election to avoid influencing it. it's regarded as not pop aretivm and i take that to mean they expect that trump will lose the immunity claim and that they will be able to begin a trial against him after labor day and run that trial through election day if that's how long it takes to try it. so i think that, you know, to the extent that people are looking at what happened today and saying the law fare campaign has failed. i would point out to people that a defendant is required to be in court for every day of a criminal trial, and i think these guys are planning to try him from september to november. neil: that would be very disruptive for donald trump in the middle of a presidential campaign assuming he's the republican nominee and if he's convicted on any of the charges, how that would resinate. the consensus seems to be a conviction changing the game. i'm not so sure a
but on top of that, you also have this argument that some are making. >> jack smith's team announced the 60-day rule and unwritten rule of justice department they're not supposed to take action within 60 dais of an election to avoid influencing it. it's regarded as not pop aretivm and i take that to mean they expect that trump will lose the immunity claim and that they will be able to begin a trial against him after labor day and run that trial through election day if that's how long it...
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if that sounds like a familiar issue, jack smith has more than one case against defendant trump. so, the defendant was actually down in federal court today watching as doj prosecutors argued for a july beginning to a trial in the other jack smith case, earlier in the week discussing the big coup case and the supreme court slowing that down. this is the classified documents case, you probably remember both, and -- they are saying, over at the doj, there is nothing in their rule or precedents which prevents this trial, on the documents, from occurring in weeks, even days before the election. and remember, it's donald trump is the defendant who's been delaying both cases. on the flipside, i want to tell you donald trump's team are saying, well, they don't like the idea of this trial happening at all but they offered august s.a.t. possible date. we learned about that new development last night, if you haven't been watching the beat, because you came through in a filing and that was a change. now today in court, with donald trump sitting there, we saw all of this play out at the heari
if that sounds like a familiar issue, jack smith has more than one case against defendant trump. so, the defendant was actually down in federal court today watching as doj prosecutors argued for a july beginning to a trial in the other jack smith case, earlier in the week discussing the big coup case and the supreme court slowing that down. this is the classified documents case, you probably remember both, and -- they are saying, over at the doj, there is nothing in their rule or precedents...
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then you have deranged jack smith, who is a trump hater and represents all the trump haters. and he is going, he's just a wild man, he has been overturned unanimously by the supreme court , went after other people over the years. he's a great failure. he's mean, he's nasty, he's unfair and the judges on these cases are all trump haters. we have maybe one or two that i think and be fair. u look at new york what has happened. these people have tremendous hatred. you can't do this to a president. i'm not talking about me, i'm talking about in the future. a president has to be free. if the president does a good job -- i did some people would say a great job. but if the president does a good free and clear, and frankly celebrated for having done a good job, not indicted four times, and knock on after on a civil basis. and not demanded to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in fines for something that was absolutely perfect where there were no victims, while -- where their financial statements were absolutely flawless. where you have disclaimer clauses. nobody has ever had a thing
then you have deranged jack smith, who is a trump hater and represents all the trump haters. and he is going, he's just a wild man, he has been overturned unanimously by the supreme court , went after other people over the years. he's a great failure. he's mean, he's nasty, he's unfair and the judges on these cases are all trump haters. we have maybe one or two that i think and be fair. u look at new york what has happened. these people have tremendous hatred. you can't do this to a president....
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tonight, jack smith is now proposing a trial date of july 8th. the trump team, though, is still pushing for this to happen after the election. there's a hearing on this tomorrow, though, where we may hear more from the judge. david? >> david: mary bruce on both stories tonight. mary, thank you. >>> we turn now to that horrific scene in gaza. tonight, authorities say more than 100 palestinians were killed and at least 700 were injured in a stampede for much-needed food that was arriving, and then israeli gunfire. how the israeli military is now explaining this. abc's tom soufi burridge in israel. >> reporter: tonight, the moment israeli troops opened fire at a crowd of gazans desperate for food near a convoy of aid trucks. this surveillance video showing thousands of people surrounding the vital supplies moving into northern gaza. an israeli tank firing warning shots, attempting to disperse what they called a threatening crowd. the idf claiming self-defense, saying they were there to support the convoy, and when people who rushed the convoy got to
tonight, jack smith is now proposing a trial date of july 8th. the trump team, though, is still pushing for this to happen after the election. there's a hearing on this tomorrow, though, where we may hear more from the judge. david? >> david: mary bruce on both stories tonight. mary, thank you. >>> we turn now to that horrific scene in gaza. tonight, authorities say more than 100 palestinians were killed and at least 700 were injured in a stampede for much-needed food that was...
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that is why jack smith is saying these aargue. s designed to delay the trial. >> the stormy danielles hush money case, will the consequences be a slap on the wrist for trump? >> i don't think so. you have to remember this same conduct was charged federally by the southern district of new york. and michael cohen was charged and convicted with exiting federal election fraud. and he served three years in prison for that. here are the charges are that donald trump falsified business records but in order to conceal or commit that same federal election law violation as well as violating other laws, l. again he could face prison time. somebody has. these are serious charges and should not be underestimated. >> yesterday, ty cobb was not impressed with trump in the new york civil cases. will trump keep his attorney on the team? >> if the civil cases where she is on all of the briefings for appeal he added another lawyer an appellate lawyer the same lawyer who argued in the dc immunity appeal. and so he has added lawyers but as of now, ali
that is why jack smith is saying these aargue. s designed to delay the trial. >> the stormy danielles hush money case, will the consequences be a slap on the wrist for trump? >> i don't think so. you have to remember this same conduct was charged federally by the southern district of new york. and michael cohen was charged and convicted with exiting federal election fraud. and he served three years in prison for that. here are the charges are that donald trump falsified business...
