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do you think this all leads from computer weekly? i computer weekly. do you think this i all leads from computer weekly? yes, i would all leads from computer weekly? yes, i would have — all leads from computer weekly? yes, i would have thought _ all leads from computer weekly? yes i would have thought so. i all leads from computer weekly? 123 i would have thought so. i do not equally understand the dates. but it is october. if we can now please turn to page 23, please? this is an e—mailfrom michael rudkin. do you remember michael rudkin? . . rudkin. do you remember michael rudkin? , , , ., rudkin? yes, i remember his name. i think he was — rudkin? yes, i remember his name. i think he was federation _ rudkin? yes, i remember his name. i think he was federation connected i rudkin? yes, i remember his name. i think he was federation connected in| think he was federation connected in some way. it think he was federation connected in somewa. ., some way. it says the attachment. i resume some way. it says the attachment. i presume you _ some way. it sa
do you think this all leads from computer weekly? i computer weekly. do you think this i all leads from computer weekly? yes, i would all leads from computer weekly? yes, i would have — all leads from computer weekly? yes, i would have thought _ all leads from computer weekly? yes i would have thought so. i all leads from computer weekly? 123 i would have thought so. i do not equally understand the dates. but it is october. if we can now please turn to page 23, please? this is an e—mailfrom...
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yes, this was around — the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that _ the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time _ the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time that - the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time that it - the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time that it came | the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this i was around that time that it came to the fore for me, if you see what i mean. ., ., the fore for me, if you see what i mean, ., ., ., the fore for me, if you see what i mean. ., ., ., ., , , ., mean. you go on to say my instincts tell that in — mean. you go on to say my instincts tell that in a — mean. you go on to say my instincts tell that in a recession _ tell that in a recession sub—postmaster sweater hand in the tail of blame technology when they are found to be short of cash. why was your instinct to think that sub—postmasters who allege that horizon caused shortfalls? that sub-postmasters who allege that horizon caused shortfalls? that is an e
yes, this was around — the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that _ the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time _ the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time that - the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time that it - the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this was around that time that it came | the computer weekly. . . ? yes, this i was around that time that it came to the fore for me, if you see what i mean. ., ., the fore for me, if you see...
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i think it was a computer weekly article. that was 2009, computer weekly. it says, i have been assured previously, david smith, and it seems that is the it director, that our criminal law team are being kept updated regarding questions surrounding horizon integrity. were you aware from conversations with dave smith or from conversations with somebody else that there was a growing number of cases by this stage? growing number of cases by this state? ~ ~ ., , stage? well, i knew there was... i knew that — stage? well, i knew there was... i knew that there _ stage? well, i knew there was... i knew that there was _ stage? well, i knew there was... i knew that there was more - stage? well, i knew there was... i i knew that there was more challenges to horizon but i don't think i spoke to horizon but i don't think i spoke to dave smith regarding this. as i say, the article in computer weekly had come out, i think, the year before, and later, when i helped the civil litigation, i started before, and later, when i helped the civil litigation, istarted putting a s
i think it was a computer weekly article. that was 2009, computer weekly. it says, i have been assured previously, david smith, and it seems that is the it director, that our criminal law team are being kept updated regarding questions surrounding horizon integrity. were you aware from conversations with dave smith or from conversations with somebody else that there was a growing number of cases by this stage? growing number of cases by this state? ~ ~ ., , stage? well, i knew there was... i...
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the computer weekly article had been written — yes. the computer weekly article had been written in _ yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may _ yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may 2009 _ yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may 2009 and - yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may 2009 and you i been written in may 2009 and you were interviewed as part of the work. . . . were interviewed as part of the work. , ., , . were interviewed as part of the work-_ the i were interviewed as part of the work. , ., , . the work work. yes, that is correct. the work drew together— work. yes, that is correct. the work drew together facts _ work. yes, that is correct. the work drew together facts about _ work. yes, that is correct. the work drew together facts about a - work. yes, that is correct. the work drew together facts about a number of cases. siam can we look at the letter, as we can see from the way you have addressed the letter, at the top the minister for postal affairs w
the computer weekly article had been written — yes. the computer weekly article had been written in _ yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may _ yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may 2009 _ yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may 2009 and - yes. the computer weekly article had been written in may 2009 and you i been written in may 2009 and you were interviewed as part of the work. . . . were interviewed as part of the work. , ., , . were...
