carter and the king hussein of jordan and the shah of iran. data toasted champagne. and i said mr. president, you , are gonna go to egypt tomorrow to see president sadat. why is that? he went, what? barbara wasn't there because she and john, chancellor of nbc and some of the other bigwigs had been invited to the party and they were off dancing. the president's secret service agent came to me and said, the president needs to see you. i came back upstairs and the president said, well, i was just told that the secretary of state just told me, yes, we are going to egypt and meeting president sadat at aswan. so sometimes it was just being in the right place at the right time. but she was always kind of a an aura apart from the the working steps at the white house. susan: that is an example of good sourcing, when you know where the president is going to be next day, and he doesn't. ann: yeah. let's move to what the the the part of the barbara years at abc news that i knew the best. central casting could not have designed two more perfect protagonists than barbara walters and diane sawyer