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the judge issued an order to special counsel jack smith's team as well as defense attorneys requesting they submit jury instructions in anticipation of a trial. in her two-page order the judge said prosecutor and defense team must engage with the following competing scenarios. option one is to let a jury examine every record a former president retains at the end of his or her presidency and determine whether or not it's personal, or jurors must be told that, quote, a president has sole authority to categorize records as personal or presidential during his or her presidency. as "the washington post" noted that second hypothetical would appear to be one in which trump seemingly could not be convicted almost under any set of facts of improperly possessing classified documents. >>> and we've got yet another development in a separate trump legal case now. the judge overseeing his hush money case has denied the former president's request to keep two key witnesses from taking the stand. in a court filing last month, trump's legal team sought to block michael cohen and stormy daniels from test
the judge issued an order to special counsel jack smith's team as well as defense attorneys requesting they submit jury instructions in anticipation of a trial. in her two-page order the judge said prosecutor and defense team must engage with the following competing scenarios. option one is to let a jury examine every record a former president retains at the end of his or her presidency and determine whether or not it's personal, or jurors must be told that, quote, a president has sole...
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then you have deranged jack smith who is a trump hater and represents the alls going wild. he's a wild man. he's been overturned unanimouslr other people over the years. he's had great failure but he's mean and nasty and unfair and the judges on this case are all trump haters other than we havee fair but you look at new york what's happened. these people have tremendous hatred. you can't do this to a president. again, i'm not just talking about me but i'm talking about in the future. a president has to be free. a president has to be -- if the president does a good job, i did. some people would say a great job. but if the president does a good job, a president should be free and clear and frankly celebrated for having done a good job, not indicted four times and n a civt demanded to pay hundredsf in fig that was absolutely perfect where there were no victims, where the financial statements were a disclaimer clauses. nobody ever had a thing like this. i wasn't given a jury. i had a clubhouse judge just come up with this number on a perfect line and very conservative financial
then you have deranged jack smith who is a trump hater and represents the alls going wild. he's a wild man. he's been overturned unanimouslr other people over the years. he's had great failure but he's mean and nasty and unfair and the judges on this case are all trump haters other than we havee fair but you look at new york what's happened. these people have tremendous hatred. you can't do this to a president. again, i'm not just talking about me but i'm talking about in the future. a...
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i if i were jack smith. jack smith from that perspective, i think i would be happy with that performance. >> all right. a whole lot going on today. thank you both so much for being sara. >> all right >> new economic data out right now, inflation rates not going in the direction economists had hoped in february, they rose slightly just under half a percentage point to an annual rate of 3.2% in the midst of an election year stamping out inflation. a bit of a rough go. cnn's vanessa okay, but just joining us now, what do these numbers tell us? this is not the direction that people wanted to see inflation going. >> we want to be moving in the opposite direction, but a slight increase year over year ticking up to 3.2% month over month, up 0.4%. that's largely where economists thought we would be because we've been seeing increasing gas it's prices that's actually the largest monthly gain we've seen since september. but when we look at inflation, we need to sort of step back and realize that although these numbers
i if i were jack smith. jack smith from that perspective, i think i would be happy with that performance. >> all right. a whole lot going on today. thank you both so much for being sara. >> all right >> new economic data out right now, inflation rates not going in the direction economists had hoped in february, they rose slightly just under half a percentage point to an annual rate of 3.2% in the midst of an election year stamping out inflation. a bit of a rough go. cnn's...
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this really does push things back for jack smith. let's say that the president has, is found not to be immune, jack smith, and then go to the trial. but the supreme court, they won't issue a ruling until may or maybe even june. and then that will push the trial judge has said the parties need, you know, as much as three months to prepare for the trial. if that pushes it right into september which is, i mean, talk about a tough decision for merrick garland. are you going let that trial proceed in the middle of a campaign? >> well, to be very clear, department of justice guidelines would say that you would absolutely not allow that trial to continue because they have a very firm rule written around the justice department interfering or using prosecutions or engaging in prosecutions in a a way that can affect the outcome of elections. they've always struck very strongly to that. by the way, ask hunter biden whose own prosecution we now know was delayed multiple times because of the fear that this would somehow interfere with joe biden a
this really does push things back for jack smith. let's say that the president has, is found not to be immune, jack smith, and then go to the trial. but the supreme court, they won't issue a ruling until may or maybe even june. and then that will push the trial judge has said the parties need, you know, as much as three months to prepare for the trial. if that pushes it right into september which is, i mean, talk about a tough decision for merrick garland. are you going let that trial proceed...
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so we've got donald trump, jack smith, judge, aileen cannon altogether what was it like in there >> all in the room? judge, aileen cannon had a lot of media things to walk through. she didn't ask that many questions for a hearing that had so many details that they needed to deal with and even trumping in the room in the same place as jack smith. >> it was >> a little bit more a relaxed than in past hearings where i've sat in the courtroom and watched each of these people look at each other or glance at each other, trump appeared to be a lot more relaxing facts than in past hearings. he didn't whisper much with his attorneys as he's done previously. he instead sat there, he listened pretty passively for most of the hearing is the arguments were being made but dana at a couple of points, there were heated arguments being made, especially whenever donald trump's defense lawyer, todd blanche put out on the table what is really the thing that nobody had had wanted to talk about in this case up to that point this morning, and that was this idea. of the election. should this case go to trial b
so we've got donald trump, jack smith, judge, aileen cannon altogether what was it like in there >> all in the room? judge, aileen cannon had a lot of media things to walk through. she didn't ask that many questions for a hearing that had so many details that they needed to deal with and even trumping in the room in the same place as jack smith. >> it was >> a little bit more a relaxed than in past hearings where i've sat in the courtroom and watched each of these people look...