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a lot of reference they are to computer weekly. this is a publication which started investigating the horizon system and was exposing faults in the horizon system. alan cook was talking about the fact that that came to his notice. nonetheless it appears the organisation persisted with the idea that there were no faults with horizon system, as a result several hundred postmasters and post—mistresses were prosecuted. a lot of discussion as to the role of the post office, notably alan cook at the very beginning said that he was not aware that there post office was taking initiative. he thought that this was external, it was crown prosecution service. in fact, two thirds of the cases were initiated by the post office and pursued by the post office. that must have been some legal team within the post office, in order to achieve that. he emphasised that the legal team was not purely devoted towards doing that, and he made that point several times in his defence. he did however apologise. he was presented with two former workers who had
a lot of reference they are to computer weekly. this is a publication which started investigating the horizon system and was exposing faults in the horizon system. alan cook was talking about the fact that that came to his notice. nonetheless it appears the organisation persisted with the idea that there were no faults with horizon system, as a result several hundred postmasters and post—mistresses were prosecuted. a lot of discussion as to the role of the post office, notably alan cook at...
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in other words, until the computer weekly— in other words, until the computer weekly article, despite having been manager— weekly article, despite having been manager director of the post office since _ manager director of the post office since 2006 and a nonexecutive director— since 2006 and a nonexecutive director for years before then? i director for years before then? would find director for years before then? i would find that surprising. he has told the inquiry that although he had conversations with the head _ although he had conversations with the head of security about fraud, about _ the head of security about fraud, about liaison with the police, he remained — about liaison with the police, he remained in the dark about the prosecutorial function. at the time, did he _ prosecutorial function. at the time, did he strike you as a man who was so out _ did he strike you as a man who was so out of— did he strike you as a man who was so out of touch with the business that he _ so out of touch with the business that he was running that he wouldn't know— that he was runnin
in other words, until the computer weekly— in other words, until the computer weekly article, despite having been manager— weekly article, despite having been manager director of the post office since _ manager director of the post office since 2006 and a nonexecutive director— since 2006 and a nonexecutive director for years before then? i director for years before then? would find director for years before then? i would find that surprising. he has told the inquiry that although he had...
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weekly, _ by rebecca thompson of computer weekly, is — by rebecca thompson of computer weekly, is that right? yes. i think ou had weekly, is that right? yes. i think you had told _ weekly, is that right? yes. i think you had told us _ weekly, is that right? yes. i think you had told us he _ weekly, is that right? 193 ithink you had told us he already held that publication in high regard because of some _ publication in high regard because of some previous involvement in some work it— of some previous involvement in some work it had _ of some previous involvement in some work it had done. the of some previous involvement in some work it had done.— work it had done. the oh yes, the crash on the _ work it had done. the oh yes, the crash on the mull _ work it had done. the oh yes, the crash on the mull of _ work it had done. the oh yes, the crash on the mull of cantata. - work it had done. the oh yes, the| crash on the mull of cantata. then later in 2000 _ crash on the mull of cantata. then later in 2000 nine _ crash on the mull of cantata. then later in 2000 nine he _ crash on the mul
weekly, _ by rebecca thompson of computer weekly, is — by rebecca thompson of computer weekly, is that right? yes. i think ou had weekly, is that right? yes. i think you had told _ weekly, is that right? yes. i think you had told us _ weekly, is that right? yes. i think you had told us he _ weekly, is that right? 193 ithink you had told us he already held that publication in high regard because of some _ publication in high regard because of some previous involvement in some work it— of...