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you know, when this case was first set out back in august, jack smith's case, today was the day they scheduled, right? they were actually trying, you know, we would be getting into questions of jury selection. we would be getting into potentially opening arguments this week. it would be all unfolding theoretically, but that's not what happened because of what happened in the appeals process and what happened in the supreme court behind me here, and, you know, even after this, there's still going to be two of these charges against donald trump that are still, i think sort of up in the air. two of the charges that jack smith brought were also using its more than 300 january 6th defendants itself, and we don't know that until how the supreme court sees that will be applied. the question is whether or not the question of donald -- how much responsibility donald trump bears for what happened on january 6th, and then the aftermath of the 2020 election will be resolved before we get to another election and that's not a situation that, you know, a lot of folks thought they would be in in the
you know, when this case was first set out back in august, jack smith's case, today was the day they scheduled, right? they were actually trying, you know, we would be getting into questions of jury selection. we would be getting into potentially opening arguments this week. it would be all unfolding theoretically, but that's not what happened because of what happened in the appeals process and what happened in the supreme court behind me here, and, you know, even after this, there's still...
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smith won't be able to appeal it to the 11th circuit court of appeals and then jack smith is done on that claim. so it's a temporary victory, a victory for now. >> and exactly, and that's why i called it auditions. mr. hur and ms. cannon might see themselves as justices when clarence thomas and alito predictably resign if a republican becomes president. that's just me. let me read the letter from donald trump's lawyers to congress. they said this, we have seen absolutely no indication that president trump knowingly possessed any of the marked documents or willfully broke any laws. rather, all indications are that the presence of marked documents at mar-a-lago was the result of haphazard records keeping and packing by white house staff and gsa, so blaming them. the applicable statute is willful retention. to prove willful retention, the prosecutor must establish it was knowing. now let's play donald trump talking about willful possession. >> i can't imagine you ever saying, bring me some of the boxes that we brought back from the white house. i would like to look at them. did you ever
smith won't be able to appeal it to the 11th circuit court of appeals and then jack smith is done on that claim. so it's a temporary victory, a victory for now. >> and exactly, and that's why i called it auditions. mr. hur and ms. cannon might see themselves as justices when clarence thomas and alito predictably resign if a republican becomes president. that's just me. let me read the letter from donald trump's lawyers to congress. they said this, we have seen absolutely no indication...
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>> no. >> was anybody interviewing with jack smith or his work? >> i do not have the basis to answer that question. >> your summation, which we treat as thoughtful and unpolitical, we should treat decisions by jack smith the same way to your knowledge? >> i do not have sufficient information with regard to jack smith see investigation to provide any comment on it. >> let me ask you this, if president biden in his testimony to you, knew the exact date, whatever date it was when he came vice president, and when he left as vice president, and it would be january 20th -- he knew the dates exactly right, and if he knew the exact date and the instant that his son died, would not have changed your decision to bring about prosecution? >> i cannot engage in hypotheticals, and what i did was make a decision on the facts and circumstances i was presented with. >> it appears to me, and i think it would appear to the american public, that these minor discrepancies as far as dates after a long period of time was not the basis, it was not the basis of your decis
>> no. >> was anybody interviewing with jack smith or his work? >> i do not have the basis to answer that question. >> your summation, which we treat as thoughtful and unpolitical, we should treat decisions by jack smith the same way to your knowledge? >> i do not have sufficient information with regard to jack smith see investigation to provide any comment on it. >> let me ask you this, if president biden in his testimony to you, knew the exact date,...
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for jack smith to get her recused from the case, it takes a high burden. you have to show that she's biassed and it's rare for an appellant court to remove a judge from the case, but every time you see the rulings and delays that she builds into the case, you have to believe she's getting closer to that line. >> let's go to another case in georgia. trump's legal team started to maneuvering after fani willis was kept on the case. what are they trying to do there? >> donald trump wants to delay that case, and it's going to be delayed past the election anyways. he thinks maybe there's a chance to get her disqualified and that would kill the case and it would get reassigned to the same prosecutor that may not share the same zeal as fani willis. it's something called an interlock tory appeal, and it means you could take the appeal right away instead of waiting until the trial is over. donald trump likes to appeal everything possible, because the longer he can delay things the better his chances of never being put on trial in any of these matters. >> garrett, me
for jack smith to get her recused from the case, it takes a high burden. you have to show that she's biassed and it's rare for an appellant court to remove a judge from the case, but every time you see the rulings and delays that she builds into the case, you have to believe she's getting closer to that line. >> let's go to another case in georgia. trump's legal team started to maneuvering after fani willis was kept on the case. what are they trying to do there? >> donald trump...
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>> i don't think jack smith wants to remove her. i think you would rather not do that because it is an extreme measure. she did get adverse rulings including from trump appointees twice. that was in the preindictment phase of this case when it was a civil case brought by trump. a totally bizarre kind of situation. she would in figure of him -- favor of him in a really wacky way. it's sort of like a three strikes and you're out kind of situation. again, i don't think jack smith wants to do that. they would have to reassign. they would have to find another judge. i think he is keeping his fingers crossed. i think we are also aware of the possibility that judge cannon could go rogue again. >> then there is the whole question of what she can do to the rest of the calendar. let's start this conversation with an opinion you hold that i think is a hard one for people who seek accountability for donald trump to hear. talk to me about your view are the chances that the federal election interference case goes to trial before november. >> i th
>> i don't think jack smith wants to remove her. i think you would rather not do that because it is an extreme measure. she did get adverse rulings including from trump appointees twice. that was in the preindictment phase of this case when it was a civil case brought by trump. a totally bizarre kind of situation. she would in figure of him -- favor of him in a really wacky way. it's sort of like a three strikes and you're out kind of situation. again, i don't think jack smith wants to do...
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after jack smith smiled proposed child date in july 8th. donald trump's lawyers did not ask for a date after the presidential election. they didn't ask for a date next year. they asked for a trial date, just four weeks later on august 12th. after four weeks requested by jack smith donald trump's favor, judge aileen mercedes, can he appointed to her federal judgeship will decide that trial date. , and republicans were very disappointed today and hunter biden's closed-door testimony under oath to a republican- controlled house committee. because, apparently, his testimony was solid and clear about his father not being involved in his business. and because of jones and the transcript that was released tonight, like. this mr. gaetz, were you on drugs when you were on the board. the witness, mr. gaetz, look me in the eye you really think that's appropriate to ask me? mr., gates absolutely, the witness -- of all the people sitting around this table, do you think that's appropriate to ask me? >> congressman gaetz, of course, of all the people sitt
after jack smith smiled proposed child date in july 8th. donald trump's lawyers did not ask for a date after the presidential election. they didn't ask for a date next year. they asked for a trial date, just four weeks later on august 12th. after four weeks requested by jack smith donald trump's favor, judge aileen mercedes, can he appointed to her federal judgeship will decide that trial date. , and republicans were very disappointed today and hunter biden's closed-door testimony under oath to...
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. >> a key hearing in jack smith's classified documents case against trump is set for this thursday. meanwhile, there's also news today on trump's first criminal trial, the hush money case in new york. a trump filing today saying he may blame his lawyers for the criminal chemo, but he'll try to do that without losing the attorney-client privilege. joining me now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc analyst and co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast and co-host of the strict scrutiny podcast. two of the very best getting us started this evening. joyce, i'd like to begin with you. for today in the hur hearing, no new evidence was heard. no perry mason moments happened. did anything occur in this hearing to change the fact there's been only one president, former president trump, that is facing criminal charges for mishandling classified documents? >> you know, katie, this hearing underlined the distinction between donald trump and joe biden for anyone who's listening. it's very clear when you read hur's report and when you hear hur repeat his report out loud at the requ
. >> a key hearing in jack smith's classified documents case against trump is set for this thursday. meanwhile, there's also news today on trump's first criminal trial, the hush money case in new york. a trump filing today saying he may blame his lawyers for the criminal chemo, but he'll try to do that without losing the attorney-client privilege. joining me now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc analyst and co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast and co-host of the...
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do you think jack smith is going to do it? when she says something like i want you to consider this, does she have to? >> i think he has to comply with the order. he will get an order back from the court about jury instructions. very unusual this early in the case. there is not even a trial date set. then he will have an appealable order. >> is this putting the cart in front of the horse? there is no trial date set yet. >> this is completely putting the cart for the horse. there is no trial date yet. the judge is signaling, as she has signal from the get-go she does not believe in the case and does not believe it is warranted. she is stacking the deck in favor of the defendant. >> is there anything jack smith can do to get this moving along? >> he has successfully appealed prior orders to the appellate court and the appellate court has on multiple occasions reversed this judge. i would expect if there is an order on these jury instructions, as she is already signaling he will go right back to the appellate court. >> let's move
do you think jack smith is going to do it? when she says something like i want you to consider this, does she have to? >> i think he has to comply with the order. he will get an order back from the court about jury instructions. very unusual this early in the case. there is not even a trial date set. then he will have an appealable order. >> is this putting the cart in front of the horse? there is no trial date set yet. >> this is completely putting the cart for the horse....
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donald trump would be able to end both federal prosecutions against him by special prosecutor jack smith, who would be instantly fired by donald trump, and the two state prosecutions against him in new york and georgia would be forced into at least a four year delay until donald trump is no longer president. if donald trump wins, then justice loses. if donald trump wins, human decency loses. if donald trump wins, then all is lost. and as of tonight, most american voters know that. joe biden is going to win millions more votes than donald trump, but this is the country where you can come in second with the voters and still become president. still win. thanks to the perversion of democracy the founders called the electoral college. and as of tonight, not enough people in a handful of so- called battleground states who will decide this election understand the stakes of this election. not enough people in those few states yet understand what they will lose if donald trump wins. and so, we begin tonight with what is now the most important of those stories that we will be covering this year, b
donald trump would be able to end both federal prosecutions against him by special prosecutor jack smith, who would be instantly fired by donald trump, and the two state prosecutions against him in new york and georgia would be forced into at least a four year delay until donald trump is no longer president. if donald trump wins, then justice loses. if donald trump wins, human decency loses. if donald trump wins, then all is lost. and as of tonight, most american voters know that. joe biden is...
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in this instance, both jack smith, for the government, and the former president framed the questions differently, from each other. and it just so happens, that it's itnot unusual, the supreme court framed the question differently than both of those two parties, so as to require briefing and decision on the question that the court itself wants e to decide. now, what is that question? there's been a lot of discussion as to the framing of the question. in my view, a lot of that is a tempest in the teapot. at the end of the day, the court has asked the parties to brief the question that's an issue in the prosecution of the former president. mainly, whether the former president violated the constitution. when he acting, in his official capacity, as then president of the united states, sought to overturn the election in 2020, and obstructed the official proceeding of d the joint sessi of congress to count the electoral votes. that court, of course, can decide that question is narrowly or as broadly as it wishes. but this is a paradigm of a case where the courts will almost certainly decide
in this instance, both jack smith, for the government, and the former president framed the questions differently, from each other. and it just so happens, that it's itnot unusual, the supreme court framed the question differently than both of those two parties, so as to require briefing and decision on the question that the court itself wants e to decide. now, what is that question? there's been a lot of discussion as to the framing of the question. in my view, a lot of that is a tempest in the...