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and that you told them that computer weekly had also been sceptical about horizon. and in paragraph five is something ijust want horizon. and in paragraph five is something i just want to concentrate on, it says not make it records, and this is the post office was 's own note, alice perkins explained that the system had been independently reviewed by several people including the royal mail internal audit and deloittes who had no relationship with the business of fidget to. and you're recorded as saying you're not convinced this had been done by an it expert. for the minute i suspect you have no recollection of the meeting itself.— you have no recollection of the meetin: itself. :, �* . :, meeting itself. you're correct. you mi . ht ut meeting itself. you're correct. you might put for— meeting itself. you're correct. you might put for the _ meeting itself. you're correct. you might put for the minute _ meeting itself. you're correct. you might put for the minute do - meeting itself. you're correct. you might put for the minute do you i might put for the minute
and that you told them that computer weekly had also been sceptical about horizon. and in paragraph five is something ijust want horizon. and in paragraph five is something i just want to concentrate on, it says not make it records, and this is the post office was 's own note, alice perkins explained that the system had been independently reviewed by several people including the royal mail internal audit and deloittes who had no relationship with the business of fidget to. and you're recorded...
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because of course it was in may 2009 that that computer weekly article came out that first reported on the scandal. the issues with horizon system. months later alan cook was asked about the rising nervousness about horizon system by his post office pr officer. he clearly was sceptical about it all. he could see he didn't know about these issues, but at that point they were being flagged up to him. and his response was that his instinct was that during a recession somebody with their hand in the tail tend to blame the software. i have spoken to people here, they are upset about it, lawyers are indignant, not to mention someone who was 18 years old when he took over a post office, the exact same year that alan cook became managing director of the post office. he ended up having problems with the system very early on. his shortfalls rose to the tens of thousands and he was wrongfully convicted because of it. he called that response which alan cook said he regrets, as a complete disgrace, and doesn't understand how he could have jumped to that conclusion if he says he never asked those qu
because of course it was in may 2009 that that computer weekly article came out that first reported on the scandal. the issues with horizon system. months later alan cook was asked about the rising nervousness about horizon system by his post office pr officer. he clearly was sceptical about it all. he could see he didn't know about these issues, but at that point they were being flagged up to him. and his response was that his instinct was that during a recession somebody with their hand in...
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in 2009 the computer weekly article came out, that first reported on the scandal. a pr officerfor the post office in 2009 wrote to alan cook expressing concern around the nervousness as they put it around the horizon system. that prompted this e—mail exchange that was read out, where alan cook said from his experience, subbies with their hands on the till tend to blame the technology when they are short of cash. forsomebody technology when they are short of cash. for somebody who claims to be very concerned about his relationship with the sub—postmasters, they were very upset by this. he said that this is an expression that he profoundly regrets. he said he will regret for the rest of his life. it was an important thing to put in an e—mail, not in line with my view of sub—postmasters. speaking to one of the postmasters, he was only 18 or 20 took over the branch, he said a the system was being rolled out and he was using it more, he started experiencing problems from the very beginning. he said that listening to that was a complete disgrace and that was a co
in 2009 the computer weekly article came out, that first reported on the scandal. a pr officerfor the post office in 2009 wrote to alan cook expressing concern around the nervousness as they put it around the horizon system. that prompted this e—mail exchange that was read out, where alan cook said from his experience, subbies with their hands on the till tend to blame the technology when they are short of cash. forsomebody technology when they are short of cash. for somebody who claims to be...
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weekly publicising problems in compliance with the system, — problems in compliance with the system, mps talking about it, sending — system, mps talking about it, sending in letters to the managing director— sending in letters to the managing director and ceos of the country. many— director and ceos of the country. many ramblings related to the integral— many ramblings related to the integral part of the system is called — integral part of the system is called horizon. this is a lot. do not called horizon. this is a lot. not agree? called horizon. this is a lot. drr not agree? at around that time when i stepped into the role, yes. this has not i stepped into the role, yes. this has got to _ i stepped into the role, yes. this has got to be _ i stepped into the role, yes. this has got to be very _ i stepped into the role, yes. this has got to be very worrying amongst people _ has got to be very worrying amongst people working at the post office. this horizon that we will depend upon, _ this horizon that we will depend upon, everybody seems to be saying there's— upon, everyb
weekly publicising problems in compliance with the system, — problems in compliance with the system, mps talking about it, sending — system, mps talking about it, sending in letters to the managing director— sending in letters to the managing director and ceos of the country. many— director and ceos of the country. many ramblings related to the integral— many ramblings related to the integral part of the system is called — integral part of the system is called horizon. this is a...