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jack smith in a new response shreds trumps immunity claims in the classified documents case, calling them frivolous and outlandish. do you think smith's filing is a preview of what he plans to argue before the supreme court in april, even though there are two different cases here? >> so, they are two different cases, and they deal with two different moments in donald trump's tenure as a president and as a former president. so, the events of january 6th, clearly during the course or the end of donald trump's presidency, whereas the mar-a- lago documents case, most of the action there takes place after donald trump is no longer president. that is a really important question for the issue of presidential immunity, because again, the idea that presidents enjoy immunization from legal liability is really because they need to have the time and not be distracted by legal processes while they are actually functioning is present. so the claims of immunity are not as strong in circumstances where the action took place after the presidency was over. donald trump is arguing, though, that in the
jack smith in a new response shreds trumps immunity claims in the classified documents case, calling them frivolous and outlandish. do you think smith's filing is a preview of what he plans to argue before the supreme court in april, even though there are two different cases here? >> so, they are two different cases, and they deal with two different moments in donald trump's tenure as a president and as a former president. so, the events of january 6th, clearly during the course or the...
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jack smith whatever happened to jack smith where is that guy? jack where are you man. jack, is that even a real guy. jack smith a bees jack spratt's wife could eat no fat, no lien, no lien, no lien no lien. please don't take my man. >> greg: jim i still understand the cut the money down to 145 billion who do you right the check to when there's no victim. if they say he has to send the check to new york city that means the money is disappearing. who is the victim i don't get this. >> exactly. >> he also says it's an honor who else would say it's an honor to pay that. he said he would pay it in cash if he has to you know who will show up with pounds of cash. >> greg: 145,000,001-dollar bills. >> and the rest in pennies. >> greg: i think he should do that i think tyrus came up with the idea. >> disney other commercial where he's on the two-dollar bill like actual ones we will pay in that. >> greg: 70, 80, you are them and bears himself. tyrus is this still backfiring and democrats? >> i feel i'm watching old movies were the villains just keep telling you what they are goi
jack smith whatever happened to jack smith where is that guy? jack where are you man. jack, is that even a real guy. jack smith a bees jack spratt's wife could eat no fat, no lien, no lien, no lien no lien. please don't take my man. >> greg: jim i still understand the cut the money down to 145 billion who do you right the check to when there's no victim. if they say he has to send the check to new york city that means the money is disappearing. who is the victim i don't get this. >>...
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isabel for jack smith to try his other case, the dc case, the january 6 case. and if i'm donald trump's team, that is a win for me. >> yeah, good point. gloria. this is already been a very, very unique election as we all know, what would a leading presidential candidate in this particular against trump potentially being criminally charged? and tried during this election period. what would that look like >> well, it's hard to kind of gain that out. i think it would look a lot like it looks now, which is donald trump, at every opportunity talking about how this is election interference. it's a witch-hunt. he's not guilty of any wrongdoing and trying and to use it to rally the base. i think the question here is, how would joe biden play it? and what would what would he say about these pending felony charges and what would the democrats do and what would independent voters do? you know, our polls show that voters wants some resolution to one of these trials before the election. they want to know guilty, not guilty. and if that doesn't happen, and he is on trial, it
isabel for jack smith to try his other case, the dc case, the january 6 case. and if i'm donald trump's team, that is a win for me. >> yeah, good point. gloria. this is already been a very, very unique election as we all know, what would a leading presidential candidate in this particular against trump potentially being criminally charged? and tried during this election period. what would that look like >> well, it's hard to kind of gain that out. i think it would look a lot like it...
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jack smith has argued this is a matter of national importance, we want votes to know before they go to the polls. on the other side, there are millions of pages in discovery, why speed if up this trial because to speed if it up would also potentially appear if political. howard: yeah. either way, you get a lot of -- >> kind of a rorschach test. howard: yes. >> depending on where you are is how you view this case. howard: and special counsel jack smith knowing the trial was already being delayed, for how long we don't know, he's also handling the classified documents case. expected to take about six weeks. he wants to start in july, trump says august. is this a little like college basketball before the shot clock where one team wants the hurry-up offense and the other is slow-walking everything? >> and the funny thing is the idea of a speedy trial in our legal system is generally to the benefit of a defendant. they have the right to push and say, come on, my justice is being delayed. it's not that it goes to the prosecutorial side which is how it feels in this case. there's no denying t
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so the indictment brought by jack smith. the very terms of your analysis, jack smith's indictment actually counseled against and was counted against bringing charges in this case. is that correct? >> i'm sorry, congressman. i don't follow your drift there. >> you said there is already deterrence, there is a prosecution out there in a prior case related to classified documents so we don't need to bring another case to establish value. that was the essence of your analysis, correct? >> congressman, what i'll say is that i will stand by the way and specific words in which i characterize my assessment of deterrence on page 254 and 255. >> my time is out, per verse implication here, by the terms of your analysis made it less likely that the president would face charges by jack smith bringing an indictment. thank you, i yield back. >> mr. chairman, unanimous consent request. i ask unanimous consent to enter into the record two documents, first the superceding indictment against donald trump in the southern district of florida wher
so the indictment brought by jack smith. the very terms of your analysis, jack smith's indictment actually counseled against and was counted against bringing charges in this case. is that correct? >> i'm sorry, congressman. i don't follow your drift there. >> you said there is already deterrence, there is a prosecution out there in a prior case related to classified documents so we don't need to bring another case to establish value. that was the essence of your analysis, correct?...
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i want to read for you what the new york times is reporting about jack smith. she asked about when smith was going to present the prosecution list. the new york times wrote this -- smith in particular seems shocked by the question and sat up stiff lee in the well of the courtroom, his eyes gone wide in apparent incredulity. there has been a lot of talk specifically in judge aileen cannon's courtroom about -- and other pretrial motions as well in which they talk about the potential harassment of prosecution witnesses. i am wondering if you feel like that is what was playing into this report from the new york times about jack smith's incredulity. >> it sounds like so. they have already requested that some names be withheld from the fence until absolutely necessary. we know that donald trump just has a history of attacking witnesses and prosecutors and judges and juries, so that could be one reason. also, we know that everyone was waiting for a trial date to be announced and one was not at all. there's really no clarity when that case will start. i know there's a
i want to read for you what the new york times is reporting about jack smith. she asked about when smith was going to present the prosecution list. the new york times wrote this -- smith in particular seems shocked by the question and sat up stiff lee in the well of the courtroom, his eyes gone wide in apparent incredulity. there has been a lot of talk specifically in judge aileen cannon's courtroom about -- and other pretrial motions as well in which they talk about the potential harassment of...
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you're exactly right because he told us when jack smith goes after president trump, joe biden says, how could this happen? what data was in those documents that could compromise sources and methods? it's irresponsible so joe biden knew the role rules, you know, he knew the rules and joe biden told us he knew the rules. so mr. her, why did he break them? >> the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is not one that we explicitly address in the report the report explains my decision to the attorney general that no criminal charges were warranted in this matter. >> i think you did tell us. i think he told us mr. page to 31. you said this president biden had strong motivations. that's a key word. we're getting a motive now, president biden had strong motivations to ignore the proper procedures for safeguarding the classified information in his notebooks. why did he have strong motivations? because you next word, because he decided months before leaving office to write a book, to write a book that was his motive. he knew the rules are broken because he was writing a book.
you're exactly right because he told us when jack smith goes after president trump, joe biden says, how could this happen? what data was in those documents that could compromise sources and methods? it's irresponsible so joe biden knew the role rules, you know, he knew the rules and joe biden told us he knew the rules. so mr. her, why did he break them? >> the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is not one that we explicitly address in the report the report explains...
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special counsel jack smith wants the trial to start in july. while trump's attorneys say the earliest the trials should start is august, although they would prefer never. the ultimate decision here has the potential to create chaos on trump's legal calendar. the later she schedules her trial, the more likely she is to block any january 6 election interference trial from going to trial before the election. and now we have learned that next thursday, judge cannon will hear arguments by team trump to dismiss the documents case altogether. david latt joins me now, a columnist at bloomberg law and the host of the original jurisdiction podcast. it's great to see you. welcome to the program. >> thanks for having me, alex. >> so how do you read the tea leafs on the fact that judge cannon is scheduling a hearing on a motion to dismiss before she has set a trial date? is that not a great sign for people who are hoping to see this trial come to fruition? >> well, she has a lot of work to get through. because the trump team has basically filed a kitchen si
special counsel jack smith wants the trial to start in july. while trump's attorneys say the earliest the trials should start is august, although they would prefer never. the ultimate decision here has the potential to create chaos on trump's legal calendar. the later she schedules her trial, the more likely she is to block any january 6 election interference trial from going to trial before the election. and now we have learned that next thursday, judge cannon will hear arguments by team trump...
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but i will urge you to bring it up later when i can deny it in a way jack smith can't appeal it. let me read one thing from the order because this is not a jury instruction. this is a command to the jury that you may not convict. a president has sole authority under the presidential records act to categorize records as personal. neither a court nor a your is permitted to make or review such a categorization decision. and outgoing president's decision to exclude what he considers to be personal records from the presidential records transmitted to the national archives. constitutes a president's categorization of those records as personal. that is not a jury instruction. that is a command to the jury that you may not convict donald trump because of what i have just instructed you. this is the kind of thing that i suggest further supports a motion to recuse because her impartiality might reasonably be questioned and that is the federal standard for when a judge shall remove themselves from the case. >> quickly because we are out of time, glen. but from what you have read, to me, tha
but i will urge you to bring it up later when i can deny it in a way jack smith can't appeal it. let me read one thing from the order because this is not a jury instruction. this is a command to the jury that you may not convict. a president has sole authority under the presidential records act to categorize records as personal. neither a court nor a your is permitted to make or review such a categorization decision. and outgoing president's decision to exclude what he considers to be personal...
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that is the jack smith wasn't constitutionally appointed. these are complicated issues. they need that last one seems it seems maybe potentially farfetched, but also at one point, jay bratt, who is the prosecutor for the special counsel, >> he was actually at mar-a-lago, the de that it was rated, he said that a justice department policy that discourages public investigative actions 60 days before an election doesn't apply here because that implies two indictments or for, or starting an investigation. but given donald trump was charged so long ago in this case, that that's not relevant to you agree with that >> he's technically right. i don't think that it's right that it's not relevant. i think the same policy problems that arise with having the investigation within 60 days or the election or even amplified by having a trial. so i think he's technically right about the policy, but i think the policy ought to be applied to a trial. >> and david, you're from the south. let me ask you on what we were watching today happening in georgia. do you think the defense attorneys ha
that is the jack smith wasn't constitutionally appointed. these are complicated issues. they need that last one seems it seems maybe potentially farfetched, but also at one point, jay bratt, who is the prosecutor for the special counsel, >> he was actually at mar-a-lago, the de that it was rated, he said that a justice department policy that discourages public investigative actions 60 days before an election doesn't apply here because that implies two indictments or for, or starting an...
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lago jack smith's team clearly disagrees. they countered with this, even if the raft of highly classified documents that trump took from the white house to mar-a-lago. we're somehow categorized as personal under the presidential records act that would not render his retention of those documents authorized what do you think of this? >> so what the former president is trying to do is say that force of our claiming power, no one that he doesn't have, the presidential records act is concerned with keeping our proper record of his official acts while in office. so it's not a case where the business he's conducting dozen is not maintained or historical purpose this is that permits him to designate certain items is personal, meaning. this wasn't me doing something as president, it was me as an individual. that's completely and wholly separate from classified documents, which by any stretch of imagination are going to be presidential in nature. that's all about doing the job of the presidency. the idea that a document regarding nucle
lago jack smith's team clearly disagrees. they countered with this, even if the raft of highly classified documents that trump took from the white house to mar-a-lago. we're somehow categorized as personal under the presidential records act that would not render his retention of those documents authorized what do you think of this? >> so what the former president is trying to do is say that force of our claiming power, no one that he doesn't have, the presidential records act is concerned...
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they could've taken up this issue back in december, when jack smith urge them to consider his emergency appeal and keep the trial on schedule. but of course, they did not. they waited until this week to announce they would take up the case, and they will wait until late april to even hear the oral arguments. they know exactly what this means for the trial schedule. they have a calendar, and they didn't anyway. since the spring court may not claim there in the political business, but they just knowingly put the country in a position where people may not know if they are voting for a criminal conviction -- that's injecting yourself into politics, i'm not sure what is. we don't know for certain if there will be a trial november. there could be, there's a very real chance we could still see one. and we will talk about that today. at the same time, we are also facing a harsh but important reality that's important to call out. we cannot depend on the justice system protecting us from the day one dictator. there is no fairytales or anything. and yes it's true if trump does not stand trial befo
they could've taken up this issue back in december, when jack smith urge them to consider his emergency appeal and keep the trial on schedule. but of course, they did not. they waited until this week to announce they would take up the case, and they will wait until late april to even hear the oral arguments. they know exactly what this means for the trial schedule. they have a calendar, and they didn't anyway. since the spring court may not claim there in the political business, but they just...
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the proposed date so far by jack smith specifically was july 8th, by donald trump's attorneys was august 12th. quite frankly they said they want this thing to happen after the election. there was some overlapse when it comes to the juror questionnaires. we want to focus on the date that may come out of this hearing today. and whether or not there's going to be any collaboration between judge aileen cannon and the other judges in the other cases and trials in which the former president is facing. we know there's collaboration between judge juanmarchand, he had a collaboration with judge chutkan in choosing that date. the d.c. trial is pushed back because of the immunity decision by the supreme court to hear that case on april 22nd or to hear the issue of immunity on april 22nd. so the question is whether or not aileen cannon is going to be speaking with other judges, a, and b, whether or not she's going to say, hey, listen, we have to wait for this decision to come from the supreme court before we can declare a date and postpone this thing indefinitely. either way, this date will be pushe
the proposed date so far by jack smith specifically was july 8th, by donald trump's attorneys was august 12th. quite frankly they said they want this thing to happen after the election. there was some overlapse when it comes to the juror questionnaires. we want to focus on the date that may come out of this hearing today. and whether or not there's going to be any collaboration between judge aileen cannon and the other judges in the other cases and trials in which the former president is...
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and now he finds himself at the center of jack smith's indictment of the former president in the classified documents case. and is privy to key parts of that testimony that we read through in those indictments, he provided a lot of that testimony to the special counsel's team about key moments that now will likely potentially go on trial as soon as this summer in this case, one of those jake that you're about to listen to, it moment that we spoke about where main butler told us about how he was on this day in june 2022, not knowing what exactly he was doing, but he was asked to help load boxes. banker boxes, on to trump's plane at an airport in palm beach, florida as the former president was set to go to new jersey now what he did not realize that the time that was happening, then was trump's team, his legal team was meeting with members of the fbi at mar-a-lago after they had just performed a search of that storage room looking for classified documents, which we now know based on the indictment. of course, that evan corcoran trump's attorney, who was looking through those documents walt na
and now he finds himself at the center of jack smith's indictment of the former president in the classified documents case. and is privy to key parts of that testimony that we read through in those indictments, he provided a lot of that testimony to the special counsel's team about key moments that now will likely potentially go on trial as soon as this summer in this case, one of those jake that you're about to listen to, it moment that we spoke about where main butler told us about how he was...
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now, according to our katelyn polantz, who was in the courtroom, trump barry looked at jack smith and the proceeding not more than once or twice the entire time front now, ty cobb, the former trump white house lawyer so ty of course, the judge in this case is aileen cannon, nominated to the bench by trump. she has thus far issued decisions in this case that have been friendly to him, but, you know, we don't know what she will do at this point. you follow the hearing very closely today. what did you make of her comments today? did you get any insight on our thinking? >> so i think what we heard from her today sort of at the end of the end of the hearing >> i'm told. and based on the reporting, was that she had a comment. there's so much to do. that's not the last time we'll hear that. she'll do it again when she delays the trial. repeatedly to get beyond the election. >> i think it's the richest thing that happened today was when she said you know pointed to all the motions that were pending as a reason for why it was going to be difficult to be paired well, jack smith and his team pro
now, according to our katelyn polantz, who was in the courtroom, trump barry looked at jack smith and the proceeding not more than once or twice the entire time front now, ty cobb, the former trump white house lawyer so ty of course, the judge in this case is aileen cannon, nominated to the bench by trump. she has thus far issued decisions in this case that have been friendly to him, but, you know, we don't know what she will do at this point. you follow the hearing very closely today. what did...
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special counsel jack smith proposed a july 8 start date, but during the proceedings, cannon suggested that aspects of smith's proposal were unrealistic. trump's lawyers insist the trial should be pushed back. a trial trial that takes place before the election is a mistake and should not happen. trump attorney todd blanche stated saying it would be unfair to the former president and the american people for trump to be in the courtroom and not on the campaign trail. that's something that former president has claimed as well. >> all of this persecution is only happening because i am running for president and leading very substantially in the polls. >> trump's attorneys, dick concede if the trial has to go forward before the election, they would be okay with starting august 12th, cannon noted that trump's upcoming criminal case in new york must be considered as she schedules this one on march 25th, trump's hush money trial begins in new york and is expected to last four to six weeks. and already busy court schedule for the former president trump today, prosecutors answered a question that
special counsel jack smith proposed a july 8 start date, but during the proceedings, cannon suggested that aspects of smith's proposal were unrealistic. trump's lawyers insist the trial should be pushed back. a trial trial that takes place before the election is a mistake and should not happen. trump attorney todd blanche stated saying it would be unfair to the former president and the american people for trump to be in the courtroom and not on the campaign trail. that's something that former...
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. >> special counsel, >> da jack smith or herschel counsel? jack smith wants a july 8 start date. and then there's a supreme court set to hear oral arguments the week of april 22, on trump's claim that he has unity in jack smith's election subversion case. and the clock is ticking for trump to come up with now 454 million bucks in his new york civil fraud case. and that also adds interest on a daily basis and super tuesday, remember that? well, that is four days away let's bring in two prominent defense attorneys who know what it's like to have the weight of the government against them. former trump attorney tim parlatore is here and criminal defense attorney brandi hardened, so glad to have both of you guys here. first of all, you all know how difficult it can be obviously to go against the government, right? it's the united states it's verses, there's a lot of resources at play, et cetera the strategy has to be either attack the timing of the trial. obviously, the defense is going to be key, but what is going to be the main strategy? i mean, trump is one defendant, but really hi
. >> special counsel, >> da jack smith or herschel counsel? jack smith wants a july 8 start date. and then there's a supreme court set to hear oral arguments the week of april 22, on trump's claim that he has unity in jack smith's election subversion case. and the clock is ticking for trump to come up with now 454 million bucks in his new york civil fraud case. and that also adds interest on a daily basis and super tuesday, remember that? well, that is four days away let's bring in...
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i'm wondering how special counsel jack smith, because while the interview, i bet you are to, but don't hold your breath because here's a spoiler alert. their office spokesman has also declined to comment but you know what, here's my question. i will be the first to admit to you tonight that i am always skeptical. there's not a therapist couch here to unpack just why i'm always got to live with the question is tonight why now? why is brian butler speaking out now while he says it's all about the election do you believe that this trial should happen before the election? >> i mean, i think the american people have the right to know the facts that this is not a witch hunt you think it's a fair investigation? >> absolutely. i mean to me, you have the law and order president attacking agents, the special counsel on an almost a daily basis. when these people are just taking their sworn sworn oath >> not a witch-hunt, right to know, and a fair investigation. did they let saving time propel us onto a time warp tonight was wondering me now, tim parlatore, he's a former at donald trump attorney w
i'm wondering how special counsel jack smith, because while the interview, i bet you are to, but don't hold your breath because here's a spoiler alert. their office spokesman has also declined to comment but you know what, here's my question. i will be the first to admit to you tonight that i am always skeptical. there's not a therapist couch here to unpack just why i'm always got to live with the question is tonight why now? why is brian butler speaking out now while he says it's all about the...
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ac360 starts now tonight on 361 of jack smith is central
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right as a defendant in that frivolous case being brought by jack smith frequency brings the case in washington d.c. violates the department of justice requirements he supposed to release into the jurisdiction where the events allegedly occurred because the grand jury he wants made up of a population of people in d.c. who hate donald trump. then he transfers the case to a grand jury in florida but like a sus losing this guy is. transfers it to a grand jury and a want of the things the judges said is one of the issues has to be equal protection and equal treatment. you look at these other cases can anybody name anybody else's been a president, a vice president, or secretary of state or cabinet officer who has been charged under the espionage act when in fact they have removed classified information? that media and the phony legal analysts and scholars are all there yelling that proves she's in the tank doesn't prove she's not in the tank she's trying to get to the bottom of it? >> absolutely. you and i been lawyers for long time. we know it's not being analyzed. they're not being anal
right as a defendant in that frivolous case being brought by jack smith frequency brings the case in washington d.c. violates the department of justice requirements he supposed to release into the jurisdiction where the events allegedly occurred because the grand jury he wants made up of a population of people in d.c. who hate donald trump. then he transfers the case to a grand jury in florida but like a sus losing this guy is. transfers it to a grand jury and a want of the things the judges...
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here is what our colleague joyce vance says could be a problem for jack smith. let's watch. >> this is a judge who refused to rule on trump's motion to dismiss the case because of the presidential records act but has now given us reason to believe that she is, in fact, accepting that defense and we have to be concerned that if this case does go to trial, judge eileen cannon will take it away from the jury and dismissed charges against donald trump. if she decides to dismiss the case before the jury renders a verdict, the case is over. >> many experts believe smith should try to get cannon off the case. what are his options? >> i think recusing judge cannon requires more than just believing that she is in the tank for donald trump. to joyce's point. i think the jury instructions that were asked to deliver this week are odd and suggest that she could dismiss the case posttrial which would prevent the government from trying the case again. on the other hand, i do not think that eric is a motion at this is likely to succeed if the government were to make one at all.
here is what our colleague joyce vance says could be a problem for jack smith. let's watch. >> this is a judge who refused to rule on trump's motion to dismiss the case because of the presidential records act but has now given us reason to believe that she is, in fact, accepting that defense and we have to be concerned that if this case does go to trial, judge eileen cannon will take it away from the jury and dismissed charges against donald trump. if she decides to dismiss the case...